e e e we all right so we're going to thank you order and we're going to start with uh DBA case number 2405 16 gry which ised from last week um this is just to read the notice the Zoning for appeal ho contains in the conference room in town hall 16 M Street ready massach on Tuesday June 4th at 700 p.m. application submitted by arade to Mass General law 48 section 10 variance under median bylaws section 4.1.3 4.5.2 6.0 6.3 instead of4 as be determined by the Z board to build back in Pera the step back of 2.3 ft on exting structure as the side step back of 3.6 ft the property located at 16 Grand Street s 21 101 Massachusetts um Al an objection I'll just the reading the but's list notified as the following select for town clerk Poli Department fire department building department Conservation Commission Health Department ass's office and J CP cpdc and members and Associate members of board of appeals as for the planning as well as the planning boards of w Field lenfield North Reading Stonington um testimony before this board is taken under oath so if you think you might want to speak please stand and raise your right hand um and I guess next case if you want to stand and raise your right hand too just um so I swear the testimony given by me before this board will be the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth the response is just I do all right great thanks um yeah just want to talk about your copies sure so my name is Cula vakis I work for archade which is the design build firm um that will be build doing the build at 16 Grand now um last time we met we gauged you know your feelings and they were great so we adjusted um what we've proposed was to move the entire deck and perola everything 4 in away from the lot line um my email and Amanda email haven't been driving I sent it to her last week um thankfully she followed up today um um and I'd sent it to all of us they received the email but for some reason my I don't know if it's a security measure on her email it didn't go through I would have liked I didn't realize that we needed the updated plot plan I would have um she told me that today and I'm trying to scramble and call the survey I'm like he it's in 5 hours K so that didn't work out well but um hoping um that maybe there's some sort of approval with conditions that as long as the updated plot plan shows nothing is um you know worse than the existing deck at 3.6 ft that maybe that it will be approved um so that we're not it'll be a special permit I guess at that at that point um looking to get your feedback on that and what and what you think we glad to give it to you wonderful start sign the table uh no do you mind if I actually take a look at that PL plan just very this is the this is the old one we don't have the updated one so we don't have the updated one that's the only thing is that I can provide it um and it will show everything is 3.6 or more okay um so that's that's the only thing I I don't have I I apologize we would have had I had so it's the exact same as so there is no modification or no extension of the non-conforming of the non-conforming use at all exactly so what I did here and you'll see in this updated plan is I cut off those rafter taals and you'll see on that plot plan that's what was that was what was the proposed Pargo within the setback so we cut those off moved everything in its entirety um because before we were 2 ft within you know past the existing non-conformity um 2 ft is is 2 and2 in so I moved everything over 4 in just to give us a little bit of leeway there um to conform as well I I to to my to my personal opinion I believe that you all have done fantastic work and thank you very much for obviously listening to the feedback that we that we had last time um and I believe that the in this circumstance the special permit is a much more appropriate uh circumstance for these particular for this particular project than the variance would have been so I believe that they've complied with what I would would have been would have been requesting so I would pass it along to my colleagues here on the board well I first thing I saw was no plot plan and we need a plot plan yeah okay because you know whatever decision comes out of this case if we approve it the plot plan is probably one of the key documents that goes into the town record I agree okay and has to be accurate so we need that understand and uh so this you're saying you're going to be within the 3.6 ft now or less than that or what is what is the actual Dimension going to be excuse me because the current says that the existing deck is 3.6 ftol was 2.3 and the proposed deck was 3.4 what are those numbers today 3.7 all of them it will be 3.7 did you not not only bring it more away from the from the lot line did you make it little deeper into the property I did not all I did let me show you this here so all I did here was I moved everything over this everything's moved over 4 in you see how this sits past the house here the reason the pergola was 2.3 ft is because it had these rafter Tails now these RAF Tails I've removed and know everything is in line with the current deck which is all at 3.7 ft off of the proposed um L one yeah exactly where the existing is 3.6 so it will conform and not make the non-conformity worse okay I mean you really require appearance when you're creating a compy if you're not creating a new non this is a non-conforming structure on a non-conforming lot so if you're not creating a new nonconformity yeah then we you still have to get a per okay building Spector can't do that I feel like it's a ton twister right so uh you know my key question was compliance with what are the new numbers yes it's 3.7 so if it's 3.7 and the new plot plan is going to show that uh then that's that I think changes is been very interestes thank do you have did you an input get an input from B Brett the Bing inspector do we have his comment on the whatever came up is that 210 me that's 210 210 no I did not um I I haven't seen it would you read it give so that was for the next that was for the next item um oh for the next one yeah oh he did no comment on this one on the CH no I didn't end up getting the um we had the email thing I sent it I responded to her last week and everyone else got the email but her email it wasn't driving with my email so she would have responded if she had received mine and said hey you need the plot plan and instead she called me today and left a message and then I called back I said hey I sent it to you here's you know on uh the 7th or the 20 or the 28th um she said I didn't get that I said okay I'm forwarding again okay she said if I don't get it just upload it so then I uploaded it um so something's happening with the email and then we spoke she sent we need a plot plan I said gosh I wish I knew this last week when I emailed you because I would have had you know a week to get it rather than 5 hours um yeah um the only discomfort I have is that without the plot line we're going to make make a motion to approve this thing we can't make reference to a plan dated prepared by cuz we don't have it so we can make it perhaps conditional upon receipt uh that' be very helpful I spoke with Andrew about that huh I spoke with Andrew a little bit about that if you guys are comfortable putting a condition in um then you guys are welcome to do that and they can't have a building permit issued until it could be conditioned I suppose on a revised plot plan to be submitted which which refle which reflects the the modifications as directed on the record the specific Dimension 3. or more the how want based on what I've heard I I I think it is a permit I think it's something that I no problem going long but uh yeah I don't really have much to add I think the only thing I guess I would have um yeah usually just condition a 3.6 ft I think that's not what we want I'll be curious to see might end being a little bit funny how theal Corner goes off but I think this point most like will be compliance as far as I can tell so the worst case set back is 3.7 that's what you're saying I they will be 3.7 that's my calculation as opposed to 36 as opposed to 3 various category was per yeah I don't problem and I'd be happy that for that to be the condition because I know it's an awkward scenario but we would be very grateful y definitely so the original request was for 2.3 on the thing that was the pergola yeah oh that was perola and so now it's it's a so I've cut off let me show you cuz I didn't I didn't point that out to you so before usual pergolas have these Rafters I how you cut them off so we've cut those off so now everything is in line with the deck on that edge okay so everything will be the same Dimension the existing deck and the um the proposed deck and the proposed perola okay I'm comfortable as we put it in conditions great uh I open it for public comment um do have a motion then we let our lawyer do that Patrick's lawyer tight up uh give me one second let me pull that up so a do we have a copy of the uh of the motion itself or I copy that would be fantastic if you have thank you sorry folks this is goinging much better than our last meeting the sections in the Bible that we reference relative to seeking a gr so we can change that because a special permit in my opinion would be under paragraph section 7.32 so we'll need a new letter too we should condition it on a new building inspector letter to go with the plot plan yeah of a new denial letter exactly okay you don't have a new denial letter right a new what denial letter that says the special Department yeah so submission submission of the yeah 732 so it' be submission of submission of a new plot plan and receipt of a new denial letter uh would be the uh the conditions that we would need to uh fulfill before Brett would be able to issue a permanent that circumstance then we have a record of it switching to a special permit from variance and we're covered you're covered do we need any of the standard Construction I to apply to this case there is no Foundation how about the others um I mean the occupancy the only occupany is you're going to use deck I just I just raised that question to whether anything should apply or condition I don't yeah I mean for for the use of a deck or things I don't see it as much BR and I have a desktop not a laptop thank you so much Amanda I appreciate it okay so I move hold on one second thank you all right I mov to Grant the petitioner architect arched I'm sorry a special permit on under Section 732 of the reading zoning bylaws uh on the non-conforming lot in Reading Massachusetts uh at 16 Grand Street uh based upon the conditioned receipt of a uh updated plot plan indicating no lesser than 3.7 uh feet from the uh side from the side lck line um and upon receipt of an updated denial letter from the town of reading uh for the special yes for the special per itself and this uh special permit is subject to the following petitions sh the petitioner shall submit to the building inspector certifi plot plan of the proposed construction and I do not believe a proposed Foundation plan is necessary at this point uh prior to the issuance of the permit itself the petitioner final construction plans for the new structure shall be submitted to the building inspector as along with the as built plans uh prior to the issuance of a building permit and as built plans showing the completed construction shall be submitted to the building inspector immediately after the work is completed and uh prior to use of the deck rather than the occupancy permit itself so uh is there a second all in favor great thank you thank you um so we'll need as buil survey after need an as buil afterwards yes we'll also need just uh the submission of the plot plan indicating it as you had indicated yeah y sure certainly before pered yes thank you so thank you guys thank you all app best of luck I'll follow tomorrow email I have oh oh yeah have a great day thank youen up to you I don't know to do that or not I have a digital copy I don't know uh but it's going to be help your presentation I don't know how hard it is to connect I believe so I brought in the Aral plans and also [Music] the so we're going to start zba case number 24-7 uh 210 Main Street uh zoning board of appeals will hold a public Hearing in a conference room meeting Town Hall 16 Wall Street readying Massachusetts on Tuesday June 4th 2024 700 p.m. on the application of the attorney Desmond on behalf of the property own to math general laws chter 4A section 9 for special permit under reading Zing bylaw section 5.3.2 footnote 1 7.0 7.3 and 7.3.2 construct a second story Edition on existing nonconforming structure the non-conforming side guard set and convert a single family to a two family dilling on the property located at 210 Main Street this is m s lot 250 ready Massachusetts th objection lens the reading of the ABS list that be notified as were the following select board town clerk Police Department fire department building department Conservation Commission Health Department assist office engineering Division cpdc and the members and Associate members of the board of the field as well as the planning boards of Wakefield mfield North riding Stone yes whenever you're ready have yeah connected you may go back to paper I thinked earlier did you have to S the um conference room I I did but it's not connected to it now for some reason well it makes me feel better I worked at Amazon and the bestof was all set to go um good evening chair chairman ratburger board members my name is Kathleen Desmond I'm an attorney and I'm practice and reading at 580 Main Street I'm here this evening with um compession Patel the manager of Ricky and J LLC and also Richard Bo of taon development uh the application before the board requests essentially two special permits the first seeks relief from 7.0 7.3 7.32 of the ordinance for purposes of altering and extending and nonconform structure the second special permit sought relates to section 5.3.2 footnote 1 that allows for a conversion of a single family dwelling to a two family dwelling under certain circumstances and specifically where the single family was built before April of 1942 in this case the records reflect that the single G dwelling was built in approximately 1925 the existing single family dwelling has eight finished rooms it also meets that requirement the GFA is not increased by more than less of 1,000 square ft or a third of the existing GFA as of January 1st 2020 and lastly with the ex exterior appearance maintains that of a single family dwelling um by way of background the subject property 210 Main Street is a 23115 ft parcel of land situated in the S15 zoning District on which a four-bedroom single family dwelling s uh the structure was built in approximately 1925 and has approximately eight finished rooms which meets the represent number of rooms necessary to special permit under 5.3.2 the existing lot and structure are not conforming as to lot width Frontage and due to the positioning of the structure on the lot uh sidey setback um the project is proposed seeks to create um two bedroom two two-bedroom units currently the single family has four units so there's not an increase in the bedroom count uh by creating the two units um what's intended they intend to construct I'm so used to having this scam um a second bedroom over the sunro uh on the subtly side of the property um the additional the addition to the unit is 154 Square ft so it's really a dominous addition the current structure is um two stories in height um so that is the only portion of the structure with the increase in height is taking place uh and the uh special permit is required because the height is being increased with within um the sidey setback um as proposed the height of the existing roof will be modified in that area on through that um the pro project as proposed will not further encroach into the side yard setbacks um and and the height which will be um 28 ft at the front and 30.6 ft at the rear of the property are well within the height requirements of the ordinance um the applicant contends the increase in height of the structure will not be more detrimental to the neighborhood as the existing dwelling is set back um on on Main Street and and even though this it it doesn't comply with the setback requirements practically speaking in terms of where the structure is located in in relation to other dwellings uh there aren't any other dwellings um on either side from on 208 206 I think and then and then the lot which comes off uh to the side um in addition to that um the property is also close to uh the business a district uh which which allows two family dwellings as a right um in terms of the two family dwelling in 5.3 specifically uh the increase in GFA is minimal it's approximately 8.5% of the existing structure and well within a th000 uh square foot requirement of the ordinance U and rather than being a detriment to the neighborhood the renovations will arguably serve as a benefit uh revitalizing the dilapidated structure as it stands now uh creating additional housing without increasing the bedroom count uh that exists presently uh there's still only four bedrooms but they'll be divided between two units um and also uh bringing the the enhancing the safety uh and compliance with the building code and also the fire uh Safety Code um so that's why we're looking for the the special permit we believe that it's not detrimental to en for those reasons I'll take questions from the board and I'm sorry that I this letter from Brett um this seems just like a summary of what he was talking about in the denial letter in the email do you what the context this one is do you know he just said that to the end of the day he was he was supposed to be here and wasn't so he this a little bit more actually from about yeah I think it's not really Den I think just just his comments guess yeah the second Inspire any question did we want this right into the record or did we want uh since he not here you probably I I can do it to uh regarding 210 Main Street Reading Massachusetts honorable board with regard to the above mentioned prop property I offer the following the applicant proposes to construct a 15 by 15.4 ft by 10t Second Story Edition on an existing non-conforming structure with a sidey yard setback of 11.9 ft and rebuild the exist and rebuild the existing the existing second floor which already contains a habitable living space in the same footprint due to to structural issues this will require a special permit from section 732 7.32 of the town of reading zoning bylaws as they are extending the non-conformity upwards in addition the applicant is proposing to convert the single family structure into a two family structure Under Foot node one of section 5.3.2 this would be by a byre conversion as we have verified the existing eight habitable rooms but due to that fact that the is adding 154 Square ft of new floor area to a special permit will be required no new non-conformities are being created in either proposal thank you Brett Bennett Building Commissioner town of reading we can add that to the record as well thank you have any questions uh only one you know this is only the second request for perir for that note in the last 19 years I've done on this board I think the first one was started with the town the first one was when I originally started with the town yeah yeah and uh so you hit you hit all the marks you know if it's a buil for people in 1942 has inhabitable rooms as long as meet the criteria for increase in Force Base and and you know it still looks like a cical family from what I saw on the record there's two there'll be two entries to that second P the front door where you go in and go through hallway into the door stairs the second one the last one that's last the other one I think is the deck from the from the deck in the back right those are the two yes okay yeah I uh I don't have a problem with this thing I think it's for straight forward do you have any questions or comments please um just one is the property as it is right now or is it being used at all for as Residence at all or no yeah I was I was curious so it's it's uninhabited at the moment and so it is reconstruct the inside of that house that whole first floor is going to look different right what was that you're reconstru in the first floor yes internally yes abens right it's a whole full gut full gut full gut yeah that's what I Y okay okay exterior all gut it down the studs and then the second floor is getting torn down yeah no I have no problem giving the location giv the setbacks and given just the yeah where the property is located I'm perfectly fine What will what will the height of that new structure be 28 ft in the front and 30.6 Below 35 there a little bit of walk out in the back so it's about a 22 ft difference in grade and this property is behind that shopping center right there with yeah you got to drive yeah that's where the front is is that 12 yeah that that 12 just you have the I get confused because I looked at the tax map and the the addresses were 250 not 210 tax map tax map is in your I'm um yes I guess the only two questions I have are I think one of the requirements is that it's got it had eight had rooms in 1942 I think typically we've gotten like a letter specifically saying that from Glen U it's a little unclear from Brad's letter that was verified I know that Glenn looked at this and and um Rob I'm sorry Rich you can speak to it um he looked at it and was actually ready to issue um a permit based on the fact that there were eight rooms and the only difference again is the 154 and actually if the Supreme Judicial Court hadn't you know agreed to this stipulated facts on on the vot case this probably would even be before the board because it would be demous but they didn't on specific facts and never decided that issue uh okay that sounds good yeah the only reason I asked is that addition does seem like something that could have been added between now and 1942 so there's some chance it wouldn't have had ABS then um but I guess based on this letter this is still a little unclear to me I guess but it does say that they verify this have any so um that's not a huge deal to me I think uh I guess the other question I had too so we're talking about how there's an increase in non-conformity over the sun room um but it also looks like on the other side of the property you're raising the ceiling height and also right now it's like a shed Dormer and you're raising the height of the walls on the corners so is that also an increase in nonconformity on that side too it it it may be I don't believe that we were cited for that um but in fact they are changing the roof from a gambell to a a colonial um so it even so it's not creating a new non-conformity um in in any way um and it's well within the height requirements of a single family or two family um since 30 30.6 to the rear you know I think also if you look at the loot coverage on this particular house it's minimal I think it's like less than 20% of the existing lot okay yeah I know it's not for but would be an extension of the nonconform correct yeah okay and that's I think that's covered under the the 3. 7.3.2 yeah I just think that side of the house was going call out any other comments someone Veri yeah yeah I think spef we've had this phras a little differ prly um any other comments from the board any public comment all right um have a motion after this one I'll take a shot at it I excuse me I would move to Grant the petitioner attorney C Desmond a special permit pursuant to ma General law 4th a section 9 and under zoning bylaw Section 5 three footnote one to convert a single family to a two family and a separate special permit under Z BW 7.3.2 construct the second storing addition on existing nonconforming structure with a non-conforming side all on the property located at 210 Main Street and ready in accordance with plot plan of plan dated January 10th 2024 with revisions March 21 2024 and March 28 2024 prepared and certified by solivan Engineering in wber Massachusetts and the architectural drawings included with the application and in this case I believe the standard conditions do they so I'll read that the commissioner shall submit to the building inspector a certified plan for the proposed construction and proposed Foundation plans prior to the insurance of a foundation permit for the work petitioners final construction plans for the new structure shall be submitted to the building inspector along with the ASB built Foundation plants prior to the issuance of the building permit and the asil plan showing the completed construction shall be submitted to the building inspector immediately after the work is completed and prior to the issuance of an occup I thank you very thank you best of Lu gentlemen good oneis okay this space no she's getting better never been my I I did have one he weeny one on page two just the paragraph just above zba case 24-6 say made a motion to accept the applicant's request to continue their hearing for case 24-5 Grand Street to I said insert to the June 4 2024 meeting continue with till the June 24 just dat the date of the meeting that it was contingent to that's all I'm and the um just tack it on right after 16 Grand to the continue continue it to the June 44 piy um so our next meeting is July 2nd um hopefully we should have a full for July I will not be here on July 2 you will not be how are we doing with new for that please on the public what I just found out today they're interviewing they um Monday they started yeah they started started yesterday potentially have four new members intervie we'll see some it looks like some had a couple boards listed so hopefully we'll get a okay it Still Remains up in the air whether or not I will be uh oh you may not rec continue no I may not be uh reappointed so really multiple boards or something what's that cuz you're on all lot boards um we can go with that um cool actually can we approve the minutes before we yeah okay sure uh so I'll move I'll move second hi great uh sorry any other business bus I make a motion toour me great thank you thanks nice and short not too bad do we have any cases for the next meeting I think we'll have at least one I did get like a denial um letter issued um I sent up all the information so we'll see if they get anything in by next week cuz I I moved the date because everyone was waiting till last minute to their applications so then I have 3 days to go through the application have Andrew go through the application yeah legal notices make sure they dropped off the envelopes I won't I won't legal notice the envelopes I do that what's the date in the next meeting is July 2nd and it will be in the select board oh so we just Bounce Around unfortunately we have a vacation schedule for that week is right it's summer yeah okay all right thank you all very very much thanks thank you everyone I now gets go next door e e