Okay. >> Good evening everybody. This meeting is being held in accordance with the public laws of 1975 chapter 231 and adequate notice of this meeting has been provided by a notice sent to the Aspbury Park Press, the Too River Times
and the Star Ledger and posted in the main lobby of the municipal building and on the municipal website. OPMA authorizes municipalities to conduct public meetings through use of streaming services and other online meeting platforms. The Redbank Council is meeting in person as well as
providing an option for the public to participate via Zoom video meetings. Please note that the option to attend is being provided as a courtesy. Therefore, if Zoom becomes unavailable during the meeting and it cannot quickly be fixed, council will continue with the remainder of the meeting. For those joining us via Zoom, please raise your hands during
designated time to be recognized for a comment. Whether you are appearing in person or via Zoom, you must provide your names to be recognized. Please rise for the pledge of >> allegiance. America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Call please. >> Council member Bakus here. >> Council member Cassidy >> present. Council member Facy Blackwood >> here. Council member Forest. Council member Janome here. >> Deputy Mayor Triiano
>> here. >> And Mayor Portman >> here. >> We're going to kick things off with a proclamation that was left off of the agenda. Um we have a lot of proclamations coming on and off this week. So, uh we're going to kick things off um honoring our Eagle Scout, our
newest Eagle Scout, Philip DSi. Whereas Philip Benenzo Dasti of Redbank Troop 67 of the Boy Scouts of America has achieved the rank of Eagle Scout. And whereas Eagle Scouts act as leaders and role models in the community, it takes years of dedication and commitment
to achieve the rank of Eagle Scout. And whereas the Eagle Scout award is a distinction that will follow him throughout his life and will be a beacon to others of the leadership quality and commitment this young man has shown. And whereas Philip's Eagle Scout project involved the complete redesign of a corner of East Side Park, including the
replacement of the park sign, originally an old weathered sign and a stone monument. And whereas with the help of his family, scouts, and friends, it is now a welcoming corner. It features a retaining stone wall filled with a variety of shrubs and plants. The park sign has been redesigned, and they
cleaned and repositioned the stone monument. And whereas thanks to Philip's vision and dedication, this once overlooked corner of East Side Park has been transformed into a beautiful and lasting contribution to the community. Now therefore, it be it resolved that I, William Portman, mayor of the Burough of
Redbank, on behalf of the Redbank Burough Council to hereby congratulate and recognize Philip Dosski for his achievement of the rank of Eagle Scout. We are proud to have him as a member of our community. Go ahead. My name was Dest.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> My skills. Hey, thank you actually to all you guys because I'm just really glad that we bring this finalization to life just to give that extra piece back to the community and there thank you to all.
Thank you. an angel. >> Okay. Um, we did have a proclamation honoring Retesh Sha, but uh, he had a family emergency, so we have to push that off the next time. Um, next up,
World Humanitarian Day. Whereas World Humanitarian Day takes And hold on one second. By the way, you guys can stay. Go. I mean I mean you're welcome to hang for all the resolutions but we can alo give you
a minute to exit grace gracefully. >> Yeah you're w like I said you're welcome to stay. Thank you guys. >> You have options. [Music] Let's
move down. Humanitarian day. Whereas World Humanitarian Day takes place annually on the 19th of August is a global observance that honors and celebrates the selfless efforts of humanitarian workers who save lives and provide aid in times of crisis and promote awareness
of humanitarian efforts globally. And whereas as conflicts become more intense, complex and protracted globally, attacks on humanitarian, civilians, civilian infrastructure, and healthcare that is health facilities, health workers, infrastructure, transportation, and
related services have become increasingly common, often in clear violation of international laws. And whereas since the beginning of 2024, WHO has verified over 700 attacks on health care across 13 countries and territories.
And whereas attacks on healthcare are a violation of international humanitarian law. And whereas health workers, patients, health facilities, and supplies must never be attacked and must be actively protected by all parties to to a conflict. And whereas our message
for this year's World Humanitarian Day is to stop the normalization of attacks on humanitarians, prevent civil civilian suffering, and end impunity under international humanitarian law and other international agreements. Therefore, I, William Portman, mayor of the Burough Breadbank, on behalf of the council, the
powers vested in me, do hereby proclaim our support for designation August 19th, 2025 as World's Humanitarian Day. Next up, it's National Black Business Month, August 2025. Whereas the month of August is observed
as National Black Business Month, an annual observance that began nearly 20 years ago to highlight the remarkable achievements, contributions, milestones, and historical progress of black businesses and entrepreneurs across the United States. And whereas throughout history, despite facing systemic racism,
redlinining, and even extreme violence, as evidenced through the Tulsa massacre of 1921, black businesses continue to grow and thrive throughout the nation. And whereas, as of the latest census, there were 3.5 million blackowned businesses that employ more than 1.2 million
people. This represents an annual increase of over 7% in people employed by black entrepreneurs in the United States, generating 206 billion in annual revenue and supporting 3.56 million US jobs. And whereas the financial impact
of black or African-Americanowned businesses in the United States is multifaceted and dynamic and translates into real world economic impact creating jobs for workers of all backgrounds. And whereas the Burough of Redbank supports and celebrates our local blackowned
businesses and entrepreneurs that create jobs and boost our local economy and encourage our community members to explore, discover, and shop at blackowned businesses. Now, therefore, I, William Portman, mayor of the Burough Redbank, on behalf of the council by the powers vested in me to hereby proclaim
our support for a designation of August 2025 as National Black Business Month. And finally, we have a proclamation honoring Augusta Gus Carter. Whereas Augusta Carter, Gus as he is
commonly known, >> was born September 3rd, 1941 in Havlock, North Carolina. He graduated from the Queen Street High School in Bowford, North Carolina in 1959. And whereas while in high school, Gus worked part-time in the local barber shop,
Shining Shoes. After a while, he started helping the barber with haircuts. He still remembers his first customer, his father, and his cousin. Then the word got out the whole neighborhood. That was back in 1955. One haircut, 50 cents. And whereas after high school graduation,
Gus left home and moved to Redbank, New Jersey. A short time after being in Redbank, he decided to get his license to become an official barber in New Jersey. He attended the Vaughn Barber School in New York City. After graduation, Gus opened his own shop, Gus's Barberh Shop on Tuesday, May 9th,
1978, located at 243 Shrewsbury Avenue in Redbank. And whereas as a young at a young age while attending Piney Grove AM Zion Church in Hablock, Gus accepted the Lord into his life. He is currently a member of the Shrewsbury Avenue Zion Church
where he has been a faithful member for over 50 years serving on the steward finance and men of Zion Ministries. And whereas Gus's barber shop is mobile, he freely gives of his time and skill to provide haircuts and shaves to people who are sick or shut in in their homes,
in hospitals or in nursing homes. And whereas Gus is husband to Donna Carter, father to Augustus Carter and Kyla Carter Owens, father-in-law to Kevin Owens, grandfather to Ania Booker, Madison Booker, Gina Carter, and Okami Owens. Now therefore, be resolved that
the mayor and council of the Burough Breadbank hereby recognize and commend Augusta Carter for his extraordinary dedication to public service. And be it resolved that a copy of this proclamation be presented to Mr. Gus Carter as a token of the burrow's esteem
and venitude. >> At the shop tomorrow, >> that's one of the nicest proclamations. That was just a really great story. >> Yes. >> Story because >> Yes. 88 90 what was it? 40 47 years he's been in business here. >> Like the story, not the math, Mr. Mayor.
>> Thank you. Um, we also have a new library board trustee appointment. Um, her name is uh Nubia Vinning is I I think Nubia is here. Welcome. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Um uh can I have a motion to open the floor
for public comment on agenda items only? >> Make such a motion. >> I have a second. >> Second. All >> in favor? I. >> Anyone has any comments on agenda items only? >> I think Nubia wants to say a few words. >> Okay, sure. Let's let's start with Nubia. I just wanted to
>> maybe come on up to the little the little booth there where the microphone is. And >> hello everyone. I just wanted to introduce myself button. >> Push the button. >> I'm very new to >> Yeah, you're good. Now you're official. >> Now you're pro. >> Hello everyone. I just wanted to
introduce myself. Um my name is Nubia Vidding. I've been living in Redbank for almost eight years. I have two young boys, five and eight. Um let's see. We enjoy the library. We go to the library a lot. We're there almost once a week,
maybe twice. So, when I found an opportunity to be able to give back and serve the community, I jumped on it because really love the community, the library, the people. Um, what else? I'm I'm a little nervous. I'm sorry. >> You're bilingual.
>> I'm bilingual. I um in the Dominican Republic and I came here at a very young age. Um, my educational background, I have a bachelor's of science in forensic science with a concentration in molecular biology and I also have a master's of arts in biological sciences.
I worked at the New York City um, office of the chief medical examiner for 11 years. Um, and I resigned that job around the time where my second child was born because it just felt like too much for me to go back to work and be a, you know, and take care of my kids. So,
so now I am a house manager and a volunteer. I volunteer whenever I have the opportunity to. So, it's a little bit about me. >> He's a great neighbor, too. >> I'm a great neighbor. >> The cutest car in Redbank. >> It has numbers on the side.
>> The 53 car. That's That's me. >> That's pretty much it. >> Thank you, Nia. >> Thanks, Nia. >> Thank you. Y >> button again on the There we go. There we go. Perfect. Thank you.
>> Anyone else have any comments or questions for agenda items? >> Yes. >> You got you got to come on up and state your name and address and the microphone. >> Just hit that button there and you'll
Yeah. Oh. this one. There you go. There we go. >> Charles Janigian, 165 Spring Street. Um, I did not get a chance to look at the
exact agenda, but can you I have a list here that may cover the agenda as a resident of Red Bank. The agendas are right here on the table too. You could certainly ah >> we leave the copy right here at the
front of the room for everyone to take a copy opportunity afterward regardless of whether >> I'll look at the agenda first and then go. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Have any questions or comments on agenda items only? Yes.
>> Yes, Mr. Pu. Actually, Mr. Poku, we're going to do it up here at the in the corner here. That mic. Yeah. In this box. Good evening, mayor and council.
Um, the first agenda item that I want to speak on is the black business. glad that uh you did the proclamation, but what I'd like to let the mayor and counselor understand
is that this is not friendly at all to black businesses. The two funeral homes core and child's have closed >> and many attempts by other folks to
establish businesses in this town uh have met with a lot of hurdles. Now, currently I do individually have a a case that's concerning uh the use of trailers
in this town. I mean, when it first started, it was that you could not park a trailer on public lands in uh in Redbank and that was challenged in court. I met up with uh Mr. cannon in
front for Judge Guardano and eventually that was modified uh and it became that the trailers had to be hitched. Now, if you you look at all the types of uh buildings that are coming up in Redman, you know, these
huge buildings that look like uh B ships in uh Star Trek, you cannot really envision someone dragging a trailer into any of the uh parking places in uh in those uh uh
constructions that are coming up. Now, if you look at, for instance, on Bank Street, there's a a new building out there going for $1.2 million uh with a onecar garage. Now, if you were to try to set up a homebased
business where you needed to use a a trailer, for instance, you could not drag your trailer into that little car port in there, and you most likely would want to have to uh park on a a street,
you know. So when it comes down to uh people with very little capital trying to set up uh businesses that uh like uh landscape businesses and all that stuff that would not work in uh in Redbank and
I I believe that you should uh take a look at reconsidering uh as it is right now. Uh the cases in Chance Court uh Mr. Canon wrote uh some kind of an email to uh Brian Donahghue saying that the case
had been dismissed. Yes, it was dismissed without prejudice. And uh without prejudice means that uh a case can be made to reinstate it. And the reason that it is dismissed without prejudice is that there's been
difficulties with uh serving the town. And uh I have a copy of uh the material that uh needs to be served. And if uh there was any brave person here today that uh could take that material and
hand it over to the mayor served to the mayor. I cannot serve it because I'm party to the uh uh the litigation. So that that is one one aspect of uh you know
speaking on u the uh business aspect of black folks trying to set up business in this town. The second item that I have is uh there's been some controversy about my role as
the president of the bank NAACP and I spoke with uh Miss on the agenda. No, no. >> All right. >> I would just I would just ask Mr. Broker that we save that one till the public comment at the end because it's not this is for agenda items only. >> All right. Okay.
>> Well, we can you certainly can speak to that uh at our public comment at the end of the meeting. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments on agenda items only? Anyone online? Jim D. Okay.
>> Good evening. Can you hear me? Okay, mayor. >> Yes. Yeah, just uh two comments on agenda items. Um being that I got my tax bill and I know most of the increase was due to the school, but I decided to take a look at some of the bills that we pay
uh that are on the agenda. And I did notice that the National Night Out, which was a great event. Unfortunately, I was out of town. Um we paid for a face painter that came out of the water account. So, I don't know if that's an error in accounting, but I don't think that account should be paying for. uh
the face painters. Uh and then the second comment uh around the bills is we spent about $9,600 in fuel costs. And I was wondering if we had a a good regulatory policy or monitoring uh in place to make sure that the fuel costs
are in line with business for the town and not for personal use. So those were the two comments on the bills. And then a comment on Marine Park. I would hope uh as we've had many communications about our other parks uh and how a lot
of the work has had to be repaired or replaced or fixed going back to the bathrooms in East Side uh going back to the tennis courts at East Side, going back to the basketball hoops at Bassy. Um I would like to see some more uh strength in the contracts that are being
written so that when work is not performed satisfactory that it gets corrected timely. uh and not at the expense of us park users who can't use the facilities or get frustrated in the fact that they came to fix puddling at the east side tennis courts and they
didn't fix it and they did patch a one by one inch hole uh along with missing 15,000 other cracks in that court. Uh so I just wanted to express my frustration around the parks and I'm hopeful that Marine Park which will be beautiful. I'm
excited to use it. I love that the grass is at the river, but um I just want to be able to use it once it's done and not have it to be repaired over and over again. So that's all. Thank you. >> Yes, >> I found the agenda.
>> Okay. Okay, Charles again, 165 Spring Street >> and I believe we just had him, Mr. Craig Dolan. I don't know if he's present or >> on Zoom. >> He's on Zoom. Marine Park. It's going to
be aesthetically a beautiful park, but how about the foundation of the park? Like you said, >> the sidewalk, the cracking water dump completely ruined on both core >> and water management there. I
understand. >> I know you had the engineering and done. >> No, I'm sorry. It was just >> Oh, >> and also the liability. How much is this going to cost to have a zipline?
Uh to have a 20,000 square foot playground. >> Do you have a question about the the awarding of the contract, which is what the agenda item is. >> Okay. I do not have that specifically. I understand it went to Monarch. So, I'll
prepare the agenda for the end. Excuse me. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, anyone else have a question or comment for agenda items only? Yes. >> Again, William Pok 90 bank street. I
thought I might have run out of my five minutes when you signal me that the next agenda item that I want to speak on is the final reading of uh the ordinance that's making amendments to the redevelopment
uh what you call it that was adopted by adopted by the council from the planning board uh and uh opra that I submitted to uh the town that was just
brought over to me today. Uh there's a letter that goes from uh Mr. Canon to um Brian Donghue and it basically spells out
um the back back then the NAACP position on um what redevelopment is going to bring to uh this town. So um I believe
that um you had a copy already Mr. uh Portland because the uh the letter was addressed to you that said need for formal engagement between the B of Red Bank and the NAACP and it spells out what we believe was
missing in uh in in the plans, you know. So, I don't need to read all of that, but uh I'd like to give you a copy of that. I mean, so so that for the record, you have it that >> I believe it was emailed to me several
months ago, right? >> Several months ago. Okay. >> Sure. I have it in >> Right. And it basically spells out our Miss Given as far as uh uh the redevelopment is concerned that uh it's
a fact that the uh what do you call it? uh the gentrification that's gone on in Red Bank has reduced the uh African-American population and that it's not sustainable
and uh with the what you call it uh train station redevelopment that you're looking at there's really no place for um lowincome type housing and uh I think that you
should engage as was sent to you earlier because the next step as you know is that it's a 60-day uh what you call a time where it can be challenged and it definitely will be challenged if we cannot come to some
kind of a a forum to get someone like Peter Bontmple. Peter P on Temple presented to the planning board about the middle housing that uh instead of all luxury
and then 20% uh set aside for uh affordable we should start thinking about things like what you just did with the pilot for locus and u cedar crossing you know cedar crossing is something that basically is not functioning
properly just as you gave a pilot for Lucas you might as well consider consider doing something with Cedar Crossing uh governance and getting it more viable as an entry point for people lowincome people coming into red bank
you know so uh this is basically putting you on notice that if we cannot get some kind of a forum to bring the NAACP's perspective you know we've engaged with Peton Temple who is an architect to see whether we can incorporate middle
housing into uh this redevelopment. So that's what I I have for that. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments for agenda items only?
>> Anyone else online? Jim, have a motion to close the public comment for agenda items only. >> I'll make such a motion. >> Have a second. >> Second. All >> in favor? >> I. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes from 7:24 to 2025? >> So moved. I
>> have a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Right. We have a bunch of ordinances here. Um you'll have an opportunity to comment on any of the ones that we are approving. Um and then there'll be another I'm going to public comment at the uh closer
to the end of the meeting for anything that's on your mind. So, first up, we have a final reading and public hearing for ordinance 2025-17 entitled an ordinance amending chapter 490, planning and development regulations to repeal section 490-154
TS train station and replace same with the burough's newly adopted train station redevelopment plan. This ordinance was introduced on July 10th, 2025. Um, can I have a motion to open the floor for public comment on this ordinance only? >> So moved.
>> Have a second. Second. >> All in favor? >> I want to have any comments or questions on ordinance 2025-17. >> Hey Karen Karen. >> Hello Mayor Council. How are you? I'm Carara Mastrianiano, 75 Oakland Street,
and I just want to know what the difference is from what was introduced and what you are changing today is I think I read it, but I'd like to hear it. >> That a little bit because it also involves the planning. I had to look.
So, basically, this isn't a change to the redevelopment plan that came through again planning council before. What it's doing is repealing an existing a previous uh train station. It was really an overlay district that was actually a much larger area than the development
plan is um looking at. uh it uh didn't really accomplish quite as much as it intended the zoning. You know, there's special zoning in that area. But now that we've focused on this particular area directly around the train station with the redevelopment plan, we want to
focus there and remove that sort of extraneous layer in a bigger area. >> Okay, that makes sense. I didn't know if you changed um >> another legal aspect to to round out your point. Um the standards from the old district and the new redevelopment
plan weren't necessarily the same and our planner was concerned that arguments can be made for greater hydro density that were things that were specifically written out of the new redevelopment plan during Christina's planning process. That's the other reason too. >> All right, that's satisfying. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments on this ordinance only? Anyone online, Jim? No sir. >> Okay. Can I have a motion to close the public comment on this ordinance only? >> Move. >> I have a second. >> Second.
>> All in favor? >> I. >> And I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-17. >> So moved. >> You need a roll call on an ordinance like that. >> We're going to do it right now. That was just for the public here. >> I miss I'll second it.
>> I moved. But second. Okay. Roll call, please. Mayor. Council member Bonitakis, >> yes. >> Council member Cassidy, >> yes. >> Council member Facy Blackwood, >> yes. >> Council member Forest, >> yes. >> Council member Janelle, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Trianiano, >> yes.
>> Mayor Portman, >> yes. By the way, my mic's offline. >> Yeah, our mics aren't working. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, yep. >> You know why? >> Turn off that mic. >> It might be this. >> Oh, yeah. That light's red. So, maybe that's doing it. >> You never know.
>> Try that. Yeah, >> we can shout. >> Let's be loud. >> I can share. >> All right. >> Okay. Uh, next up is a final reading and public hearing for ordinance 2025-23 entitled a bond ordinance providing for
various 2025 capital improvements to the fire department facilities by and in the burrow red bank in the county of Mammoth State of New Jersey appropriating 265,000 and authorizing the issuance of $251,750
in bonds or notes of the burrow to finance part of the cost thereof. This ordinance was introduced on July 24th, 2025. Do I have a motion to open the floor for public comment on this ordinance only? >> I make such a motion. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I >> All right. If you have any Does anyone have any questions for ordinance 2025-23? And mayor, just to clarify and give background to this, this is for improvements to HVAC in the fire companies and also purchase of two
generators, uh, which will obviously enhance emergency operations in times of need when the power's out. >> Thank you. Anyone on the line with questions? >> No, sir. >> Anyone here have a question for this ordinance only? Okay. Can I have a
motion to close the public comment on this ordinance only? >> So move. >> I have a second. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-23. >> So moved. I >> have a second. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. Mary.
>> Council member Berakis. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mayor, I'm actually going to abstain only because I believe the hook and ladder is supposed to get one of the generators and ultimately I'm a member of the hook and ladder. I fully support this bills and all and I appreciate this council and the community supporting the
fire department, but just for the air of of of full visibility, I'm going to abstain from this one. >> All right. >> Thank you, Council Member. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Blackwood. >> Yes. >> Council member Forest. >> Yes.
>> Council member Jano. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Triiano. >> I'll follow Councilman Cassid's lead. I'm a member of Westside Hose. I believe they're obtaining a generator to also be an emergency uh station in town. So, I will abstain. >> And mayor,
>> yes, I have. It's directly. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Okay, next up is a final reading and public hearing for ordinance 2025-24 entitled a bond ordinance providing for phase one of the construction of a new department of utilities facility in and
for the burrow of Redbank in the county of Mammoth State of New Jersey appropriating $4,875,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance of $4,640,000 in bonds or notes of the burrow to finance part of the costs thereof. vote.
This ordinance was introduced on July 24th, 2025. I have a motion to open the public hearing on this ordinance only. >> Make such a motion. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> Does anyone have any questions or comments about this ordinance only? This
is the final finally getting started on the rebuild of the public works department that's been in trailers for like >> 2003. Since >> 2003 has a comment. Either one, Steve. Either this booth or that
booth. But you got to go in the little booth. The table mics aren't working. >> Come closer to us. Steve likes us better. Steve >> 135 Branch Avenue. Um question about uh the the um final amount or the total
amount for this job. Where are we in figuring that out? And understood that a ballpark figure is all you can do. >> Yeah, it's hard.
>> I'm not going to throw out a ballpark figure because I know where ballparks get me in this business. But what I will say is that through this process, there's a lot that still has to be done as far as, you know, seeing what sort of envir environmental impact we have
there. um having the architecture scale the project in ways that we're working through a committee on. So scale of the project also has a lot to do with the final ballpark. Um but there's a lot of professional services that has to be done first. So that's why we're setting
this up as a phase one. I think as we move forward in phase one and get through phase one, we will have a much clearer picture of what that ballpark is. >> Okay. And >> but I need this vote tonight to do that. Um so the
uh 875 um encapsulates the 4640 or are they cumulative? >> That's correct. >> Which >> it it encapsulates. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh last point, please
urge council members and whomever will um speak here to please use the microphone. It's It's not possible to hear. >> Yep. >> Thank you. Does anyone else have any
questions or comments on this orance only? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Come on up and hit that little button there. So, the Yep. And then just state your name and address and speak nice and loud >> at O'Neal 40 Herbert Street. Um the it
is the intention of the utility renovations to be in the same site. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Okay. >> And um as you said, phase one is really about soft cost versus hard costs, >> correct? >> For the most part. Yes. >> Generally.
>> Okay. Um and do do we know the scope yet of what is to be done? Well, we we have an idea of what of what we'd like to build there, but I think a lot of the some of the initial things that Jim just brought up, we don't know what kind of >> here. I'm sorry.
>> Yeah, we don't know what the environmental impact will be yet. So, we don't, you know, when you open up the >> the ground that is that complex without question. I mean the idea the idea as far as scope goes is to create enough bays for the vehicles to be stored in to
create a mechanic workshop that's you know to be worked in to create an area for us to keep our road salt. Um we're not going to be touching the water treatment facility that's already there. Um we will be creating you know administrative offices locker rooms you
know things like that for the for the the crew to work in and out of. Right. >> Um obviously different turning radius relocate the gas pumps. Right now they're directly on Chestnut Street. >> They need to be in the facility and secured, >> right?
>> So couple different moving parts there. The area and largely most of the property would need to be demolished. >> I would think. >> Right. So that's where actually >> demolished and relocated. We're going to have to come up with some sort of
temporary operation area too. So some of that cost is built into this as well. >> Certainly. So at this point there's no quote unquote plan because that's all part of what you're all >> right. There's a there's a I believe I saw an architectural rendering but not a site plan yet.
>> Okay. >> That's great. Thank you. >> You anyone else have any questions on this ordinance only or comments? Okay. Okay. Can I have a motion to close the public comment on this ordinance only? >> So moved.
>> I'll second. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Can I have a motion to approve ordinance 2025-24? >> So moved. >> I'll second it. >> And second it. Roll call, please. Mayor. >> Council member Bonitakis.
>> Yes. >> Council member Cassidy. >> Yes. >> Council member Facy Blackwood. >> Yes. >> Council member Forest. Mayor, I'm going to make comment. Um, very proud that this process is starting in something that
>> the button mics are broken down here. >> Microphone. >> Press the button. >> Fold that cost. >> DPW. >> Go to the boot. >> Go to the confessional. >> Hey, turn your mic. probably gonna have to do something about this at some point.
>> Um, so probably for 20 years as a as a member of the public and I've been sitting here listening about our uh problems over public utility facility and it is something that certainly was an election issue. It's an eyes sore and frankly
also concerned about uh the safety in there. >> Amen. uh for our staff. Uh I remember actually uh going in there with my son when he was doing his Eagle Scout project because he was doing a public public works related thing as well and kind of
being appalled at the inside of that >> hanger they have and the conditions in there and I was like too that they didn't want it to sit even that time which was about seven years ago. >> So uh this is overdue. I'm very proud that um we're getting things done. It's
not easy doing these things and no one wants to spend money, but this is necessary and we have to do what's necessary. >> That's my comment, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you, I'd like to make a comment, too. >> We can hear you. >> Can you hear me? >> Was that a yes? >> Yes.
>> Thank you, sir. >> Um, so I would say yes, too. We had ad hoc committee for the DPU. So, David Cassidy, Nancy Facy Blackman, myself. um Mary were there and Jim the place is unbelievable that they've been in those trailers that long. I think they were
supposed to be for five years they were in there. They ran them 20 something years now. >> 22 22. >> It's it's appalling that people work in a situation like that and that wasn't addressed earlier. Um our people deserve like today they brought tents and stuff
over to us when we were doing our fair, our wellness fair. They worked hard. They deserve to work in a safe place. back here. I am with my safe seat stuff. So, um, we have to replace those trailers and get this done. Thank you. Yes, that was a yes.
>> Thank you. >> Deputy Mayor Triiano. >> Yes. And Mayor Portman? >> Yes. >> Okay. Next up is a final reading and public hearing for ordinance 2025-25 entitled an ordinance amending chapter
680 vehicles and traffic to create new no parking zones on Hudson Avenue, Tilton Street, and Catherine Street to enhance public safety. This ordinance was introduced on July 24th, 2025. And I have a motion to open the public comment on this ordinance only. >> So moved.
>> I have a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Does anyone have any questions or comments on this ordinance only? >> Requested by the chief, right? >> Changes that were requested by the chief. >> Thank you.
>> Traffic safety and the chief. Yes. >> Online, Jim. >> No, sir. Can I have a motion to close the public hearing on this ordinance only? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Second. All >> in favor? I
>> Can I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-25? >> So moved. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member Bonitakis, >> yes. >> Council member Cassidy, >> yes. >> Council member Facy Blackwood, >> yes.
>> Council member Forest, >> yes. >> Council member Janone, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Triana, >> yes. >> And Mayor Portman, >> yes. Next up is an introduction of ordinance 2025-26
entitled an ordinance amending chapter 680 vehicles and traffic to revise time limited parking and drop off zone regulations in proximity to 273 Shrewsbury Avenue. I believe this is uh the the Thrive project, Jim, is that correct? Correct. Yeah.
>> So, we're just um modifying the parking in front of the new neurodyivergent housing that's going up on Shrewsbury Avenue. Um, >> I'd also note this is consistent with the land use approval and also requested by Mammoth County Planning Board. >> Yes. >> So, not just
>> Thank you.mp important details. Um, can I have a motion to approve ordinance 2025-26 on introduction? >> Yes. >> So moved. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member Bonitakis.
>> Yes. Council member Cassidy, >> yes. >> Council member Facy Blackwood, >> yes. >> Council member Forest, >> yes. >> Council member Janelle, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Trianiano, >> yes. >> And Mayor Portman, >> yes. >> Uh public hearing and adoption will be
on 828 for this ordinance. Next up is an ordinance intro uh for introduction. Ordinance 2025-27 entitled an ordinance creating a new chapter 303 construction dust control to require containment of construction dust and
microlastics. Can I have a motion to approve ordinance 2025-27 on introduction? >> So moved. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member Botakis, >> yes. >> Council member Cassidy, >> yes.
>> Council member Facy Blackwood, >> yes. at the request of the environmental commission. Definitely. >> Council member Forest, >> yes. >> Council member Jano, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Trianiano, >> yes. >> And Mayor Portman. >> Uh, yes. And I just want to point out again, as someone in the construction
business, I definitely want to make sure that the language um and the requirements are something that are simple to accomplish for the uh the builder. Um we're trying to streamline things in Redbank to make devel make building for residents for
everyone um not such a hassle. Um so I want to make sure that this is uh kind of goes along with that direction. But yes, >> they are they are >> Thank you, >> mayor. I will say um so the the bulk of this language was taken from Maplewood's
ordinance. Um, the one thing that was struck from it after myself and Councilwoman Blackwood reviewed it, uh, was that, uh, it it had prison time placed in Maplewood's ordinance if this was not followed. Um, we obviously struck that, um, from their version of
the ordinance. Um, I did share the same concerns as you, but, after reading it, I did believe that the solutions um, were extremely simple. It was like, "Hey, if you make a huge pile of microlastics, you know, um, shop, back it up." Uh, it
was really really really simple language to understand and most of it was it it was it was easy to understand. Um, so yeah, review it. It's one page. It's it's really it's really um digestible
and my my fears were dissipated once I reviewed uh what the environmental commission was proposing. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> Um I could like to add one more thing that there is a website that is up here and um I have some flyers that can be
posted to the Bora website that explains what construction dust is and how you can contain it as well. And it's simple things, you know, like >> use a vacuum, use a tent when you're cutting, clean up when you're done, use a tarp underneath so the dust doesn't go
flying around and um into our storm water drain. >> Yes. Use a wet saw when you can like really >> straightforward. >> Thank you. I'll be a public hearing on this ordinance on August 28th. >> Um next up, we have a bunch of resolutions. Does anyone need to pull
any of these out or can we approve them on the consent agenda? >> Yeah, Mr. Mayor 25-162 is approval of the fire department's low staff benefit. I need to be uh I'd like that separate. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Let's do that one now first then. Can I
have a motion to approve 25-162? >> I make such a motion. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member Bonakis, >> yes. >> Council member Cassidy, >> abstain. Council
member Facy Blackwood, >> yes. >> Council member Forest, >> yes. >> Council member Jano, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Triiano, >> and Mayor Portman, >> yes. >> There's a bunch here, too. Does any of
these now need to be highlighted or can we do these on the consent agenda? Just take a moment. >> Mayor, I'm okay with them going in mass. Yeah, I reviewed them all. >> Okay. Um, and can I have a motion to approve 25-161
through 25-179US 25-162 under the consent agenda? >> I make such a motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Council member Bonitakis, >> yes. >> Council member Cassidy, >> yes.
>> Council member Facy Blackwood, >> yes. >> Council member Forest, >> yes. Council member Jano, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Triana, >> yes. >> Mayor Portman, >> yes. >> Um, we have a bunch of events happening um waiting for our approval. If everyone's okay, I'll just read them
out. First is a health fair to the Wesleyan community on August 28th. That one is tenative sub subject to a few reviews. There's the end of summer youth rock concert at Riverside Gardens Park on August 29th from 7 to 9. the Elm Place block party on Sunday, September
6th from 9 to 10 with a rain date of the 13th. The Redbank Town wide yard sale on September 13th. Rain date is September 14th. The Hispanic Heritage Committee at Riverside Gardens Park is requesting a time change for their celebration on
September 14th. New time will be 2 pm to 8:00 pm. >> Later, >> there's a Count Basey sidewalk event, which is the first Hall of Fame inductee ceremony on Thursday, September 25th from 10 to 1. The South Street Block Party is Saturday, September 27th from 4
to 10 with a ring date of September 28th. Leonardo Jewelers is having their grand opening on Thursday, October 16th. It'll all be inside. 180 Turning Lives Around is doing Paint the Town Purple for the month of October. The Westside Tree Laying at Johnny Jazz Park will be
on December 5th and the Record Riot Street Fair on Mechanic Street will be Sunday, September 14th. Everyone good? >> Yep. >> All right. Next up, can I have a motion to open the floor for public comment? >> Make such a motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> I. >> All right. This is a public comment for anything that's on your mind, whether it's on the agenda or not. Yes, sir. There you go. It's working. >> Hello again, Charles. >> Working.
>> 165 Spring Street. Um, since I'm here, I'd like to first commend that gentleman over there public works. Correct. >> Yes. >> Yes. specifically Marine Park is going to become a uh public works nightmare
maintaining that property. Uh you got a big commitment coming up and I'm just want to make sure that your crew and whatnot is prepared. >> Just to clarify, he's he's not on the public works. He's a councilman who was just speaking in favor of the public
works. >> Okay, I'm speaking in favor of them, too. Uh, next is the safety of the crosswalks on uh, Maple A. I know it is owned by the state, but it's still Red Bank's responsibility to lay back down
those crosswalks before there is an accident. Uh, the vehicles do not pay attention to signs. And then next are the marine park issues. Uh the infrastructure has to be
keep up with the aesthetics of the park. I understand it's going to be beautiful, but as an instance, do we need a hammock? Do we need a zipline? Uh is there water management issues?
And those all have to be addressed. So, we have to space. Also, specifically, what about the liability of having a zipline? >> Just just to be clear, the zip line's about 2 feet off the ground. It's not a it's not like a suspended in the trees.
It's like a short little >> Okay. All right. Making sure that everybody is protected. >> Yes. >> Okay. The hammock and what is that's another issue. um the playground, hammock, waste management, water management, and the
restroom facilities. Will they be able to handle the foot traffic that comes in? Uh that building is very very small. It's it's maintained by as well as it can be. But are you prepared for the
folks that are going to come to use that park? It's becoming a big park. I believe we're ready. >> You're ready. Okay. So, that is my concern. Our liability, water management, waste management, and also
the maintenance of the park. >> Amen. >> And yeah, >> I'll let you go after that. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your patience. >> You got it. All right. Thank you. Just hit that hit that button again. There we go. >> Anyone else have any questions or
comments? Yes. Hey. Hey. Hello. >> You guys too? >> Good. Name is Linda Clark. I'm actually sorry button >> button on the microphone. >> There we go. My name is Linda Clark. I'm a homeowner over at Cedar Crossing. I've
been here before and I see familiar faces. Yes. That have come to our meetings. Even when we had them at Calvary Baptist Church or even over at um >> basically as far as sometimes even at the >> I can't even think of the room but at the Evergreen Terrace. So we had voting and everything. So there's been some
issues I know as far as from time to time I've read articles in the newspaper and some of it kind of like concerning some of it basically as far as been something I hadn't had a chance to come down here um for the past two years. because I've been taking care of my mom before she passed um Memorial Day weekend. So, that's as far as a
president issue for me. It's still difficult, but I just felt it was a negative for me to come address along with a couple of the homeowners that are here. Some of them couldn't make it to the meeting. I know I got three minutes, but it's just basically as far as um >> take your time. >> It's some issues that have been going on
prior to the new people that have been over there, such as Lisa. Some of it has been continuously going on since Lisa's been there. We try to address certain situations but it's CD crossing is not functioning properly. That's the easiest thing I can say. Um I know as far as
there was one election and I did speak um prior to when we had the meeting at Calvary and there were people that even came to the election at one point but even at that course that was the first time that we've ever had an election >> for 13 years. >> Correct. >> Yeah. For your HO.
>> Exactly. And then as far as some people have gotten frustrated because of the fact that it hadn't been something where we've been able to kind of even get communication whether it was from different people prior to Lisa I think it was a guy named Snider and different people that had that position over from
Red Bank housing and being able to actually as far as assist us. There's not been proper communication even with this board right now. I believe we might have three members instead of five because the one guy Mike who might have actually met with some of the board members down here as far as council just as well as the other guy I believe Chris
I don't even think they're living there anymore and sometimes it feels as if like oh okay we've joined this board for our personal reasons so we can sell our homes and now all of a sudden we're out and whatever is left over there just keep on doing what you guys are doing. So people have frustration in terms of as far as like some of the proper or
improper billing or even just what's going on with the money in a sense basically as far as even the maintenance of the property. I know even down by where I live it's dark at night. The lights are not working. If I didn't have lights from the brownstones, it wouldn't even be something that you could see out
there because the trees have grown overgrown and it's so dark over there. So safety is an issue just as well as I see a car that's parked out there that is plugged up from the back of their house to be able to charge the Tesla at night. So when you look at lawsuits, if
somebody walks through and trips over that, that's a big issue. So as far as even just trying to say that we do need some assistance from the board, um in terms of even like I said with the money, there's been issues where people have paid a lot of money towards these maintenance fees and basically as far as not even knowing what's been going on
with the money. I know as far as my personal situation right now, I'm dealing with the court situation where I'm actually as far as appealing to the court in Trenton and even just looking I believe as far as even with Abadella is the attorney somehow or another was hired prior to that it was two different attorneys. Oops.
>> Don't worry about that. >> Okay. There were two different attorneys that were involved but nothing has ever been resolved. So even just requesting some assistance on that matter. Personally for me, we can kind of talk about it probably personally like you know not in front of everybody but at the same time something to try to get
some resolve to this because of the fact this has been going on for since like 2021. I've reached out to the NAACP. I've reached out to Mammoth County as far as the legal services. There's different things I've been trying to do and it's hard to me to say that I've grown up in Red Bank all my life. >> North Todd is my aunt. So when I see
lunch break and a lot of things that have been going on, I've come from a family that is actually as far as done a lot of service and as far as when I see all these buildings being built up around here and people as far as even asking money and taxes to be written off and I look at over here, we're talking about $60 to $80,000 about maintenance
fees that people are saying are overdue and blame it on the homeowners. That's not necessarily true in terms of the fact that when you look at these bylaws, some of these bylaws have not been filed properly. And so when I say as far as the people that on this committee, they look at certain ones that they want to actually as far as focus on. They ignore
the other ones. And those are the ones that they're ignoring and not as far as something that we feel are probably something that we need to be held accountable for. If you're going to look at things fairly, look at it fairly. But let's not just sit there and say, "Oh, the homeowners didn't do this. The homeowners did this." Because in fact, if we looked at those bylaws, anybody
would not have been taken past them here. >> Yep. >> And follow through. So how would we get to 60 to $80,000? I've been meaning to come down here a long time ago. Then when we say as far as there hadn't been certain people on these committees that hadn't been trying to help, there have been people as far as even within those committees that know about these
situations. And some of them I believe in December of a year or so ago were removed from those positions. So I've been following a lot of things that been going on. It's just that the frustration level has been hard. And you guys were at the meeting as said you should get on the board. They should vote you guys on.
They purposely didn't vote us on. That's probably been one of the things meetings that we had where it was basically as far as different homeowners that showed up. Even we had that meeting at Calvary. That's probably the most anybody has actually shown up because the communication was there. Now we have a website. Now we have as far as even
these notices that kind of come out of the moon to us. But it's as if the homeowners not even realizing and understanding that we are the homeowners of a residence. We're not public housing as far as in terms we're affordable housing, but we're not public housing as if like we live in the projects. or we
look at Abadella or we even look at as far as the housing itself. We've already hired them to help us do property management, but it seems because the board members don't understand what's supposed to go on. They're listening to them tell them what they want to do and they're just following through with it.
So, the roles have been reversed and we're just going to focus on what we want to focus on. Even though we're not calling that, it has been happening. So, as far as it's just looking to see if somebody can help and intervene on those behalf, excuse me, on behalf of the homeowners >> and and this has been I don't I mean Jim
has been handling and I'm going to let him speak to it, but we've been actively trying to figure out what what we can do to support you. And Jim, I'll let you >> just before that, I just do I do know as far as some of the homeowners, they couldn't be here tonight. They've been getting letters now from a CPA. So
somewhere along the lines of CPA has been handing out letters saying that you owe certain fees that might not even been something that they owe. There's basically as far as impersonal audience, they got a letter a while back and it was basically something where because these books that have been created as ledgers were not books that have been followed through for the past 13 years.
You can't create a ledger. We can take you to court right now and sit there and say as far as a judge is not going to say that that's honored as an official document because you pieced together some books and you want to sit there and present them to a CPA as a ledger. So those are things as far as I'm saying like I've been we know but it's
basically as far as the frustration from time to time a lot of people get a little nervous about speaking to you guys directly. There's been issues with the taxes. I do have paperwork here just to hand because of the fact that we've been trying to get some assistance with that as well. So I don't know if I can give this to you. >> Give us whatever you want. Gota
>> hang on. I know >> I was just going to say actually it was kind of a good segue to what you said at the end as far as the books and the ledgers and things like that. There's there's kind of two steps that need to happen first before we can even determine what our role in this is.
>> And you know that there's obviously the issues because you are your own condo association. >> U so government comes in got to find our place. What we did agree to do and this governing body talked about and agreed
to do was support and fund the audit of Cedar Crossing which I don't know if that one had ever been done. >> Um so the >> that was something that came up at the meeting and it was so weird because when we did I had asked for that over and over and they fought me sitting there saying it's going to cost too much money. It was as if we're
>> pay but at the same time with your auditing or books that were created most likely by Lisa because during certain meetings that we had when we were on Zoom that I probably have to take on my camera. It was as if like she was letting us know that she was putting together ledgers for each homeowner. >> Listen, these are professional auditing
services that are paid for. They're you know that'll whatever the concerns are will come out >> in audit. Secondly, what the bureau has agreed to pay for through affordable housing trust funds is the reserve study that's needed as well for the
condensation for people to actually sell their homes to get mortgages, not have to pay cash for an affordable housing, >> right? >> Um, you know, uh, >> property, which is kind of counterintuitive. Someone just did it. I just found out when I'm sitting there, somebody else just sold it. So it's as if like people that are
actually looking towards doing it for affordable housing reasons and helping to set up. Some people just didn't understand what the process is. Some of it's not some of it might not be reading through these bylaws and seeing what's actually as far as supposed to be held accountable. The other part is more or less like for 13 years prior to this board. We held they held on to it. No
one was actually taking that invested interest. So now all of a sudden when we take that interest, let's just sit there and blame the homeowners when it really wasn't the homeowners. We have three or four people that were on the board making decisions and some of them were confused and now all of a sudden they're listening to people that they shouldn't really be listening to. So when you see someone come up there they're looking at
you're the as the problem instead of trying to sit there and say Ashley you need to like listen to what I'm saying because there's a little bit more to this than what's actually being under rocks. >> I mean I've had dogs under rocks. Exactly. You know I've had several meetings with the division of consumer affairs. >> Yes. We reached out to them. We actually
put a complaint and as far as ask for an investigation. had meetings with them about Cedar Crossing and NJHMFA about the actual mortgages that that happen there. Um, so we've had several meetings to set things up, see what we
need to get in motion. And again, we're we're balancing that line of where government gets involved >> where you as a Cedar Crossing resident and potential home, you know, association member may be and and the board where you're where you're
>> the services of the housing authority. services the housing what what they are deed restricted to do >> so they're balancing their line as well too >> in a lot of ways they've been balancing it but some of those meetings that were not privileged to or hadn't been for years have been decisions being made for
us by two or three people that don't even understand this process and we've been held in account we've been held accountable at the same time you have people sitting here saying as far as like I paid all this money and I can't even get the bushes trimmed I know people came down here and talked about the power washing on housing, but I'm
saying that there's bigger issues. Not saying that those are not important, but there are some very serious issues going on. And when you sit there and see somewhere along the lines in Redbank, all this building going up around you, millions of dollars, and you're talking about as far as people asking for tax write offs of millions of dollars, and here we are being held accountable for
60 to $80,000. That looks crazy to me. I lived on the east side. I've grown up on the west side. I've seen right bait. So, for me to see something like that and her say, "Okay, we're going to put you in this vine and we're just going to blame you. You guys handle that." That's how it's feeling right now for a lot of people and somehow or another. That's why I say as far as something has to
happen and it can't just be oh the board is saying we're listening unofficially to Abadella or we're listening to as far as Lisa and Lisa's not the most friendliest person at times. She's been very rude to me. That's why as far as I just actually just wipe my hands in that conversation. And so somewhere along the
lines the professionalism has to come across because of the fact that we have people that would want to actually as far as get involved and some of them basically as far as get intimidated from that stuff and it's not fair. >> Well I I'll say this governing body myself included you know we've we've done a lot of work on this more than had
been done in 13 years >> just in the last year. >> Um so you know it's not swept under the rug anymore. I think a lot of things were brought to light >> um that we listened to. Yeah. >> And I remember when the mayor first brought me in in a meeting in his office and said, "Hey, come on. You got to hear
what's going on here." >> And then we started digging in to see what we can do to help dig out. >> So I I think that it unfortunately it is a long process. >> Um it's I just want to jump in for one second. I think because there's a lot more of this to get to and I just want
to keep our meeting running. Will you just >> either exchange numbers with me or let's just set up a meeting this week where we can sit down. We'll put an hour aside and we can just >> meet your concerns and and and let you know in more detail what we're what we've been trying to do. >> Okay. But I'm hoping somewhere along the
lines even with the homeowners, maybe a couple more might want to come out. >> Anyone's welcome to come. Yeah, we'll set up a meeting. >> We even tried to put as far as even like a steering committee together just because things were not happening properly. So, it was just like even just trying to do certain things. It's just like something has to give. And even
just to say as far as like I have a I don't have time for me to be actually as far as going back and forth to Trenton and filing. You could see the stuff. You would have thought I had a murder case going on right now from 2021 up until now. And it's just basically as far as like in all fair. It's like let's be fair about this. Let's be reasonable, but just like let's sweep it under the
rug. And now a sudden I believe attorney Abadella is filing paperwork that she's struggling to do because there's some deficiencies that are coming back. But at the same time like it shouldn't have to take this much to be able to actually as far as get your resolve. And I know as far as some people even just before I wrap up they have it where there are
like I guess through section 8 like certain fees are paid through government funding and that's actually an issue. So is it really been going towards as far as senior crossing or even when you're doing as far as certain settlements for certain people like how is that even getting handled? So these are just certain things I'm saying like no one's
bringing to your attention even though it's not something that's number one on your agenda. It's just like, oh, okay, we don't speak about it down here. It goes on deaf ears. You can speak to as far as like a board member that's on that board. Now, the ones that actually, like I said, as far as out of the five, two of them have actually out of the 13
years that they sat there had to be reappointed by Lisa or whoever just because they couldn't find other people that were interested because the frustration level is so high right now. So, I would look forward to that for sure. >> Button on the microphone, too. Thank you so much.
>> Thank you. And I just want to get your feel. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments? Public any topic? >> Yes. >> Oh, thank you. Thank you. Just hit that button again. You know, >> um just two things. One is is quick,
which is >> we just do a favor just >> sorry. At O'Neal 40 Herp Street, one gentleman earlier talked about the crossings at Maple Avenue. I cross it every day. It's a real real problem. It's an accident waiting to happen. Particularly with kids. Kids come from
either St. James or middle school or whatever and they cross >> and people totally ignore the light. They blow through. Sometimes they accelerate. They get it almost like it's a yellow light. >> Which intersection are you talking about? >> You know Peter's Place
>> and Cather. >> It's a big corner. >> Whatever this I know it's a state highway. >> Yeah. So, whatever the state would suggest doing, >> the county commissioners, >> whatever to slow the people down, >> it's it's really bad. It's gonna hit
>> I I was almost hit today. >> Are you talking about when they remove the striping with for the resurfacing? >> Uh, yeah. So, you press the button, but nobody nobody stops. >> Oh, so there's no striping on Maple Avenue. That's what you're saying.
>> No, I don't think any personally. >> I know. I I almost got I know I know >> I don't know whether the state has a >> flashes >> suggestion reach out to the state and ask them what could be done >> at the Y there's no crossover either.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, I know that they resurfaced the road there. They may just not have done the repainting. >> They're in the process of repainting. You can see in different areas, but so I just got repainted >> that gentleman said. The second is a
question which is who does one talk to about invasive species of plant life overgrowing onto their property and mine is bamboo. >> That would be code. I actually was the person that introduced the ordinance
about invasive species including bamboo. Um so if you actually just Google bamboo invasive species redbank it'll come up in ebook in Google. I had that. I don't know who >> authority is code enforcement. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Anyone else have any questions or
comments? >> Hello. Hi, I'm Andy Hanigan. >> Get real close. >> Andy Hanigan, 66 Oak Street. Um, this is a a comment. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate, but I think it is. And
it's regarding the uh the train station redevelopment plan, >> but it's regarding the parking in that area and specifically on Oakland Street. Um, I just wanted to remind people I
think there's a misconception that that parking lot is not very much used for the train um during the day, but it is very much used at in the evenings when there are events going on in town and um the armory. But I just want to start
like putting the radar out there about parking enforcement on Oakland Street specifically because there are a lot of houses on our our part of the block that um either don't have driveways or they have to share driveways or they can only
fit one car in their driveway. So um I actually have a call in and I'm I'm going to follow up with traffic and safety. didn't get a call back yet, but there's no um two-hour parking sign on our side. So, I I really want them to
put that up. It's on the other side of the street, but we have a lot of people that come and park and just walk over to the train to pay the daily parking lot fee. So, you know, >> I know it's summertime, it's a little bit slower, but it's it's problematic
when you come home with your groceries and you can't find parking. And I'm, you know, I I just see it it will get worse once the the new building gets built. Um, so I think if they can install the the
two-hour parking sign, that would be really helpful. get out there more with the enforcement and I don't know the current status but I know a few years back we went to get like an updated parking sticker for our car and I think they said no it's fine
just so mine actually says 2017 on it >> okay so but maybe going forward we need to that especially if we're going to get a lot more residents coming and living here um you know I know the the town website directs people to the parking
lot train station for. So, you know, it's like what's going to happen when that building gets built and everyone's going to come take parking on residential streets. It's going to it's going to be frustrating for a period of
time. Um, and if if it becomes even more of a problem and maybe we could consider making that part of Oakland Street, you know, resident only. >> Yeah. Um, >> not even the the twohour. I I don't know. It's something to consider.
>> Thank you. >> Um, Mandy, just for clarification, are you you're on the the north side of Oakland, but the south side of Oakland has the two-hour parking. Is that what you're saying? >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Anyone else have any questions or comments? One sec. on poker again. >> Turn the microphone on. >> How'd you do that? >> Where your finger is? Right below it.
That one. >> William Pu again, 90 bank street. Um, Mr. Canon, I just want to find out whether you understand that I had a
settlement uh with for respect to property assessment. >> Okay. Okay. All right. Just on the record. So just wanted to know whether you know about that.
>> M Mr. Clark is the tax appeal attorney that you s with. >> Yes. So, I generally don't track every single case, but I'm sure if Mr. Clark says it's okay, that's his job in the in the law department, so I'm sure it's fine. >> Okay. All right. So, basically, the uh
the tax court acknowledges the argument that I made that the ADP, which Redbank has adopted, is in conflict with the Freeze Act. That was the argument that uh I I brought to Portland. And
basically, I'm saying this now to tell uh mayor and council that you need to start thinking about getting out of the ADP, opt out of the ADP. I mean, that request has been made in the past. And
to kind of uh illustrate to you, I was talking to the chief of police when he doing some work on Bank Street. There's a $1.2 million property asking price
plpped on Bank Street and it's assessed at $161,000. So, if you could kindly pass this over to the mayor. When I said that to the chief, he said, "What?"
Okay. So basically what happens is the luxury properties get plpped into red bank the assessments are low and everything around them goes
up not protected by the freeze act. So that was the argument that was brought to the tax court in Trenton and the judge bought that argument and the town had ament
using my itas assessment uh accordingly. So that's one thing that I believe that uh town should think about uh seriously. It's a whole bunch of folks that have
their taxes going up as the assessments go up and uh they don't understand what's going on. And this is something that we need to start looking at. Mr. Forest here, for instance, said one time
that if he was trying to get into Red Bank today, he couldn't afford it. >> I've said that more than once, Mr. Pope. Christ. And we we need to look into that, you know, to uh
and lastly, you heard uh Linda Clark speak and basically the Red Bank NAACP has been handholding her, helping her through the various courts and she's currently in the appellet
division of superior trying to handle some of the things that are going on in uh Cedar Cross and capital came to a meeting one time that was moderated by the NAACP. uh basically we don't have a resolution
and I'm saying that as we keep on building we need to think more about adding more of the cedar crossings locus and mental housing and uh until you engage with the NAACP
you're not going to get the input that you need as far as that's concerned. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Can you just hit that button please for me Mr. Proman? Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, >> B.
Council, thank you for s speak. Just say your name for the record. My name is Louisis Andreos. Napoli Italian Kitchen, Ted Wall Street, Red Bank. And I'm here to speak about the Broadwalk and what it's done to our businesses outside
of the Broadwalk, the perimeter of the Broadwalk. Uh I put together a group of us um restaurants that see a direct correlation when the Broadwalk Broadwalk is very busy, specifically when it's nice outside. we see our reservations,
our business dramatically decrease. Um, this is definitely by far the worst year we've ever seen. And it's, you could see the uh in the action in the pedestrian traffic at the Broadwalk. And then you look at our businesses. It's uh it's
incredibly difficult to do business when the Broadwalk is active. in June when the weather was uh raining every week weekend it wasn't as uh wasn't as dramatic but once the weather turned uh it became
uh very dramatic the the numbers we've never seen I've never seen I can't speak for everybody but I I've never seen business this slow before um and you see uh the irony is if you speak to some of the businesses on on Broadwalk they're
incredibly upset as well they want to see the Broadwalk in some capacity either done with or shrunk. And on top of that, it's uh Redbank is an incredibly difficult town as we all know when it comes to parking. Uh when you
compare Redbank to other towns that are comparable to us like Summit, Westfield, Cranford, uh Puchin, they stop their parking at six o'clock. We continue ours till 9. So, we're we make it Redbank makes it very difficult for us uh that
are not in the Broadwalk and that especially a business like mine on the side street just makes it very difficult for us to fill up our our venues. Um it's just we're here to to thrive, not just to survive. I'm in my 10th year now
and this is by far the most difficult year I've ever seen. And you could see as the pro world gets more popular, it takes away from us. And there's a direct correlation to that. And if you simply leave my place at 7:30, 8:00 and you turn left and you
look at Montichello, if you look at some of the places in Broadwalk or Centrada, catch 26, 26 West, we're not that busy at all. But then when you turn the corner and you look at Beravino, Nicholas, Gabriella's
Coliseum, places are packed. And there's a reason. It's they have free parking. We cannot compete. >> Say Billy just told me they're having their best year ever at 26 West. I was in there a couple weeks ago. Just ask them. So >> that's unfortunately
can't do anything. We have a liquor license issue in New Jersey. I would love to have a liquor license. I'd be speaking a different tone. >> I'd love you to have one, too. >> Yeah. >> But the issue for us as we see it, the broadwalk is makes things incredibly
difficult. It favors those businesses inside Broadwalk and 26 West is very good proximity. They have a liquor license is different. We see it impact impacting us negatively. And then on top of that, when your customers are constantly complaining, Louis, I just got a ticket. Um, you know, they write
us off. They just say this this it's it's very difficult for us to be a patron to patronize you. And for me, I do big parties. I can't do a big party during the week. If I if a party of 50 or 75 comes to me, they say, "Lis, where were we gonna where are we going to park on a Wednesday, Tuesday, Friday, or what
have you, I don't have an answer for them. It's it's difficult to park in Redbank, especially during the day. We're just look we're looking for Redbank to help us fill up our seats. We just want to succeed in this town. We want to do incredibly well in this town. We want to grow as the town is growing.
We don't want to struggle. We're not here to struggle." And it it it just doesn't relate to me as an individual, as the owner. it trickles down to all our staff. It's tough to hold on to staff, the servers that all those uh those employees that we have when we're not doing the numbers that we certainly
know we can do or we've done when the Broadwalk is not active. So, thank you for your time. If you have anything to say, I'm I'm here to listen. >> Thank you. Do me a favor, just hit that button on the Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments?
Yes. Come on up, sir. There you go. >> Where's right that little that little little there? >> I assume it's open to any kind of comments. >> Yeah. And just hit that button on the microphone so we can hear you. >> That's it right there. >> Just your name.
>> William Meyer. I have 12 Mama Street Red Bank. I've been here since uh significantly since the 70s. Um, do I have to Okay, so um I have three things I want to go over. First of all, um, today I witnessed something
that I had never thought I'd see in Red B. And that was a gentleman, a young kid on an ebike who was looking as an operating as if he intentionally wanted to be arrested.
He went down from Mama Street from from the intersection of Broad Mammoth. He went north on the west side of Broad Street sidewalk at 35 miles an hour. He
accelerated. This had to be a souped up battery on that bike. He got down to the He went so fast I couldn't take a picture up. He got down to where this broadwalk is, where you cut off Broad
Street, and then he stopped as if he was posing in front of the barriers there on Broad Street. After I asked the woman who had the store there if she had seen it, she said yes. She goes, "I don't know what I don't know what to do."
Um, he then got on the bike after what I would assume is posing or something arresting and he proceeded at a high rate of speed up going south on Broad Street, pulling a wheelie and then
making a turn against the red light and sliding his bike out and going down Mama Street. By the time I got to Mama Street and looked down the road, he was almost by the red light. This kid had to be doing 45 miles an hour down Mama Street easily. I tried calling the police. I
was so nervous I got the wrong police department. I have more on speed dial. I'm an attorney and and I gave them the information. But it was it it would be terri incredibly difficult to catch this kid. But it's
getting worse every single day. you need to force people who are going to ride ebikes and and there were two kids that I had stopped that were pizza slice on the table at Mama Street after he shot down and I had asked them I said you
know you guys can't ride your bike your bikes on the sidewalk and then they were arguing with me about it but then they were semi polite and they sat down and they had something to eat I asked them I said do you know that guy you know we saw him but we we don't know who he is >> and you're not gonna it's not going to
easy for the police to catch them. In the years before there were police on the street in Redbank when I first came here in the 70s and 80s, that's not a bad thing to have. It's it's probably a good thing. You probably need to have
cameras and I know there's an issue about having cameras, but in the overall you need to get control and there is no control over these. Now, another thing that bothered me significantly was when
I went through the news one morning, not too long ago and found out that Redbank had was on the front page of New York City newspapers. and they were on the front page because somebody who had uh who allegedly was an illegal alien who
allegedly had two DWI arrests and and locally I assume and allegedly had a a conviction or a a arrest for domestic violence. and he in Neptune killed two
people, illegal um immigrants, a mother, a daughter, and put the other daughter in critical care in the hospital. Now, that is not a good look for Redbank in my opinion. And I have a question. I want to know are are
the police handcuffed in in the sense of being able to get rid of criminals who are here illegally? Because these people would be alive today if we had gotten rid of this guy
after his second DWI. I mean, the third DWI from doing legal work. You go to Mammoth County Jail, I think, for six months or nine months. I forget. Council may know better what the what the uh penalty is for that. But um to have
someone like that running around and it's not the first time I've heard of things that are outrageous. I have a >> a gentleman who is a uh structural engineer and has a construction company >> over three minutes. I don't know where we're going.
>> We just uh so we just we have a timer we're trying to go just so we can keep it going. Just real quick that I believe the DUIs hadn't even gone to court yet. Just the courts are backed up. So and that's I believe statewide. There's a massive log jam on DWI. So I imagine you
know that wouldn't have happened if he had just gone to court. I mean, the two of them happen almost back to back, I believe. >> Okay. Well, that that's that's a real bad sign, >> right? >> And courts, it's statewide >> in in theory. And and if we're going to
be proactive, which we should be, and having done defense work for DWIs and been on both sides of it, I'll be the first guy to call in and tell somebody the guy's all over the road, get pull them over. And I'll al also and I have defended him. But if you got have
somebody where you have a high blood alcohol content, even though he hasn't been convicted yet and you know that he's here illegally and then he has a second one, >> I I understand what you're saying, but this is this is other than him living in Redbank, the
the the court assault goes through the county and the and the state. It's really >> and and if your question is about if there's a sanctuary law that is preventing ICE from coming into Redbank
and taking people because they committed a crime. There is no such law that does that. >> I'm glad to hear that. >> That Governor Murphy ever made. There is no law that any municipality ever made. There is nothing that has ever done that or prevented that. I need to just make
that abundantly clear for anybody in this audience. I think it is very important >> as we enter into a very heated election system and seasons >> for people to understand that there is no law that prevents ICE from going into
any town, regardless of if the town ever said that they were inclusive or welcoming to people. nothing that has ever prevented ICE from doing their jobs. >> So that is very important for people to understand. Do the Red Bank does the
Redbank Police Department, the chief and the gentlemen that are that are operating in in higher uh ranks in the in the police department realize or know that they have cart blanch to get in touch with ICE or to investigate people who are illegal who have a couple of
potential DWIs and and a domestic violence. I mean, >> I love educating people on this issue. I actually anybody who ever wants to talk about immigration or the immigrant community, this is something that is
very close to me and I love educating people on this. The answer is no. Redbank police do not communicate with ICE. That was a directive that started in 2018. It's called the immigrant trust directive. Reason being,
you need people in your community to call the police if something goes wrong. You need them to trust their local police department if something goes wrong and they need to trust their police. They need to be able to call their police if something happens. That
keeps your entire community safer. It does not prevent ICE or any of the now deputized federal agencies from performing whatever their duties now seem to be, but it makes it so that our police focus on what they joined the
force to do, which is to protect our communities and to focus on their jobs and to not be focusing on things that are not their jobs. So, like I said, if anybody would like to get educated about this issue or understand how enforcement
works, I'm available anytime. And we've discussed this many times. I we have known each other since 2014, since before I was in office. So, you know, I'm happy to talk with you about this anytime. Have a lot of people here and we should move.
>> I I understand you, but that doesn't help the people who are dead from this. >> And I Mr. Myers, just to just to please keep this meeting moving. You know, the Redbank Police Department, as Deputy Mayor Trigano said, follows the immigrant trust directive issued by the
attorney general of the state of New Jersey. I will let you research that as an attorney on your own time, but this conversation needs to move on at this point. >> All right, that may very well be a mistake. There it was a very good article written by Brian Donahghue about breathalyzers and
the problem with breathalyzers in Redbank Green that I learned so much from. I just thanked him before the meeting that there's been a backlog of um DUIs um because the breathalyzers in the state are not so there's like a really
big backup across the state. It was a really good article. >> Well, look at it. There are other factors that come into play and I've done some very serious accident work with body camera video and all you need to address an issue like this is body camera video.
>> You got to be pragmatic. I did I used to work for people who had had restaurants and bars when I was younger in college and we could tell who was was loaded and we would take care of the situation and no one ever got hurt. We should be doing
that in Redbank. I think the system that you're describing, Kate, is defective. >> Is effective. >> Yep. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments? Yes, sir. >> Hello everyone. My name is Ken Zel.
resident in Redbank since 2014 and I just want to comment on Lou's what Lou had to say earlier. Um I think we a lot of us agree in this room that broadwalk is a very is a great concept for this for the tap right but at the same times it presents a very unfair economic
advantage a disadvantage to the to the businesses outside that that area right and so I also suspect that you know if you look at your location analytics right it's they're down year-over-year right so if you think about it in essence you don't have you don't have a
that problem but you also have a problem getting people in the tab now all I would suggest is that as long As long as Broadwalk is open, we roll back parking till 6 p.m. >> I'll make everyone happy and we can move on from there. >> All right. Appreciate it. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Good to see you. So last >> on uh Drew Logan uh please >> just real quick comment on Broadwalk.
There's been a lot of negative comments uh regarding Broadwalk. I just want to put on the record was a defining factor for why my girlfriend and I moved here last year when we were visiting. We're like, you know, we we loved visiting Redbank, but would we like living here?
when we came to visit in the summer, the Broadwalk is one of the major reasons that sold it for us to before we had any apartment picked out or even started looking at them, we were like, "This is great. This gives us that community vibe
um that we were getting up in Manhattan and that we've gotten in other places that we've lived." Girlfriend was previously in Baltimore. A lot of a lot of similar vibes down there where they have areas closed down and people walking around. Um, and I I can appreciate that it I don't know the
statistics on whether or not it hurts the businesses not in Broadwalk, but just because something is elevating businesses in one area doesn't necessarily mean it's taking away from other ones. But it's my uh uneducated
opinion. >> Thanks. >> Thank you. Yes, >> there actually is data on it and it shows that Broadwalk has increased business in the entire burrow. >> Just to add, my name is State say your
name. 23 Wallace and to add to this gentleman's thing is me and my fiance moved to Red Bank because we want to be in a kind of a city feeling but not too noisy. And by
closing the boardwalk, we're getting all the traffic with the cars either going left on Starbucks or right on Wallace to like midnight, 1:00 a.m. And it does cause a lot of noise to wake us, especially where we live on the corner. So, uh, just to add a little bit a
remark. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Yes, in the back. If I stand or do I sit? >> You can stand as long as you put that mic on and we can hear you. >> I don't know. I appreciate you got to hit You got to hit on the mic right on
the base there. >> It's actually a >> silver button. >> Silver button turns >> big one. >> All right. Anyway, I appreciate being able to speak in front of all of you. I feel like I know some of you, some I don't. But what I do know about all of you State your name please. Sorry.
>> My name is John aka Johnny Pork Roll. A business on Aday Mama Street. I started at your farmers market 12 years ago and have gone on to somewhat statewide fame for some sandwich. So I established that I adore this town. It's meant a lot to
me. I will give you as a way of background. I grew up in Spring Lake which I hate saying because you think I'm some rich little prick from a rich town that votes Republican, but I'm not. I'm an open-minded guy. I've adored this town my entire life through high school.
I went to St. Rose Redbank has been part of my life for years. I remember parking on my aunts on Leroy Place to go to the sidewalk sale when that was a big to-do. So, I adore this town and I know every one of you adore this town, but this broadwalk thing is and it's got
to be stopped. It makes no sense. I can't tell you the amount of people, residents and business owners that come into my store and say as such. I invite every one of you come have a cup of coffee. I don't know if it's legally allowed if I can give it to you, but come sit in my store and listen. I can tell you people from the west side that
have grown up their whole life and gone to high school when it was over where the middle school is. My daughters just graduated Redbank Regional. What I'm trying to say is I love this town, but Broadwalk is no good. It's fugazi. The idea that you started that before the
kids got out of high school, suicide. Why would you do something like that when Redbank Catholic, Redbank region, got all these kids zipping around? Not to echo Bill Meyer, but you're right. You need to do an ordinance on these ebikes. Somebody's going to get taken out like what happened at TE. We're all sad about that. We don't want to see
anybody hurt in our town. The one thing that this town has that no other town in this whole damn state has, it's safe to walk around. You can push your baby, you can bring your dog, you can bring your kid. That's why we love this town. But you guys are making it too big too
quick. and shutting that street down. I'm on record on Redbank Green. You can check it out. When you did that during the pandemic, I said if it's good for Redbank, then I'm all for it. But it's not good for Redbank anymore. It hurts business. The turn rate in this town is ridiculous. River Center is a joke. And
I don't mean that to be mean. They served a purpose years ago. I remember them. Hey, we're doing brick sidewalks. We're doing new lights. We're doing a jazz and blues festival. They made Red Bank relevant. But the idea that the business owners in this town have to pay into River Center to pay a $120,000 a
year salary, pay an assistant $70,000. Where's the ROI? Where's the metric? Show me the value creation. And I'll say, "Hey, what the hell do I know?" All I got when I bitched about River 7 years ago was, "John, everybody loves it. Look at the survey." That's not vetted. It wasn't paid for. You didn't call local
residents, Hamilton Jewelers. I can't tell you the amount of business owners. They won't be here. They won't say anything because they don't want any trouble. What I'm saying is you need to rethink that thing because it's not right. I get doing it maybe once a month, make it a unique experience, but to shut that street down and destroy our
town. I'm going to steal a line from the Palestinian movement from the river to Broad Street. Redbank needs to be free. I'm serious. You have hurt the town with this and you continue to do it. And as a business owner and a guy that survived in 500 square feet, how I
don't know. I'm not a sit down $300 dinner guy. I'm a little 1012 guy. It's ridiculous what you're doing and you're hurting business. And if you hurt the downtown, you hurt Redneck. So that's all I got to say. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Appreciate it. Anyone else
have any questions or comments? Hello. >> This is already on. >> Already on. >> All right. My name is Katherine Jambalo. I'm the owner of Mont My name is Katherine Jambbo. I'm the owner of Montichello restaurant. I have been in
this town for 17 years. And I think this is the first time that I actually come out and speak about the town. I never had a reason until now. I never had felt this struggle in 16 years until now. And
I think the broadwalk is so unethical for the businesses that are not inside. I think for all of you, this is the first time that you see my face in town adding park enforcement, the b the broadwalk
and uh how aggressive is being the parking enforcement. My business is down at least 50% if not more which is critical and is it and is insane. Now I seen it with my own eyes. My
restaurant is located exactly in front of the loading zone not too long ago. I got a ticket at 9:30 at night time. Went inside. It's a loading zone. I left the hazard of my car on. It's supposed to be
a loading zone. Supposed to go in, out, was loading. When I came out, not even 8 minutes or 10 minutes. I can't calculate, but it was no more than 10 minutes. I already had a ticket. And this is not the first time. plenty of times get tickets. In the meantime,
they're walking. I'm just tapping on their shoulder. They have been kind enough to remove the ticket away. But this is crazy. I seen customers trying to drop off their elderly parents and the loading zone to walk to my
restaurant. I see parking enforcement shoeing them, move, move, move, move. Even my online business, which relies on drivers like Door Dash, um um the other companies, I forgot the names are not coming up. When they come into the
store, they're like, "Hurry up. I don't want to get a ticket. This is the worst time." Nobody wants to pick up the food on the restaurant because they are totally afraid of getting a ticket. They explain to me, "I make $10 on an order
and I get a ticket of $38." And it this is hurting not just my oh another thing that I just remember before the broughtwalk we used to have we have a reservation system that is
called open table now before the broughtwalk 70% of my business was coming from open table which is the reservation system and 30% of of of my business it was coming from walking people after the brw walk
closing I lost all of my walkings. Nobody's coming further up the town to come and check out different menus because everything and it's all about the broadwalk, music, uh marketing, everything is all focused down there and they forgot that we have we have all the
business in town. I think it's so unethical that we left out all of these businesses that we're suffering the worst time. So we appreciate if you guys can take in consideration that it's been I mean 16 years nobody have seen my face
and this is the first time because this is really really hurting all of us. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else have any questions or comments? Anyone online? Jim, >> there's one in the back. One in the
back. Oh yes, in the back. Oh, Mary. >> Good evening, council mayor. Um, my name is Marin Bennett. I am the executive director for the Redback River Center. And I do want to express that unfortunately there's a lot of factors
here. um business overall in the state has been down. There was recent an article in the Asbury Park Press that has expressed it that you know between the economy, people choosing not to go out. So there's multiple factors. I do
keep track of statistics on Broadwalk. Um we do do a planning all around our SID. Um, I know I've been doing a lot of programming for the Broadwalk, but they also document data that shows people go
there and then they walk around. So, unfortunately, I think that there's a false narrative and you have to look at all the different variables that are going on in here. I do want to commend Kate and also the council members for
meeting with us. Um, I don't think anyone's ever said this is the solution. As we move away from CO, we have to be adaptable and I feel that this council has been reasonable and listening to those changes and we will move forward
and try to make those recommendations. Thank you. >> Thank you. Other hand starting to go up. Yes. Billy. Billy. I was around
seized my name at the Red Bank Diner Broadwalk. I was against it from day one. Day one. I spoke about it four years ago, three years ago. Every year as soon as that opens down there on the weekends, my lunch is done.
I've t multiple pictures and I've shown them that I have zero tables in my dining room where all winter I have lines out the door talking about River Center. >> River Center's focusing on marketing on what? Broadwalk. You go on their page
right now and show me one thing, one thing that is about any other local business other than Broadwalk. They're supposed to be for all local businesses, not Broadwalk alone.
Broadwalk should go done. Open the streets up. Let us all work. You guys have created a monopoly in this town and we This is my worst year ever. I'm paying out of pocket to keep my
doors open. It is horrible. and saying it's just the economy. Okay. Why are they busy? Why are we not? Why are other towns busy and we're not?
Why is all the business focus in there? Why is River Center focused only in there? Shut it down. Open up the streets. Let us all work. Shut it down. Enough. It was good during
CO. Okay. Everybody did. Everybody was okay. Done. Let us all work. That's all I had to say. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anyone else have any questions or comments?
>> No. No one's on the line. Jim. >> Okay. I have a motion to close the floor for public comment. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor? >> Christina, you got anything? >> No report this evening. Um, just have to
say I am shocked that it is somehow already the middle of August. So, I'm just going to try to spend the rest of our summer taking in the theuh activities that we have remaining to us, including uh Indie Street Film Festival. >> Amen. >> Good stuff in our parks. So, hope
everyone else is enjoying too. >> Thank you, David. >> Yeah, you know, I I actually do want to say a couple weeks ago, I made a phone call to the manager. I made a call to uh Chief Razy as well to compliment these special officers we have this year. They are remarkable. The best group we've
ever had. I get to know them on a personal level and I get to watch them uh in action. I sit down at the hook and ladder frequently in the evening. Uh about three weeks ago, I watched them intercede to keep someone from getting behind the wheel drunk. I watch them
consistently going to people that are illegally parked and blocking the potential emergency vehicles and I just watch them doing a great job of speaking to children and residents and just keeping us safe. I don't know what else to say. What a great job they did this year. Um, and I think they're doing a
remarkable job and I will speak out for them because uh I I I have known every crop we've had each year and this is the best one. >> I agree. Yes. Besides that, um I need to take a moment and I regret that we didn't ask for a moment of silence at the beginning because we lost Chucky
King. >> And uh I'd like to ask before I say a couple words if everyone will just observe just a moment um of silence uh for our 50-year member Chucky King. And I'll share a couple words about him in a moment. Thank you. Chucky uh member of the fire
police. He's a member of the Union Hose Company, over 50 years of service. And when I say 50 years of service, some folks, they get their years. And you know, his last few years, Chucky had uh been in and out um a little bit sick here and there. And every time he came right back, fire, police on scene,
keeping us safe, working till the last moment. And uh he was just a great servant of this community, but just a remarkably kind human being as well. And I just uh I'll always think of him uh in my mind. um
just he always was a volunteer for the Santa Run and he always had on an elf's hat and he always made people smile and he was just a good guy and he was always out there to help keep this community safe and he uh deserves our uh respect and gratitude and tomorrow night at 7:00 there are firefighter services over at
the funeral home at Thompson Funeral Home and uh I'll be there to to pay to to pay my respects as I know a lot of folks will because it's a big hole uh in in a department in this community. So, thank you very much for uh offering that moment of silence, Mr. Mayor. Appreciate that.
>> Okay. >> Um, thank you. Originally, I didn't have any I didn't have much to report, but the complete streets and advisory committee is meeting tomorrow, and you know, we heard some concerns about
traffic, ebikes, as well as um parking for some of our, you know, for residents in town. So, that's something that is definitely going to be brought up and there will be a discussion about that. Um, like Christina, I agree, it's the end of summer. We do have a lot of
activities coming around. Indie Street Fest film festival starts I think the 18th and um I think the last jazz uh Westside Jazz is on this Sunday. So, please do get out and connect with the
activities in town. Thank you. >> Thank you, Ben. Um, of course I can't help but be, you know, affected by what I hear from some of the night. I mean, Bill is here now, but I'm a regular in this place. I've been to
Montello. Of course, I've been to your Italian restaurant. I think I've been to this gentleman's place as well. Thank you. And I and I, you know, I've had animated dialogue with some of you on the topic of Broadway. Now, I happen to be a fan
of Broadway. I'm a resident. I I own a small business, but I don't I'm not on the storefront. Um, you know, I'm downtown more. I enjoy our town more with it. I, you know, when I go to New York and I go to other towns
in Jersey and I go to Europe and I see closed streets, >> to me that makes those towns more appealing. In my father's city in the Netherlands, they closed off the whole downtown. >> Um, you know, I don't know. I mean, of
course, I don't know. I mean, you know, I I do listen to I've certainly listened to Billy a lot on this topic. You know, what what are factors? You know, you know, there's a lot of competition in the restaurant business. Prices are high, labor costs are high, people
aren't fair. It's a notoriously brutal business. I used to be in it on a small way. Um, you know, is it Broadwalk? I don't know. I mean, the economy certainly affected me. I go out less. I spend less money. I'm much more conscientious about going out to amazing
restaurants in town that I want to support because my income has not kept up with the cost of food eating out. Um, you know, I am listening and I, you know, I I think that and I've said this before, I think this has come up, you
know, other council meetings. You know, can, you know, things evolve? Can we do better? Probably always. um you know and I I'm you know of course moved by your passion and emotion and running a
business is is brutal and coming here I'm sure is not easy and you know I don't you know it's hard to hear it because I I happen to like the Broadway and you know it's funny I was talking to Louis outside sitting there and um you know he says well what about the little
thing that the town has and you know to me one of the things that Redbank has and I think another gentleman talked about this earlier is that broad which is you know amazing you know >> I'm that gentleman that said that and you're absolutely right >> and I like your place too I can't eat a
little less of that though >> I mean this that's the best asset of our town that river which nobody can see that's the best asset of our town I would be happy said public domain we're getting rid of that crap at the end of Broad Street you're going to see the river we're the only town that sits on a
river two and a half miles from the beach this town is money Great. Wonderful. But let's not destroy it. That broadwalk. I love Hobok and I love New York, >> Johnny. We got to cut it. It's not public comment. >> We got to cut it. Come on. But it's ridiculous. >> Unless he wants to come up to the
microphone. We can reopen public comment if you want. >> I'm just saying. >> You want to reopen? I want to reopen it. >> This damn town. And I know you all do, but that thing's not good. And the economy does stink, but it's not an excuse. >> We can reopen it. >> Restaurant like, "Oh, you guys are
hurting me. I have a motion to reopen the public comment. Second. >> All in favor? >> The problem is if you're talking back there, there's people that are listening online and no one can hear you. So, >> yeah, we have to open
every one of you. I I I adore this town. I adore it. And I just think it hurts and it is tough sledding. Eggs. Pork roll. $73 a case. When I started 12 years ago, it was $28. We all know what eggs went through. Bread went up. Not your fault. I'm not blaming anybody. It
is what it is. But when my town works counter to me, takes away parking spots, says 8 to 10 days for the curb bump out 7 months later, you hurt me all last quarter of last year into the first quarter of this year. Then that gets done. Oh, the town goes, "Oh, we're going to do all the other sidewalks and
curbs." M on like ready to put a bullet in my head. I can't win with this town. And then you shut down. The guy from Leonardo, and I don't mean to quote him, his line was, "I know people that don't come into Redbank because of Broadwalk, but I know a lot of people who won't come into Redbank because of Broadwalk.
You've changed the traffic pattern. We're creatures of habit. We go where we go to get our coffee, do what we do, buy our lottery tickets." The minute you reroute us, it's like, "Oh my god, oh my god, what do I do? I can't make a left. I got to make a right." You go behind Garmin, it's like a freaking blood fest
trying to get down street with the hospital workers in the morning trying to get there because they can't get down broad street. It just doesn't make sense. I thought the whole point of those retractable things was, hey, we don't have to pay DPW to put the cement blocks, which I'm glad you do that. We all know terrible things have happened
in open spaces. I don't want that ever to happen here, and I know you don't either. But they can't even do that. Those things don't even work, I've been told. So, you spend all that money on those retractable things. It still takes a day for DVW to put them up and down. Why can we be like, "Hey, Friday night 5:00, the street gets closed down till
Sunday at 5:00." love it. But this idea of, "Hey, from like middle of May till October, we're closing the street down." Makes no sense. Even the EMS guys who probably argue, "We can't get to buildings, we can't get to the hospital because of what you've done." It doesn't make sense. That's all we're
saying. And I'm not Your points are not on deaf ears. I love Europe. I love open spaces. I love that about this town, but it doesn't make sense. And that's why these people are here. I wish there were more of us, but they don't show up. So, I'll say it again. Come have a cup of coffee in my store one day. Just sit
there for an hour. Trust me, your constituents will come in and tell you how they really feel because your job is to listen and react, right? You run the town. It's a great town. Let's keep it great. That's all I'm saying. That's it. Anybody else
>> have any more public comment while it's open? >> Yes. >> Can't wait to enter this fray. My name is Tim Mclo and we own the Robinson A House in town. I know that from what I can tell the audience is
dead set against Broadwalk. I have some facts which I think matter and I I absolutely understand if people are outside of Broadwalk that there could be, you know, a feeling that we get an advantage that other people don't. I don't know. The first year we did
Broadwalk, our business went up $300,000 and that was the difference of life or death for us and it was fantastic. Last year, um, we were up about the same, almost exactly the same. This year, we're down, but we're down. I I
apologize for this part. Um, I have 10 restaurants, which makes me an unsympathetic character. Of the 10 restaurants, eight of them are down for the year, including Redback. Um, our one up in West Orange is up like
2%. We have a brand new one in Asbury, and of course, it's brand new, so it's going great. But the rest of it we are down anywhere from 5% to 12% on the year. And it is primarily because of the weather. The weather was horrible. We
had 11 straight weekends where we lost at least one of Friday, Saturday, Sunday, if not all of them. It's really, you know, I I hate it when we get contentious about things we have nothing no control over. We have no control over the weather. And not only was it bad
out, but it was cold for a good period of that time. And we came off, the weather seemed to start changing in early December. It got bad. So, we were down for the year anyway. So, here we go. We're going to do Broadwalk and we're going to get that money back. No, we didn't because the weather was
terrible. I think could there be adjustments made to Broadwalk? Absolutely. Maybe it should start later. Maybe it should end sooner. I could understand that. I mean, we all want the the prime times, but we have found out if we live around here, which I have for
I don't even like to think about it. Um, we know what the weather can be like in September and even October sometime. Sometimes it's the best weather of the year, but I understand if people want to narrow this thing down. And you're just going to have to take my word for this part because it would just sound like
I'm making something up. But just yesterday, I was speaking to our host outside right here at Robinson's and she said, "You know what's funny? I'm meeting people from all over the place." That almost stands for itself. She's
meeting people from other states and other areas of this state. And she said, "That's my fun part of the job. I meet people from all over the place." That was theoretically the idea of broadwalk. It wasn't to hurt other people. And I would also suggest to everybody who's
hellbent to get rid of it, I would like to know you're going to help me replace that $300,000. How you going to do that? What positive program are you bringing to this? Or is it let's let's just get rid of this thing because it's too much of a headache. And I understand that particularly the people like a mechanic
or whatever, it's a pain in the ass. It is. There's no question about it. But what do we all do? Do we just do nothing and say, you know, this thing seemed to work for Tim, but maybe nobody else is happy. You know, like I said, I don't expect
anybody to feel sorry for us. I really don't. And I understand the complaints, but it was a breakthrough for us where we were just >> another place that was plus or minus at the end of a year. And it turned us from a plus or minus into a big plus. We've
been very successful there. And I'm appreciative and we love this town. I mean, I remember my dad moved here late in life and he said, "I wished I'd lived here all my life." He just liked it. He liked it walking around. And we're not trying to change any of that. We just thought it was a great idea and we've
been the beneficiaries. >> Thanks. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else? >> Sure. >> Yeah. And then we'll close public comment once people are done. >> Ben has to give us >> Oh, you just turned it off. Oh, go
ahead. Put it again. >> We all respect and honor Tim McCloon, 10 restaurants, one of the best locations in Red Bank, but he he makes it very clear at the end of the day, we just want a level playing field. If he's up
300K, he's taking it from somewhere. Say there's whatever millions of dollars pouring into Redbank every week, say it's a million dollars or $500,000 realistically. because it is a set amount of money.
It's not infinite. If they're getting the bigger percentage of that those dollars, >> less is going to outside the perimeter. All we're asking for is a level playing field. Having the broadwalk does not allow a level playing field. He just said it himself. He's up 300K while
we're down whatever percentage that is. It just does not make sense that in what world does the Broadwalk is, how does that make it fair for the perimeter of the restaurants? And again, we know the restaurant business is down nationally and regionally. It's just that we're
feeling it even more so because of the broad sticking the oxygen out of the room, per se. It's as simple as that. We're just want a level playing field. It's not level. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> I'm going to make a motion to close public comment again.
>> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I want to finish my I mean, I moved because I wanted I moved to Red Bank because I want to be in a thriving town. And by the way, I
remember when I was here in 96 how dead the downtown was in July and August. I mean, dead. Now, you know, I careful what you wish for, you might get it. I don't know that closing the Broadwalk is going to make anything better. Maybe we're just going
to have less people in town spending anywhere. Who knows? I mean, we don't know. You can't say with an absolute certainty that this is some magic bullet and that there aren't other factors. Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Um, anyway, I think I've I've made my point.
I thank you for running those businesses, making Red Bank great. Um, and I am a fan of having a downtown. That's why Amy and I live here and it makes Redbank great. >> I think I'm done. >> Do you have a parks and wreck report?
>> Oh, parks and recck report. Well, we do have rock and roll concert tomorrow night. I'm the park and rec leaison. And we do have, by the way, end of summer sports pants coming signing up. So, please sign up for that. Um, and
that concludes my report, Mr. Mayor. >> Thanks. >> Thank you, Van. Laura, >> I want to >> Okay. Um, I just want to say that I had my retirement party from Mammoth University in Nepal in the back room. You have very good food. I like that
restaurant. Um, I I even bring my own liquor when because you don't have a liquor license. >> But, uh, you have very good eggplant rollini. Homemade. I know. Thank you. Being Italian, I really like it. And I saw you once out where were we in Mexico coming
off a plane at the same time. Right. Okay. Um lots of things to talk about the library uh report. We didn't have we're not having a meeting in the summer. Our next meeting is in September. Um let me find the date here. Hang on. September 18th summer reading
wrap-up party is this Saturday at 11:00 a.m. Uh volunteer appreciation meeting is Monday at 6. Um, so it honors all the people that volunteer at the library. Um, I'm going to be working there. I was actually asked to pour the wine because Steve always has to pour the wine and he
can't mingle with anyone. So, um, that's what's going on with the library. Um, I guess the big thing with the library, it went through zoning, I guess, right, Tim? That they're going to be able to put a lighted um, >> No, not yet. Sorry.
>> I went to uh, yeah, it went to planning. >> Planning. It's going to planning. So, they're going to put a um marking in front of the library >> planning recommended it as a yes. >> Okay, great. Thank you. So, they were excited about that, too. Um so, that was library animal welfare met
the other night. We're going to have dog days in September. So, we're working really hard on that. We have yappy hour coming up. Um so, that's another exciting thing that's happening. And what else are we doing in there?
So, we've been working on a lot of those things. Today, um we had downtown Living Healthy Block Party. It was on Mama Street um between Shrewsbury and >> Bridge >> Bridge and it was put up by the uh
community BNA Health Center. It was rescheduled very quickly because they were putting new sidewalks in front of the BNA. So, they had to change the date quickly. And we still had a very nice turnout today. They had a DJ there. They had um
free um Mexican food. They had music. They had community resources. Lots of people showed up. Uh Parker Clinic. It was run by the uh VNA of Central Jersey. Um Wellpoint was there. Hackinac Meridian Horizon Etna. Um a lot of
people came and I think it was very well intended for being rescheduled very quickly. By the way, BNA is very happy. They have new sidewalks on the side of Mama Street. >> Yeah. >> Um so that was great. Tonight we had, you know, um liaison to the mayor's
wellness committee at our in-person meeting. We meet um four of us meet in executive session every Wednesday like a meeting on Zoom. But we have so much stuff planned. So tonight we had a meeting here so that we could have a lot of our stakeholders here. Almost all of
them showed up. We're going to be um this This Saturday we're having um at Johnny Jazz Park, Lunch Breakak is having their big picnic where they'll be giving out knapsacks and giving out sneakers and I
guess they're going to have a softball game that I think the mayor wants to get his team in, but they're having lots and lots of stuff. So, it's starts at 9 this Saturday. >> Um we're having a turkey giveaway on November 22nd um at St. Anony's Church.
We'll be giving out a 20 turkeys and we are also going to give out bags with um dried non-p perishables for people for Thanksgiving. Um so lots of good stuff that's going to be there. We have last year we had people giving out vaccines
from the health department and from Parker Clinic. So we're excited about that. We're going to have a nutrition presentation coming up by JP Soul Kitchen. Um let let's beat breast cancer. the mayor can talk to that that we're having
on September 20th at Riverside Park. Um we talked about New Jersey Senior Olympics and um lots of other events as part of the mayor wellness committee. Thank you. That's for me >> Pete. >> Thank you mayor.
Um before I go into my report uh I will just comment briefly as a river center leazison. Um Lou, as you know, I have been present at the river center meetings and we were in discussion about some ideas that could bring equity into
the other areas. So I hope that we can continue to have those conversations and anybody else who hasn't been attending those meetings, please, you know, come and and be a part of those conversations. Um I believe it would be fruitful and helpful. um also for Marin
to be able to share the data um which shows the amount of people that are coming into the town that were not coming in before. Um and that really cannot be stressed enough. Um more people helps the economy. People coming here helps the economy and we have to be
very careful to not operate under a scarcity mindset. Um people boost your economy. People coming here is a good thing and people moving here. um because they see something as an asset. Um I've met three people in the last two weeks
that told me they moved here specifically because of the broadwalk. >> Um so we just want to tell you as elected that's that's the things that we're balancing when we're receiving that feedback and also the business owners that are telling us that they value the broadwalk. the business owners that are moving their businesses into
the Broadwalk because they value the Broadwalk, the new businesses that are opening in the Broadwalk and chose that area because the Broadwalk exists. Um, so I look forward to continuing that conversation. Um, but I just wanted to say, you know, I have been present at
those River Center meetings and I believe that we were having very good dialogue. So I hope that we can continue that and that everybody can keep discussing All right, mark your calendar for an epic new event. River Center is excited to team with Jane Son of Bob's Secret Stash
for the first ever Redbank Pop Culture Festival on Saturday, September 13th from 12:00 to 4 p.m. Raid date September 14th. The festival will celebrate movies, comics, gaming, anime, and much more. Indie Street Film Festival is next week. Um, actually starting Monday. Um,
I've been honored to serve on the advisory board of that film festival. We're now celebrating 10 years of it. It is one of the best program film festivals in the country. We are extremely fortunate to host an international film festival here in our town. If you can make it any of those
nights through the 18th through the 24th, it is a wonderful time. On Mechanic Street tomorrow, you're invited to a pretty sweet grand opening celebration. This is a joint celebration for Pretty Charming
Hat Bar and Event Decor, which is on Mechanic Street, as well as Jersey Cookie Door, Jersey Cookie Girl, which is also located on Mechanic Street. They're doing a joint ribbon cutting ceremony at 11:00 a.m. And then they're doing an afterparty from 2:00 p.m. to
5:00 p.m. Um, they have so many special things planned um during this celebration. They're doing freebies, they're doing music, I think they're doing line dancing lessons. Um, line dancing is super popular. Who would have thought? There's a lot of line dancing going on in this town. Um, so go and
support these two new businesses that chose to open on Mechanic Street and um, you know, show them some love. Um, let's see, what else do we got? Vote for the Molly Pitcher and the Oyster Point.
Um, they are in three categories. They've been nominated for best hotel and the Aspberry Park Prize, best of the best. So, you can support them there. There's kids karate on Broadwalk every Tuesday from 10:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. free karate classes on the green turf area in front of Chocolate Works. Um
there's a free show at Jack's Music Shop on Sunday. Um it's prettier now. They're doing an instore performance at 3 p.m. It's free in all ages. Street life is every Saturday night. And uh that's the face of my report. Thank you, Mayor. >> Thank you.
Um yeah, looking forward to a bunch of great events happening in Redbank. that you guys >> covered. Um, you just one thought on the on the Broadwalk. Um, I'm obviously not in favor of shutting the Broadwalk down. I apologize, Billy. Um, but I am in favor
of treating it as a a living evolving thing. So, you know, I took notes on some of the things like maybe it's 6 p.m. parking um while the Broadwalk is there. Um, we can certainly talk on parking enforcement to um be a little more flexible. So, um I I'd love to
speak with with any of the businesses on an idea that's drawing attention to them. Uh whatever that looks like, whether it's a a vehicle parked um on the street in front of one of the shops that's calling attention or, you know, a horse and buggy running around the street, whatever it is that we can bring
attention to, I'm open to the idea and I'm sure Marin is as well. Um I think on balanced Broadwalk is a positive thing for this town. Again, it's bringing a lot of people here. um that were not coming otherwise, especially in the summer months. Without a draw, most
people probably are going to the beach. Um and that was the kind of the uh impetus of the Broadwalk to begin with. Um but that's all I got. I always appreciate hearing from everybody and coming here. Um it's important to uh be
in dialogue. That's the only way things improve. So, thank you all for for being here and let me know. um sometimes quite forcefully your opinion on this issue. Thank you, Jim. Manager's report. >> Very quick time. Mayor, um just want to
let everybody know the 2025 road program is underway along with our lead service line replacement program that's continuing with Underground Utilities as the contractor. Uh tonight, we awarded by resolution the Marine Park uh
project. I'm happy to say that bid came in last Wednesday, a little bit under what was anticipated. So, in that bid, we actually put that they had 14 days from the date that we execute the contract, which we'll look to execute the contract hopefully next week. They
have 14 days to mobilize and start that project. So, we'll be moving quickly into Marine Park so we can have some uh good progress before the cold months ahead. Um, also DPU, happy to see that that ordinance was passed tonight as
well. So, we continue along with that project. And I did just want to update on the results from uh the final report of the quick build mini grant project that we did at River and Leighton. Uh, as you know that that had some some
coverage and some discussion earlier in the year with potentially a four-way stop. Obviously, traffic data uh shows that four-way stops are not um safe for or prescribed method for slowing traffic
down and that other ways of doing it are to be used. So, we we went with the uh the tactical urban the urban tactical urban urban >> tactical urban through the quick builds mini grant. Um, and we also deployed
then after the project the speed counters and traffic counters on in the same area that we did back in March of 2024. So in March of 2024, there was a total vehicle volume of 16,71 vehicles that crossed through uh that
intersection there. In July of 2025, after post installation of the the painting and the um pinching of the road with the ballers, we saw 22,827 vehicles. Now, granted, the traffic counter was out for a couple days more.
>> Um but what was important is that we gathered more data in July as well. uh in the 85th percentile of speed in 2024, we saw the 85th percentile was 27 miles per hour, which was still not necessarily an enforcable speed or low
on the enforcable scale. However, in July of 2025, the traffic counter showed 25 miles per hour, which is exactly the speed limit on uh at River Leighton. um the 85th percentile and that was the combined lanes uh because it does
southbound northbound traffic. What was interesting is that the southbound traffic in 2024 showed 28 miles per hour, one one mile per hour more, but in July of 2025, it was actually 24 miles per hour. So, it's actually lower than the speed limit at the 85th percentile.
Um and then the peak speed volume range in 2024 was between 21 miles per hour and 26 miles per hour. and in July of 25 is between 21 and 23 miles per hour. So under the speed limit, I think that the project absolutely
um you know held its weight in what we were trying to do. People are slowing down and if that was exactly what the goal is of the burrow and I know the residents in that area and the people has brought it to our attention and I think it's working. [Music] >> Thank you.
>> Mayor, could I make one more comment? Sure. I wanted to publicly thank the police department who stayed the whole time that Mama Street was closed today. They helped me, me and Nancy, take down the tent, put in our car, we drove it over to DPU. I want to thank the DPU for
their work. It was really hot when we got there. All the other a lot of tables had tents and then we got a tent so it was a lot cooler standing there. So, I just publicly wanted to thank those two departments. Thank you. >> Thank you. Exact session. Do we have
Jim? No. Right. Can I have a motion to adjurnn? >> So moved. >> Have a second. >> I'll second it. >> All in favor?