all right good evening everyone uh thank you for joining us for the February 19th um conservation commission meeting at this time anyone who wishes to please rise and salute the flag pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all thank you all right so we have Brian ack
here Joseph lavali here Wilson Carrera here uh Thomas Carlton will not be with us uh Amelia V will also not be joining us this evening and uh Bernardo will also not be joining this evening I'm not
really sure on our new commissioner if she has been sworn in so we'll tackle that as we get to it um but thank you all for coming this evening uh first up is review and approval of last time's minutes meeting minutes I'll make a
motion to approve any changes first or additions no motion to approve second all in favor I I excellent okay uh first up is a request for a certificate of compliance 810
Washington Avenue D file number 061 0793 uh this is the STA and Company um project over on Washington Avenue and do we have uh representative
with us via Zoom or are is it in person yes Daniel of the project excellent how you doing this evening doing great thanks all right um if you wouldn't mind
taking away well um I was told that we weren't uh we did not need to be at the meeting this evening so I don't have anything prepared um but happy to answer any questions the project is um is nearing
completion should be complete uh within the next several days um and uh expected to open for occupancy on March 1st and we're really excited about the 30 apartments that um we're going to be providing uh to the re housing stock uh
imminently so if there is anything specific um you'd like me to address or you'd like to ask I'm happy to answer it uh I did have an opportunity to walk this site down and it's the site is stabilized the
there is no finished work that needs to be done all the flashing and everything abing the building adjacent is all buttoned up the storm water management system is in place uh Wilson and I were there to uh see this and for the most
part it is just a little bit of finished work left for this and if any of the other Commissioners have any questions about this um please feel free no I I I agree with you I was there
as well and I think the storm man storm water management looked fine I think just like you said a couple of things just to wrap it up and yeah but I think well overall I think it looks good almost complete agreed agreed it uh it
is definitely a very large building uh but it is definitely with within the wetlands protection act and it is definitely compliant with it as well um at this time I'd like to open it up to any members in the audience if they
have anything that they wish to say about this project specifically nope hearing nothing um I would call for a motion to approve the uh certificate of compliance I would
just make one uh point of order to the chair um just to give an extra second for people on Zoom to if there's anybody that has anything to say thank you for the reminder I appreciate that um I'll make a motion to uh approve the certificate of
compliance can I get a second second there all in favor I I I I thank you very much and uh we'll we'll have signed papers for you um with this at the at
the office for you guys to pick up thank you very much for joining us there over okay next up is a notice of intent a d file 061 0835 this is the city of
Rivier and this is for the Rivier High School uh 190 VFW Parkway excellent joed oh excellent I appreciate that uh and also in attendance with us is commissioner Amilia
viske open up the hearing for this yes as soon as the camera gets it we'll be able to see it on our monitors thank you I know it's all okay I'm live for the record CLA hogaboom Wetland scientist with LC environmental
Consultants I'm representing the applicant for this notice of intent um joining me in person is uh Christy Lions she's with kigle construction they're the uh construction manager for the project uh via Zoom we have a few folks from the team as well if there are any
direct questions after I get through the presentation uh we have Brian daon with leftfield he's the owner project manager uh Laura Garvey with sanbor head she's the uh license site professional working with uh the contaminants that I'll speak
to uh and we have David Conway with Niche engineering the civil engineer on the project so this notice of intent I know the commission's been long awaiting uh learning more about the Rivier high school project at the Wonderland site um
this is for site preparation activities so it's not necessarily for construction of the entire school at this point it's really just phase one um preparing the site for that um next phase of construction so uh to start the project
off uh the contractor would be enclosing the Eastern portion of the site with um construction fencing chain link fencing that's about 6 to 8 ft tall I believe and um that's shown here in pink
surrounding that portion of the site it's all in the paved portions of the site uh and as you see here uh that sort of western boundary of the limit of work runs right along the 200t riverfront area that extends from the Eastern
County ditch so there's not going to be any work within Riverfront area as a part of this uh phase one along the construction fencing will be erosion and sedimentation controls uh we had a site visit with a few of the commission members on February 1st and
uh commission member requested that we provide a little more detail on the plan set of specific erosion and sedimentation controls uh installed around the limit of work so along the 200t river front area we're going to have a super silt fence which is just
silt fence um affixed to the fence uh the uh construction fencing and that'll be paired with um mulch Waddles as well and then those mulch Waddles will just continue around the entire remainder of the uh limit of work
um and when I say limit of work here that's really encompassing where the fencing is however the limit of disturbance is not going to occur within that tire footprint as you can see here in the gray hatchwork uh that is the proposed pavement and Remnant
foundations that'll be removed uh as part of this port uh part of the project it's about 4.4 acres worth of impervious area to be removed um the contractor will also be removing a sort of paved walkway within
the interior of the former dog Racetrack and the commission might recall that um that is an isolated Wetland uh protectable under your ordinance so we have about 2,200 square ft of work occurring there to remove that concrete
walkway um outlined here in Orange uh will be some vegetation removal a lot of debris and trashes in that portion of the site as well um so that portion of vegetation down there will be removed as well
um the project also involves removal of some decommissioned utilities um abandoned structures and just things that are either currently disconnected not usable um throughout the site so for
for the most part that's outlined or highlighted um in more bold uh coloring but it'll really be to the discretion of the contractor after what they take offline and what they decommit or what they um remove during this phase of the
project um overall we want to keep the limit of disturbance at or below 9.9 Acres so in addition to that 4.4 Acres we have about 5.5 Acres of usable land that the contractor will work within and
they will keep a detailed log weekly of any land disturbance to ensure that they don't exceed that 9.9 acres of land disturbance um a big portion of that um reasoning is coming to leaving a lot of the pavement that in that Northern portion of the site here um just in an
effort to reduce the amount of land disturbance and potential um destabilization of the site at this phase uh overall as I noted earlier 2,200 ft of impacts to the isolated Wetland we have
about 42,000 F feet of impacts to bordering land subject to flooding and up to 9.9 Acres of impacts to land subject to Coastal storm Flowage as the site is entirely located within the flood
plane uh I believe in addition to providing the revised plans to the commission after the site walk we also provided a one-page letter prepared by Niche that really briefly outlined and clearly summarized the storm water measures that would be implemented
during construction ction to protect resource areas and abing properties during this work uh will also require a um nip permit uh which would require a storm water pollution prevention plan or a Swip and that would be um outlining
all the storm water measures to be implemented during construction so we'll provide that to the commission uh prior to the start of any work the final piece uh is highlighted here in yellow that is the area of lead contamination that was
identified on the site and that's within the former um footprint of the clubhouse associated with the racetrack so that's where sandborn head has been doing a lot of uh research and
uh examining the site and the extent of that lead contamination they will be preparing a uh RAM plan uh which will ultimately outline the exact uh remediation measures to uh excavate and
remove that contaminated soil from the site so that's going to uh be a part of this sort of phase one part of the project and any documentation they provide and prepare to do that uh we will provide to the commission for your records as well appreciate that yeah so
with that I think that covered it for me excellent um I see that a portion of the storm water management system is underneath the removal the concrete area that you will be removing uh what kind
of efforts will you be taking to ensure that debris Rubble construction uh won't be ending up into the storm water management system that you currently have there and also follow up to that what kind of condition have
you done an analysis on the current storm water management system to see it's if it is online in use functional um what where we at with that yeah that's a good question I think with respect to what's under the foundation
for the most part um it's really drainage that's somewhat minimally connected to other uh pieces of infrastructure within the site but the contractor would absolutely ensure that you know wherever they cut it off to pull out
infrastructure sort of Upstream if you will um there would be sort of that disconnect or like a plug of the storm water system so anything they removed wouldn't continue discharging Downstream
um to the second Point as far as the um status of any of the existing infrastructure to my knowledge it's not in great shape um has not been maintained for many years um I believe Dave Conway is
on virtually I don't know if he's raising his hand potentially he might be able to touch a bit more on what um from an engineering standpoint they I I I can speak to it a little bit
thank you D the um the the storm water system there as Claire said has not been maintained there is no real like any quality components um of the existing storm water system um there's nothing that quality it's
simply some catch basins that then Outlet into the Eastern County ditch during construction we're going to ask the contractor to clean this clean this the existing structures that are going to remain through this phase they'll all be protected with silt sacks maybe some filter mths around them to basically
reduce any potential for anything to get into them um but there's there's not really much of a functioning storm water system out there now dare I say that probably hasn't been pumped out in 20 years at
least excuse me excuse me so if you do find stor Mar managements are a part of the system that is functional and is Flowing I would definitely want to make sure that we have silt socks and all sorts of you
know the in the Basin themselves absolutely as well as adding that to the inspectional process and the weekly inspectional process that you will have on site absolutely the final detail sheet of this plan does have catch Bas
and Inlet protection details on it um so that's definitely included in the plan set itself and it'll be included in the Swip and the storm water management uh during construction documents sounds good um I don't have any other questions if any of the other Commissioners have
questions um I had just a quick question in regards to traffic will this is this all being contained inside of the the land the lot that's being done will there be anything involved with traffic that will affect anybody that is a great question um so the site access will be
provided off of Butler Circle right there um that's where the existing entrance is uh and the the gate will be set back I believe at least 10 ft okay so it'll be at least 30 ft off
of that ENT entrance so if any cars are coming in they'll have some space to pull in without actually stopping at Butler Circle um but with regards to to safety of folks coming in and folks getting around while contractors are coming in and out um VHB is also a part
of the project team they're the traffic engineer they've been working with Mast do um District 4 Boston um on we'll have to get a temporary construction access permit through them uh for this phase of the uh work as well so they'll be
working closely with mot to ensure that any safety measures are implemented as well and one question that whenever this project gets brought up and I get asked all the time as a commissioner on this is whether or not the um people that have been living in that area have been
removed as of today if it's a the site is clear basically um to my knowledge uh it is an ongoing effort from the riv Police Department to be assisting with that effort um it's something that is a big part of why we wanted to take the
vegetation out in that southern portion of the site and enclose the entire site with s uh with construction fencing just in an effort to protect everybody's Public Safety during this process um so that's something that the project team is keeping in mind and continuing to
coordinate with the city to make sure that those folks are um off the site before any of this work starts I I think that's perfect for as far as for the safety of everyone around as well as for even safety of the site being able to have it as difficult as humanly possible
for someone that isn't supposed to be there to be there I think is the best for the city of river and for everyone involved yeah thank you yeah any other questions uh when it comes to the rosion control and the
sediment uh sedimentation control the process to keep making sure during the construction that what I seen in the past is with construction it gets move or or because this is going to take many years is going to be M maintained is that is that
a plan for that or yes absolutely that's absolutely a part of the um I believe it's even in the storm water plan that we provided in the noce 7 tent application but that Swip that I mentioned earlier uh that'll be a a federal permit with the
EPA and that will require the contractor to do weekly inspections and maintenance immediately usually it's something like within 24 hours they would have to maintain or repair anything and regular reporting as well so they would have
reports on site documenting all of these inspections and there's usually going to be another inspection uh that would occur after typically a 1 qu inch rain event or more um so there will absolutely be measures in place for the
contractor to to constantly uh Monitor and maintain and the same for the cars coming in and out just to make sure the pathway it has the proper erosion control for the we don't want like that dirt to be on the street or vice versa I
know the probably will do it once but it will require continuous maintenance just to make sure to we keep that the safe mhm yeah and at that entrance from Butler Circle there's going to be um a crushed stone placed down it's going to be the construction entrance there and
that'll be up to the contractor to maintain that and sweep it um do we know how often they're going to keep the crash Stone is going to be added after like because over time with the amount of cards going in and out it's going to uh SN so we just how is the plan for maintenance of that um I believe it
would just be in accordance with the Swip or within uh in accordance with the documents to maintain that I would say we're going to monitor it and then as needed to if you wouldn't mind it's going to be as as needed so we we'll monitor it just like we will um
all other Mees on site and and maintain it okay great because as as with the the summer depending on the season the dust is going to be there and also the contamination from the dirt coming in and out so we just want to make sure we we take care of that if you
don't thank you uh go ahead I'll I'll just say that you know obviously dust control during the construction while the raw ground is open is obviously it's a concern to all of us on that so if you do have ways of mediating that that's definitely something that we'd love to hear more
about sure I can speak to that we will have dust control throughout the entire project part of the thought process for us is why we're leaving majority of the site paved is for that very reason to help control dust in that early phase um
so we will have water trucks on site as needed to help control dirt and dust we'll also employ Wheel Wash stations at the construction entrances to help control that um in addition to the the construction entrances with the gravel base and
whatnot thank you I would also be curious to know how long after deconstruction after you remove the concrete the leg contamination how long will it be on site and what you're plan to remove um what's what are timetables
to remove it off the site sure I might act ask that um Laura Garvey be unmuted for that she's the lead on that part of the project and knows it way better than me uh good evening can you hear me okay
yes we can Laur great so we would um precharacterized the soil prior to excavation in that area so that it can be um ideally it would be dug and Hall the same day if needed we will stockpile
on site and and do the best to keep it off site as quick as we can i' say at the extended range it's likely going to be a month or two that would be on site but ideally it's going to be loaded and trucked off the same day it's excavated I would anticipate the the
lead contamination that you are remediating would be removed immediately I I'm sure you wouldn't want to have that on site for two months AG greated if it is on site it would be covered with poly sheeting that would be weighted down to prevent uh any movement
of that soil or um dust to be generated from that stock pile MH also when we get inclement weather I'm not exactly sure what your timetable is to begin the demolition of this site but we get some pretty rainy spring and and I would want
to make sure that that would not be on site for too long what and to follow up to that what part what phase of the demolition would the abatement of the lead B in this part
of the in this phase of the project do do you mean at the beginning middle or end yes I I'd be curious if you're going to take care of it right away or if you were going to when would you be doing that dur I'm not I'm not entirely sure we know exactly when we're going to be doing it our plan is to
mobilize for this scope of work in June um and our plan is to run June July and complete the scope of work by August by the end of August Okay so happen during the summer months okay A little drer then thank
you any other questions cheer I would just kind of piggy back off of what you said it it kind of reminded me of for those people who live in the area uh The russos Tuxedo site that you know burned down to the ground and they had uh it was asbestos and they have still the
asbestos around it they left that plot of land with apparently aestus dirt covered barely horribly done for I don't know four months at this point five they just left it and they didn't care and I know that isn't a completely different site from you guys it's just fresh in
the mind of people who live in the area driving by it every single day that you see the big aestus stff so when you have the lead side of it it just kind of brings to mind of how long and how well done that'll be we just want that to be kind of in your minds that you know the
the air from the from the ocean it whips to that area um I live right on the ocean I feel it and even in that area it still goes there so um any of that stuff that can be nod in the ears for as little time as possible just so it's not stuck for months like that that would be
uh appreciated for everybody involved thank you all right any other questions okay uh at this time I'd like to open it up to the public um if
anybody in the audience or via Zoom has uh anything to say in opposition to this project or against or or for the project
um please come forward okay um hearing none uh motion to close out the hearing I'll make a motion to close the hearing second all in favor I okay hi
hearing is closed um and you guys have a very robust plan to mitigate the majority of this and the timetable seems as though that the material is not going to stay on site
very long and I would definitely want you to make sure that you provide all the documents to us prior to construction and the before our pre-construction meeting um but thank you very much for your time um at this time
um I would like to call for a motion to approve the notice of intent for this project I'll make a motion to approve the noi for this project second all in favor I I I thank you very much thanks
so much appreciate your time all right moving right along um I'm not sure if Amelia can hear me but when you have a chance uh Amelia could you make sure
that you get to the office to to uh sign the uh forms here as well thank you all right next up is a notice of attent D file number 061
0836 this is the also the city of R route 1A southbound infrastructure improvements this is the roundabout at Gibson Park and access road proposed construction for a roundabout to promote and improve access to Route One and Gibson
Park so open the hearing good evening everybody I'm Julie dear with the Department of planning and Community Development and I am the lead project manager for the city uh myself along with my co with my director direct boss Tom zarowski we've been overseeing this
part of the project for the riverfront master plan tonight I'm joined with um Chon Wong from Hoin Hudson um he is here in present present with us and then Peter robowski is actually joined us through zoom and then I am also here
with our Environmental Specialist Devin herck um and they're both going to be helping present this information tonight um so tonight we are looking for approval of our submitted noi uh a little bit
information about the project at this project tonight we're going to be talking about faith one only which is the roundabout and the traffic infrastructure improvements for that part of the project only phase two the Gibson park access road will be back
again when that part of the project is ready to be um submitted to this commission um the phase one part of the project will probably take about 2 years to complete um we are have not um awarded the bid to any contractor it has
not gone out to bid yet but when it does there will be a construction schedule that will be approved um prior to any construction commencing um we talk about traffic management plan that plan is currently with mass do that has not been approved usually that
approval comes when we get the state access permit um lastly there will be um some detours some overnight shifts all residents in the area will be notified of any type of detour the overnight
shift that should occur um but more most most importantly and what we're going to talk about tonight is really the erosion controlled and the steps that we will do to keep this you know the project um from affecting the environment during construction that will be maintained
throughout the construction um I'm now going to turn it over to Devin and she's going to talk a little bit about the environmental impacts uh we're hoping to be able to display a presentation that's showing on the laptop that's connected but if not I do have some paper copies that I can hand you
perfect thank you great you could just make sure to state your name for the record absolutely Devon herck Wetland scientist of Weston and Samson thank you uh this is the construction schedule slide that Julie had just gone through so I'm going to just slide right on over to an aerial map just to refresh folks
mind as to where this project is located it is out on point of Pines uh for anyone who is perhaps a little less familiar this is a zoomed in view on what the area looks like right now so this proposed project looks on the northeast side of Route 1A right now
you'll see two concentric ramps and that is the area where we are proposing to install a roundabout as Julie had mentioned there is Project phasing involved we are here to discuss phase one which has a longer construction period time phase two
requires additional permitting in the form of some article 97 concerns and chapter 91 and it has a much shorter construction timeline so that one only a matter of months it's basically just installing a paved roadway in an already flat area there's no regrading involved
um so we expect that these two phases will complete roughly around the same time despite them being on very different tracks due to permanent constraints and with that I'm going to turn it over to Taran to discuss a bit about the project good evening Commissioners my
name is Taran Wong and with I'm a senior civil engineer with Howard Ty Hudson and one of the uh uh project Engineers on this project so with with this slide i' just like to again reiterate that we are talking about phase one tonight and phase one is the new roundabout um intersection that replace uh the the two
concentric ramps um the southbound ramps I think Deon might have noted northeast corner I think Northwest this the Western Edge side of Route 1A we're talking about the southbound portion of Route 1A so 100% of this project is within state right away and under the
jurisdiction of Mast doot we will require an access permit from both Mast doot and DCR because the project limits to the South intersect with Linway we also are doing some proposing some work on Linway and that is under the jurisdiction control of DCR this project
is also adjacent to the current and basically finished site development of 22 win also known as Gibson point that um large uh building with several apartment units and also the Gibson Park Access Project which was stated to be phase two that is um installing that
driveway with uh no grade um no regrading providing access um to and from the roundabout for the proposed Gibson Park upgrades but again that is phase two um and with phase two we hope to file that gives and part access under a separate
noi um as the permitting proceeds I'd like to also note that during this construction of phase one the roundabout and the um New off on and off ramps that emergency vehicles will have access to residential areas including the point of pine neighborhoods on the Eastern side
of Route 1A as well as um the Riverside Community as well too um during all times construction we know that this is a concern we have actually worked quite closely with uh the re fire department even on their reconstruction of their um new fire department actually right right at the edge of the project limits um I
think the new point of Pines uh fire station I can't remember exact name but yes uh We've we've gone done quite a lot of coordination there so right now on the screen uh the PowerPoint is uh the plans here so we'll try to go everything through the um PowerPoint but if if we
do need a themed in version or anything we can display it here on my left uh with a hard copy but um just like to go through I'm going to iterate that the there is an overall graphic at the end to hope uh to orient us a little better I'm just going to go through each
individual construction plan sheet to describe what the work is happening but again I will provide a high Lal combined graphic like a colorized graphic at the end um of these uh construction plans so here um the project limits to the South
would be at John a hay a um that intersection where route 1A meets those two roads we are not proposing to do any work in the intersection but our project will end right before the intersection um we are looking to uh construct a new on-ramp so replacing one of those constru ramps with a new on-ramp called
ramp B um that be adjacent to the Gibson Park parcel and that would be um allowing vehicles to enter route 1A southbound and this is what this plan here is showing in this phase can you go back to that in this phase of the project what impact will there be on
haav during this part uh portion of the construction there should be no impact to Hayes AV there will be impact um you you will see construction vehicles and construction equipment on Route 1A but there should be no um our current plans
have vehicles no no construction staging or no uh equipment staging on haab we should not be impacting that road at all with this project I'm sorry I I know you said at the end you wanted to show us the overall of everything I mean he's he's lived there
his whole life and he still doesn't understand what's going on so if you wouldn't mind skipping to the end for a second to just even even a minute of just showing us what the end project looks like maybe even a comparison of the end versus what it is now cuz I'm still completely confused so I think um
So currently if you look up at the screen or the screen in front of you the the current interchange as it exists today is kind of faded out on the screen so what we will be doing with this project
is we'll be reconstructing the ramp coming from Lynn into Rivier and it'll be reconstructed and it will lead into this roundabout which is actually going to fit um I want to say about a little
bit more than a a third or of the space that is currently there now so we're just we're kind of it's a smaller roundabout in that space that is currently within that Loop now and then what it will allow for it will allow for
Access for either to the Gibson Point development to the improvements at Gibson Park um and that it will also allow for connectivity for motorist driving for from Route 1A South back
into the point of Pines towards Rivier Beach uh it allows for First Responders that are stationed at the Alden a firehouse direct access to the Riverside without having to go all the way down the Linway hook around and come back up
so that's going to be crucial especially as that area becomes more of a recreational area we're plans to have a boating uh facility there it would be great to have access for people to be able to if if in the event of an
emergency so so just to confirm so normally to get to go to Lynn I would be going to the right of the fire department past that and that whole area what happens to that street so the that will kind of loop into this leg into the
roundabout so if you're coming from the point of Pines um you can see on the on the where the two lanes are split the right hand lane will lead you to the roundabout um from the point of pines and then um then the other on the
coming back from Gibson point it will lead you to um back to the point of pin and we're actually creating we're eliminating the slip lane um onto the entrance of the Linway in R so that
whole Lane at the very at the very end where the crosswalk is at the that right there where Taran has his cursor um that slip Lan will be eliminated that'll all become green space and just as he mentioned before haav obviously um is
there going to be a 20 foot cut back for that for which Avenue for haav haav it's uh no that should not be affected at all because that part of the that is not part of the
project okay because I'm just this this project just as far as like trying to understand it I mean this this picture that you have is now I can actually in somewhat Envision what you're saying um I just so I imagine that I now take the left before the fire department I'd go
through and the way I'm looking as if I'm going to go to Lynn it would be if that the circle uh to the right like it looks like that if you put your cursor up a little bit just up a little bit to the right to the right to the right to the right there that's how I would get to Lynn no no that would be the offramp
if you're coming from Route 1 a South so where how do I get get to L that won't change that does not change yeah correct so we are not affecting route 1A Northbound at all so the existing ramps that um the on andof ramps from Route 1A going northbound across the general
award brids towards towards Lin is not part of this project is not being altered that is um remaining the same got it okay but if you're coming from let's say you're coming from L yeah coming across the general Edwards Bridge um the entrance of the offramp um if you
wanted to enter the point of H neighborhood actually is very similar to where it is today the big biggest change here is your onramp um existing on-ramp will actually be completely moved to the other side and um you'll be now heading
almost parallel you could say to Route 1A southbound climbing up and then um meeting and merging with route 1A southbound and that again will happen all before the intersection of Route 1A Hayes and johnf thank you I just makes
way more sense seeing this than before so I it's very difficult to imagine and this is probably the clearest picture we can have come up with um because we're we're overlaying existing infrastructure which is confusing enough as it is and
doesn't really provide direct access to the area I know the last time I'm sorry one one last point I'm sorry go ahead um I know the last time we spoke was about getting to this point if there you could have one slide that's kind of like an overlay of of this over the existing I think that's going to be the way for
every single person to really see the differences or even a side by side that would be great sorry chair no that's that's quite all right um appreciate the question the onramp that you will have
that connects into 1A southbound that that is definitely a a lot closer than the existing road that you have now and how will you mitigate and uh neighborhood impacts and and also uh
when we did the site walk down it really wasn't made abundantly clear that you'd be disturbing as much of the barrier Beach area that you are when we kind of walked it down it it kind of seemed as though it would be limited to
the removal of the slipway as well as just reworking the ramp over here I did I did not realize that there would be work to extend and move over into the neighborhood side of it it's just a lot of barrier Beach to
impact for this part of the project yep so Devon can speak to that for the barrier Beach impact but for the traffic impact for the Route 1 a South to go back onto um if you're exiting from Gibson
Park and you want to go back so that is it should not affect the area um in in a way that is going to make it impassible I think there may be some detours through that area during
the construction I I just worry that changing the Topography of this very delicate area is going to have an impact on how water moves how drainage happens in this area and I want to make be very
clear that I do not want to have a situation where residents are calling me because water now can't move somewhere in this very sensitive barrier Beach okay de do you want to well perhaps if you don't mind can we go back and finish
subcribing go into the it'll go all out of order I would no we we just kind of want to get a visualization and now let's let's continue with the thank you very much happy to get to the barrier Beach section I would appreciate that absolutely Mr Mr chairman may I ask a question at this point one second yes
please hi uh could you go back to that that last image yeah um if you're come oh by the way it's uh it's Bigfoot a there's no r in it okay just a point of correction there um if if you're coming down uh to
access the point of Pines now you have to make a shop right turn uh which will allow you to go um down to the Pines big foav alav etc etc you see which the cut off I'm talking about that exists right now yep instead
of the slipway you're so are you talking about coming up the Linway and try I'm going down northal Road I'm going to take a right to go to the point of Pines okay so if you were to um so you would be heading north or
southbound Northbound Northbound South okay so if you were to go um Northbound and you wanted to go to the point of Pines it would still be the same same way and they take that
right stop right there right so you would you would still take that first exit that would put you towards I believe it's um I get mixed up with the streets but it's near it's near the street where the yach club is so you would take that right and that would take you back into
the point of pin my my question here is now I I'm very familiar with this area that's that's a rather shop turn right there and as of right now the only people with access it would be people that want to go down to the point of Pines yor Club etc etc but now uh are
there any traffic studies to show what increased flow of traffic that will be to because now you're going to have to PE people that will be having access to all the apartments too so we only have
traffic count for the Gibson point area so we do not have traffic counts for any development on the on the Linway Inland this we have traffic counts just for this particular project and that is that
is in the I believe it's in the noi it is in the in the noi um it was in the meepa submission um but we can certainly send you that information I believe that the end result of that traffic study
showed a very minimal if that increase in traffic from people coming from the development into the point of hind or even people trying to maneuver their way off of Northshore Road from the
southbound side and kind of skating through um Riv Beach Boulevard to access the train because this is actually going to be more work and more time for them to come off the sou bound ramp get into this roundabout situation and then try
to work their way back to the boulevard where you've also taken away the direct right hand turn lane onto the boulevard there's going to be a lot of stop Ando movements now that are not here so if you were somebody trying to get to
Wonderland or any of those places and you think you're going to use the boulevard to because you think it's quicker that's going to be eliminated what I'm what I'm referring to at that point is that when people make that turn uh you don't first of all that term
right now is not used to a great extent it's only used for people who are turning down into the poter Pines y Club etc etc um but if you're going to increase it for the Gibson Point people I'm wondering if that would result in a in a
in a backup of cars and as you can see that Lane that goes back backwards back up to ramp is not very long so if you have like three four or five cars that are all trying to make that access at the same time you're going to run into a
problem there because it might go all the way back to the point where it's blocking the right lane of traffic on nro road all right so I will have to look at the traffic study to see if it is if that is into if you want to hear
from okay go ahead p sorry yes so our our traffic analysis we we did look at all of the uh actions around that area as Julie mentioned that uh ramp that you're talking about is not in the scope of work I know that's not what you're suggesting but um the number of people
anticipated so we did a forecast and Analysis to say how many new uh vehicles are going to be accessing this park or accessing uh Gibson point due to the new development now our project is is not bringing these new people correct right
so that development already exists our project the scope of our project is to redo these concentric ramps so that people can navigate through the area and we did include the Gibson Point development and the Gibson Park uh Improvement program to show that there
would be more people visiting each of those sites and we did I'm not the traffic engineer who performed this study so I don't want to put direct numbers on it um however I can tell you with confidence that we took conservative assumptions which are outlined in the noi and they show no
significant I don't think even any delays added by new visitors using that offramp or any other access point to get to Gibson point or Gibson Park we've got enough uh capacity in that roundabout and the current existing infrastructure
is not changing the demand is not changing significantly so the specific concern you're talking about of vehicles backing up on that offramp is something that we we have explored and it is not going to be a traffic congestion issue based on the studies that we've done
thank you for that clarification Peter I'd like to get us back on track so and to that point um probably a story for another time at this point but please Mr W continue yeah so um I'll just quickly go through this since we were able to
see a large overview of and but uh but these each of these individual sheets sheets I'm show I just explain a little more in detail so um move to the next slide here you can see this is where we can call it the eye or the center of the roundabout um the one thing I like to point out here is that actually the
roundabout will be able to fit again all within the state right away so we're actually um having no impacts beyond the state right away all this work is contained and actually the new roundabout the new ramps offramp actually is all within the existing footprint of the existing Road and
actually a lot of the existing uh on-ramp roadway is actually being reused for that connection to um Gibson point and you um can see that as we h under the uh head under route 1A there is that overhead Bridge right and the underpass
we are not um planning to impact that bridge rebuild that bridge do any um you know modifications to that bridge we are merely just using the existing footprint of what's underneath the roadway not affecting the um slopes there's uh painted I think
there's walls currently paint sorry mural painted on the uh abutments of the bridge that is not being affected as we head under um route 1A here labeled as Gibson Park Drive on the plant next slide here and this is actually um as
going towards the general Edwards Bridge today uh what is labeled as Gibson way which was formerly known as um 22 Whitten um actually is being closed as part of this project so that access um that people who are currently accessing Gibson point would be having having to
turn right off of Route 1A to enter Gibson Point that's actually being closed and that maneuver is being facilitated with that roundabout and the new Gibson way that's being a flip on ey back as you can see here on the uh top side of your screen that is quite a treacherous turn to get in there I
that's good anyways sorry no not a problem and then the last slide here before we go into that full graphic this is uh the work that is happening down at the Linway again um DCR controls and owns uh Lin so we will be filing an access permit with them and we are in the process of that um but the one thing
I do want to note out here and point out is that uh removal of the existing right hand slip lane so this is not a removal of the right hand turn lane it is actually a consolidation of that right hand uh right sorry right turn maneuver into the intersection actually providing
back bring back Green Space actually making The Pedestrian Network more connected rather than having a pedestrian having to cross both the slip lane and then cross what is know where we have labeled here on the slide as gibs and Park Drive so um that again
right turn is still being provided for is a dedicated right turn lane uh so Vehicles can turn right onto the Linway and again that uh overview graphic um for us all see colorize the um proposed conditions overlay to the
existing conditions so we just want to highlight some of the benefits of this infrastructure Improvement project so we're creating access to the the Route 1 a Northbound and southbound for the residents east of Route 1A um as part of this project and we kind of touched upon in some of our questions and answers here that we're actually providing
minimal traffic impacts to the adjacent neighborwoods and if anything we're improving access um so and the nice thing we like to uh highlight with this project to is an addition of a shared use path that is for providing accommodations and access for both pedestrians and bicyclists to the Gibson
Park um and also improved access to the point of Pines neighborhood and with that too um Julie mentioned earlier we're providing um helping to reduce actually response time for emergency uh vehicles that they can actually use all this new infrastructure to get to you know the place they need to be and that
elimination of that slip lane that I mentioned down near the Linway and want to uh talk about the slide really quickly about the traffic considerations so um again briefly answered before was the proposed Roundup design will not increase traffic volumes and the roundabout actually has a
sufficient capacity now and for the future to accommodate anticipated future traffic volumes um some methodology I would like to explain what was used here is there was a background growth rate compounded annually for 10 uh to the build year and was utilized to account for any developments in the area which
would impact the project roadways and then lastly we understand that you know with construction there will be impacts but um we anticipate that there'll be three 24-hour detours with overnight shifts um where traffic will be diverted through a detour these um shifts will
not be sequential um um and overnight and they'll be done overnight to minimize uh the Public's impact to the public we understand that there's a big concern from the neighborhoods um both the Riverway neighborhood and the point of Pines neighborhood about unannounced traffic detours um that'll be well
communicated through the city of Riv and again um highlighted here we hope to maximum of three 24-hour detour detours and not uh nonsequential and done overnight to minimize public impact and I'll turn it back over to Devon to continue on with her
presentation thank you so much Taran uh so this proposed project will impact three resource areas under the Wetland protection act we are looking at barrier Beach and Coastal Dune those two are actually located on top of one another uh because the entirety of the point of pine Peninsula is a barrier Beach and it
also is comprised of either Coastal Beach or Coastal Dune in this case we're a little Inland so everything is characterized as Coastal Dune so those impacts will be duplicated but they are in the same space we also have 100-year flood plane impacts um that does not
make up the entirety of the project site but it is a good chunk of it and we can see that here um it's a little hard to see I'm hoping that on your screens it might be a little clear but the entirety of the area is stippled to show that we have that barrier Beach
and dune area and then we also do have a map showing you the approximate limits of the 100-year flood plane those were updated on the plan set based on elevation I believe we're talking about elevation 10 in this particular area so to break down the specific
impact numbers for you we are looking at a total impact to 100-year flood plane or land subject to Coastal storm Flowage of 65,000 611 Square ft um when we're talking about permanent impacts we're talking about anything that's going to
result in a Grade change anything that's going to result in a materials change whereas a temporary impact would be something that uh is currently impervious going to remain impervious currently impious going to remain so and will not experience any kind of grade change we also have barrier Beach and
Coastal Dune uh both of which we're expecting to see a total of 186 335 ft of impact one thing that we are looking to do on this site to improve the area is right now uh plantings are very sparse
if present at all um it's just a weedy mix that's located on the side of the highway so instead uh 44714 ft of the area will be replanted with Native Dune plantings we have included the planting list um so you folks can see the kind of pallet that
we're looking for um but they were all taken off of the CM list and they are recommended for planting in Dune areas so just a brief reminder on where we are in the design process um we have the stamped plans and we are are completing the environmental permitting
we will then go to the final step which will be to get the state access permits issued from both doot and DCR and at that point we will be ready to go at this point we'd love to turn it back for any questions that you might have so that we can answer them for you
absolutely thank you so much thank you so during your during the construction or dur or after the fact you have all these plantings who will be responsible for maintaining them they're in the dot RightWay so they will be Do's
responsibility to continue they are doing planting so they don't really require much in the way of Maintenance I would imagine that they'll follow their current mowing schedule which is not very frequent throughout the year um I think it's maybe once or twice but Dune plantings are generally uh such that
they don't require much maintenance which is a benefit my fear is that they will see tall grass and just clearcut and then we are left with what we have now uh is there a plan in place to keep
these As Natural as possible within reason so that visibility is not um diminished in these areas especially dur in the circle you have a very a good a good opportunity to have you know obviously where the trees would
probably be going and things of that nature so I just want to make sure that they're aware that we would this City would be wanting them to not just clearcut stuff up there we want we want to make sure that the plantings that you put in stabilize the soil they are also not
going to be an impact to the environment or the adjacent areas things of that nature is there a plan in place for that I mean oh sorry Julie you ahead go ahead thank you um So within the circle
which is that the area you were pointing out here yes there are some trees so the the mowing will obvious L go around the trees to my knowledge there's no specific plan beyond what do normally does for their maintenance they've certainly been involved they know what the plantings are they were absolutely aware of the pallet that was proposed
and they are on board with it okay um to my knowledge there's no specialized plan beyond that yeah just I just don't want to see them come in with their John Deere and just clearcut it yeah I mean obviously they're not going to do it to the trees but the slope that that goes
up to the South side you said you were going to be putting in grasses and things of that nature to to take hold I just want to make sure that it is given enough time to root and to stabilize the soil once it is all done so I think what you're if I'm understanding correctly is
maybe don't mow that immediately allow it time to grow in and stabilize itself correct there there have been many Restorations where they got a little overzealous and mowed that mowed things down uh a little too soon and things did
not have a chance to take hold uh I've seen it quite a few times and not just in rir it's it's a very common occurrence with the do in this I just want to make sure that you have expectations of them in this project I don't want to see a a dead Dusty area
when we get done with this um the other question I I was curious is during the slip lane removal what kind of imp there are a lot of residents when you come off of that corner that will be impacted by the removal of the slip lanane during
construction and I'm I'm sure they're going to be looking forward to having green space but the timetable that is going to take what are you going to do to mitigate the impact to their properties and what kind of restoration will you be doing if you do happen to
impact their property sure I can take this question so um we are will be affecting the driveways of two of those properties and you can see here on the screen that the driver will be reconstructed and extended actually to the Linway so they're being taken care of and as well as two we have two
pedestrian paths straight to their front doors is plan to be reconstructed we do have a detailed um traffic management plan as part of this plan set as part of the submission as a requirement um with the state highway access permit so which will yeah look to not eliminate uh
access to private residences while this um slip lane is being constructed we do not have actually those um in this PowerPoint today unfortunately but uh that is that is uh it has been engineered and considered so that we will not cut off access to those two private uh residences that have dve R
curb Cuts as well as a pedestrian path to their front door yeah I I would definitely be concerned for those residents uh not just for the driveway cut and having access to their property and but I would definitely since their
homes are in the barrier and Coastal Beach um part of this minimizing the impact to their property as well I'm sure they've manicured and taken very good care of the their properties in that area to mitigate that
I know they're right near a slipway but it's someone's home and we want to make sure that we are mindful of that and sensitive to the fact of what kind of a conservation area it is agreed and also to um just also point out too that we are taking special consideration with
there is a um Memorial a monument currently in the slip lane and that the hope is not the hope the plan and the pl should show that it's not being disturbed it's being maintained it's not being moved it's actually being retained in that area so yeah this area was definitely um considered in our design
carefully again not cutting off access to the private homeowners but also to um keeping that Memorial as is without disturbing it during construction okay and and not to get into the traffic stuff I know we're here to discuss the Wetland protection act but just
being mindful that this would also make it so that the the folks that live in that area aren't going to have cars zooming by them at this point um I think it is a definite Improvement just to add that to the record thank you
um so as far as phase one is concerned just be mindful of residential impact and what kind of areas you will be working in and and having a plan in place to mitigate any
destabilization efforts in the area to prep this and I want to make sure that we're we're limiting our impact again I want to say that again limiting our impact here at this point uh at this time I'd like to open it up for
questions uh to any of the other Commissioners just quick question Mr chairman I'm I'm wondering what the diameter of the rotary is it doesn't look much bigger than the than the one for the uh bus rotary that exists now it looks
pretty small the actual diameter of the rotary correct so um you are right this is actually a little smaller than let's call like Bell Circle I I would have to I can't remember the exact diameter of from Curb line to curb line but I think it's 120t diameters however with that we
are following um Mast dos Mass dos roundabout design guide they have very specific and prescribed diameters that u in size of the roadway they can use we've also extensively run a vehicle turning maneuvering analysis so that uh both at at minimum actually we've tested
the largest rever fire truck Department uh sorry re largest truck that the re fire department has the 100 100 plus foot ladder um we have the exact model we've run it through the ter um through the roundabout is um works perfectly fine as well as uh WB 50s the tractor
trailers and W 67s we also know that there's an mea uh bus route that runs in this produ um runs through this will be running through this uh roundabout uh we have tested that and that actually works perfectly fine there's actually um it is fully within the roadway and actually
does not have any jostling um going up what we call a truck apron so there's actually um you can see here kind of hatched in red um right beyond the yellow line that's a truck apron that's actually supposed to be utilized by large training Vehicles like a tractor trailer so yeah we understand the
importance of not impeding traffic and not um preventing the vehicles that need to get through the area so that has been studed extensively and I like to say all those Vehicles work any other questions yeah I I have a few um so is the new self-bound onramp to rout 1A going to be elevated to the
existing route 1a's current grade because the speed of traffic and limited distance of the on RAM coupled with the line of sight I just feel like could be a concern yes that is true so um the uh what may not be to apparent here is actually there'll be two retaining walls
being installed to facilitate this new onramp um again called ramp B in the design uh the vehicles will start generally at the same level as the underpass where the uh mouse cursor is right now but Vehicles will climb um reach actually the elevation of Route 1
a and actually at this point roughly um Route 1 a actually goes down and downgrade as it goes down towards John uh John AV and haav and similarly the uh ramp will be doing that as well so Vehicles will have adequate time to both see oncoming Vehicles both merging and
um Vehicles already on the main line we're calling rout 1A southbound to accelerate to meet merging speeds find a g acceptable Gap emerge um yeah extensive engineering analysis has been done to ensure that we do have the necessary ramp length to facilit safely
facilitate maneuver okay well another thing I just kind of I just want to complement the chair on bringing up you know what that Circle will be in regards to things like the the plants and things you have there but my concern the second I see that is
the fact that NOA Road already never gets cleaned up it's full of trash that area and I feel like that Circle which is going to be a I mean that's the gateway to rever I mean coming in from that side it's like point of Pines like welcome to point of pines and hey in 6
months nobody's cleaned anything up so my issue is is that's going to become like an area that collects bags of Doritos and all sorts of other stuff in the air you know cigarettes and all this stuff so that when people are coming to our great City and they're coming in
from that area it's welcome to rever instead of there being a pretty sign it's going to be a really not well-maintained full of trash little circle area so other cities in order to com combat that they've done sponsored by and they've had cities and they've
had you know companies that have sponsored that Circle where they get their advertisement which is a great area but their job there is to maintain that area so it doesn't look like a pit and I'm wondering if that's on your docket at all of a possibility so it
eventually it will be um that but our goal tonight really is to get this permitted and and constructed and then most likely with all of the other circles that we have here in the city um
we beautification committee math dot uh there's they are the ones that kind of adopt the circle program the circle most likely will be part of that program I would not be surprised um if the owners
of Gibson Point uh do not adopt this circle I mean it is a gateway into that development and the Gateway into Gibson Park so I'm sure eventually there will be somebody adopting the seral and making it clean but that at this point
we're just more focused on getting the project permitted constructed constucted and built so we're looking at probably 3 years before we would have to figure out adoption of the circle but we could definitely put it in the air of math dot
um and also the Rev beautification committee so I'm glad you brought up Gibson point because I was kind of wondering as far as this overall project of the purpose of it is the roads need to be redone is there like something big or is it really just to be able to have it that the brand new apartment complex
Gibson point now has an easier way to get there is that like the main reason for this so I mean I I I think overall it this roundabout is to improve access for everyone to access the Riverside so that park has been underutilized for
many years a lifelong resident of the city you never went there because it was too difficult to get there many years ago myself El we were involved in a park build in that area and when we mentioned Gibson Park every half of the city said where is that well well it's on the
Riverside but nobody knows where it is because nobody can get to it this roundabout is going to allow City residents access the improvements in that area this is also going to be a game changer for the rever fire department they have a brand new station
which is going to have a ladder truck an engine truck and all of the Necessities that they need to do water rescues they lose time every time they go down the Linway they don't have the building 19 parking lot to hook around anymore that
is under development they actually have to go down not the first set of lights but actually the third set of lights before they can swing that ladder truck around they lose I think it's probably about 5 minutes this roundabout will put them in direct line of any emergencies
on the Riverside you're shaving off 5 minutes from saving somebody's life so you have to really look at the overall project and the benefits of this yes it will lead people to that new development but it's also going to lead people to an open space that is underutilized and
that has a lot to offer the whole Community you have a public garden there you have a beautiful playground we're going to have an amazing boat house but nobody's going to be able to get to it if they feel like oh this is too much work I had to go all the way into Lynn I got to turn around I got to come back I
mean it's just it's it's kind of shameful that we have this open space and we're not making it accessible to everyone in addition to this this roundabout also going to provide a shared youth path bike lane so you want
to um take your bike from Beachmont you want to ride all the way down the Boulevard and access this you're going to have a direct line to do that so we need to think multim multimodal we need to think connection and access for everyone so I would just recommend in
the future someone who you know loves pitching and marketing and those things in my own life and job and history what you just said need needs to be more said more or at the front of all this stuff I would just bullet point all the things you said because that makes a lot more
sense than what I've seen so far of literally everything else so I applaud you for what you just stated that needs to be like front page kind of you know they call it above the fold that needs to be above the fold especially the fire department side um so I appreciate um
you stating that and it that kind of changes my opinion of the project because before it just kind of looked like why we doing this and now that makes a lot more sense you know and this is a discussion we go back and forth in our in our own office you know a master
plan of any area is going to include all of the components of planning so it is going to include you know some level of housing some level of recreation some level of infrastructure improvements this project took into into
um into looking at all of the those levels all of those different aspects of a master plan project now some Pro Parts of those projects got put out front and center and that kind of took away from the public positive
benefits of this project but at the end of the day this is going to be a game Cher for a lot of people here in the city especially for though like you said you like to access the water um I'm a swimmer I wouldn't mind trying to swim out over in that area area uh you have
people here in the room that like toat kayak canoe now they have direct access to the water without having to to Lug everything you know someplace else my my only last comment on this and then I'm good is um is there if there's any way
of requiring the Gibson Park Apartments to do more as far as the beautifying of that area of any way and what you're doing um CU I don't think there is on our side um I would highly recommend that whatever they can be on the hook for and I mean as much as humanly possible I would try to put into
whatever documentation things you're doing that since we're helping them out as a city to get it to make their lives easier for them to be able to get more people for their apartments for them to make more money which is great I I'm a capitalist I'm great with that but at the same time I feel like they owe the
city of Riv for beautifying that area since it's a gateway to their Apartments if you have any way of trying to convince them to beautify that area more than it is so that people can see the beautiful Gibson par and all that you know I I just would add that and then that's all I really had to say on that
so they are they are currently beautifying their stretch of the Riverside uh their property line they've also contributed funds to restore some of the shoreline off of gibon Park they
are contributing to the community Investment Trust Fund I don't know how much that is but that is a requirement of that project that money is designated ated specifically for that Ward so if and it usually comes from a request from
the city councelor to the mayor but that could be a request that you know that money be used to beautify that area you know fill in the gaps of what we're missing um from this project or even from the developer but that that could
be uh a perfect way to spend that money thank you yeah please uh yes so at at this time any other questions concerning the Wetland protection act about this phase
of the project I H erosion controls I didn't see much or what are your plans and in terms of that controlling when when doing the construction yeah so um I'll go back to
the plan set here and before you begin I'd like to make sure that everybody is aware we should be talking about the Wetland protection act we are not the traffic commission we want to make and we are not here to talk about a lot of the concerns and how it's all going to
impact let's let's stick to the topic in hand about this project so in areas of uh disturbance like I'll I'll Focus here um between on the kernic slope of uh as we construct ramp B uh Mass DOT standard detail being used for the pro sediment
control barrier as you can see here outlined right near the limit of grading so um yeah we because within state right away and this is uh needs to meet State Standards we'll be using Mass DOT sediment control barrier um and that'll actually go out through entire project area of disturbance as you can see here
on the North side sorry plan North Side along Gibson way as the mouse is tracking they'll be siment proposed sent control barrier um they've done quite a an extensive amount of repair and restoration over at Gibson point and
definitely want to make sure that the erosion controls are in place to secure that area as well it's it's definitely a lot better than it was than the g&j area that it used to be just just sement and control or are
you doing what about the drainage and on this tree because are we we doing some of that as well are we doing silt sacks on the system any existing and proposed cach basins um installed uh sorry existing cach B so prior to the commence
of the project during the project following Mass do standard details and procedures Sil saxs will be used for all catch base and Inlet protection actually as part of this too project we have um requirement to clean existing sediment okay and uh both the catch base and the man holes themselves so the structures
as well as the pipes a certain percentage of the pipes will need to be cleaned in order um before the projects turned back over and completed so that's part of the project yeah that's I just want to make sure that we had it thank you another question that I have is what will do be doing prior to construction
to ensure that the storm water management system in that area is adequate enough to move water around while you are during or during this phase of the construction um I've noticed that driving I drive that area back and
forth to Salem every single day and I have noticed that those storm drains are definitely not in great condition and that I would advise that they are cleaned out prior to any construction so
that water can move effectively noted thank you yep any other questions from the Commissioners at this time I'd like to open it up to the audience uh any proponents for this project please come
forth anybody on Zoom that would any proponents on Zoom hearing none um or did any opponents to this
project Council can you unmute if you are trying to speak I will state again I'm I don't know if I said my name earlier I'm Pete roesy with Howard Stein Hudson I don't think I can count as a proponent since I'm on the design team but I would consider myself one if
possible thank thank you Peter Council SAA are you able to unmute no uh the should be able un mute I believe Andrew no it would be on her end she would have to unmute herself or maybe he has it all
muted Council SAA are you able to unmute Angel if you can hear us could you unmute yourself if you do have a question or maybe type it in maybe she's typing it in at this point counselor can you are you able to unmute
or type in the chat it's saying that I can't unmute are excellent thank you it was telling me that I could not unmute okay um I have a couple of things I want to discuss we were uh Julie you
were talking about how they're going to be um having some green space available and you me mentioned the CIT funds we won't be using CIT funds for that that is up to Gibson point to be taking care of it since this roundabout is for
them and I don't want to hear anything different from that I know it's for them now Peter you were talking about Riverside um how it's not going to be an imposition on the point of Pines residence but then you were talking about rerouting traffic through the
point of Pines that's my second concern and then my third is um Julie you were talking about notifications being sent to poter Pines and Riverside residents for whatever phases will coming up next and and step
by step of what was being done um I want to make sure that that is not going to be within 300 and 500 feet but instead to all residents that will be impacted so whether we're moving from whether we're moving from
one area to another um and and you have to reroute the traffic from from baitman to to get um to one of the other one of the other streets then I need to make sure that all the residents that will be impacted
at some point will be notified sorry I finally got this thing to work um and I think that's about it then I'm worried about the safety access I wanted to go over improving the safety access that you would in as
well so I have a many phase question so in regards of notifying the residents regarding any type of construction schedule or any type of detours or any any parts of this project
um will most likely happen once the project has been awarded to a contractor there'll be a another meeting um where we'll talk about the construction schedule um when it comes to detours and any of that type of stuff we'll be
talking um we'll be sending out direct 311's to the residents in the area um nothing is going to happen uh like it did to I think it was two Winters ago now where the southbound ramp got shut down nobody knew about it everybody was
freaking out in the in the Pines um that will not happen this time so we are we are committed to making sure that residents know the schedule far in advance um I I personally adopt a practice where any type of construction
schedule I receive an update depending on the scope and size of the project it's usually two weeks or one week I get a week's notice or two weeks notice of what's Happening two weeks prior the or the two weeks following that so um and
that will get passed on to you and I think that we've addressed that considering the nature of the area and the extensive uh nature of this project that the concerns of residents will
definitely be addressed as it comes up that that is correct and I and I cannot I know there's been a lot of concerns with residence regarding you know are you going to shut my street down are you going to detour traffic through my my
my area I can't answer that right now because we do not have 100% stamp plans from MTH do and our traffic mitigation and any type of detours that needs to be approved by them um and until we get
that approval I cannot speak to what that will look like but as I've said before we're committed to holding a meeting with you and your constituents prior to construction kicking off and thank you for that Julie um one more question is you you said that there was
no traffic counts done for the Linway on our side um instead of you you did Gibson the Gibson Point side why wasn't a traffic count done on the point of pin side on how it could affect
us so I believe it was done it's in the noi Peter did you do you have the account for that yes I we did take uh we did take counts on both sides of 1A I think what uh Julie mentioned earlier
was we could not forast traffic counts or impact for any developments that happened in Lynn because I know that was a question that came up at one point where maybe there's a future development planned in Lynn um and how might this impact uh traffic we we reached out to
Lynn and asked about future developments they planned and what we talked with them is that anything that is developed or built in Lynn that project will be responsible for identifying those traffic counts because we can't forecast what isn't built yet but in terms of this project area specifically we took
traffic counts pretty much in and out to point of Pines uh north of the point of Pines neighborhood south of the PO of Pine's neighborhood on Riverside and po ofine side basically at the general redwards bridge and then all the way
down um at like Archer I think you know at where Mills a ends so we've got pretty extensive traffic accounts for this entire area and we actually river side that is not the point of pin side okay okay okay at this point right now
we are not here to discuss traffic patterns we are not here to discuss the impact that the traffic is going to make on the residents we are here to discuss the impact that this project is going to make on the Wetland protection act
[Music] period And if the questions that come up and if the questions that come up up from here on in the these are questions for another commission these are questions for a completely different setting I just want everybody to be
mindful of that now any other questions that we have are going to be addressed in a sense in another setting and another time at this time I would like any other followup
questions that are concerning this project from the Wetland protection act hearing none I would like to call for a motion to close the hearing I'll make a motion to close the hearing can I get a second second oh oh
I'm sorry we have people in the audience oh I apologies I retract that thank you and keeping in mind before you come up uh my name is Jorge Monon um I'm resident of uh Riva I actually live on
fire or right in front of the fire station um I'm very new to this that's a lot of information for me um I think based on the Wetland protection act um I don't know if this will come into consideration but when you want to get
rid of the slop Lane that we were talking about right um I think it's going to have a big impact on that area so as so the the slip lane is definitely more more of a traffic
issue but but taking away that slip lane it adds more green space which is something that I would want okay having a slip lane in there makes just for the sake of brevity here it makes it so that residents just come off that ramp and zoom into the into the into the traffic
flow without stopping I I've been on that side coming down right and and it is definitely not good but from my perspective taking the slip lane out of there and adding more green space is something we certain want to enhance especially in this area that is Coastal
I've cleaned that little Lan right there with my daughter actually last week so um and the other thing it's um I I'm wondering why there's no more residents from the area here CU we barely got a notice from it we didn't know this was going on so I think it's
more of a case because the construction hasn't really all of it has not been permitted correctly so they so we don't really know what to advise residents about and what is exactly going to happen um in this area we have a general scope we
have a general understanding of what we're going to be doing but we don't have the full scope and we don't want to misinform residents uh rest assured that you will receive anything that is going to impact you we found out we have an eement on our property and we really
thought our house was going to be cut in half so that's why we we came here and get I haven't heard anything that the city is going to to be taking things by imminent domain I'm assuming no we're actually going to be giving more green space back to the residents at this
point from what I can see from the the scope of the project apprciate so it's it's going to be more green space for you more beautification of you at the front of your home uh you live on that corner of the slipway correct I'm dry in front of the fire station station okay so yes so it would be definitely more
green space for you in this in this it would be more grass and flowers and trees and whatever else you decide to put in that green way that you're going to be adding to there so it'd be more of an enhancement in front of your property and getting the
road away from your property than it would be uh adding more congestion and residents will find it I think more of a treat that cars aren't just slipping right off of the exit on into your neighborhood for sure yeah like someone
from The Forum mentioned uh you know I've been taking care more of that little slope that anybody else uh so hopefully there is a plan to you know somebody to like be on top of those things to to commissioner ever's point
we we don't want to see uh people throwing bags of trash or you know whatever it is down there to become a skunk two weeks ago from that area so yep and and I'm sure that as plans get solidified that we will have a more
robust plan and people will start to sponsor those areas I and I'm sure a Greenway that is as large as that little where that slipway used to be might even get sponsored seeing as how it has a memorial there as well sure for sure I hope that would be my hope to have that someone maintaining that on the regular
can I also ask I'm chrisan andon I'm his wife and we um live in the area um Julie you had mentioned that you were hoping that this would attract more people to the area and get them to visit the playground get them to maybe dip into the beach um I will say that the rotary
has not we lived on the other side of rivere I would say the rotary is not the reason why my family had not visited before it just it's also the Linway but my question to you and this is pertaining to the wetlands is your hope is that by redesigning this rotary that
it will attract more people to the playgrounds and to the beach well the beach is taken care of by the residents priv the residents is a private beach the residents take care of it on Saturdays uh I think once a month uh Angela organizes a group of people to go
out and take care of it your hope is that it attracts more people they can be there if it's a private beach that's one two how are they going to help us take care of our beach and preserve the beach and the areas around there so that I would assume would be uh as this project
unfolds and we have more information we don't have all the information at this point I would say how that is going to unfold but I'll let you speak a little bit to that so this project um you're talking about the the beach on off of RAB or just all around okay I mean how
are we going to protect it if we're inviting more people well so first of all the Riverside is a public place so if I choose to go there I have full right to go there um I know that the point of Pines beach off of rice a is community controll by the point of Pines
ass Association but you cannot stop anybody from accessing the water at The High tidde Line on either side right so if I'm on Rivier Beach and I decide I want to walk my way to the point of Pines in the water I have full right to
do that that is my right so you technically cannot stop people from walking by your Beach or visiting the Riverside Beach that is especially on the river side um I think that you the this project this roundabout project is
just to improve access to the area now that is something that the point of pin Association will have to work with the city and math dot to understand what type of mitigation that they are willing to put in to protect a private beach
that people can't access on one side of the point of pines and then the public beach that is open for everybody so I think um the purpose of tonight's project is to talk about the roundabout talk about erosion control how we are
going to protect the current Wetlands that are open to every everyone um and that that we are making sure that the current planting that are there that protect the barrier Beach remain intact they're protected and also when the
project is over what we do to replace that in terms of taking care of the beaches um that's a discussion for another day that is out of the scope of this project um more than happy to once this project gets going if you feel as though more people are coming to the
area that's that's a conversation that the ward council can begin with the city um but on the Riverside you cannot restrict people from using that waterway that is that is a public Waterway it will remain a public Waterway um and
that is access and open to anybody who wants to use it thank you for that explanation I can I can definitely see your concern increased foot traffic is going to put an impact on the beaches and waterways in that area um
but it it is a public area and that no go ahead I understand that I know it's a public area but if our goal also is to increase it how are we going to protect that land or that space so so and that that can be another meeting and that's sign I just want that something that you
would have to work out the point of Pines Association is going to actually have to work that out with the city of Rivier that is not in the scope of this project tonight and once again if you are a visitor of rier Beach if you choose to walk the water line you can
technically be on the point of but we're going to increase the number of people that are going to be have access to have the right to do that at the water line they have the right to do that okay so you cannot stop they walking versus driving a car but they have the right to do that and if they
decide okay okay this this isn't hold hold on time out time out this isn't a debate right now and it's one person at the mic at a time not back and forth that's how a public meeting works I don't want to have to lay out rules again about how this
works and I would appreciate if it was one at a time not back and forth and and I I want to make sure that the residents have have your concerns been met have you have you do you feel satisfied in the answers that you have
received yeah like I said it's our very first time this is brand new to us I appreciate all the information that has been given to us um yeah like I said we would love to be on the loop of everything that is going on and and and hopefully everything works out for for the rest we we this we
would definitely be fully transparent it is the law to be transparent in this situation fully 100% I would just ask too that the residents are aware of the time in the meeting place um I received both letters and I did not know the time of this meeting or any of those other meetings
that may have happened um so the best place to find those things are in the r Journal it is posted online when we do have our meetings we are the first Wednesday of the month 6:30 p.m. in these council chambers uh this is a special meeting uh unfortunately we we
did not have a a quarum last time and I want to get into it but this is a special meeting but we are usually the first Wednesday of of every month okay yeah because we're the only ones here from the neighborhood so I'm assuming more would have I I'm assuming the people that are connected to this would be more interested to and probably
didn't have any idea there's also the revier website so if you just look up the Conservation Commission me they have like a meeting calendar with everything that you'd be able to see that too yeah there's a City events calendar that has every single public meeting
posted just go on the city website and look up events there's a calendar right on the homepage and the commission meetings as well as every other Lake City Council meetings will be posted there if you are ever looking for them
um and so are there any other questions from anybody on Zoom or anybody in the audience at this time commissioner Rudolph I just want to mention that the department of planning Community Development has a robust newsletter that gets published at the end of every month
every project that we're working on especially this project whether it's related to the infrastructure improvements to the Gibson Park improvements all of that is posted in the newsletter monthly so I strongly suggest anybody watching tonight that
has not signed up for a newsletter to do so you will get notice of all meetings notification public filing um records anything that you need related to this project excellent thank you for the
information um so last last call any more questions from anybody else commissioner is included I just in regarding with the information I agree that that is work to do I I hate to say this but honestly I I
started learning about this project when I got involved into this I also want to appreciate you doing you said you went out with your daughter picking up the tri I I really appreciate that that's I think stuff like that K just brush but I think that's that's that's protecting the environment protecting the wetlands
I appreciate I do that with my kids as well and I'm glad that other people are doing that so thank you and but I agree with you we should do I think there should be ways where people get informed about this projects I think if they live in front where this project is happening
a letter on the mail or something they're they're busy they have kids I'm in the same Bo and you're saying go to a website check this I'm I'm sorry I don't think we will do that if I'm a regular citizen I wouldn't expect me to do that when it's some work happen on the street
so that is some work that should be done I think better communication to the residents I agree I think that should be if I'm in his shoe I think there should be like a letter or something in to the community so we are trying our best to
communicate all aspects of this project um we have several channels that we're using we are only required city ordinance to notify a but of the project within 300 ft for this notice of intent we were only required to notify a
Butters of 100 ft for both notification for the meepa single environmental review We expanded that requirement 600 ft both ways so instead of only sending out letters to approximately 100 those
letters went out to 500 residents in the area for this notice of intent um once again that 100 feet buffer was expanded in a circle so you actually talking about would we end up encompassing about
200 250 feet of the whole project area expanding the notice from 100 uh 50 a Butters to 175 the notice the notice of intent uh buttered notices followed state law
so they were within 100 ft of the limit of so we are doing everything we can to make sure this is not that people are notified um I currently have a list of anybody who attends the public meetings they get a notification um I once again
I strongly encourage people of the point of pines and the Riverside to sign up for the dbcd um newsletter also check our website there's abundance of information on there um we have prioritized projects
this is one of them um and you can see all of the information on there we are not trying to hide anything we we want full transparency in this process thank you so much you're welcome okay hearing no more questions
like to close the hearing can I call for a motion to close the hearing motion to close the hearing second all in favor hi hi hi excellent hearing is now closed um so at this time this this project has some strict
adherence to the wetlands protect ction act and seeing is from your erosion controls to the notifications that you've made to the project the overall scope of the
project and its benefit and and minimization of impact that it's I think this is going to be something that is going to enhance the area instead of diminish it we're adding extra green space we're adding a more convenient and
more robust um emercy access to the area and we're also giving abundance of residents access to areas and easements and roadways that they need to to instead of
taking that hair pin turn where g&j used to be so at this time I would like to call for an approval of this notice of this um order of conditions excuse me or notice intent excuse me oh my God I'll I'll make a motion to approve the noi
can I get a second second all in favor I I I excellent thank you very much you very much I appreciate it uh so we we did have a few other we had some site visits that we I just want to make sure that we get on record here um
obviously A10 Washington Avenue Gibson Park uh 55 Sagamore we had last month 190 VFW Parkway the high school project 96 Lee Burbank Highway uh that was for a deconstruction and um
the suff Downs uh Road improvements as well um at this time I'd like to open up any discussion any Commissioners from the zoom have anything that they'd like to discuss or any of the Commissioners here okay hearing none um I would like
to call for a motion to adjourn make a motion to adjourn second all in favor hi hi hi thank you very much for