do this. Good evening everyone. Uh for all those that wish to please uh stand for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic for it stands one
nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Uh first up is roll call. Uh so we have Dora here, our auxiliary um
commissioner. Uh Brian is here. Uh Tom is here. Joe is here. Um Bernardo and Amelia. Uh not with us this evening is um Wilson
Carrera. Um next up is review and approval of the meeting minutes. Any changes, additions, modifications on the minutes? No. Okay. Uh, can I get a motion to approve the meeting minutes?
Motion to approve meeting minutes. Second. Second. All in favor? I I I. Excellent. Uh, first up is a continuation notice of intent mass D file number 061
0840 30 Floyd Street. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Chairman, there he is. I was going to pinch it for this guy, but I guess he's here. Okay. Thank you, Rick. Nothing like coming right in. I apologize for the traffic out there.
Not a problem. Thank you for being here. Good evening. My name is Paul Fino. I'm with PJF and Associates. I'm here on behalf of Kevin Charles who the owner and the applicant of the property. Okay. Who is the owner and applicant of the property located at Dirty Floyd
Street? Uh this is a continuation of our uh last meeting because we're waiting for doing a uh site visit of the property and that was done probably about last week or 10 days ago. Uh we had two commission members go out to the site. We show them the site what we're
proposing on a portion of the lot is construction of a single family dwelling. The property is located in the flood zone. There will be foundation openings in the um foundation to allow for water to flow through in case there is a flood. Uh there'll be two parking
spaces put on the right side of the property. Um entrance for the house is on the Floyd Street side and the remain of property mostly be grass. Thank you. When we visited the site on Saturday, there were a few other commissioners that were able to see the
site and one of the questions that I had was are all of the pieces of concrete going to be removed when you do the demolition and I is any there was talks about something remaining uh where the entrance of the house would be where the
new entrance of the house would be with the on the property line or what would be a property line. Yeah. up top. Um well that we that's sort of filed under a separate auto notice of intent because it's sort of dealing with two
different properties. But the existing garage will be taken down along with the concrete slab. Okay. The concrete pad that's out in back behind the garage that'll be taken out and under the next order under the next notice that we did for abbreviated notice of intent.
There's a portion of the concrete pad that is over here will be removed and then we'll be putting in our parking spaces for number 30. Okay. Um any other questions from the commissioners about
this now this is just for the demolition of demolition of the con uh and construction. This is for basically the construction of and demolition will be the construction of the single family dwelling. Okay. I'm just confused why you guys had a abbreviated notice, but
that's okay. Um, any other questions from the commissioners? The abbreviated notice is to deal with the other spell. Yes. Okay, that makes that makes a little sense. I thought it was for both part two separate notices.
I I would just state having visited the place um they really did think of conservation when they were doing the property they've gone through and made it uh something that was important to them from a a speestous riddled shack to now being a beautiful home. I think it's
going to be a benefit to the neighborhood because I don't feel that property should be standing regardless. Um, but now with the way it's being done, I just uh I just feel strongly that they really did think about how it's going to affect wetlands,
everything just with the flood plane. Just think it was a smart build from what I was able to see and from what it is to what it's going to be in my opinion. Thank you. Where's the uh rain water going? Excuse me. Where's the rain water going off the
roof drainage? Is it a grass? Okay. Um, any other questions from commissioners? Okay. Um, is there anybody at this time? I'd like to open it up for any questions in the audience. Any opponents or proponents of the
project? Okay. Um, I don't have any further questions. And if none of the commissioners do at this time, I'd like to call for a motion to close out the hearing. I'll make a motion to close the hearing.
I'll second. All in favor? I. Excellent. Um, so I'm sure I'm I'm assuming that you're going to have a down spouts and all of that to, you know, rain gutters and things of that nature that just direct
right onto the property. Correct. Um, so that's that's something that I would just be concerned about. Well, we can address that with order of conditions to make sure that you're not impeding any of the neighbors. And I know that the neighbor is the person person that owns the property next door, but um I don't
have any problems or have any or see how this would violate the wet wetland protection act. And at this time, I'd like to call for a motion to approve this NOI. I'll make a motion to approve the NOI. Second. All in favor? I I thank you.
Thank you very much. Uh next up is an abbreviated notice of intent. Mass D file number 061 0843. Don't go any don't go anywhere. Um for the removal of a
portion of the concrete slab and replacing with suitable material and pvious pavers um to create a driveway. And this is also going to be a part of I I don't know why this was the removal of the existing garage and is it well the
garage is coming down under both orders under both um projects. It's just that I had utilized the garage area as compensation for the area that's being um filled in for the driveway. You do that with papers correct from what this
is. Okay, I'll just open the hearing for this. Um so take it away sir. Uh good evening Paul from KPJF and associates in behalf of Kevin Charles who's the owner and the applicant of the property. Um what we'll be doing is this lot was subdivided into
two lots. Uh variances were granted and the planning board has signed off on the plan. And what we're proposing is on the existing house lot there is a concrete walkway and concrete path between the house and the garage. one section is
higher than the other then and the other one is about six seven inches lower. So what we'll be doing is removing that portion of the pad of the concrete filling it in with suitable material for these um previous pavers so it to be parking for two
spaces for house number 30. Are you going to be changing the grade where it is at all or we'll be changing we'll be changing the grade in this area right here raising it up about six seven inches and we'll be using the garage
portion of the garage foundation wall as the back stop for the driveway in the grades. Okay. And then we'll just extend that wall out the property line out onto the street. Okay.
Um, any questions for the commissioners? No. Okay. Pretty pretty straightforward. Um, I at this time I'd like to open it up to anyone who is an opponent or proponent of this project uh in the
audience. Seeing none, um, commissioners don't really have any questions. Um, motion to close out the hearing. Motion to close out the hearing. Second. All in favor? I. Excellent.
Um, it's pretty straightforward and you you're removing pvious surfaces to or impervious surfaces to create a pvious surface, which is definitely an enhancement to the property. Um, I don't see how this is from what you're doing in your construction methods that it
would violate the Wetland Protection Act. Um, and at this time, I'd call for an approval of this notice of intent. Motion to approve the NOI. Second. All in favor? I I thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it and good luck on your
project, both of them. Uh, next up is a certificate of compliance 29 to 33 Putnham Road. This is a repave and um driveway extension and we had a site visit on May 3rd. uh
if the folks from that property could come up. Okay. Um so there's no one to represent the property at this time and from the site visit I just want to have this on record that the project is not
complete. They the driveway that they were going to resurface was not resurfaced. It was actually repaved and the fill that came from that repaving was spread out from um across the yard
and that was definitely evident when you first walked up. Uh the next thing I noticed because the project wasn't finished, their erosion controls are still not in place. So that is something that they are also uh in violation of their order of conditions. And from
the the rest of it is basically there is a cease and desist on the property at this time. Um and I I don't think that it would be prudent to approve this uh certificate of compliance and we're going to have to continue this until um
they are able to put this in compliance. Um so we will move to the next item. Can I speak on that before you close it? I haven't closed it. So if you if you would like to speak, please one person at a time, please. Thank you.
Um Mike and Can you turn your mic on? Okay. It's been a while since I've been up there. Um, I'm very familiar with the area. I'll give you a little of my background before so you can listen to us. I was on the conservation board for
almost 10 years. And I ran the water and sewer department for the city of Reier and drain for 36 years. Mhm. I've been down to the property, been there several times. What they did needs to be taken out, never mind revamped. They're beyond
their 20 feet of open driveway. Y they added material. I'm familiar with this. I did all my homework on this here before I came up here. And they're just basically telling the city and the conservation board, take a hike. Mhm.
And it this can't keep on happening. Those people down there when they had the high tide floods, those sellers all filled, everything was down. The people lost everything down there. And these people just doing whatever they want when they want. When you told them to
stop the last time, what they did was the next day, I was a witness to it. They brought equipment in. If you looked at the white lines that are on the ground down there, I measured it. I went down there and looked at it. Mhm. The people down there don't need
it. Okay. It needs to be rectified. They better start finding them. I know they got a letter. They should start finding them immediately. Mhm. So, it's taken out. I agree. Um, unfortunately, that is the finding part is not my purview. Excuse
me. yet. But, um, I I do agree with everything that you did say and it is definitely not how it should be. It's it's it needs to be fixed. It needs to be ripped out. I We're not sure what kind of fill they put in when they re paved that driveway. We're not They try
to say that's a French swale over there. That's nothing but gravel just thrown over there. I saw the videos that were provided to us and it is definitely not a French train. I mean, they I can't emphasize enough the people down there.
Granted, they're in a flood zone. Everybody that lives there knows that they're in a flood zone. They understand it. Mhm. But you don't add to it with that much material of asphalt. No, absolutely. They're they are way outside the order of conditions that we imposed on the property. And I feel incumbent
upon myself to not grant the certificate of compliance. and until they do comply, uh, it will keep getting continued. But, as far as fines and things of that nature, unfortunately, we don't have the ability to impose. I know that's I' I've
already looked into that, but it's they're not going to get approval from us. Bottom line. Okay. And I thank you for that. And if you have any questions or anything, like I said, I thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for the
time. Anyone else? Okay. Um, Wendy Sheridan. I live at 36 Putnham Road. I am across the street from 29 Putnham. Uh, I am the one that had originally called and notified the conservation committee of what was happening. And I think I spoke to you
directly in regards to the issue down there. My biggest concern is when and if all of this gets settled, what I would like to see happen is that the driveway go back to the city ordinance of 20 ft. I feel as though if I were to do
something on my property that I would also have to comply with the city building department, the DPW as well as any conservation people and I would have to build to code and and I feel that that is it's it's very very important that this goes back to 20 feet because
right now they've extended the opening to 43 feet which has created a complete catastrophe in regards to the parking department, the traffic department as well as the police department. The calls that these
people perpetrate from their location to our location because of how we we're parked and which is legal because we've had conversations with the traffic department as well as the police station and we're completely fine and compliant in what we're allowed to do. But the harassment level from these
people is just horrific and it's been going on. I can go back to 2019 that I have documentation from 2019 that these people have been calling the city on me. So my biggest concern is to get this back to 20 ft so that it opens up the
end of end of the street for other people, guest whatever to come and park and not be harassed by these people. Um, and it I think that would also stop the phone calls to the city, to the parking, to the traffic, and to the police
station as well. I agree. The um the existing driveway in I believe that was grandfathered in was 26 ft that they had originally paved down there. I know 20 ft is the city ordinance, but they did have something that was existing that was 26 feet. So, not that I want to split hairs or anything at this point,
but their order of condition says 26 ft and that's what I have on on file just to make everybody swear and hold. But if it was put back the way it was, I'm sure that it would be a much different situation at the end of that street considering what you have parking down
there and how tight that street is as well. Um, I really don't want to get too much into the parking and the police and all that, but that's a different day. And I can appreciate you wanting to get it on the record. I do win. Thank you very much. Um, but at this time this is they have more issues with the city of
Breier and the inspectional services than they do with us. I'm not issuing their certificate of compliance. Okay. The rest of it is on the city to really enforce and really start to understand what the situation is down there. Okay. Great. All right. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Absolutely.
Thank you. Thank you, Councelor Garino SA 5. Um, I just have a question. I was listening to what you said about the 26 ft driveway that was pre-existing, but that's the is that the actual driveway that they have that's 30 foot long. That's and then you had
another 21 20 foot one next to it. Yeah, they had 26 feet in their original opening and then they added an additional however many feet they added when they moved the fence and put in that French drain over there. So that's
that paving that they did. It was only supposed to be 26 ft. But what I'm saying, it was supposed to be a a resurfacing, too. They weren't supposed to rip everything up as well. No, I understand what you're saying. What? That's where they put the cars sideways, right? That's what you're talking about where the cars go
sideways. Oh, at the end of the street. Yes. At the end of the street. Correct. So, now that should all come out, right? Because they do have their own driveway that's 30 ft. Yes. In length. Correct. That's So, that shouldn't be there at all. at all. That that when they moved the fence, I just want to I want to make sure I understood it. And when they
moved the fence, they inherently extended their driveway, which should not have happened. They they need to move their fence back to where it was and do what they agreed upon. And that's not what has happened. So, we need to make sure that they're doing what they need to be doing. Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome. Absolutely. Um, so I'm sorry. So if you're stating that they need to put the driveway back to its existing condition, pre-existing condition, pre-existing condition. Thank
you. Um, h, how do I how do I approach the city and who do I go to, if you could advise me to try to get this back to to the city ordinance? I feel as though let's say for the sake of argument, I'm going to tear down my garage and I want to build a new one. I
would have to build it according to the city ordinance. Correct. Correct. So, because you're going to mandate that they rip this all out and rebuild it, shouldn't it go back to the 20 ft? So, I don't have the answer to that, but I would definitely be more than willing
to speak about this offline. Okay. And and direct you where you might need to be. Okay. I have questions myself. Okay. Great. Perfect. All right. Questions myself, but I would definitely be willing to chat about this with you at another time. Fabulous. Thank you. Uh so we're going to definitely continue
this till next time hopefully. Um okay, next up is uh we have some new business here. It's uh Gibson Park uh Mass D file
0610842. Um this is for a park renovation for the city of River. Thank you. This one is where they can see it the best. Uh, no. Actually, it was good there. Was it good? Yeah. Leave it there and just angle it this way a little bit.
Yeah. There you go. side of that. Perfect. All right. Uh for the record, Claire Hogabone with LEC Environmental Consultants representing the applicant, the city of River. Uh this is for phase one of the Gibson Park Recreation
Expansion Project. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Just gonna open the hearing real quick. Sorry. Apologies. I got a little starruck. Sorry. Um so this phase one is uh within Gibson Park proper. Uh phase two is going to
occur at the or 29th the Avenue parcel just to the south of Gibson Park. Um and just because of um a multitude of reasons. We're sort of splitting those into two separate phases. So the commission will see a notice of intent for phase two uh in the future. But um
for today's filing, we'll be talking about the Gibson Park portion of the work. Um just to go over existing conditions very briefly, you enter Gibson Park from the terminus of Hayes A just in the south portion of the site here uh via a
paved uh driveway and you enter into a paved parking lot and as you see in light blue colored throughout the plan set is uh paved walkways throughout the site. Um the two boxes that are outlined in dark blue are four tennis courts uh
located within the eastern portion of the site. And the dash blue line above the um tennis courts here is a half basketball court. And the commission might recall that we came before you in
2023 for an ANRAD application uh to have wetland resource areas on the site approved. Um so just in this northeastern portion of the site is an isolated wetland that's jurisdictional under your ordinance. Um and the project does not have any
impacts to that isolated wetland. Um the remainder of the site is occupied again by the uh paved walkways and manicured lawn and within uh this larger area here is a baseball field and diamond in sort of the
southeast corner of that. um additional resource areas located on the site. There's almost all of them. Uh in pink here, it's sort of a combination of salt marsh or coastal beach. Um and the purple line through the center of
the site is the 200 foot riverfront area extending from the mean high water line associated with Pines River. Uh the site it the site itself is located on Point of Pines Peninsula. So that is a barrier beach. uh
jurisdictional area and uh as such anything upgradient of salt marsh or coastal beach is considered coastal dune but um with the existing conditions on the site it doesn't really present the typical coastal dune features that you
would see um I think lastly we have of course the majority of the site is located within land subject to coastal storm flowage with the exception of the baseball diamond that's sort of outlined uh with these squiggly lines
here. Um the proposed activities will ultimately result in 22 about a little under 20 uh 230,000 square feet of impacts to barrier beach and coastal dune and land subject to coastal storm
flowage. Uh 78,000 square feet of impacts are within riverfront area. um the project. Let me just page here. So, the proposed project includes uh you know the biggest component of it
is uh transitioning the baseball field, a manicured lawn to a multi-purpose athletic field. So that's this large rectangle in the sort of south central portion of the site. Um to accommodate that, the walking paths will be reconfigured to go
around the athletic field. And uh as a result, it reduces the amount of paved areas within the riverfront area and sort of pulls that pavement away from the river itself as well. Uh the four tennis courts that were
shown on the existing conditions plan will now be two stacked tennis courts. Um we have two three- tiered metal bleachers for spectating of the uh athletics at the field.
Um the project also includes storm water management improvements. So there are three bio soils proposed. uh one in the north portion of the site, one along the parking lot, um and a temporary bioil on
the south property boundary. And that's going to just be temporary in that when phase two is under construction, that'll remain to um until then to prevent any storm water from discharging to that site. So, the phase two will include storm water features to replace that
bioell. Um there's a stone lined uh swale between the tennis courts and this walking path and then a rain garden on the east side of the tennis courts. Um as I noted before, we do have some work within riverfront area. Uh a
lot of it actually and uh along with other performance standards compliance that we reference in our notice 710 application. Uh we go through the performance standards for riverfront area which can be quite uh extensive. So I won't go into great detail of that,
but I do just want to point out the dark green colors here um are mitigation for the work that is occurring within riverfront area. So ultimately um there's a small patch about 2200 square ft of natural vegetation that'll be
removed to accommodate the athletic field and we're proposing a little over 5,000 square feet of um coastal seed mix to be uh planted there. Um, and just lastly, I don't want to take up too much time, but I just want to go
over some additional storm water improvements. Um, as you see, the bio swelles are highlighted in green there, but in blue are uh the subsurface storm water drainage that will be installed um to
improve storm water management at the site as well. Um there are three subsurface coldtech units uh proposed within the site and subsurface drainage to direct storm water from the bioells and swailes and rain gardens to those subsurface units. And the intent is that
they would store and meter out storm water um along with the tide. So the site is not holding a lot of water during those moments where you have a significant storm event occurring at the very same time as the high tide. So,
um, ultimately that should be an improvement to the storm water management on this site where typically or where currently there's really just subsurface drainage and, um, a few catch basins. So, with that, I think I'll just pass it
off to questions. Excellent. Um the point in which it drains out into River Marsh area over on the what is it the southeast or southwest corner over
there. Is that going to be revamped or is that completely new? I don't I don't know of any existing over there. I'm just curious. Yeah, that's a good question. So there is an existing drainage that goes I think in this direction and the outfall is uh below
the um salt marsh boundaries and in the coastal beach. Uh the engineer didn't find any reason to have to upsize it or replace it. But what we're proposing is um a manhole uh with a backflow prevention valve um that'll connect just
right off the athletic field and tie into that existing um outflow pipe. Okay. That would be a pretty bad situation if we didn't have flow pretorally on that part of the site. Um
okay. How my other question is how long and do you plan on using the parking lot as your lay down area for materials and whatnot and what kind of impact is basically what I'm going to is it going to have on the park and the stuff that
you're not taking out the stuff that people are probably going to want to use. I'm just That's a good question. Um I don't have the time frame on the top of my head or like what parts of the park would be able to be used during some construction. probably not a lot because it would be an active construction site. Um I could get back
to you on the um construction timeline from start to finish, but uh the parking lot itself will be used for construction layown and stockpiling and a temporary construction entrance will come just off of the existing parking lot. Okay.
That'll be stone line to crush stone. All right. And then I'm I'm assuming you'll have some sort of erosion mitigation um on in the parking lot when you I mean you're probably going to be dumping copious amounts of dirt and
other materials um that are going to infill to make the new field and whatnot. I would just be remissed if I didn't say make sure that doesn't get all fully understand. Uh, one of the plan sheets in this large set has the erosion and sedimentation control plan
and the entire limit of work will be enclosed with silt fencing and straw waddles. Y and we'll have inlet catch basin protection. I think there's one existing in the parking lot. So, that'll be placed in there as well. Excellent. Um, any questions from the
commissioners? Yeah, Mr. Chairman through you. Uh, a couple of questions. There's some significant trees in the area now. Are we losing any of them? I appreciate that question. That was something in my notes I overlooked in
the presentation. Um, we are removing 17 trees, but the project is proposing 40 trees. So, of the existing trees, we're going to have a net increase of 23. That's trees. But, uh, can you give me an idea of what kind of growth we're
talking about? Are they going to be 20 foot trees or uh, I'd have to look at the details of the plans. I recall that we have maybe a handful or so of actual like true mature trees going in, but they would be uh typically saplings of a specific height. I can look into that
quickly. Also, do you have the type? Yes, the uh last couple of sheets of our plan set have the uh planting plan. I actually think that I put it in this set. Let's do it. Um, so this is the planting plan that's uh included in our
plan set here. So the planting schedule has all of the uh tree species and shrubs. Uh there's the coastal grass mix that will be uh planted in the rep uh mitigation areas and a number of
perennial plugs that'll be installed as well. You know what your question is prompting me to what I was thinking the trees on. I'd like to know what we're losing for trees. There was some I I was surprised that there was some some substantial, you know, goodsized trees
there up top towards the back of the property heading towards like in the north of the property here. Yeah. So the north of the property actually is where we're preserving a number of the trees. I think I have that in the plan set here. Right. So this plan sheet shows uh
all the trees that are being preserved as part of the project and the trees that have to be removed are shown with X marks. Um that's pretty much in the footprint of the athletic field. Um a number of these like along the baseball field here are pretty young saplings.
They're not really that large. Um these here are larger trees and we can look into the species uh and present that to you uh at the next meeting. Um I'd say the one substantial tree is this large tree closer to the um the river, but um
we could sort of look into providing a little more detail of how the mitigation of the additional trees would offset the um removal of the existing trees. I I I believe what I'm referring to are and I'm looking at your drawing here. Uh
there's one, two, three trees. Uh I wish I could describe it. It looks like a letter J. Uh yeah, right there. Yeah. No, no, right. Yeah, right up there. One, two, three. Those look like substantial trees
when I was making my observations. Okay. I have another question, too, by the way. Uh I've noticed when we were there, I I saw at least a half a dozen people uh going through the property to get access to go fishing on the on the uh
Pines River. Will will there still be a safe pathway for people to access that back river? That is a good question. Um they could perhaps uh continue gaining as access along the shoreline from uh 29 the where
Mills A makes that sharp turn at the old boat house location. There's that gravel um parking area that goes right to the beach. So they're still I have a feeling there's a chainlink fence at some point. I would I think so goes perpendicular to
the river. So that would kind of they'd have to kind of go around the rocks and everything. I'm Yeah. And there's a bulkhead there to also when the when the contractor is selected um they'll definitely need to scope out some uh safety measures to implement during
construction to ensure that people can still utilize land outside of the work footprint but not enter the work footprint. Right now it looks right now it looks like they were just going just south of the uh ball
ballpark to get access. The individuals I saw walking this way. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, they can, especially since the parking lot itself will be utilized for construction, that might um prevent folks from trying to access the
shoreline from that typical location. Um, I believe parking would still be uh allowed on Fairy Avenue, but um again, people could still access the shoreline through um the boat house property to
the south or through Gibson Point through that parking lot up there. There's access the other side. Yeah. Gibson Point just northeast of the project here. Yeah. But then you go through private property. So I think we've done enough of that. Gibson Point. Yeah. There's
portions of it that are public. And my last question, which is more recreational than anything else, was there any thought of putting pickle ball instead of uh the tennis courts? Uh one, you could actually get four pickle ball courts and one tennis court. You'll have
to wait for phase two to hear about that. Okay. Thank you. What's the uh what's the field service? Is it grass? It's uh natural turf grass. Yes. the team considered synthetic uh turf field and that was uh quickly discounted for a number of reasons.
Plus coastal the amount of drainage that you would have to put in to make that feasible in that area would just there'd be a lot of excavation if you put in Yeah, the cost was a big Yeah, definitely. No way. But I'm appreciate that it is going to be all natural turf.
Uh any other questions from commissioners? Yeah, just one um about how long do you think phase one will take once you start start phase one? I know you didn't know the construction timeline of when it's going to start, but when it does start, but how long will it be? Uh well, I I do have an idea
of the start date. I think they're we're anticipating to have the project start this summer, um July or August, I believe, but I'll have to get back to you on the actual length of construction. Do over a year, under a year, just an idea. I mean based on the size of the project I wouldn't be
surprised with over in a year. Okay. So I'll I'll be prepared with that answer for the next meeting. Thank you very much. And just on the tennis courts, what's the surfacing you're using? I know that it's tarmac at the moment, but what's the plan surfacing for there? Oh, that is a great question. um that might be in
a separate plan set, but um I could get that answer to you, but it might be like I would assume just the typical um specs that you would have like a couple inches of asphalt with um that sort of colored uh softer material that gets embedded
with it with some sands but okay flooding sometimes in those tennis courts as well. So it's just to understand what the mitigate against that would be. Thanks. Any other questions from commissioners? All
right. Uh, at this time I'd like to open up to any proponents or opponents of the project. Councelor Garino SA. Um, all right. You were talking about improvement improving the storm water drainage on the site. How is this going to impact the adjacent
neighbors? And how what are we going to do to mitigate the flooding that could potentially occur to the neighborhood? And when you are changing the field to a multi-purpose field, is it going to be
raised? Is the field going to be raised? So, I'm just worried about flooding to the neighborhood. No, I that was that's my first question. Um I don't recall the grade if there was going to be a grade change. Um I know it was an extension of the field and
removal of the that larger tree area. Um but I didn't see anything of raising the grade in the plans if you correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah, I can touch to that. So uh this is the grading plan. It does we are
regrading the site to accommodate the athletic field and um areas around it. The project will require some raising like where the athletic field is. It'll be raised about one to two feet in some areas, but
that'll be mitigated by lowering in other areas. Um, still about a I think it's 1,200 cubic yards um of fill material will be um needed to be brought in to accommodate all of that. Um but that's
ultimately uh because we were planning to reuse some materials from the AAV and just the way the construction schedule is working out that's not going to happen and other conditions at the AAVA. Um with respect to the storm water to the neighbors um that is absolutely a
key component of what this project was keeping in mind was improving Gibson Park but also not making it worse for any of the neighbors. Um and in the spirit of um the Massachusetts storm water management standards um the engineer put together the storm water
management plan, the report, the D checklist, all documenting that the improvements to the site would not displace flood waters to the neighbors with the addition of what is it three bioils on the property. Correct. One,
two, three bio swells, one stone line swale and a rain garden and the three subsurface storage units utilizing natural features or man-made natural features. I'm just concerned about direct butters because if the water does
go to flow somewhere, it's going to flow right into their yards. That's what I'm concerned about. And as far as u Mr. Laval's question about the um pickle ball courts. The neighborhood has asked that they stay as far away from the neighbors as possible because of the
noise. They're petrified of the noise. So, if they can keep them on the other side, let's do that. Thank you. You're welcome. Um, I I definitely think that there is a pretty robust storm water management plan on the property and I would be I would I would highly doubt
that it's going to escape the property uh at this time. Um, just considering how many buffers you have, especially on the south southern portion of it and then on the northern part of it where it's just trapping it from getting from Gibson Point and then into phase two
essentially of the project. um and taking out all the impervious surfaces that you are taking out the path that goes around the current field right now along the river line as well as some of the inner paths that when I was looking around it was probably about
three or four paths that are coming out. So you're removing a lot of impervious surface as well. That's right. And just to put a number to that, uh, the impervious surface that's being removed within the riverfront area itself is about 4,500 square ft overall within the
site. Um, I have that number somewhere on my list. Not that asphalt that's laid down near the riverfront is going to trap that much in there, but it it takes away the impacted. Yeah. And even just taking out the tennis courts and um removing all that overall decrease of
impervious is 23,448 square feet on the site which is a lot about half an acre. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of impervious surface. Um okay. Any other questions from anybody in the audience or any other
commissioners? All right. Um, at this time I'd like to uh call for a motion to close out the hearing. Or do you want to continue this? We would like to continue to the next meeting if uh you're open to it. Oh, no, that's fine. We can continue to the next meeting. I know we had a couple of outstanding questions that I want to
get back to some of the members and yourself as construction timeline and things like that. So, okay, that's I'll be prepared for those for the next meeting. Sounds good. All right. Uh, next up is Rear Squire Road Massie DP file. Uh number
did you vote to continue? Oh, no. We don't. Oh, you don't do that. We're just going to continue it. All right. Thank you so much, Claire. Um this is for a demolition of existing structures and new construction of a multi-level parking garage. Um I don't know if you
guys have your D file number yet. If that has been assigned, it is not. All right. Well, I'm going to open the hearing and we'll have to continue it. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission for the record of Rick Salvotho Engineering Alliance. I here this evening on behalf of RNS Realy
Trust. Um Steve Caruso, who's a trustee of RNS Realy Trust, um is here with us um this evening. Um, this particular piece of land is located off of Charger Street. Charger Street is shown at the right hand side of the page over here.
Um, the Hash Gym is located this side. The DPW is down that way. As you come this way, there's this recently constructed storage facility. Um, and then you get to the the subject property which is comprised of about 2 and a half acres. Um it's uh currently occupied by
two um premium premanufactured steel buildings. Site operates as a contractor's yard. Um it's operated that way since the early 70s. So most of the activities that occur on this p piece of land have occurred uh prior to the
enactment of the wetlands protection act. Um the resource areas uh present on site are obviously the salt marsh. Um that's the rare of the property, Rumny Marsh. Um which creates a 100 foot buffer zone um from that salt marsh. Um
there's also an unnamed river that comes down here which creates a riverfront area um that extends up to this portion of the property, this back corner over here. And then elevation nine is the limit of the 100year flood plane. So about so this portion of the property is
in the flood plane. This portion of the property is outside of the flood plane. That elevation nine also uh delineates the limit of the Rumy Marsh ACC um which also exists on this property. So this is a complete redevelopment. I know we had
a sitewalk there last Saturday. You can see it looks like a lot of this lot is comprised of gravel, but we realized when we did the soil testing out there was underneath that gravel. There's about a 6-in layer of asphalt underneath the whole entire site. So the site is effectively completely paved right up to
the top of slope um that heads down to um the salt marsh. To try to put it to a picture, this is the site right here. Here's the storage facility. Charger Street comes down here. Um Rumy Marsh um back here.
Um and this is this is the access way here. Um this particular roadway in here is about 54 feet wide. Right now, there's a series of catch basins. I think they just have standard sumps. I don't think they're deep sumps. Most of
them aren't hooded. Um, and they discharge to a 30-in drain line, which discharges at the rear of the property over here. So, the proposal um is to tear all the buildings down on site.
um narrow this driveway down to about 30 feet from 54 feet, which will allow us to put in a public sidewalk, landscaping and street trees, um which was required um by the site plan review committee.
In addition to that, we'll be replacing the catch basins on the street, putting in new deep sump hooded catch basins, and we're also going to add a CDS water quality unit prior to the discharge to that 30-inch pipe, which will result in a TSS removal about 93%. So, it's a
significant improvement to the runoff that's coming off that existing roadway. Um the site would then be occupied by a 583 car parking garage, pre typical pre-cast style parking garage. Um that'd
be about five stories high. Access to the garage will be by vehicular access right here. Get access into the garage and go up and down the various levels. Folks will then travel to the rear of the property where they'll wait for a shuttle to come pick them up. The
shuttle pulls in on the west side of the site, comes into the property, will pick up folks, come back out this way, take them to the airport, and similarly um the the reverse of that will happen. Um there will be some modest
filling that's going to occur. The elevations on this site range from about elevation seven and eight at the lowest point up to about elevation 11. Um on this corner of the site, the grade around the building will be elevation nine and a half, be about six inches higher than the flood plane and the
building floor slab itself will be at elevation 10, which would be about a foot higher than the flood plane. This will allow us to go back to FEMA um after this building is built and through a LOMA process remove the building um from the flood plane.
Um this particular use clearly is a lot neater and a lot cleaner than the inherent um issues that come from contractor's yards. Um the way that the storm water management is being handled in the rear is this whole area here will
all be pvious asphalt. It's about a 27 in layer of stone um underneath the pvious asphalt layer that has filter courses um choker courses, reservoir layers. It's a um it's a recognized BMP um from the DP. The reason why we chose
that particular BMP is the groundwater, as you can imagine there, given the amount of fill that's occurred on the site over the years, is pretty commensurate with um the mean high water elevation and the high high water elevation. So, we did soil testing there at high tide and was able to determine
there was about three feet to the seasonal high groundwater table. So with the site grading that gave us the required two feet of separation that we needed to the groundwater and it was the best BMP that we could come up with to keep the grades basically where they
are. Had we chosen um catch basins to CDS to culttech chambers um you know we would have had to add a couple of feet of fill to the site which didn't really make sense to do in this particular area. Um so that that was the BMP that
we chose. We have a pretty robust um construction phase and long-term on and m plan um that we provided for for the maintenance of that as well. Um in addition, as you can see, there's a tremendous amount of green space that's being added around the around the back,
which is going to create a nice buffer um between this parking area um and Romney Marsh. We've got a pretty robust set of plantings along the back which are all native plantings um which will help improve the habitat there and sort of mitigate um any work that we're
doing. And like I said, this we could have done nothing relative to storm water and the increase in landscaping alone would result in a in a net decrease in the rate of storm water runoff and the volume of storm water runoff. But we still put those BMPPS in place um because it's the right thing to
do. Even though this is a redevelopment project, we fully complied with the D stormwater um regulations. We didn't take advantage uh of of any of the exemptions or just meeting the standards to the maximum practicable. We met them
um to to the fullest. So that's essentially the proposal and the way that it it all lays out. Um, again, like I said, I think we have a a use right now that isn't the best use to have directly against a a thriving salt
marsh. You know, having a cleaner use with some more appropriate plantings on the back and a buffer strip between between the two, I think, will result in a in a huge net improvement um to this property um relative to the resource areas. So, that's essentially in a
nutshell the proposal. So, I guess with that point, I'd turn it back to the commission for any questions or comments. Thank you, Rick. I appreciate the presentation and the use of uh pvious asphalt. I I know it's going to be a little bit of a challenge to maintain it during the winter months especially, but um your plan seemed
pretty robust. And did you get any kickbacks from the D yet or any comments from the D yet? No, not yet. Which is obviously we don't have the file number now. Um even if we did have the file number but didn't have comments, we wanted to make wait and make sure we got comments. So, I'll be reaching out to try to find out who the analyst is and
make sure that they're satisfied um with the filing and then we can return back here in June. Okay. Um as far as the sidewalk and everything goes, I think that's a great addition, putting it all the way down from Charter Street to the front of your property, making it a more
standard size street. I know when the construction vehicles were going in and out, it would definitely made sense to have 50s something feet of street, but um making it look more like a neighborhood and considering the location that it's in, it's not going to really for a 24-hour operation site, it
really won't have a impact to residents with lighting and things of that nature. Um, but at this time, I'd like to open up to the commissioners. I did have a quick question. So, how many parking spaces are going to be in this? 583.
Okay. What What percentage would you say is going to be commercial or is it completely no more commercial? It's it's like a park and fly. So, they're going to be people like you and I that are going to Logan Airport and don't want to spend the the central parking fees. You'll drive here, park at a lower rate,
and then take a shuttle to the airport. Got it. Okay. Because I was also wondering, you know, the need in that neighborhood for a 500 plus parking space, but I guess if it's transient, then that makes a lot more sense. Yeah. Yeah. It's it it will be a parking flight. This went before the city council. Had to get a special permit for
the city council both for the use um and the pre-existing non-conforming nature of the building that's buildings that are there. But the only commercial vehicles that'll be in there would be my guess would be someone that has a pickup truck that's leed that uses it as their regular vehicle that would be parking it to go to the airport. Okay. So, none
will be even parked outside. It's just strictly going to be park and fly. Correct. All right. Thank you. Any other questions? Hi. through the chair. Uh Rick, are the sides going to be open on the parking lot, the building itself? Yes. So, so
like a typical parking garage that you see most everywhere, there'll be a parapet wall and then there'll be an opening, you know, from about four or five feet up to the ceiling and that'll be repeated on every level. And the other question in regards to the uh plantings that you're going to put in
the along that that river area um the the state has a a list of acceptable uh growth. Who makes the decision on that? Well, we had um consulted with a with a um wetland scientist when we did
the site directly next door and we continued the same planting scheme next door just because it's we want it to be the same for that whole stretch of um of the area along the marsh. So you might recall when this project
was done, this whole stretch was planted and we're just going to continue the same stream, the same planting scheme for the for the rem of that stretch. So it's they're all they're all native plantings. They're all within CZM's uh handbook on, you know, coastal
plantings, but that's where it came from. Great. Thank you very much. Apologies. Thank you guys. Uh this is a potential notice of violation 20 Chamberlain Avenue uh for a driveway extension. Um, I had an opportunity to
see the site and chat with you a little bit about this and um, I'm was curious what your future plans were if you wanted to proceed with a driveway. Um, yeah, you got to turn it on and then um, identify.
Uh, again, thank you. Uh, and again, I'm going to blame my uh, um, my laps here in in ignorance. I was not aware who you are first before you go any further. Thank you. My name is Juan Sanchez. Uh my wife and I own the property uh 20
Chamberlain. We are new to the area essentially. Uh after serving in the military for over two decades, we decided to come back home. Uh so we purchased the property. We love it. And uh when we purchased the property from a elderly couple,
um you know, the fencing out front did not quite work for us. We have two small dogs and two small children. And so we wanted to build a uh more like a picket picket fence, white picket fence uh that would serve uh would be more
aesthetically pleasing in addition to be more secure uh for us to be able to let let our dogs out outside and let our children go outside without actually uh going out onto the street. Uh so when we changed the fencing uh we actually
exposed about 80 square ft uh of grass area uh that essentially became adjacent to the driveway the existing driveway. Uh over time that area became just an eyesore. Uh it just was ugly, right?
Um, we uh contacted a landscaping uh company uh about what options we had to make it look pretty right to be more in line with the aesthetics we were after uh for the house.
uh we uh the landscape a landscaping company nor I thought that we should need a permit for uh essentially working on that piece of area since we were we were not doing any sort of significant uh digging. We also checked with the
city afterwards uh after the fact actually and the uh the commissioner uh I think Lewis forget uh he did he did actually uh ascertain that we in fact do not need a permit. However, we learned
that uh any uh attempts to cover up permeable permeable areas in a flood zone with non-permeable materials uh requires a permit. So, uh, uh, after, you know, great advice from you and, uh,
and Brian and L and and John, uh, you know, again, we've been going back and forth. We wanted to, uh, go forward with the asphalt, you know, but we are going to keep it a a per permeable area. Okay.
So instead of going with asphalt, we just we're going to try to make it as pretty as we can by using uh uh river rocks uh and maybe pavers as you suggested, the large ones. And so we want to of course, you know, avoid a
lengthy process of approvals. We have three little boys, one that was just born a month ago. We are super exhausted. uh we are running thin on budgets and so we want to keep this you know as as easy as possible keep the
area uh permeable uh and I think you know using the rocks and maybe some uh large pavers I think would you know would achieve the look uh that we you know can live with and perhaps you know remain within the bounds of this here committee. Yep. Um,
I like that a lot. And I think that that would not only enhance, but it would also keep instead of putting asphalt down there, it would definitely have it would enhance the property still by be able to retain that water so you don't change any water storage on your property and do it that way. Um, you
would have to, not sure if this would be an RDA, a request for determination of applicability. I think that would probably be our best course of action because you've kind of already done the excavation of of that area. Um, not that
you had permeable surfaces in there anyways. It would be like you were ripping up your grass. So, I think a simple RDA in this because you're not doing any excavation and you're not doing any changing or altering of how much water storage you have. So, I think um a simple form would be more than
sufficient and I don't know what the associated cost, but it's not that much. Okay, it's we're talking under 100 bucks to file for something like that. And as you can do at peace mail and get it done on at your leisure, you're laying down rocks and putting some papers down and we would definitely take
a peek before you sign off on it just to make sure everything's okay. Um and if you're nervous about that, if not, totally fine. Yeah. Um, but I think an RDA would definitely be your best course of action, seeing as how you're not doing any excavating. That's what I was hoping for. Yeah. So,
uh, yeah. Awesome. Yeah. So, next steps would be to go on to the D website, file an RDA, you come back in front of us one more time, and then you're good to go. Uh, we'll take a we'll do a site visit with the rest of our commissioners. we'll make sure that everybody else is
on on the same page of of what you're trying to accomplish and we will be able to get you moving in the right direction and I thank you for coming in front of us and just explaining what was going on and congratulations. Uh hope you get some rest. We'll see. But uh thank you.
Uh thank you very much. All right. So RDA and then uh do so I submit the RDA first, get the thumbs up and then continue with the work. Yes. So you'll submit the RDA to the D which will come to us. Then we have 21 days to respond
review and give you a determination of or if we can't come to a determination but we will anyways. I got it. But yeah, so you're all set but I'll be on the lookout for your RDA. Thank you. Thank you for your time and your service. Um excellent. All right. So next up is a
notice of intent uh mass D file number 0610841. This is for 1012 Northshore Road. Uh this is for a driveway extension. Um if you wouldn't mind coming up for a moment. Now, just for a little bit of a backstory,
um this was previously paved and taken out and then some efforts were made to refill and make it flat and put grass in the situation. I have that about right for you. Okay. Uh
so for this project um one thing you did do when you put that or put all that dirt back and put all the um concrete bags underneath and not to mention take the asphalt that you ripped up and just kind of threw it to the side. um you
created a lot of water storage and what that's doing is it's affecting it's changes the setup of the neighborhood or setup of your neighbors and you're creating a place where water can go and get stored and then ultimately released
into the neighborhood. So, um, not really sure how we're going to get a driveway extension for you at this point, but, um, I'd be curious to know how you might be able to restore it back to where it was with that natural slope that came off the end of your driveway
so that the impacts are minimized to your neighbors essentially. I mean, I I have no objection getting you a driveway in there. I just want to make sure that your neighbors aren't impacted by doing so. Um,
so I'm not really sure where what our next steps are and if any of the commissioners I know Tom, you were there. Um, El was there and were you there Joe for that one? Um, if you guys have any questions or comments, maybe we
can try to help this gentleman get his property back into compliance. Um because as it stands, what you have in there for retaining wall and for how much dirt you've added
has definitely made an impact. Yep. I will definitely take the drawings from you. So, I'll let you kind of lay out what your notice of intent is about briefly and um we can kind of go from there. Um but
yeah, sir. Yeah. Yeah. I see you. You know, Mr. Chair, I I I'm hoping maybe that the uh owner might have some kind of photographic evidence of what the property looked like prior to the work.
pictures. [Music] Um so you can see the Google what the Google picture is like uh 13 years ago because you know uh we have we will have the
the we have the two parking spot at the front here and then you know like some round like uh some rock there and then uh you know we try to pay it so we can park a car there because we don't have enough space we have like only two and
Then sometime we try to sweep one card there three and then we cannot open the door because we have to try again and think and then uh my buddy say oh we just make another two and then because we try to avoid the ticket all the time but uh now it's a big problem so I don't
know what to do. So uh the instructor tell me to you know have the engineer to draw that thing and then I just go to you know get the engineer to draw that. Okay. Um, so the way that the property stands
now with the retaining wall that you've created with those concrete bags, um, I know that it's worked in a lot of different situations, but it is definitely not something that I'd be willing to allow
in that area, especially you're in land subject to coastal storm flowage, and you definitely have a situation where you've created a a water table. You're getting water underneath your deck which is compromising your deck. And then the subsequently the water that
you've also stored on the property is going into your neighbor's yard as well. And that's like I said you you created more elevation from where you originally had it had it from. So you basically created a water tank um that is not solid and that is not capable of
retaining it or storing it on the property. It just comes in, stays for a bit and moves out. So, what we would what I would think would be some of your next steps is to return the property to its original state so we can make a more
informed decision about what some next steps for you might be in this situation. If getting your vehicles, your commercial vehicles off the street is your primary concern, we need to do it properly. And I'd definitely be willing to work with you on that. Um, but as it stands, the way you have that
retaining wall if that gives way, that's a lot of weight that's going to come down on someone sitting right behind that fence. Um, so I'm not really sure how to May I say something, sir? Absolutely. Um, so right now, uh, speaking to so
right now, uh, you know, every time, uh, um, you know, I think my home is slow and then we have the some pump inside the home. Sometime it just pump out, you know, like sometimes like a heavy heavy rain. We have just only a little bit water, you know, like we pump out
underneath of my my my deck, you know, because when I buy the home, it's have the way set up like that. So, I don't know uh what going on, but it's a very little little um uh water and then of the time, you know, like whenever the
rain water go down, they absorb inside of the uh the grass area like right now. Yeah. because I removed the the the the asphalt already. Yeah. Because uh we cannot uh afford to you know
um try to make anything and then we try to redo you know and then do exactly what CD uh tell us to do. Yeah. So before you did all the modifications to your driveway, before you did
anything to create that retaining wall that you have now, how much water did you have? Uh was it very little? Very little. Okay. From what I saw when we were
looking at the property, the way that you're pumping it out and then your neighbors next door pumping it out. Sorry. It's basically creating a circle of water pumping out. So you get the water on your property, you pump it out, they
get it on their property, and then they're pumping it back into your property. So it's a vicious little cycle that you're in right now. And the only way that's actually going to get solved is if you remove that retaining wall and create and restore the grade that you had. So, from what it appears, from what
I could discern on some aerial views of your property, it started from a gradual slope from the retaining wall from your neighbor in the rear coming towards Northshore Road and then also tapering down from your drive the end of your driveway that you had pre-existing. So,
it was almost like a slope that would go right underneath your deck. So that that would be my first thing is to remove some of the that dirt and that retaining wall out of there to not only return it to what it used to be, but also make it
a lot safer. That I'm just be I don't know how much I don't know how stable that um retaining wall is truthfully. And I and I have a big concern that it's going to fail at this point. you know, you don't really have anything to stabilize it or hold it in place. Um, so
I think your your next steps would definitely be to return it to where it was as soon as possible as budget permits. I know that you said you're running low on money, but removing things is a lot easier than adding
things. Um, the next thing I would definitely can would want you to remove is the asphalt that you laid down to create that driveway. that definitely needs to come out of there as well. That's sinking right into or getting into your the water table. That's oil and I would definitely want that removed
as well. Um taking it off and not having permeable surfaces, you create a lump of things that have, you know, that are impermeable underneath your deck, uh which is also kind of displacing water in a roundabout way. But first steps I think for you and
we'll leave the hearing open for now is to get the property and back into its original state and go from there and see how we can extend to at least get one of the commercial vehicles off the property. I know you have a quite a long
van and quite a large trailer that goes with it and it's becomes a hassle for sure. I I completely understand that. But um we definitely need to get the property where where it was before so that your neighbors are not impacted by your modifications to your property. I
think that's probably our first step and I leave I'd open this up to other commissioners for suggestions um questions comments. May I add another question please? Sure. So uh for for example is a lot of time I heard you say
uh uh that it the water is underneath of my basement. Uh can we pump that water in the sewer or do we need like a permission thing for that? No, you can't. You have to you have to pump it out of the out of the house essentially. Yeah, you you could pump it onto your
own property, but you can't pump it onto somebody else's property, and you can't put it in any discharge systems that are inside of your home. That's going into sewage systems, which is not good. You could have a situation where it would back up into your house now that you have it left basically an open drain.
So, you can't do that. U you would have there are situations in the city where they can't that is allowed, but is under special permit. So, you would have to get a special permit to be able to do so. um which is a whole different process. Please don't do that. No, no, I I I don't
knowecially especially for that area. Any other questions? Yeah. And uh can I show you in here and then because you tell me to remove and then I just want to make sure I do exactly what you tell me and then later on I don't So what I'd like to do is I would like to set up a site visit with you in the next week or
so and then we can discuss onsite a little bit more. Okay, that will be easy for me too. Yeah, it'd be a lot easier. And then we can have maybe somebody from the city engineers office come out or someone else that has a little bit more engineering experience than I do um to
guide us on how to get this done as effective as possible and at as low of a cost as possible to you. Yes, please. Um, but I will definitely be setting something up within the next week or so to make sure that this gets addressed in a in a way that is not impactful to your
um neighbors and to any of and to the city for that matter. Um, but um so any comments or concerns about that about our some of our next steps to try to get this back? I would just say if if you
have the ability to have somebody that you know and feel comfortable with that's knowledgeable in that, whether it's an engineer or somebody that you believe you could hire that could potentially come in and maybe wouldn't be a fortune, but them having that expertise to come in and take out what
needs to be done and to get it to be right and come before us with plans. Because what we need more than anything is for us to be able to look at plans, sign off on the plans, and then forever for your property. If you ever go to sell your property, that next person would be able to then come back to the
decision that was made and say, "Okay, I was allowed to do this. Here's the plans. Here's what it should be." So if you if you can if you have the ability to hire someone that can draw that up, come before us and then we have it all set, that would be your best option because then you don't have to worry so
much about doing it the way we want, which we do. The other person would be hired to do that. So I know it may cost you a little bit of money, but the headache um the pain of having to do it, it would be on the other person. So it's just something to just think about.
So can I ask you a question please? Mhm. Um so um probably I call the uh the engineer and then I ask him to modify you know like the the plan here and then he will bring out another one and he will stay and then after you come over I
will show you the thing and then if you think it's uh it's work out good and then we do that. Okay. No, like like I said, we need to have another site visit uh to address what's currently happening on the site because that is definitely making an impact to your neighbors uh
next door for sure. Yeah. Um and I definitely want to address the issue we have currently before we move on and make another mess essentially is what I'm getting at here. um the the longer your property stays the in the condition that it is in, it
is going to have more and more of an impact to your neighbors around you. And quite frankly, it's probably going to have an impact to you at some point when that wall fails. So to not to save off having uh any other monetary incumbrances on you through damages,
through your insurance, I I would definitely like to try and get this property back to where it was so we can then execute a plan as he was saying to make sure that we have everybody on the same page. The city knows what you're doing. We know what you're doing and it
is proper. You know, we don't want to. So, until we kind of get a look and everybody gets a look at this property, please don't do anything else. I know you're anxious to get you no more tickets or not incur any more fees, but I I do need you to just be patient and
we are we're going to work on this. We're going to help you out with this. I I I can see that you need help with this and that's what we're here for. We're not just here to impose the Wetland Protection Act, but help you mitigate it as well. So, Chair, do you mind if I just make one suggestion? Absolutely. um
when we go to do that site visit if if you do happen to have an engineer or someone that you were planning on hiring the person that wrote up those plans for you there if you still have them on retainer if if possible that person could be there when we're going to do the site visit because I think if we can
talk to them directly at that time in the exact spot where they'd be working it would help them with writing the correct plans and help us having that conversation if that's possible. Uh can I add you? So it mean uh I have to ask him to come over there and then when you
guys come over and then you guys talk and then he draw it and then I I had somebody do the work. You you don't have to. We're I'm just suggesting I think it would help everybody if that person was there at the site visit. But you you don't have to. I just think it would help you. You know, I think I will try,
you know, because I don't want to, you know, keep getting make a lot of mistake because I'm very appreciate everybody come over to the the help and then, you know, I've been stuck long time and uh I
have problem everything. I'm almost hang myself, you know. I I couldn't sleep. I I went to the hospital for the emergency many time already. Now, if I I keep go going like that and then I don't know how to do. We understand. We're trying. You got to understand, we want to help
you. We want to get this resolved. You want to get this resolved. We want to make sure your neighbors aren't impacted. There's a way that everything gets resolved and done. We're trying to help you to get to there. So, we thank you for coming before us because at the beginning, you know, we talk we get, you know, have something clean and then we
do that. But we we jump in like a huge huge problem, you know. So we it happens. We cannot take it anymore. But we're we're all here to get you back on on track and sorry. No, it's don't worry about it. You you can't be
sorry for things you don't know. So we need to educate and make sure that you know for next time. So that's that's what we're going to do and we're going to help you with this. Um we we'll try to find some creative solutions to get this cost down for you. And like like
Commissioner Abeck said, we we definitely would love to have somebody there to it's not necessary, but it would definitely help bridge the gap about what what's what you have and what's next. So I I will definitely be setting something up for you. Um I know you have folks here that would kind of
like to touch upon some stuff, but um I'll I'll give them but we're going to continue this until next time and we'll get this done. But um So I don't know. Anyways, um at this time I kind of want to give um the folks
here to Oh no. And just when you're speaking to your engineer, you should have a talk to them around you said you have a sunk pumping the water out underneath your decking. You should talk to them about dry wells and implementing where the water will actually go straight into the
dry wells and maybe one or two after the other and that might actually reduce some of the surface water there. just might be helpful to stop some stop the water cycle from happening. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great suggestion. The dry well is like uh we we we dig the hole and
then we put like a big bucket out there for the water or crush stone or something of that nature to stone to to basically create a place where it can go. You've already done that with the concrete um um the retaining wall and the dirt that you've done, but we want
to do it underground. That's essentially the same thing you've done. Um, but yeah, that's that is a great suggestion to kind of mitigate where the water is going and retaining it on your property as well. Um, any other comments before I open it up to the floor?
Okay. Um, thank you. I appreciate it. And I'll be in touch. Uh, at this time I just want to open it up to um anybody else in the audience that needs that would like to speak about this. Yeah, you can have a seat, sir. Uh, may I add a question, please? Sure. So, sorry my
last question. So, um do you know uh have like what day you can make appointment and then Oh, we'll I'll be reaching out to you and I'll make an appointment with you. Can you give me a call or something? Say it again. Can you give me a call? Email me or something? I
just just hang around after we we are done and I'll get your information and we and I can set up an appointment with you. Thank you, John. I appreciate it. Good evening. Hi, Mary Napoli, 10004 Northshore Road. I live uh house away
from where he lives and I feel really bad about you know the situation that you're in. It's it's terrible. Um but we are getting double the water since he did that and I know that that retaining wall is not going to hold up. He put
like 4 ft of fill over that. So he had like a um a garden um area that they had built up with um cinder blocks. Mhm. Before he moved in and he Jack hammered all that down into the hole and then he
covered it with dirt and he he raised that height so high and then the the we're all you know the neighbor that's next door to him plus us were getting extra water because of it. I feel really bad that he's in this situation. I really do and I'm glad that you're going to help him and I thank you for that.
We're going to do the best we can to mitigate this situation and for as little impact on your property as we possibly can, but it's going to take some time. Please be patient with us. Thank you. Um All
right. Um if you wouldn't mind coming back up to the microphone. There we are. So like uh the lady just say I have like a break in the cinder block or something. Mhm. But uh as you can see on the on the right
here, you know, before we have like a small um small like a curve here. I can't see what you're pointing at. So I I just want to I'm sorry. I just want to see. Hold. It's all right. You guys keep that one. I'll take this one.
So the cinder blocks you're talking about are were over on this side. I see what you mean. Cuz there's a retaining wall on the rear property. If you wouldn't mind uh going back in front of the mic, that'd be great. Um so in front of the two cars the drive
the pre-existing driveway you have now curve front of the two car like is that is that where you had cinder blocks previously that is like um yeah some uh some cement and that not the cinder block like cement and some rock like this. Mhm.
Yeah. Yeah. And then you know the car the car part like this here you know that like they stop for the car you know. So you had a concrete retaining wall basically creating a basin of a backyard. Is that is that more what we're looking at here? Instead of a
gradual slope, it was a retaining wall for your driveway and then it was a about a 4ft drop to that lower uh was it grass previously when you moved in behind the deck? Yeah. Uh sorry that
that that cup and then you know the the parking sp like inside here higher and then whenever the the rain go down the water go go go out the straight they don't they don't go all the way back there because inside here is higher. So, you know, when we uh That's why they're
good. When when we do the driveway, we cannot uh let the water go to the the neighbor, you know. So, the inside of a bit higher and then it it come out to the to the rope and then, you know, like when the rain come down and then it go to the train, you know. So, it didn't
have an opportunity to get into your neighbor's room before. Because like she say she say my my water go to down there for the people then collect more water but I don't think so. When did you move
in? When did you buy? Uh 20 um um 20 uh uh December 2023. So I'm looking at 13 years ago. Let's say that's 2012. Could you not Could you come up and see this? Could you not park your commercial vehicle like this? This is a commercial vehicle.
Does yours not fit? This This is uh not mine. And then this is the other guy. But you see this is the the rope right here. This one stick out a lot. So that's why you're getting ticketed cuz it sticks out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Stick out. Stick out like that much like two
two foot or more than two foot. Okay. And then uh this is this is 13 years ago. in 2012. Yeah. But how can they how can they ticket him if they can't differentiate? If there's no curb, there isn't there's
no curb. There's no driveway cut delineating it. How can they delineate it? I don't know. I'm not really sure how that that works cuz this whole issue is stemming from him not being able to park like this person parked for years.
Yeah. I'm not exactly sure how much space you had on the retaining or from the what is the considered the end of the driveway. That's a 10- foot box truck, so that's longer than your typical car. Yeah, you have a um uh pickup with an extension on it. I think
he has an F350 on it. The pickup that's very long. I think if he sticks the end of the F350 over the retaining wall, yeah, you could back it in there, but parking is just not I can I can relate to I'll
because if if our solution is bring it back to what it was he just wanted to stop getting ticketed if he can park his FB50 like this truck parked Yeah. then he can just bring it back to what it was and you can put the regular vehicles on the road. Put the retaining wall back there. You had
personal vehicles in the driveway and then your obviously your commercial vehicles out on the street. Um, you have a trailer, I believe, as well. No, I don't have a trailer. Or was it just a longer vehicle that you had? You had a He had a tunnel line van, too. A big one. So, that should that should
probably Those feel like they would fit. It's the frame of the F350. That's why um it should fit. I mean, you put the retaining wall back in and on the other side and just not make the lip at the end of the driveway as high. So, you can
back your car in and get it over that retaining wall instead of doing it that way. Is the retaining wall gone? Yes. No. Uh, did you hammer down the wall? The curve, you know, you knowve the curve, you know, like uh like the curve from the car. Yep. It is only this much.
But you know the curb you know when when when when we try to do like add in another driveway and then I just remove the curve. So you just you just took the top off. So the retaining wall is still there with the top up. So Oh, that makes
sense. Yeah, I I I got it. So this is this was what your yard used to be, right? This used to be grass and there's a wall here. Yeah, that's a wall here. And then so you just chopped this part off. Exactly. So this this is still here. From here to
here is only like uh I think like three three foot three three foot. But but my point is this is still here. Yes. Mhm. So, you're the best course of action is going to be someone talks to parking and tells them they can't be ticketing you because
I don't think they can. Uh, and then you So, this is what you filled in. We have an overnight city ordinance that has um no commercial vehicles on the street. So, that's that's why not not
too much, you know. Yeah. Okay. So, you were just looking to add a foot so you could get totally off the street. Mhm. That's That's exactly what be delineated because there's no sidewalk. So, uh I got it now. Right here. You see? Yeah. If if if you want I I can you know just
cut right here straight and then I get everything out and then I make my my land flat with the other guy land you know like before my land still higher and then the guy over here you know the guy next door he get pump over here and then a lot of water come in mine and then go to my bedroom and then
come you know so so we'll when we do the sitewalk I'll I'll show you some methods to help with the water. Yeah, because the people but for now the solution is going to be okay. So I got here, right? And then remove the fill in and
then the engineer to to to draw like a dry well something here like like and then I come here in my yard. Yep. I think that's solution. I think that makes it so you guys don't get flooded if he has a dry well. I think that's
your solution. Luckily you have someone looking to work to fix it. We have a lot of situations that's not the case. We'll we'll talk more when we come out. Yep. Why don't we give you this one as well? Yeah. Yeah. Keep that for you. That retaining wall is still there. That's
that's most getting the dirt out is is minimal. That's Yeah, that's that's that's a minimal um impact. And um but to your point, Tom, the if he has
the retaining wall, we can put this back in working. Yeah, I think so, too. Okay. And yeah, one for the sump and one for the neighbors. Yeah, I was thinking a fence line, French drain would probably solve the
their problems. And then putting a a French drain underneath the deck so that his deck doesn't fall through. That's that's another concern I have as well. Um, so we we'll we'll kind of put our heads together with our collective knowledge. I think we can I think we can
do something for him. Okay. That's Yeah, we're concerns. I think that would be probably one of our best courses of action. It if they can I mean the people that are going out doing the ticketing they're they're the
ones with boots on the ground and they see it as they see it but maybe he might have a different opinion because there is no delineation and there is no uh established driveway cut on it a survey at night every night to make
sure his property yeah the the lowhanging fruit is something that they're going to take advantage of oh I'm are. Apologies. Um that's the third time we're in trouble. We're totally in trouble. Um anyways, so so
moving on, we're going to continue this till another time. Thank you very much for being here and providing some com feedback as well. Um and I appreciate all the feedback from the commissioners on this and thank you very much. Uh so moving on, we did have some site visits.
Uh we visited Gibson Park, uh 23 Frank, 29 to 33 Putnham Road. uh the cleanup at the end of Putinham Road, 1012 Northshore Road, 30 Floyd Street, and the rear uh Squire Road uh near 320
Charger. So, we had a quite a robust um site visit scheduled this past week. Um we did have some communications about Beverly the notice from the D uh notice receive uh for the amendment to um of certificate of
inclusion. Um I won't get into that but they we had a communication for them as well and then a notification our notice received uh from Nick Rystrom um and then our acco uh permit letter.
So, we had a we had a few communications that came in as well. Um, but at this time, I'd like to open up for some open discussion so we can maybe Mr. Chair, could you could you elaborate on the Beverly Street uh notice that you got from D? So that was basically the
communication that we sent out to them that they are going to be that we are going to be leaving it in their purview uh to make a determination of applicability for any projects or anything coming up on that site. Just leave it in their court.
Uh they kind of took it over after we had a no decision for that property. I think it was 2023 or 2022. I can't remember exactly when but um since then they have been um advising anybody who has come up with
that. So that was the gist of it. Um, so at this time I'd like to open it up to for any discussion if we have any other if we want to discuss anything else about John's property or do we want to leave that till we kind of take a walk
down of the site and get a real like dig into it a little bit. I maybe we can get some shovels and uh see if your retaining wall is viable at this point. Um, I think we wait. Yeah, I think we'll I think we'll wait is right. Um, so at this time I'd like to call for a motion
to adjurnn. I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Second. Second. All in favor? I Thank you very much.