All right, welcome everybody to this evening's uh conservation commission. Uh if all that wish to do so, please rise to salute the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible and justice for all. >> Thank you. All right. Roll call. Um Tom Carlton and um
um Brian Averach are not here tonight. Uh Joseph Lavali. >> Yeah. Uh Wilson Carrera >> here >> and Bernardo is here and Nicholas Rudolph is here. Um for the record, uh Amelia Visqueke is no
longer a member of the River Conservation Commission for some um clerical reasons. I'll leave it at that, but um we will be working on replacing her shortly. Um, first up is just review
and approval of the meeting minutes. Um, any changes, additions, corrections to the minutes from last time? >> No. >> Make a motion we accept the minutes. >> Second, >> I. >> All right. All in favor?
>> I. >> Excellent. All right. First up, uh, we have Millsav and Bell Isle Marsh. Uh this is two locations and this is a request for determination of applicability. Uh this is for an installation of flood
monitoring uh alert systems and the applicant is the city of river. Is it? >> Yeah, I heard the door squeaking. All right. Excellent. There we go. So, if you wouldn't mind um stating your name for the record. >> Hi, Kristen Homemire, resilience
manager, city of River >> and Justine Rooney, coastal scientist, Woodsole Group. Um we are here to talk about a really exciting project that has been a year in the making. Um last year the city of Ravier received a CZM or coastal zone
management uh coastal resilience grant and we looked at short-term strategies and long-term solutions to um to sorry I can't speak right now. Uh short-term strategies and long-term solutions to address all the flooding that happens in the Beachmont neighborhood. um
specifically Pearl A, Crystal A, and Summer Street. And what we heard from residents during that uh engagement process last year is that everyone was asking like what they can do to help them move their car before either a sunny day high tide flooding event or if there's an extreme precipitation event
and there also happens to be a high tide. We heard so many so much from residents about how their cars kept get on getting flooded. So for a phase two of this project, we wanted to look at um what can we do to help residents move their car? And so we uh came up with
this project to put in early flood warning sensor systems to help residents move their car before a flooding event happens. And we ended up applying to two different grant programs for it. And we got two different grants to fund this project. And so we decided to expand it
to Remny Marsh as well because we know that there's a lot of flooding in the Oak Island, Riverside, and Point of Pines neighborhood. And so our current project is supported through the MAPC or Metropolitan Area Planning Council's accelerating climate resilience grant
and the CZM FY26 coastal resilience grant. And we just want to develop a flood alert system for the neighborhoods abuing Bal Marsh and Remny Marsh. And we are hoping that this tool can respond to like different flooding events and help residents be more prepared and move
their cars accordingly. Um we also through this project are hoping to um look at utility elevation assistance program because we also heard from residents that um flood insurance may cover the cost of replacing different utilities but it doesn't help with the
cost of raising utilities. And we're also hoping on spreading more flood risk awareness programs for residents in Rivier. Um with that um I'm going to pass it over to Justine to talk more about this program. >> Yeah. So when we look at these areas we have
been studying both the project in Beachmont was this past year but we've also have been through the help of El Baker and Spar in the neighboring communities also been looking at the Rumni AR Rumni Marsh system. And when we think about these two areas, I think
it's important to note that people commonly think about flooding most when there's going to be a big storm. But both of these residential areas are also experiencing flooding, what we call sunny day flooding events. So these are flooding events when you might not typically expect flooding because it's
going to be a storm, but it has to do with the lunar cycle in high tides. Tomorrow, as an example, Kristen will be going to Millsav to a low spot to look to see if there is roadway flooding because the tide is high enough where the water might touch the roadway. The
winds are going against, so it might be okay. But that's how frequent this is. And so, a lot of these residents along both areas have been clamoring for help. Commonly, we think help is a structure that's going to keep water away, but this is more of an approach of how can
we live with the water and live with the changing tides. So, one of the approaches we're going to take are these Honu ultrasonic sensors. They are small, non- intrusive, don't make any noise, don't put off any light, and they are going to look at the
distance between the sensor and the water surface using radar. These sensors are mounted above the water. They do not fill, remove, dredge, or otherwise alter any portion of any resource under the Wetlands Protection Act. And this is an
example of a mounting on a bridge that will be relevant in a minute. Um, so we're here to look to seek for an RDA to document the minor activity with no significant impact to the wetland resources. um they're minimal in nature and they're
non-invasive and they're really just looking to monitor. This shows the size. So you can see they're about 36 cm in height. So they're quite small. They're small by design. We don't want anyone to tamper with them or notice them. So really they're supposed to be kind of
hidden and work with the infrastructure that's already in place. Uh when we look at the Bell Marsh system, you can see oh the blue is not showing up very well, but you can see this little blue triangle over on the Bington Street Bridge. That is one of
the locations. And then another location is over on Pearl A where it will be mounted to an existing utility pole. Over in the Romney Marsh system, we will be putting a tide gauge on an existing
structure that kind of juts out along Mills A. And then the other one will go to a utility pole. Either the utility pole right next to Gibson Park or the street to the left of that is actually the spot where Kristen's going to go out tomorrow that it seems like water
actually touches there potentially first. So between those two locations, but again all of the sensors are designed not to get wet and so they are not going in any of the resource areas and none of the mounting will impact the resource areas as well.
One set of the sensors like I talked about would be mounted to utility poles. Those are overland sensors. Those look at the distance between the sensor and the roadway. We're looking to see if there's water on the roadway. So they look to go in the lowest spot in that section.
And we're hoping to also put signs, develop signage with QR codes for residents to be able to scan if they do notice them. First of all, saying, "Please don't tamper with them. These are important to us." But also, if residents want to learn more about why these sensors are here, that would take
them directly to a landing page to be able to understand more about the project and how to sign up for the flood warning alerts. The tide gauge sensors are going to be mounted, like I said, on the Bennington Street Bridge. which I know all of us were there the other day. And then that bulkhead structure which
is owned by the city of Revier along Milsaf. When we look at this data, I just wanted to highlight because we talked about this on Saturday. There's two different types. The water levels on the left. You can kind of see that it shows you the crests and troughs of the different
tides, high and low. And then the water depth, you can see on that picture on the right hand side, that is an incidence where there was water on that roadway. So this sensor is up in Salem. You can kind of see it on the lefth hand picture. There's that faint orange line.
I'm going to show you a more zoomed in version. That faint orange line is what we're looking to develop as a part of this project. That would be a threshold. And you can see Salem Harbor is anyone who has already signed up for their text alerts is getting a text this week
saying there's high tide predicted in the next coming days. And this would enable residents to make informed decisions about when the high tide events are likely to be and that when they should ideally remove their cars from the roadways or think about if they're also getting water through the
subfloor of their basement. You know, oh I put those buckets on the floor after Christmas of all the decorations. like I need to get down there and move those. So, this the goal of this is really to enable residents to sign up for text alerts with a platform that's already existing. There are sensors all over the
city. Uh Nick had asked kind of about cost and how this will be designed in perpetuity. So, the sensors are covered by the all four sensors are covered by the grant this cycle and then the planning department has committed to fund the sensors in perpetuity. will
only have to fund the two overland sensors, the two that are mounted on the utility poles. Those ones will be funded. So, it's about $5,000 per sensor per year. And that's really not for the equipment itself. It's more for the data platform. That data will all be stored
on the Honu website, but it is owned by the city of River, and it can be open source as well, so other neighboring regional communities can use it as well. I know Nick had mentioned, you know, could this inform other sections of Rivier or could Lynn use it Winthre the
residents over along Morton Street? We would hope that they'd also benefit from this as well. So, the goal is really to just have more data, more information. Um, our meteorologist has already been plugging away and I think it was something like over the past 10 years,
Mills A has experienced 400 if if the data matches what we're then going to find with these censuses, it's flooded 400 times in 10 years, which is considerable. So, it's great for us to be able to have hard data to also show grant bodies that, you know, the city
has been doing a great job of capturing a lot of state grant dollars, but continuing to be able to show evidence of why we need more is important as well. So, that was a quick overview. We're trying to go quickly, but I can come back and answer any questions you have
>> in the beginning. Hi. That was very interesting and and so was the uh on-site view that we did and I and I applaud the effort and we can always use more data. >> When you first started your presentation, did you mention Oak an Oak Island site because I didn't see
anything? No, we're not post we're not putting it on Oak Island, but we do feel like there would be a co- benefit to the Oak Island residents because anytime there's suspected to be flooding along Milzav, the Oak Island residents are expected to flood as well. So part of
our outreach would be targeted at the Oak Island residents. The Millsav just provides us a easier sensor location where we're not we're not disturbing anything. those back streets [clears throat] um on Oak Island certainly get inundated for
sure um being that in close proximity to the marsh as they are. >> Um but yeah, to echo what Joe said, I would definitely agree that having more data is a good thing, especially in this situation. I didn't realize it was that many um events over the past 10 years.
>> Yeah, and don't quote me. We'll come back with a report, but I will also add that one of the things we're going to design as a part of this project is a newsletter that people could sign up for that will be run through the North SuffK Office of Resilience that would put out I think we're determining the the rate
but likely monthly like hey there's a likely to be a high tide event on the 18th like think ahead like make sure you're signed up for the Hoo alerts. So we would be able to target residents of Oak Island and others to send out mailings or postcards. We've been doing postcards a lot for our public outreach,
sending it to residential addresses. We're finding that that's really helpful in terms of getting people engaged who might not already know what's going on, >> depending on the catchphrase that you put on the front of the postcard, you know, hey, do you want your stuff to be Anyways, um no, I think it's a really
great idea and um I think because of the minimal amount of impact that this project will have, um I would call to for a motion for a um negative. It seems like a question. >> Oh, so sorry. No, go ahead. >> Yeah, quick question. I saw a solar panel and I'm sure that's how it's
powered off. Are there any like lithium um batteries or how is it keeping the power during night and when it's not too sunny? How is it keeping the energy? >> That's a great question. Um, it is solar powered. I don't 100% know the specifics. I think it must be a pretty
good charge. Um, but it's working in the Boston area because I I don't know how many sensors already are. We will be also checking up on these sensors frequently. Do you know the answer? >> Uh yeah, I actually do because I >> Boston has 10 sensors currently and there's also Justine can talk more about
this, but there's so many other communities in Boston or in Massachusetts that are using it like Yarmouth, Ducks, Salem. I don't know if you want to add anymore, but like >> I think it's a pretty good charge. They've been doing this for quite a few years now, but I don't think it's the type of thing where it powered down. And if honestly if the company wasn't able
to connect with the sensor, we would probably come out right away. >> Okay. Hey, no that's fine. And then I just concerned because lithium and and being so close to the water that's kind of I come up with the question and yeah I'm just kind of curious how is the data upstream from the sensor? How is it uh
cellular or how is it I just kind of curious how the technology works? How is how is it upload? What kind of technology is used? >> I think it is I know you asked about this the other day and I I didn't check on I think it it potentially is cellular. I'm sure their website the Hono website would tell you more. I
included a link >> just kind of curious. It doesn't impact anything, but I just kind of curious how it's uploaded. >> Most of those sensors usually will work off either 5G or LTE signals. And then because of the proximity and because they're outside, it's probably a lead
acid because it can hold a more robust charge. Um, lithium would be a lot more make the unit a lot more expensive, although it's not something they wouldn't do. Um, >> I do know that you asked about how quickly it would take to upload. the minute they're installed, they start transmitting data to the cloud. So, it's
instantaneous. Um, so there's no lag and again, it's all publicly available. >> And that's good for the public to know because I'm sure people will be curious. Okay, I didn't get the alert or somebody will complain and it's good to have that data that it is uploaded uh live pretty much.
>> And we do feel like part of the public education campaign for this is going to be telling residents this just one tool in your toolbox. So if it texts you and says there gonna be water and then there doesn't end up being water, don't not trust it, you know, use it's just another tool to help. And we're hoping
that it can uh one of our stakeholders has been the fire department. So we're hoping to engage with them as well to see how they could use it as a tool. >> I mean just as just as we get ready for snow and [snorts] it doesn't happen just as we experienced today. And um there will be incidents when there's snow, for
example, that will show on the roadway, but they clean that data to be able to understand. >> Yeah. Any other questions? >> No. >> I just wanted to add that we're also like when we get more data, we're going to make a whole like web page toolkit
where people can do it and we'll have more information about all this too. So we can check back with some of the questions that you have right now, too. >> Yeah. >> Good. Thank you, Mr. chairman. No, it's not a question, but uh yeah, it's definitely a great project for for the
city and it's going to be a great tool for the residents. >> We're really excited. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. Um any other questions? >> All right. I think it's a great project. Um I I want to thank our conservation
agents uh for El Baker for leading the charge with you guys and getting this done. And I I think the residents of Milsav will definitely be very appreciative for a heads up um considering the amount of uh events that they have had. But um I'd like to call
for a uh negative determination of applicability for this. Um so I'd like to call for a motion for a negative determination on this. >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Chairman. >> Second. >> I.
>> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Thank you so much. Um >> I I wish you the best of luck and look forward to seeing all the data. >> Yeah, we'll definitely keep you guys in the loop. >> Excellent. Thank you. U next up is uh 26 furong drive. This is a certificate of
compliance for an emergency permit uh for cleanup work over on uh at the gas company or shipping company on for a long drive. Um if you wouldn't mind stating your name for the record. >> Yes. Karen Johnson, Edge Environmental.
We did the site remediation at 26 furong drive. It's um Brewer Petroleum does fuel hauling. They also um allow other fuel haulers to park their vehicles there. And um when one of them was
parking, there was an accident where the uh tank um was punctured and lost gasoline to the parking lot. that's what caused the incident and the cleanup.
>> Um, so from the reports from the um communications back and forth with D, uh, you've certainly done your due diligence and after my third sitewalk of that area, um, I I did notice that it
was very well done. The it's been resurfaced. um the testing that came back, all the borings, especially adjacent to the water or the ditch that's behind the property, all came back clean and you know, thank God for the the clay that was underneath the ground that contained
it. So, it made your remediation much much smoother. Um do any of the commissioners have any questions for >> Karen? >> No. >> Okay. um seeing as how that you have all your ducks in a row and I just want to
go on record in saying that your cohort was extremely professional in this entire situation as have you been and I thank you for that because these situations can be very difficult. Um >> but uh at this time I would definitely like to call for a motion uh to close this out for them to um issue a
certificate of compliance. So motion to approve the certificate of compliance for this. >> I'll make that motion, Mr. Chairman. Second, >> I second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Um we'll be following up and we'll have
uh to close up the paperwork and we'll be in touch. But thank you. >> Issue the certificate then I I will um record it at the registry and return your copy. >> Appreciate that. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Have a good evening. Um next up is uh
Nine Dun Road. This is a certificate of compliance for a resident um that had a notice of intent back in I believe it was 2007. Um it had expired. They did not complete the work. Uh the work that they did do
when we were on the site visit was to confirm what they did was in accordance with their um order of conditions. And aside from closing off the flow flowth through foundation with some plywood, it
was as it should be. Uh we did I did a follow-up uh site visit yesterday at 4:30 and all of that rain that we got and they did indeed remove all of the plywood on that um foundation. So the
foundation is completely flow through. They didn't even put the lattice uh the white lattice that they had. They didn't even put that back. So, um, as far as I'm concerned, seeing as how that their structure is up on pilings as it should have been, um, they did not complete all of the addition, but it is to code. It's
sealed up. It's the site is stabilized. There's no evidence of construction. Um, and I'd like to just get this off the their plate so that they can sell their home. Um, do you guys have any questions for me about anything that I observed or
Okay. Um, so I would like to call for a motion to um approve this certificate of compliance 49 Dun Road. >> Yeah. Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I. All right. Thank you very much. Those
must be too close. What's going on with it? Okay. Um, last but certainly not least, uh, we have 76 Endicott A. Uh this is a continued business for notice of intent D file number 0610852.
Um if you guys wouldn't mind coming up. >> Good evening. >> How you doing? If you wouldn't mind um saying your name. >> Uh Daniel Canero and I'm representing my mom Nelly who's the owner of the home. >> Excellent. Thank you very much. and you are
>> my name is Elgas con constructor. >> Okay. Um so I'm a little I'm a little perplexed about what to do next and the reason being is on the sidewalk we had I mean
the the spread out construction rubble you know we told you guys not to do anything until we kind of got this sorted out and I can appreciate that and I know you'll remove it. The bigger concern I have is that when you dug the hole out, took the stones out, that there was construction rubble under
there, not 18 inches of crushed stone. Now, to make up enough of a French drain to probably compensate for that or whatever, the the fact still remains that there's construction rubble in there that's going to seep into the ground. There was brick, oblong stones,
concrete. I saw some asphalt in there. It was I don't want that leeching into the ground. And truthfully, I'd like it taken out and made right. I I want you guys to have a French drink back there. I want you to have a place for the water to go. I I want you to make sure that what you're doing back there is going to
help your neighbors, you know, and then also being able to put that French drain in the back. I don't know if you guys have updated plans from um last we were there. >> Yeah, so we do have a PDF version. Um >> Okay. And it has I had I guess I had a
question. Um I know you requested a French drain in the back. >> Would a trench with the 3/4 inch um watch stone suffice or do you want the full French drain? >> No, I'd want to see a a full French drain back there because if you remember the retaining wall that was back there
was stopping a lot of your water getting into your neighbor's backyard. >> Correct. you know, you kind of took out that situation from happening now and the way that because of how much low lowerlying they are, it's it's only natural for the water to just go onto their property and we want to make sure
that we not have that happen. Okay? >> Especially when we have title events and raising water tables because of all the rainfall. So, >> want to make sure that that gets stopped and and truthfully, it'll definitely smooth over relations for sure. >> Not a problem. >> And I and I know you guys are willing to
do that. Um, but I definitely want to make sure that we have updated plans that um that all gets taken out. And what I'm going to recommend right now is that um we impose a special condition so you guys can get to work
>> and actually start ripping it out. >> Um but yes, one of the things that I want to make sure that we do is once you get it all ripped out, have another sidewalk down. >> Yep. >> Make sure it's all cleaned out. all of the fill that got spread out, all the stuff that's underneath the blocks, um,
all removed. I want to make sure it's all gone. >> Okay. >> Once that's done, >> y >> then I want to make sure that we have clean fill. I want to have certifications on file for all the fill that you put in. The dirt, >> the washed, crushed stone, all of it.
>> That part we need to do. It >> the fact that we're starting off on kind of the wrong foot doesn't really give me the best impression. I know you're trying to do what you need to do to save money and get the project done, but I need to make sure that we're doing the right thing, too. >> Completely understandable and we'll take it that phase. So,
>> I I would appreciate that. And um as far as other commissioners feelings on this, I'd like to get your input if issuing in order of conditions with some special conditions that we would be returning to confirm uh some of this
work and that we get certificates of clean fill that's getting put in there. I'd like to know the temperature over there about approving this notice of intent with those stipulations attached. based on the visit I think um u your recommendations are
well funded and um yeah I think it's a it's a good way to to make sure that they they doing the right thing. >> Yeah. No, I agree. And it also gives them the ability to really start work >> really getting things done, cleaning it
out and being able to actually get see this come to fruition and be celebrating on it in the spring. I I really want that for you and I don't really and I don't want to hold it up because you can definitely get a lot of excavating done before the ground freezes. Um you probably get those stones laid back out too. >> Yeah.
>> Um French drains dug, fence put up like you want. So um >> I would definitely impose the a condition that we would be following up before any work. You know, we usually do a pre-construction >> uh site walk down before anything happens. So we're going to do this a little bit differently. So, we're going
to have kind of a >> post and pre >> Yep. [clears throat] >> uh construction meeting for this. And then um also we just want to make sure we're going to add in certificates for your clean fill. >> Okay. >> Go ahead.
>> Sure. If you wouldn't mind getting up and I I just want to make sure it gets on the record. Thank you. Will >> just to be clear on the issuance of the order of conditions. Mhm. >> Um will you be requiring us to have the
amended plans in house before we issue those? >> Yes, I I would definitely we we would file it after the the amended plans come in. So I need those ASAP. Okay. >> Um and yeah, no problem. >> Um so yeah, so we would definitely need
amended plans coming in. Um I'm not sure what you decided about the driveway if you were going to extend it with pavers or what are you going to be doing? >> Yeah, so that was my next question. So, thank you for clarifying that. So, um so we'll do the French train in the back. Um we were hoping is it if it's okay to
run the entire patio uh with pavers and leave I guess some area in the surrounding fence. >> Yep. >> So the area where you currently have the patio, if you extended the blocks over to kind of continue the driveway, it's in it's not a um impermeable surface if
done correctly, >> right? Um, we would definitely have to confirm that and I would want it a part of your plan. So, you're not adding more impermeable surface. You're actually just making it look nicer on the top. >> Awesome. So, the the Oh, sorry. >> One one last thing though. I know you guys said you were going to put stone
over it. Is there any way we can kind of convince you to maybe put grass or something that's a little a little more vegetative back there to kind of soak it up a little bit? >> Like the very back. You're saying? >> Yeah. Like just over the French drain and stuff. You said you guys were going to just spread stone down. I'm sure
it'll look nice and I'm sure it'll permeate. Water will per permeate great. >> Um but having some sort of vegetation will hold the soil in place. It'll help with water mitigation >> in the area surrounded the French. >> Yeah. Okay. >> It it'll definitely help a lot. I I
would advise highly advise to do that. >> Um it'll it'll hold the soil a little bit better. And this is just surrounding the French drain, more or less, just a little bit >> from the edge of the patio covering down to the fence. It would just hold your dirt in place a little bit better. It would help with um sheeting and all of
that stuff. So, it would help with a lot of things by putting vegetation, not rocks back there. >> Okay? >> Not a requirement. It's there's really no performance standard. It's just however you want your yard. I get it. But I'm just recommending >> put something with roots because it'll hold your property a little bit better.
>> Okay. Um, so then so that being said, with this update, then I will have to reddraft the the draft we have right now. >> Yeah. >> Um, and then we did to put the fence line, the asphalt line like you asked. So we have that. We ran the pavers. >> Um, and then we just have to make that final adjustment on the TRA on the
French train and then >> talk to my mom about the uh the grass. >> Yeah, I would I would I would see if you can be persuasive. Um, it it'll just it'll save you in the long run. Rocks move, grass won't. >> Just saying. Mhm. >> Anyways, um that being said and all the
stuff that we've spoken about, any other remaining questions from the commissioners before we close the hearing out? Nope. Okay. Uh seeing as how your party is the only one in the audience, I don't think we have an opponent. Um and I'm sure they they would love to get up and
speak uh in favor of this project. Uh so at this time, I'd like to call for a motion to close out the hearing. I'll make a motion to close the hearing. >> Uh second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I.
>> Excellent. All right. Um so with with a few special uh conditions, I think that this would be good to get this off of our plate and uh we'll definitely be keeping a closer eye and um now they know. Um and for any future projects
that you want to do, anything >> make sure you see us. >> Yep. Absolutely. >> Um, so at this time I'd like to call to for a motion to approve the notice of intent for this uh reconstruction of their backyard. >> Motion to approve.
>> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> thank you very much. So we'll do you have any >> Yes. have to clean out any time or we have to wait for approve the plans.
>> No. So you your order of conditions is approved as of right now. Um and and we won't file it with the D until you provide that amended or updated uh site plan for us. And that will be the last little hurdle. So the quicker you get
that in the quicker we can file. um they will review and then they will issue an order of conditions formally from the uh D and then you officially but we have we you can start the excavation and getting those stones and don't chip any of them up though they're
expensive. >> We have some pallet right there. I want to just move everything now. Then we can pick start picking up the the >> Y >> uh >> we can start to do that one or >> Yeah, you can you can start excavating at this point. But um if you really want
to do it official and do it correctly, you would you'll wait for your >> I want to take everything out before I start to do the job. >> Oh yeah. No, you you will have to. And as soon as like I said, as soon as that all gets done, >> I want to make sure that I'm there to see it all. So, we're we're going to take out all all the field that you
don't want and then we'll stop there and have you come in and then we'll reset and start over. >> Perfect. That's exactly what I I'd like to see. But thank you guys for your time and um >> good luck. >> Okay. [laughter] Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Thanks everyone. >> Um so we had some site visits today this
uh past month. Uh it was the River High School site uh discussion approval of water quality units uh which uh they were no drastic change. It was just a plugandplay and officially I'd like to go on the record in saying that that um plugandplay is good. I will email him
tomorrow and make sure that he does that or knows that. Uh so I just want to get it on an official setting before we did that. Um Nine Dun Road, happy to close that out. And then the Millsab stuff I think um that'll be a great addition to
our repertoire for information. Um, other than that, any uh open discussion items that you guys would like to discuss? I know we kind of talked about having some subcommittees uh to address some overarching issues that have been happening, you know,
notice of intents after the fact and whatnot, but um we will definitely reconvene. Hope hopefully the holidays are nice and uh quiet for everybody. But at this time, I'd like to call for unless you guys have any open business you'd like to discuss, a motion to adjurnn.
Make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> Thank you.