All right. Good evening everyone and thank you for uh attending tonight's conservation commission meeting. Uh all that wish to do so please rise and salute the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Uh, roll call here. Um, Brian
>> here, >> Joseph >> here. >> Bernardo >> here. >> Uh, Wilson >> here. Uh Tom is not in attendance tonight and that and Nicholas Rudolph is here. Um so we do have a quorum. Next up
is a review and approval of the meeting minutes from last time. Any additions, changes. >> Make a motion to approve. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> Excellent.
Uh some new business. uh D file number 0610314 320 Charger Street. This is for a certificate of compliance uh request for order of conditions in 1999. Um thank you uh Mr. Jim Mo is the
commission for the record, Rick Salv with Engineering Alliance here this evening on behalf of RNS Realy Trust. This is probably more administrative um than anything else. Um this order of conditions was um issued like chair said
in 1999. It was back when this parking [snorts] lot that was recently constructed, approved and approved by this commission um was a crushing yard. They were required to build a detention pond. that detention pond showed up on all the asbuilts that we submitted
during the during the parking lot. It ends up in the over here in the middle of the parking lot right now. So, it's since been completely redeveloped. That detention pond is gone. Um so, uh we're just trying to complete the chain of title. There's an open order of
conditions for this that needs a certificate of compliance in order to be able to close it out. So, like I said, this is probably more administrative than anything else, but that was the crux of the um of the filing back in 1999. >> U Thank you, Rick. I appreciate that. Um
after walking down the property on Saturday, and we've been there a couple times now at this point, um the it's in great condition. the the way that the current um owner keeps it with the retention wall, uh the robust storm
water management system, I don't see any reason why we can't close this out. Um and I would definitely call for a motion to approve this um certificate of compliance. >> I would make a motion to approve the certificate of compliance. >> Second.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I Thank you, Rick. I appreciate that. Thank you. >> Um, next up is uh DP file um 0610742
also for 320 Charger Street and this is for a certificate of compliance request for order of condition in 2020. >> That is correct. Thank you again Mr. Chairman members of the commission for the record Rick Salvo with Engineering Alliance on behalf of RNS Realy Trust. again requesting a certificate of
compliance for D file number 061-0742. This the work associated with this certificate of compliance was the retaining wall that you see along the perimeter of that parking lot. That retaining wall was permitted first
under its own order of conditions. Then when the entire parking lot came into play, that same exact retaining wall was repeated on those plans. those plans got certificated compliance. Some reason this one never got signed off. It was
the same wall that got approved under the under the previous DP um D file number for the entire parking lot. Um so again, we're just looking to clean up the record here. You saw it on the site visit. It's existing in good shape. All
the landscaping was put in behind it and thriving. So I guess with that, again, I'll turn back to the commission for any questions or comments. Um, I don't have any questions about it and um, as I said earlier, um, we definitely have seen
this property quite a few times and, um, it it is in very good condition. They they keep a very pristine parking lot. I I didn't even see a piece of trash back there in that parking lot. >> Much cleaning use than what was there, for sure. >> Yeah, absolutely. And I'm looking forward to uh the rental place going in to kind of complete the whole aesthetic
of that area. Um hopefully Republic can clean up a little bit over there on the other side of the street or the other side of the property, but that still remains to be seen. Um but any other commissioners have questions, comments, concerns about this closing this out?
>> No. Hearing none, I'd like to call for a motion to approve this uh certificate of compliance. >> Motion to approve certificate of compliance. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. Thank you, Rick.
Uh, next up, uh, if you might as well just hang out right there, I guess. Um, what do we have? So, this next up is, uh, D file number 0610789, 451 River Beach Boulevard. This is for a
I mean, no, 451. >> 451. Yep. >> It was a typo. Um, and this is for our certificate of compliance for a 16 unit building. Correct. >> Excellent. Um, and this is uh I I will say this before we get going. Um,
driving up to the property, you didn't even know it was there. You would have thought it was there for a hundred years. So, good on you guys for doing that. Um, but yes, I'll let you close this out, Rick. >> Sure. Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, members of the commission for the
record. Rick Salvo Engineering Alliance here on behalf of Anthony and Nico Dessory. Um, we're the owners and developers. If you might recall, this building had been there for a long time. It was an 8-unit building. They they added um stories [clears throat] above and had to put a small addition in the
back to accommodate an elevator. Um we created a pvious parking lot with pvious asphalt. I'm over here to accommodate the the parking for it. Um which was done in the flood plane. So the the parking lot expansion which met the um D
stormwater regs by virtue of the previous pavement um and the addition required the fil have a notice of intent. The work has now been completed. Um so we're looking to get a certificate of compliance to be able to close this project out.
>> Absolutely. Um so walking down the property the uh everything was stabilized. It it looked really great. um all of the plantings that you had all in the back the on the side of the building the uh pvious pavement. Um I
wish you the best of luck with that stuff. It's not easy to plow and work with in the winter time or treat, but I thank you for putting it in. And I know that the extra cost to your project was it's appreciated, let me tell you. Uh and walking down the property, it was in
immaculate condition. even from the elevator shaft that got put in. No oil. Still had a an oil separator on the property. So, thank you for going above and beyond on that stuff. Um, I don't have any other questions. It It was pretty straightforward, but any of the
other commissioners? >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I was able to walk the site yesterday. >> Oh, good. >> I I couldn't make it on Saturday. And I was curious about something I saw that maybe you can give me an answer. On the uh south side of the building, pretty
close to the front, there was a uh attached to the outside wall. It almost looked like a a gas uh meter type arrangement. It was gray and everything. And >> the oil separated. >> No, it was attached to the
>> Was it the north or the south side? Uh as you're facing the building, it was on my left. >> Yeah. The southbound side. >> There is there is a gas meter. That's where the gas comes in. There is a gas and they they replace the old one with a newer gas.
>> My question was so now you have a reference point on on the bottom very close to the uh ground. There was an empty pipe coming out about three
inch diameter. It's fairly new, but it had a little bit of rust on it. It's almost on the ground. >> That might be a bleeder for the uh for the sprinkler >> for the sprinkler system. I got >> I can confirm, but I I think that's when
you test the sprinkler system and it >> Yeah, if you wouldn't mind. Yeah, I I wasn't even thinking about it. Paul, thank you. >> Sorry about that. Just if you wouldn't mind stating your name for the record. >> Anthony Dessery 596 for Viv Beach Boulevard. Um I believe I can confirm
this, but I believe what you're referring to is um it's basically an exhaust for when you when you if we ever have our sprinkler guy come and bleed out the sprinkler system if we ever need it bled. Um that's where the the water will come out and be bled.
>> Well, I I was hoping it was something like that. But I feared that it might be a exit for pumpout. >> No, no, no, no. There's no sump pump or anything like this. There's that's not >> We get a confirmation on that. >> Yeah, I can do that. Of course. >> All right. Thank you. That's the only question I have. Other than that, the
property look fine. >> Thanks very much. >> You know, cuz I I took the liberty of walking all around. Nobody stopped me. >> Oh, good. Come by whenever you like. >> Everything Everything looked pretty good. I really enjoyed it. >> Appreciate you. Thanks, >> Anthony. One more question. The So that you're talking about your fire safety
system that was a bleeder for >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm just I I saw that. I'm like >> So if they if they go if they go and test it. >> Yeah. Yeah. When they have to drain the door >> when you have to drain it, it has to the water has to come outside the building. So that pipe is what that's for. So it's not an intake or anything like that. And it's not a sump pump. It's for the It's
for the standing water in the in the >> You can see the um like the you know the little spout that comes out and then that hole down there. I don't know why I just like I walk by that stuff a million times and it's like it's white noise to me now. But yeah, no, I kind of get what you're saying. Um just making sure
that's what that was for. Okay. >> Um I didn't know if it was maybe roof drain runoff. When you said it was a bleeder, I was like, "Wait, >> all the roof goes into the previous aspect." >> Yeah. Yeah, that's what I I That's why the down spouts in the back, you could see that over there. So, okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. And we'll we'll be happy to get
your confirmation on that. And best part is too that that piece is actually outside of the flood plane. So that's even outside the jurisdiction as well. So, >> but we'll be happy to follow up with an answer on that just so you know what it is. >> No, I appreciate as long as we get it on the record, we can put it in with the file and all questions are answered. But, um, any other questions before we
take a vote? >> No. Excellent. Um, seeing as how this is definitely an improvement to the area and all of that, uh, I would definitely call for a mo, uh, motion to approve this, uh, certificate of compliance. >> I'll make a motion to approve the certificate of compliance.
>> Second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> Great. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it. >> Thank you guys. >> Uh next up, uh we don't have a D file for this. Uh we'll open a hearing for it though.
Is uh 76 to 82 River Beach Boulevard. Uh notice of intent for a new development, five lot uh high-rise mixeduse, 80 units with restaurant, retail, and two parking uh garages. Um if you wouldn't mind
You're good to go. If you wouldn't mind, just uh >> Yeah. Yeah. Make sure the mic's on and uh just >> How'd I do? [laughter] Thanks. Good evening. My name is John Tilton from William Surprises Engineering and I'm here tonight for a property located at 7682
um River Beach Boulevard. I think you did a sitewalk last week. I wasn't at the sitewalk, but Chris Sparges our company was there. Um, so I you're familiar with the site. It's it's actually four parts of land about 0.58
acres. Um, it's the Bill Ash lounge site and the Twist and Shake site. And um, it's a redevelopment of the property. Um, the proposal is for a six-story mixeduse residential um, commercial retail on the first floor. Um
so we see the site now. There's two existing buildings I haven't showed in the darker gray areas. Um the gravel parking lot in the rear which is actually through um Ocean Avenue. And then you have some it's some green really more not landscaping but kind of
weedy area back there. Um so it's not in the FEMA flood zone. It's not there's no BVW with 100 ft of it, but we do have the um coastal flood zone which runs along the front of the the wall at the beach area here. And so what that does, it puts a 100 foot
buffet zone which is onto our property. And that's why we need to file with you tonight. So moving forward, this is the proposed um development. Do you have you had cop have you looked at this yet? I don't know if you first time. Yep. >> Okay. So um as you can see this is it's
sixstory um redevelopment of the property be two levels of garage parking. One is the lower level you access off Ocean A and other side on River Beach Boulevard you can access on on this side here. Um
there's about 80 units or so and about 82 parking spaces on the property. And again, you can see the coastal flood zone hunting map um buffer zone runs in that manner there. So, just it's in the front of the property and that's why we again we're here tonight. Um along with
the um proposed building um there's additional landscaping involved. Um the replacement of the of the sidewalk in front of the building along RER Beach Boulevard and also in the rear um Ocean that sidewalk will be replaced as well.
Um and working with DCR they asked us to you know not just a concrete sidewalk but some landscaping um amenities as well. These green areas represent planters uh more greenery in front of the building on Rivera Beach Boulevard
there. Um the site now from I guess from the top about 16 to eight in elevation. It slopes from here I guess it's north to south. [snorts] Um, it'll be pretty much level off, but the two parking levels you can access at different levels in the restaurant,
retail, whatever it might be, will be off the uh, River Beach Boulevard side. Okay. Um, as far as drainage, so the drainage we picked up and we worked with engineering, talked to DCR is um, collected from the roof down spouts and
tied into two catch basins on Rivera Beach Boulevard here and there. And any other runoff on here would head towards Ocean A. A very small portion of that runoff. Um and then a little bit here on Verar Beach. Um utilities will be sewer
water on the ground. Utilities we'll see on the ground as well. Um [clears throat] far as erosion control during construction, we it's you can't really see here. It's on um a plan you have I should have highlighted, but it's going to run around the perimeter. It'll be
either siltation fence or we might use straw water depending on the surface itself because silt fence you can't stake in. Um so whatever the preference of the commission might be we could we could um do either or we have some details showing and those will move
during construction. if there's any um gravel removal, they'll they'll keep it on site and they eventually take it off. But when they've done that, they'll go back at the soils greenery at as the final stage of the of the project. So, I
mean, that's it. So, be happy to answer some questions at this time. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. Um, so have you already secured your permits for the discharge from the on the DCR side of things on the River Beach Boulevard side?
>> So I know so Peter Blazo was was the project engineer. He told me they they met with DCR he spoke with them and I don't know if he actually has a permanent hand yet, but I know he's dealt with them and they um wanted this design. So I can confirm that. I don't know DP file numbers, so we'll be back
here at some point. I can confirm that as well. >> Yeah, I would definitely want to have confirmation of that. I don't know if it's if this is a case where uh you know what came first, the chicken or the egg? Uh with this situation, you're kind of waiting for the concom to say yes so the
DCR will say yes. I I just want to know where we are in the pecking order and where that approval is. if they're on board, I'm fine with that because I would love to not see water, even though it is roof runoff going to Ocean AB, which is considered clean uh by industry
standard, I would love to see it inundate their system, not inundate our system. No offense, DCR. Um the other question I guess I have uh is because of the elevations of the property it's it drops off pretty drastically down to
Ocean do and where you are located on the southbound side um adjacent to that property putting yeah putting like silt fences and catch basins over there is going to be a little tricky. So uh during construction or well during
deconstruction anyways trying to get the site level. So, I would definitely recommend something that is a little more modular. Hay bales, >> something like that on the especially on the southbound side. The rest of the property, I don't think you'd have a problem adjacent to that park putting up a silk fence to keep it out of the
debris out of the park. Uh silk fence right on the front uh to keep the debris off the boulevard and in the back where it makes sense uh considering construction vehicles going in and out. My the only other thing I didn't see um what is going to be the primary entry
and exit for materials being delivered or materials or deconstruction going out um and how you're going to handle any kind of debris that's uh coming in and out of the site. Right. >> So I I don't know if you were going to have wheel washers, if you were going to
have some sort of tacky surface or something like that. things we can redefine when you guys come back and have it a file number, but something that I'd like you to put on your radar. >> Um, and then as the, you know, as the southbound side gets a little more defined, you can
>> probably set up that silt sock and um, fencing. Okay, there. It'll be a little easier to stake once you get it down to grade or where you're going to start grade. >> But something a little modular on the southbound side would work. And then as far as storm water management is concerned, uh the stuff that does come
out on the uh Ocean side, I didn't see any kind of separation devices for that. I know it's not going to be a dramatic amount coming out on Ocean, but I didn't see and I didn't know what uh DCR is requiring to hook into their system. And I know they consider it clean, but
you're still going to have a parking lot down there that could potentially get wet and then cars are in there. So you have dirty runoff coming down and out from Ocean A or onto Ocean A. So I'm just kind of curious how you're going to mitigate that the potential of that as well. >> That's a good question. Yeah. So So the
cover there'll probably be grease grease traps inside itself. But as far as the entrance though, I'll we can look into that. It's actually specifically talking about the entrance in and out. >> Yeah, because the that that'll probably won't have any burming. It probably won't have any protection, right? uh going in and out where the where the
driveway cut will be depending on how large it is. 20 feet I think is the max in the city right now, but who knows if you get a variance to make it larger, but um you definitely have a large opportunity for things to escape on Ocean that aren't pre-treated. So like
having a just a simple line all the way down to like just catch it and put it in a separator and then have something cleaned out in your parking lot, something like that. I know that it's like I said, it's going to be very minimal. Yeah. But we want to mitigate every risk that we possibly can. >> Okay.
>> Um I think that's all the questions I have. Any others for the commission? >> Go ahead. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I I have the same concerns as the chairman. And if I'm not mistaken, this is not the first time this project's come before us.
>> This this specific project >> I I thought there was an issue before. It came before us once before and there was still one an issue with some piece of property that wasn't acquired yet. Well, in any event, uh unfortunately I've been on this board for a long time
and uh I will ask the same question that I asked on the other projects in this area and that is basically where the drainage from the roof is going to go on the uh on the boulevard side as the chairman already raised concerns
about that. So, if I'm not mistaken, the uh drains now basically go underneath the road and onto the onto the beach area. >> That's correct. Right. >> And and again, we're both concerned about
the the possible volume since a lot of it now in that area is going in the back property and towards Ocean A rather than the boulevard. I quite frankly don't know how how it's going to be able to handle all of the roof drain area.
>> Yeah. So we're pay so there is a decrease in purpose area on the site by himself. So the water will be picked up from the roof with down spouts direct right into the catch basins which discharge across underneath um river beach boulevard and into I guess they I
don't really see what they call them the enttrapments. >> They're called sauna tubes that are going underneath. >> Yeah. They have the stone they cleaned out like once a year by DCR. So we've been in contact with them. We also talked with the engineering and uh DPW about this because I think they had same concerns you did. Ocean has had some
problems with with training. Oh yeah. So everything's so under their advisement in DCR they want to see it go as specifically you said this way. So we're capturing it and it's it's bring it to you know discharging into the ocean area here. So the so basically the basins
that the DCR cleans out annually is what's going to be filtering any of the other impurities that the rain water that is captured on the roof um is going to go out to the beach. So that so I guess we're we're taking water that's fallen on a roof that's technically a
clean surface technically >> and that gets directed right into their system which then gets into another filtration system. I I'm also concerned about the the uh the profile there, the volume. >> Yeah. >> Because you have a nice big rectangle
there right now that that encompasses how many different buildings? Three. >> Two. >> Two of them now. >> No, I mean what's there now? >> Yeah. With park in the area in the back and everything else. So right now that rain is just falling into and going
right out to Ocean F. >> Right. So now now all of that is going to be directed into the drains that are going to go onto the boulevard. So again, I'm I am not a hydraulic engineer, but in just in my lay terms, I
it seems like you're adding a lot of volume to what what the boulevard is going to have to handle. I guess I guess the question we're asking is this the current system that they have in place with the DCR are
their engineers, you know, are they adequately think that the system that they have on their side is adequately sized to handle the additional runoff from that instead of it being into, you know, permeating into or percolating into the parking lots and
stuff back there, right? Um, I think seeing something like that or seeing maybe a letter from them saying that it is capable of doing that, that would definitely >> stave off a lot of the concerns that we would have for >> I had another question too in regards to that. Y
>> uh, is DC allowing you to build right to the sidewalk >> straight up >> right here? Yeah. >> Yes. Well, it's >> I mean, they've let everybody else do that now, so I guess they they should allow you to do that, too, which I'm quite frankly not that in favor of.
>> I kind of like to have a setback. They want you to put some greenery on the sidewalk. All they're going to do is take away some of the area that people can walk by. >> And uh but they are going a lot you go right to the to the sidewalk. point of
the zoning. Well, it's more of a a river zoning um issue versus DCR. So, we're within our boundary property. Um so, you know, this area here is DCR owned right away. So, and they took the opportunity, you know, to work with us and you know, asked for replacement of those those
walkways and add greenery there because otherwise we you might have just had all concrete there. So, we're introducing more greenery and which helps with the the runoff and drainage. Like we said earlier, right now the the rain comes out, it just discharges in Ocean A.
Right now we're picking it up and discharging to a catch basin which goes right to the um discharge across the street here. So it's not tied to a long system. We're not carrying it very far. It's just shooting instead of draining on River Beach Boulevard, it's being caught in underneath it and out it goes.
So it's an improvement overall of the uh the drainage system, but we'll provide a letter like you ask from them. I would appreciate that. Just just something to have just to dot all the eyes and cross all the tees with concerning. >> Well, I I have another concern too, a pragmatic concern
>> and this is in regards to all of the building that's been going on the boulevard. Now, if anybody in the city recalls and still in uh going on today, uh down further down on the beach where they're building all of those
apartments, they have had a uh an expansion of the work area so that the everybody has to narrow through only one side of the road. And that's been going on for what, three years now? >> Years. >> It's it's it's precarious. It's
dangerous. and it's a nuisance and I travel it maybe five times a day. So my question to you is are you going to have the necessity of taking up one of the travel lanes on the boulevard in front
of this pro uh property when the construction is going on since you're going to be allowed to build right to the sidewalk. I'm wondering if you're gonna have to expand the construction area to actually a part of the boulevard
and everybody's gonna have to >> difference. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Do you understand what I'm talking about? But if you go all the way down the beach now, [clears throat] >> but just just to confirm from what he's saying, kind of piggybacking off that and he's going to tell you to talk into
the microphone if you're going to have a conversation. U so just just to confirm because what he's asking is is someone who lives down the street from this project >> the two lanes that because it's two lanes and the second any traffic comes up or there's even someone trying to get
into parallel park it backs up forever. Just making sure that those two lanes are going to be clear for people to be able to drive down. That you don't have any intention of of having even for a short period of time of having one of those lanes in front of that blocked by
either dumpsters, trucks, work vehicles, fences, or anything. >> Yeah. The the um the only time I can anticipate that that would be the case is when they are reconstructing the sidewalk to put the plantings and to actually re, you know, put down concrete. I would probably say that the
>> that would be a a much more a bridge timeline to do something like that. But especially considering to piggy back off of all of that where it is on the beach adjacent to the band stand and the bath house that's right across the street the uh intersection of Beach Street or um is
that Shirley out there? Yeah, I think that might be Shirley. >> Shirley. >> Um that's a very busy corner in that area. So, so putting the congestion on the boulevard side would just really chunk it up, especially at the beginning of the beach right there. So, >> um
>> I definitely have a lot of concerns with that and especially put with the construction debris going out onto the boulevard and potentially, you know, where it's going to end up. >> Um but yeah, that's that's something I would love to see and you definitely have a much ease of access in on Ocean,
too. So I would anticipate that that would be where the majority of that's going to go in and out but I would love to get confirmation of that. >> Yeah, you know I can't I don't know for sure we required to provide a traffic management plan >> DCR and it's very specific. I can't I don't know there may be times I just I
don't want to speak for that and ZBA will be involved whether conditions of will block a lane or not and um but like trap management plan sidewalk management plan bike path plan it's all a part of the process to get approval to do this work so >> appreciate that yeah
>> as being a resident ofmon and this is basically my like front yard of where you are um I just have a couple quick questions just even for anyone watching that really kind of wanted to know these questions when were planning to do demolition of the buildings that are currently standing there.
>> Uh, good evening. I'm Dana Lopez, Wakefield Associates. I am one of the principles that's going to be on the property and also the developer of the construction. So, getting back to the the blocking off the lane, we we'll submit a construction plan for every
stage for demolition construction. Uh, and the only time I can see us out on the street is like I said, doing the sidewalks or if we needed to get a crane out front, you know, we would we would schedule something like that. But we're going to leave the boulevard clear. I know it's very busy up there. >> Yeah, especially in that area. It's
brutal over there. >> Yeah. And the sidewalk's pretty big now. So >> yeah, it's a >> we'll just fence off to the boulevard and keep, you know, keep that access in front. We're going to need lifts out there, obviously. >> Mhm. And then for the demolition, when were you anticipating >> demolition? Uh, well, we're waiting to
go through DCR to see exactly when we're going to start, but we plan on anticip we're anticipating starting demolition this fall. >> Okay. Do you know how long the project will be? >> What's that? >> Do you know how long the project will be >> in anticipation? >> Once it starts. >> Once it starts. Two years. >> Two years.
>> Okay. And then once the once it started, do you have an idea of because obviously um Twist and Shake was a place that you know I went with my son, we all love and the owner was before us before about this. Um do you know if they're going to
be given an opportunity to re-enter and take over the one of the retail spaces that you have? >> Yes, I've spoke to Bill Ash several times. I've actually met with them also. uh they're going to get first right on we have a retail about a 1500 square foot retail section in the building then
there's a a larger size a restaurant on the right side of the building but they get they it's it's theirs if they want it >> that's I honestly that's great that you are giving that opportunity um the other question I have for you is in regard to um for the actual like buildout of it
when it's there is it going to are you planning to have it match kind of the local area of stuff you going to keep that in mind or are you trying to do something different when it comes to the looks and aesthetics? >> I'm gonna uh I'm going to just put a plan up if you don't mind.
>> Oh, nice. We got some architecturals. >> Figure, >> you know, if I'm going to be looking at this from my deck, I might as well get a get a preview. >> I would love to. I I saw uh briefly on the site when we were flipping through, but it was pretty cold when we were flipping those pages out there. >> Do you know these apartments or per to
purchase? So, these condos or apartments? building. >> Did he answer? >> I didn't. >> Are they Are these condos or apartments? Condos. >> Oh, that's great. It'll be steel construction up to this level and it'll be wood frame
construction typical of what's happening down there. >> Thank you for for showing us this as as I'm going to be looking at this building for the next hopefully 80 years of my life. Um I just want to make sure it's not an eyesore like the you know the the six brutalist buildings that were there. So, I just had to ask
>> the uh I and I know we said it on the site and I can't remember. For some reason, the the number 16 is floating around in my head, but first floor elevation on the for the site. I can't remember. I I know I asked that on the site. >> First floor elevation. >> Yeah. Yeah. Number nine. >> Uh so,
>> was it 12? >> So, the lower garage is 8.5, the ground floor is 13.3, and the upper garage is 19.6. So 133 would be the >> the >> I guess the ground floor >> ground floor for the the retail and
probably garage entrance area and then where you start that's residency starts. So elevation 19 roughly is where the residents are going to be >> higher than that. Residents won't start too. >> Yeah, I think it's higher than that. So >> so the ground floor would be 133. So be
above that. So like more to 20 something. >> Okay. I'm I'm >> yeah where the where the residents start is where I'm my concern would be. So they they've got a good 20 feet before water really starts getting anything in that building.
>> 15 is the number. >> Yeah. >> Uh what is the flood plane? 13 or something like that. It was the flood plane. >> It's 14. The wall is 155. So that's it stops at the wall. >> Yeah. >> Probably approximately 28. >> Yeah. >> 13.
>> So that makes All right. Um I don't have any other questions. Uh any more from the >> Yeah, ju just a comment during demolition and construction just with the contra constructors just to make sure the debris keep inside like
dumpsters. Sometimes I see the wind taking all this plastic going all over to the ocean. So >> just I don't know if something can be done like a signs or anything to be more aggressive making sure no trash is going especially when it gets windy. You can see large plastic. I pick it up with my
son sometimes and it's just sometimes you probably thought the message but it doesn't trickle down to to them. So just >> if we can be more aggressive making sure they are aware that okay something like >> we could cover that if you want to. >> Yeah, that'd be that'd be great because it when I drive the boulevard every
morning to go towards where I go to work. Yeah. and uh the the buildings that are down at the end by the time you make a call it's it's already blown away into the ocean but you know I've seen rip wrap I've seen those that orange fencing blown into the onto the beach
and then subsequently into the ocean and stuff like that. So >> just want to be like Wilson said a little more aggressive in the retention of the trash on site. It's it's been a little bit of a problem. the ocean a nav buildings not so much but the boulevard stuff that's down the end it's been all
over the place over there >> I'm sure it's windy >> yeah oh yeah well I mean it's a wind tunnel through there especially when they hadn't gotten the major part of the structure up it was really windy there nothing stopping it so just something to think about there >> we could cover the dumpsters at night if you want to make it a condition
>> yeah that's that's something I was thinking especially weekends like almost three days they are without any cold and usually happens when it gets like you say windy >> right >> and most of Those cont are some of them are very careless when it comes to this. So >> I appreciate if you can >> okay
>> do something about Thank you. >> Um I I would love to close this out and take a vote, but unfortunately we don't have a a D file number. So but I do appreciate you exhausting all of our questions and answering everything. And uh I I think we all kind of have our marching orders for the next time
around. And I hope that uh the D file number shows up soon. So we >> What is the date of the next meeting? What's uh what is it? April 6th. >> I can't I can't >> first Wednesday in April. >> April 1st, >> is it? Oh, come on. We got to have an
April Fool's Day meeting. Oh, no. Yes, there is an actual meeting on April 1st. Just let's get that on the record right now. Um so, so yeah, April 1st is gonna I thought it was the 6 for some reason. That might be the following month, but uh but we will definitely see you guys
then. And like I said, thank you for your time today and thank you for presenting. It'll probably go a lot smoother and a lot faster the next time we're up. >> I thought it was fourth on the agenda, fifth on the agenda when I got here and there was nobody here. >> Yeah. Oh, [laughter] yeah. Well, again, thank you and uh we we'll
definitely see you guys again. Appreciate it. >> Thank you very much. >> Appreciate it. >> Um so we have some continued business. Um >> but we don't have >> theending the variance. So it will be >> Yeah. So this is so the uh 36 Glendale A
the notice of intent after the fact is going to be extended uh until the next meeting. Uh we did have some site visits uh 76 to 82 River Beach Boulevard uh 451 River Beach Boulevard and 320 Charger
Street for our conditions. Uh, and we also did receive a communication from the Massachusetts D, and this was in regards to a negative determination about the eastern county ditch and, uh, so things can proceed a little bit easier, uh, that they've
defined it as a man-made structure. Um, so at this time, I'd like to open up for any open discussion. Um, if you guys have anything to discuss or >> Think we're good. >> Good. All right. All right. Well, then I would like to call for a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn.
>> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I. Thank you very much. >> Yeah, we got a couple hooks.