I aliance to the flag of America to the republic to which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much folks. [clears throat] [cough]
Uh the following matters will come before the uh reveal license commission today. This is our regularly scheduled meeting. Uh the meeting is previously filed with the city clerk. The first items on the agenda would be applications submitted for consideration. Item number one, blessed
mother of the morning star at St. Mary's Church, 670 Washington Avenue. Ralph Chico is the event manager. Yes, sir. Step right up. This is an application for a one-day malt, wine, common vixular, and entertainment
license to be exercised at 670 Washington Avenue on Saturday, March 21st, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 1000 p.m. The event is St. Patrick's Day dinner dance for parishioners and friends. The
expected attendance is 95. Can you tell us what like you'd like to do with the license, sir? And if you could give me your name and address, please. >> My name is I live in. >> Thank you very much, sir. Can you tell us what you'd like to do with this?
>> Hit the button. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> All right. Uh what? Just dinner and dance. >> Same thing you've done in years. >> Same thing every year. We've been doing it for years. Thank you. Thank you very much, sir. Do
any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? >> I don't. I the application. >> Very good. I'll close this. Any proponents? Anybody that would like to speak on behalf of the issuing license?
We don't see anybody that sbody see anyone close that. Would you like to make a motion or discuss this further? I can make a motion to approve. >> I'd second. >> Very good. The application for a one day blind picture entertainment license is
approved for blessed mother of the morning star at St. Mary's Church. The entertainment license and other licenses will be exercised at 670 Washington Avenue on Saturday, March 21st, 2026 from 5:00 p.m. to 10 p.m. This is the
St. Patrick's Day dinner dance. Thank you very much, sir. >> Thank you. >> I know you're all set. >> I'm all set. Okay. Thank you very much. >> Item number two, Romero Gimenez Corp.
DBA Olympia Market, 5 Atlantic Avenue. David Gimenez is the manager. This is an application for a common vixular license. The application will be exercised at 5 Atlantic A. There is no requested seating. The requested hours
are Sunday through Saturday, 8:00 a.m. to 10 p.m. Your name and address for the record, please, sir? >> Yeah. Luis Himenez. >> And can you explain what you'd like to do with this license? >> Uh, we will be preparing uh paninis,
fruit salads, juices, and everything to take out. >> Okay. Okay. You'll be preparing them on the premises. >> Uh, no. >> Yes. Oh, sorry. Yes, sir. >> Yes, in the
>> Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much. Do any of my fellow commissioners have any questions or uh at this time? >> So, I just want to confirm no seating. >> No seating. >> Okay. Very good. All right. Well, thank you very much, sir. We'll close this
part of the hearing. Are there any proponents? Anybody else that would like to speak on behalf of the issuing of this license? We don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Anybody opposed? We don't see here. Anybody will close that section. Do you want to discuss this further or make a motion?
>> I can make a motion to approve. >> I'd second. >> Very good. Uh the application for a common victualist license for Olympia Market is approved. That application will be exercised at five Atlantic Avenue. There's no requested seating.
The requested hours are Sunday through Saturday, 8:00 am to 10 p.m. >> Thank you very much, sir. Good luck. >> Good luck. >> Item number three, Santa Fe Burrito Grill Reier LLC, DBA, Santa Fe Burrito
Grill, 60 VFW Parkway. Carlos Etchivaria is the manager. This is an application for an all alcohol restaurant license to be exercised at 60 VFW Parkway to requested seating
to remain at 33 and 16 outside. Requested hours of operation to remain at 10:00 a.m. to 900 p.m. Monday through Saturday and 11:00 a.m. to 10 p.m. The requested entertainment is a radio. Your name and
address for the record, please, sir. Carlos Aaria. >> And can you explain what you'd like to do with this license? >> We would like to sell beer and margaritas as we have in other locations around the state.
>> Okay. And do you sell beer and margaritas at your other locations? >> Yes, we do. >> Um, do any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? >> Yes. Um, the terms. >> Um, you you would be the on-site manager? Yes.
>> Um, >> and how often are you there? >> Every day. >> Every day. >> Okay. Um, and, uh, were you involved with the administration or the distribution of the alcohol service at your other locations as well? >> I'm just the director of operations for
all the locations, but the managers, we have managers in in every single location, but I'm >> my main office is right here in in Rivier. >> So, you're the director of operations. So, are you going to be the on-site manager? Yes, I will be as well.
>> I see. Um, so you you're you're managing this particular location directly >> and you've been a you've been a part of this uh corporation for how long? >> Six years. >> Six years. >> And we never had any issue before. >> Okay. And alcohol service is done at all your other locations.
>> Yes. >> No further questions. >> Uh do you have any questions? >> Very good. All right, sir. Well, we uh we'll close this part of the hearing. Uh are there any proponents? Anybody that would like to speak on behalf of the
issuing of this license? We don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Is there anybody opposed? Don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Do you want to discuss this further or do would you like to make a motion? >> I move to appe. >> I'll second that.
>> Very good. The application for a all alcohol restaurant license for Santa Fe burrito grill reve is approved. The license will be exercised at 60 VFW Parkway. The requested seating to remain at 33 inside and 16 outside. The
requested hours of operation to remain at uh to remain at Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday 11:00 a.m. to 10 p.m. And the requested entertainment is a radio. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, sir. Good luck.
Item number four, Diana Cardona, 108 Beach Street. Diana Cardona is the event manager. This is an application for a one-day malt wine common vicular and entertainment license to be exercised
at the Rever History Museum at 108 Beach Street on January 31st, 2026 from 400 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. The event is a fundraiser for cancer survivor singer.
Uh, expected number of attendees is 30. Your name and address for the record, please. Ma'am, >> Danna Cardona, 23 Harington Street. >> Okay. And can you explain what you'd like to do with this particular uh license?
>> Uh, we just want to help out uh to the girl who's going to be the singer. She's a cancer survivor and she wants to give like a mini concert because she likes to sing as a thankful to her friends and family.
>> Okay. Um, thank you very much. Do any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? >> Yes. Who who are you using to um to serve the alcohol? >> So, we have we have a person um his name is uh he works in the Chao Roma in in
Nordan and his friend is a bartender. So, he's going to be donating his time to be server. >> Okay. Um, and who? So, okay. So, it's not like an outside vendor. It's just someone you're hiring just to >> Yes. Just to be there and help out because most of the per of the money
collected, it will be for her. >> I see. And you said this individual that's going to be serving the alcohol, you said he has experience. >> He has experience. He's a bartender. >> Okay. And we also have other volunteers who are going to be at the door too helping out. Maybe nobody comes out with
the alcohol and and that's it. Yeah. And the idea also will be that good location because a lot of people don't know the museum. So it will be a good way to other people to get to know the place. >> Also took a look at your diagram. I must say your drawing has gotten a little better.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. I see you at the Smith. >> I'm trying. the measurements having problems with. >> I was going to go the other way to be honest. I didn't think I thought the diagram was kind of to kind of poor to be honest. >> No, no, the from her other events. It's gotten so much better. I [laughter] mean,
>> I mean, is there a dance floor here? Is there going to be dancing? >> No. No. Sorry. Everything is like a mostly like a romantic all this Colombian music. >> Okay. Because looking at this, it's difficult to tell how it's going to be laid out >> because it's a it's a it's a rectangle.
One of the corners is going to be like the stage. It's going to be just chairs. And in the back is going to be like the the table where it's going to be like the bar. >> Okay. >> So, no food, just snacks. >> Chess nuts. Prepaid money nuts. You know, they have to be there.
>> All right. Well, thank you very much. We'll close this. Do you have any other questions that you'd like before I close this part of the hearing? >> No more questions. >> Uh, I'll close this part. Are there any proponents? Anybody else that would like to speak on behalf of the issuing of this license?
Your name and address for the record, please. >> There we go. Yes. Um just a proponent of support. this is uh you know something that supports community um established business owners circulating further commerce and uh fundraising for the
community. So um they have my full support and I just wanted to show it. Thanks. Well, >> thank you very much for that. We appreciate you coming in. >> Um any other proponents? We don't see or hear anybody will close that part of the hearing. Is there any opponents? Anybody opposed to the
issuing this license? Don't see or hear. Anybody will close that section. Do you want to discuss this further or would you like to make a motion? >> I can make a motion to approve. >> I second it. >> Very good. The application for a one-day malt wine common vixular and
entertainment license to be exercised at 180 Beach Street History Museum on January 31st, 2026 from 400 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. is approved. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much.
Uh that concludes the applications for uh consideration. The next items on the agenda are hearings. Uh item item number one, I'm sorry, item number five of the hearings is Lepita Revier
LLC, Rep Lita Restaurant, 111 Shirley Avenue. Arasmo Geriera is the manager. This is a hearing into to ask you a continuation of the hearing from last month.
>> Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman, members of the license commission. James Sip, letter of attorney for the licency. And uh no disrespect, I do have a tie, >> but I was not able to tie it. So, >> it's an arm. >> What happened?
>> Um I like to explain it by saying that it's a simple mathematical error. I still think I'm 19, but uh halfway through my third set of hammer curls, I blew out the uh distal bicep tendon and had surgery. So, I'm not having fun this week. >> I tore my pectoral muscle a few years back. So,
>> that's that hurts. >> That hurts. Yeah, it's very painful. Sorry to hear that. So um I I think that Rasmo had um submitted to the commission some certificates of training that were
performed by VIP security and consulting. Um I I know that or I don't think that the commission had asked for him to submit a management and safety plan as he did that you did for BK's. Um but they on their own at
um at Lupita uh engaged the same consulting and safety management uh company to train the employees and I think the commission should have a copy of that uh certification of the employees as well as a completion of the training course that was given to uh the
management and the staff. >> Okay. Thank you very much counselor. Um well um I'm not sure where we where we left this last time. Do you uh do you remember where we were on this? Um
>> yes. So um what we were looking for which I believe we received today was some type of security plan on how um the business as a whole was planning to address um some of the issues that the neighbors were complaining about. They're going to
come out and yell at me. Um where where we left off was um looking for some type of security plan to be put together on how to address uh the concerns in the neighborhood. Um in the event that this business um is is um given the
opportunity to close again at 2 am um what are the measures that the business as a whole plan to take to address some of the disruptive patrons leaving um the business at closing hours? >> Indeed. I think uh Fernando who was uh the point of contact with uh VIP can uh
run down what the training was and what the protocols are that have been adopted by the establishment if uh with leave a chair. >> Thank you very much. >> Hello and address for the record please. >> Yes. Fernando Tvar from Lupus 111 Charlie. >> Thank you very much.
>> Thank you. So uh yeah, we took um a course um pretty much we just established that um the ongoing issue has been that um the crowd basically you know the uh disturbance outside so on and so forth. So we came up uh basically
just um move taking them out in increments. Um it hasn't been as busy as it was before. So now it's a lot easier to take this plan in effect. Uh basically just having people um wait in in between, not all the way outside, but
in between the entrance. There's a small door like two at a time as their Uber pulls up. Then they can just enter the Uber and leave. And also uh having to move down the sidewalk further towards um the beach and just you know keeping the wave of people moving so it's just
not st people aren't just standing there making um a disturbance of any sort you know just keeping the wave going um sort of things like that. >> Do you think if it got busy that you you would be able to continue that or is it only because it hasn't been busy that
you've been able to manage it? Um, no. I think we should be fine. Um, like I said before, we just didn't really have a plan in effect, I guess. So, this time we're just uh thinking things better. Um, trying to figure out a better plan.
And, um, that's probably going to potentially work. The only way that we can know is if we try it. >> Okay. Uh, Lieutenant, do we have we had any complaints or any type of noise situations that you're aware of? >> Uh, no. I actually haven't heard
anything from you guys. So, you said you took a course. >> Yes. >> There's some type of certification with that course. >> Yes, it was um >> one day course or >> um Yeah, we we brought it in. >> I'd like to take a look at it. Yeah.
>> Okay. Uh do you still continue to have a police detail there? >> Uh not at the moment because it's been so um we haven't had the same amount of people enter the establishment. Uh now on account we have like on our best
nights like 30 people if that but mostly just coming to eat. >> Okay. Like I said I haven't heard anything. >> It's been good. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Do you have any uh anything you'd like
to add? >> Yeah. So, I see no reports. I'm happy to see this. Um, so now that you know where the problem is, you know, I feel that, you know, you guys deserve an opportunity to give it a chance. Um,
and do we have uh Can I see what they brought? >> Sure. Um I do want to say so um is it the plan to hire additional security or um is that part of the the security plan that
you're putting forward today? >> Um yeah, we have so we had three security guards but due to the fact that it wasn't so busy, we had to let one of them uh take a leave until it got until we needed his assistance. There's still
two right now. >> Okay. uh due to them there being three doors, having to use the bathroom, etc., etc. Um, but yes, I always have personnel, so we're just going to play it by air and see how it goes cuz right
now at the moment, again, it hasn't been how it was before. We starting like fresh like happy new year literally. >> Okay. And then the uh I I note that it seems like there's and this directed towards council um your clients have quite a bit of balance with the uh
detail office. Um has there been a conversation about um getting that addressed? >> Uh I was unaware of that, but uh I'll make sure that that's taken care of. >> My understanding it's in excess of 10,000
>> 12,000. >> Is that correct? I was not aware of, but no, we'll take care of it. >> U Maggie, is there is do we have an actual account on how much the detail office is owed at this point? >> 12,689, >> right?
>> Um, so I know that at the last hearing, >> were you were you were you here at the last? >> Okay. Um, >> I'm not sure if it was your client or someone mentioned on on behalf of Leas that the detail office um obviously has
been a financial strain. Um I'm not sure what what are the requirements that we are they is it mandatory every Saturday and Sunday? How often do you guys have a police detail? >> We we had it um but it was more busy than what it used to be. We had it on Saturdays and Fridays. >> Fridays and Saturdays.
>> Yeah. But like uh we had one of the lieutenants come in there himself do a personal detail himself. Like he was there the whole night and he actually wrote an email to him saying that we only saw 10 people that night. So the detail was just a little bit >> and that's since the hours have been rolled back. >> Yeah. since the hours have been rolled back. Like I said, the most people would
get throughout the night like 30 uh counts. >> If I could be if I could correct me if I'm wrong, council, um but I believe that the requirement was only if you expected to be busy. That's only that's the only time we expected you or asked that you have a detail officer there.
>> Obviously, um is that wrong? >> So, uh I think we need to revisit that. Um clearly with uh you know I think our goal as a commission is to you know I think we
need to have a healthy balance regarding um the need to have the additional security measures with the detailed which is fine right and I think the police detail has proven to be fruitful uh especially when it comes to aiding
the business and the owner itself himself when it comes to getting patrons out. Um, however, uh, the fact that there's a $12,000 balance there clearly tells me that it's it's, um, it's becoming a bigger issue for them
financially. Um, so, um, you know, I'm not sure given that they've scaled back their business. They said they've had to let security go. Are we still going to require a detail officer mandatory Friday and
Saturday? Not sure if that's uh something that we could address mandatory whether they have something or not. >> Well, we could certainly address it, but the idea would be that if you were going to keep them at 1:00, then I guess we could probably do something about the
details because they're not bringing in the people that they were bringing in with a 2:00 license. >> I see. If we open them, if we let them open till 2:00, then you run the risk of having large crowds and no police details.
So, um, you know, I don't know how you want to address that or >> Well, council, what do you think? What's what's what's the what's um what's more of a need for your client in terms of the the police presence and
staying there till you know the possibility of being open at 2:00 or staying open or keeping the hours at 1 and elim eliminating the need of the detail. Uh, I think the plan that was put together with VIP and and the
establishment was with the view toward a reopening at 2:00 and targeting that training program to crowds that are in excess of 10 or 30, which was a maximum was 30 over the last month that they've had. So, um, it it it's not
I think if they're closing at 1:00, they're their business is really thin and maybe there's and since there hasn't been any problems, I don't I would anticipate that there wouldn't be any. However, there wouldn't be any business either. So, I think the the healthy balance would be 2:00 with mandatory
details Friday and Saturday. And if they were going to be busy because of an event on Sunday, that they'd have to do that as well and arrange that through the detail office. Uh more to the uh the previous point. Um Raasmos says by end of business tomorrow that uh detail um
money will be paid and just tell them where to go. Either the police station or the license commission, but he'll have a you'll have a check for that. >> That's very encouraging. >> So let me ask you something. You say that the business is slower. Um what do you consider that determine that? Is it
because it's closing at one because of the time of the year? Because are you still having the DJs that you usually have that come and bring like the larger crowd? Like what changed after you know the last hearing? >> And usually people when we tell the
customers as soon as they walk into a door we close at 1 is let's say 11:45 they don't want to come in anymore. There's like there's no point factor. Yeah. It's a fix factor. We don't want to be here for like 20 minutes and have one drink and then go out looking at the bar, put a jacket on. It's cold out. you know, everybody go to establish going to
be there till 2:00 which is affecting us in a big way. But are you did you have a DJ? Because I felt that this was you know good for your business and you do what you got to do to bring you know >> even if you have a DJ have you had a DJ
afterwards when you get your larger crowd. >> We do have a DJ but not >> even with the DJ people stay. >> The DJ's charges the same too. There's no there's no discount because we close it. >> Maggie, have we received any correspondence from any of the neighbors
or anyone from the community? So, there's been no updates regarding um whether the one:00 has has been any issues. Okay. >> I guess you could assume there've been no issues if they're not here. They were pretty vocal the last time they were here,
>> right? >> So, I mean, [clears throat] do you want to give them an opportunity to open till two or do you want to keep it as it is? And >> I'm in favor of of of moving them back
to the two o'clock spot. Um it seems to me once again um this business has particularly uh addressed the issues that came before us. Uh just to recap uh back when there was issues with the
sound, you know, they took measures to shut down and soundproof the business without complaint. They spent money doing that. The community came in here. They voiced their concerns. They shut down and obviously drastically affected
their business over the last 30 to 45 days, 60 days actually because we did this to them since what, November, I believe. Um, so I would like to give them an opportunity to execute their security plan to see if they can
implement those measures to address the noise complaints that's been coming out from the community. That's what I would like to propose putting them back to 2 o'clock to see how their plan works. >> I will also be in favor uh I mean you have been um here like almost every
month for hearing. You know where you know the issues are. You know what you need to address and uh I want to see your security plan. You know we're here to support businesses and you know we want to see you out. So >> thank you. >> That's okay.
>> Vote in favor. Well, I think um I think the commission feels like you have done what we've asked you to do. You have uh put together a program for uh the eventuality is that you are going to be
busy and you can control it. Well, I guess it's time to see if it's going to work. So, what we'll do is we will put you back to two o'clock. Um, and you you will still need to get
the police detail and implement your security plan and we'll see how it goes. You know, if the neighbors start complaining again, then you know, we we'll be back here again. So, please take that in mind at the end
of the night that you need to address that area out in front of your place so that the people can get sleep and they're not they're not listening to the mayhem that had been going on previously. All right. >> So, I guess uh I will make a motion that
we just file this for now and if we get any other complaints, we'll we'll bring it back. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much, gentlemen. We appreciate it. Thank you, counselor. And for the record, I second that motion. >> Thank you. >> Las Vegas is not,
>> huh? >> Yep. Mandatory. >> Yes. >> Friday and Saturday and optional for Sunday. Can we can we still do we have the ability to still address uh Las Vegas in this Even if they're not here, >> I think because I mean we we rolled them
back. Well, let's call it let's put on the record. Item number six, Takaria Aalipto Cor DBA Las Vegas restaurant 107 Shirley Avenue. Claudia Isabel Cabrera is the manager. Is there anybody here from
Las Vegas? don't see or hear anybody. >> So, well, I was going to ask if she said she believes that we could still address the issue because we rolled back Las Vegas. >> If they're not here, I don't I don't feel comfortable addressing the issue. >> Not if we're putting them back to the original time.
>> No, because we What have they done to We don't know what they've done to to mitigate any of the issues. These gentlemen came in with a plan. >> The other people didn't bother to show up, right? They must be satisfied with as it is now. Obviously, you guys
>> not necessarily. Remember, they voluntarily agreed to roll back. It wasn't because of issues with them. >> That's fine. I mean, you know, if you uh I'm only one vote on this uh commission, but I would I would say that we leave them where they are. >> I feel that they would need to come in
with a plan. >> Okay. So, we will move on to the next one. If they come in before the end of the hearing, we'll hear it. Um, item number seven, BK's Bar and Grill, RK, RK, and EC Corp. This is a
continuation of another hearing, the same situations, basically. Um, name and address for the record, please. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. James Simple, letter of attorney for uh BK's 5 Fremont Street in Winthrop. With me is Bob
Kelly. >> Thank you very much, counselor. Um, well, I know we've gotten some correspondence. I see the the new security doors in place in the back. >> Yes. >> Um, have we have you taken any other
steps to mitigate the stuff that we had discussed? >> Uh, yes sir. I think on 18th January, I had uh emailed a copy of the uh security and crowd management plan to the license commission. I'm not sure if it made it
into the packet or not. If not, I have hard copy here. It's four pages with attachments um by VIP. Um >> yes, I see the uh the plan right here, counselor. Thank you. >> Okay. Can you um go through the plan for us
and just tell me the highlights so I don't have to waste our time reading it through? >> Sure. Um so my understanding just hitting the wave tops I think that the uh commission was concerned with a number of different specific uh problems. One was the manner of leaving
the establishment. um at closing time or before with alcoholic beverages. People walking wandering out, people lingering around on the sidewalk and making noise, people coming in and out of the front and the emergency exit, which at uh sometimes was said to be uh un
unattended. um a procedure for putting into place uh the mandatory presence of a manager or somebody who has supervisory authority and that person is identified
both to the um public and the staff. And I think there was a more general uh closing protocol uh that was unacceptable and needed to be sort of fine-tuned. And that was what do
we do at um at last call? How do you do it? And what's going to keep people from ordering drinks and going out and thinking that they're going to be able to take the the liquor with them? music being uh turned down uh well in advance
of uh closing time and exit time and a manner of getting them out into the into the public way and disperse off the public way. So the plan addresses all of those and just the the headnotes of of these would be
uh the role and responsibility of the management. Uh so a manager or a designated manager or somebody with supervisory authority will be on duty at all times that the u establishment is open. If it's Bob, it's Bob. If it's not, it's going to be somebody who's an
assistant manager or somebody who's designated to have to speak on behalf of the management both with the staff and the public in the police department. We are made aware of some of a uh an entry in a police report where somebody who was not affiliated with the
establishment approached police um identified himself incorrectly as being part of the management and had a an altercation or a verbal dispute with the uh with the police. That would uh that wouldn't happen because we would all
everybody would know on that day who the who the person was. >> So who is it? >> The assistant man. >> Yeah. >> Who's that person going to be? Uh Christian Novo is he works securities. Sergeant um Fantasia has >> has Oh, sorry. Uh Sergeant Fantasia has
um met with him twice uh complimented him on his um being, you know, on top of things that were happening that night when there was an issue when the one time when he caught the person who went out the back door around the street with a bottle of uh beer.
>> So, so your head So Chris Novo is your head of security. He's also going to be your on-site manager. like that's going to >> No, I'm I I was going to I'm is going to be once I get all the paperwork figured out with Maggie tomorrow hopefully. Um I will be the manager of record and Christian will be when I cannot be there
that will be the person who will be the contact person if there should be any issues at all happening there. I spoke with him today in full length about it and uh got his you know approval to take that position and we worked it out he and I. >> That's good to hear. >> Sorry.
>> That's very good to hear. >> Yeah. Sorry. Um I don't know if you want to finish your I I think the other ones are just sort of um what happens what the duties and responsibilities are of the door staff and how to talk to people who may be uh thinking that they can
come in and out with with alcohol. And they've we've actually written a script and put together some deescalation language to um to interact with people who think that they can walk out at uh whatever time with with alcoholic beverages. And uh the script is is is
fairly bland. It's non-threatening. Uh but one one tagline of that is if you do go out into the public way, you're likely to be arrested. And that has a little bit more uh punch than just you're not going to be able to come back in. you're going to be bought, you're probably going to be arrested because
police are watching us. So, that um that would be um one thing that I know there was a lot of concern about that exit door, that back exit door that's been replaced. That will be observed uh by by staff people and floor personnel. And it's not going to be one of those that
can be um traversed in and out and be locked when it's not not be able to get back in from from the outside. The other policy is once you're out, you're out. No re-entry. It's like clubs in Boston or you go to, you know, the Boston Garden. You leave the premises, you
don't come back. That's unless there's an emergency, somebody's left their purse or somebody's left their wallet or something. There are always um exceptions to that. But that keeps the that lets the public know this is not a place where you're going to be walking in and out of because a lot of times and
common sense and people with with experience know a lot of times somebody can leave an establishment they go to the car they open the trunk they have a couple of cans of beer and then they come back in and then you know things happen that are you usually not ending well. So he wants to avoid uh that sort
of situation. Uh enforcement will be polite and firm. Uh police will be notified as a last resort and but we will not be um shy about calling law enforcement if something if we can't uh deescalate situation.
Last call closing and procedures. Last call will be given 30 30 minutes ahead of time. Lights will be dimmed. Amusement will be lowered and it will be lowered incrementally and the lights will come up uh to full about quarter of and then they start moving them moving them out to the uh toward the exit so
that they're not all leaving at the same time but they're leaving in an orderly manner. And they will be escorted and directed by staff and floor people and the security so that they know that they're not carrying any any alcohol and also be warned that they're not to
linger out on their corner and and make make noise and get into a phrase and start playing loud music because that's a violation of the city ordinance. is a violation of the terms and conditions of the license that they uh that they enjoy and uh that the management is not going
to tolerate it. That will that will be a police call if there is uh now there there was some activity in the uh parking lot across the way that's owned by another establishment. And I know parking sometimes on Shirley Avenue down that
area is is either limited or it's regulated and they park wherever they park. they park on the beachfront or they park over in the uh parking lot. We don't have the ability to control the the curtilage of somebody else's licensed establishment, but Bob has uh
has indicated that he you know when you >> Sorry. Sorry guys. Sorry my freaking phone answered. Sorry about that. >> That you know that is not an after hour that parking lot's not an after hours joint. you know, don't come leave my place and go over there and hang out and then get in a beef with people out on
the beach or coming out of another establishment. You know, respect people's licenses, respect the city's ordinances, and respect our ability to operate because um you know, there's this is not a guarantee. The license is not guaranteed to be 1:00, 2:00, or any
o'clock. So, uh the patrons need to know that. The staff certainly knows that because they did do their full day training with uh with the consultant. They did scenario-based um situations and how to handle uh people who are doing X Y and Z. And as new people come
on, they will be handed the this security plan and management operation plan and we'll sign that they are going to be uh held to it. If there is an incident, Bob's put together some uh an incident sheet. So if something happens in the bar, somebody is has to be uh
escorted out or told not not to come back in or has been disruptive, the uh person who is in charge of the establishment then will either put it in a log or put it make out an incident sheet and that will be kept as a permanent record. Uh if your name is on
that and somebody says, "Wait a minute, so and so is barred." You can go back and say, "You had an incident on on Friday. You had an incident three Saturdays ago. You're barred. You're not supposed to be here. you're gone. So, I mean, controlling the crowd while it's on premises is one thing. Controlling
who comes into the place is is is another. And controlling them when they leave the place well and not under the direct control of the within the licensed premises is a third one that was was very u very important. And that part of the training uh had had to
address that issue because it seemed as though the commission was concerned not so much about fights inside the place but what happens outside the place. So uh a good bit of the training the scenario-based
um drills were aimed at getting people away from the license establishment and on their way. So we we obviously see the the very detailed re you know plan here um and we've we've
reviewed it at length and obviously um you know from from the paper to imple implementation is what we really want right >> that's it that's it >> um so that's obviously the biggest concern and um this is very encouraging >> to see that there's a very detailed plan
in place here and um I trust that you I have all the confidence that you're going implement it and do things the right way. My own I said I trust that you're going to implement it and do everything that's on this actual >> already been trying trying to work this in in the last week and a half or two since Jimmy and I got together and put a
this I gave him my ideas and he took his and he meshed it all into one. >> The biggest concern is when you're not there making the biggest concern is when you're not there is ensuring that >> this plan is being followed because obviously you have multiple establishments and >> you're you're bouncing between two
venues. Yes. like you mentioned at the last hearing. So the the making sure that the right person is in place to implement all this stuff and and see it through when you're not there. Yes. >> Because you said it's a whole different ballgame when you're there, right? >> Versus when you're not there. A lot of these incidents happens when you're not there. Yes. That's part of the problem.
>> Yeah. >> All right. >> How many security personnel do you plan on having on a weekn night basis? >> Two. Uh there'd be two. Oh, sorry. Um on Friday, Saturday, there's always two dorm. Um, it used to be one in the front, one in the back, but now with this, like as I said the last meeting
with this new door policy, um, I mean, I don't know if you heard the alarm, it goes off. If someone you can obviously it's an emergency exit, so you can push it and go out, >> right? >> Um, if you what what I've instructed my employees is if someone goes out, we're going to have a few people that are just going to walk. They're used to going out
that way. They're going to do it. The alarm will go off. You get the key from behind the bar. You turn it off. Get the person's name. Make sure you write out a fill out an incident report. You tell them, "Look, it's okay first time, second time, not okay." You do it again, you barred for take a time out. Third
time, you're done. Um, and the incident reports will be, I think, >> really helpful. And I have a book behind the bar where they're three ring bar and they're just in there. So, the employees should be filling them out and I've asked them when they fill it out to snap a picture. If I'm not there that night,
send it to me so I have it on my person. [clears throat] Um, and I think you know you got the certificate. We did the we had a company come in uh two Sundays ago or three uh VIP safety strategies and uh it was all the employees, the doormen, the bartenders uh myself and we did about a
two-hour training with this gentleman who does it for, you know, all over the state, I guess. And it it helps. He's going to you will get a discount on your insurance through um the general liability possibly. >> Yep. And it's just it's it's he really a
lot of the people who work for me said I didn't think I thought I was going to come here today and just kind of just sit here and walk out, have a donut and a coffee and leave. But they learned stuff. Everybody felt like they learned stuff from this gentleman who is in the business and been in it many years and >> looks like a very comprehensive plan. I
mean he covered pretty much you know all of the situations that we wanted addressed. >> Yep. Um >> the one other thing is like obviously on Friday, Saturday nights there's going to be a strict 1:15 door closed, nobody in. If you go out for a cigarette right the
doorway you have to and I'm not even sure I might decide just you no going out at 1:15 I'm going to if it's okay I'm going to play with that a little bit. Someone wants to have a cigarette that the front door where they stay right there where we can see them. They can't leave. Um, and other than that, no
new customers in, which I hopefully will prevent any influx from other towns of people flooding in, which has been an issue for a long time now >> on and off uh with us and other places when the other cities and towns only have one. >> Yeah. And we don't want to ruin it for
us because of them. So, if we do a strict 115, people will learn they pull up at 120, 125, they're not going to get in. Period. Well, I mean, if you implement this plan and you stick through it, I think you will you will do well. >> I will do my very best.
>> And so, you know, I um I think that I'm satisfied that he has met what we had asked him to do. And >> I think I'd be inclined to allow the business to stay open the extra till
2:00 >> um and see how it goes. I don't know how you feel about it. >> I just want to ask something. First of all, I want to say that I'm impressed. Wow. You uh seemed like you addressed every single one of my concerns. Um I
did read your plan. I want to see it in action. >> Right. Um I want to ask you your staff training. When was the last time your staff got this type of training? >> Probably never for never especially to this length. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I would also be in agreement too. >> Okay. How do you how do you feel about it? >> I'm I'm on board. Let's put on a file and >> Okay. >> You know, hopefully we will we won't have to hear Yeah. [laughter]
>> that keep moving. >> Missing the application for the change of manager. Correct. >> I I guess I did it completely backwards. Uh so I have to see Maggie tomorrow morning at 9 to fill it out properly. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, um I would be uh I'd
make a motion that we file this and u thank you again for for uh addressing this. If we do have any other issues or if things come up, >> we'll be back here again. So, I hope that this plan >> I'm sorry.
>> Yes, back to 2 a.m. >> And I'd second that motion. >> Very good. The the Hearing is concluded. Thank you, councelor. >> Good luck. >> Uh, item number seven, I'm sorry. Item number eight, KST Corporation DBA Bill
Ash's lounge. Carrie Tonstalls the manager. It's another continuation of the hearing. We don't see him here, so we won't address anything. Uh, item number nine, uh, Lumina Lounge LLC, DBA Lumina Lounge, 63 Revier Beach
Boulevard. Omar Periato is the manager. This is a continuation of a hearing from our last um, meeting. Hello. >> Hi. Thank you all. Good afternoon. >> Can you turn on your microphone, please,
counselor? >> My apologies. Good afternoon, everybody. Attorney Dan Broio here today with Mumina Lounge. >> Um, where did we move off with this? >> Uh, they were going to they were going to come in with a plan to uh address the
concerns that we had very similar to the last uh situation. >> I have to give you an opportunity to develop a detailed remediation plan. >> Yes. And I did hand deliver a remediation plan last week um to to the clerk's office. Um I do have a hard copy
with me if that would be helpful. >> Yeah, please. Did that make >> that rem? >> I didn't see it. >> Council, would you mind just giving us a a summation of the plan itself while we look through it? >> Of course. So, first and foremost, I did
just want to thank the commission um for allowing us the opportunity to appear before you um to address some of your concerns. The Lency does fully understand the commission's concerns. that initially brought us here um last month. And since we've appeared here
previously, we have taken these concerns very seriously and worked very hard to implement meaningful operational changes. As you know, Lumina is a family-run business and it's new to the nightlife space. Um the owners and managers fully acknowledge that running
and operating a late night venue comes with heightened security expectations and responsibilities. and after our discussions and putting together this plan, they're fully willing um to continue making changes. So, the remediation plan that is before you
highlights three main components that you'll see in the plan. The first one is security and safety. Um essentially, security understands that they are not to be hands-on. I believe that that was the biggest problem that was brought up in the last hearing. There was an incident where security was hands-on
with a um a patron. um they they are fully aware that that sort of behavior is inappropriate um and that physical contact is to not be um had with any patrons at any time. Um >> see that >> police details are continued to be
utilized by Lumina. There is a police detail there on Friday and Saturday nights and Sunday nights that are expected to be busy. Um additionally, whenever there's a holiday event, I know Lumina reaches out to Rever police in order to request a detail. Um, security has had a large focus on deescalation,
monitoring, and calling the police when there's an issue instead of trying to handle it themselves. Um, Lumina also has a fully stocked first aid kit to be able to address any sort of safety or injuries that happened within the establishment and management is in the process of getting staff first aid certified. Um,
I'm in the process of getting everyone signed up um with a online Red Cross program as we speak. Um, another big issue that was mentioned during the last hearing was the closing compliance. Um, you'll see on page three of that
remediation plan, I did put a timetable in there for some of the new closing times that Lumina is going to be complying with. And these are the the times that they have been working rolling out over the past couple of weeks. I >> mean, are those times realistic? I I was just double checking because I mean, your your entertainment license allows
you to have music until 1. So, you're going to stop at a full 12:30 hour and a half before >> at the last commission hearing, I believe it was mentioned that we should stop it at 12:45. Um, and I may have misheard, but I wanted to make sure we were being as conservative of as humanly
possible when we were creating this plan. Um, which is why we we did put that in there. We're when we say we're stopping live music, it means any any live performers. Um, there will still be um auxiliary chord music playing at that time. the establishment is not going to
be silent at 12:45. >> Okay. >> Um also at uh so at 12:30 any sort of live entertainment would end. Um and then lights would be significantly increased around 12:45. Um last call is going to be announced to patrons at 1:15. Um tabs
are closed by 1:40. Um staff is going to start announcing closing because I know that there was a concern about pooling of people onto River Beach. Um, so staff is going to start making those announcements 15 minutes before people need to be out of the establishment um, in order to usher people out in a slow
and controlled manner so that we're not crowding River Beach. Um, and those are those are all things that have been implemented over the past few weeks. Additionally, there is and this wasn't an issue that was brought up before the board, but I do think it's worth mentioning. There is a manager on site
at Lumina Nightly. Um, I know that that isn't really a problem for them, but I I will note that their phone numbers and names are available to Rever police upon request. Um, management and staff has been trained on how to uh monitor lines and crowds for any sort of unruly or
intoxicated patrons. Every bartender is tip certified. And in that tip certification, there is a section that goes over how to identify overserved or overly intoxicated individuals. Um, so all employees will know how to look for and manage that. Those are the main
highlights from that remediation plan. Lumina is absolutely committed to working towards compliance and doing anything that they can to ensure that they are being compliant. And um, we're here tonight to answer any questions or take any suggestions from the commission. >> Has there been any issues?
>> So I see that your plan is dated December I'm sorry, January 16th. However, on December 20th, we have 12:45, a drunk person removed from the bar. Uh, December 28th, a drunk female outside. 11:43.
January 11th, medical assistance at 2:00 a.m. This was after the fact. I mean, this is something that, you know, should have been already addressed because we've already seen this before. >> Can you I'm my apologies. What were the
dates of that again? So, I have December 20th, December 28th, and January 11th. And our plan is dated. The one I have here is January 16th. I'm sorry. Okay, my bad. Um, but yes, like, um, since
their last hearing, I see that, you know, there were other issues that came up. Um, and I did take a look at the plan and I want to emphasize how important it is because again, it's like, you know, we just saw us. I don't want to see you
guys. I can't every month. You know, you guys barely opened. Um but we still keep on seeing the same reports. Yes. And and I have had conversations. I was not aware um fully of those reports. When I came to deliver the plan, I was
told that there was um a slight incident that didn't rise to any any level of written reports. However, I have talked to my staff since I did come deliver this plan, which I believe was last Friday. Um, and I was able to speak to them about how to handle overly
intoxicated um, customers. And we did talk about how the plan was to call the police if there was someone who was overly intoxicated and was intoxicated to an unhealthy manner that ambulance should be called um, in order to make sure that person leaves safely. Um, but we we have continued conversations about
how to safely deal with patrons that are overly intoxicated. Um, and those those measures are still being implemented. staff initially when you guys opened was all your staff trained >> when they were initially opened yes everyone was >> tips keeps on happening I mean
>> I see two reports in December >> and then again medical assistance >> what are the dates >> December 20th and the 28th >> I and it was my understanding that we had addressed those at the last hearing date and and my apologies if I'm incorrect >> 28th
seeing December 28th December 28. Was that the Sunday >> is that in the police law? >> Yeah. >> And this plan in its entirety was put into place at the beginning of February. I mean, excuse me, the beginning of January.
>> Well, again, it looks like a very comprehensive plan. has addressed all of the situations that we had um we had discussed. Um and I think you know the closing procedure looks like if this can be uh
adhered to that that will you know alleviate the after hours situation um and will you know will obviously address the issue of getting people out of the premises. But I'm looking at a police
report, but we have to clarify for the record because the report says that it was Lumia Lounge's security that requested officers to remove a man from the sidewalk. >> That's a different one. >> This is what was handed to me. >> Yeah, but that's that's a different one. It's in addition to that.
>> So December 28th is another incident. >> That's what I'm looking at. >> Okay. Well, it seems like there's a good plan in place here. >> I mean, that that is what we want him to do, right? >> Right. Exactly. That's that's perfect.
That's that's that's what I was I was trying to clarify because >> the goal with the hours that I put into place is to try and address those sort of issues. So, I understand um the concern and that that is a concern. >> I mean, I like your plan. I see that, you know, everything's addressed, all the concerns we have. I just feel like
why is it happening again after the last hearing, >> right? And you know everything would have been like much better if we would have seen no reports on file. But then again, we see reports on file, >> right? and and we have had conversations about that and
>> it is the hope that with these new hour requirements although they may seem stringent and strict um that with these new hourly >> timing increases or decreases that hopefully we will be able to remediate any sort of issue with overly
intoxicated people being escorted out at 2 a.m. which that's exactly why um we tried to roll those hours to curtail them to make sure people are not leaving the premise at 2 a.m. intoxicated. And as I mentioned, this plan did go
into place in January. >> So I don't know what that refers to. >> It says advised to take the license and stay it's unreasonable for Monday night. >> Oh yeah, someone called the that they
went to that street. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, you do have a couple complaints, which I guess is to be expected on a uh >> Sunday into Monday, >> you know, on a sun, like you said, a
Sunday into Monday, people want to work, they have to go to work. So, I I think it comes down to, again, you being uh somewhat respectful of the people in the area. And um I think if you operate this plan,
I mean I think I think it'll mitigate a lot of this stuff. >> I agree. >> So I guess we'll just file this from here or at least I'll make a motion to file it. If anybody else wants to object to it or >> or come up with an alternative motion or
second it, I'm all I'm all ears. >> I mean, I'm in favor. I read the plan. I want to see it like in action. Just >> Yes. And we we will continue to implement these these conservative timings to help with any of those
issues. >> And just understand, counselor, and have your clients understand that if we do get complaints and this plan is not adhered to the way it's presented, we'll be back here and then we'll, you know,
have to take other measures, >> right? So, at this point, we would just conclude the hearing and file. >> Yes. >> Oh, hi. >> I'm sorry. >> I just got a couple of security questions. Uh, last time when we had the incident with the gentleman struck the
other in the face, that was an outside security company you employ, correct? >> Yes. >> You have certainly gotten rid of that company, I would imagine, since, right? It's not the same company you have now, right? Do you have an in-house proprietary group? Is that what you have now? >> Yes, it's it's a different company is my understanding. And they've also um begun
working with the revered police detail since that incident as well. >> Right. Right. Right. Okay. So that gentleman that was involved in that is no longer employed and the company itself is no longer employed. >> No, that gentleman is no longer employed. >> And the people that are working then have they been trained and certified?
>> Yes. I I >> Yes, there the security company is a trained security company and as I mentioned previously, we are working um towards getting most of the staff so that there's at least one or two people that are safety and security as well as alcohol trained within the venue besides
the bartenders who are already have that alcohol safety training. Is it both nights, Friday, Saturday for the uh detail or is it >> So the Yes, the detail is used on Saturdays um and also some Sundays when they know it's going to be busy and then holiday events.
>> Okay, sounds good. Thank you. >> And I will just state for the record that they do always have four security guards on Friday, Saturdays, and Sundays. >> They have four. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And that that is part of our plan. >> Right. And also I'm increased because I don't have any uh securities in the
middle of the week. Monday to to Friday till Saturday no three days they don't have any security but >> I'm sorry. So I'm increased so the middle of the week never got in security before. So now I got a Monday, Tuesday
and Wednesday got another guy to protect the customer and protect myself. So for more for more on Friday, Saturday and Sunday plus detail office and try to increase protect. >> Thank you very much sir.
>> Lieutenant, are you satisfied with uh >> Very good. Well brings us back to we will file this and hopefully um this this plan will address the issues going forward. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Good luck guys.
>> Thank you. Uh that concludes the hearings for today. The next items on the agenda are communications, [clears throat] excuse me. An advisory from the Massachusetts State Fire Marshall concerning the use of
sparklers and pyrochnics in restaurants, bars, nightclubs, and disco techs. A notice from the Reier Fire Department of a failed inspection at the site of Atlantic Auto Body, Inc.
Notification of a business closure of hik DBA pizza days. There are a list of licensed renewals, common vixular licenses,
entertainment license, parking licenses, inholder license, class 2 motor vehicle dealer license, class one motor vehicle dealer license, lodging house license, and those uh renewals can be found on
the website. Um, and if you are interested in seeing which businesses have been renewed, you can go to the website and you will see the names of the businesses there. Um, do any of my fellow commissioners
have any other issues that they would like to address? >> Not for me. >> No. >> February 18th. >> Very good. I would make a motion that we adjourn till February 18th.
Does anybody want to second that? >> I'll second that. >> Very good. This meeting is ajourned.