Yes. Oh, thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Uh today's meeting will come to order. Uh before we begin, we'd like to start with the pledge of allegiance led by Lieutenant Mali. If you'd all stand, please. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of
America to the standy. >> Thank you very much, folks. Uh the following matters will come before today's license commission meeting. This is our regularly scheduled meeting and uh these meeting was previously
filed with the city clerk. The first items on the agenda. Thank you. Um, item number one, Mission Hill Donuts LLC, DBA Duncan, 338 Squire Road. Mark
Pessie is the LLC manager. This is an application for a transfer of a common vicular license. The application for a transfer of the common victim's license from LUJAC Cor to Mission Hill Donuts LLC
to be exercised at 338 Squire Road. The requested seating is for 6. The requested hours are Sunday through Saturday, 5:00 a.m. to 900 p.m. Is there someone here from Mission Hill Donuts? Would you
step up to the podium, please? >> And if you could tell us your name and address for the record, please. >> There we go. Sorry about that. Good afternoon. My name is Nicole Sullivan and my address is 72 Junction Square Drive, Conquered, Mass.
01742. >> Very good. Can you tell us uh briefly what you'd like to do with this uh transfer? >> Sure. This is just an ownership change in an existing Dunkin Donuts location. We're not editing any hours. Nothing
nothing crazy. Um we actually don't have any seats. I don't know if that's relevant to you guys. >> Well, yeah, we were wondering because I know >> this is the one in Joe's Market. There's no seats. [snorts] >> Okay. So, we're going to remove the seating aspect of your vicular's license.
>> Okay. And uh everything else as far as the what I mentioned is is correct. The hours. >> Yes. >> And the corporate name and manager and such. >> That's correct. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> We will close this part of the hearing.
Uh are there any proponents? Anybody that would like to speak on behalf of the transfer of this common victim's license? I don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Is there anybody opposed? Is there anybody opposed to the transfer?
Again, we don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Would you like to uh discuss this further or do you want to make a motion? >> I'd move to allow the application. >> I'll second that. >> Very good. The um application for
transfer of the common victual's license is approved. The application of Mission Hill Donuts to uh exercise the license at 3:38 Squire Road is approved. The requested hours are Sunday through Saturday 5:00
a.m. to 900 pm and that license is approved. Thank you very much. Uh, item number two, Triangle Pro, Inc., DBA Billy C, 441 Rever Street. Zen Zang
is the manager. This is a application for a change of manager. The application for the change of manager from Jim Fang Wang to Zen Jiang. Is there someone here
from Billy C's? your name and address for the record, please, sir. >> Uh, Wang. Wang. Uh, Wangiang. >> Mr. Zenzang. >> Zanzong. No, she's the manager. She's my manager. She works. Yeah.
>> Okay. And what is your position with the uh company? >> Uh part owner. >> Very good. And can you tell me briefly what you'd like to do with this? >> Yeah, I'm just changing the license from one to another. >> Okay. Any other changes going to be taking place?
>> No. >> Very good. Uh do any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? >> I don't. >> No questions. >> Very good. Okay. So, we're going to we're going to close this part of the hearing. Uh, are there any proponents? Is there anybody else that would like to
speak on behalf of the change of manager? I don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Is there anybody opposed? Anybody opposed to the change of manager? Don't see or hear anybody. We'll close that section. Would you like to discuss this further or make a motion?
>> I can make a motion to approve. >> And I second that. >> Very good. The application for a change of manager for Triangle Pro, Inc. DBA Billy C is approved. The uh manager will
now be Zen Zang and that's from Jim Fang Wang and at it will be exercised at 441 Rever Street and uh everything else with the license will remain as is. Thank you very much, sir.
>> Item number three, State Road Wine and Spirits, Inc. 116 State Road. Joel Sed is the manager. This is an application for a transfer of stock and change of corporate name. The application of State
Road Wine and Spirits, Inc. for a transfer of SC stock and corporate name from Beachmont Wine and Spirits. All other operations are to remain the same. >> Hello. Your name and address for the record, please. My name is Elizabeth
Pisano from Upton Connell and Devlin on behalf of the Lency State Road Wine and Spirits Inc. Um this application is to transfer stock ownership um from the 100% owner Jewel SE to Nyash Patel and
Divian Patel. Um the store is just bringing in new investors to come in and stabilize the finances, upgrade the appearance of the store and quality of the products. Um it's the same lency, same store manager. Um all operations
will remain the same. Um the two new investors are um license holders in the city of Boston. So they have uh the experience necessary to run the operations. Um, and everything else will remain the same and happy to answer any
questions that you have. >> Very good. Uh, do any of my fellow commissioners have any questions? >> No, I don't. >> No questions. >> Very good. So, the operation is going to remain as is. No, no changes whatsoever. >> No.
>> Very good. >> You'll just see maybe cosmetic updates, but just cleaner atmosphere, higher quality products, things of that nature. >> Okay. Well, thank you very much for that. We appreciate it. We'll close this section of the hearing. Are there any proponents? Anybody else that would like
to speak on behalf of the uh issuing of this transfer Stark and change of corporate name? I don't see anybody change that section. Anybody opposed? Anybody opposed to this? Don't see or hear anybody propose that
section. Would you like to discuss this further or make a motion? >> Uh further discussion is not necessary. I'd move to approve. I'll second that. >> Very good. The application for a transfer of stock and change of corporate name for State Road Wine and
Liquors, Inc. is approved. The corporate name will be changed from Beachmont Wine and Spirits. All operations are to remain the same. Thank [clears throat] you very much. >> Thank you very much. Okay, >> the next item on the agenda is um
item number four. Um I I guess that concludes the applications. The next items are hearings and the first hearing will be uh Agueta and Pine Corp. DBA Carnival
Latino Restaurant 7B Ever Street. This is a hearing into violations of closing procedures, over service, and service past 2 a.m. This is continued from our August meeting where we were going to
see how things went with the improved plan. >> It's from July. Are we all set? >> Thank you. Okay. Yes. So, um if you could explain briefly what you've done and what uh what you think the outcome has been.
Um, we've been doing um what what we said last time like um turning the lights on at 1 11 1 no buckets um after 12 like and
everything has been good like >> have you had a police detail? >> No, only the securities. We have the securities and no no problems at all. Thanks God. Very good. Uh, Lieutenant, was there an issue with some
>> There hasn't been anything since last time you were here. So, whatever you're doing, it's working. >> I mean, I have a couple of >> microphone. >> Can you hear me? >> Yeah. >> All right. Um, whatever you're doing, like I said, uh, keep doing it because I haven't seen any issues. I haven't had
anybody tell me anything and these guys are pretty quick to tell me things at all. >> Okay, >> that's it. Are there an issue with details and money or >> I believe there is from you. I think you owe uh one officer uh detail money right here. That's what I have. >> Um but
>> Oh, I'll bring I'll bring I didn't know. I'll come to that. >> I got the receipt right here. >> Okay. Thank you. Do uh any of my fellow commissioners have anything that you'd like to add to this or any questions? Um I I would just simply add that, you know, I I did review the the River
Police Department logs um essentially between July 15th and and uh November 13th and very minimal activities as as reported by Lieutenant um you know and and whatever little disturbances that this business did have
in August, it didn't really seem to be related to his business itself. It was out in the parking lot. And I think police officers noted that the business was essentially cleared out and closed at that point. Um so it appears to me that um there has been a significant
behavioral change um in their operations as well as the way that they essentially have been conducting business overall. Um I think that at the last meeting uh when this business was in front of us, we all had reservations about the lifting the police detail and the one of
the primary concerns was that you know they've essentially been okay because um there've been a police detail there but I think over the last uh 60 to 90 days we've we've seen that you know whatever they've done with
their security changes as well as their operations as well as the representations from the on-site manager that clearly [clears throat] um they have they're on an upward trajectory. Uh so I just wanted to state that on the record that I certainly have the
confidence that this business will continue to operate. I I I trust that we we won't see them necessarily in front of us with any issues given the changes that they've made and the period of time that has passed. So, I'm certainly in favor of um you know, keeping the police
detail off uh for their weekends and allowing them to operate the way that they have been operating over the last 90 days. >> Very good. >> No, I'm just happy to hear that things are working out for you guys. I have a
question like um in case we have like a famous DA or something like that. Um it might be busy or something like that, we can hire a detail for like the specific night or that what we were talking about that so everything can be you know like
safe and I think that will work in case >> you can call us anytime. >> Thank you. is going to bring in more people, then by all means, call call the police and get a detail in there and at least it'll cover yourself as best you can.
>> Okay. Yeah. >> All right. So, >> I guess what we'll do is we'll just file what we have here. I would make a motion that we file it and uh send you on your way and wish you the best of luck. >> Thank you. >> And I'd second that motion. >> Very good. So, this hearing is concluded.
>> Thank you very much, folks. We appreciate it. >> Thank you. Take care. >> Thank you. Item number five, Lupita River LLC, DBA, Lupita Restaurant, 111 Shirley Avenue. Azimo Guera
is the manager. This is a hearing into disruptions of the public safety and order, service of intoxicated patrons, violations of license closings, and violations of on premise law. Uh, and
this is a continuation from our August meeting. How are you today, sir? >> I am doing okay. I apologize for being late. I don't have my personal card. I have a big reefer, so it takes more than one parking spot. >> Okay. And if you could just give us your name and address for the record, please.
>> Rasmo, 111 Cherry Avenue. >> Very good. So, you know why we're here, right? >> Yes. Uh, I believe this is a follow up for the last time we were here. >> Yes. A follow up from the last time. Um, and so before we get into it though, uh,
are you folks here for to speak at this hearing? >> Well, let's hear from some neighbors. All right. So you have an idea of what people are saying and what the issues are that we're going to be addressing. Okay. If you'd like to come up and speak, please would appreciate it. Your
name and address for the record. >> I just hit the uh the button on the front of the console with your left hand. There's a button there uh in the front. There you go. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good evening. U my name is Le Alahi. I
live in 112 Shirley for almost 13 years. This is my home where I raised my family. And today I'm standing here again because I'm fighting for my house, for my peace, for my sleep, and for the safety of my family. Again, for the
second time. I'm the closest neighbor to Lupita's Bar. I live directly in front of it. I can see everything happening in the bar. Everything I hear, everything I feel, what's going inside. We stood here last July 2024, last year.
And you have the same exact problems, loud music, drunk crowds, chaotic behavior in the street until 3:00 in the morning. And now it's getting worse. Nothing changed since last year. You give him I
think in August permission to reduce the hours and it was quiet for like three months. We had um a good three months of sleep but again he promised to do something and you give him the permission again. Um I checked Lopez's
restaurant that the licensed restaurant but the definition of restaurant is not a restaurant. It's a it's a night bar. It's nightclub. So no restaurant shake the walls of the neighbors by life DJ every night especially weekend. No
restaurant has crowd drunk customers screaming at the street until 2:30 in the morning. No restaurant create chaos and threaten all the neighbors on the street the safety of the neighbors in the street. This is a clear nightclub.
Plain and simple clear. nothing um operating in the middle of the residential area where family living. Last year, Lup promised improvement to the place like soundproofing, double door, better control, and the
police officer uh attend every weekend. None of it help. None nothing. Everything is still the same. Every Friday night and s Saturday night, uh my family and I just sit and wait. We
cannot sleep until um until 2 two 2:30 or 3:00. We just survive another night of noise. Even with the with the with the door shut, we still can hear the music. When someone open the door of Lup like in and out the
the the sound like plus the whole street like concert, like live concert. People go in and out constantly like for smoke or for something. Sometime they smoke weed in the street. So we can smell it clearly from my house. But the worst
thing and I did send five videos to to I hope you saw them. >> Yeah. Good. A video from August, September, October, November. So the worst the nightmare start after 2:30 when the the the the place the nightclub
finish music the crowd leave the the place and sit in the street or stand in the street shouting and screaming and swearing with a bad words for maybe 45 minutes and the security guy he's trying to do good job like move out he once
they are leave the the nightclub he close the door and that's not his business and they spoke to the officer many times in the Can you ask them to go? He said I can't. They are waiting for Uber. They cha cha chat. So there is no law to push them to force them to leave the street. So we
have to wait until maybe 3:30 until they kindly leave the street so we can go to sleep. Um uh they scream and they swear and they argue about and I don't understand the language. So uh many times uh the police
trying to many times like last week like eight police cars were there because there were the bottle fights. There was a fight and uh some of it some of the customers came out with a they they hide beers and the security poor guy he couldn't see them. So they I I see them
they drink the rest of the beer in the street and one time they have fight and I saw I account and I think in the videos like seven eight cars. Uh I did some research about how many u police rever police cars on that night and I I
saw it and I went to the police station to talk to one of the officers. He said like maybe 15 cars in night platon 1 which is from 9 to 3 9 9:00 p.m. until 3:00 in the morning. 15 cars. So if
eight cars in my street in one time so what about the rest of the city? There is no security because lupas take all the security to protect their customers or to to ask them to leave. Um I did ask
a city hall employee to come to see it at 2 2 3 2:30 in the morning and she said to me, "Oh, don't stay that late." But we do. We cannot sleep. We cannot sleep until they allow us to sleep. They allow us to go to sleep and have peace.
We are not something we are not um asking for anything. We just ask for a basic quiet life. We don't ask for anything more. My upstairs neighbors uh had a cancer and his wife has a heart issue problem. They had to move out.
They left the building and they moved to to soas because they couldn't handle the stress of he receiving chemotherapy and she have a treatment. So they couldn't handle everything, the sickness and the the noise and the the the the non-sleep.
So he moved out to soas and I I really felt I break my heart that he's a good guy. I know him for 12 years and uh he left. Uh now what we are thinking to move out everybody's think to move out because the streets l make our life is
like nightmare. We cannot live because every night different people they shout and scream and I can't I can't tell I have a daughter 12 years old daughter to hear every night that scream and bad words and you know and the smoke of marijuana every night. >> Can I ask you a question?
>> Go ahead. Um, how do you how are you able to differentiate >> um between uh the people coming out of Lupas versus the people that are coming out of Las Vegas because they're right next to each other. >> Yes.
>> And they and they both let out essentially at the same time. >> Good good question. Uh because I live like this door and Lup's door is this door, this wall. So I can see them. >> What about Las Vegas? If if Lupita's door is there, >> Lup is small comparing to to Las Vegas.
Small comparing to Liz, >> but they're right next to each other. >> They are next to each other. >> Exactly. >> Uh but okay, let me be clear. It's let's say 30% Las Vegas problem and 70% rupees. >> How do you how did you get to that percentage?
>> Because uh we have Las Vegas since uh years and the problem was fine. It was handable. But when Louisa open it just like boom. >> But you know so so here's here's why I'm challenging you a little bit on this because >> I don't I don't want to uh confuse my
questions with the fact that like I'm very sympathetic with your family and in the neighborhood. >> Thank you. >> That will be addressed shortly. My concern is that um based on my own observations of parking my car up the street and watching Lupita let out in
Las Vegas, the crowd from Las Vegas and the crowd from Lupas, they essentially mesh while all walking down the hall the street. They both have a nightife going on at the same time. So even if Las Vegas has been there for some time, you
know, they can bring in new management and new DJs and have the same type of uh attraction that Lupitas have. So I'm my my question to you is and and you sent me these videos and I watched them. How can you confidently differentiate the
crowd that's coming out of Las Vegas versus the crowd that's caused coming out of Lupas? Because I just don't want to single them out. >> I I totally agree with you. What time was it that you or your >> So I watched a video from uh a 141. >> So you watch my video. You didn't you
didn't go >> you didn't go by yourself. >> Well, I'm referring to your video, but but what I'm talking about is my own observations when I went on a Saturday night and I sat I went out on a Saturday night >> again. I sat there from 1:15 in the morning to about 2:15 in the morning.
>> Okay. And I I observed when the crowds were coming out, I observed crowds coming out of both businesses and uh but but referencing the videos that you showed me or that you sent to the commission. Um my question to you is how
how can you tell in those videos that that's Lupita's crowd versus Las Vegas's crowd? when Lupa was shut down last year or reduce the hours >> and so there's no life DJ the street was totally quiet when even Las Vegas was
still working so Las Vegas I don't know maybe the type of customers come to Las Vegas are very polite very old rational people maybe but the the customer the type of customer come to just wild I don't know maybe they attract different
type of character or people >> different music. I don't know. But uh and by the way, 1:15 to 2:15 is nothing. You should be there like 2:50. You will see when when Rupes close the door and Las Vegas close the door and people
outside continue partying. >> Well, >> yeah, that's >> from what I saw that there was there was very little people and it looked like it was basically just employees and management. >> Okay. >> Around 205 210 from what I saw from Lupita's >> in anticipation of this meeting. >> Yeah. Um,
>> even my videos is like uh you see >> I've seen 2:05 like after 2:00. Yeah, I see what you're saying. >> So, so you have to be there like one weekend. I promise you one weekend and you will see how we are suffering for the last year. >> I see from the videos.
>> Yeah, I see the videos. It's really sad you know that I pay tax to the city of Rivera and I love River City >> of course >> and I'm proud of being member of River City resident but all my tax go to where you know I have no personal problem with him you know at all I wish that he got a
good restaurant and I will be the first one to go as a customer but I want to sleep you know I don't have to pay my my life my my my family just to so I can make business you know and uh um so we just we need a quiet life. We
don't need more. >> Well, sir, let me ask you what what do you think what do you think the business could do to help that situation? >> Um maybe he can just open like a good restaurant with a good food that people
come and eat. Sir, before I do this long speech, I'm sorry. I I I checked the different online the restaurant, bar, nightclub. >> Mhm. And the restaurant is just a nice food and little alcohol, very light music. And the bar is mild music, more
food and more alcohol. But the nightclub, less food, loud music and dancing. So Lupita is just in that category. Is night is nightclub. He cannot write. We all know that he cannot write restaurant at the board. He's not he's not restaurant. He's not the
license is not right for restaurant. He is a live DJ with a live music is a nightclub. So I guess nightclub has different rules and different regulation. And uh even the the the sound he did didn't work. The double door.
>> Well, I I would agree with you that if >> if uh he had come in and applied for a nightclub license in that location, it it probably wouldn't work. >> Exactly. Because even the the next door the the he next door to to to Lupus it's
a elder house you know people like maybe 50 units with old people only old people like retired people and uh I I I don't know what to say you know if I but I I think what you ask me what should we do
I mean either he be a restaurant or he changed the license to nightclub and it will be a different scenario And also I would like to ask from the the city hall to have the street as signed as designated as resident parking
only. So after 7:00 only resident can park there. So the customers can park somewhere else because again we have the parking issue it's it's non-stop. With the new building in river in in in
Shirley a like the street is booming you know. So with with the new buildings, even my building, they told us it will be knocked down maybe in two years or three years. >> I mean, you can you can imagine what the problem with that request would be because obviously if there's there's a business there and they're open till
10:00 at night and >> he has a big parking lot behind this. >> Well, I'm not necessarily talking Lupas. I'm talking about your general request that uh >> only for that area, you know. You know, I don't know. >> That would be tough. I mean, obviously, we're not the the body >> to do that. So back to the the the the
restaurant or nightclub. So I think you are a licensed and we were here last year and the same committee I the with the full respect you know there's a lot of things happened last year I didn't repeat it like people doing peeing in the in the in front of my house in front
of the girl in the the backyard my house the front yard of my house you know people have a they have a bottle fight you know women and and men just throw a bottle of beers in front of each other >> you can and you can confidently say that those people that were engaging in that
behavior came from Lupas and nowhere else. >> As I told you, I guess 30% Las Vegas and 70 rupees because when Liz was off, we didn't have anything. So the people of Los Las Las Vegas in and out quietly fine. >> Right. But in your opening statement,
you said that um you know, even since we imposed uh these conditions, nothing has changed. It's been the same. >> That's what you said >> when he came back. Yes. Yes. First page. Yeah. when we we were here in July last year and then you reduce the working
hours so he almost lost the the disco >> and he became a restaurant so the quiet the street was totally quiet and then you allow him again to with some improvement so the same issue back again we have nothing nothing changed
>> so you did see a difference when we wrote back the hours >> oh yeah big no it's no big it's like heaven you know between heaven and hell we can go to sleep and I felt sorry for him because I I was sitting in my my room. I see customer coming at like
12:00 dressing fancy going to the disco and oh it's closed so they leave. So I felt sorry as a human for his business but as as a I need also to sleep you know I need to my family I need to go to work I work in the hospital you know I'm
medical interpreter I mean this guy has chemo therapy every other day you know his wife has a >> and how long have you lived um >> almost 13 years >> 13 years yeah >> and and um and how long from your knowledge how long has Lupita been there?
Oh god. Um, >> they came after you moved. >> Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. >> But Las Vegas was there beforehand? >> Yes. Yeah. But it was nothing. We didn't feel Las Vegas like a regular bar, you know. It's fine. No. >> Okay. Well, thank you very much, sir. >> Yeah. Thank you for letting me talk and
thank you for listening and u >> we'll see if we can fix this. >> Yeah, I hope so. Yeah. Uh, my my my >> Can I say something? >> Yeah, absolutely, ma'am. Please step up. >> Thank you so much. Appreciate it. And just just as a question, have you spoken to the ownership about this of
Lupita? >> To be honest, this is the second time I see him. I saw him last year in July here and I didn't know his face and this second time I see him. >> No. >> Okay. >> So, we don't see him in the area.
>> All right. >> And thank you. >> Welcome. >> Hi, my name is Samira Buzzagu. I used to live in 12 Sh and I came with them last time if you remember me. Yes, I do. >> Yes. Yes. And I moved from my apartment
because of lupidas because my husband has cancer. and uh since 2022 and the cancer came back in uh uh the the the end of 2023 and uh when we came last uh
time in 2024, my husband was doing the chemo and everything and he needed a lot of sleep and you know someone with cancer and uh yeah I uh feel bad for my neighbors. Uh
I was living in Rivier from 2006 uh until uh 2024 uh October because I couldn't. My kids they all uh had school here in Poor Rivier uh Garfield and uh we love Rivier but we couldn't stay
because we couldn't sleep. My husband was taking medicine and he was doing uh two months of chemo but he couldn't sleep. That's why we moved. We I moved from an apartment, four bedrooms, big the hospital was near my my
apartment. The train was near my apartment, everything, the schools. But I moved to River to Sus because my husband needed to sleep and I feel bad for my neighbors because there is an old woman who has cancer to there. She lives
in my she moved from 110 um the second floor to my apartment. uh and there is uh old people there is a lot of kids they go to school there is people who can they want to go to uh work but uh I
was listening but when he told him why what is the difference between Las Vegas and Las there is a big difference Las Vegas we sometimes we hear some music during the weekend but it's far
but we can sleep people were not not rude but lupas it's a a huge difference uh people who yeah the the kind of people I respect everybody but we need
respect too to be respected the people are different the people when they come out they are really in another word people fighting saying words that we don't we don't want our kids to hear that even us why we have to hear
and people using the backyard as a bathroom and you can we have it's not even that far. Yeah, you can see if you go there you can see we can see the who are the people who this white people coming from. They were coming from Lupas not
from Las Vegas and a lot of people sometimes I say how this small place can have all these people inside. Maybe they cannot see it. They be crowded a lot of people and
imagine all these people drunk and shouting the their cars all with loud music. Yes, I feel bad for my neighbors and I feel bad for myself because I left the the place a four bedroomedroom to a threebedrooms smaller apartment because
I needed just my husband to be uh in in a better place that he can sleep and thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Thank you guys. >> Thank you, >> sir. If you'd come back, please.
So, you've you've heard what the the neighbors have said. I mean, it's not anything that we haven't heard in the past. Uh, I did and I am sorry and I apologize but um, ever since you guys requested me to have a detail office, I have not failed the city of River. You
guys know I've been having a detail officer every weekend from now on. Last time I was here before the science happened, you guys requested me to have one every Sunday when I have that famous DJ that always brings a lot of crowd. I follow those steps too and I comply as
much as I can with the city as a detailer officer and the busiest night which is the weekends and they're there until everybody technically leaves the um the um how do you call the um the front of the store and everything. So,
>> well, what do you think we can do about the people on the sidewalk after the place closes because they're What can we do to keep the noise down for the neighborhood so that people can can enjoy their their homes? I mean, you know, the way it seems now is that as
soon as your place lets out, everybody's congregating on the street. Maybe they're waiting for Ubers, they're waiting for rides. I mean, I don't know what uh what suggestions you would have to to kind of keep a lid on that.
>> That's actually a very real question. I mean, we offered you the already offered the officer. I mean, um, what do you guys suggest? >> Well, I mean, I don't know. Um, Lieutenant, what do you think? >> I mean, I don't want to see your
business get hurt. I mean, reducing capacity, earlier hours, bumped up security. I mean, those things would all hurt you, but they would be effective. Um, I wasn't around here last year uh when it happened, so I can't really speak to that. But, uh, you have a
detail officer there. I know you have proprietary security in-house. How many people do you have working? >> Three guys, >> plus. >> What's that? >> Plus the officer. >> Plus the officer. Okay. I mean, I can't imagine another single office going to help you since half the time we have most of the cars in the city down there
anyways at closing time. I got the log entries in the computer for all the times the officers have been down there. I got a couple of arrest reports. One of them mentions that one of these guys that was arrested had a red solo cup with alcohol in it that came out of Leas. Um, so security should probably do
a pretty a better job inside. And I don't know if there's any issue as far as over sererving, but if these people are coming out the street drunk, there's a chance that might be a case. Um, so security needs to watch that as well. I mean, I don't know if they're sneaking in booze, sneaking booze out. I mean, that's probably
>> there's a there's a officer in the front door, >> right? But that's one officer. You got probably 150 people coming out. They only got one set of eyes from us. Um, so security inside, you get three guys. If they can do a better job of making sure nobody's sneaking booze outside or inside, no one's over drinking, that may
help. People won't be as excited when they come out, maybe. I mean, >> in addition to that, I mean, I don't know what else I can say. It's a it's a residential area. >> Uh, have you um have you had the chance to review um any any of the logs or does any of the logs reference uh any
disturbances from any of the other bars or is it just primarily lupus? I can just I can get the entries for all of them. What I have in front of me is just >> Okay. Yeah. Um I do note that um maybe you can attest to it or not, but I do note that in our our packet, it did
reference that one of the disturbances um they the officers noted having issues with uh guests coming out of Lupitas and Las Vegas. That's what that's where essentially prompted me with all these questions. >> I'm sure it doesn't help that you have two bars that close together. Um one's
significantly smaller than the other. I don't know the occ I I have no idea like the clientele of Las Vegas. So, I don't know if they're a little bit more dis they're not disruptive. I I don't know. >> And prior to this hearing, uh, Lieutenant, have you spoken to any of you at the officers that are actually on detail? Uh,
>> I have spoken to them over time. They what I have them do is anytime there's an issue with any of these clubs, I have them email me the reports, everything. And of course, I review them and I talk to them if I need to talk to them to clarify things. >> Okay. Um, from what I understand, it's a routine thing, especially on weekend nights, that we have the entire east
side units and sometimes some of the spare cars and supervisors down there trying to kick people off the street. It's just a tough situation because it's a small compact area. And yeah, you have two bars, maybe three. Leases is the main bar. You have the most people coming out, but it's residential, so it's 2 o'clock in the morning, you're
going to hear things, and there's people there, like you said, waiting for Rubers, etc. So, I mean, this the resolution, I'm not really sure. >> Exactly. So, and this is this is exactly why I asked you that question because the night that I and I you know admittedly I I can't speak to the uh
full scope of what the residents are speaking to in terms of what they're experiencing. But the night that I did go out there and I observed um the bars uh the establishments I should say letting out is um I had an opportunity
to speak to the detail officers on on that night and they they said that the biggest issue that they've been having is not necessarily about the things that are going on inside Lupas operationally. They actually praised what they were doing, the changes they made. >> That's good to hear. what what he what
what I was told was that it's the issues when people are out in the street and they're waiting for the Ubers as you noted and they're waiting for their rides and they're they're interacting with the crowds coming from the other businesses that we have this kind of like issue where they're kind of it's just
like you said it's a compact area the noise in the street and it's you know my concern here and I I could just say this overall to the commission my concern here and I said it to my fellow commissioners is I don't want to unfairly punish one business, not necessarily for something that they're
not doing inside, but for the maybe the lack of crowd control that's coming outside. We required, as he noted, for him to get a police detail. He did it, and he didn't even complain about it despite the cost. We we have countless businesses come before us on a monthly
basis begging us to take details off because it's the the cost is exorbitant. He said, "You you need me to have somebody there? No problem. The detail officers that I talked to, I talked to two of them, a female detail [clears throat] officer and a male detail officer. And one reported that they're typically there every weekend
there. That's that's like the assignment for that officer. And said that it's not what's going on inside. They said in fact they've been impressed with how their security turns away underage people. They don't let you know when it gets too packed, they have no problem turning people away. They see them snatching cups.
primarily said it's it's what happens outside. So, how I don't want to un unfairly target lupas and not not discrediting what the neighbors are saying without addressing the block itself because you have more
than just one bar on that block. >> It's the location that the issue is. We have other clubs that have big parking lots and that type of stuff and we can manage that, right? >> You can get cars in people get picked up, etc. It's just it's a residential area. It's a one-way street. There's really no way to go. Those people come
out, 50, 60 people. There's no way for them. >> Can we confidently say that if we roll them back to one? >> I can't confidently say that. >> The crowd is just going to come out at one, right? >> They're not going to stop going there. They're clearly a place that's going to >> Exactly. I mean, an occupancy limit, I mean, I don't even know if that's a thing, but if an occupancy limit would
affect the size of the crowd, but it doesn't affect the actual clientele itself. There's no guarantees. The only thing I can see is that in fact, it's a tough area for that. Uh, you go to houses there and it's just it's a tight area. No matter what time of night 50 60 people come out, they're on the street waiting for whether it's one o'clock or
it's two o'clock, the distance between the the neighbor's door and lupitas doesn't change. >> That's correct. >> No, but the gentleman did say that once the hours were rolled back that the noise situation was was evaded. >> If I if I could recall correctly, we
rolled them back to 12. >> That's correct. >> We rolled them all the way back to 12. A one hour. I mean, again, I'm not saying that we've decided that we're going to roll them back to one o'clock, but even if we consider an hour roll back, I don't know if it's going to accomplish much. And my concern with doing such a
significant roll back is we have a gentleman that essentially has done everything that we've asked for. Lieutenant uh Mali has acknowledged and we all can agree that Shirley Avenue is in a highly residential area that has
two pretty popular um night life attractions and the two are going to collide. And I I I just want this commission to um balance obviously the needs of the community um and their concerns
um against and with the um the businesses that decided to open up their business there. You know, unless we're going to shut them down completely. I I think that we just need to really uh think about that and I don't know if we can do that with just Lupita's restaurant sitting here. Um so that's
where I'm going with it. I have a question. How many days a week do you have a DJ? >> Uh, Thursdays, um, Thursdays, uh, Fridays, Saturdays, Sundays. >> So, I think this might be like a really good,
um, why they see the difference with Lupas and Las Vegas. Las Vegas doesn't have a DJ, and this might be like a reason why. Like, >> they don't have a DJ at all. >> I don't think so. >> They do. >> They do. >> They do. >> No, they don't have a DJ. Well, then
they play music. I don't know. >> So, that's why we're getting all the complaints because it's louder. I mean, one thing is having a DJ, >> it's my opinion. >> Thursday, Sunday. >> It is very loud. >> Thank you. It is it is very loud the
music because when I've been by there I can see that you can hear it from from the street and when the door opens it's like you're right on the dance floor. So turning it down somewhat
might help. But I mean I don't think we can just throw our hands up and say well that's surely have you know too bad. I think we have to come up with a solution here. >> And I agree with you. I I I think surely I've grew up. I was there when all the bad stuff were happening when nobody wanted to cross the street as the
>> Yeah. No, it's definitely a lot different now. No doubt about it. >> Big improvement. I'm happy with the improvement that RIA has taken into that street. I feel like Chile can now compete with Broadway when it comes to commercially. And uh I apologize about the parking, but Riviera parking has
spent too much money on meters, so they can't bring that up. It's residential parkings on the side of the street. and um mean. >> Yeah. No, look, I I can see you want to be part of the solution. And so that's what you know what we're doing here is trying to come up with a solution. I
don't know. Do you know the people from Las Vegas? >> Uh personally, they're my tenants. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So, >> I guess you know them pretty well. >> Remember, they own that block. Um, so
>> what would you think about pooling with Las Vegas and having a detail officer on the sidewalk? >> I brought that up to attention. I have before about a year ago when when I first got in trouble cuz you know, like he said, everybody like I got blamed for everything. I brought that up. Uh, I
didn't get an answer back. So I really mind my my own business. I went on and I agree to what the charges you got. I mean, if you guys want to write a letter to him or say something and between my >> I also learned I also, >> you know, I'm working and willing to >> the guy from the the people from Las
Vegas for according to the rever police department officer that I was on duty. They essentially called his restaurant to send some of the detail officers over there when they have some issues and they don't even pay for the detail. >> I really looked into this. And I'm
trying to tell I didn't I didn't just come to this hearing because >> I've been I've been extremely hard on this gentleman. It's on the record. I've been extremely hard on this gentleman. I I I certainly rejected a lot of of of his notion uh which I
felt at the time was probably deflecting. But um I really looked into it. I've had conversations with these officers. I've had conversations with people that are coming out of there and I just can't accept the fact that it's
only Lupas and never mind the conversations I've had personally. Um I've witnessed it myself and I I just I don't know if there's a DJ inside. I've never stepped inside of Lupas and I've never stepped inside Love Vegas. I'm just telling you straight on what I see from my car
observing and when I stepped out to the sidewalk and spoke with a couple details. In fact, if you look at some of these videos uh sent in from the neighbor, um it when they pan over to Lupita at 2005, the place is empty. >> Yeah. I know I don't think it's the
place itself street that >> it's the street >> that the issue is which is why I bring up the idea of maybe a uh a area detail where the um businesses in the area maybe even the other the other nightclub
in the area um kind of pull your resources and you have an officer that's basically just brooming people moving people along tomorrow. What do you think of that, Lieutenant? >> I don't think it could hurt, but I mean, like I said, we have pretty much every
car down there >> at that time anyway. So, one officer is not going to make a difference more so than another 10 officers would anyways. >> I think it is just getting people off the sidewalk. I don't know if there's something you can do as far as getting some people out earlier. I I don't know how you it
works. I don't know the logistics or something like that, but if they came out in waves as opposed to all at one time, you can shuffle them off the sidewalk and into Ubers quicker. I don't know how realistic that is. Um, again, it's the area. It's just you're going to you're going to run into problems when
people get out. So, what I can say is I continue to have the cars down there at closing time. I mean, any any club is going to have issues as far as who's drinking this and that. Sometimes they have drinks in their car or whatever. People people will fight. There will be disturbances from time to
time. Um, that's almost inevitable. Every every club, every bar has had some of that type of stuff. So, I don't think anybody's going to hold that against you. Um, but as far as rolling back hours, again, I wasn't here last year, so I I don't know how well
that worked or didn't work. >> It affected me a lot in my pocket. >> Yeah, I'm sure it did. I'm sure I did because I know people are Yeah, I'm sure you charge a cover charge when you have a DJ, right? >> You don't. >> Every day people are more than willing to come in >> because I hope people don't want to pay a cover charge at 11:00 at night if they
get kicked out at 12. I I get that. So, >> and plus we're not we we we're in some rough times right now. I don't think people want to pay a cover charge to get in, >> you know. Yeah. 15 bucks, 20 bucks to get in. It still, you know, affects the pocket, believe it or not. Um
c if I can just ask you a question and you you can just step side. What do can you just tell me you stay stay close stay close stay close. Can you just tell I mean what would you like to see happen? What do you think can alleviate the problem of the noise that are when
people are filing out into the street? What do you think should happen or what would you recommend that we do? >> Okay. as it directly pertains to this business that you firmly believe 70% of the folks that are causing the problems coming out of Lupitas. >> Yes, that's through experience because
when you reduce the hours last year the the problem disappear. >> So you you're in favor you're recommending that we reduce it back to the 12:00 time frame. >> It will be dead the street will be dead. It will be very quiet. We go to sleep early. Would you agree that it would be
uh what we do with Lepita should equally apply to the other businesses that are >> It would be fantastic even that. Yeah. And I do respect your feeling that you don't want to punish him for the whole problem because he's part of the problem, not the whole problem. >> Exactly.
>> But before you do that, don't hold and wait to think about a lot because you are punishing us until you find solution. So, as you said, if you reduce the hours of all of them, three of them, Lupisas, Las Vegas, and the Colombia, which is the the next one on the right,
it will be fast and it to be fantastic. That to be quiet, >> but everyone has a fair opportunity to be heard. It's it's >> exactly >> it's still a process that >> and then again this the problem as the officer said and all the on duty, it's not inside. Maybe has 10 guard inside.
They control the the bar inside. Fine. the problem outside in the street and where they come from from rupees not from the moon. So the problem came from him and the the the the problem in the street they can stay in the street and I
think I spoke to one of the officer can you tell them to go he said no I can't they are not hurting just talk cha cha chat and but swearing and you know and come on you know we need one time I came out with with with my pajama I said for sake just go you know go home you
finish drinking dancing do whatever go home and they don't listen >> it's tough So whatever happened between the committee with the for respect committee and the officer and Mrs. Maggie, we we we are bleeding. We are just suffering,
>> you know, tonight and next, you know, one guy I came I have a my son came from Texas and his wife told me, "Dad, how you live like this? How you live like this?" So, I I was very embarrassed in front of my my daughter-in-law. >> And we're not talking about Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. It's just Thursday,
Friday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's handled. It's handled because not not too many people come. >> What days are we typically talking about? weekend of course. >> Friday, Saturday or Friday, Saturday, Sunday. >> No, Sunday. Yeah. >> So, maybe Friday, Saturday. >> Yeah. Unless, unless there's like
occasion, it will be different. But normally only Thursday night and Friday night. >> That's the issue. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, Thursday >> and the officer only come the the the the officer come only on that those days. Those nights. >> I think they have officers there uh
Fridays and Saturdays. Um but obviously you can correct me. And again the officer one officer we cannot handle it. At one time I called 911. And I said listen there's a fight and she told me the operator said yeah we have officer I said yeah but the officers won he cannot handle it can you send
somebody said no he will will the backup will come and then as you saw the video like six video yeah >> yeah and believe me not every night I take video I just sometime I said come on let them fight >> but every if it's cold or some I don't
go outside to make more video but if you want more I can get video every night if If you want me to do that, >> I would hate to. >> No, that's again I do [clears throat] feel sorry for any business. I would love business to grow and the city and
the everybody have business and everybody make profit. That's my my my philosophy in life. But I don't have you pay for my profit or I pay for his profit. >> Right. Right. >> It's not fair. >> Right. I understand. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Well, here we are.
I think that um the solution here is to roll it back. I mean, I I don't know what else, you know, I think that we need to take into account the the neighbors and the neighborhood, and it seems as if when we
rolled it back last time, it um it it alleviated the problem. And so, I would make a motion that we would do that again. And I feel badly that, you know, this gentleman is going to suffer. But by the same token,
um, he had an opportunity to fix it in the past and and it hasn't been fixed. >> What did we what did we give him an opportunity to fix exactly? >> Well, we >> because the issue was operationally, we had an issue with uh over sererving.
There's no reports of that inside. Uh, in the past, we had issues with the sound and his attorney reported that they soundproof. They spent a ton of money soundproofing the place. We're not hearing the issues that Lupita was in front of us before was primarily what was going on inside the place.
Primarily, we have the records to prove it. We're talking about what's going on outside when they vacate. So again, we don't have to rehash it. I can I I can make my own motion. I think that I can propose a possible solution there without rolling them back for
>> Well, I'd like to hear it. What do you got? So, I I think that they should increase their security. Um, if they only hire one detail on those nights, they need to have at least two or three. We have places like Oceanside where we require a certain amount of detail officers with less required for lupas.
Even if they're small, we need more officers down there. Like, if they have a detail, we should require at least three officers to ensure that when these folks are are leaving this place that they're leaving orderly. He can even also increase his security that we can
ask instead of it. I rather him spend the money to ensure that this neighborhood um their peace and enjoyment is undisturbed as opposed to saying I'm going to shut you down earlier so that
you don't even have an opportunity to make money. We can balance the two. Let him spend the money but he also can make the money as well. He can make the money, but he can also spend it by requiring more detail to be outside and um and increasing his security on those
nights. >> But now you're only putting it on Lepas. We were talking and saying that, you know, Las Vegas is there, too. >> This is the only business in front of us and and and you know, so that would be my that would be my motion to Leas. And
I would also ask that uh Lieutenant Mali look into the disturbances or any reports that came out of Las Vegas and ask for them to come in because [music] I don't think it's only lupas. >> Mr. Chairman, may I just make a couple of comments if you don't mind? >> Absolutely. >> I think that
to improve it. I don't know if it's going to be a complete resolution, but it's going to be a combination of minor things. Bumping up security is true. That's not going to hurt. It'll only help. I don't want to see you have to pay for second detail when I have every car down there already. Um I don't know if that's necessary getting these people. You have a small parking lot in
the back. Okay. Um you announce last call 1:30 I would imagine, right? The DJ announces it. If you can announce to them, say call your rubers now, meet them in the back. Something like that. Just get some people out from the front. If they call the rubers now, they'll be out there
waiting for them. Once they get out, they can jump in and take off. Or people start congregating in back. Put some signage. Anything. Say I mean I I the parking lot in the I know there's also houses back there, too. So, I'm just going to be shifting the problem from one spot to the other. But, a combination of things, bump up security,
move from that location, even if it's half of the people move out of there. Um, announce early things like that and combination may put a dent in it as opposed to putting a dent in your pocket. That's my >> So, you don't think you don't think that
a second detail is really going to do? >> I really don't. I really don't because you're just talking about putting one more person down there when it's now you have two when you need 20 people down there. >> So the way it works now, Lieutenant, is that at toward the end of the evening, say it gets to be 1:30, you're sending
directed patrols down there. >> Exactly. They send directed patrols down there in in other parts of the city as well, but primarily down here. The east side of the city will end up going to Leita's first. I'm actually very happy with the work that they're doing cuz they they come down they come down from
all the way down to all the way up. So, and they think they they finish it off and >> Yeah, they do. They push the crowds up. >> They push the crowd all the way up. So, they're actually doing a very well job. And I asked the detail officer like, "No, you know, brother to brother. They're backing them. They're backing me up. They know I'm here. So, you know, they got to come help me push the people up."
>> The big thing is we have no really place to push them unless we push them in Ubers and get them out. So, if we, like I said, you got those vehicles there waiting for some of the people. Maybe you can get some of them out of there. I don't know if we can use the back parking lot. I I don't know what it looks like back there. I haven't seen that in years. >> A combination of
>> push toward the train station, you know. >> Uh, they do they do push them, but only so many people will jump on a train these days, especially that hour. I think the trains are actually down at that hour. So, >> Well, so what would your What do you think? Do you have any
suggestions that you'd like to put forth? >> I mean, as much as I I really want to see your business grow, keep it up. I see it's, you know, working out for you. Unfortunately, not for the neighbors. Um
but from what I hear from the neighbors and taken in in um you know accountability that you know there's other restaurants around the area and everybody from what I hear is calling on Lupitas, not Las
Vegas, not BAOS. So, I would also be in agreement of rolling back the hours to 100 a.m. This would be a a good way for us to see if it's, you know, if it's Las Vegas, we're going to see some calls from Las Vegas, too.
>> Well, what would you think about amending the entertainment license to to eliminate the the DJ earlier, shut him down earlier? Is that do you see that as doing anything that would >> I mean I could see the DJ situation
being like also because I don't think Boss has DJ. I don't think Las Vegas has a DJ. And I think that this is part of you know why this place is louder than the other two. Uh but I also think that this is what brings your crowd in.
Correct Mr. Goa? uh that and also the service that we put. >> So I mean yeah I mean having a DJ works for him. The problem is you the time that everybody's you know if his place is the one that's getting packed because he's got you know he's got good entertainment.
Um I mean I I wouldn't be in agreement with with what he want not >> rolling back the entertainment license >> the entertainment because this is what's bringing his crowd in. Well, if we're trying to reduce the crowd, then I would think that that would work, but
I don't know. I don't What are your thoughts on that? >> I don't know. It's I think it's a it's a it's a hard it's a hard thing to um assess and um um
can can I can we can we just go off the record for a second? Can we talk to Maggie in the back? I just have a quick question about procedure. that I would like to it'll take literally like less than two minutes. Let me just get off the record. >> I have a question about procedure. Procedurally, what we can do
>> you want to uh we're going to we're going to recess for uh five minutes, please. Okay. So, we're we're we're back on the record here. The reason why we went into a recess was to discuss some uh procedural uh issues, not any type of deliberation
because of the open meeting law. Any type of discussions that we have relative to a conclusion have to be done in the open. Okay. And so, but there were some procedural things that we needed to discuss about what we can and can't do.
All right. Just so we're clear on that. Um, and so which brings us back to where we were, which was, do you want to consider rolling something back? Do you want to consider rolling back hours? If
so, how far? Do you want to consider amending the entertainment license? if so, to what degree? Um, and I guess those are really the only two options on the table. Um, at some point what I would like to do is maybe
bring the other places in Las Vegas and bring in uh Colombia, >> Vos >> and Vos >> and Valsos and and have a an area discussion as far as what can these businesses do almost like an association
where they are paying for a area security. But as the lieutenant said, at this point at 1 at 1:30 the police are going down there. So >> what what would that do? >> Do you know what I mean? So
it [clears throat] comes to the point where to be honest when you applied for your license, you Lupitas was going to be a restaurant, right? >> Is it a restaurant? >> Uh it is. And then we complied with the fire department also because a guy told
me are you going to apply for a full liquor license? I was that's the plan and full entertainment. I was like the plan I recommend you to do a double door and we we changed the plans from the get- go and uh so we ever since we opened we try to you know to make as as possible as we could with we with
>> Yeah. So I mean let's be honest you're making most of your money from a nightclub situation. Is that right? >> Uh I'm making most of my money Yes. in a night. Not a nightclub, didn't >> at dinner. >> Yeah. Not a nightclub. >> Not the nightclub. So, you're feeding a
full licensed entertainment. >> Okay. Well, do uh do we have any suggestions? Again, I'll make a motion to roll it back till 1:00 and see what that does. If that uh
>> I think you second the motion. >> I'll second that. Um, I would I would ask that um that that's fine. And I'm I'm going to uh certainly not um I say that we we we review this in 30 days and ask that the other businesses
come instead of putting it out for some time. Um >> well, so would would you make a substitute motion that we are going to roll LED back until 1:00 for the next 30 days?
>> Yes. and then at the next meeting come in and see how that's working and also bring in the other places to see if we can come to some type of a resolution. Is that uh >> but I think 30 days is going to give us a pretty good idea on how it looks like you know.
>> Yeah. And also talking earlier, >> I would ask for Lieutenant Mi to look into uh any possible disturbances from any other businesses because although uh these, you know, these are the neighbors that are are directly across the street. We don't know if the other neighbors have complaints, but they're just not
coming in. I remember this room was full of patrons uh the last time we were here um when when we had this issue and um you know, maybe they they do have some complaints. They're just not coming forward. So I think that if we can look into any calls that probably were placed
to rever police and about maybe the other businesses and maybe we can get that information as well before we come back in December. >> Okay. Um so the motion is roll back till one bring the other
places in in 30 days we will review it and uh we'll see what uh what it looks like at that point. So, do you understand that, uh, Mr. Guavara? >> Yeah. >> So, from this weekend, you're going to be rolled back till 1:00. So, you have to give
last call at 12:40 at 12:30. Uh, all drinks out at 12:45 and everybody off the premises by 1:00. >> All right. We'll try that for a little while. Um, if you can think of other things in the interim between now and
our next meeting, we're we're all ears. We want to help you. I I like having, you know, a vibrant business business on Shirley A. I think we all do. But the question is how are we going to balance the business with the residents and that's that's
>> I get it. I understand. >> You understand? >> Yeah. >> All right. Very good. So that was that's the motion and uh this hearing is concluded. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> The next item on the agenda. >> Take care. >> Okay. Take it easy. Good luck.
>> Good luck. >> The next item on the agenda is um question. >> I'd have to look into that. As far as a time of day, you mean? Uh just >> Yeah. No standing >> like a no loitering type of thing. Is that what you're saying? Is there a law
that no standing zone area? >> I don't know of a law that says no standing on the sidewalks as far as like a no loitering. I mean, that's something a business itself would have to put out there. Uh the sidewalk is owned by the city itself. It's not even owned by the business. >> Well, I mean, now you're talking we have
city ordinances as far as noises and stuff like that goes. I mean, we're jumping from one thing to the other. You know what I mean? So, >> okay. Thank you for the motion, but the problem It's outside now. >> It's outside. >> Yeah. But I I promise you I'll get you every day. One video.
>> I believe it. Thank you. And I hope I hope to see you back in December. >> I will >> if there's any out. If you want to come back, let's be when we go out and it's another solution. >> Yeah.
>> Well, we we're going to work on it. Thank you very much for coming. >> Can we say that? Can we say that in the letter to the Maggie? Can we just, you know, ask them to remind the DJs to make an announcement >> to uh ask as patrons are exiting? >> I respect the names.
>> The names. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for coming. We appreciate it. >> We appreciate it. Thank you. Um the next item on the agenda is uh we should probably discuss the special closing hours for New Year's Eve.
Um what we've done in the past is um allow people to be on the premises until 3:00 a.m. the drinking and uh music stuff um I guess is
pretty much the same as um your regular entertainment license, but that we would allow establishments to stay open and allow patrons on the uh
actually I'll I'll read it. The Reveal License Commission has voted to allow establishments to remain open on New Year's Eve until 3:00 a.m. Be advised that although they may remain open until 3:00 a.m., you're still required to have
last call for service of alcohol at 1:30. and all alcoholic beverages must be taken from your patrons and discarded by 2:00 a.m. Patrons may remain on the premises and food service can continue
as well as entertainment users allowed by your entertainment license. Live music must cease at 2:30 a.m. All patrons must be off the premises at 3:00 a.m. Is this something that you want to do
again this year? >> I'm in favor of it. >> I'm in favor. >> Very good. We will adopt uh last year's all pouring establishments for alcoholic beverages special closing hours for New Year's Eve.
The uh next item on the agenda are uh communications. We have a communication from the no uh Massachusetts Alcoholic Beverage Control Commission uh for the approval of the transfer
application of Rice Passions World Corp DBA Rice Passions. The next item are license renewals and for those I'll refer people to the website. There are several
listed under malt wine package stores, all alcohol package stores, all alcohol restaurant and entertainment. And um that concludes the agenda for today. Was there anything
else? Anybody wanted to to discuss >> everybody all set? Very good. So, we would um adjourn the next meeting until December 17th. I would make a motion to adjourn. >> I'll second that.
>> Very good. The meeting is adjourned. >> Awesome.