transmission lines that that exist up there by the power company. >> Uh Frank, so is this going to be under a building or it's going to be under open? >> No, they'll be self-contained within uh
these storage containers or building is concerned with they call it thermal runaway. one battery is on fire. They all start catching selfcontain so it can be >> Yeah, because I uh participated on one
of the meeters in Chelsea and they got to put a building together and have the storage inside the batteries inside. >> I haven't that's a possibility and there are buildings that are set up like that. >> Yeah. >> With the storage containers inside the buildings.
>> Right. So is the one in uh I believe it's Jupiter. state and uh but that's going to be supposedly a big one. >> I mean these have to be separated quite a bit. So you need
extensive areas and included you know large buffer areas between because they do have a there is some like a minor humming noise that generated from the batteries. Uh,
it's really not um not something that would be disruptive, but I mean it's almost like if there was a a highway next year cars going by, >> but that would have to be buffered completely. So noise control is part of the whole thing.
Um, is there going to be like fire suppression inside these self-contained units like whether it's a Anel like CO2 system or >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. >> What whatever the National Fire Protection Act uh administration requires uh
they would have to comply with, you know, they they have experience with these already. So, you know, they've advanced them to to a stage where they they know how to keep them safe. Um, obviously special training for fire
personnel would be uh effectuated in the city of Rivier. >> So that the special training would be part of the special permit. >> It would be part of that. It would be regardless it would be part of the permit the building permit. What if um the fire department needs
like additional apparatus in case there's ever some sort of event? Like is there going to be any >> I guess like what I'm asking is like I understand there's going to be training but do we already have the necessary equipment to support like an emergency event or
>> could be because um there's going to be um substantial revenue generated as a result of these terms of a pilot program payment of lower taxes. talking um mentioned up to uh
throw some numbers 1.6 million annually coming in which would generate more revenue than any development on that site. >> Well, with the oil farms if a if a tanker rolled over as it did a couple times on Believe
Mass sent their equipment to do the phone. because we don't have a phone truck. >> Would that be the same thing? Would be absolutely >> would be within the call within five to seven minutes. >> You're right. >> So, does Massport have to have an
agreement or do they have an agreement with the city for municipal aid? >> Uh, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. the fire chief could answer that question, but um >> is there anything written um currently
about I guess winding it down, right? So should the the incentives and the wonderful programs change because we're all in a whole lot of flux with all those programs right now >> and the finances not come through. What
happens to these potential unused spaces if they've started and then not been able to see it through? >> Yeah. Well, that's all that's all going to be rolled into the private process that they'd be responsible for the removal of that and have to pay so performance bond up front if something
like that happens. Now you know they say oh there would be significant finance and training and equipment for the rear fire department as a result of this also. So the the company would have to make sure that the fire department is
equipped with the proper protocol and equipment to deal with these facilities. And um they they claim 12-month construction period necessary
over 100 construction jobs. Uh and on on a permanent basis the job is limited maybe about 10 jobs but the payment of lower taxes provides significant revenue coming into the city. What's what's the distance that this
battery storage can be installed from a residential area? Is there a distance >> between each other >> between residential between houses? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. The setbacks like 50 feet. >> 50 feet.
>> Yeah. About the area for setbacks. Yeah. >> Does this uh developer uh have already at least one going on in the area? >> I believe so. In Chelsea. >> Where? Chelsea. >> The one in Chelsea is not done yet. They haven't even break down ground yet.
>> Um then Everett, I think one >> the one in Ever is still it was approved, but they haven't yet either. Okay. >> Then um >> I think they they have one in western Massachusetts or
>> let me see maybe. Um well they name a number of projects going on in New England including Boston Chelsea Haveril Medwe Medway AWAM Lello Middleton Middletown and Hampton New
Hampshire. Middletown Connecticut Hampton New Hampshire and these are substantial facilities up to 400 megawatts. Is that what they're looking for to uh doing rea or if it goes through
>> uh >> say 400? >> We're talking about 180 200 megawatt range rea and they pilot program gets yeah 200 megawatt capacity they're
looking at and review. So is that >> so the payment lower taxes is look you're looking like $8,000 per megawatt. So which comes out to like 1.6 million a year. >> So is with all these with these two proposed sites or these areas that it
could go in. Are they going to do 50%? Are they going to go to 400 at one time or 200 or is it a phase? Can they open? >> We're not at that. We're not at that stage yet. All we know is that we want to create an area where they're they're
adaptable to can accommodate these facilities and these companies have already started looking at these areas. So, we know the areas that they're interested in >> and open seems to be the way. I know he talked about my colleague talked about
enclosed facilities. I think they can do it either way, either within a closed facility or individual, you know, containers that are separated quite distance apart. >> Would that be a would that be a decel? And you talking about the hum noise or would that be a fire?
>> Very what I'm told it's it's very slight. You know, you really can hardly hear it. >> So, how do we we don't control whether or not it's open air or closed facility? >> Yeah. Uh we we have a noise ordinance, but that we
would have a we would make sure that there's substantial noise control in terms of buffer and and within the buildings that they wouldn't hear anything. >> Mr. chairman uh
mentioned I don't know if you did it on purpose but when you were talking about flex sounds like I don't know if you're a Back to the Future fan but the flux capacity I don't know if you will go there >> no you know I'm just watching all the tariffs and the things that are changing
now right and dynamics that were six months ago aren't right now so I'm wondering from a building perspective right should the developer begin and not have the finances to finish. What kind of mess are we left with?
>> Yeah. >> As I understand it, these are American products. These are Teslas. >> Yeah. >> And if you read the ordinance, it's written in here, you know. Uh, let me see. I know it's
>> under under abandonment or discontinuation of use that section and removal requirements. Um, and any phys any removal of batteries that were outdated have to be done or within 30 days.
>> Is that regardless of if the company goes out of business? Frank, are they looking to do two or one? >> It could be two. >> Same developer. >> We we know they
they're they're two separate entities interested in two sites. So, we could be looking at two. >> Would this be mostly Frank to feed uh the Suffach Downs project or is this into
uh into the >> it go into the grid. It goes into the great and where it goes. It's up to >> it doesn't hurt that the all all that development is occurring you know in the greater Boston area and also at Suffach Downs the necessity is going to be uh
increased and demand is going to be increased considerably and they're looking at different technologies. These can also the the energy from these battery systems can also support um
renewable energy sources such as wind. So if you have windmills or solar I mean they can generate they they've been used in conjunction with renewable sources such as such as wind wind energy.
>> How was that windmill doing in Chelsea? They finally get that one going. I don't know. >> I think it's time for repairs. It's been there what, 20 years? >> But she's right. You know, something like that, you have a window just standing there for 20 years. They
>> just light it just sits there. It's a waste of space. And I mean, the subsidies are are evolving at this moment, right? So, >> it's it's it's a new technology. Um
there are experts in the field. Um we sought that those experts when we designed this ordinance and we have you know >> their input. We have you know fire department's input. >> Are the megawatts the same in every Chelsea or
>> um I think in Chelsea they show 250 megawws. Everett's not here. Every must be done by uh must have been under another company. >> Yeah. >> But there were as large as the largest
one is 740 megawws >> in mid midway. >> That's that's big. [Music] Oh, that's right on the line. Chelsea Everett. Is that where that is? I didn't know they had 20 acres over there.
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I believe >> I have some information here if you want to take a look at it after the meeting, you know. >> All right, Frank. Very good. Thank you. Okay. Uh
with that we can close the public hearing. >> Yes. >> And go on to our regular meeting. Uh the first order of business for the regular meeting is approval of previous meeting minutes. We have a motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. >> All in favor? >> Yes.
>> All opposed? Approved. Next is the vote on the recommend recommendation to the city council with respect to the proposed zoning audits amendment to establish the zoning provisions for battery energy storage systems.
Is there a recommendation or a motion? I'm sure the city council is going to be uh addressing this. They'll go to their zoning subcommittee right after they get the planning board's recommendation. I can't say if there's going to be some changes to this. And maybe there always
is I know there's discussions rather than special permit to make allow them as right but uh as of now there that way it's advertised a special permit >> but that will go to uh zoning board of
appeals right for a special permit. >> No city council >> city council city council >> so I'd like to you accepting a motion? >> Yes. Yep. >> A motion by Mr. Abrams >> as submitted uh to be approved
>> to recommend to this favorably recommend to the city council adoption of the ordinance bes they call them. Uh we have a second. >> I'll second that. >> Mr. Ram Rivera roll call. Mr. Abrams.
>> Yes. Castanza. >> Yes. >> Miss Hoffman. >> Yes. >> Mr. Rivera. >> Yes. >> Miss Simmons. Herling. >> Yes. >> Okay. Voted and so audited. A favorable
recommendation go to the city council. I believe that's it for business before the board this evening. Uh, one thing that Megan signed this evening was approve not required subdivision plan for Overlook Ridge
because they're working with Mass DOT to make a new connection to Salem Street that's going to be signalized. So, the existing driveway that's behind the fire station will be eliminated. There'll be a new main access drive to overlook Ridge Drive for a new driveway in front
of the fire station which will be signalized and that's all being paid for by Mass D. So >> excellent. They won't do it until the cities of Revier and Malden take ownership of the the right away. But we have uh worked out an agreement
with the developers of Overlook Bridge that they would uh be responsible for maintenance of lighting, landscaping and a lot of other elements of the uh of that thoroughare overlook ridge drive
and plowing. It' be a pain in the neck to have Malden plow half and re plow half. So That will be the only entrance >> for Varys and >> No, there'll be a second entrance uh
coming in north right around the at the curve. >> Mhm. >> So, um the way it's designed now, it won't be a dead end. The thorough field will go all the way through and then you'll be able to there'll be a um
egress onto one one north. All right. So, you won't have to go all the way back down to Salem Street and head north. You go right from the site right onto Route One. And then there'll be another access drive right up north. Also, right right at the uh the curve.
So, you'll be able to access the site by the two means of access Salem Street and Route One. >> So, they'll create another exit. >> Two means of egress. Sale street one. So, you know, residents up there, if you're heading north on Route One, which
a lot of them do, you don't have to come all the way back down Salem Street. >> So, that exit that will be created into Route One is still going to be in Maldin. >> That's in Malden. >> Maldin. Okay. >> The entrance ramp that goes north uh
coming off of Salem Street, >> the existing one. Is that going to be changed? >> Yeah, >> that's going to be changed. >> Yeah. That'll be changed. >> That's part of this proposal. >> Yeah,
to the U to the joy of the people on Bining Street up in Malden. There's like five or six houses up here deal with that traffic. >> And going south into Boston by Lynon block. Is that going to stay the same the way it is?
>> That's going to stay the same. >> The original plan was to have a um a clo but there was no room to create access southbound and northbound from the site.
So the only can provide access north which helps our which helps Salem Street helps uh reduce some of the traffic there egress and access site. Okay. till our next meeting. We may have
a meeting at the end of September. Um possible zoning amendment that's in the works now for land that's actually in Greier, but it's in Chelsea. I'll explain it to you. I mean, people
don't realize this, but when you're coming down Route One, southbound on the south side of Route One near the Home Depot in that area there, which is in Chelsea, there's a portion of land there that's actually in River >> and you can only access it through
Chelsea. >> It's on the other side of >> It's on the other side of Yeah. So, >> in back of the >> back of the Chelsea, isn't there a housing authority? Exactly. Right behind that. Yeah. Between that and Route One
is it is like a >> Is it like a site right now? That's four acres. Really? >> Yeah. >> Is it a wetland? >> No. No. >> And the access is through Chelsea. >> Chelsea. Infrastructure
access traffic everything is through Chelsea. There's no impact on Riviera whatsoever. >> So that's next to Home Depot. >> Well, it's it's not next to it. It's It's across the way on um close to the satellite on Broadway. Yeah.
>> What do you want to do with that space? >> So that's basically behind I'll say Planet Fitness. There was a gym in there or >> No, it's on the other side. It's further north. >> Yeah. Where Mr. Tux was.
>> Yeah. Building the burn down. >> Yeah. There's an area behind there that's a neighborhood and then there's a >> that's the projects private projects >> as Hal said there's part of the housing authority there
>> yeah behind behind that vacant lot that's in rever >> so what's what's the plan for that >> is it zon is it residential >> it's zon residential but they'll be coming forward for reasonzoning because
they're looking at affordable housing project there in uh which would help reair in terms of our affordable housing numbers but it would be basically all the impacts would be in Chelsea. So, I don't think there'd be any.
>> Is there a housing authority doing this or is it a private? >> This is a private. >> Do we know who it is? >> Um, yeah. >> Does he have a is he a local uh >> Well, the developer uh
Mr. Popio, he's he's owned the land forever. >> Pop out of sus. >> Yes, >> he's coming. He's come forward in the past. I dealt with him decades ago. They're trying to do something there. They finally have somebody on board that wants to develop
it uh for affordable housing. So >> hopefully it' be helpful. We need housing. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, that's it. >> Motion to close. >> Meeting adjourned.
>> Thank you. Thank you all for coming again. Um I try to get the reminders