##VIDEO ID:1IuKsMK9DKk## e e e e e e e e e e e good evening calling to order the Rev school committee meeting of November 19th 2024 we'll all rise and salute the flag conratulations to the flag of the United States of America and to the rep for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for Dr Garcia would you call a roll sure Mrs Stacy brono here Mr Anthony cajano here Mr John Kingston here Mrs Aisha Milbury Ellis present Miss Jacqueline monteroso present Mr Frederick salala president mayor Patrick Kei here thank you we have a quorum um before we get the meeting started tonight I did want to bring up uh some some good news uh and uh if you if you hadn't heard uh last night through the we hours of the night the school negotiating committee for the Rivier Teachers Association uh were able to reach a tenative agreement and um so uh the entire school committee of course uh was part of this decision but when it came to the negotiating team uh over the last eight months there was uh Anthony kiano Jacqueline monteroso uh Dr Kelly myself Dr maaba uh we we've uh paired up very very really well with the RTA uh in you know really fast negotiations But ultimately at the end of the day uh we were able to settle upon a fair contract that uh recognizes the needs of our Educators and uh also what what our needs of our students are and uh and most importantly we were able to come to a really nice compromise we see what's going going on in just the region and seeing um these intense battles and um things like striking communities and we know that that's very difficult for our community so it was really important that we were able to um work together and collaborate and we were very thankful to the revier Teachers Association for their their common sense and the approach that we all um had so thank you and congratulations everyone thank you M recognition n sorry okay the consent calendar Miss monosa motion to approve we have a second second favor okay we have student student representative report and I think we have a new one right do we have a new student rep we have a returning student rep and a new student rep yeah yep we have uh in the audience jilea Figaroa as our Junior student rep for this year very exciting um shall I start with the student rep report yes y you okay um so starting with the student oh there we go so starting with our student rep report which is provided by the newly formed student Advisory Board um we first want you all to see the faces of our board so on the next slide we have everybody on our board we have of course Julia Figaroa a l ad zoha Hassan and Isabella Lopez on our board um these are all members that were elected by the riv High student body to be part of our um student Advisory Board in compliance with uh with Massachusetts General law on the second slide where um essentially we just have a student advisory committee that consists of five members elected by the student body so moving on to our Sports Roundup in the high school we have very exciting news from Rivier cheerleading who got first place in the Greater Boston League co-ed division advancing to Regionals uh that was the previous weekend um Rivier boy soccer um which honestly they they put in a lot of effort into their quarterfinals and had a pretty good win streak so a very good season for them and uh for River girl soccer making it to the playoffs and the Greater Boston League allstar game uh which was held on November 13th so moving on to what we've talked about this month at our student Senate we want to bring up one of our newer named committees the opportunities and inclusion subcommittee um essentially last year the subcommittee um under their previous name uh worked with uh middle schools like runy Marsh Acy in order to help students there with academics and they want to expand their youth Scholars fellowship program to other middle schools like Garfield Middle School from what I was told I believed SBA has their own writing centeres program so um the reason they want to also expand to to Garfield Middle School is because it's a little bit farther from rhs and getting that assistance from high schoolers is well needed also they're working on a new another project uh an ALS club and they are currently seeking an advisor for uh for the club that is either proficient in ALS or willing to learn ALS alongside the students at these clubs on the next slide continuing with the subcommittee they're also working with the Nan project and want to bring mental health workshops to rhs along with that they're also working together to attend the Nan project Summit which is going to be held in Danver sometime in May of next year moving on to the next slide This Is Us advertising our Multicultural night that's being organized by the student engagement subcommittee and many other um people which is going to be held on January 9th 2025 directly after the semester 1 winter showcase that will be held at rhs and of course it's open to the public and we encourage all of you to come and attend so moving on to the club report um recently for speech in the debate uh we kicked it off with novice tournament at zarian Brothers High School just a few weeks before Rivier had their annual Fall Fest which kicked off the official Massachusetts speech and debate season and I head it off with a smash we also have the class of 2026 which another advertisement um in order to raise money for their junior prom 20% of all checks uh for Uno's the Uno's restaurant will be donated to the class of 26 on Friday the 22nd also um uh another update Model United Nations just came back from Providence Rhode Island for their Brown University model un conference and it was a two- night conference and it was definitely a success everybody had a lot of fun and it was a huge learning experience so thank you very much for that experience uh lastly this is an update from from the student Advisory board thank you to Jackie the student Advisory board has been able to connect with numerous advisors and principles throughout the district from elementary schools to middle schools in order to create way more Outreach within the district and since the student Advisory Board is not just representing revier high school but is also representing the entirety of the district it also allows us to be Equitable with uh what we speak about and make sure that we're including all voices in The District so that concludes our student rep report for today thank you thank you uh so really exciting I think a huge congrats to our new Junior rep I also want to give our Junior rep a shout out she's been working tirelessly to create an equity officer position in the student council and so a big thank you to Mr Bowen and Dr Garcia who have helped create that role and so all we're waiting for is the advisor's approval and I'm want to thank her in advance because I know she sees the importance in this role so really excited to see that kick off as so we can bring in more equity for all of our students and then just a clarification so our student reps come from our student Advisory Board which is with our student council or student Senate so pre in previous years the student Representatives came directly from the student Senate which is a board that is chosen either by students applying for a position or being recommended through a assistant principal and uh or guidance counselor and previously it was uh the student representative was voted within that body however we changed it this year so that we had a schoolwide election so the entire student body was in charge um some of the students in the student Advisory Board are were previously in student Senate um but it was a schoolwide decision um and the student reps are elected within the body after the election so what's your difference between your student Senate and your student council I just want to have your hierarchy correct um so the difference between the student council is that each grade has their own student council body that's run by a different advisor and a different body consisting of students in that grade um and typically student council they can work on stuff that affects like School in terms of but typically they they work on uh student engagement creating events they're the ones that plan things like prom and homecoming and pepperall and other things of that nature um but the student Senate that's all that that consists of members from the all the grades in our school and we it is a time where it is students working amongst themselves to essentially talk about changes in the school projects that they want to bring it's it's like a open Senate pretty much okay thank you you're welcome thank you Miss Rizzo so our student Senate has always been they've all always considered it the student advisory um I have to say though thanks to um principal Bowen and Mr fellows they've been working really hard the last couple of years together to a place where it's supposed to be according to the mass um guidelines and um the students also have more um engagement with other um students around Massachusetts to learn a lot more um so I'm really grateful for Mr Bowen and Mr fellows to help these students um give them the voice that they truly deserve so thank you great thank you for your update and welcome Jalia thank you okay public speak this portion is open to the public if anyone wishes to speak come on up or if there's anyone online Miss Miss Kelly no one in the webinar not motion to close public speak who a second second all in favor I okay superintendent report um thank you Mr Mayor we have a a few uh brief presentations for the school committee tonight uh and then just a couple of updates that I wanted to give the committee in preparation for some events that'll be upcoming in the winter or the fall um and so we're going to begin tonight with a report from our Junior RC crew uh the Patriot Battalion who is going to share with us um some information on a revised service learning project that they're going to begin this year um as many of you know um they've run into struggles with their previous service learning project operation snow angel which was a wonderful program and unfortunately I'm going to say fortunately we've not had enough snow in the last two years for them to actually participate in that program uh We've either had not enough snow to call off school or um you know other things have gotten in the way and so because they're required to fulfill a mission they had to come to the conclusion finally at this point that they need to think about a different way that they could serve the community and um they're going to share that information with you so I'll welcome major balker and the officers of patriot Battalion to come up and share share with us operation World Readiness is that right all right we'll start there with the uh microphone being turned on good evening to mayor Keef superintendent the entire school committee I'm major balker the senior Army instructor for the riv High School Army Junior RTC program as Dr Kelly mentioned we're going to be segueing to operation World Readiness which is a partnership with Junior Achievement um for the school committee just giving you a heads up for January we will be submitting our request for our Daytona trip as we qualified for both our national fitness team which is going to be a mixed team as well as our armed and our unarmed drill team um which happens before AP exams so they'll be back in time without having to take that um so without further Ado I'm going to turn this over to my top three my Balian Commander they'll all introduce themselves and give you some um overview of the program and we'll end it with where we have a gap and we need your help good evening I'm Cadet sza the cadet Battalion Commander for the Patriot Battalion at this time all presenters will present themselves and their position good evening I'm kadc Guerrero and I am the command K command Battalion cons major seriously good afternoon I'm kette janello and I'm the executive officer officer for the patri Battalion as a requirement of the program we must plan and execute a service learning project the purpose of this briefing is to outline our recommendations and Equipment requirement for this year's project please hold all questions until the end of our presentation conects take an active role in the community our involvement in the community is absolutely essential to supporting and accomplishing the jrdc mission to motivate young people to be better citizens in fact the jrtc program incorporates community service and Service Learning into its curriculum at every level which is evaluated during accreditation valuations jrtc is a cuttingedge leadership and citizens program that consistently moves forward to improve a k leadership social emotional and academic skills the program includes classroom academic studies character Education team building leadership opportunities entrepreneural competitions field trips and unique training opportunities jrtc is a highly visible program with many benefits and advantages for the student the school the parents and the community service learning is a learning method that in integrates meaningful community service with classroom lessons and reflection to enhance The Learning Experience service learning projects are opportunities to acquire the knowledge discipline and sense of responsibility that are necessary to take charge and one's future the result is responsible Cadets who are sure of themselves can think on their own and can express their ideas and opinions clearly and consistently in service learning cadetes participate in a community service learning project a project where they and other on their teams will help some aspect of their Community while drawing upon skills and knowledge from the jgc curriculum content providing service can be a powerful tool in the development of ADD udes and behavior and can transform young adults from passive recipiant into active providers and in so doing redefine the perception of their involvement in the community from a cause of problem to a source of solutions important skills you will need to work successfully to accomplish each service on your activity are similar to those identified in your program outcomes and core abilities there are several important skills and qualities identified such as applying critical thinking techniques and building an effective relationship with peers co-workers and the Community Learning these skills ensured that students are prepared for the workforce on order the rhs Patriot Battalion second Brigade Cadet command rhs P Jed C Cadets will dispatch in teams to three specified rever elementary schools to provide guided learning and mentorship through Junior Achievement within the five early release dates during December through April of school year 2024 to 2025 in support of the service learning Mission as specified in the JC curriculum Junior achievement's purpose is to inspire and prepare young people to succeed in the global economy the hours of mission ex execution are 12:30 to 1440 Junior Achievement learning experiences promote classroom learning and are designed to support educator efforts to address academic standards in English language arts mathematics social studies and other Contex areas Junior Achievement correlations allow Educators to pinpoint content which will meet their classroom needs and help students to achieve learning benchmarks Junior Achievement learning experience correlate to various national state and District educational standards in third grade Junior Achievement R City introduces students to financial literacy and learning objectives for third grade social studies including how people manage their money and the importance of economic exchange within a city in fourth grade Junior Achievement our region introduces students to entrepreneurship and how entrepreneurs use resources to produce goods and services in a region students operate a hypothetical hot dog stand to understand the fundamental tasks performed by a business and owner and to track their revenue and expenses of a business in fifth grade Junior Achievement R Nation provides practical information about the need for employees who can meet the demands of the 21st century job market particularly high growth high demand jobs students will understand the skills especially in science technology engineering and math that will make their futures brigher this table shows the capacity of cadets we have been able to assign to each school as our program and number of cadets increase we are able to increase the number of cadetes allocated to each Elementary School and increase the number of students we can provide services to based on a predicted number of cadets for semester 2 there will be no gaps in coverage the cadet Battalion Commander develops a written mission statement that includes who what when where why and how the Commander's role in Step One of the army seven step decision-making process is to provide purpose Direction and motivation Cadets need to understand why are we undertaking this Mission how will the mission be accomplished what will motivate Cadets to successfully complete the mission the Commander's guidance gives the staff the information they need to focus on developing Solutions which can be general or specific depending on the circumstances we use a standard operating procedure also known as sop the SOP is a list of actions to carrying out a given task we utilize the smart model to Define our goal and evaluate the standers that were set in criteria a detailed comprehensive plan is provided along with all resources required to ensure 100% Mission accomplishment as we embark on the execution phase of our service learning project these are some of our elementary school coordination concerns that we need to address through the help of the review school committee each shared SE instructor will be positioned at each identifi Elementary School major valker will be at the PA rier Elementary School Sergeant Major calendar will be at the Garfield elementary school and Sergeant First Class Burke will be at the whan elementary school on the district half days rhs is dismissed at 12200 whereas the elementary school are dismissed at 11:30 that is the 160 minute Gap in coverage at each Elementary School accounting for Cadets to get from the high school to their assigned Elementary School each Elementary School would be required to identified Personnel to oversee the lunch for the Junior Achievement participants until the jedc Staff and assigned Cadets arri D on site we anticipate that Cadets will arrive no later than 12:30 with the program starting at 12:40 lastly we are requesting assistance from elementary school Personnel on Junior Achievement student dismissal procedures and a plan for students that are not picked up on time by their parent or guardian we have worked through Elementary School requirements to include messaging to Elementary School principles parental consent and permission slips for elementary student participation and operation World Readiness maximum capacity per grade level Elementary School student list by grade level Elementary School Adult Leone during mission execution and Elementary dismissal and security procedures Transportation has been provided for students going to the Garfield as it is the farthest Elementary School from the high school students who are assigned to the p rer and Wheeling will be on foot students with vehicles are also allowed to drive themselves to the respective Elementary School the Petri Talent is requesting these logistical support items to facilitate the operation GL Readiness service fing project to each Elementary School will a nurse be available at each elementary school during oper World Readiness in the event of any medical situations how will elementary students medical concerns be communicated to their patri Balian which include allergies inhalers or epipens the patri Balian Elementary School oic's will have a first aid kit that they will bring with them during mission execution ideally the Junior achievement curriculum will be presented in a separate classroom by grade level at each Elementary School not in the cafeteria or gymnasium in each classroom Cadets would need access to Wi-Fi and smartboards to present the curriculum to argument the Junior Achievement programs the cadetes have identified supplemental activities for each Mission date and request access to school supplies including pencils crayons glue sticks markers and paper this concludes our operation will Readiness school committee briefing what are your questions thank you um any the committee have some questions Miss montrosa uh thank you all for presenting my first question is I'm sure capacity wise you only chose three schools but why those three specific schools and are you serving all the students in those grades in those schools so we met with um the mayor and the superintendent early in OCT October and we aligned with their partner is that the correct word we have like a a primary Elementary School and one that falls under it not subordinate that's how we would call it um so they identified the three we went in with our scope of all six and the ja curriculum Junior Achievement curriculum actually goes from kindergarten to fifth grade um and the scope was brought down to be third to fifth grade at three schools and next year all schools will be invited to come to the three different locations so this is our pilot year to see how it works okay amazing and then my next question was what is the ratio going to be of the elementary students to the cadets and will there be Ault Supervision in each room as well so there will be one Gerald TC instructor at each school okay there are four to five Cadets in each classroom we are anticip based on our projections it'll be two classrooms per grade level at the three schools so we have our Cadet leadership so we call them ESO Commander ESO first sergeant ESO NC and then we have our glows which are grade level oic's it's a very similar leadership structure to snow angel where the cadets were out unsupervised in in with this project and then we have to partner with Elementary School Personnel because we're not familiar with their building in terms of Emergency Response procedure thank you Miss Ellis sure um great presentation love the preparedness um I just wanted to um applaud you for your services and to just inquire us to this is going to happen on um half days on the district half days on the district half days so I imagine that parents would would um agree to allow their child to stay at the school for this program particularly which which my guys or the elementary guys the Elementary yes so what what's going to happen next uh when we have a few more uh wrinkles ironed out is that uh the elementary principles at um the three schools involved the the whan the Garfield and the Paul rier are going to invite parents to apply so the parents will be volunteering to participate in this we saw when we thought about what needs the community had one of the big ones that struck the the mayor and I were on those half days is there are a lot of parents who are working and can't figure out what to do with their children and we so we thought this was uh a way that we could fill that need um and we did want to start off small till we get our bearings the biggest piece that we haven't quite figured out is that 1H hour gap between when the elementary kids are dismissed at 11:30 and the high school's not dismissed till 12:30 so we've got 12:00 we've got to figure we've just got to figure out that time frame and I know that we're working with principles to try to see what we can do there great thank you Mr Kingson um I understand this list could could you explain the list a little better I guess like what what do you I know I can see the list and I end but it doesn't seem to be anything too difficult on this list but I was just wondering if there's anything the services support what you I think this is what you're looking for from us I guess yeah the it's the one hour gap not this list um everything else we've worked through the elementary schools specifically so how could we help you with the one hour get we we've got a figur it out John princi we'll figure it out okay thank you and um anyone else I just want to can I Mr Garcia um I just uh want to applaud the junior RTC for putting such a wonderful uh structure together because what I see here is the um interconnectedness with the world uh considering the fact that we have a significant demographic shift in our city in our schools and uh it's just uh I have I'm speechless it's certainly uh something that I major in the program I mean special major and the other leadership team of the J Junior RTC always they always tend to think outside the box but he really connects to the global economy uh Global Market and uh it's a nice way to expose our kids uh to these realities and see really uh that rever public schools is not work in isolation but we're working in a way that it will certainly make a connection with the world and vice versa so I am I'm thrilled that you have this just reading through it makes me happy especially as a pastor I've traveled to many parts of the world I see great connection here I should certainly uh you deserve really a great recognition for putting this together thank you absolutely well said just sorry just to um just to elaborate a little bit um obviously we're we're excited that this is the project that you came up with that it was something that you wanted to do your team your cets and you you put a a good amount of a great amount of thought into it and it's just the youth engagement with the the mentorship engagement is really really good um but you know there's definitely going to be people that see this and they go well the snow angel program I just want to make it clear that the they have a responsibility to achieve missions and the last two years unfortunately they have had to on the Fly change the emissions because there hasn't been a mission and whether that's this the snow is so unpredictable so this isn't you know we're taking something away from someone there's nothing that has been happening for many years as a matter of fact it's been almost three years since there was any real substance so it's it's really hasn't it hasn't been there uh I know that this terminology snow angel everyone gets excited about it it you know even last year people it wasn't used it and it wasn't because they wanted didn't want to it was because there was no Mission it was there wasn't size of snow no and we know that we we know that Murphy's Law is we'll get probably more snow and we're going to have to figure something else out um to help support residents of need uh but that's the truth right it has to be real residents of need you know um we can't we can't just send a bunch of high school kids out to people's houses haphazardly um you know people have you know people have children people have adult children people have siblings people have neighbors that's what we need to do you know we we have we have lowcost landscaping companies that can help do this for very very L moderate price um people that have need real need will will certainly get the help and we're going to put something out there from the mayor's office when it comes to residents of real need to get the support that they need and we will be there we have the Roker program which is paid for by the city that we can help deploy resources to subsidize this and then you know but if you have a parent if you have if you have a if you have someone an elderly person in need if you have a neighbor jump on it okay um because this unfortunately is just it's not it wasn't working to what the needs of this Cadet program was there for so sounds great great job uh we'll talk about the other options later from the city side thank you oh miss Rizzo no I just want to thank you for coming up with the service learning I I find it much more um um Community um served um much more educational for not only for the cadets but also our younger students and great peer models so I I really thank you for this um and I appreciate having no snow thank you Mr fella thank you major i' I'd personally like to congratulate you on the program I can I was a member of the school committee when you first started you were solo and the first appearance of uh the ROI was at a Friday night football game pour and Rain they paraded out unfolded the colors and it it it was kind of a program that will it work won't it work is R ready for it I mean there's so many at the time and you have shown Yan's work with the staff and the increase of staff and the increase of students and the pride that they walk through the high school with are wherever they do they represent rever well and congratulations good job thank you thank you thank you good job and to our students um our student representative and listening to what you were saying Dr Kelly what I see in the future is an opportunity to partner because it sounded like you want to um your organization I'm trying to figure out the hierarchy myself um wants to partner more and be more involved in the district so I can easily see this expanding to our National Honor Society specifically who has to do certain things to maintain their National Honor Society status and this may be another opportunity as we grow this to meet the need in all five schools six six six okay I just made it up I'll make sure to get the word out and I'll make sure to let the people who would be really interested in hearing about collaboration with this project now yes have them stop down in room 138 and for all of my naysayers on snow angel I was here in 2015 when we did the mission eight times and we had 108 Ines of snow and should that happen again we will be ready we'll deploy you we we will be ready thank great job thank you ended C school for two consecutive to accommodate the shoveling thank you thank you next we have a restorative justice Community yes so the next presentation on the superintendent report is from our restorative justice team and it's an update from Linda Barber and Lorenzo are you Jo is anybody else joining the presentation and I'll I'll let Linda introduce the team good evening everybody sorry thank you um good evening everybody thank you for inviting us here um my name is Linda Barber I am the restorative justice coach and I'm really happy to be part of this team of restorative justice practitioners who can introduce themselves hi my name is Julie G Martin and I'm the RJ interventionist at Ry Marsh Academy hello my name is Melissa Hamilton I am the RJ interventionist at the high school hi I'm Sarah colum and I'm the RJ interventionist at the Susan B Anthony and I am Malcolm Mitchell the RJ interventionist at the Garfield Middle School um I think by the end of our presentation I hope you'll appreciate what wonderful people this this group of practitioners are um it's pretty appropriate that we're here this week this is international restorative justice week and um I'm really happy that we're able to come together to share with you um what restorative justice is and um how it beautifully brings a community together we can go to the next slide um it's really possible to learn what restorative justice is in like 10 minutes so um we are going to put out an invitation later but we really would like to put it on your radar that we want all of you in school committee to come join us and really listen to people who have participated in restorative justice both adults and students about the impact that it's had on them um in another venue at another time that works for all of you but that's how you will really understand what it means to participate and experience and come at the other end of a restorative justice and uh engagement um so and it's also really important for us to know that it's the point of circle is not to fix kids but it's to bring people together to really listen deeply to try understand and hold perspective um so that we can figure out ways to move forward I don't have to tell you what it's like to be engaged with people people who have very different um experiences or wants and needs and like trying to move the group in a Direction Where We Come at the other end in a good space that's what this is all about um so restorative justice is not about what I want or you want or this person wants it's really about what are the people ready to offer when they show up and how is it that we move forward together that's in essence what restorative justice is the experiences thank you um so on the next slide we have a big list of skills that are enhanced by engaging in restorative work so just like any teacher any instructor in this district has uh core standards that they have to uh teach to and assess and that they're working on developing those capacities within their students these are ours so we are deliberately making an investment um both in our one-on-one work with students and adults and also in our cour work with students on uh empathy um if you look at all of the bullet points that go under there you'll see the resonance to 21st century skills that we all need and that we all want our students to be able to demonstrate and grow up with and into uh we also if you're looking at the top Center um deliberately pour into students uh skill set and capacity for mindfulness we know that self-awareness is the building block of the castle social and emotional skills and there's a lot of that in that mindfulness bucket we also if you're looking at the top right help our students thank you that's so helpful uh help our students to learn about honest expression right speaking without judgment using effective statements and a lot of that goes into US encouraging them to uh increase their self- advocacy and the effectiveness of their self- advocacy and then on the bottom we have so much work that we do with students all the time in terms of communication skills so both asking questions flexing that Curiosity and using questions to determine the root causes of problems to get to the bottom of issues together but then also the art of request making how can we ask for what it is that we need and what we would like to see happen um this is a very brief overview of a lot of content but one of the things that I think I would leave you with before my next teammate comes up is if any of you in the room uh have children of your own I think you will be able to look at this list and say oh there are certainly things on that list that I would like my own child to experience and to come to master so these are the skills that we are helping to uh develop within the students of our schools um the next thing I I will share is that the restorative justice you'll see um these three tiers um just like any type of pedagogy or instruction that we have in our classrooms we consider um engaging kids um in three tiers the first tier 100% of kids have access to this um that's generally where we do classroom circles um and then tier two there's like with math intervention or science intervention it's like there's a smaller group of kids that up to 10% of kids that need a little bit of extra to help them understand and engage with what it is that we want them to work with and then tier three this is where the one-on-one very very specific um kids who need a lot of intensive support and honestly like I have done some work with adults too this is not just this is for our community both kids and adults need this support So 100% 10% and the T three is like roughly 1 to 5% depending on the school the time and the occasion um so for tier one it's really the core of our work um given the fact that it is for 100% of our school community both adults and students and this is really where those foundational skills are modeled and learned with the intention of building relationships that are actually worth repairing um in practice this can look many ways um but the heart of it really is creating the space for equal Voice multiple perspectives and really the opportunity to relate to one another some of the examples are listed as you can see um but it can look a variety of ways like making connections through storytelling or discussing what's working or not working within class and also um having the academic focus and lens for example with a analyzing a difficult math problem and um looking at the range of approaches on how you would solve that so it requires discussion questioning and reflection tier one circles are meant to create a sense of belonging and allow students to actually exercise and strengthen those skills that Sarah had mentioned previously and currently within our middle schools um we are teaching an elective course to develop student leaders that are kind of exploring that self-awareness as well as social awareness um to then be able to design and facilitate their own circles to bring to the larger Community um and this is really the way in which we're able to do that proactive work so that when we look at these percentages um the tier 2 and tier three are able to be addressed in a more effective manner again we appreciate this opportunity uh I'd like to talk a little bit about the tier 2 interventions uh and let me just let let me Begin by giving you all a scenario that I'm sure I'm not sure you've had this experience but I have when I was a young boy my mother would send me to school she would say if anybody hits you you hit them back of course I would arrive to school and I would be in a dilemma because the first thing we would do is we would sit down in the classroom and we we would create these policies in our classroom around respect and understanding the rules and so that dilemma in and of itself gave me agency but it didn't give me strategy an agency has to be accompanied by strategy that's what that's the whole point of pedagogi the whole point is if you expect me to do something you've got to give me some scaffolding to get there so after we've had interventions after we've had U initial meetings we've gone in the classrooms um and had meetings with teachers around setting up the the values in their classroom we've had conversations in classrooms uh about content strategies what teachers expect for a specific assignment or assessment then there are conflicts that arise from that where students may not meet that expectation we have to come back and revisit the values discussion that we had but then we need to talk about where we come from we have to process our metacognition we have to take into consideration that we all come from different spaces different places and we have different values but when we make agreements we want to do everything in our power to maintain a those agreements so tier two is about healing tier two is about making Pathways or restoring trust when that is broken so it's important that when we say sorry we are giving students an opportunity to provide uh Solutions or strategies that emphasize their growth and their willingness to participate in uh the classroom structure and in the community so tier one is about the Community Development and tier two is about pressing those Community uh values into the individual into the person and making sure that they hold themselves accountable with that agency they have the strategy to achieve tier three circles deals with conflicts or harm the goal of the tier three work is rebuilding relationships that have fallen out of balance um this work is more intensive and deals with up to about 5% of the school community at this level admin are involved through the referral process um as well as oftentimes participating in the restorative circles themselves um these circles are centered around long-term support repairing harm chronic or complex conflicts as well as healing circles um personally I've had the honor of facilitating circles here at at the high school where students have found themselves in escalated conflict in through sessions of collaborative problem solving and really prepping them to be able to formulate their thoughts um and focus around the conflict and participate and restorative circles has been really beneficial for them in finding common ground in their feelings and perspectives around the conflict and in instances after seeing the healing happen in real time it's simply amazing I often say it's infectious um and many times in closing these circles students would continue without any request of myself continue the conversations um of offering more understanding or apologies about the conflict that could have escalated um and able to be able to remain um positive community members so um where is the greatest investment of time and the greatest investment of time is in tier one the more time we spend focus on building supportive relationships the less time we're spending doing cleanup and um we need a community where we value relationships so much that we don't want to hurt them um so investing time um really helps us reduce the desire kids may have to damage hurt or fight um and when conflict or harm has happened um because we have a strong Community kids of Greater investment in actually fixing things um it's very difficult to fix um a conflict between someone that you don't know you don't care about um it's much much easier and feel and and safer to go into a space to attempt to heal and repair something that a rift that has happened between two kids um so this work can be practiced in communities everywhere and let's like really expand on the idea of community community is in a classroom Community is at home parents and kids Community here school committee central office Community is like building Administration and um their faculty there are lots of opportunities where we can come together and really strengthen our relationship so during tough times we have something to work with um which is key um so that brings me to um our I I've shared this that for you all to read it another time these common myths um but if we move forward to the next slide um really what I want to do is to invite you all to participate in this circle this idea of um we we have so many adults and kids who are ready to tell their story but we can't do it here for privacy reasons for confidentiality reasons and for time but if you can give us some time and show up and circle up with us we'll give you all the street data that you need to be able to see why this is effective why it's working and why it's important that we um we're investing the way you do in restorative justice and I really appreciate that all right are we good Kelly I just just one thing I wanted to comment on um and I'm sure you've all been collecting the data on the interventions that you've done with students I happen to be talking to principal bone about this last week and happened to see Melissa's data where there have been 82 now conflict resolutions so things that could have become fights that were not fights because of the the resources that Melissa gave the kids and how to deal with their conflict and the circles that they did um to restore the relationships that were uh in trouble and I I just think that's hugely important I'm sorry that I don't have the specific Middle School data I'm sure you could all share it but I think it is um conservative to say that there have been a couple of hundred issues between kids that we've prevented from becoming more than an issue and resulted in kids being removed from school uh with suspensions or you know things of that nature so I you know the work is really important it's it's a it's a skill set that will serve these kids throughout their lives no matter what they do uh Beyond High School Beyond College um so thank you all for the incredibly hard work that you do and for meeting our kids when they're the most vulnerable and most upset and helping them find the PATH back to belonging thank you thank you Miss milber sure just one quick comment I um Dr Kelly you actually just touched upon my only question was centered around the data so I would be interested in in seeing those Figures it's it's good food for thought and um allows us to to justify the good work that's being done so if we could collect that that'd be great thank you Miss montoso um I just want to say you know restorative justice has been around for a while but for some people it can feel very new and it can be very hard to get non-educators on board but thank you for constantly showing up for showing us and teaching us what it is you're doing important work and know that they can always be pushed back when it comes to restorative justice so thank you so much because it's working Mr Kingston I'm going to read the myths because I think I need to at time sometimes but I will say this I went to a luncheon today and the da fores County spoke and they just hired a restorative justice person in their office he's um he he while I think he realizes it's not going to work in every situation he's hoping that it'll work in some so I thought that was interesting today that that was said it he made it a point to say that at his uh discussion today so I I wish you good luck thank you thank you and uh I know that you're imploring us to join a circle I can I I will I would love to and I know that some of our colleagues will certainly do it so we'll we'll get in touch with you um and because you're your tool you're using a different toolbox right I I learned the same example you did right you get hit hit back so that was but that was how it was done 30 years ago 20 years ago that's that's what we taught so there's different tools in the toolbox now it's different levels of of acceptability that we're trying to teach these different Norms so thank you very much I look forward to joining a circle soon thank you very much appreciate the time uh Mr Mayor the next item on the uh superintendent report is a presentation by the Susan B Anthony um and I'm going to invite principal wette to come up they're going to talk about their reading Intervention Program good evening everyone and thank you for the opportunity to speak with you tonight I want to express my gratitude to the school committee for supporting our literacy initiatives over the past few years and Dr Kelly via leadership a special thank you to Christine gray our literacy coach who's with me tonight whose expertise has been vital in our reading interventions program success I also want to acknowledge our dedicated reading interventionists and our entire Ela team for their hard work and collaboration and supporting our shared goals I'm incredibly proud of the work that we've been able to accomplish together so in March 23 we came before you um and outlined our math and literacy intervention programs and highlighted the successes and plans for improvement particularly in literacy so this work Builds on our commitment to strengthening the literacy literacy instruction that began way back in 2017 2018 with the creation of a robust aligned intervention system tonight we'll be updating you on our progress including growth achieved challenges addressed and next steps to ensure that SBA though every student at SBA thrives as a reader All right so tonight our focus is on these three key objectives highlighting how collaboration between the ELA team and reading support staff has strengthened literacy instruction and enhanced our Intervention Program showcasing student successes and growth during the 23 24 school year demonstrating the impact of our strategies and outlining datadriven adjustments for the 2425 School school year to address evolving student needs and build on our progress so during the 23 24 school year the intervention in ela prevent professional growth teams focused on strengthening literacy instruction so the ELA team prioritize enhancing tier one instruction by using highquality text aligning tasks and with standards and supporting differentiation through co- teing and providing timely to tier 2 scaffolds while the intervention team focused on improving tier 3 instruction they implemented the sips phonic program aligning supports with tier one refined practices through classroom visits and collaborated with Elementary colleagues both teams are rooted in evidence-based practices working together to create effective and cohesive literacy Frameworks and now I'm going to turn it over to Christine to take you through the presentation good evening I'm Christine gray literacy coach as Mrs Vette mentioned um we should have collaborated with the RJ group because they also talked about tier one two and three and so this is you're going to hear that again a lot but um as Mrs wette mentioned that this is really picks up where we left off the last time we shared so that first presentation a year and a half ago was really about all the systems and structures and all the work it took to get the right Staffing the right people and then we were able to in the last year um really commit to a lot of adult learning and work and collaboration um and one of the key features of the the ELA team's work was really strengthening that tier one because it connected also to the the RJ presentation about that needs that's for everybody that needs to be strong and we need that to be um at its best and so the I'm going to highlight two things really that the ELA team kept at the Forefront of their work last year um and one of them is this I know the font is very small but um this is actually a literacy block instructional outline that was developed by the Middle School curriculum team through our work with The Gleam team and our partners tntp a couple of years ago we're very fortunate to have I think about nine staff members from SBA on that curriculum team so this basically is just a vision for what effective literacy instruction at RPS middle schools look like and so we really kept this at the Forefront of our planning during PGT time and our conversations and common planning with our special Educators and some key features of this um instructional block outliner that it's really focused on having a clear lesson uh excuse me a clear goal for the lesson that's aligned to a standard thinking about varieties of groupings that we can do as opposed to always whole group instruction and then really talking through the execution of a lesson which teachers don't often get to talk about as much but is what are students doing with this time what is a teacher or what are teachers doing um during this time and if we go to the next slide um oh sorry um so as second uh piece of our work that we really kept always in our conversation in ela PGT was um these two indicators from the tntp literacy walkthrough tool so this was something that Educators became familiar with through all of the learning walks that we experienced in the last couple of years but these two in particular are indicators that we showed growth in over the couple of years in gleam but were always areas that we could improve in so thinking about high quality questions and tasks that we're giving students opportunities to go deeper into texts and with literature and um informational texts that go beyond just comprehension surface level comprehension get to the author's craft and structure and then secondly thinking about student ownership are the students actually responsible for doing the thinking in the classroom and so that really gets us through again talking through the execution um what how am I giving students opportunities to persist through challenging tasks um and with challenging texts and how am I going to push students to be the ones doing the complex thinking um when their answer is not quite precise enough and I'm going to push them to be the ones without overs scaffolding or directing them correctly or right to the correct answer um and it was really these two I mean there this is summing up a lot of hours of work and Time Blood Sweat and Tears but really those two things stand out to me as commitments that the ELA team really focused on time and time again in their planning and it was me being able to say to the ELA team we have the right systems and structures in support in place to determine and identify the students who really need reading support and they are getting that in their reading support class and so it's very important for us to keep high expectations for all students in the tier one um and avoid overs scaffolding because it's you know teachers obviously want to help the students who need the support but that can lead to maybe um a little bit of lowering expectations so maintaining high expectations for all students which leads us into with this strong foundation in tier one on the next slide um this some up again a a lot of work but in just a quick summary this is what we were able to spend our time in intervention PGT doing is really saying okay we've got a pretty strong solid tier one curriculum the ELA teachers are challenging all students they're not overs scaffolding things but you have the students who need the support with you and so we were able to look at the tier one curriculum look at where students are in the curriculum what text they will be engaging with how they're going to be asked to um engage with them and then we actually would read through those as adults um analyze the text for what makes them complex anticipate where students with comprehension struggles may hit a wall if they're being asked to do with that that with great Independence and then that allowed our interventionists or reading Specialists to plan lessons that help pre-teach some of those text structures vocabulary that's used in maybe an unusual way and even sort of develop some note-taking structures that support students surface level comprehension so that when they get into Ela class they're ready to um engage in the deeper more independent work um and do that with more confidence uh so anecdotally I saw a lot of I know the the ELA and the intervention teams didn't actually ever meet together but they talked in the hallway and they exchanged emails um and it was the ELA teachers be very excited to see a student bring in something that they had learned in intervention or um reading support and that would help them engage with the curriculum and so I know they were always kind of exchanging messages with each other so anecdotally we felt like it was working but of course we wanted to look at some of the data so on the next couple of slides um this is just at the spring we were we do three benchmarks a year and this was our reading inventory that we were using at the time last year this is for entire grade levels um so not just um the students in intervention but at each grade level this is the percentage of students who met the growth goal that was determined for them um and each grade has we have work to do still on overall students reading at or above grade level proficiency but the seventh and eighth grades in particular stood out because for the first time since we've been tracking this data since I've been literacy coach they were above 50% at or above um reading at grade level so that was a huge growth um for them and for and for our eighth graders in particular which are the students we've been um really with the longest of course um on the next slide we pulled out just just looking at the students who had received intervention support you can see um the percentage of each of those students who met their growth goal eighth grade did amazing um and had um really great average growth in points um so this was the local or Universal screener that we used at the school level but then we also looked at the mcast data from last year so on the next slide you can see um nope that's okay um so this may may not look familiar to you but this is um what students and parents and caregivers receive this is the growth um chart that they receive in addition to where their student um performed at what proficiency level they also get a chart that shows where their students what their growth was as compared to their peers um so the seventh grade really stood out for a number of re reasons but looking at our seventh grade last year so current eighth grade uh the district SGP average was a 50 um the our seventh grade students all students who received SGP was a 58 so anywhere between a 40 and 60 is considered um moderate and kind of desirable growth and then when we pulled out the SGP for the students who had received intervention support they're the 76 so their median SGP um was a 76 which is is higher growth I also um just to see cuz I'm always wanting to check and make sure what we're doing is working I pulled the same the SGP for those same students when they were sixth graders and many of them hadn't been identified yet for reading support and their median sgps sixth graders was a 43 so a very significant um growth um and then the next slide which I will own up to it that my math coach partner definitely helped me create this um so just you can see the 76 is the median SGP but 50% of the students in intervention fell in the highest um Court tile so um a lot of students in the high growth and really thinking about the seventh grade team as a whole um I think there's a lot of reasons why there's really the be like the strongest communication between those two ELA teachers they are very aligned they're both members of the curriculum team um they really leaned into the idea of high expectations they tried some different structures in their classrooms that they hadn't tried before um and they also have a very detailed weekly plan for where their students are going to be which made it very easy to collaborate with the interventionist so the interventionist could literally click into their plan say okay this is the text I know the students are going to be reading in 3 days and and then she was able to plan accordingly so I I think that those are some of the things that really contribute um to their success so then moving forward I think I'll skip this slide maybe just go to the next one just thinking about um what we're how we're using the data this year and how we're kind of um how our reading program or support has has expanded so we are moving to thinking about literacy across the content area so we've really worked on Ela over the last couple of years but thinking about how we can also support our social studies um colleagues who don't always get some of the support that the ELA teachers get so we have actually at each grade level a reading intervention is pushing into our social studies or civics class really supporting vocabulary small group instruction the the Green in the middle is sort of our traditional where we started we have the tier three pullout intervention sixth grad primarily phonic 7eventh and eighth grade um they actually took that instructional block outline that we looked at a few slides ago and they created one for an intervention block so they built off of what would effective instruction look like in an intervention block at SBA um and then we have one reading interventionist with a very specific schedule and she kind of she works primarily with our L students some of our students who have um schedules where they didn't fit um so we have a lot of different models there and then um our sixth grade I think it's on the next slide here um when we W obviously we most unfamiliar with our sixth graders because they're new to us but when we looked at the data and and our criteria for um students that we might pick up for reading intervention we realized there was a really large number of students who might meet that criteria and so then we just looked at that data and said well this really isn't a tier three because as Linda had mentioned previously that should be a very small percentage of students um and so instead we said we need to do something a little bit differently and really focus on providing tier 2 supports Within in the ELA classroom so right now we have um in the sixth grade we have a reading interventionist actually pushing into um an Ela class with a special ed teacher and running these stations models um and thinking about providing inclass support and so I think our last slide is just they're just getting going oh there was there was one slide with actual pictures of the students and teachers but it's just people instead of those um those different groups oh no that's that's my fault for putting it in too late um that's it Miss montrosa no oh any questions Mr kingon I I think this is great I just have one question are we able to share this with the other two middle schools so I I'll I'll just say that you know the bigest point is you you guys have have um you're on to something right guess I'm i' hate to see it repeated two more times it's only because no our middle schools collaborate very well with each other and they have there's there's some level of autonomy but there's also a strong sense in the district of when we learn something is going well we share it with each other um you know and this is certainly an example I was going to say that to Christine like I I I hope you all appreciate how incredible it is to have a student growth percentile in the 70s and have a student growth percentile in the 70s it's really really incredible and you know you all have known we've had these conversations about um making sure that there is rigorous curriculum and that kids have the support they need and they can all succeed and you know this is just further further evidence of it great job M Rizo so I I'm just wondering if there are ways that the utl principles can improve the multi- system and maybe some of the ways you might use it um yeah I think got it um I do think that um on that literacy instruction block outline one of the um effective instructional practices is udl so that's something that is very prevalent in our conversation so we are thinking about um keeping the same goal but giving students different opportunities to get there and I think that's where um the the stations and different varieties of student groupings come in but always I think with udl is keeping the tight goal so the goal can't change um and the standard has to remain the same but how you get there in the supports you need um and and the supports have to feel um the students have to know that they're support so it can't just be giving a whole bunch of resources they have to know why they're using them and how that works for them and I think that um the Intervention Program has actually been really helpful for students to recognize like I'm I'm constantly talking to kids about their experience in intervention because it's not something that we want to do to them we want it to feel helpful for them and so I think um making sure that they see that as a support but always making sure that they know like there's a clear goal that's the grade level standard that everybody's working towards thank you thank you very much thank you great work um so just the last couple of things on um the superintendent report are really just some verbal updates um and some of them I'll have some more uh paperwork for the school committee um next month the the first one is uh the RMA update on where we are with the Desi intervention due to um their percentage on mcast um we've had three visits with desie they came out on uh October 2nd we actually they didn't come out we did a zoom initial meeting um to talk about what we have in place and and things that might need to change um they did come out for a site visit on the 17th and we spent the day touring the school and visiting classrooms collecting data and then talking about what we saw after that um and that information was used along with some focus groups um at the rney mar to identify goals that they're going to focus on for the rest of the year in order to improve their achievement and interestingly um with uh what Mr Kingston said a minute ago a lot of it is focused around literacy goals and making sure that literacy is integral to all of the classroom work that's happening at the Ry msh and also making sure that we are holding high expectations and high standards um for all kids in all classrooms at all times um so they can they're they're still developing that our friends from Desi are going to be out every two weeks to observe and uh and collect information um they're very much serving as partners to the rash team and not so much as instructors they recognize the teachers and the staff at the rumney have a skill set and an expertise already it's about uh amplifying the things that are working well uh and making sure they have time to share those things with each other so uh that's been going very well I know the team at desie is happy with the level of participation and feels like people are open-minded and receptive to the ideas of change so that's a quick update on that yeah I just want to say um a few of them were talking about how skeptical they were when it was going to come in but at the end they were very happy about it um they found it to be very productive very helpful in um again working as a team and not coming down on them and they were very appreciative that's great thank you that's good to hear um my my SEC next update is on our uh desial Nas visit which is is happening in the spring and so I just wanted to put those dates on your radar it's October 30th to April 2nd it's a Sunday Monday Tuesday oober October did I say October March March sorry it's been a long 24 hours what 36 hours I don't know like something like that but yeah in the spring March 30th to April 2nd I don't know what was happening to my brain a minute ago but um I'm going to start giving monthly updates on that most of the work that happens in prepar preparation happens at the high school level and really the purpose of this visit is for them to come in and make sure the high school implemented some of the things that everybody agreed needed to be worked on last time that they were here and then also they'll collect some data and help us start the work of setting a vision for the next decade at the high school one of the things that's going to be really important to this work is when they see that we've actually made real true progress on building a new high school um that's going to be enormous cuz they're going to understand our ability um to really provide a highquality education to our students in that new facility that's coming online there is a role for the school committee to play in that they'll want to meet with you all um and there'll be different different things probably on the the Sunday evening and the Monday that uh we'll want to engage the school committee in and as we get past the first of the year they'll send us a more specific schedule that will have details but if for now you could just kind of keep that on your radar March 30th to April 2nd for our desal visit um and then um I think the only other thing that I wanted to put on the committee's radar and again this is something we should start thinking about and um looking at our existing practices is with the mcast ballot question language um which now says passing mcast is no longer a requirement for high school diploma um the committee might want to look at what our graduation requirements are uh and see if there are any changes that they want to make there um one of the things that we anticipate as a result of this ballot change is that a lot of kids are not going to take the test seriously um so we have to think about that another piece is a lot of our um students who had some special needs would um do an alternative portfolio to submit for mcast uh what do we want to do about that if we're going to continue that practice that was had teachers um collecting papers over the course of a year um and often there would be um an assessment of that portfolio in relation to the work demonstrated by peers so I'm just putting this on the radar um we administered the retest as we were required to in November the change took effect December 1 so it's a spring retest that kids will not be required to take um we might we we're still thinking about this as a school but what we're thinking of doing is encouraging especially seniors to still continue to do the retests until they pass um because we know the legislature is a little bit up in arms on exactly what they're going to require in the coming months and what we don't want to do is get to June and have a senior who didn't bother with the retest realize that there is in some way a hurdle there so um just to update the community and update the committee that's kind of where we're thinking but more to come on that in December January February and that concludes I think the superintendance report thank you very much Dr Kelly all right so no hearings uh but we did have some subcommittees and we had uh was it plant maintenance and we had safety subcommittee as well and policies and and policies and procedures so why don't we go with plant maintenance first thank you Mr chairman um the uh committee met along with members Stacy Bronson Rizzo and John Kingston three matters came before us was number one uh through Mr Kingston's uh intercession of playground are TT lot for a small learning group at the school committee uh earlier had appropriated x amount of monies feeling that it would uh be sufficed but after um the director of plant maintenance uh Kyle senson came um there were many issues that had to be addressed I still have to be addressed uh namely it's different levels there are extensive Roots under the site so that um the allocation of funding would not be sufficient anyway um we are calling upon Ellie Baker from the city Side who has experience with uh playgrounds Etc and she's offered to uh assist so that um come the spring the playground uh hopefully will be open and operative well it up until the cold weather which we haven't seemed to have had they've been able to utilize it um any of the committee members that were present would like to speak on the matter thank you uh the second um later the second uh matter that came before us was the concern of the functioning of elevators at the Garfield School uh apparently rumors had it that uh they were shut down in their entirety uh that uh were not operative um the director of plant maintenance Kyle suggested um that uh rumors um can do dangerous uh outcomes so that if you have a question to call proper authorities and get updates on to what's going on but the city does have a contract with a an elevator operative com company that constantly monitors uh City elevators not just in the school department and uh the company is capable of repairing and recommending future endeavors which apparently due to the age of the Garfield uh elevators will require um some stronger look at it eventually will have to be replaced uh any of the members at the Committee hearing would like to speak on it thank you uh the third and final was we don't understand how it came before this committee but was bus passes are added buses uh upon discussion um it was mentioned that the additional bus routes for under a mile would be in the vicinity of millions of dollars and that's not counting the contract for the bus company is due shortly um it was discussed of MBTA passes and looking into the feasibility of issuing these at least to high school students uh it was also mentioned that there are several communities uh ever for example that does not have buses Lindfield does not have buses so R's um generosity uh in their bus program is probably one of the best in the uh City or the district rather um any member of the committee wishes to speak on the buses all right with that that concludes the report and thank you for your time may I just ask a question real quick in relation to um the bus passes what is the city looking at expanding the previous s cards which are just like students would have to load them themselves or are they looking into M7 cards which would be $30 a month ordered by schools the $30 a month was mentioned uh it was mentioned in the city of Boston they're all entitled to get it so that this is another reach out to odate people who may not be able to it was uh s not suggested but it was mentioned that uh there's even a a market to sell these cards so the the uh control would be of some uh concern but it it it's an alternative that we're willing to look at okay thank you thank you for your question thank you uh the next committee would be the safety or policy policy policy sub commmittee Miss Ellis the policy subcommittee met this afternoon at 3:00 um to review several Title 9 policies that had been updated under um federal law through um we have decided to um excuse me we looked at the language provided by the masc um in with respect to these seven particular policies um I will read them just for the record AC ACR ACA AC r acab acga and acgb we did not um take liberties with the um suggested language of the masc but agreed to um amend Andor adopt dependent on the language um the suggested language of the policy we're presenting it to the full committee now for for your approval um again these are Title Nine policies the law is what the law is and we just want to have our our policies consistent um with the handbook and the rules that we're disseminating and right now they're not consistent so I do apologize for not providing the full committee with um with the most recent versions but they are available online they are word for word the Mas MC's versions um and I could do so oh yes thank you so much they they all relate to the presentation that was provided by Jennifer King several um meetings ago the the attorney for the schools so if anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer them I just um I think it's acab a lot of them are new ones that we do not have in our policies um I believe acab is something that we just did um 2022 Dr guchi worked with our um attorney on it so if we could hold off on that one so that you can discuss it with um maybe Dr guchi and review it to see oh you talked to Dr kuchi No we did review the the prior one and the present one and it was just agreed there were there were some um distinctions okay if that's okay yeah doc Dr kuchi was present at the was present at the meeting thank you did you get that R Dr guchi was present at the subcommittee meeting thank you homework on it it's an important one absolutely um so could I have a motion motion to second can we have a roll call please Mrs Stacy brons Rizo yes Mr Anthony cajano yes Mr John Kingston yes yes Mrs Aisha Milbury Alis yes Miss Jacqueline monteroso yes Mr Frederick salala yes mayor Patrick ke yes motion passes and the third committee would be the safety subcommittee Mr kiano there was another update from the policies about a policy we're going to work on for uh building safety and also dress code do you want to give an update oh that's Miss milis thank you for reminding us of that there were two um amendments to our agenda um which we agreed to accept one was on a policy to be discussed and constructed relating to um building protocol when we have staff and employees visiting um various schools and um properties throughout the city on school time um and the second policy concerned um dress code so we're going to be revisiting our dress code make sure that making sure that the handbook is reflective of our district policies um and reviewing the language doing some homework uh bringing in students for their voice and um and updating the dress code policy particularly with respect to the high school thank you thank you Jackie thank you very much I I did have a question with that um great I think they great if these policies are instituted would we be looking at a next school year you know thinking about it you know it's for the dress code yes okay yes I'm thinking about any like major policiy yeah no that was that was the discussion it would it would um they would be effective the next school year and that way we can give ample time to um the incoming students and um from eth grade into the high school as well as the the classes coming in I just want to know if I need to get different ties absolutely thank you we'll let you know thank you all right and um I believe that's it for policy subcommittee so we will go on to the uh school safety subcommittee Mr thank you Mr chair uh we had a safety meeting today to discuss uh to put off for quote uh a security bid safety audit uh myself uh Dr Kelly and Dr sloi met with security consultant and we went over risk assessment uh our Safety and Security plans protocol and training so they gave us a lot of ideas or how we can go forward to make our school more secure as well as evaluating behavioral uh Tendencies uh more training for our faculty and um we came out of it with a full agreement that we want to put this out for bid and uh I'm looking for someone to make a motion that we can put this Al for bid motion second discussion I have a question Miss montoso yes I wanted to ask if I don't know where it would fall under but if we could add maybe language where we would like to preference a firm that has experience of doing this specifically for schools um if we could just add I'd love that we prioritize experts who have already done this in schools and have that school view instead of higher security for other things so if we could just make that amendment to add that language then I'm going to vote on this yeah I I think we can easily put that um where it requests that they provide two references yes we can say that they have to be Public Schools or public school districts that's fine just and I know that the school side is a little different in the city Side so we put it out in RFP or so RFQ okay so and and do do we have a set number that we're looking to put it on procur checklist when I talked to Matt we talked about between we'd like to come under 990,000 okay so I mean it just it's helpful when it puts when there's you can put a cap on these yes so that you're not going to get a $300,000 bid if you're no no we no we that was going to be part of the RFQ great awesome thank you very much thank you sir so do we have any other discussion can I just mention a little bit more of what we talked about in the meeting ear earlier just two other things that I think are noteworthy one is that um we talked about adding a piece where they would as part of this process since they're going to be looking at all of our security and facilities and everything that they would also look at the plans for new high school and just let us know if they were any gaps that they saw there and then um the second piece that's going to be a little bit different from um the sample draft that you're all looking at is that um we already have exist safety plans so then so rather than have that be a full part of the we need a a whole new safety plan done we want them to audit our existing plans and tell us where the gaps are and you know um to Mr kiano's point that could be a lot less expensive in the quote that we receive if they know that we have plans that we want them to evaluate as opposed to we want them to write plans so thank you any other discussion no motion to approve roll call Mr Stacy Bronson Rizo yes Mr Anthony cajano yes Mr John Kingston yes Mrs Aisha Melby Ellis yes Miss jacn monteroso yes Mr Frederick salala yes mayor Patrick Kei yes motion passes Mr kiano is that it for your subcommittee any any other news from your subcommittee that that was the only thing on the agenda thank you thank you for your update okay the um motions for this evening I know we have Miss Milbury Ellis so M Roso uh yes I'd like to make a motion to adopt a budget amendment for the McKinley School mixed use project discussed at the C any discussion great roll call please Mrs Stacy Bronson Rizo yes Mr Anthony cajano yes Mr John Kingston yes Mrs Aisha melbury Ellis yes Miss jacqulyn monteroso yes Mr Frederick sonala yes mayor Patrick ke yes motion pass pardon me motion yep motion motion successful any other motions no okay we have some unfinished business Mr Kingston when I when we when I voted for the um non-union um employees to uh as after we accepted the askme contract I was under the assumption that the non-un employees would receive the same um Sal salary increases as as the union folks and that's what I voted on I've been told that they did not um receive the non-union people did not receive all of those benefits and what I would like to do is have a discussion on that um because it's I don't feel it was it wasn't what I voted for and what I thought was going to happen so I would like to have a discussion on that please um any any questions on this so I any um I believe the motion that was made um by the committee and that you all voted on and I believe you all voted in the affirmative was that the cost of living raises approved for askme be extended to non um Union employees sorry my brain is not working anymore today uh and so that is what we did okay so on on the yeah sorry on on May 17th this is the minutes from the a previous meeting um in 2022 the wording was different um and I in my opinion it for for my vote anyway um my thought was they were going to get everything that the that the union folks get so the the motion that was presented in 2022 was that we the Rev school committee Grant the same salary increase that was been granted throughout the school system to all non-union employees other enhancements that have been added to the asme contract and are applicable to non-union workers will be granted to them I believe that's probably what should have been read at the meeting it wasn't um there's a significant difference um on the longevity piece for the non-union people for what they received and what the union people received um and I just you know it's not necessarily the employees's fault that he's not in a union I don't know if they're given that opportunity or not but they're not and the spirit of the motion as far as I was concerned was for them to receive everything that the others didn't so Mr Kingson the mo was as read so if the interpretation of every member should have been what was on the paper not assuming something from two years ago so everyone at that moment had the right to make an amendment or change the motion or enter into discussion so everyone should have voted knowingly on what was on the paper okay all right well I'll I'll put a motion at the next meeting to um have asked for the non-un members to be given and just so you just while we're discussing Mr Kingson um I'm I certainly you know I think that I would like to get a little bit more detail on what how many people this affects if we're talking about two people three people I think that we'd all say hey you know what it's it's a long it's a it it could be it could be workable we're talking about a large it's just what's the what's the ramifications of our vote what's the financial ramifications is it a couple1 or is a couple thousand or is it a couple $100,000 and just making sure what precedents we set just just to be be clear on that when it comes to taking bargain bargained rights and then just spreading them out arbitrarily kind of negates why why some of the unions fight to have unions so and that's fine I mean but I would imagine we could get grievances from unions on this and I don't want to deal with that so just to think about just food for thought sounds good also I don't believe we can bring up a motion to revote um I just want to have a discussion ask for discussion that's all I ask I'll put it on the agenda I I'm not sure what the discussion is on is it your wording that you want wanted it to be read from 2022 or I'm not sure I don't think I don't think we're being fair um but I I don't think we're being fair to the not every Union has the same um benefits understood so I don't know I'm lost Mr chair just can we just uh if I may can we just look at what the finances is and what the impact is yeah I think that that's reasonable talk I think that's extremely reasonable we should see what what it affects and and just for clarification I'll ask um Mr Cruz about this in the coming days but we're talking specifically about longevity change Mr Kingston that's it okay thank you thanks for the clarity okay great so we will ask Mr Cruz to look at that I don't think that that needs do we need a motion for that we can all agree upon that right Fantastic Mr Kingston oh I'm sorry do good um I had the opportunity to visit a neighboring uh District High School I was there for three hours one day and three hours the next um to Miss Aisha Ellis's point about uh dress code at the high school I noticed that they had a dress code in this particular in these two particular schools um they're an urban District just like us um and I I just I was very noticeable the difference in the dress of um many of the students as opposed to what I sometimes see here the other thing that I noticed there that um really stood out was and I saw hundreds of students I was in each building for three hours it was a financial literacy Workshop they sent I I'm pretty sure they sent the entire building through during the course of three hours every single student that I saw had a name um had an ID on every single one I commented to a an admin that was walking by and I said could I ask I said I haven't seen one student without an without an ID and they said they have to wear them and we enforce it fully and I said okay so I I don't really think that happens here um and I'd like to see it happen here because when I talked to another admin about it before I left they said how do I know that how do I know who the kids are in my building there's over 2,000 students here and when I see an ID um I know who that student is and I know that they belong here it's just about you know knowing who who's in the building who isn't and them having an ID on and I just don't think we follow it as well here so here's another school an urban District similar in size to us um and then I asked how many admins they had and they said they had five and I know we have seven and I think that's great and I'm not looking to cut down a five but they they seem to be managing it with their five so I think you know I I sometimes get some when I bring ask someone a question they'll say oh we can't do that and I so I say well why can't we so they're able to do it I saw it firsthand in two different buildings on two different days and not one student didn't have one on and I just I was very impressed by that and I thought it was you know obviously the you know the it's a it's attention to detail on that item and also on the dress code and um I I just think it's something that we really need to look at and double our efforts on thank you I just have kind of a quick question um so you mentioned I don't know if I caught this uh what school did you visit or kind of ly engl do we do we know the stats for the school cuz they each have over 2,000 students I do know that okay so like I'm I'm just like Curious like our school density is similar to their school density okay yeah I just right around okay I say if they can do that congratulations and I think all adults should follow what they expect the students to be doing anyone else so the um what's the will Mr Kingston of your just bringing it up just bringing it bringing it to mind thank you motion to adjourn uh any do we have any new business that was new business good all right I lost track I think all of us have a little brain fug well yeah any any second on a motion to adjourn second all in favor oh hold on were we supposed to do something to for the committee about the teach wages the committee no yeah they have they have to ratify I should have the from Nick tomorrow and then I'll send it to everybody and great well thank you motion to adjourn all in favor have a great --------- ##VIDEO ID:PigvSYRFSqk## ready for good evening calling to order the revest school committee committee of the whole meeting of November 19th 2024 will all rise and salute the flag pledge allegiance to the United States of to the stands na indivisible um we have uh ja montoso pres Miss Stacy Rizo yeah Miss Aisha bis pres Mr Anthony ciano present Mr Fred Sela pres Mr John Kingston here okay we have a we have a quorum uh first off we have the approval of the minutes any questions no okay F Warr I had a question for the warrants on page page 12 I just wanted to ask why we were seeing the summer feeding program class now and I don't know because I know we've seen them in a past Warr too so I don't know if it was just like the way everything set up page 12 yes uh what's the vender and spelli R oh yeah spelli up at the top and you'll see McDonald's down at the bottom they just delayed their build billing until the entire program was complete and build us all in September and then by the time all the paperwork was set up those checks were cut on this forant okay thank you any other warrant questions no okay uh Financial SP yes you have a budget amendment before you these are infrequent but this one is important and you can vote it um at the meeting at 6 but basically we had a commitment to do our part with the McKinley mixed use project with the Early Childhood Center will be and in order to do that accounting work properly the S Grand people are going to be um contributing to Transportation costs this year and asking us to use the savings generated by that contribution to go toward the project so here you're just reducing Transportation budgets whose costs will be covered by Esser and increasing the budget of a capital account that the project team will be able to use or some of our share of that project okay so you're just voting yes to to to do that budget amendment all of this is non- net School spending uh schedule 19 money but if if we do this it sets the city up for success in in working with us on that project and I'll just share that we did speak to the Department of Education and had um their Grant approval team approve this plan before we implemented it so we've got the approval of the state to move forward yes Mr that's what's the scho committees or the school Department's uh contribution at one time it was over 2 million are we still in that vicinity or are we requesting more money from us is that what you're talking about now yeah oh so the total project cost is 19 or more no it's like 30 yeah so just to give everyone a little bit of a rundown the the the total project so the mixed use project is going to probably fall somewhere in the lines of 30 million we have a soft goal to try to come between 25 and 30 but that is for the Mixed use meaning the the regional 911 um the School portion of the building and uh Regional sorry not Regional and a food H so the regional 911 will probably be the most expensive portion of the building and the the good part about that is by bringing on a potential third Community which we're hoping by the um first quarter of this coming year we'll have an i Ima or an agreement with another Community to make three communities we will be one of the larger Regional 911s in the state will be eligible for up to $15 million in new construction money for the McKinley on top of the annual Regional 911 expense um or what we pay for our call center will the shared expense will probably reduce on average of2 to $300,000 a year um that'll pay for a large portion of this project the SR funds that were kind of allocating now to a school transportation because it has to be it has to be spent down by this fiscal year it has to be kind of put toward something is in the tune of high six million 6.9 so now you're at 21 million 22 million and then we have a $2 million grant for a food Hub so we're almost we're 70 60 70% Grant funded and then at some point in time the city will take on their responsibility and there's also going to be shared responsibilities with the other communities to help support this construction it is a little bit of a lengthy project we have just started removal of of old stuff in there the next portion will be we we did we did bring on a a design team uh Cambridge 7 uh they're going through conceptual design is already done they'll eventually be going through schematic design and going through percentages of schematic design and um we uh we have procured an OPM and uh P pme so uh the good news is we have a lot of the placeholders in line now we're looking at we're meeting December 10th to really go over uh what's the scope and timeline of the project it's probably about 24 to 26 months from December so you'll start hopefully seeing things like esus remediation um full gut removal of the site and then you know thoughtful gut because you you don't want to remove a wall that you want to keep and you don't want to keep a wall that you want to remove X Y and Z to whatever's carrying all of that there's sizmic requirements for this building by um because if it's a regional 901 call center which will be a the wing of the building needs to have certain seismic um characteristics in case of a hurricane or some sort of earthquake and you don't want to lose your 911 call center so that's why the project costs will be a little higher but fortunately a lot of it a third of the building will be taken up by 911 but they'll be consuming more than half of the expense or about half of the expense please quick followup question um once all is said and done do the three communities share the the burden or the cost like moving forward like operating of the of the call center yes yeah that will be that will be kind of an exclusive entity a separate um rental agreement there's actually a rent structure so just kind of pretend it's a townhouse split in three onethird of it will be MRE which is Metro Regional north um um 911 which right currently right now is Rivier and Winthrop the third Community uh we're in good negotiations we'll probably have them signed by March um and then they they they will share the full expenses of everything that happens on that portion electrical cost rental cost upkeep general maintenance you name it Staffing um and then the other portion will be a school building and it'll be very much will end up falling and folding into what what our needs of our school department is okay thank you childhood to be specific right so December 24 you said about I'm just saying about so two years would be December of 26 so maybe fall of 27 correct we might have kids just in case that that the hopes is potentially late late 26 early 27 calendar year right so I'm thinking yeah we didn't open early so give you a little give you a little wiggle room I think it's actually like fall spring of 27 right do I have that right well stting late fall but with the ear the beauty of having an Early Childhood Program is we don't have to just start that when school starts do you I mean like as soon as the building is ready we can think about expanding programming into that parents are asked you got a time date and so I think if I say fall 27 I'm comfortable you know you start saying spring or something else and then I'll probably have a better answer on the 10 but I would say that that's that's Pro that's what we're hope that's what we're shooting for late 26 early 27 there's a lot of doubting Thomases out there oh yeah I'm looking forward this no I am I really am one I think one of the challenges from the school perspective is um we would like to have it done more quickly so that we could open more quickly but financially it behooves us to follow the wreck which is going to take longer because of the intricacies of that building but they're going to pay for so much of the overall cost that we wouldn't have a child to Senter without them you know so it's all it's all trade off question how many people we talking about and how it is how do we handle the enrollment I mean like is it a lottery what is how how are we doing it yeah we'll we'll have to figure that out and right now what we have is uh Melissa Lis who's our current director of Early Childhood is working to explore grants and what we hoping to do is have a full day Early Childhood Program we're going to look at some of the Early Childhood programming that we already have in the city to see if some of that should move over and we would make room for other um programming in our elementary schools where we have more special education resources and pieces like that this Early Childhood Center will be fully staffed so we will have Speech Pathology and OT and PT and all of things that that a lot of Early Childhood kids need um but we'll have have to figure out exactly how how it's going to happen who's going to be approved some of the kids will be kids who qualify through IEP practices for early childhood but in terms of the peers and the models we're trying we're really working hard to try to find a way to make that affordable for parents um so we probably would have to do like a lottery if it's going to be free we want to make sure everybody has access to it and the uh as we all know the um the governor uh is really U they are very high on on providing more Pathways to early childhood education so there has been some Gateway cities uh funding sources that we're going to be hopefully tapping into that could offer more of these services to our residents um for free um through through Grant programs I know that your your your team is going to be really digging deep into that you know probably sometime next year and figureing out how they can continue resource it thank you I'm glad I asked the question good question well I was going to bring it once he started talking about I thought it was a good opportunity to to say great back when eight years it's been vacant right eight how long has it been vacant eight years yeah oh I think um 10 years 10 years because it was the year I became superintendent W that they moved into the hill we'll give it some new life yeah thank you I really I think this is great it's a game changer for a lot of families so make sure to vote that budget amendment 6 o' meeting and then I'll is that on the six o' what happened sor you just want to make sure that as a committee that budget amendment gets voted toight yeah so that I can get it done with it'll be voted under the consent agenda okay we'll let you down matt okay thanks Matt are you sure where is money you don't need a separate vote for that outside of the consent calendar how much is it um really just a transfer not not but we do need a vote if we're transferring money why don't you just vote after the transf voting something we don't have to vot is okay it's a budget amendment Which is less serious than an authorization to spend yeah so just staying I don't as long as something happens that shows we agreed with that then I can get it done in the accounting system and the project yeah okay okayo want to move it down to motion for this yeah yeah let's just do it there just to make sure it's clean okay so enrollment enrollment update Miss Dr Kelly uh you all have it in your packet uh we changed the format a little bit I don't know if it's better or not but we wanted to make sure that you were seeing the class sizes for um some of our special needs students so that's the top of the first page that you're looking at um and that's why it looks a little bit spread out uh after that it's the traditional what you've been looking at um you know the kindergartens we divided by the number in each class to get the average you'll notice the wind the whing kindergarten has been up a little bit since the start of the year uh we've got a number of uh new kids in there otherwise our class sizes are still looking good except at the Paul R grade three four and five which is where you all added a par professional when we did the um the vote on additional money last month I think it was or could have been the month before I don't remember but otherwise you can see that we're mostly in the teens or 2021 um the occasional 23 24 uh but we're still we're still doing very well I think with class sizeing have they hired um have we HED a new par for the that spot yet I don't know I'll have to ask that it's three spots yeah yeah I'll have to ask Mr you I think first off it's great to see these small numbers like I had 36 kindergarteners so these ratios it's great for our district is the PA R those ratios higher because of Simply like space like we don't have space for more classrooms that's right if we if we had space at the Paul R we would have added a third grade a fourth grade and a fifth grade there but we've already as new as that building is we've already turned closets into offices and stairwells yeah done everything we can to to make more room there and then can for the next enrollment update can we have ratios for the high school as well sure yeah that's going to be multi- Pages we but we can get it thank you Diana the number is still low in Beach want for the kindergarden first grade second grade they are if you look down um toward the First Column Freddy there so kindergarten they're averaging 13 first grade is at 15 second grade is at 19 which is you know pretty that's where we want them to be well third grade is 177 fourth grade is 13 and fifth grade is 15 a while back it was proposed to give the residents of the Pines the option where the bus comes to continue on would you kind of keep that in the back of your mind for next year yeah and we can reemphasize that to families again we did put it out there to see if we could move some of I mean they're already on a on on a bus and just a continuation yeah um you just I mean I I know I'd like to have a child of mine in you know a class with 14 than 34 um exactly at least they give them an option they can't complain that they're in a closet thank you and we did um there are a couple of new developments that we're starting to get just a couple of kids out of I don't know the the address is off the top of my head uh maybe one beach is one of them but those kids were moving to Beachmont so the new addresses that are coming online in the city because they're not currently assigned we are assigning them to Beachmont so that you know the that's where we have any little bit of flexibility is at the beach m in terms of that would make sense anyhow it's one block away so you could walk there well it's on the other side so typically we probably would have pushed them to bfield oh where they at so they haven't across the highway instead Crossing Overfield would be as easy too but I mean it is going to be necessary to think about a whole redistricting and It's tricky because we the there and the beach mon are they're both kind of locked in by highways which makes the travel a little precarious but that's where we've got a lot of family growth happening in the Paul Riva area and not so much in the Beachmont area right now that's and and that could be changing right now with all of the new development right so it could be that when you're looking back at these numbers four or five years from now you you're not seeing that you have space at the beach mon with all only certain grades so wait till they get to middle school then we'll we'll be seeing that yeah the the influx in middle school yeah true yeah and there's certainly been a geographic shift in where more like families are moving to and where people that are having less children are moving to but it's just the opposite especially off reier Street a lot of those single two family homes are being sold people who are coming in have children yeah because there's not really that much building off the reier street as elsewhere in the city right yeah yeah empty nest is yeah PS has all the kids they play with their bikes it's a good little kidfriendly neighborhood on City lab 12th grade seven people so remember that they just opened three years ago right right so they so the the enrollment was very different when it was SE Coast than it was City lab so you're looking at the 11th the 10th and the 9th grade and you can see that 9th grade is up to 45 that's when we that's when they made the transition to okay City lab um and you'll see that continue that enrollment continue to go up Rob the asking for applications for next year yeah what's the What's the total enrollment there 113 113 114 sorry 114 that's and that's the max that we that we could fill with the staff and admin that we have they're they're designed to be about 120 125 um but again it it depends on how many kids are going out to exploratories and where they're going and how many staff have to go with them or if they're old enough if they're juniors and seniors they're doing a lot of their course work on college campuses so they're not present in the building um but Dr Mulligan is really on top of what they can what they have the capacity to manage and what they have the staff to manage so I know she takes as many as she can anyone else on enrollment Personnel CH yes I you to Dr Kelly my question was I know there was some inacurate representation of how many resignations we've had in the District so far I don't know you may not know this off the top of your head but I wanted to maybe clear for the public how many we've actually had since the school you started you mean I don't know off the top of my head you're right I realized I could have gone back and counted myself I can go back and look but and do you mean teachers specifically or you mean all staff I think the claims were it was social media right so this month as you can see there's been one teacher who resigned so the claim was over a teachers have resigned at the beginning of this school year which I I don't think that's accurate but I do wonder if maybe um people were including the people who resigned over the summer that's what I thought and who wasn't allowed back oh because of the licensing issues yeah yeah we did and we talked about that over the summer that we had a large number of people who um because the department had given us some flexibility after covid in order to make sure that we had teachers in classrooms we were able to hire some people who were on the path to license but didn't have one uh and if they didn't show adequate progress then we weren't allowed to have them back so there was more of that than what we would typically see retirees too people retired yeah we only had a handful of retirees this year but um I thought it was worth um for the for the public to hear the district's response to that yeah and I'll I'll certainly get you the the full number for her next meeting but it's not like since school started we have not had 80 resignations no it's not accurate thank you that was all anyone else donations and Gifts more Bill trips Middle School Lottery Mr Kingston I was wondering if we could look into the feasibility of not having a lottery my thought is if potentially if we weren't moving um students around the city that bus capacity that would be freed up could possibly help with cutting down the walking distance of other students so go to like neighborhood middle schools the thing that and when parents ask them like who decides what neighborhood someone at Ridge Road is that or if someone who decides you know people look in when they think of Wayland they think of the surrounding streets for whan the same thing I mean SBA the same thing with um rumy but there's people that live way outside so who's to say where they should go because that's their District well it would have to be a re a redistricting of of that but I know what you're saying there's no such thing as neighborhood set in a sense because well three years because we'd have to get the school ready for Middle School how much would we save um I can look I can look into that I I don't think it's a ton of money Transportation I mean you're not planning on using my understanding from past conversations with you was we're not planning on using I mean this will be a middle school someday but not tomorrow right yeah right I mean it so to say it's only two three years because the new school's open that's it's not helping the middle schools at this it will at someday but not right away yeah it's going to take a little bit of time like if the um New School opens in September of 28 let's say um so that's when everybody's out of here is over that summer I would imagine um and that's when the city is going to have the huge Debt Service for the completion of the high school um I imagine it might take a minute I don't know where where the city will be financially but um um to go back to the msba and say that you wanted to do a rehab of this building um right away uh might be a stretch on the city Crawford I'm just you know my own impression talking the more you have to um repair later on Poss yeah there my point is that that if we did reject for the middle schools it's not something years or three years I would agree yeah sure that's all yeah I would agree with I would with revisiting it seems like the the purpose for which the lottery was in place in the uh initially is no longer um necessary because I think it is so I I think well what I worry about is kind of what Stacy was just saying like the people who think that they live in the Susan banthony District or the Ry Mas District um is a much larger number of people than the people who think that they live in the Garfield District so the school committee would have to come up with their plan for how they're going to delineate where the neighborhoods start and end and and all of that um like I'll just a quick example off the top of my head unscientific no data to back this up but I would bet that a lot of people who live in the PA neighborhood think that their middle school should be Ry Mas but when you think about how how undensified it would be Garfield right but that's where there's going to be some tension between different Elementary neighborhood schools associating themselves with the middle school and I think it's worth the conversation because we've we've heard it from community members whether their neighbors or constituents who email us for us to at least have this conversation because although we don't have that many kids who don't get their choice we do have real situations where people live right across from the school but they don't get to so then that also adds to traffic within the City when I have to drive drop off my kid across town but they could have just walked and I could have seen them from my window so I think maybe just having the conversation whether it's we create a plan or we look at visibility first and then we could do a public hearing or form whatever's easier for us so we can start the conversation with the community now than later because it will take some time yeah and I would just suggest that as part of that we look at the Paul Rea Beachmont neighborhood and see if there is something that we can do there to alleviate the overcrowding in the Paul reer that would probably be for us what I would like to see probably run some models I mean for sure on on on all of it and you see if this impossible do parents I don't know if parents really know about that option that Mr sella had mentioned that you know about possibly going the best kept secret I've never heard anyone mention that until you just said that that there was an AR they did a while ago it was a while ago we might not have done it this year to be honest with you I don't I feel like it might have fallen off my radar okay so that's something that we could do as well is kind of um do a Communications push on on that well the other thing to do sorry again the other thing I mean obviously for next school year is enrollment an enrollment cap if and say in if you're a new student right usually the kindergart in through3 the new kid rolls and you're at 23 24 and Beach wants at 15 the new enrol le unfortunately doesn't have a choice first you're not just placing them they're a newer they're a new student so they don't know anything down they're go to this school where there's not you don't create an option the more options you give the more people y that's really smart I like that idea you know and it's fair to students who already have been in that school yeah we and one thing I would look at with that is is there a sibling because we usually let the siblings Stay Together we talked about this one time and people went back to who owns and my kids have a right to go there first to who rents and it's like so they brought that up too I'm sorry yeah no I I think the idea an enrollment cap and I mean we have the students that we have now yeah right I think if if you look back at the onset um all the seats were filled technically in the neighborhood schools there was and then any who came later in the school year went to Garfield no matter where they live they could have Liv on Sant Street or whatever um apparently the leadership of the Garfield felt dumped on that they were getting all transfers and and not not that they weren't capable of Performing and that started the record while I live across the street from the school how come my kid can't go where somebody just moved in in October November and they're going to it so I think that this is where when we talk about redistricting that's got to be not just kind of suggested it's got to be done and then enforced because you're not going to satisfy everybody yeah and luckily the numbers have I mean there was one time I thought there was going to be a revolution um then they talked about siblings well you know I've got somebody in this grade and that grade have to go Cross City and everything else until this becomes online nothing's going to be perfect and there's no chance of putting a third floor on the par of there right I mean there is it's a construction project but one of the things msba does require I think the May's head's going to pop off I don't I'm just I'm just telling check I'm just telling uh one of the things that msba requires us to do every time we build a building is make sure there is expansion capacity so there is a possibility to build that it's just the funding and um you know how you could do it with the school well yeah it would be really tough to do it with the kids there whole floor over the why not they put a whole building scene over but you got you got a pack down there that's not even utilized apartment probably would do an addition rather than another floor you know there there's plenty of that's when that when that decision was made between the um par beer and the McKinley um it was stopped in order to build a middle school mhm thus funds became worth not worthless and 8 million wasn't worth 8 million and they had a cut back on the part of there the original plans were for a bigger school oh for a higher school really for more more rooms and everything else so that was just a decision that was made fin come back to bite you so but there is this that there's there's a ton of land there I don't know if they can build up if the if the present site the only time I've seen a building like that was massion where they had steel beams on the outside they went all the way up you're right friend no that's true you drive by it all the time medical Builder next door just sold for too much so so what I can start doing is taking a look at the data and pulling how many kids we have from each of the different Wards is that the way I should look at it or sure what I don't think Wards are relevant no Wards are not relevant okay so even those AR design best so maybe what we should do is at a next meeting maybe and maybe it's a subcommittee meeting I don't know look at where people want to draw the lines for the neighborhoods great it would be good to have maybe if we could have a breakdown by street is that possible to have a have that data like how many kids so that we look on a map we can kind of see where the yes yeah the bulk is see if you go by WS WS are divided down the middle of the street one half could be w three the other half could be W two bad one's not some of it makes Geographic sense but some of sense you sorry MRC I'm sorry I think um Aisha's point is good and I know it's gonna take a while so maybe we can revisit this at the January meeting give two months and then that's when we can continue to have the conversation maybe just have it as a regular agenda item because it will warrant multiple conversations and planning um as we try to find a solution for the entire district and Mr do you know if there's any um like Consulting groups or grants that might like I know that they've been Insurance before who have done like studies of this nature that maybe we could for the uh the like to redistrict redistrict yeah to like do the whole thing for us it's got honestly there's so many kids with so much talent that we just don't have us us older this older generation probably find we could probably find someone that could do it really quickly with census data and and population we'd have to look at the enroll I think the the getting into your books with the enrollment dat yeah we can do that and then they would you know Excel spreadsheets spr addresses and we could also use AI like we could use a free AI software put in the information and have it start for us okay you're speaking Spanish to me right now speak me but in short someone could probably do it very quickly okay here it sounds like Jackie has tent if you w to I will send the sheet he's good I forgot what it's called it's called play something but there's apps that people Creed on there for a lot of things and they're adding more like that so I'll see if they have something on there already if not we can create our own app feed the information ourselves and the AI can give us what we want you know who we should check with Jill herwick yeah yeah okay right up we have a Stats teacher in the class somewhere we do we do we teachers that are very talented with all of this stuff good stat students yeah oh that's right very good there you go very good you got the answer redistribute the uh the work yes great idea all right we'll see what we can do on that front Okay next great um and discussion about City lab um going into the high school part of the high school yes sir okay um I think this is a true statement we're kind of banking on subject Downs to pay for the high school I think that's a somewhat true statement so that that would necessitate there's going to be a lot of building down there and there's going to be some hot RS I'm sure which those kids would probably go to the Beachmont school because that's the closest school to them without crossing the highway yet as far as I know City lab is going to stay at Beachmont tying up I'll call it Elementary space I also didn't I also don't get why we don't I know City Labs at Beachmont because we don't have space to them here I totally get that but space in the new high school I feel will be available I think putting high school kids with high school kids would be a good idea as far as the train goes I know they go to Boston a lot I see the Facebook pictures but wonderlands right across the street so it's not any further than beachon station for sure so my question was I and I've talked to a couple of parents said to me it's not you know they said it's City lab going to the high school and I said no as far as I know it isn't and they asked me why and I said I honestly don't have a good answer um so that's why I'm asking yeah so I know that uh a couple of parents John St metropolis and uh John matelli brought this up at the last building committee meeting that we had this is a decision that would have had to been made in 2016 when we first applied to the msba we would have had to tell them that we were merging two schools together similar to the way that when the middle schools were done they had to explain to the msba how they were going to have the themed middle schools and that's what was going to be different about them there's a lot of processing that goes in before you apply and if we wanted to merge two schools together which would have changed I know it's only 100 kids but they still think of that as a difference in enrollment and the programming structure for each of those different programs would be different we would have needed to tell them that's what we wanted to do from the beginning when we first submitted our application to msba and we didn't do that um so we can't just move them in because we've told the msba and they've done all their data crunching and everything else based on what size school is going to be and the ones who dictate money the money and and the size and the students and the programming and all of that um and there are a lot of other things like people might not realize that one of the reasons um seast when it was SE Co now City lab but when it was seast one of the reasons it went to Beachmont is because there there were a lot of kids for whom the confusion of this building did not was not conducive for their learning needs and so part of the reason in moving that program over to Beachmont was to facilitate what those kids needed in order to be successful um there have been some there was a lot of worry about it at the time I don't know if any of you tracked this but a lot of the Beachmont parents were very much afraid of what was going to happen when the Sea Coast kids were in the same building as their little ones and that turned around 180 degrees uh within a couple of years and those kids now have great relationships some of some of their experiential learning is actually in the beach bond school doing co- teing and learning how to be teachers and and things like that so there are a lot of different reasons why City lab is where it is um the tea was a big one too John you're right because of the proximity there um I'm just concerned about elementary space I really am yeah and school isn't going to help the elementary it's not exactly and that might be a concern that the school committee has to address but the solution won't be to move them into the new high school and add place to put them also if I'm not mistaken the build I forget their acronym the building authority msba yes they would not fund a project that put an alternative education School in the same building space as the high school so we would not have received funding to have this but either way I think these ideas could have been brought a decade ago not months before BL breakr blueprints are approved but we literally would not have received funding and we wanted to put two schools together yeah or or we might have but it might have it looked differently we just can't change what it is now that that we've want gone to them and said it's this thing and they've gone through us with that twice actually you know what I mean like there's been a lot to this project and they've stuck with us and they're funding this project we can't then turn it into that project um and we never know what the numbers are going to be at Beachmont hopefully they're not going to go down at all because when you move Middle School at Garfield out you might just want to keep Beach want like a city lab and those students go there there's a lot of different things that the think about you know when it comes to the moving out the middle school that's going to free up yeah with the while I we're discussing this when this is renovated for middle school possibly the L could come up here true yeah and that would fre up T views the TA access which I I realize is important to them no I do it's just I don't see I don't I think I'm a realist I don't think I'm a pessimist at all I'm very hopeful like a very hopeful McKinley project that's that makes my day but I don't see no offense Mr may I don't see the city coming up with a substantial amount of money to do this building over in four years well sit here vacant sure understand I think um you know there's I we we probably won't be able to um and you're not being I'm not blaming anyone I'm not saying fault on anyone being a realist but you're right there's also that other decision do we just flip the lights off and I think that we all agree that that's not a good choice we have a place like this large gymnasium are very much we very much have ideas to put it to good use the different the different I call faculties right yeah um and potentially even be a generator you know meaning people are looking for Indo space and you know maybe the recreation department handles that are Wing you know and don't forget we'll still have 100 staff members in this build staff so no I think there'll be some uses for the building I don't mean it that way it's just not going to help in my humble opinion it's not going to help it's not going to help the other problems that we face um and I'm worried about if you know a suff down gets built out and we end up with a bunch a bunch of students from there um which is a possibility plus this building I mean the the building at the Pines hasn't been occupied yet so that could be more kids carer right um there's more construction on the beach so that could be some more and plus whatever suff FS adds to it I mean par to me par and beachmark could you know potentially par is already squeezing um and I don't see you know beachmark could be around the corner I know some of the classes at beach small but not all yeah so I mean I know there's some room there but there going along with what you're saying the length of it quite quite possibly when the new high school is built the lab come up here along with the employees that are already here I mean that's at least a narrower window of a possibility but this is where you discuss it not four years I have a question is there like I get that you know the school's old but there is some you know good learning that's happening here and students are using it now is there is there like something as to why we're not considering merging it even though it's not it's not a new school like you mean why don't we just do a rehab and keep the high school here no I know that I know that even with the rehab like an applying that's that's costly and it's going to take time and maybe we could do some some rehab paint the place but but I mean but why can't the middle school kids Why Can't This Be A Central Middle School even even with some whatever we can do to improve it I just don't know why we're not we wouldn't have to utilize the whole building like correct you know we can renovate portions portions as we go I just I just don't want to take that off the table because yeah no I agree I mean I I think that's that's a great strategy the reason why we said that this building would be better for a middle school than a high school is because schoolers don't have the same requirements for lab science that the high schoolers do and that was the biggest deficit here that a there weren't enough labs and be the ones that we have our defun right you know so um that's not as big of a concern at the middle school level um so I don't know maybe there is a way to yeah do a little bit I don't think that I don't think anyone wants to see a vacant building for a long period of time there's probably a point where everyone needs to take deep breath yeah you know and and assess and then maybe do a building scope of work that could be more just you know in not internal but getting things fixed you know we don't want to also go into a position where where we we talk about the school having issues and then five years later saying hey come on in move in but the but the but real primary issues were this is not an adequate facility School correct you know but but and I agree with John I I think we need to have some um foresight here and use some foresight because there's a lot of there are a lot more kids to come yeah yes and yes and no we we we we you know if we went on the what we thought people were saying 10 years ago we would have had 10,000 students by now and I I'm not defending growth but you know it's it goes both ways uh let's just use suff Downs for instance it's um you know by time it reaches its maximum capacity on the reair side we're probably 15 years out um they I and unfortunately but fortunately a lot of those residents don't really house or they're not really family oriented this the occupation there right now is are mostly Studios and they're 500 square foot studios and 700 square foot singles so it's not really conducive to families um and you know that's that's more what's happening in the the growth in our in on the beach in in in uh in which is good but it's but it's also good to have have some foresight right these are the escape this like an escape hatch and when when we have to when we have to do that we'll do it like you know that we'll do it and we'll figure it out it's always one of those where you know how does it all make sense agree if I may Diane what you may want to look into is would it be feasible upon opening the new high school to transfer that year the middle school to here in other words according to code I think that you're going to have to find out what it's going to take in other words if the building's being used right now and the high school is opening next September could the Middle School come here without major Renovations I I I mean just off the top of my head I would say yes you know like this building is not has not uh had any safety violations or we're thinking renovation at least I'm thinking renovation it's going to shut down and they're going to have to come in for two years and and make a major project the problem pain the problem I've had is I've had parents say if I can send my kid to SBA or rney or or Garfield or whatever you know why do I want to send them to to the high school as is and I don't know I'll be honest I don't have an answer for that the answer is that's where they're going to have to go that's where it is yeah choose no no I'm just saying oh yeah right I can't believe no one else has heard someone say that that seems hard to believe I mean is a Central Middle School she has her hand up I did so you know and it's good to talk about what you want to do for the lottery and I understand um how people are going to you know I'm running because I'm going to change the lottery and it's hard to do and we'll be changing it for what would be a couple of years which we might not even have to do for a couple of years because they might be able to come here and the only Community people that complain each year are the ones that are going from into Middle School those are the ones that are doing the complaining that year they don't complain the year before they don't complain the year after um they complain the year that it's their child and then their child is happy when I mean my girlfriend lives right on East Mountain and was fuming that she didn't go to RMA I told her go see Dan blame Danielle but she's at gothfield absolutely loves it so it's just the parents that have an issue really with it and to change things around for a couple of years is I think a lot of work I think we need to concentrate Elementary that's where I think our biggest concern should be right now yeah well and that's the with the point that that Freddy made if we if we could do minimal um Renovations here I still don't think that in one summer in two months time we can get everybody out of this building into a new high school and then get everybody out of three other buildings into this building like the logistics of that um I think would be a lot I think it's going to take weeks but it still should be discussed when it's GNA happen yeah yeah because I mean it's not that the walls are coming down and everything else so right let's just that well we're getting the ball rolling now we get a plan going forward and we'll just keep chipping away at it until something makes ideal sense and we can see if it's Garfield or um whan that might need the extra Elementary space and if those of the middle schools that have to trans us yeah yeah we do it all right we don't have time to let only figure out Elementary first and then figure out if we can figure out all of it together because it has to work together all right uh just one thing if you're all okay with amending the regular meeting agenda we had a the in security meeting earlier today and the policies and procedures and they would both like to um give updates on their report of the subcommittee so our folks okay with amending that yes yes okay so then motion to return second all in favor