we were say we were saying that and I don't always agree with you I was about to say that's an understatement but yes I appreciate oh you know they close schools already and stuff yeah I I heard yeah it's supposed to be oh the weather tomor so they already closed the schools full day because it's going to be ice and the
timing is Dreadful it starts like at 5: in the morning goes to 1 so if you can do Zoom tomorrow it's going to be like the ice I think is going to be more problematic than anything else test it test e spe SE
everybody ready good evening this is the Ridgewood Village Council public Workshop the date is February 5th 2025 the time is 7:30 that's me that's me
yeah what do you have yours at Evan I think yeah can you hear me at least can you guys hear us on this no well if not here why don't you turn them off go go to this for now and we'll fix that later let me just try it one more time I think
I'm do you want Mark to come forward we're having some technical difficulties so we're going to take it slowly so mine's working I don't know if that may have been yours that was can you hear aan Elli go like that yeah can you hear me at all okay we better can you hear
me good all right we will proceed no idea I can't fix ask a gentleman behind you it's it's me that's me I don't know if it's so sensitive it's definitely me okay
okay yep okay are you sure yep good here we go adequate notice of this meeting oh excuse me the time is 7:33 p.m. notice of this meeting has been provided by a posting on the bulletin board in Village Hall by mail to the Ridgewood news the record and by
submission to all persons entitled the same as provided by law of a schedule including the date and time of this meeting roll call council member Mortimer here Deputy Mayor parin here council member whites here council member
rrad here and may have Vos here will you all please join us in a salute to our flag I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all and let's go right to public comment uh hi there Ellie Gruber Richwood um a note to the community regarding plans for shedler was disseminated a
week or two ago this morning I was really lucky to attend a workshop for science teachers grades kindergarten to 12 besides having a lot of faith in our teachers the main thing thrust of the
meeting was that facts matter and that's why I decided to come tonight because I was really thinking about that the facts matter so here's a few facts about shedler Fact one a burm was constructed
for two reasons one the soil was mostly free and two concrete Highway barriers AB buding Homes are not noise barriers in fact the highway noise is spread for streets many streets streets away from
the barrier Fact Two the schoolhouse museum is on the list of historic places the entire 7 Acres of shedler is also listed on this list of historic places fact three the house cannot be moved as
it is composed of add-ons over the past 200 years it would never be moved like the Lester stable was moved a mover would look at it and say no it cannot be moved fact four the residents dotted every eye crossed every
te in 2017 to come up with a plan for the entire town a medium-sized field and we can argue about what we knew 2017 about coconut turf or not but they
came up with a plan a medium-sized Field trees a walking path the house a community park the P the plan was not perfect for all it was perfect because it was a real compromise and all that has happened in
this past three years or two years is that you have spent money you hired a total incompetent you have spent money countless hours of your time in you could have had people playing on that field by now as a result we got soil
testing we have sides arguing with each other what is the purpose of this Glenn school has two Fields three Fields you could play at you have third over 30 playing fields in this town why is this such a tremendous issue and all you're
doing is is dividing this town when you should be unifying the town and that's if I had more time I'd go into it more but thank you thank you Ellie good evening Ann loving Ridgewood resident um my husband and I had the um
pleasure I guess you would say of sitting through your meeting the other night the budget meeting it was very interesting and thank you for all the work and hours that you and all the administrators are putting in I did have a couple of comments um about the
meeting I did call in and my hand was raised electronically but I wasn't recognized so I didn't get to talk but here I am now first of all why was a tax collector hired at a higher salary than budgeted for um I thought like if you
advertise a job and there's a salary that's the salary so that was one question second question is how is it possible that a female employee or for that matter an employee of any gender can step out of an office and see men in
their underwear this should never have happened once and I can't believe it hasn't been addressed immediately for everyone's sake I don't think the men in their underwear want to be seen by anybody either next point is the uh Village
manager said in a discussion about leaves that the more trees we plant the more leaves we have to pick up as if it was like a see what you're going to get by planting more trees just commenting on that next uh the deputy
mayor asked about whether bagging leaves could be better than putting them in piles on the street and it was my impression that her suggestion was summarily dismissed and I think that really should be looked into there are towns around us that require that leaves
be bagged there are also some towns that don't collect leaves at all but I have watched the process with two trucks with the uh like pushers and somebody driving each of those and two front loaders somebody driving each of those and a container
truck somebody driving that and somebody with a leaf blower it's a very labor intense process whereas if you had the leaves bagged you got somebody driving the truck and somebody chucking the bags into the truck I just don't know all the
details but I was dismayed that the deputy mayor's question about it was just told couldn't be done um a next question and maybe I couldn't hear this clearly but it sounded like a
$115,000 raise was given to one employee who apparently checks the Recycled trucks that come in again question mark maybe I didn't hear this clearly but this was referred to as a slight raise by Mr rudower $115,000 sounds like a
pretty good siiz raise lastly and this is not regarding the budget meeting um since the mayor took it upon himself to publicly endorse a candidate for Governor from the deas recently I would therefore feel free to
say that if anybody wants to sign a petition to get Stephen FIP on the ballot to be in the primary please see me thank you thank you an anybody else seeing no one I'm going to close
public comment I'm going to open this up to the de to address any question any any responses to any questions I will respond to one thing in and that is that it did not show up on this screen that
you had your hand raised my apologies again uh a technical snafu but I uh no one here especially me would ever not recognize you we did have one caller and you might want to we can talk after that we acknowledge but then the caller fell off I don't know that was on Monday
meeting Monday's meeting we had one person and they dropped and then they said okay forget it it's over and and actually we didn't I didn't even have a screen if you recollect um and if you go to the videotape it'll show I don't have a screen like I do now we rely on um our
technical support uh in the room behind you uh to tell us when someone is on screen and so they said there was somebody and we waited and then they said they fell off so if that was you again our apologies was a technical
difficulty anybody else yes I did want to respond to Ellie gruber's comment um you said why is it taking so long at shedler well one reason is the D has told us we have to clean up the contamination there and that it takes a
long time to analyze to design to execute and uh so that is one very significant fact so I too wanted to just jump in so one of the things with shedler upon
taking RC Evan and I we have haven't really spent money outside of the testing so a five under our watch since joining here I think it's $500,000 which went to that we did hire a historical consultant same as conell and hickey was hired for the house
conell and hickey's budget for the house was $250,000 I'm not sure what we brought in the park assessment for we did hire Peter Prima I don't think it was I don't want to quote it because it'll come back to me but it was below $50,000 the money
since I've joined here has been the new bonds have been expressly to respond to the residents desire to have the property tested and rightfully so that's that's Point number one two in addition to being you know under now with the D
on this terrible situation for the neighbors and the community with the soil contamination that nobody up here had anything to do with were because of the historic declaration at the beginning we joined and there was no approv approved plan with shipo so couldn't have taken our seat and begone
to move a single tree without shipo we have been unable to go back to shipo until we deal with the remediation because it's insensitive we don't know the scope or the scale of the remediation for the neighbors for the town for the taxpayers and it's going to
be expensive so Evan and I we have spent our time and money taxpayer money testing and and moving it so before the D gives us the green light we also need to get another green light from shipo we're stuck and it is super frustrating
equally frustrating and I'll go to my we don't have a tenant and we don't have any public glamoring anymore for the house um we've been trying very hard to get two people into the house and I'll do it in my report but the house has been we've issued the co and we really
don't have a lot of community engagement on the next step for the house so I just want to make sure shipo we don't have any approval we are encumbered by a state agency that is a direct result of the historic declaration the money that we've spent has been expressly in
primarily on testing and rightful testing because it's contaminated so until we clear D and shipo the project stuck and that's that's actually just a fact yeah the only thing I was going to add was and I think you hit upon it was
regardless of what we do there we have to remediate the soil I think you know that's one issue I think we can all agree on um and I think we're going to continue to do that that's something I think our hands were tied on and I do think the right thing to do is again remediate the soil fix that before anything goes in there and one more
Point too because I know Evan wanted to says the only material change that we made to the 2017 plan was the size of the field the S but but everyone there's a hardfought plan and the only reason the facts that led to the change in size
is the persistent flooding that has left the board of Ved on insured on their field space and us paying three times to remediate a field in the flood plane so the only material change from the 2017 plan to the plan we intend to put forth is the size of the
field anybody else um mayor with regard to miss Loving's comments um first I think it should be clear that our current tax collector was promoted from within and while that position when the previous
tax collector was not not reappointed was advertised and interviews from both internal candidates and external candidates were conducted um the salary adjustment came because that person was being promoted as opposed to being brought in at a specific salary from the
outside so I want to be clear about that with regard to the recycling facility um I think Mr Hamlin and I don't want to speak for him um but having been set across from him at that meeting I think he was trying to make a point that down
at the recycling and Parks division it is a very tight space I've been in that space I've toured that building both inside where the employees gather um the locker room area the office area the garage area um there are a lot of employees in a very small space and I
think he was trying to accentuate that fact to the council certainly if any employees were ever made to feel uncomfortable um at least during my tenure here we would address that immediately that concern has never been brought to me as a matter of fact I never heard that story that was shared at the budget meeting until Monday night
um but on a larger scale this is the problem we're trying to address right even the exterior of that building is problematic in the driveway area you have residents coming in to drop off their recyclables you have Parks division employees and recycling
employees trying to jockey for space sometimes they have to move one vehicle in order to get the piece of equipment that they need out and deployed um and we're trying to fix that spatial issue both inside the garage and outside in the driveway area uh with regard to the trees I think I was stating a fact when
you plant more trees you're going to have more piles of leaves in the fall that was never in any way meant to um be critical of planting more trees as a matter of fact last year we again um appropriated in our capital budget a significant amount of funding um I think
300 $34,000 uh to plant new trees both in the CBD and the residential areas fully support that endeavor work closely with the shade tree commission uh to accomplish that we were talking about tree ordinances yesterday once again but the reality is is when you plant more
trees you're going to have more leaves and we all know and saw this fall the significant amount of leaf piles that were throughout the village and certainly more hands working in that space in the fall we're going to be able to clean up the leaves more quickly which is I really believe the desire of
the residents because I receive a lot of these complaints um during the fall about quickly we're able to pick up the leaves and lastly um with regard to the $155,000 increase I can tell you there was no $155,000 increase I'd have to go back and listen to the meeting to see
exactly what Chris was talking about we only have two employees who are budgeted um out of yard waste recycling uh both are on steps so those increases that they receive which don't equate to $115,000 or contractual under the blue collar agreement um so I'd have to go
back and listen to that or speak to him about who he was talking to but based on the spreadsheet I have in front of me that $15,000 number is not accurate that's all there anybody else well good okay let's get to our village manager's report Keith thank you
mayor um first I'm pleased to announce that uh our Pavilion structure for habber nickel park has been delivered uh came in two large truckloads uh I was out there this earlier this week um meeting with the contractor and with
representatives from our Parks Division and our engineering division uh this is probably a 12 to 15 we project contingent upon weather uh but we're looking forward to having that Pavilion structure erected up there in habernickel park and have it ready um
for probably a week or two into the the spring season um for baseball and softball uh we had a meeting earlier this week uh with all of our staff here at Village Hall um and some of our divisions that are offsite
uh with David wild from our Recreation division implementing the final stages of the master Library program um in the next month or two all of the requests for facility uses both internal um for Village use and external um for sports
fields for room requests um any Municipal facility uh that we allow the public or we use internally uh these requests are going to be made through the master Library System uh the police department is going to have read only access so that they can manage who should be in these spaces at what time
and who's reserved them uh but I really want to thank Nancy beos our Recreation director and David wild in her um Recreation division uh for putting this together and uh having as seamless a transition from paper requests to the
Online requests using Master Library uh today I received an update on the North Walnut uh underground storage tank removal project uh over on the parking lot uh we have six underground storage tanks that have been removed as of today
three remain uh we are working with our lsrp to monitor that project and right next door the environmental remediation continues at the Town garage um we're hopeful that in the next 30 days both of those projects will be wrapped up we'll
be able to get access uh back for those who park on the north North Walnut Street Lot who have been temporarily relocated um but I think this is really moving the ball forward along the Franklin Corridor uh that we're addressing these longstanding lingering
environmental issues um and remediating those properties um and we'll continue to do the required D testing that goes along with that as I mentioned at last week's council meeting but I think it's worth repeating um we have now had over
195 questions submitted from the public specifically eight individuals uh who have submitted questions regarding the shedler soil testing process over at the property um those questions have all been posted now on the Village website
uh we have 31 new questions that were submitted on January 27th by another Resident and Matrix in the village are working through those questions to have those posted as soon as possible today I had the opportunity uh to visit Willard School Miss Kelly's first grade class
where we participated and celebrated World read aloud day we read the book The North Star and I want to thank the administration at the Ridgewood public schools and Miss Kelly for the invitation to participate in that today um on February 28th uh we are bringing
back the blood drive that the village used to run years ago it'll be conducted through our health department downstairs in the youth Lounge it'll run from noon to 6:00 p.m. and we're working with the New Jersey blood center uh to be able to
provide that service so we encourage everyone there will be an online sign up and we encourage everyone to sign up for that reminder about snow removal tonight we're expecting a snow ice storm uh just want to remind everybody that sidewalks need to be cleared within 24 hours of
the snow falling uh garbage pickup both tomorrow morning and Friday morning will be curbside so please bring your trash containers to the curb uh so that we can best keep our village employees safe all Village offices and departments will be closed on February 12th and February
17th in observance of Lincoln's birthday and President's Day there'll be no garbage or recycling pickup and the recycling center will be closed on both days please check your village calendar for garbage and recycling pickups for the next two weeks as they will change due to the holidays the department of
Parks and Recreation will be holding a seasonal summer job fair on Wednesday March 12th from 530 to 7:00 p.m. in the community center on the lower level of Village Hall any 16year olds or older are eligible to come and apply for a
variety of positions that we will have open for this summer for further information please call 201 67556 over at the recreation department for more information Village Council upcoming meetings February 10th and note
that February 10th is this Monday um in light of the holiday on Wednesday we will have our public council meeting at 7:30 February 26th back on the Wednesday schedule will be our next work session at 7:30 and we have two upcoming budget meetings on February 19th and February
27th both of the budget meetings begin at 500m and that's all I have tonight mayor thank you Keith and let's go to council reports sioban you want to kick it off sure um so today I had a meeting at the high school with our intern team um to expand the idea that we need to
have more Civic engagement along many lines uh one is that kissing balls need all new bows um that and that's the vibrancy of the holiday season impacts holiday shopping we also talked about mulch Monday and project Pride um from
our dream team of interns three of them are graduating this year and so that leaves us an opportunity to have more leadership and partner with new clubs um possibly with interact and in addition to that they were because we can't because open I can't tell everybody all this they're very interested in having
each of us come in and speak to the club I know as Alum P Pam and I have gone in and I committed all you to uh buying pizza for them and going in at some point um you take venmo or how does that work no no no you're bringing the pizza you're the pizza delivery thank you so
muchan so um for the public for the public who's in listening um a huge part of our mission here is to engage with our public school system and the youth you know kids who live here and have they come up with such novel ideas from MJ agular to Grace and we're
going to be expanding that so each of the council members will be invited at some point and we're looking for students who have Vision but we're also looking for students who have Hands-On time and attention CU planting is tough and physical so thank you to Jeff nias and thank you to all our interns I'll be
talking about my seniors probably a lot this spring I too had the pleasure of attending Ridge Elementary School and doing read aloud which is a lovely um event across the United States it's read aloud day I attended both kindergarten and third grade they were very different
flavors of Civic engagement and had a variety of ideas um shockling the two things that they were the most interested in is traffic and safety they're very you know obviously as young children they're passengers and a lot of cars they talked about traffic lights some of them expressed the corners that
their parents hate the most um and they're very concerned with our parks and how they're used and if they're clean um and lastly they all wanted you to know that they think there should be a roller coaster park in Rood from the kindergarteners and that we The Village should sponsor a video game Xbox night
um I want to thank Ridge Elementary and everybody who made that happen and then lastly um this dovetails to some of the public comment today um I was able to go to the uh zierski shedler house with the Bergen County Peggy Norris group and
newcomers who've both come before here and we want to do a walkthr of the house to see you know how's it looking and is there a possibility because neither of those organizations have any Revenue right they don't really aren't going to be able to pay us ton of rent Charities
and we had a very good discussion with both groups about the duality of both of them going into the house self- indemnifying going in opening it clearly the newcomers has the meeting Gathering social aspect with the dovetail with what they do with the historical session
and um it went very well they're both I want to thank both of them for their time um I also want to report back to the council that you know the vacant house it did have leaves in the foyer and there was um you know because it's been locked and sealed it's in need of serious cleaning there were a
significant amount of flies in the bathroom and it's it wasn't really showable but we showed it anyway and for those on the shedler house who missed it on Monday um we're now occurring operating cost each year and I you know you all have your budgets and you saw the several thousand dollars which is
rightful money to make sure it's there but I pulled the energy bill between Monday and today and the energy even at a low level is $3,100 in 2024 in addition to the staff that we pay to go there so um I was very
enthused um that we have two people who want to use it who can self-insure and we can begin the process of opening it up breathing the life in you know the clamoring that the call to action that got the house moving was the community Gathering you know from the neighborhood
the meeting the greeting and then the historical element if it works that would be interesting to have both of them so um I want to thank uh Carol Bowski for opening it and again both the Charities the other thing is because the Public's listening there's the reality is is we're going to have to furnish the
house and we've spent a sick amount of money like a a serious amount of money on this house $2.6 million um we're going to have to start to look for charitable Don Nations to have period appropriate furniture or everybody starts to start surfing
Facebook and we're going to find some I'm not joking um there is no furniture so we discussed some of the kickoff events the first first events might be bring your own chair um things like that but that is stumbling forward and I just want to Echo the longer the house sits
vacant the the worse it is for the house the more at risk it is for everybody and I think the only two organizations who've come and expressed any desire I think the duality of it du sales very nicely and that's it thanks shobon Frank
so I didn't have any um committees uh since the last meeting but this past Saturday I attended did a seminar for newly elected officials that was sponsored by the um League of municipalities and so it was great um picked up some tips was very informative
of to make sure I'm doing the best as I can sitting up here and I also just wanted to point out to Heather and to Keith that hearing some of the stories and case studies really made me appreciate how well Ridgewood has run and the great job that you're doing so thank you thank you thanks Frank Evan
yeah I'll be brief as none of my committees met since last Wednesday um I nobody else mentioned it but I get did get to spend uh my Friday night with everyone up here uh interviewing some wonderful wonderful residents who were volunteering or applying to volunteer I want to thank everyone who volunteered
it was an embarrassment of riches in terms of the number of graduate degrees and work experience that were so right on task with what committees uh the Committees were looking for um if anything the hard part was really figuring out like everybody was great figuring out who of them would be better
um but I do just want to thank all the volunteers and everyone who did apply and then also got to spend Monday night with these wonderful people up here the budget hearings I know at least some of you dialed in I enjoyed myself uh I don't know if I can say that for everyone else um but in all serious I did want to again thank Keith and the
entire budget staff um regardless whatever differences we may have the presentation was perfect the binders were done well everything was transparent um it was run extremely well it was a good use of all of our time and goes to Frank's uh point about just how one well run things are around here so
thank thank you Keith for for that at work thanks EV Pam um my committees have not met since our last meeting either um that includes planning board we didn't have an application so the full board did not meet but our subcommittee on the master
plan progress did meet and we discussed the element of the master plan that addresses um historic preservation um and the planning board's next meeting will be the 3D Tuesday I guess that's the seven the 18th
of this month um green Ridgewood and green team will meet tomorrow 7:30 in the senior Lounge downstairs weather permitting um there is um a Sports Swap that six
elementary schools are sponsoring if you have sports equipment that you would like to give for reuse uh the drop off is May 8 excuse me March 8th 12 to 9:00 at haod and then you can shop the next day March
9th from 11: to 12 if you need um sports equipment and I bring that up right after green Ridgewood because reuse is so important for maintaining for preserving our environment that's all I have great thanks Pam wait PA before you
go I I forgot we did also have fields and this was disgusted Fields uh so we had fields on Tuesday Morning um so after I spent the whole weekend with everybody all night I got up at 8:00 went to the fields meeting I do want to let people know there were technical difficulties the board of that host the
meeting and for those of you who are unable to get into the meeting we've asked that the Board of Ed put because this has been a little bit of a problem not in a critical way but it's definitely a problem um we've asked the Board of Ed to set up uh if you can't get into the meeting hybrid wise to
contact like an emergency contact number um Fields was pretty like perfunctory it was over in 22 minutes which is a personal um for for fields and it just highlighted the accomplishments that be redundant going over on our side and Keith cook was out so we didn't get the
most robust update from the Board of Ed but apologies to those who couldn't get in um we're very sorry we're relying on the board of ed for the technical side and it was just unfortunate that there was a failure and going forward there'll be like a in case of a technical failure
this is the number to contact and and and for the record I couldn't get in so I had to call Siobhan and she had to send me the the correct link so I spoke to I spoke to Christine corus um at the conclusion of the meeting um via telephone and as Shaban said they're
they're working to make sure that the link is active what I found was that the link that had been added to the agenda was actually January's link so they just have to clear that up but again there will be an SOS email so to speak that if anyone does have difficulty getting on
you know we'll we'll add that to the agenda or the school board will add that to the agenda before they send it to the village for posting um and where they post it on their website um so that we can uh avoid having the same technical difficulties that we had on Tuesday
morning great thanks everybody and with that let's get to work Keith take it away mayor at this time we have a number of items tonight uh for Ridgewood water so I'd invite director calby to come forward and share those requests with the council
hello again everyone hello rich long time no see see it feels like it was two days ago it was it's good company we have eight items tonight on the ridge of water uh the first is Award of a
contract for qualified end user soil removal testing and Disposal this is for spoils that come from rigid water distribution repairs um we sought three quotes from qualified companies that do
testing um and pick up the soil and dispose of it at a qualified facility um the lowest of the three was company called Repco and we're recommending a natic SE contract in our annual budget amount of $100,000 uh for this service and this is
funded under the water utility operating budget what's ID 27 soil so that that is soil that's characterized as nonhazardous but does contain certain levels of contaminants so contaminants are not
always hazardous okay so that's interesting thank you Rich I had one question because I've seen it you know the bid is is the buffer for a change of orderorder because it's not to exceed the contract actually is just a little higher we we just used the tonnage
amounts to qualify the low low of the three so the the total amount in the green column was just to determine the lowest out of the three but our not exceed amount that we budget for every year is $100,000 okay questions anyone
no let's go all right the next one is our annual G GAC or granulated activated carbon media exchange contract this is a soul Source contract with Calon carbon um once again this year we are budgeting
for change outs of both the car facility and the 20 facility this is Municipal reactivated carbon so this is is not virgin carbon out of the ground we are reusing the carbon that is in the vessels we are estimating at least two
change outs each at each facility so it's a not to exceed amount of $278,400 for the year and it's also funded under the water utility um operating budget questions how long how many like
how often do you have to change the so it it it goes based on Flow um these particular plants are the two active ones so we're utilizing them a lot um but generally based on that flow basis it it about twice a year so say 6 months
but you know once all 12 plants are online we'll have more more life out of them thank you we've switched these out before then right every year yes y anybody else good let's go next item is also a
soul Source contract to Emerson Process Management this is the manufacturer and software provider for our scada um operation system and this is for purchase of a remote Telemetry unit or rtu these are the computer systems that
control each of our well and treatment facilities so this is to build one additional rtu um with the to compl the build out of our our system and this is an amount of 31 1,676 and this is funded out of the
water utility capital budget questions good next item is our annual contract to furnish corrosion inhibitor this is the chemical that is added to the water to prevent corrosion of lead
and copper throughout the system we've provide been providing this in the system since 2016 since then have been successful with our lead and copper levels most recently in 2024 our lead sample uh pool was 2.7 parts per billion when the
Action level is 15 um so we know it's working um this is also Source contract because we do not want to change the chemical um we are testing currently other Alternatives with New Jersey Institute of Technology but until that report is done we have to stay with the
same chemical good news here is there's a 4% decrease in the price for the year that we're recommending a annual contract for this year at $285,400 and this is funded out of the
water utility operating budget questions Rich when um the lead lines are all replaced then will we still have to add this chemical D will still require it um and part of the reason being that people still have lead in their homes got it
you there's lead solder and lead pipes in homes that people may not have replaced all right thank you wait Evan's gonna have to say something 4% that's excellent it is it is 10 grand so I appreciate it it is every dollar counts
yep thank you does does this poly Oro phosphate corre the taste of our water good no next item is various security improvements at Water facilities namely
the new posos treatment plants also a couple of existing Wells this is a purchase under a Cooperative um there are six facilities in total um not to exceed amount of $5,850
f43 that consists of the installation of 44 close circuit television cameras and 16 door controls and all the associated Hardware labor to install that at these seven locations and this is funded out of the water capital budget
questions I I I will say that um you always ask for um amounts that are have a lot of zeros after them um in this instance you will be dwarfed by the water pollution control facility requests uh which are also I think
you're handling so just just saying if I would have known I would have tried to put more on tonight I know our our next item is um this was an emergency um this is you know codifying the Declaration that was made on
Saturday January 18th uh we had a water main break a severe water main break in Midland Park on 187 syac Avenue it was along the bank of a stream um it got to the a depth that was unreachable by our
cruise um there was a very large tree on the bank that was in the way and over the the pipe so I had contacted Mr kasmar Mr Rooney we declared emergency subsequently had to bring in down Tree Service removal of the tree and Conquest
construction to do the actual repair on the water main so this is for the purpose of both of those repairs down Stree is $4,850 uh Conquest construction $1 16,5 348 cents and this is funded under the
water utility operating budget I will be recusing myself from the aspect of this that involves down street service but not Conquest um I couldn't quite picture from your memo what the tree was doing did it fall on this main or was it
growing on top of it from what I understand it was growing on top of or near the area that had to be excavated so it would have been hazardous to excavate with the tree in place I see so I I have to ask cuz we have the did you plant a new tree when this one came down
we have not do you I I'm not kidding sorry so I know this was just the middle of January okay and it's also in Midland Park I know so the that so Midland Park has a tree protection ordinance or no because I know Glenn Rock was slow on this I don't know could we find that out and
I'm not kidding because I feel that if Ridgewood money we have we have to start doing this in little bits and pieces if if a Ridgewood resident did it they'd be required to replant and and by the way the tree had to go I get that it was impacting a public safety issue of water think all of shade tree but Ridgewood
water does own property in other municipalities that don't have strict tree Provisions so I'd like to see you know a tree would be like 400 bucks sure I'd love when we ask Downs to remove it if we could ask for replacement equivalent and see that in future bids for Richwood water and I'm hoping
everybody else thinks that's a good idea yeah I think that's a great idea thank you for I'm on board thanks assuming the property owner is interested in having a n tree too so yeah I don't know if it would go in the same place you know CU this was adjacent to a townhouse
development right right I mean reason let reason Prevail I mean you own a lot of property Ridgewood water if it I mean Midland Park should stay in Midland Park obviously but if you need to do Ridgewood water to Ridgewood water and go up to White C with it I would just feel better with the spend and yeah it
it's a precedent that if we're going to do it and it'll it'll start a conversation with these other municipalities as well great anybody else let's go uh last item uh this is also you know codifying an item that's been underway
this involved the emergency that occurred back in September October last year this is for the actual design and permitting assistance for the West Glen booster station that's being constructed uh to help move water from the low Zone into intermediate Zone to address the issues
with low pressure that were involved with the loyal water advisory uh this is to the firm M McDonald the amount not to exceed $45,000 funded out of the water utility operating budget I have good news tonight to report that the uh permit was
submitted to D was deemed technically complete we answered uh comments today from the reviewer and he's Advanced it to a supervisor uh for approval the technical review actually got done before the administrative um review so we're we're hopeful that we're going to
get this this permit next couple weeks that's great and I I just want to thank rich on this um Beyond this request for additional funding to to continue with this project we did receive a draft report from M McDonald on the the
analysis uh that they've been conducting since we had the boiled water emergency um up in the intermediate Zone it was very thorough very complete laid out the plan as to how we're going to move forward um and with the approval of this request next week uh you know we'll be
well on our way to try to address these distribution issues come spring um do we know yet whether it's going to be above ground or below ground it's going to be a combination of both
um there'll be a very a much smaller above ground um call it can or metal pitless adapter somewhere if you're familiar what's at lywood well adjac to Gren poool parking lot we we drill a new
well there and there is about a 12in diameter can that comes out of the ground that's going to be one visual aspect and the remainder will all be underground in a vault and the only other thing you'll see above ground is an electrical cabinet that will have the control electric electric cabinet what
the size of it is I don't know but those will be the two visual Parts we're able to sink most of it into the ground cool and this will be permanent um initially it was going to be a temporary installation but based on
what we were able to do um this could be permanent which is good news I just want to say um thanks for moving this along and obviously the hope is that we will have this in before um uh lawn watering
season and and we'll see how that goes that's our goal yes I understand uh but you've moved this very very quickly to avoid um a uh second act of what happened last summer so thank you very much Chris thank you uh thank
Rich I'm good I think that's all thank you Rich thanks Rich thanks rich thank you mayor we have nothing under parking tonight um I just want to note before we get into the uh listing of the the budget requests um we have done we have started to do a thorough vetting and
review audit if you will um of all of our open Capital from prior year um and Bob Rooney in addition to having his departmental meetings on the 2025 budget both on the operating side and on the
capital side um we are spending a significant amount of time looking back at our old capital accounts to see what the directors and their respective departments have and have not spent um the goal here is if there is a need there obviously there was a need when
the money was appropriated if there remains that need they should move on those purchases if there is not a need I anticipate that this summer once we're through budget and we've completely vetted all of these capital accounts we will be coming to the council uh with
cancellation request uh for money that was appropriated prior but is no longer needed so you'll notice that tonight's agenda um many of these are requests from the various departments to spend some of those older Capital funds so I just want to preface
uh these agenda items with that so the first is Award of contract uh through the New Jersey Wastewater Cooperative pricing system through Pake Valley Water Commission for two digestor mixers at the water pollution control facility this contract is recommended to be awarded to rapid pump and meter service
uh for two new mixers for the digestors not to exceed $462,500 uh this follows the last major plant upgrade uh which we've mentioned prior at the de here uh at the Wastewater pollution control facility back in 2005
and this is uh again coming out of Prior Capital questions okay go um the next again also coming off the Pake Valley sewage commission Cooperative pricing system is the purchase of return activated sludge
pumps uh abbreviated Ras this is another contract that will go to Rapid pump and meter service through the Cooperative uh again two pumps not to exceed $219 $480 questions good okay the next is an award
of contract for a one skid mounted nwp booster system um this will replace a pump that is not working um and the electrical controls um have been faulty and in some cases failed this is again uh through the co-op with rapid pump and
meter service uh the purchase for the new booster system is for $248,990 everybody good let's go okay the next is Award of contract of an 8 in trailer
mounted diesel bypass pump um this to is through the Cooperative uh with rapid pump and meter service this is for the purchase of a new 8 in trailer mounted diesel bypass pump not to exceed $163,200 from 2005 as well but I just was
wondering and and I had a question on the resolution so the total is 163 225 mhm but on the detail I I I'm only seeing 44 and 104 I I'm missing a balance so I don't on the
whereas on page three I mean the on page one it has the uh the quote the 163 225 and then and then there's two Capital line items so 58 783 and then 104 441 got it I didn't
see the 58 wor next every we good okay um the next is an award of purchase of a um dissolved oxygen sensor system uh this monitors the levels in the four aeration tanks down at the water
pollution control facility um this contract is being recommended to be awarded to Miller energy Inc uh for the purchase of that new sensor system not to exceed 17 82257 everybody good okay good next item is the per purchase of a
2024 um F550 chassis and dump body um this is for the streets division uh it'll replace a vehicle uh from 2011 that is being taken out of service uh the contract is being recommended to be awarded to Route 23 Auto Mall under the
New Jersey um State contract program not to exceed $ 8439 6,000 uh $396 questions no good all right next item is also for streets uh
this is a similar request uh for the second purchase of a 2024 F550 chassis and dump uh the only thing different here is this one slightly less 82,0 616 and these are both out of old capital yes and keep does this help with
budgeting are we going to be able to make not something this year you know the I look at the capital budget as a little bit of a jigsaw puzzle competing interest see where the pieces fit what we're trying to do here is we're trying to utilize the old capital requests
before new ones are made so for example I think we're down to um under $300,000 on the requests for the sanitary trucks that we talked about at the budget meeting because we've pulled together some old capital to pay the balance so what we're utilizing here will have an
impact and lessen the burden on what we need in 2025 that's good year I mean having math problems again so again the the attachment gets you to 82 but in the actual resolution it's just 175 I I
don't right 175 is the statutory limit that's okay no I was just going to make the point that I'm all for spending old capital if it's there but don't spend just suspend it no no no the these are all and your credit I mean you're you're you're explaining what you're replacing they're old the trucks but I don't want
to have a situation where folks think to use it or lose it I'd love to just not spend the money if we don't need it well and I think that that was the point that he made earlier that after the budget process they're going to they're going to go through this old capital that's still there and begin to cancel um any
old capital which by the way late last year we did with the water with Ridgewood water we had a cancellation resolution for old appropriated Capital that they were not going to use and we canceled that out and now we plan to do the same thing with the general capital
budget okay uh ladies 175 is the is the LI is the U the statutory limit but the the 82 616 matches right okay next okay um next item is number eight uh this is the
purchase of snow plows uh to fit the two prior requests um again for the street division um we're going to acquire two new snow plows um from old capital accounts and this is not to exceed 15,000 94260 and and we need this because they
fits these trucks and the old ones don't the these plows will outfit those trucks that you just that you just authorized whereas our old plows won't fit on these I gather I'd have to ask Chris that question I mean I can tell you that some of the plows that we have are old and
Antiquated um and when you have a new vehicle it's not necessarily best practice to affix an older plow I I would assume that i' just be curious to double check I I mean I will tell you to to Mike J and his crew down there Anthony arm mechanic you know they they
get the useful life out of all of their equipment sometimes it's done with duct tape and bubble gum but they're definitely making sure that it it lives out its full life down at the down at the garage thanks okay um next up is the
transfer resolution uh requested by Bob Rooney it's $114,000 in the current fund and 390,000 out of Ridgewood water good and finally uh we have a shared services agreement that's being proposed
with the buau of Hocus uh this is for our signal division to provide maintenance and repair services miscellaneous traffic signage and assistance with the installation of holiday decorations to hokus um I know that the um the initial attachment of the fee schedule
was not included in your original packet but Heather subsequently sent that out to the council um and she also provided a paper copy at the day tonight I just want to mention uh Chris also mentioned that um they're also going to include the fiber Network did they do that work in Hocus that's not in the agreement
he's updating the agreement before we vote on it what do you mean by fiber Network so signal signal maintains the fiber network not only in the village but we also do work for Midland Park hocus and Glenrock so Chris's recommendation is
that we include that language too in this document so that um it covers Us for the work that rich and his crew are doing when they work in Hocus on our fiber Network do we have a I'm sorry do we have a projection on what we might stand to I don't you know I I I I asked
that question um it's a matter of doing some accounting to to see what amount of hours we put in in 2024 we can certainly do those calculations I just don't have them tonight and and this is certainly as you know there something very important to me and this Council and our taxpayers this is this is the way
forward that you know when we can when we can work with um our partners our neighbors um Bard ofed um we save everybody money so yeah let's do more of these I like these yeah I was going to make my joke is there a conflict now with the Christmas decoration
competition as long as ours are better it's okay ours are better ours are going to be better and they the lamp are in here so we can it's great all good I was kind of curious about how the actual hours of Labor expended or C calculated
is that an average that's used for the calculation or is it the particular employees level um our um broken down into hours I just want I'm just kind of curious I believe it's broken down by the staff that's
utilized depending on what type of uh function we're performing and then the vehicle and equipment charges are are listed uh with actual hourly rates that I understood and then this is six months if it goes well we'll do another yeah I
mean to some be the year I I mentioned that to Chris as well that I think he took a former contract that we had with hokus a few years ago and I think it was a six-month um situation but this is supposed to be the entire year this year oh so that might change it will change
when when it gets for us yeah okay any other questions on that no no no okay um the next item on the agenda is a proposed change to chapter uh 249 streets and sidewalks and this is after
a thorough analysis by engineering and the staff there um The Village has had a program in the past where sidewalk contractors have been able to acquire an annual permit eliminating the need to obtain a permit for each of the locations uh where where they do work uh
this was implemented I think back in 2015 um Chris through discussions with his staff is recommending that the village resend the annual sidewalk permit um and replace it with the attached ordinances to the memo you have it in front of you um resending this
annual sidewalk permit will give the village better control of the sidewalk repair which he thinks is necessary um and it will also allow for them to coordinate tree inspections because a lot of this sidewalk work correlates with having trees removed um so um they
are recommending that they actually did an analysis of the financials relative to this annual permit um and they believe that from January of 2019 through January of 2025 The Villages lost approximately $21,000 in Revenue um whereas they would have better control
if they were offering individual permits rather than an annual permit questions I mean so it said that there's um nine annual permits is it is it like how many does those nine companies represent the majority of
work that does sidewalks or is it just they're the ones that were the ones that picked up the annual I I can't tell you every contractor that pulls out a permit I can certainly ask them to provide that number to us um I think we have nine people who do enough volume of work within the village that it behooved them
from 2015 now to get that annual permit the problem is is that there's also a lack of accountability because they go out even they have the annual permit they're not reporting back that they're doing that particular sidewalk and then we have a tree issue a root grinding issue
a variety of things that could arise in that circumstance but I can I can find out how many permits were pulled in total but nine of them were annuals because my only my only question not really concern is just what impact will this have on our residents will it make
it slow down um how fast the sidewalks are done like I understand from our perspective why we want it but have we just looked at it from the resident's view I think it'll also maybe increase the price because it might also increase the price
that's my concern because the the contractor now has to go down to the V to the building department for every single job I spoke to two of these guys this week for my property and um they're backed up to start with
uh and and you know I I just it's I'm concerned that it's going to be passed along to the customer yeah I have the same concern I actually did this when I first moved to Ridgewood like 12 years ago uh one of my moving gifts was finding out I had to redo the sidewalks in front of my house because the uh tree
had had had pushed up the sidewalks and I recall the village was very helpful they gave me the list of the folks who had the annual permits they said we can't tell you which one to use but these are the ones that have the annual permits and I used one it was not cheap but it got fixed but that's my concern is that if this is going to cost these
companies more per job they're just going to pass it on to our residents and I hear you Keith on wanting greater accountability but if this will cost our residents more money is there a way to keep the status quo but somehow Infuse more accountability for the you know I mean I don't know that there's a way to for the village to be able to determine
whether or not it will or won't cost more and this is the first I'm hearing about any concerns from the council I have't in the lead up to this meeting no one shared that with me I mean we can certainly have Chris we can hold this to a a subsequent work session and have Chris come in and give his Insight he
deals with this every day um I think the real concern that I had was when engineering you know did the calculations and there was a significant loss in revenue and I do hear from you know I'm the one that gets the phone calls when either residents folks who are involved with shade
tree council members call me and say you know why is this tree being taken down and it has to do with a sidewalk issue you know this would give us greater control of that so we can certainly have Chris come in if you want to hold off but I I yield to to your direction I think Chris should come in yeah I I
think Chris should come in and I mean my question is is there a way to have an annual permit but require the contractor to notify or even get approval from us before actually starting the work that way it doesn't cost any more money um that would I can give the greater accountability as well to us um and give
us some more oversight um and I'm also wondering if there's a way for them to do it electronically and that hasn't physically come here every time they want to do a job CU I hear what you're saying Keith and and your and I agree with your your goals I'm just worried I think to what Frank and what Pam are thinking is the downstream impact for our citizens we we I'm sorry mayor sorry
and and and and I I think it's important to have uh Chris here um but I'm I'm reading his memo um and if I'm reading between the lines correctly I think that there is a requirement that they inform
the building department because not because because yeah because it says when they remember they notify us and I think that that's that's the whole issue here that's a loss of control that he's concerned about well and and the other loss of control on the other side of
this is that when it impacts a tree you typically have a neighborhood because it's a shade tree right and there is a um a very because they'll come in that day they'll lift it up and they'll be like oh this tree's got to go and there will be um a lot of noise through it
through my life through Keith's through engineering debating measuring and you know now the homeowner has to be there because sometimes those trees are half on half on the bump outs it I would say probably 90% of the tree engagement with
the sidewalks ends up in a very negative space one way or and negative not like all around it's like the people who want to save the tree sometimes are very negative about it the homeowner gets very negative about the cost of this and it I would say each year since on the council there's like 12 of these where
it gets a little out of hand and and just a thought Keith if perhaps you could flesh this out with Chris ahead of time there may be a middle ground here where we keep this um this ordinance and
the and the annual permit but a fine is imposed if they fail to notify us I I I think we'll have him uh we'll send an invitation to him to be here at the February 26th meeting he and I will talk before that but we can uh we can talk more at that meeting
yeah I I'm just thinking that that that would perhaps be the Best of Both Worlds it is more efficient it is a it is a better way to go it keeps things moving I mean the building department does get backed up as it is right um but there there are some teeth in the failure to
notify that may not exist now that would if it is significant enough it would prompt the contractors to Ure sure that they remember so just a thought just great and then finally on the agenda is just authorization to sign the Burgen
County trust fund uh project contract this is for the Veterans Field lighting the 103,000 that we're receiving from the county uh to help fund that endeavor I always love when you ask permission for for us to to accept a $100,000 I think just taken a Victory lap and this
is way do no I I I need your your blessing we know we know you do it just trust me if I would have signed it if I could have signed it by myself I would have signed it I know you would have and so with that that's all I have mayor let's go back to public comment Ellie Gruber Ridgewood I just
want to say about the sidewalks if you recall an Walsh and neighbors didn't an experiment on South Irving with a sidewalk that was more flexible so then the tree wasn't removed and those sidewalks are beautiful I walk them have
you considered that solution because then you don't have to take a tree down remember they they they discovered a new kind of sidewalk uh the second thing I wanted to say and Siobhan I I can't debate you because I get three minutes and you get as much time as you want but
I'm going to say as far as the berm is concerned it was an idea that was a good idea that was done poorly the trees especially it was almost two years and I heard from Matt Rogers when I asked why the heck aren't those trees replaced
because I think the tree company that was supposed to guarantee them never did and if I understand what happened there was a lawsuit back and forth so that led to a lot of Confusion And I think in a way I'm going to say this because Chris is probably going to hate me because I
always thought he did a good job I think he did a lousy job on this with the soil it was supposed to have all been tested we were told it was all tested but a yes we when the burm went up Siobhan you weren't on the council when the burm went up we asked the question it was all
tested that's what we got the soil was all we didn't know that it came from other places that was on him and as far as taking time and money that is not the fault of the neighbors so I just wanted to say that thank you thank you Ellie
good evening Cynthia o'keef Ridgewood resident so I had a couple of questions um and I know Keith you mentioned earlier that the questions and answers are on the Village website related to
the contamination so I haven't digested all of it you know I plan to to do that but I did have a question um because tonight it was Ridgewood water asking to award contract qualified enduser soil
removal testing and disposal of Ridgewood water soil spoils which I guess are piles of contaminated um dirt or other materials um but according to the Matrix report the
Ridgewood water company um did Place foil piles at shedler and these were placed in the northwest Western portion of the site near block 4704 Lot 12 So based on that impacted material
and the lack of I guess explanation regarding the suitability of the fill for the site the njd was not sa satisfied with the information for this fill Source um so therefore obviously that was you know
where the njt got involved and wanted to evaluate the soil or make Ridgewood evaluate the soil so I guess my question would be were their contracts awarded because if you're asking now for a qualified end user why would shedler be
an end user of contaminated spoil piles that's but not too you know difficult to figure out um and then also there was snow removal that also had rock salt and other chemicals in it dumped at the shedler property so to me those two
things seem I mean I don't know if gross negligence is really the word to use maybe it's not maybe that's not an oops I can see where you know certain standards weren't applied to the six sites that were actually um you know
bringing in that soil because you're looking at something and I guess mistakes can be made um it's unfortunate but with spil pile that I don't understand sorry I have a cough drop in my mouth by the way so I have a sore throat um and then the other thing I
wanted to bring up which was a concern is that um in the wetlands application for shedler um it said that no hazards were on the site um so this was Suburban engineering's
Wetlands application they noted that there were no hazards at shedler yet lead Mercury benzo pyrene and benzo anthene were considered hazards um and those were were you know um mentioned by
matrix to have been 100% in existence um so can you clarify what Suburban engineering meant by no hazards on the site thank you thank you Cynthia anyone else seeing no one and no one is online
I will close public comment would anyone like to address any of the commenters tonight mayor just a few issues um first Ellie we're still working with that flexible sidewalk material um I know that um the hope is is that this winter
we can really get a full understanding of how it handles snow de icing materials all that type of thing I know the deputy mayor has been uh an advocate uh for continued use of this but cautiously because we want to see what a trying winter what effect it has on that
type of material so we've had a little more snow this year than we did last year and we're going to do an evaluation in the spring of where those flexible sidewalks do exist so we are we were are working in that space um with regard to the burm um again I I wasn't here during
that period that's obvious I can tell you um that there was testing conducted for all of those soils um what I can tell you is that um I don't think all of the standards that are applicable under D rule were necessarily applied um I and
this is a great segue into my response to Cynthia um we've implemented some new policies here um especially when we're talking about soil um we are including an lsrp in almost every situation um when soil needs to be tested there is no
one on staff who is a soil expert myself included um and that's why we pay an lsrp a license site remediation professional to evaluate these testing results and make a determination as to what the proper disposal process would
be there are always going to be spoil piles from Bridgewood water we have water main brakes they have an obligation to excavate and they have an obligation to put um a certain standard of fill back in that hole once their
water main break is is is repaired um those soils that were taken out of the ground then need to be tested and properly disposed of so that's the contracts that those are the contracts that rich is entering into uh with these facilities uh in order to make sure that
everything is properly tested and everything depending on those test results is properly disposed of so I think that's an important point to make um with regard to the wetlands Loi I I can't speak to that specific for that's why we contracted Suburban uh to conduct
that study but what I can tell you is that everything that Matrix submitted to the Village um which I think the last report was last August and they will be back soon um that information was all shared with Suburban so they were filling out that application with full
dis closure of everything we knew as of last August I am wondering what the date on the LOI was because the LOI was initiated prior to our awareness of because I was on the phone with the Suburban so Suburban was contracted to do the LOI because it's a requirement
for shipo and we did that before we were even aware of the soil do you know the date Cynthia okay so I think you might have a timing issue I I'd love to check it and I don't want to be overly defensive with it but Suburban was gauged so Loi
um was pass due from the prior Administration in order to move forward with shipa we needed to do an Loi which is the document that ensures that it's not floodlands so when we came in Wetlands Wetland sorry Wetlands sorry um there were several P do things for the application the LOI was one we engaged
Suburban early in my term and the contamination came out later so i' I'd love to see the two dates on that if you could circulate that tomorrow um I I also want to respond um so earlier this week it's story um because sometimes
public comment for me I take very personally uh Ellie you can always call me three minutes I have 30 minutes for you a cup of coffee you can always call me I know you have my number I know because for years I was an advocate how frustrating and limiting public comment
can be and I am here for you with that and I think Pam knows that and all of us in our Advocate advocacy gets it and I never want it to be like the Das gets the last word so you can always call me and earlier this week I did have coffee yesterday with somebody who's totally oppositional to my views on Turf and I
want to tell this whole Council and the community it's delightful it was great we found commonality and things that we love about town so never feel that that's the only way to contact us I also want to say that it's a shame when I have to make defensive clarification
phrases but I really feel the need to nobody on this Council had anything to do with the design of the burm or the execution of the BM nobody um in fact for those on the advocacy side I was with you clamoring for more public light on a project that had stalled a project
that the prior Council not only Built the BM with contaminated soil but submitted one and then two plans in complete and total secrecy to the state Authority nobody knew about the pickle ball plan and the prior Council in their
accountability outside of parks the fields everybody submitted it I don't no one's blaming the neighbors for anything we are Co collaborative with the Neighbors when I think about what to put in the house we want to be mindful of the neighbors we love hearing from the neighbors the testing we're spending it
we don't want everybody to think that and lastly with respect to the burm when I took my seat and we found out that certain elements of the burm were failing to thrive I went to legal and with engineering we stopped the payment on that and we recovered taxpayer money
for the the trees there are 55 of them that failed to thrive and this Council came to an agreement with that vendor and that's good work that's good work it's a very difficult position to say oh it wasn't us but it's also confusing because when the public watches this and people watch this I do get questions
like hey did were you involved in that and we weren't so I don't want to create like blaming distance but I want to C create clarification distance nobody on this council at that point that the BM was was here was part of the decision-making and everybody on this
Council and they all have voices but is committed to remediating a problem that the whole Community agrees is not a good situation for the Neighbors the community or the park um and again if you need more of my time because I just doubled yours call me I'm I'm available
for that and mayor just one other issue to miss o'keef um if you read through the questions especially the last set of answers that were provided in the last few weeks um there are specific questions that are on point about these spoil piles um there
is some misinformation that I think's been been discussed out in the community um about two different soil piles and th there are specific answers to those questions embedded in the spreadsheet that is now posted online for public
consumption so if you want to get clarification on the soil piles and what went where it's embedded in those answers and thank you Keith because I'm a little unclear on what soil spoils means um in the memo that we have for
this contract um the it's for disposal of both clean fill and ID 27 soil material so I think I I don't want people to get the impression that every time Ridgewood water digs up some dirt
it's contaminated so soil spoils as I read this memo can have both clean soil and um the ID 27 soil that has contaminants um so I can't look it up on my phone
right now because we don't use our phones on the de uh otherwise I'd just check miam Webster good anybody else and with that we will entertain a motion for adjournment so
moved second all in favor I let's go um I want to apologize spe e