Look out. Okay. What do we Okay. Please rise for the flag salute in pledge of allegiance. our nation indivisible liberty and justice for all.
Okay. Pursuant to the requirements of the open public meetings act, advanced notice has been given to the star ledger, the record, and the clerk of the village of Rididgewood. In addition, notices were posted in the office of the board secretary and in all school buildings.
At the uh November 5th, 2025 election, Miss Broen was the sole candidate and received 7,136 votes. She will serve one three-year term. That's the fourth rear swag again. >> Uh, Mr. Matthews, can we just use that
microphone there, please? Please raise your right hand. >> I, Sheila Broen, >> I Sheila Broen, >> do solemnly swear >> solemnly >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution >> and the Constitution of the State of New
Jersey. Constitution >> and that I will bear true faith >> that I will bear >> and allegiance >> and allegiance >> to the same >> the same >> and to the governments established >> the government established >> in the United States >> the United States >> and this state
>> this state >> under >> the authority of the people >> under the authority of the people >> I do further >> I do further >> solemnly swear >> solemnly swear >> that I possess >> that I possess >> the qualifications >> the qualifications prescribed by law
>> prescribed by law >> for the office >> for the office >> of member of a board of education >> member of board of education >> and that >> and that >> I am not disqualified >> I am not disqualified >> as a voter >> pursuant to >> RS
>> RS >> 19 >> 19 >> colon dash >> nor disqualified due >> nor disqualified >> do >> to conviction of a crime due to a conviction of crime >> or offense listed
>> or offense listed >> and NJSA >> NJSA >> 18A >> 18A >> 12 >> 12 >> one >> and that I will >> that I will >> faithfully >> faithfully >> and partially >> partially >> and justly >> justly
>> perform all duties >> perform all duties >> for that office >> that office >> according to the best of my ability >> according to the best of my ability >> so help me God >> so help me God >> congratulations So the next order of business will be taking nominations for board president.
Um I would like to nominate Mohammad Mahoud. Um and I'll just give some background on that. So uh this is I think third or fourth term when I've seen Muhammad serving on the board. So it's a long time that he has served with
uh pretty good record on the board and um he's been vice president for last two years. He's been on the finance committee. He has experience in leading um large uh budgets and uh I think uh
with all the health insurance costs rising, we may need somebody who has more finance background and uh has not been afraid of taking difficult decisions in the past. And uh I've seen Mohammed working for last several years
on the board and I was one of the opponents when I was running against Mohammad or I was supporting candidates. So they were running against Mohammed. So I've seen um uh like I've I've drilled or grilled everything that can I
can I could find at that I could find at time and presented those points that why he should not be elected and now I'm saying opposite to that. Right. So I've seen him uh working at different meetings taking decisions and evaluating those decisions. So I think it's now
time that he has been on the board for multiple years been vice president for several years now. So it's time that uh we promote Mohammed to work as president. >> Uh thank you server. Appreciate the kind words. Um I will have to decline. I I don't feel comfortable taking that. Um
but I've also enjoyed working with you. I mean, it's been I think we've had a great working relationship. You brought so much to the board yourself as well. Uh I've been very impressed with Sheila's leadership as well. So, um I think I would have to support Sheila for that role, but I appreciate words. Thank you.
>> Okay. I think we still have to take a vote if uh if there's a nomination. >> Is there a nomination? >> But I I don't I have to >> You declined. Now you have to nominate. >> No, there's no second. Sorry. >> You declined. Now you have to make another nomination. I have to make a nomination >> or someone make a nomination for for a
president. >> Sure. Yeah. I would like to nominate actually Sheila for board president. I've been working side by side with her for the last few years and have seen her in action. I think she does a great job handling the meetings. Um and I think look, I think we all have a great team here. I mean, I think we're all working
very well together. So, uh yeah, that's that would be my nomination, but I appreciate the the vote of confidence. Thank you, sir. >> So, this does require a second. >> A second. A second by Miss. >> Are there any more nominations for board president?
>> Hearing none. Roll call. Uh, Miss Broen. >> Yes. >> Mr. Donnie. >> No. >> Miss Handy? >> Yes. >> Mr. McMoot? >> Yes. >> Miss McCalli?
>> Yes. Congratulations, Madame President. >> Thank you. >> Wait, are we switching and then I'll do the vice president? >> Yes. >> Just want to gather that seat. That's a hot seat.
>> Yeah, it's a hot seat. Awfully stated. Thank you, Muhammad, and the rest of the board. Um, I look forward to working with you all. will um take nominations
for the vice president and um I would like to nominate um uh Muhammad Mu for uh vice president. There a second. I I didn't realize we had to have a second.
Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. So now we are in uh the reorganization um and um move to administration
adoption of the New Jersey School Boards Association code of ethics. Usually we read this um and go around the room and then um I believe we need to sign it. And is there a
Okay, great. So, um Marylu, would you like to start with number one on the um it's page two on the agenda? >> It's the same as >> Yes, it's also on the That's Yes, you
also have it there. Code of ethics. >> Okay. >> Same thing. So either way, >> you read the heading as well as a >> that'd be great. >> Okay. Um, resolve that the Richard Board of Education adopts and agrees to abide
by the New Jersey School Board Association Board Member Code of Ethics as set forth in NJSA 18A 12-24.1 A I will uphold and enforce all laws,
rules, and regulations of the state Board of Education and court orders pertaining to schools. Desired changes shall be brought about only through legal and ethical procedures.
I will make decisions in terms of the educational welfare of children and will seek to develop and maintain public schools that meet the individual needs of all children regard regardless of their ability, race, creed, sex or social standing. I will confirm my board confine my board
action to policym planning and appraisal and I will help to frame policies and plan only after the board has consulted those who will be affected by them. I'll carry out my responsibility not to administer these schools but together
with my fellow board members to see that they are well run. I will recognize that authority rests with the board of education and will make no personal promises nor take any private action that may compromise the board. I will refuse to surrender my
independent judgment to special interest or partisan political groups or to use the schools for personal gain or for the gain of friends. Sorry. >> Yes. I will hold confidential all matters pertaining to the schools which
if disclosed would needlessly injure individuals or the schools. In all other matters, I will provide accurate information and in concert with my fellow board members, interpret to the staff the aspirations of the community for its school. I will v vote to appoint
the best qualified personnel available after consideration of the recommendation of the chief administrator office. >> Um I will support and protect school personnel in proper performance of their duties. >> I will refer all complaints to the chief
administrative officer. and will act on the complaints at public meetings only after failure of an administrative solution. >> Fur I guess should I continue >> please? >> Be it further resolved that each board member shall sign a document that he she
received a copy of a code of ethics and has read and understood it. >> So we can all sign just at the bottom here. There's no really signature place. Okay. >> Rift data.
>> Yeah. >> Thank you. Okay, next is the approval of the open public meetings act and board meeting dates. Um, and wanted to spend a little time on board meeting dates to see if uh there are any conflicts. I I did have a
couple um questions of just um did anybody have a conflict first of all with any of the dates that are >> Yeah, I do have one conflict in September. >> Okay. Which one? Uh the 14th or the 20? the
14th >> traveling to San Francisco. >> Can you remote in do you think? >> No, I'll either be on a plane or be >> but if it's not movable, it's fine. >> Okay.
>> We we we did we did we did mark that as a special meeting in that we don't plan regular business. It wasn't that the administration uh felt felt was necessary but it was requested. So the fact the school's opening so we don't I don't think it's not necessary. I mean I
don't think it's not appropriate to have one there but it's not it's not necessary. So our business will be will be somewhat >> okay. So I think >> is everybody else available on the on that on that date on September 14th as far as you know I mean
>> yeah so um I don't have any conflicts or I don't know of the conflicts right now but in general I think I've raised that in the past prior years also and um the there was a time a couple of a few years ago like even just three four years ago
we used to have two meetings per month now we have totally moved to one meeting a month so before that we moved like some months we still had two and these basically become very long uh meetings and after they are first filled with presentations most of them and after
presentation for the actual board business nobody's watching at that time people are tired we are tired and and they go long so um the and the biggest issue I have is with the March and February timeline which I had brought up
in two prior years that if we are just doing a special public meeting for budget presentation and before that there's no uh budget adoption actually the so it doesn't we say that it's a preliminary budget adoption and the
final will be later on but it doesn't really change much once you adopt it uh after your preliminary it's just for the namesake is preliminary but uh unless the county administrator says something or or there's a factual error in that
right people's opinions don't change after that the board members. So before that we when we had the April vote we used to have a presentation in PF we we used to have a presentation at GW. We used to have presentations at all the HSAs. Now
there's no presentation there's no public awareness and we are just doing budget adoption with with one meeting. So there's nothing before that. I don't think your budget will be ready by February 23rd unless we are saying that budget will be ready on 23rd and we'll so
budget will be presented to the board on six on March 16th and board will adopt on March 16th which I I personally don't agree with this whole plan like the way these board meetings are being happening now it's very superficial because most
of the time go if it's once a month it's too long that's So are you are you saying to add to go back to four meetings per month for the year or are you saying to fix the budget uh timeline
both so on the budget timeline I'm saying that we need we cannot be adopting the budget in the meeting when it's presented right so if there's a timeline for if March 16th is when we present the budget first time then we
adopt on 23rd If 23rd will be too late to adopt, then we should be presenting the budget on February 23rd. Then there's no need to change anything. And if we just if everybody wants to keep one meeting in a month, then maybe move the presentations
to the end after the board business. Especially those long presentations which are FYI, an hour or so, 30 minutes, 40 minutes FYI presentations, move them after the board business. So do the board business first when people are present here when people are awake when people can
participate and then do the presentations >> by board some of the presentations are yeah >> no just by when you say by board business do you mean the other items? Yeah, all the all the agenda items any any agenda items discussions on those
voting on those uh public comments at least one round of public comments because we have people waiting here. So if it's long meeting then at least most of the business should be board business should be done before >> otherwise you're spending a lot of the time presentation. >> Yes,
>> most of the presentations aren't aren't that long though. I mean, we we we've had a few u special education certainly was and our our testing data, but some of the others seem to be within a >> last year we had the vision 2030. >> Yeah.
>> And that was several >> presentations that took a lot of time in the spring. >> So, but we don't have that this year. >> Or will we be having some presentations at some point to see how we were doing? >> Yeah. >> With that. See, I think that's I think
that's of interest to the public. >> You have an option in time box presentation. So, >> sure. >> I mean, so so if I if I can provide some context, >> so first of all, I mean, these are the board's meetings, right? So, so I lead the administrative team in helping
prepare the agenda, helping make recommendations to all, but these really are your meetings and you are the elected officials. So if you want to So I'm I I don't feel it feel it's necessary to recommend meetings that I don't think are necessary. Um so I've tried to I try to I'm trying to
concentrate the majority of our business into one meeting a went to one meeting a month. But that's also for your benefit because I want that to I want to make sure that we take all matters of substantive business through some committee before it comes to a board meeting. So we can't really do that. We
can't do full two committees a month. But that doesn't mean you can't have two board meetings. So if you want to have a >> if I can add on that that one. Right. So that was the original idea and I thought that yes. So but what I have seen especially in the last year when we
moved to these one meetings in a month almost every meeting or or multiple meetings we had walk-in resolutions and pretty substant substantive walk-in resolutions like large contracts came in at the last minute when we had a
executive session just before the meeting we were briefed about it and we voted on that. So if one meeting a month gives enough time for giving the board enough updates in in advance maybe if we don't need a
public meeting if those contract updates or uh FYI need to be an executive session needs to be in between two meetings maybe if those need to happen. >> Are you referring to the to the uh the health benefits change? >> In the last two meetings there were two contracts right? One was health benefit
and then there was uh another one. >> What was >> dental health? >> Dental and health and >> I mean those were those were emergent priorities. >> Broker >> the broker the broker was also walking. the broker was also >> but those those were emergent priorities us trying to stay ahead of the I
majority of the business that we bring I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say that um like in having an additional meeting depending on the timing of those might not have helped and having two meetings doesn't mean we're not going to have some emergent walk-ons we try to keep those to an absolute minimum the point I'm making is
from an administrative standpoint from an operating the district the whole point is as I as I bring recommendations to you we need I need to make sure in good conscience that we're having appropriate administrative processing and an introduction through committee as well. So I'm saying regardless of how
many meetings we have a month, there's going to be one specific meeting that's going to be where I bring you the majority of your business and that and when there's another meeting a month, it it actually helps in some ways with our administrative operations because it's another meeting to appoint individuals. The challenge of the of that second
meeting a month is ju is frankly just the administrative overhead of of setting up a meeting which but they're your meetings. If you want more, we'll provide them for you. But but but for the matter of quality assurance, I'm always going to be focusing focusing the district's attention on one of those meetings as a month where we do
the primary business. >> Right? So my um again, I'm not trying to say that we need to have two meetings at a month. That's not the goal. Right? The goal is there are things which need which may need more some deliberation and some
things that may need deliberation in public before they become critical or uh priority that that must be voted on. >> Well, now we're shifting gears to the budget conversation, right? >> Not just budget. >> Yeah. >> Not just budget. For example, even health insurance if we may there if that
was brought in before or there may be more coming in this year. there may be more topics that may be coming in this year where do we need to just vote on them by say March 16th or when will we have time prior to that to actually discuss them so that >> so
>> so if I take um u an example of village council meetings because those are the two public meetings that I watch that's entertainment for right so they have three meetings at least I I think in a month they have a open working session
where They discuss stuff that are uh some issues that are priority and not everything is uh a good public opinion. There are controversies but they discuss those things in public uh on work session and then they vote. So they
after they get to know about a topic they have a week to think about it before they vote. they don't they are not presented an issue where they discuss it and immed on the same day they have to vote on that. So
there is in with us if we have if the things that are coming in at a public meeting if there's no deadline that it must be voted today then there are times when we said okay can we move it to the next month and we tabled it and we voted next month right
so that gave us time to think about it and come back at the next So I'm finding that opportunity less and less in last for some of the big big decisions in last few meetings. So if we can somehow
uh present if there are big decisions coming in if there are those are presented two three weeks in advance to rest of the board members somehow instead of just that Thursday basically there's no time to review and discuss. That's my point. That's the underlying
um problem. And then then the budget is an obvious one that if there are any big decisions at this budget meeting, when will they be discussed? >> So So if I if I So So what I'm So I think I think I'm hearing from you, Mr. Donnie, is you're saying that you would like to have you'd like to see a
structure where we have more of like a like a discussion session and then a voting session, like a work session and then a voting session. >> But I almost feel I feel like what you're saying are two things. and tell me I think there's two topics. I think budget is there a way we can have leeway
where it's presented and not adopted right away. There's time to think about it or time to get it out to the public. That's I think one suggestion. The second one is I think if we could move a lot of the presentations to the tail end of the meeting and it opens up space in the meeting for real discussion items,
new topics, stuff to be put on the agenda. Because you're right a lot of times in these meetings like mission goes so long everyone's so tired by the end that there's no room for deal open. >> Yes. So I'm I'm bringing in multiple. So I'm saying that are meeting going long because of that. But that's not a
primary concern. Primary concern is if there are important topics that we need to vote on. >> We should have time to deliberate think about it and vote instead of looking at that. I wonder if we start by flipping the presentations to later
>> and we can see how the budget is done and whatever we do for the budget the same approach can be taken for other larger issues that may come up this year. The only thing just on the on the presentation on the order of the
presentations there have definitely been times when the presentations in part because of our engagement with the presenter which I think is useful for us and for the public but go long um and then by the end of it we're also shocked that um we
you know so I agree with you um and we're we're definitely hemmed in a little bit by you know making sure that we get it all done in that one thing. Having said that, the concern I have um and I don't have a solution, but the concern I have is that if we put the
presentations off, if it's 45 minutes, an hour, and we can reliably tell people that we're starting at 8 and they'll be out of here by 9, um I feel a little bit better about it. But when we have students involved or our other professionals who still have to by the
way like the other professionals sitting at this table who still have to be you know up and bright and early dealing with students at 8 a.m. in the morning I feel like um it becomes difficult for them and I certainly don't want to do that to the students. So um
I I almost want to see almost like a a casebyase basis type thing. Um the public can hear the the great thing about uh the presentations whenever we have them or the discussion the board discussion is that the public can I know
many people don't stay up till 11 o'clock and watch us but instead you know listen to the board meetings after the fact. So uh nothing is lost by the timing for the public um except the opportunity to comment in real time. Um,
so I just think that as we're making those decisions and and I'm not opposed to trying it, but I think we just need to keep in in mind the fact that we often have professionals here and students who um I think we owe it to
them to get home at a reasonable hour um if we can. Um so I you know I I share that concern and I also think the presentations are very informative for the public. So again, whether you shift it to the end of the meeting and the meeting's going to last
just as long, have we lost the public in in these presentations which are informative, I think, to the public. Uh particularly when we're looking at um our our how we did on our state testing
or we're looking at special education or whatever. So I um I I'm not quite sure uh putting it at the end of the meeting really helps with that discussion. That
said, on the February 23rd meeting, um I and I and I have concerns about how the budget is and this will be your second year doing the budget, um Mr. Matthews and um
you know I want to make sure that there is time either it's within the committees those committee meetings in February are devoted to the budget or we do what we used to do which are separate
budget meetings two board members two board members and one board member um so that everybody and you might do it finance if you But, you know, for facilities, for uh policy, for any of
the other committees um that wouldn't do maybe a deep dive in the budget, they need to have that what you know the board members need to have that deep dive into the budget. But when are the residents getting to opine on the budget and when are the the committees
>> coming out of the committee meeting and discussing that with rest of the board members that hey this is what we talked about in committee meeting. >> Yeah. >> But we may have differences or we may not agree on if both committee members don't agree on something. Well, that's in the beginning of the meetings where
we are supposed to report on our our committees and what's happening in our committees which we have been doing for the last >> but where is that opportunity before March 16th. >> So on February 23rd um Dr. Shores has a
conflict and made the suggestion about moving it uh possibly to Thursday, February 26. Does that would that work for everyone? Is that a open date? And and there I think we need to have on
February 26. We may hope hopefully we will have the the state numbers, but we've got a new governor and I've seen years where that's been delayed. >> So the state aid supposed to come on February 24th. >> Okay. >> So like on the 26th, that would be like a perfect time to do a preliminary
budget presentation prior to the preliminary budget adoption. That's if everything goes according to plan based on the calendar >> because so if we did a preliminary budget presentation on February 26th to the board meeting state a comes on the
24th once you get our state aid we could pretty much balance then the next couple days >> right but then to to address Sarab's concern >> would we then vote on >> No >> it would be justice discussion >> that's my point so then we would vote on
it in what March 16th on the 16th. >> So then that addresses the concern because that gives the public an opportunity to listen and comment. Is that that's okay timing wise? >> So typically once you get your state a you have all your numbers already kind of plugged in. Once you get your state
on that Tuesday, you're pretty much could balance by the end of the week, >> right? But do you need us to vote to accept the preliminary budget on the 26th or can you wait to the 16th of March? 16th is fine because the last date to approve is March 20th. >> Okay. Does that address your concerns?
>> So that gives two weeks. >> Yeah. >> And the other concern and I' I've I've heard you um have that concern uh and maybe this year we can fulfill that uh in having some budget presentations whether it you know you go to the
schools um or you you do a presentation to the public and we've done that before. It's not a board meeting, but it is a presentation to the public be uh >> it's usually done after the preliminary budget because we have to vote on
something and then you're presenting, you know. >> So, I I I can wait. I can I can I' I'd like to provide I'd like to provide my input here for a few things. First of all, there are some statutory deadlines. First of all, and Mr. Donnie, I will I want to acknowledge I think it's important for everyone to note that the
way the state frames all this out is inherently misleading. the final budget adoption to make changes between the preliminary budget adoption and the final budget adoption in numbers is impractical and not really shouldn't be treated as
possible. There can be difference in differences in the commitments that we make from one to the other. So for example, we could say well within these numbers we now say we'll now commit that we're going to fund X program right as long as it doesn't change the numbers you can make those kinds of verbal changes. So in that sense there is some
degree of flexibility between the two but the numbers won't reflect that change. So and then and then if you want to do anything substantive you've got to stick with what it is and then you have to do transfers as soon as the school year opens which is not best practice. So the best practice is to treat the preliminary budget with a lot of
transparency especially for the board members and treat that as though that's our real budget. So my intention has been and certainly is this year to basically build this budget with a couple of contingency scenarios because you got we got to be very clear the state really paints us in a corner and
there's a lot of conversation including some uh pending some some legislation that's proposed to require the state to give us more time because we all get very very squeezed if we have a November election with this timeline because we have they basically give us the numbers on the 24th that's our state aid which
is a significant portion uh it's It's a noteworthy portion of our budget. A lot of times our our discretionary uh decisions come down to what that number is and then we have to finalize the decisions uh in terms of what's going to be in and what's going to be out and if that number comes down that becomes a
lot harder. So we'll try to create some contingencies for that. But then there's a process where we we have a duty to provide some insights to the board especially the finance committee uh with respect to where we're landing financially and usually the facilities committee if there's a facilities impact
as well and then we have to once we reach a point where we have some level of processing on that respect then we need to create then we need to finalize our budget presentation and many of the figures in that presentation change if the state numbers change not all of them
but many of them do. So, it's just a very tight squeeze for us administratively, which we're willing to do. I'm not pushing back on that. The only reason I raise awareness of this is that the tighter we squeeze that time, the the the greater the chances for human error, the greater the chances
that that that there's that there somebody feels like they weren't part of a conversation. Like, we it's harder to be as deliberative as we typically would be. So my suggestion would be that if if the if it's if the board is interested in having a public discussion about what's being proposed prior to voting
that we would either have a special meeting shortly after the 16th but before the 20th, so later that week, or we do a meeting just the week before, because we we will need a couple of weeks to do our due diligence and even with contingencies to get all of our
numbers correct, to ensure that our numbers are correct, to make sure our presentation is clean and make sure that you all have had a chance to see it before it's discussed publicly because to be clear whether your discussion happens when the vote happens or whe the vote happens after that you still need preparation before the public discussion
in the first place like I can't introduce it to you for the very first time at that first public session >> so I I'll take an example uh and we can walk through that so for example we are waiting for uh sports um numbers and how will that impact
what's our decision for this year's budget for ice hockey and uh kayak the uh rowing programs right so what from this timeline so if you're adopting the budget on March 16th when do you think
between now and March 16th when will those numbers be made available to the finance committee and then to the rest of the board um about what are the numbers and how are we going to impact the other programs what what what does that timeline look about so that's
that's in one example I can pick some other examples. >> That's it's not the best example because we've been discussing that. We have a lot of work done on that and we're actually going to be talking about that in the next month. Um but I think a maybe a better example would be something like um >> additional staffing.
>> Yeah. I mean because staffing requests are a major part of it. So as we're but but it comes down to whether it's a cut or not, right? If we're talking about purely about adding potentially like if we're in a situation where we can be we can consider additions then probably staffing and we would that conversation would come would come back up but
staffing is a better conversation because we crunch those numbers very hard really up until the final moment because that that also all the schools everybody wants more staff and we we al we always evaluate what the staffing levels currently are. So that's a that's a that's a process that that will that
will be something that would come more down the line. Um and we and and would require more deliberation near the end. >> So So what's so deadline for the preliminary adoption? >> So the the deadline is is is March 20th. >> So what if we just made a like a March
9th meeting? We do the preliminary presentation and discussion there and then preliminary adoption on the 16th. >> So the 26 you think is too early. >> Yeah, I that is too early. Please. Yes. Yeah, I I do think that's gonna because keep in mind we all need time to meet
about it before the presentation. >> Well, the 20 the 26 then it be just the discussion. >> Yeah, but keep in mind we all after the team works on it, we all need to sit in twos or ones to go over the budget, ask all the questions we have before it gets
presented. >> Yeah. You know, actually, can we >> we need time to do that? C >> can I ask let me ask a clarifying question. We talk about a discussion. I'm I'm assuming that like when we talk about a discussion that there is a substantive presentation. >> Yeah. >> That would frame the discussion, right? >> I mean like before it gets presented
publicly, we should have all individually all five either of us seen it, ask questions >> and in a finalized state, right? We're not talk we're not talking about like a contingency like well if if the number comes in here this or if the number comes this way. Yeah. We want you want something as in like this is what the numbers are. >> This is what how this this is our
decision-making logic. this is where the final recommendation lies or at least it's between these very two close points and then the board members can weigh in and then we build that presentation reflective of that conversation. Everyone processes we come to the public. Yeah, we definitely can't do
that on February 26. It will be a squeeze for March 9th >> for sure, but I mean if that's the wish of the board and we can we'll make it happen. >> Well, what So are you suggesting then we don't have a February board meeting? >> No. No. We're talking I'm talking about an additional meeting right now.
>> So what I what I mean what I what I would suggest if if we're going in this direction I would suggest that maybe we scratch the March 23rd board meeting. That's a pretty big No, that's fine. That's a month gap in between. But I I would say I'm I'm whether we whether we keep March 23rd or not, I'm I'm talking
about adding an additional meeting beyond what's here. >> Okay. >> Yeah. March 9th. >> So like like like March I mean March 9th is a full week in advance. That's definitely that that's tighter for us because you're talking about the numbers come out 24th. That's effectively one week for us to work with those. I we
can probably make that happen, but that presentation is going to come together at the last minute. >> Well, I mean, I have no objection to not doing it on a Monday. I don't know what the >> do it the Thursday before. So, that gives us Thursday to have a a public presentation, a board discussion, public
weighs in. We we vote on Monday. I I you know I know now we're talking about spending a lot of time together in close periods, but to me I would rather you not feel undue stress more than a budget presentation's going to give you anyway.
And if you need the extra couple days, you know, to do it like Thursday, what what is that then? That's the 12th or something of March. If that works for everyone else, I personally have no objection to it. >> Okay. But you're saying you're suggesting that March 12th and then a
vote on March 16th. The thought was, you know, >> is that enough time? >> Well, well, but then the public would weigh in on the 12th, >> right? >> Well, not before days is better than no days, I think, is the >> I I was just trying what I was trying to do was was to find a I don't care. Go to
the 11th. Go to Wednesday. Like I I my point was to try to find something that was workable, >> right? >> Um for everybody. It is an unusual circumstance in every single I've been on the board a whopping three years but we have this conversation every year right we're always crunched at budget time >> so
>> but you're >> all the topics will be discussed in committee meetings budget related before February 23rd and if there are concerns we can talk on 23rd at the public meeting >> yeah sure if remember rich said they're
waiting on the state figures I think 24th or might even be delayed So he's not going to really have >> You're building the budget on the on the assumption that our state aid will be will be at least flat, right? Or maybe
3% >> less% reduction 6% gain. >> Okay. So knowing that then aren't you building your budget? >> We're assuming >> with the worst case scenarios
budget, >> right? Okay. >> And and you already suggested regardless of this conversation, the suggestion was that we were going to switch the 23rd to the 26th. >> Yes. >> Right. So if we start with that, >> we at least have some information. Right.
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. I know that you you might not have, you know, every slide done, but you certainly will have the framework for that budget. >> I I do not we I don't think it's a good idea to present anything in public until
we are all aligned, we have the final numbers. Last thing we want is put out a presentation and then next meeting like, oops, it's changed. I don't think that's that. >> No, I'm not suggesting that. I I I I think you'll have the budget for the most part.
>> Even if he does, >> not in presentation. >> Even if he does, we all still need time. >> Right. >> But why not? I mean, March 9th, it gives a lot more time than the 26th. So, why not? So, are we not having a meeting on
the 26th? >> Hold on. Let's first see on the 9th. So, Rob, do you feel like if we presented the 9th and then adoption 16th? That's >> also other business, right? So, if you're not doing something until March 9th, you're going what, five, six weeks without a meeting, which I think
personally is too long. I mean, >> I'd be happy to get in and out of here. But first we all >> the other >> but all we all agreed first on the 9th would be budget presentation >> March. >> So but that that's an additional meeting. >> Additional meeting. >> Yeah that's fine. And are we moving 23rd
to 26th? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> February you're saying? >> Yes. >> Whatever whatever you guys I'm >> because that would be our meeting to discuss any items that are that come out of committee meeting that are budget related. >> Well that's we need a meeting. We need a
meeting. >> Yeah. Before Yes. So, February 26th and March 9th. >> Okay. Approve. >> And then March. >> February 26. So, I'm hearing two different things. We don't talk about the the budget because it's not
completely done or we talk about the budget. >> We talk about the items that are coming out of committee meetings. Not the whole budget, not the overall items at that point, >> but there are if there are items in committee meetings based on committee notes that need to be discussed and we break those. to a regular public
meeting. So the regular public meeting February 26th, a Thursday to accommodate the conflict. That's number one. >> Then a special public meeting >> um >> March >> on March 9th to discuss the preliminary budget, not to vote but to have the
presentation and then a meeting on March 16th >> uh to vote on the budget, >> the preliminary budget. Yeah, >> correct. The other advantage of that having the meeting on the 26th, Mr. Matthews might be able to comment and
say it's really going to be bad, you know, we have to go back to the drawing board or it's looking as we predict it. So, we might have a comment without vote at that point to put something in our
minds to think about what's happening. Would in this scenario would we as board members meet in pairs as we did? >> Yeah, we'll always be meeting. >> So, we'll do that. So, we will have some p the public would be aware. Ooh, it's going to be tighter. So, I think that
the 26 has some other merit just for you to give a little presentation, you know, not in great detail, but it's looking as we expected or not. >> It's a new governor, too. So that's my other >> sometimes there's a delay in getting the
state aid numbers when >> does that work for the people that actually have to do the work besides us >> that works for you >> and a regular and just a regular meeting >> gap might be a gap at that time
>> right >> plus the other work that we have to do I mean that's the other thing is like the the point of this 26 is a regular public meeting for board and then we go on the 9th and the 16th and that works Dr. Schwarz for you as well. >> I would say the 9th would be just about
the budget. Correct. >> Yeah, literally. I mean session on the budget. >> So So just on our side where this is going to be a challenge is the fact that we do have business that reg all the regular business that we would do in addition to the budget on February 23rd. >> 26
>> sorry 26, excuse me. >> That's okay. Then we're going to have all the regular business that we would plan as normal for March 23rd. And then in addition to all that regular business, including committees involving all of you at the same time, we're also going to be planning for two additional meetings. One that is a budget, one that
is the presentation, which is going to be just for discussion purposes. That's the March 9th >> and then the second one would be March 6th where we would come purely to vote. >> 16th, excuse me. I'm sorry. Oh, so 16th is already on the agenda. 16th is
already on the agenda. >> But what I'm saying >> March 9th is the meeting where we are doing the presentation that we would have done on 16th. >> Yes. So I'm saying so for the 16th then because that that meeting was specifically for the presentation and the vote. So we're breaking out a
presentation a week prior. Do we want to do the presentation again on the meeting on the 16th or >> if there's no change then we don't need to >> just for further discussion and a vote. >> If there's no change then we don't need to. If you don't want to get if you don't want to get if you don't want March to be the 9th, the 16th, and the
23rd, why don't you just take the 23rd since we've already voted on the budget, the preliminary budget, and switch it to shoot, I lost it. April 6th, I think, which is the Monday after >> March. It's got to be done by March. >> No, but we're voting on the 16th.
>> Yeah. >> So, I'm saying then we still we have a regular public meeting on the 23rd. And I'm saying so as not to back everybody up with preparing for regular business, put it I would put it off till the 30th, but that's spring break. So then put it off till the sticks.
>> Beginning of the break or the end of the >> I I I I appreciate the sentiment. I'm actually actually I'm I'm actually think this is fine. I'm just managing expectations. So So I think so so just to just to manage everybody's expectations, we're talking about a regular meeting on February 26. That's a Thursday, right? That's just going to be
normal business. Yep. And we also should have something of hopefully have something of an update regarding where our state aid figures landed. Plus, we'll be talking substantively about the budgeting committees in February. So, you should have a sense of an if then scenario kind of what our difficult
decisions are anyway and what we're trying to accomplish and how what our strategies are, right? So, we should have a lot of surprises and hopefully we don't see a bad surprise when the budget figures come out. It's within what we expect and budget for. Then we're just going to have a bit of a scramble then
uh in terms of fasttracking that presentation. we'll do the work that we can in advance um to get that presentation polished because you're going to you're going to have the meeting on the 9th which means you're going to need a copy of that presentation as board members certainly
by the Friday before and ideally by the Thursday before right but to be clear we're we'll be coming off of a meeting on a Thursday which means that committee meetings would need to be happening the week of
Oh, no. I'm sorry. The 26th. So, so >> we've had the committee meetings by the 26, right? >> So, we So, so those committee Well, well, I think in function what's going to happen is those committee meetings, we're just going to be coming off the heels of the other committee meetings and those committee meetings wouldn't be too substantive if we did them then. So,
we wouldn't be able to do them then. We do the presentation for the 9th. We do the presentation on the 9th with discussion. We then have to go into committees that whole week, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th. Then the 16th we would have our
we just come for the vote and any additional discussion needed. So that that would be minimal prep for us because we're not talking about preparing full agenda work of activities. We come in for the vote and then that would be the committee that would be the agenda prep finalization week where we'd meet with the board
officers and then release the the preliminary normal regular agenda to all of you by Thursday. So that so it's just it's a it's a tight several weeks. If everything goes as planned, that shouldn't be an issue. We could end up just a little bit squeezed depending on what the state does or how hard things get.
>> So just a clarification, why would we need additional committee meetings if we are adding a meeting for primar primarily just for presentation? >> No, we are separating >> they'd be the normal ones. Those are March March, >> right? So those will be happening anyway.
>> Yeah. So everything that we talked about is happening anyway except the March 16th meeting is broken into two meetings >> just the public part where one meeting is presentation and the next meeting is work. >> Exactly. That's what I
>> and everything that is happening in the background there's no additional work on that there it's >> no no those are fasttracked a little bit by one week. So it's fast track instead of March 16th it will happen by March 9th but it's not additional >> till the 16th. Right. >> Well that but that and that's why I just
wanted to be clear about our expectations. If the expectations are on the 9th all we're doing is a presentation and discussion >> and the 16th all we're doing is follow-up conversation and a vote >> y >> then then that's more manageable. The the the bigger squeeze is just that
we'll have one less we'll have like 50% less time to finalize the actual presentation itself. >> Right. So that that's the squeeze >> actual plugging the numbers so we can press finalize the actual presentation the slides the presentation where we put all the uh pro school profile the
analysis right so all of that >> and we built that template already so >> so the actual numbers because in the presentation we don't provide the actual numbers of every line item we only provide the tax impact it's I think two or three slides that that change the presentation
>> well but also then what the the slides that would include the commitments that we would make. So the decisions that we make, right? So and like we don't expect that we're going to be adding a lot this budget unless we're also removing things. So and then that's that's the hidden part that's the hardest part is
is is is man is is helping people process those decisions because you know as soon as especially in a difficult year and I we haven't had a year of like significant cuts in a little while in the district. we've been able to kind of just manage through efficiencies. But if we do end up with cuts, that's where we want to
signal those as soon as possible and let people process because you know nobody wants to see programs be taken away >> because for last few years we've been adding adding adding and we've now started also using reserves. So we'll see what what happens.
>> I'm not Yeah, I don't think I mean we and the additions we've made mostly has been through efficiencies, right? But um but we're yeah I I don't we're cut out. Yeah. >> Well, hopefully we we've we'll see some efficiencies uh in terms of overtime
uh for facilities over time and and our health benefits and >> No, I know. But but that's that's less than what we had anticipated, right? Yeah. So, you know, we'll see. >> Good.
>> Um, on a in April, I'm wondering why the April meetings aren't spaced a little bit more and maybe there's some reason that it's not the 13th and 27th >> because 27th is by when we have to vote and 20th is just the regular meeting.
>> So, after 23rd, it's 20th. So, four weeks between. I'm wondering why we don't why the 20th can't be the 13th >> because March 23rd is a regular public meeting. So after so most of these regular public meetings are four weeks
space for regular business. >> Again I'm asking if there's a reason that >> well well for me that's a there's a conference I'm considering for that week too that I prefer to avoid that week so I have the option for that. Um but but otherwise outside of that um
you know pacing regular business at about a month apart is the only reason that it's on the 20th. >> And and the reason that the reason that the final budget meeting comes up after that is because of the statutory requirements of when that needs to occur. So if we tried to combine both to for efficiency sake then then we'd be
going from March 23rd to April 21st without a meeting which is like five weeks >> which we could manage but that's not ideal. No, I'm not suggest I'm not I was just wanting but you've given me the answer why it wasn't the 13th and the 27th which would make much more sense to me.
>> We have to adopt after the 23rd. >> 27th. >> Yeah. Hold on. After a certain number of days, >> but do we have we have a deadline? >> Oh, early as possible. So, that's my question. Hang on one second.
>> We have Well, the 27th I think is the date they have to do the budget, the final budget. >> The ear Yeah. Yes. The ear the earliest is the 24th. The latest is May May 14th. >> Yeah. Yeah. You we we could do that.
>> Talking about May 4th. Okay, >> that makes more sense. I I just think that you got, >> you know, we got two >> unless the 27th is only on the final adoption.
>> Yeah. No, I mean May May 4th. I don't see a reason why May 4th wouldn't work. >> Okay. >> So, we're moving April 27th to May 4th. >> I was also thinking only one meeting. I'm talking about regular meetings. One regular meeting in
May. Now, we're taking one of the dates. Um, and June, that's time of year where there's retirements being announced and new people. It it just Oops. Is that something that we should have another
meeting either in the beginning of June or something? It just seems like we did a lot in May and June because we were talking about two meetings a month versus one. Maybe that's a time in June to have two
meetings. >> You have one on June 1st. >> Is that a mormorial? >> Well, May May 25th is uh is Memorial Day weekend. So that one's out. So again, if we wanted to have an
additional meeting for just for some flexible purposes, we could add another meeting. >> Yeah, I think that's >> in terms of the regular meeting, the 15th for June works particularly well because I would rather not be I mean that's a busy that that's a that's a difficult
time with lots of different special events, but I would rather stay away from the week of graduation just because that is just absolutely as crazy as possible. So the 15th I'd like to keep. We could add the first as a >> why don't we add as a possible
>> if I could just add if this is only for the purposes of hiring. I was actually concerned when we went to that >> format. I I was I was concerned when we first went to this format at that time of year. But what happened is it's actually better because it gives us greater amount of time to schedule and
meet with people in between those two meetings. And because we're looking at start dates for September 1, as long as we have a meeting in May and we have a meeting in June, it's fine. more frequent meetings in June as far as hiring for the beginning of the new
school year actually kind of makes it more difficult for the team because now we're like scrambling to try to hit and the admin team then is like oh I went on this meeting I wanted that meeting if there's only two meetings it's actually much more manageable from that perspective at this point just as a as a
work and process perspective so if that's the purpose it's unnecessary if there's other reasons that's fine just I I and I I don't Here's the thing and I don't have any other reasons. That's also just again incredibly busy time of the year and there's only the only space
in between those two meetings is um is is really Memorial Day weekend. So there's not a whole lot of business that can really be done during that time. So I think last year we did was we spaced it out where we did one in early June and then we did one much later late June. Uh but that created some conflicts
for people for I know for the admin side of people after graduation like leave for vacation >> and I won't be here in the June meeting. >> I'll just leave it as it is. >> Okay. >> Not in June. I know I've asked this question before,
but to to Sab's point and and I I agree that sometimes, >> you know, things just everything comes up, you know, a couple days before the meeting, we're making big decisions under pressure to the extent that we can foresee that, which you know I have, but to the extent
that we can foresee that, is it hugely difficult, expensive, or inconvenient to schedule a special meeting when we need I I always thought it wasn't that big a deal to schedule. I mean, as long as we give public notice the way we're supposed to. So, with the four weeks, we
always have the option, should we need it, right, to do a special public meeting either for executive session and or to vote on something unique where we know we're just going to take an hour or whatever. >> We certainly have done that before. >> Yeah. I mean, I think so. I I feel like if we keep that in our I I know that
that's not the way we want to do it. But if we keep that option in our back pocket so that we don't feel that we can't make decisions with the appropriate amount of time to think, >> then we do that, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. I just wanted to put that out. >> That has been the option and we've
talked about that, you know, about should we add an extra meeting or not and then the will of the board has been >> so that everyone's not around feeling the stress. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um the uh so just going through then July 20th, August 24th I had I just
so that you know because I was looking back Labor Day is the 7th of September but school starts at the uh calendar we have brew starts September 1st.
So that and then so complication would be the week of um the 24th of August. I guess it's maybe the 26th of August would be complication and then on we go. School year has begun. We've
already halfway through the year. um September then uh two meetings in September and then as we have done this year one meeting in October uh November December
the only thing that I historically and maybe I'm just I don't know I I enjoy seeing the presentations from the schools the elementary schools come and they do something and they and it gives them a chance public speaking to come
here and I just we're compacting everything and I just haven't seen that happening in the last two years by going to fewer meetings >> just this year is we but last year we did have the uh um we have many of the
schools >> right it's just that I I just don't want schools to be shut out if or think that we don't want them to present >> the kids coming the teachers coming with a program or something because I think
we should be proud of what our students do. I remember last year when we had the students talk about the inventions and all those things not that we will be shutting the but the elementary kids have things and they do interesting and
I just think the public should see that publicly or they they have a chance to shine and I just want to make sure we were talking about presentations at the end the kids can't expect to go later the elementaryaries that we don't forget
to give the children an opportunity to shine and let their parents sit there and and come to the meetings because no one's coming, you know, and maybe because they're happy, but I think they'd be happier if they see their kids. >> And I'm proud of what the children do.
>> Oh, yeah. It's >> we do more, you know. Um, just throwing this out. Would an option ever be to start the meetings at 6:30 or is work schedules uh difficult?
>> The challenge will be I think the exact we've been having a lot of executive >> we have so the executive sessions would be starting at at at at 5. >> No, I think I think let's keep the standard time. >> That's okay. >> I'm sorry. >> Let's keep the standard time. Let's not change.
>> Oh, okay. Just was wondering >> and Dr. Is there an option to set a policy that presentations should not exceed 30 minutes unless they're like really really critical we can go to 45 minutes. >> So the team will present as briefly as I tell them to. Okay.
>> Um the the issue becomes with limited amount of time are we going to is it going to convey the depth that board expects? Additionally, while in certain contexts, administrators have
dominated conversation, that is not always the case. And sometimes what is a very short conversation becomes a longer conversation. So I don't I I don't want to be I don't want to stigmatize that because I think some of the things that we deliberate on are really important
>> and we prolong the conversation. Should I say that? >> Yeah, we do. I mean, we do. But I mean I I I do but but that's but that's what but that's what you're here for. >> Yeah. I I think I think like questions discussions would be either at the end or additive. >> So yeah. So one of the things we've been
working on is >> for the presentation 30 minutes. >> Okay. Agreed. And that's what we were inter with with a few exceptions like say the school's address that's impossible but like we were working on that. I know Mr. Ross was very diligent in getting down his presentation with NJSLA down to just like a handful of
slides to keep it on half an hour and then just a big appendis appendix actually that was the longest one of the longer presentations might be the longest presentation by slides that we've that we've had >> and it was a shorter presentation so we're we are working on that I'm happy to continue with that but uh but I certainly don't want to bridge your
right to to to converse as well >> yeah absolutely >> okay well um we'll give more thought to this as we look at the agenda um and organize them um as we go through. Right now our task is are these
dates. So we have January 26, February 26, March 9th, March 16th, March 23rd, April 20th, May 4th,
May 18th, June 15th, June July 20th, August 24th, September 14th, September nomber 28th, October 26, November 16th, December
14th, and reorg is next January 4th. That's what I heard. Okay. So, let's give those to uh Lucy and then um you have I think you have a day. No, within
seven days. So, if anything like you have an aha moment, let us know. But otherwise those will be the dates we are >> to vote on this >> um >> yes we should but I wanted to I I guess
we should vote on it and then if there's Yeah. Yeah. >> So I move those states that just we just >> I think uh all of administration. >> Yeah. It's all under administration. It's part of administration. Adoption of Robert rules, adoption of board policies
and designation official newspaper. >> Okay. I move administration. >> Any more discussion on this? >> No. >> That's all the appointments. >> No, that's not yet. We have that's the next. We haven't done the appointments yet. We will do the appointments.
>> The annual appointments is next. This is just the administration. This the dates for the meetings. >> Oh, that's >> and the um designation of the official newspaper and adoption of our board policies. One thing that uh did come up uh just on
an aside when we were doing our self-evaluation and a recommendation from school boards was uh for the policy committee to take a a deeper dive into policies that have not been reviewed in
x number of years. So maybe we have some old policies that aren't coming up into Strauss estate. So that might be a task for the policy committee um this year just to take a look at those to make
sure that um the wording is consistent with how we want it. Okay. Um other than that, it's been moved and seconded. Um I think we can go ahead and vote on administration. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Sandy. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. On the annual appointments, these are pretty much the same ones that we have. >> I'll I'll move the annual appointments. >> Okay. Excuse me, Miss Bergen. I'm sorry.
just on B2 for section 504 coordinator. That was a shift this year and I'm sorry I didn't catch this earlier. Um but that should be director of school counseling for 504. >> Which which one is that? That's B2. >> We have the 504 the ADA.
>> Yes. >> This is the director of school counseling. >> Correct. Okay. >> That's a change because the that person didn't exist last year. We've separated the two responsibilities. >> Correct. Thank you for catching that.
I also have a quick edit. Uh B4, uh it says title four. That should be title nine. >> Mhm. >> Both places. And it should say the 26 2026 year. >> Oh, your version has that?
>> Yeah. >> All right. All right. So, so I'm just declaring that for the public then because that was a change from the uh from the what was released initially. >> Any questions on that? >> I'll move section B with those revised changes.
>> I'll second that. And u under discussion. So for the uh custodial of public courts uh Mr. Matthews you may not have the answer right now because uh I'm just asking it
but just something to investigate. There was a new uh OPRA law that was passed about a year ago and that I think provided some funds to um
create state sponsored sites where contracts and other documents can be housed or posted and uh some more specific documents were required to be updated or made publicly available proactively. I think that's how they
balanced it that they they made it uh more frequent requests eliminated more frequent requests by making them difficult or by asking uh uh requesters to pay for that. But at the same time uh the legislation also
provided some funds for state to host a website where districts and municipalities can start uploading their documents or uh funds to enhance our systems and I think required some document more documents to be publicly available. So we may want to just look
at into those uh that law because now it's more than more than a year that if we are required to publish more than what we are just publishing in the agenda as from our like financial contracts we'll review that we'll get poster go
back with you. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. We'll go to um C which is
um authorization uh annual authorizations payment of bills between board meetings and designation of business administrator transfer authority. I move annual authorizations.
>> I'll second that. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. We'll go to um comments from the public now. Um there is no one here at the board of education. I don't know if
there's anybody who is joining us remotely. Not seeing any. I'll close public comment and um we'll go to consent items and uh A is administration.
I move administration. >> I'll second it. Second by standing. Roll call. Mr. Broen, >> yes. >> Mr. Donnie, >> yes. >> Miss Andy, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Miss Macau, >> yes.
>> Affirmative. >> Human resources. We have some appointments. Um, and oh, those the attendance at conference and curriculum instruction I guess will come next.
Okay. So just uh just human resources. Would someone like to move that? >> I'll move that. Thank you. >> I move human resources. >> Move and second. Roll call. Miss Rogan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Donnie. >> Yes. >> Miss. Sandy. >> Yes.
>> Mr. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. >> I have affirmative. >> Okay. Consent items. Uh this is uh Roman numeral 12 C and D attendance at conference and curriculum instruction.
They were just added uh today I believe. >> Yeah, the these are just two opportunities that were emergent and were were relevant that we wanted to rather than seek retroactive approval, we thought we'd bring them to you today. Again, we try to restrict these, but these are opportunities for both staff and students that emerged very recently.
>> Right. Um, I move um C and D. I'll second it. Move and second it. C and D. >> Okay. Wallrogen. >> Yes. >> Mr. Donnie. >> Yes. Miss Andy. >> Yes.
>> Makmoo. >> Yes. >> M. >> Yes. Five. >> Affirmative for CND. Um board member announcements. Uh I don't know if there any um but everybody welcome back and uh school's already
started. I um Eli, do you have a you don't have a report? >> Oh, did you have a report tonight? I'm sorry. >> Uh I >> uh first of all, happy new year. I was just going to plug this now that we're in January. I'm part of the Martin
Luther King Day committee for Richmond and Glenrock. We have stuff obviously that's in two weeks from today. Uh we have an interfaith worship service here in town. We also have a movie at the library on Monday and a day of service
on Saturday if anyone's interested. I have stuff. You're all in everyone the whole public's invited. It's obviously a free event. >> The movie's on Monday and not on fs on Friday. The interfaith service is on Monday.
>> Monday. Yeah. Great. Um, you have a flyer that's already because I have not seen it yet. Oh, great. Um, is that your only one? I mean, >> oh, I Yes. I mean, that would be good. But I'm sure that um we'll put it out in
our um it will do. You already have the information? >> No. Okay. All righty. >> Great. But thank you. Yeah, that's always um good. >> Guess I won't give it to you. >> I guess I won't give it to you.
>> I did want to know that they >> got it. Um I did want to um because it's go board goals and I don't want to have a discussion tonight but I want to have like a just sort of a preliminary. So
what I did is I put together um you'll see each one will get a copy what what our goals were for 2025 which we've already discussed and then possible again this is just draft possible goal
areas for 2026. So, what I'm I'm hoping that you'll take some time um over the next 10 days or so and and give some thought to what the goals you think we should be
working on and perhaps there are some from last year that we may want to continue on with and that might be uh the finance goal maybe rewarded a different way. um we may want to keep our focus on fields um and then of
course vision 2030 but then um what else is important I tried to look at I I mean I didn't try I looked at our um our self-evaluation and one thing that
that hit home to me was facilities and an area of focus that uh the the board um identified was um evaluating um our aging facilities and moving
forward forward with a um multi-year plan as to how to address it. So um but see what you think and um give some think I have enough for everybody.
Eli should get one too, just so you're part of the conversation. >> Do you Do you want us, Sheila, to um send comments? >> Yeah, send to me and then I'll try to put it together and we'll have this discussion and we'll have it on the um
>> January 26th or >> February. Yeah. Or February 26. Yeah, >> January. January 26. >> So, we would have that on the agenda as other business. Yeah, the the idea uh Dr. Schwarz just
again the idea of the policy too looking at our reviewing policies that have not been reviewed in in multiple years. >> It's a great example. >> Um so that might be also we don't need a lot, right? Last year we had five. Um,
so we don't want to reinvent the wheel here. I think there's a lot of work already being done in in the uh um other than that um I'll open again for uh comments from the public.
Seeing none, I will close public comment and um make a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> May I have a second? Okay. All in favor or would you prefer to stay till 10 o'clock and we'll figure out something
else to do? Maybe a presentation or two. >> All right. >> Thank you. Thanks. Happy New Year. >> Happy New Year everyone. And we're back on January 26th.