notice that this remote meeting was published in the Bergen record, posted on the front doors of Burough Hall, and posted on the Burough's website. The notice included the dial in and login information necessary for public participation and access to this meeting remotely. Copy of the agenda for this meeting was made available on the Burough's website near the posting of
the meeting notice and included the dial in and login information during the public comment period of this meeting. If you would like to make a public comment, please press the raise hand button on Zoom or dial star9 on your telephone keypad to raise your hand. The board will address you by name or by the last four digits of your
telephone number. You may mute and unmute yourself by pressing the microphone icon on Zoom or dialing star six on your telephone keypad. You must state your name and address clearly prior to making a public comment. With that, I will ask Miss Stinley to
call the role, please. All right. Mr. Mayor, the mayor is excused tonight. Um, Mr. Kaslin, here. Miss Boland here. Mr. Goautier here. Mr. Feffer
here. Uh, Mr. Craig here. Mr. Kigo here. The councilman is excused tonight. Uh, Mr. Gibbons here. Mr. Saba
here. Miss Lavine. I don't think I saw her. So, not at the moment. Also, we have our special counsel, Mr. Leeman, our zoning officer, Mr. Deppkin, our board planner, Mr. Barren, and our board engineer, Mr. Costa.
Okay. Thank you, Mr. Stinley. Uh, as a procedural matter, we're going to establish a 10 p.m. curfew for this evening's meeting. Moving into our agenda, uh, first item for this evening is under the approval of minutes. We have a set of minutes from our September
10th, 2025 meeting that was circulated to the board prior to this evening's meeting for review. I open it to the board for comments or questions on the draft minutes as provided. There being none, I'll look for a motion to approve the minutes. So moved.
Thank you, Mr. Cra. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Modier. And this could be a voice vote. Only Miss Boland was absent. Okay. The exception of Miss Boland. All those otherwise I'll qualify to vote.
All in favor? I I. Any opposed? All right. Our next agenda item this evening under discussion pertains to our continuing discussion
regarding uh provisions to the setback requirements for HBAC units and uh gen backup or standby generators. Um Mr. Deppkin circulated uh revised
proposed code changes for the board's review this evening. Mr. Debkin, I don't know if you want to give a brief update as to your revisions. Certainly. Thank you, chairman. Hello, board. Um, yeah, the regulations for
generators uh and um air conditioners. Uh I did u some changes in that as in regards to what uh what the board was speaking about at last meeting. Um, I noticed that uh in u yard regulations,
general applications, the first uh first paragraph, ground mounted air conditioners. Um, I wanted to put in there uh at the bottom of this the last sentence um where it says a three-foot fence or a mature evergreen shrubberies.
Um I have that in the other sections, but I I omitted that uh in error there. Um but basically um yard regulations I think it's fine um in those sections. I think maybe if the board wants to discuss in regards to uh the um
distances you know I put u you know certain ones in there but I know that the board had some uh you know comments in regards to um you know the setbacks and from the uh you know from the property line. I think it more important that uh you decide the distances from
the property line because the uh units themselves will generally dictate um how close it can be to to the house um or to a combustible um you know combustibles.
Um and I think the same with generators. Uh although I think you want to make sure that you put in a distance um you know a maximum distance from the house uh since u you know some people like to or have I've seen in the past where they have tried to put them uh away from
their house so they don't have to hear the noise and it ends up uh you know in the back of the property somewhere that would disturb neighbors. But other than that, u I think I've hit all the uh hit all your comments and uh if anybody has
any questions, uh let me know. Thank you, Mr. Deepkin. Questions or comments from the board? Okay. Um, if they're Mr. Just one very minor clarification where it says three-foot fence, maybe
make it three-foot solid fence. I know that sounds nitpicky, but the purpose is screening obviously. So, just I could see people trying to be sneaky with that. Okay, that's that's good nitpicky thing, but uh thanks Steve for
bringing this to our attention. You're welcome. And final thing would be just to clean up any other parts of the existing um accessory structures ordinance that have to be deleted. So here we're creating new regulations under yard regulations.
We just have to be sure to eliminate the old provisions that are not working under the accessory building accessory structure section. Okay. So are you able now with between you and Steve to coordinate those those revisions to the
Yeah, Marina. Yeah, we'll just eliminate alles and this will be we can put it into a more formal ordinance um format so then we can send it to the council as well.
Any objections from the board? Okay, very good. Well, uh, let me offer my thanks to Tom and Steve for, um, your assistance in helping us navigate through through this particular topic.
You're welcome. Our next item for discussion this evening is our current fee for site plan review on retail food establishments. Um, where there are no changes to the
subject property. uh were our current um escro fee is the amount of $375 and there's a proposal at hand to uh increase that number to $700.
Open it to discussion with the board. Anyone comments or questions or concerns on that proposal? It seems my my my Alzheimer's is kicking in. Um the the
kind of data that's driving the need for the change. What like kind of what are we experiencing with it at its current level and why the amount of increase that we're looking at? Yeah, I think we had talked about that before, but I'll I'll let Mr. Alter
give us some perspective. Currently, it's 375 if there's no changes. And that gets used up probably within one week after uh we have a hearing just uh such as recently. And I'm constantly chasing after everybody
for uh increases in the escrow. So, it's it's a very low figure compared to what we use now. professionals charge much much more and even uh food handler site plan reviews uh that require no change
must get reviewed by the professionals incurring charges Mr. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Marina. Go ahead. This would be a recommendation to the to the town to make this change on our behalf. Right.
And Mr. Chairman, just for clarification, this is an escrow deposit, right? So, if there's anything left over in certain circumstances, it gets refunded to the business. Is that right? That's correct, Mr. Beer. Thank you. I I would think with that if if we
really are using 750 and they'll get back anything extra, I don't think we need to be making any more work for Mr. Alter chasing people around. Okay. So, Marina, we'll make that recommendation. Yeah, you could just a
vote to make the recommendation to the council and then Ed can take it back to the administration. Okay. Um so with with that proposal at hand, um can I have a motion to approve that as a recommendation? So move.
Thank you, Mr. Pepper. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Miss Bolan. And just a voice vote. Voice vote. Okay. Okay. All in favor? I I I. Any opposed? Any abstain?
Okay. Thank you very much. We're going to um move we're not going to address uh the moralization for KCK bagel shop this evening. Um that will be uh handled at a a later meeting. Miss Styley, I don't know if you have anything you want to
add to that. Yes. So, we re I've been in touch with the applicant's attorney, Mr. Barrett, and um in coordination with Mr. Alter. There's still outstanding escrow um payments that need to be made. Um
so, I would not recommend memorializing um the resolution tonight until that's sorted out. Any questions from the board? Okay. Uh that will take us then
to our next agenda item under old business. The applicant is IAT Services LLC property in 41 Grand Avenue block 1405 lot 4 seeking approval for the installation of a billboard. This is a
continuation of the application that was started at our July 9th, 2025 meeting. I believe the applicant's attorney is with us this evening. Good evening, Mr. Sneesi. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board and board staff. My name is
Steven Cinei, and I have the privilege of representing the applicant that you've just identified in connection with its we'll call the billboard application. It's a static and not digital billboard application.
and the location is in the C2 commercial uh zone, but you did hear all of that when our engineer testified at our first hearing. So, I will try to be as brief as possible in light of the curfew uh
because we still have uh uh a little cleanup with the engineer and we have uh our traffic consultant uh who will be joining us. He's actually doing a project now in Raritan and he's
going to call in when he's excused. Uh and lastly, I will have our professional planner. Uh we have provided as you may know um a uh index or compilation of the exhibits and we
will go through those through each witness who prepared them. So, as I said, uh, let's get down to it. Okay. I'm going to call Mr. William vote back up and ask you, Mr. Chairman, uh, you
know that you know that he was previously qualified as our projects engineer when he first appeared. Would you like me to re-qualify him with his credentials? Uh, for the record, let me just make
note that Mr. Leeman is now acting as uh board counsel for this particular application. Yes. And I'm going to log off. Thank you, Miss Steinley. Thank you for joining us this evening. Have a great night. You too. Thank you. And I'll turn to Mr. Leeman. Any need to
re-qualify Mr. vote? No, there's there's no need for that. I I do want to get um on the record any objectors councils or interested parties attorneys that are here um just for the sake of the record and I just want to confirm Mr. Alter this uh Zoom meeting
is being recorded. Is that correct? You're muted but I presume you resp All right. So um let's see Mr. Par I see is here. Mr. Par, can you just put your appearance on the record again and your name and who
you represent? Robert S. Par. P E C K A R P and Abramson representing the owners of 70 Grand Avenue where our offices are located. Grand four Associates. Okay. Mr. Sarlo.
Uh good evening, councelor, chairman, board members. Charles H. Sarlo, S A R L O. on behalf of the uh property owner of 335 Johnson Avenue, that's Darkstar Development LLC, as well as the primary tenant, to be at that uh location, Let
It Grow, Inc., I do just want to from a housekeeper and procedural standpoint, if you get to the opposition this evening, I will have two witnesses to testify. All right. Thank you for letting us know. And good evening, Jeffrey Cheney, law
firm of Connell Foley. I'm stepping in for Tim Corrison this evening. Uh so just as a update to the prior to last meeting uh we're also entering an appearance this evening uh uh so so we previously entered an appearance on behalf of uh 41 sorry on behalf of Route
4 Main Street and the in uh estate of E Tambburelli hyphen trust B. But we're also this evening entering an appearance on behalf of 41 Grand LLC, who is the owner of uh bear with me one second so I
can get you to the correct block. Uh block 1405, lot one and lot six. All right, Mr. Cheney, if sometime in the future if you could just get a letter to the board u listing who all your clients are just so we have
complete clarity on that. Of course, we don't need it right now. All right. Are there any other attorneys that are representing interested parties? If there are, now's the time to raise your hand and identify yourself. Okay. All right, Mr. Chairman. There being none, I suggest you turn the
meeting back over to Mr. Seni. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Leeman. Mr. Si, floor is yours. Um, Mr. Voy, are you present and ready to testify? Uh, yes, I am. Good evening. Good. Um, subsequent to your last appearance
before the board, did you have the occasion to reflect on the comments uh andor questions of various members of the board, its consultants and uh attorneys representing various parties
in opposition to this application? Uh I I did and we uh subsequently resubmitted uh some updated information to uh to River Edge. Okay. Uh one question ahead of that though. Thank you for your uh answer.
Did you discuss uh those comments andor questions with our mutual client and other project team members? Uh yes I did. Okay. To that end, I'm going to uh show you an updated survey prepared by William C.
Bootshock PLS consisting of one sheet and revised on July 10, 2025 which was updated to include the route for right of way. Is that correct? Uh that's correct.
Okay. Can you show that on the uh Sure. Okay. Uh, can everyone see my screen? Well, sort of. Yes, I I can see what's the finite details I may have troubles with,
but I see it. How about everyone else? I can see it. And I just want to note for the record, Mr. CI, that um we just had uh Tracy Lavine join the uh the meeting. Alternate number two. Oh, okay. Thank you,
Mr. Chairman. I believe the screen could be enlarged if if that's possible. I think it would be helpful to everyone. Uh sure. Um and and I'll I'll scroll through. I'm going to I'm going to probably jump to another exhibit that shows it just a little clearer uh for
everyone, but I I can I can just run through the survey um really quick. Yeah. I want you to address the the reason for this exhibit that was raised by I believe one of the objectors and
that is why I believe you prepared it. Is that correct? Well, there was some um there were some questions about showing the um extensive right of way of Route 4 and how much property frontage uh the
subject site has along the Route 4 right ofway. So, what is depicted on the updated survey? Sure. So, I'm I'm just going to zoom in. Uh the the subject property line um is this dark um black
uh line with two dashes in it. Um at the corner of the uh Route 4 and Grand Avenue where the um the egress ramp is to Route 4. Yes.
Our frontage um is uh approximately 27.27 27 linear feet. And that that is the length of the two curves that share the common property line with the Route
4 right ofway. And then what we also showed on the uh survey was the um the southern portions of the Route 4 right ofway uh to the south which is
this green line and then to the north again the route 4 um right ofway line to the north. Um, if if I may, I can I can switch to the site plan rendering. Uh, that
Well, I'd like you I'd like you to wait for a minute because uh I'd like to first mark this document now that you've introduced it uh and explained it um to this extent. Um so, Mr. Leeman and chair, uh I'd like to make this our next
exhibit, which I believe is A7. Sounds right. Let me just check my notes. Yeah, A6 was the colorized aerial. So, this is the next exhibit. Uh, now Mr. boy. I'm going to show you
or ask you to put on the screen the revised site plans entitled site plan consisting of three pages revised through September 2nd of this year together with your correspondence
uh bearing the same date and summarizing the plan changes. That that's correct. That's what I have up on the screen is exhibit A8. And it's again the the beginning is uh Stephen,
it's your submission letter. It has my cover letter explaining the changes. Um there were really two changes that were shown on the site plans. We uh illustrated the route for right-ofway and we also showed the limit of
disturbance for the footprint of the uh foundation the sales school that was required for the uh Bergen County soil exemption um application that we submitted and those changes are identified on an
accompanying summary correspondence. Correct. That's correct. All right. Uh Mr. Chairman and Mr. Leeman, I'd like to mark the revised site plans prepared by our project engineer as A8 and collectively meaning the site
plan itself together with his correspondence explaining the changes and I think your enclosure letter is part of the same PDF. So, we'll include that also. Can you just go up uh Mr. Voit to the to the top of the PDF so I can get the date of Mr. Cine's letter to
my notes? Uh, sure. Your letter is 9225. This is is 9425. Thank you. Sure. Okay. Okay. So, uh again, just to reiterate,
um the proposed billboard again is is located at the intersection of Grand Avenue and Route 4. Um again the site frontage along the route four right ofway is uh the combination of these two
um radial curves which have a length of 11.27 and 16 for a total length of 27.27 ft. And then we depicted um again the
route for right of way uh to the north and then the route for right of way to the south. Thank you. Did you also prepare a site plan rendering to reflect the sign
location in the DOT right of way? I I did. We want to pull that up. Sure. and tell us what is depicted on that rendering. Sure. So, this is ju this is a um this
is a copy of the site plan sheet C-02. It has the same date um of 9225 and all we did is we just added some color um to help with our presentation.
Um so the site property boundary is outlined in red. And then the DOT right ofway is outlined in blue. And then you can see that shared
property line um that I referred to that the 27.27 ft along the frontage of uh the Route 4 right ofway. So I I think this gives the clearest picture uh or the simplest picture of uh
what was requested of us um at the last hearing. Thank you. Can we move that as exhibit A8 A? Yes, Mr. Leeman. You're good with that? 8 A.
Yeah. Cap. It's capital A little A lower case. Sorry. You're right. Okay. Um, Mr. Boy, the applicant was also asked uh to obtain additional
lighting information to support prior testimony you gave that the proposed lighting will not have a negative impact to adjacent properties like spillage or lighting that projects beyond the sign
or much beyond the sign. Do you recall that uh discussion? Uh yes I do. Were you in touch at our suggestion with the lighting vendor and provided with additional specifications? I I was
okay. What did those additional specifications you obtained reflect? Uh sure. So, let I'm just going to go back to exhibit A8 to the site plans. And on
sheet CO3 where we have the sign elevation, um we initially presented um the illumination levels um on the sign face uh from the four
exterior uh lights that are directed towards the sign face. And you can see um the foot candles that are shown on the 14x 48 sign face. Um you have
the highest level is basically directly in the center of the proposed sign at 48.1. And then as you move away to the left and to the right, you can see that the lighting levels drop down uh to the
bottom leftand corner. It's uh 23.3 foot candles to the bottom right you have again 23.3 ft candles and then on the two uh upper top left and top right
sides you can see the foot candle levels are 14.1. Um so what we did is we spoke with the lighting manufacturer. They provided us with some additional um light spillage that goes beyond the
sign face. And now I can I can switch to the lighting exhibit that was submitted. Um I believe that's A9. Uh Steve, is that is that okay? A A9. Well, I I would ask that
um A9 is fine for me. Um I think we have uh Mr. froze. Yeah, Mr. Chenise, I think you froze up a little bit there. Let's give his computer a moment to adjust. Okay. This technology works. It's so great.
But when it doesn't, it's like so annoying. Yeah. You know, is it on my end? I think that it is on your end, Steve. There's a there's a delay in your video, Steve. You're Hey, if I hit
Take down the exhibit. Mr. Voy, can you stop the sheriff? Oh, sure. Where's Steve? Yeah, I think he's still having some challenges. All right, I'm going to call Mr. Si on his cell phone and suggest that he um
restart his computer. I think we've all been there at least once or twice since the co days. Steve, can you hear me? Or Hall can open soon enough. Hello.
Yeah. Okay, I connected with Mr. Sini and he's going to restart his computer and come back to the meeting. Can you Okay. Yeah. I find when this happens, the best thing to do is like shut the whole computer down and re shut the whole computer and reboot the whole
computer. Yeah. If he's got it if he's got it gallery. Yeah. Yeah. No, we we'll be patient. I know sometimes it takes a few minutes. Okay. We'll wait. Yeah. If he has it in gallery view, he may want to take that off and let it go to just the speaker because there's he
may be eating up his bandwidth with the gallery view. See if we can do that. Oh, he can do that himself. All right, I'll I'll suggest that to him. Yeah. If if this doesn't work, we'll tell him to uh log in. Actually, I was
going to say we'll ask him to log in on his phone, but I I happen to know that Mr. EC is the last lawyer I know who's carrying a flip phone. So, he's not using his iPhone. [Music] Hello.
Okay, that's fine. Yeah, take your time. I was say, do you have an iPad? That might be good to use also. An iPad would be good. Yeah, you could. Yeah, I picked that one, but I think this is going to work.
All right, try that. We'll wait for you. Mr. Si is going to try a different computer that he has. Okay. The good news is we could be back in Bur Hall next week.
We're going to have to go to Burough Hall next time we do this. Um, it's up to the board obviously, but it's it should be as long as Steve I don't know where Steve went to. I saw him before. As long as Steve gives a CO hopefully on Monday. Yes.
Okay. Hall will be back open. Uh, while we're waiting, can someone tell me when the next meeting is because I'll make sure it's on my calendar. Mr. for next meeting is October 8th, but as of now it might be cancelled. I'm
not sure. Okay. Depending if we have to carry this application. Yeah, I don't think we're going to finish this tonight. That's why I was asking Mr. Chairman, I suggest we give this a few more minutes and then if it's not going to work, uh, I would definitely,
um, recommend we follow Mr. Costa's suggestion. Well, yeah. I have no no intention of holding this gallery all night. Um, you know, we'll give him a reason we'll give him a reasonable period to try to
get himself back on on the line. Failing that, we'll consider alternatives. Yeah. Hello. Um, yeah, you could do it just by a phone call if you can't get the video to work if you're comfortable with that.
Okay. that exhibit when on the screen. Yep. Something off. I don't know what it is. That's not that bad. Yeah. It just absorbs too much bandwidth on your computer. That's fine. We don't need to see you. You can you can keep
your camera off. All right. So, are you in the are you in the room now? I don't see your name there. And can you see if Mr. is in the room without a camera on. Yeah, I'm looking.
Yeah, I don't see him. All right. Is he thinks that he can join us, but he just can't have his camera on, so we can't see him, which we don't need to see him. He's not testing. I don't see him in the room. Let's give him a moment to to log back in.
Can he call in on a cell phone? He can. And he could call me and I'll put my cell phone next to the computer. Um, but I think he's going to want to see the exhibits that arise. He's he's going to need a video connection even if it's just one way. Let's give him a few
minutes. It's only 8:15 and if we can't get this sorted out, say like the next 10 minutes, I would suggest that we adjourn it. He's calling me back. Hello. All right. Here you
Okay. Ed, do you see Mr. Sini in the uh or entering the meeting? All right. I do not see him. All right, Steve. I'm going to send you a No. C. Can Can you see us?
Yeah. Can you see us? You can minute. Yep. Trying something else. All right. I heard it say recording in progress. I think he's coming into the main almost there.
Okay. Hello. Oh, yes. No, I don't I don't see you. You can see all Hold on. You may be listed as as a visitor instead of a panelist. Hold on.
Mark, is he coming in as Renee Cardone? Oh, yeah. Are you coming in as a Renee Cardone? Okay. Okay. All right. There's Let's see if you're coming in now.
You're You want to be a panelist? Is he Renee Cardone? Yes. There you go. Okay, we see you there, Renee. Steve, I'm hanging up the phone. Can you hear us through the computer?
Okay, Steve, can you say something? Can you hear me? Can hear you. Okay, I'm going to change the name on the screen so we know that that's you. Looks like he froze again. Nope. Steve, can you hear us through the
computer there? It's got a Wi-Fi problem in the house. Yeah, it's what happens if you live in those fancy towns. Well, that's what it is. You know, rich people have cell phones. They don't want cell towers. Either that or uh Mr. Chairman, maybe
tomorrow morning we suggest that Mr. goes e either to Best Buy or one of those places or the Apple store, go back to Rabbit or Yeah, I think the uh the IBM with the A and the B drive is just not working.
Hello. I can hear you through my phone, but not through the computer. Yeah, that's fine. All right. Can everybody hear? I'm getting feedback. Let me Okay. All right, Steve,
say something. Testing one, two. Testing one, two. All right. So, there's a lot of feed feedback. I I don't think this is going to work.
I would agree with that. Yeah, Mark. I think we're at that point where All right, let me mute myself here so the feedback doesn't torture me anymore. So there's no phone number that he can
just call into this when we get the email with this. There's a million phone numbers, isn't there? Yes. Can he not just call into one of those and just be You can I think that is he may not be able to see what's happening.
He can't see he can't see the exhibits. He's he's he's making he's he's questioning the uh and he can't see. Can he do that on his phone and log in as
a panelist on the computer? Yeah, let me call him and see if he's ready to try that. Otherwise, I think we've been at this for a good 30 minutes right now, Mr. Chairman. Yeah, it may be time to say I will see you all
in person in October. Let me try and get him on the phone. I'm going to step away from the computer so I don't get all the feedback going on. All right. Um, this does not seem to be working. I think the next one is October.
No, no, I know it's could just be something funky that's happening now. But yeah, the the board is kind of kind of wants to push it off. Let me let me get back to my I shut away
from my He's back. He's on. Yep. I just wanted to He's now on. Mark, he's back. All right, Steve. I'm hanging up the phone. Okay.
Can you take him off mute? Yeah, he he said he went back to the first computer. Can you hear me now? Yes, that's working. Okay. Oh, so sorry. Apologize to all. Um I think we had on
the screen the lighting specs. Uh, and I asked that they be marked A9. That's where I left off or lost contact. That's uh what I have in my notes. Okay,
Steve, my suggestion is going to be that you turn your um camera off so we can't see you and that sometimes makes things run a little bit smoother. And did you just freeze again? Yeah. Yep. So, you want the camera off, you're
saying? Yeah, I I think turn turn your camera off. You froze again. Yeah, he keeps freezing. All right, this is not going to work. Let me um let me call Mr.
The camera's off. The camera's off. But is he still I I don't see him as a Yeah, he's in he's in at the it just has his name at the bottom of the screen. It's a black screen. Black box. Okay. But I don't think we're getting the audio. Yeah. Yeah.
He's there. All right. His video keeps freezing. Yeah. And it's freezing his audio, too. I'm sure he's not sitting there silently right now. Yeah, Mark, I think why don't we uh Okay, let me get him on the cell phone
so we can make the announcement together. Okay, Steve, can you hear me? Yes. Okay, we're going to carry this meeting to October 15th at 7:30 p.m. in Burough Hall. There will be no further notice.
This is the notice for the public. Anybody who's here that wants to be heard on this application or ask questions. It's not October 15th. It's October 8th. Oh, excuse me. October 8th at 7:30 p.m. at Burrow Hall.
I'm very sorry. It's okay. Just happens. Yeah. Wow. All right. All right. Have a good night. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. So, I think that's the uh that's the end of our agenda this
evening. Unless anyone else from the board is any any new business comments? If not, I will look for a motion to adjourn the meeting, please. So, moved. Just confirm that the next meeting is October 8th at 7:30. Okay.
On Zoom. I thought we were do it in person. Not yet. Now, the may the mayor the mayor said at last meeting that he would let us know when we'd be going back to Burough Hall that there's some logistics that they have to take care of over there with, you know, where where they
have the offices currently and what they have to move and such. So, okay. So, to be clear, the meeting is going to be October 8th, 7:30 p.m. on Zoom, correct? The same link or a new link will be posted. No, I'll have to send out a new link to
everybody. Okay. A new link will be posted on the burrow website 7:30m. Yes. No further notice. This is the notice. Okay. Mr. Leeman, uh this is Paul and Barado, uh Darkstar Developers. Y
um I have a conflict and our planner who is on this call as well has a conflict for that date and I just try to call Charles or text Charles to uh let him let you guys know that. But uh uh he just popped on. So,
all right. Um, I'll be out of the country. I saw I saw your thing come in. Um, and Mark, I I'm going to be in Elwood Park that night at 7:30. Okay. Um, I don't know how long I'll be. I'm not sure where on the agenda I am. Well, you can, I'm afraid.
All right. Well, let's let's leave it where it is now. The meetings are going to be video recorded, so we can get you a recording of the entire meeting. I do not think we're going to complete this in one additional meeting. And um if it's going to be online, we can make sure that
whatever witnesses testify are available for you, Mr. Sorrow, if you have follow-up questions. If you can't make it to the meeting, um I think that's really the best that we can do to try and move this forward. Just so you know, the following meeting is October 22nd.
When is the following meeting? October 22nd. Okay. Okay. So, I'll have an opportunity then to finish and be listed on both those agendas. Is can I assume that?
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Another day. All right. And of course, now he's working fine. All right. So, October 8th
7:30 p.m. on Zoom. On Zoom. Okay. Correct. Okay. All right. Motion motion to adjourn, please. That I think I have Mr. Given on a first and Mr. Kig second. All in favor?
I I abstain. We stand a journ at 8:32 p.m. Thank you all. Have a great evening. Good night. Good night. Good night, everyone.