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Part 1 (Video ID: i8jPtjMVyYs):
- 00:00:08: Meeting Opening, Flag Salute, and Roseland Heat Recognition
- 00:04:53: Roseland Sparks Recognition and Police Department Commendations
- 00:15:34: Mothers of the Year Awards and Mental Health Proclamation
- 00:23:47: Honorary Mayor Swearing-In and Essex County Announcements
- 00:28:50: Public Comment #1: Laura Morowitz on ICE Presence
- 00:31:29: Public Comment #2: Jonathan Bellac on ICE Lawlessness
- 00:33:55: Public Comment #3: Rich Lorenzo on ICE Misrepresentation
- 00:39:48: Public Comment #4: Kyle Kovat on Municipal Parking Lot
- 00:42:14: Public Comment #5: Steve Saparo on ICE Values
- 00:45:12: Public Comment #6: James Bennett on Constitutional Obligation
- 00:46:34: Public Comment #7: Christine Jacobson on Roseland's Legacy
- 00:47:15: Public Comment #8: Chiller Rosa on Delaney Hall Conditions
- 00:52:34: Public Comment #9: Dancy Mock on ICE Concerns
- 00:54:09: Public Comment #10: Alex Vainrock on Lawyers and Taxes
- 00:56:20: Appointments, Ordinance Introductions, and Public Hearings
- 01:05:57: Approval of Bills, Resolutions, and Mayors Report
- 01:07:59: Council Reports: Communications, Recreation, Ebikes, Fullerton Bridge
- 01:10:24: Council Reports: Police Commendations and Pedestrian Signs
- 01:13:09: Council Reports: Beautification Committee and Food Bank
- 01:14:31: Approval of Minutes and Second Round of Public Comment


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Yes. >> Yeah, >> I know. >> Good evening and welcome to the May 26, 2026 meeting of the Rosland Governing body. Adequate notice of meeting provided in accordance with the open public meeting act that the date, time, and location meeting were included any meeting schedule post on the public poll report in the municipal building and

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file in the office of the burough clerk. Those attending tonight's meeting via Zoom, the agenda, and any other relevant documents can be found on the Burl's website attached to the meeting notice post in the news and announcement section. During the meeting, announcement made prior to the two public comment periods. Anyone wishing to make a public comment via computer will be instructed to use the raise your

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hand icon and anyone wishing to make a public comment via telephone will be instructed to dial star9 at the appropriate time. For those in attendance in person or remotely, please provide your name and address when selected. If you are eligible for Daniel's Law, please just announce your name. Mr. Watkins, please call the role. Mayor Spango >> present. >> Mr. Bardy

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>> here. >> Mr. Bront >> here. >> Mrs. Paratti >> here. >> Mr. Schroeder >> here. >> Mrs. Tolley >> here. >> Mr. Trillo >> here. >> Please rise for the flag salute. >> Pledge allegiance >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it

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stands. One nation under God, indivisibley and justice for all. Thank you. We have a number of proclamations. We're going to move the uh proclamation agenda around. Some some of our youth have a

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>> baseball triyout. Correct, L? >> That's right. >> Um so we are going to start with the Roseand Heat. Must be hot. >> All right. Uh, this is an easy one for

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us. Head coach of the Rosland Heat. Councilman Trillo, assistant coach Brian Meyer. >> Uh, team Adam Trillo. Come up guys. Get your t-shirts and go in the front. Christopher Stephanakis, >> Daniel Lopez,

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Ferris Milando, Grayson Finley, Lucian Kim, Mason Alivera, Nathan Vanrock, Noah Cedric, and Patrick Meyer. >> You know the drill, Adam. You must have won a couple championships, huh?

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[laughter] Are you keeping track, Trillo? >> Too much. >> Good [laughter] answer. >> Little conf little conflict of interest. >> All right. So, uh interesting team this year. We didn't start off great, uh, but then we all kind of gelled, pulled it

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together, and, uh, like I always like, we beat Fairfield in the championship, so that's always good. Some oldfashioned basketball. And we will say, Rose, the Roseanne teams are the most competitive games in the playoffs. I think we beat one Roseanne team by two and the other Roseanne team

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in overtime. So, uh, Roseanne had a lot to be proud of this year on the basketball court for this age level. So, um, great season, guys, and I hope to coach you again next year. >> All right, everybody. >> Baseball pants on. They came from a baseball game.

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Thank you all. Congratulations. >> Congratulations. >> Good job. Matthew won third grade. >> Disregard the law. >> Yeah. 901. Here they come again.

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>> Those land sparks, they're always winning. [laughter] She's like on everything. >> No. All right, the sparks were our fifth and sixth grade girls champions. Uh, I'll announce the names. Each girl come up,

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get their t-shirt, and then we'll bring up the coaches for a few words. Congratulations. Uh, Adriana Voto, Anastasia, Annie Mandel, Antela Rojos,

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Har Pascel, Ava Bader, Emma Dunlap, Jia Blasco, Hayur Hayyurley, [applause] Mike Isa Tahada, and Stella Sebastian, [applause]

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>> head coach Matt Mandel, assistant coach Mike Voto, and Roosevelt Abrams. Coach Mandal, you're up here. [laughter] >> This is what grade. >> Good evening. First, I want to thank my assistant coaches, Mike and Row.

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>> Uh, girls, you guys had an amazing season. Um, the Sparks were made up of 11 players, which is a pretty big team, but they uh came every practice to to learn and to listen. And uh, a few of

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the girls never even played basketball before this year. So, it was pretty amazing to see their transformation. Uh, we didn't start off very quickly. We lost our first game because the girls didn't really know how to play team defense and they didn't realize you had to actually shoot the ball to make a

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basket. But once they learned that shooting was important, we went on to win nine games in a row and won the championship. So you guys should be proud of yourselves that you represent Rosland and you'll always be champs. So

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we had a blast and congratulations. [applause] RIGHT. Push in just a little bit. Push in. Push in. Push in. Push in. All right. Everybody right here with me. Thank you all. CONGRATULATIONS.

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Get out your way before >> and I was going to wear it windy up there too. It wasn't windy up here. It was windy up here, but it rained. >> Yeah, we got a lot of wind. What's this? Next on the agenda, we have the Rosland Police Department members for

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commendations. Uh if members of the department can just stand in front of the deis stand, >> we're going to turn it over to Lieutenant >> Lieutenant Bolard and Lieutenant Longo. Uh they're going to be presenting the accommodations as well being recipients

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of the accommodations. >> Good evening everyone. My name is uh Lieutenant Ray Bolard and I would like to thank the to thank Mayor Spango, the police committee, the town council and director Chaffy for acknowledging the forthcoming award citations for an exceptional job by

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officers of the Roseanne Police Department. I would also like to thank the rank and file of the Rosanne Police Department for the hard work and day-to-day dedication that is ex that is expected and it can times be overlooked. Please allow me to read a short synopsis regarding a burglary theft that occurred

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on February 13, 2026 at the Avalon Bay condominiums located at Six Becker Farm Road, Rosland. On February 13, 2026, at approximately 8:30 a.m., Rosland patrol officers responded to the Avalon Bay condominiums on a report of burglary. Upon arrival,

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officers discovered force entry to the property maintenance office. It was later found that approximately $10,000 of worth of high-end tools, several brand new air conditioning units, Bobcat, Bobcat skid steer, an enclosed utility trailer containing a

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Polaris ATV were stolen from the parking garage. Detective Sergeant Haidider Gibbons, Detective Ally responded, process evidence, and investigate the crime. Video surveillance revealed two unknown male suspects wearing face coverings and gloves entering the

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premises earlier that morning. on the same date. The suspects were later observed leaving the area with the stolen Bobcat and trailer. During the course of the investigation, the Rosan Police Detective Bureau identified an individual, Alexander Roa Sierra, 28

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years old, a male out of New Brunswick, selling items online, selling items online that were consistent with the stolen items. On February 17th, 2026, detectives conducted a control undercover purchase involving three air conditioner units.

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Upon meeting with the seller, detectives confirmed that the units were stolen. The suspect, Alexander Rosier, was placed under arrest and charged with receiving stolen property. The Rosland Detective Bureau continued its ongoing investigation into recent burglaries and thefts and successfully identified a

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business located in Orange, New Jersey, where stolen items were suspected to be stored on a search warrant of the business was obtained and approved on February 25th, 2026. The warrant was executed by Detective Sergeant Haidider, Detective Gibbons,

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and Detective Ally. Joining the search warrant for operational support was Lieutenant Lango, Sergeant Gutierrez, Officer Lupo, detectives from the Orange and Montville Police Department, and myself. During the search, detectives recovered

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stolen items linked to burglary at the Rosland Avalon Bay. Additionally, two stolen motorcycles were located and had been reported stolen from Monville, Avalon Bay on February 11th, 2026. So this was a multi-jurisdictional theft burglary ring.

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After reining the accused, additional charges were generated for Mr. Sierra, including burglary, theft, possession of burglary tools, criminal mischief, trafficking, stolen property. Mr. Rose Sierra was subsequently remanded to S County Correctional Facility pending a court appearance.

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So I'd like to hand out the citations now in order. And make no mistake about it, the next three officers uh were the engine to the investigation. [clears throat] >> Detective Sergeant Jason Haidider. [applause]

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>> [applause] >> Detective Michael Gibbons, [applause] DETECTIVE MARK ALLOW >> [applause] >> OH, WHEN WE'RE DONE. >> THANK YOU. >> Unless you'd like one now. >> Okay. Thank you. >> My counterpart, Lieutenant Michael

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Longa. HERE'S [applause] one for myself that's not that important right now. Sergeant Martin GURAS [applause] >> and Officer Franchesco Lubau.

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>> [applause] >> Now we'll get a picture. [laughter] >> Everyone just slide left, please. That's right. >> Thank you all. Congratulations. >> CONGRATULATIONS. Thank you for everything. >> Thank you everyone.

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>> Congratulations to the police department on a job well done. Thank you, Lieutenants. >> Thank you very much. >> Next, we have our mothers of the year. Each year um grades one through three I

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believe and four through six uh students submit an essay uh to be reviewed uh by uh a board and the uh the board looks at the essays without knowing the kids' name or the parents names. They score them and those those award awardwinning

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essays become mothers of the year for grades one through three and grades four through six. So first we're going to do grades one through three. Lee Conbury. [applause] >> I remember that. So, I'm going to read the essay uh the

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essay that Eva wrote about her mom. Okay. My mother deserves the mother of the year award because she is caring, nice, she helps out. She makes me and my sister feel safe and she's really and has nice cooking and art, too. She has a

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good job, keeps us healthy. She buys us a lot. She she helps me seal cookies. She's respectful even though she's a stepmom to my big sister. She's nice and every year for my birthday, she takes me to New York and we go to the American Girl doll store. The lucky thing is that's

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right by her work building. The is right by her work building is the American dream wall. She goes on work trips and gets us stuff. She's Karan and Japanese. She loves me and my sister so much. And I'm so so so so so lucky to have a mom that is the best

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caring mom ever. I love my mom. by Eva Conbury. [applause] >> I just want to thank my daughter, Eva. She's great at everything and I don't know what else I could say. I was just so surprised that she wrote this essay.

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I had no idea. [laughter] So, thank you. >> CONGRATULATIONS. [applause] TAKE IT UP AGAIN. Thank you. [applause] >> Congratulations. [clears throat] >> The next one's easy for me because uh

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this is the fourth through sixth grade submission. Um, and she's a regular at our meetings. And I think she's gonna read the essay she wrote about her mom and bring her family up. Emily the bear scarer. Schroeder. [laughter] >> Come on. Come on.

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>> Thank god she doesn't have. >> My mom Jennifer Sher should be Rosen. She's giving hand signals. [laughter] >> My mom, Jennifer Schroeder, should be Roseland's 2026 Mother of the Year because she is the best mom you could ever have. My mom is so kind, nice,

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beautiful, and generous. In January 2025, my mother had her second neck surgery and spent a total of five days in the hospital. But she is all better now. She makes sure my sister, brother, and I stay safe and comfortable. My mom always makes sure we have great

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birthdays and great decorations during the holiday. My mom, she also has our back. She also Oh my god. She always has our back in any situation we are in. She always helps us with our homework, make sure we have dinner before sports, and

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drive us all around town. Also, my mom tutors kids in town, helping them with math and reading. and she is also a substitute teacher at noer school. In addition, my mom also works at a a high school with kid with

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kids who are struggling with mental health issues. My mom helps these kids with classwork so one day they can hopefully go back to school full-time. This is why my mother Jennifer Schroeder should be mother of the year.

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You You don't do anything. [laughter] It's okay. >> Thank you. [applause] Like I said, we're going to I'm going a little bit out of order and I did this on purpose based on Emily's

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essay. Have a lot of proclamations. So, I also want to recognize May as mental health awareness month. Um, the burough of Roseland is recognizing that mental health is essential to everyone's overall health. Mental mental illness is a real and prevalent in our nation and half of us will have me mental health

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diagnosis at some point in our lives. Each school, business, government, agency, healthcare provider, organization, and citizen have a responsibility to promote mental health and well-being for all as does Mrs. Schroeder. Therefore, the mayor and council of the Burough of Rosland proclaim May 2026 as mental health awareness month. We also call upon

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citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses, and schools in the burrow of Rosland to recommmit our community to increasing awareness and understanding of mental health, the steps our citizens can take to protect their mental health and the need for appropriate and accessible services for all people with mental

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health illness. Thank you. [applause] Okay. Next we have our honorary mayor of [clears throat] who Nissa could come up with her parents. >> So we're going to go over in front. I have to move and hold.

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>> Do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution. of the United States >> of the United States >> and the state of New Jersey. >> And I do >> I do

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>> further solemnly swear >> that I will faithfully >> impartially >> and justly perform >> all the duties >> all the duties >> of the office >> of honorary mayor >> of the mayor.

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>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> [applause] >> THAT'S CUTE. >> It's official. >> She was posing for the picture. She want to make sure they got the [laughter] picture. She knows him. >> All right. She knows. >> She knows. Get that picture.

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[applause] >> Thank you. Congratulations. >> Congratulations. >> Congrats. [applause] Michelle. >> I know. I'm going to go right off. >> Everything freaks me out every time. >> Right off the cliff. >> This is traumatic.

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>> Oh my god. Maybe they usually do. You know what? Oh, >> I'll follow. It's a good idea. >> Can I say something to the moms? >> Absolutely. Go ahead. >> Okay. Mom, both moms, I want to congratulate you on being mother of the

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year. 30 years ago, I was mother of the year when my son was in third grade. He was 10. So, I still have my sash, but I know every year I'd like to congratulate you. Um, you received a plaque. I only received a certificate, but that's [laughter] nice. I always say I'm going

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to go holler at my Kitty, but but that's okay. But it's it is really a nice honor and um to have the children, you know, your child read it is really uh you know, a great great time. So, congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Enjoy. Congratulations to the mother of

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the year, honorary mayor, and all the teams. Anybody else from the council >> comments? Um, next, uh, before we go into public comment, I'm going to bring up, uh, Dan Svante from Essis County Parks. >> I swear myself in.

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>> Yes, >> your real name. >> Evening. I ring greetings on behalf of our county executive Joe D. Uh I do have some announcements this week for the rest of the month, actually for June. Starting on June 6, the county will have its shredding day which will take place from 8:30 to 12:00 noon. That's at 99

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West Bradford in Cedar Grove for the residents of Essis County. In addition, on the same weekend, June 6th and 7th, we'll have our open house at the Riker Hill Art Park from 11 to 5:00 pm. On Saturday and Sunday, our annual fishing derby contest starts tomorrow in

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Irvington Park. We'll be in Verona Park on the 28th. Uh we will be in Rover Cleveland on June 4th. So, we encourage all the children up to 15 to participate uh in the programs. In addition, we have our information for our senior citizens

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jured art show. Uh, which I'll leave all these flyers with you, mayor, and can distribute them accordingly and hopefully we can get them on your cable show. Any questions, Jimmy? I know you want I contact daily, but there's anything you need, just give me a call.

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>> Thanks, Dan. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Good. Good. Okay, next on our agenda is our first round of public comment. Any member of the public wishing to be heard, come forward, state your name and address for the record. If you're with us via Zoom, use the raise your hand icon. If you're with us telephonically, press star 9. If

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you're elder for Daniel's Law, please just announce your name and not your address. >> Good evening. Um, please. >> Good evening. My name is Laura Morowitz and I am from Verona, New Jersey. Um, and first, thank you for allowing me to

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speak. Um, and I wanted to start by thanking the town for allowing us to exercise our first amendment rights. um on last April 25th at our Ice Out of Roseland protest. It was raining, it was cold, but 150 people showed up. We know

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at least another 150 wanted to show up, but the weather was pretty ferocious. Um I just want to make sure that um everyone keeps this issue at mind. Um Roseland is such a beautiful town uh and it should not be marred. It should not

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have uh ice in its presence. I'm sure that many people or all of the people here know what's been going on the last couple of days um at Delaney Hall. Uh yesterday our senator Andy Kim was pepper-sprayed uh at Delaney Hall and our governor

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Mikey Cheryl was denied entrance into the building yesterday. Um we have to wonder what is going on to disallow uh you know the the most powerful politicians in New Jersey uh access to that place. Um I'll just say outside

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someone asked us what we were protesting and we said we're protesting that there's the presence of ICE 40 lawyers at five Becker Road um through Aresco management. Um I think given what we're seeing in the news um we know that we

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can't really trust what's being said. Um they say that they're not going to bring people there. They say that they're not going to, you know, go beyond their scope. But we see what's going on. We see the the lawlessness. Um, so I just want us to all keep that in mind. Um,

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and do my part to make sure that this is something that, um, you know, that this town really hopefully, um, make sure that all of the children, I was looking at the beautiful children tonight as they got up who look very different from each other. Um, that this should be a

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town where nobody has to be afraid of walking in the streets because of the presence of ice here. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> [applause] >> HELLO, MY NAME IS Jonathan Bellac. I live in Monontlair, New Jersey, and I am sorry for taking up your time today. You have a wonderful town and grateful that

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you have an open process where we can speak. Um, unfortunately, I did feel compelled to speak because uh this ICE office is not simply something that affects Rosland. It's affecting all of your neighbors around New Jersey. I've lived in Montlair for 23 years. My wife

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was born and raised in Montil. Um we're a deeply held New Jersey family. Uh we love it here. We love everything. And uh ICE as an organization uh has been found by courts to be a lawless organization.

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Over 4,000 people detained illegally that courts have ordered released. Over a hundred court orders violated. Um, even in just one month, um, as you just heard at Delaney Hall in Newark yesterday, uh, one of our senators, all

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of our senators was pepper-sprayed by this organization. Our governor, our duly elected governor, was barred entry to a facility within her own state by this federal organization. And uh, this is challenging. I know none of you asked

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for ICE to open an office in Rosland. Five Becker Farm Road is private property. It's not for you to declare that they're not allowed to be there. What I would ask is that you take a stand in the way that Roxberry did. The Roxberry Town Council voted to pass a

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resolution stating their opposition to the potential detention center opening in Roxberry and it let the rest of New Jersey know what they stood for and what they cared about and what was important to them as a community. And my respectful ask to you would be to consider issuing a similar resolution.

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Let all of your neighbors around New Jersey know what Roseland stands for. Unfortunately, because of the confrontational and lawless nature of this organization, we don't have the room we used to have to stay quiet in these situations. Staying quiet and

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saying nothing and not taking a position is taking a position of saying that it is okay and it is something that you think is fine and is not a problem. So, I would respectfully ask you to consider when you go into session to consider writing and issuing and voting on a

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proclamation expressing your concern and opposition to these activities of ICE and that you do not welcome 40 lawyers fighting for illegal detentions and this kind of violence uh in your community. You don't want to be known as Roseand, the community that welcomed ICE. So,

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please do that and thank you very much for giving me a chance to speak. THANK YOU. [applause] UH, my name is Rich Lorenzo. I live in Montville. Thank you very much for hearing me. I'm sorry, my voice is very horse. I'm here tonight about the office space

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in ICE that that ICE is rented at Five Becker Farm Road. ICE has told this town that the space would only be used for attorneys, that there'll be no ICE agents there. I'm here because I have direct firsthand knowledge that these assurances cannot be trusted. And I want

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to tell you exactly why. Yesterday, I was at the Laney Hall. I want to be careful to separate what I witnessed, my own eyes, from what I've been told, so you can weigh each appropriately. Here's what I witnessed. I and a number of other people stood

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together and blocked the transfer of detainees being moved out of state to facilities like Texas and Louisiana. More than 30 ICE agents in an armored vehicle arrived to carry out that transfer. Senator Kim and others planned a

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deescalation. They planned the deescalation. While they were waiting, all we wanted to do is make sure the SUVs rolled down the windows. There were no detainees in there. Everything would have been quiet.

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Didn't even wait. While while that was happening, believing there was a negotiation. We were pepper-sprayed. We were dragged across the pavement. We were shot at with what they call less than lethal rounds. We were dragged and physically brutalized. Senator Kim was

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there and experienced this alongside the rest of us. All of it could have been avoided. The agents claimed the vehicles had no detainees. We asked them to simply confir to let us confirm that. They refused. We've later

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learned the SUVs were empty anyway. The force used against us was not necessary to move anyone because at that moment there was no one in those vehicles to move. I'm telling you this plainly because I

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was there. What ICE says is happening, what is actually happening are not the same thing. I want to be equally honest about the rest because it it matters to me that you can trust me. The following are things I cannot personally verify, but the detainees and their advocates

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have reported consistently. More than four more than 500 people at Delaney Hall are now on the fifth day of a hunger strike and a labor strike. That food contains worms and rotten meat. That women have miscarried without medical care afterwards. That people

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with type 1 diabetes have been denied insulin. and that some detainees are being uh some are who are being asked to be deported. They're asking to be deported are being refused and continue to be held.

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ICE has called this strike a hoax. And yet today, I watched them load those detainees onto vans taken out of state to be punished for a strike they insist

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isn't real. We could not stop it, but I saw it. So when ICE tells this council that Five Becker Farm Road will be lawyers only, no agents, I ask you to remember what I just described.

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Yesterday, ICE told us the vehicles were full. They were empty. ICE asurances are not something this town should take on faith. Senator Kim knows this, too. Here is what I'm asking. Unlike the Laney Hall, Five Becker Farm

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Road is in Rosland. It's your town. It's within your council's legitimate concern. I'm asking you to look hard at this lease and use this property and the use of this property, what was represented at the town about how the space would be used, what the zoning and

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permitting actually allow, and whether anyone is verifying that lawyer's only promise is being kept. I'm asking you not to take ICE at its word and use whatever authority this council has to hold them to what they claimed. Do not

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trust ICE. And in visiting hours at Delaney Hall reinstated, please I ask you to go see the conditions for yourselves. As neighbors and peoples of those whose towns ICE is operating in, once you've

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seen, you'll know what I know. If a restaurant here in Rosland was serving families food with worms in it, none of us would hesitate would want to inspect it and on the record. People are being served that food right now a few towns away. Our neighbors, many of them

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follow following the immigration process lawfully and detained anyway in a facility run for profit by GEO Group with our tax dollars. Detainees earn a $150 a day cooking and cleaning. So Gio

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doesn't have to hire staff. Families who can afford it have to send money to the vending machines so the so the detainees can put money in the vending machines and geo profits from it. And now ICE has moved into Rosland. I know there are

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limits of what the town council can do, but this office is in your town and you have every right to ask hard questions about it. Please don't take ISIS promises on faith. Please, please look. Thank you.

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[applause] >> How you guys doing? >> Kyle Kovat Plymouth Place. Um here to talk about 192 and 194 Eagle Rock. It's been under contract a couple times. Um, deals keep pulling through and whatnot, but I think it's a I I've mentioned this

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before. I think it's really a generational opportunity to look into buying it as a town and turning it into a municipal parking lot. Um, obviously we know there's thousands of new residents moving into our town between the Avalon properties, the property at the old BOPS, you know, fac um, property

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and everything. So the biggest issue I I think for businesses who I speak with, you know, like a coffee shop like Forum coffee shop that's opening all over the place, they would love to come to Roseland, but the biggest issue that they have is, as you can imagine, what? Parking, right? So those properties

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combined right now, they're listed for uh 549 and I believe 450. No, no, uh 500 and 400 now. So a grand total of $900,000. Doesn't mean it's going to go for $900,000. could certainly go for less. Um, admittedly, I have no idea what the

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bonding process is like. Not a clue at all. Um, I do know what municipal uh bonding tax rate uh municipal bond uh yields are right now. They're fairly attractive. It seems like it would be pretty cheap debt to to uh to acquire there. Um, and again, if let's say, you know, the first year, first two years,

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first three years, we're not even breaking even on it. The cost of what it would cost to acquire that municipal parking lot will pay us back in spades with the ratables that I think we will be able to achieve as a town from that. And again, this would attract new businesses. There's I think one, two,

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three, four, five, four or five properties across the street on Eagle Rock that are all owned by the same owner. And I don't think he's just buying them in a row just for the sake of having four four or five properties in a row. I think eventually something's going to go there. the other property on the corner of Courtland and Eagle uh

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Courtland and Eagle Rock right now it might have and I don't know this for a fact but my guess is it probably has like 30% occupancy. I can't imagine that building is not going to change o turn over you know somewhat soon. So I think it's worth looking into. I don't know if it's been looked into yet but it really

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in my opinion is a generational opportunity. Where else can you think in Essex County where you can buy that much land for that cheap of a price in the central business district? I think it's worth considering because as you guys know, what's the number one thing every single buyer when they're purchasing

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real estate right now is looking for every survey? What do they want? >> Walkability. So, you can't be able to walk to anything if there's nothing to walk to. Number one, and number two, people who live in Picar and people live on, you know, fourth a who live in Home Hill, they're not going to be walking necessarily to the center of town. But

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the people who are all moving into the center of town in the Avalon properties on Becker Farm Road on Harrison, they could all walk there. So, um I would just suggest you know if if it's possible to look into that, look into what the economics are behind that and ultimately I think it will be something

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that will pay us back and will provide a return on investment. Thank you guys. >> Thank you. [clears throat] >> Hello, my name is Steve Saparo. I grew up in this town of Ruters Court. I've talked to this council before. I want to thank the mayor, the council, especially

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the police department for their help on the demonstration that we had about ICE uh back in April on the 25th. It was a rainy day. It was a little chaotic and the police were really awesome. I want to thank you all um for the help that you've given.

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I was going to say a few things, but I was really struck by those kids. I looked at I looked at the faces of those kids, the name of those kids, the diversity of those kids, and it really made me happy that this was the town that I grew up in. ICE is an unamerican

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institution that has shown itself to be a lawless institution and not in the keeping of what this town is, what it represents, and what I learned when I was on the junior council in 197

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whatever way back when. Um, we teach certain values. We I learned certain values at West Essex High School and down at Noer High School that are inconsistent with what is happening now. I I I agree with Jonathan. I I would

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love to see this council consense that they're against the presence of ICE in this town because of the lawlessness and the fact you can't trust what they tell you. What they say, what they do are two different things. and I'm afraid that

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they're going to bring a violent nature to this town that this town doesn't deserve. Again, I want to thank the mayor, the council, and especially the Roseland Police Department for their help and and protecting our First Amendment rights. This is the second or

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third time we've been here. We will be back. We are keeping an eye on it ourselves. And again, we appreciate everything that you've done. Thank you. [applause] ANY [clears throat] other member [snorts] of the public wish

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to be heard? >> Hello, I'm uh James Bennett. I'm from North Caldwell here also to speak about ICE being here. Uh, I'm just, you know, I'm not going to, they everybody made a lot of really good points that I'm not going to rehash, but I just want to I'm just kind of struck by, you know, this

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meeting started off with the pledge of allegiance. They talked about uh, you know, liberty and justice. We know that ICE is not doing justice. You had a child swear to the constitution. >> Uh, you guys all took an oath to the constitution when you got on this council, right? So, you you have an

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obligation to make sure that what's going on with ICE is constitutional. And that extends to the lawyers especially because every legal thing that ICE does those lawyers are defending. So please consider that resolution and the oversight that was asked for. Thank

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you. [applause] >> Good evening and thank you for the opportunity to speak. My name is Christine Jacobson and I'm a resident of Nutley and I just like to know like how do you want Roseand to be remembered and will you be on the right side of

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history? I think you really need to think about what this looks like to your children and the future of your town and I just hope that you make the right decision and I will be keeping an eye on this and we'll probably be back. Thank

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you. [applause] HI. UM, I'm Chiller Rosa and I was out on the corner. I came all the way from Woodland Park. Um, I had family that lived in Roseland years ago, my uncle and my aunt and their children. My

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daughter lives in Verona. I grew up in Verona. Um, as she was as he was just saying, I'm not going to go into what is going on at Delaney Hall and other concentration camps in this country,

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okay? Because I had a friend friend's friend that was there at Delaney Hall yesterday and she's late 60s, early 70s. She was thrown to the ground and she had to go to the

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hospital. Is this what Roslin wants to be um familiar with? Those lawyers are going to defend uh they're not going to defend the Constitution. And I heard you mayor read

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to that young woman. I'm a retired teacher to that young girl the Constitution of the United States due process and following democracy and every day in that Delaney Hall that

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is not going on. Worms in their meals. They can't even go to the bathroom. Children, there was an 18-year-old girl that's trying to graduate from high school. She cannot. rapes, uh, miscarriages, they are not attending

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to their medical needs. And then I have to see my senator, excuse me, I'm hot. My senator, a good man who has a family, young kids, went down there. He's a good man and he's a

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great senator. Okay, I was in politics years ago. And then he's pepper-sprayed for doing what? For doing what? He tried to appease the ICE agents and he tried to appease

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those families are down there. There is a pregnant woman five months pregnant. That's her husband, Martin. And you know what? If I was on my own in this country and I had my husband in jail because of what? He's not a

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criminal. 75% of those people are not criminals. And this administration is not following the Constitution. It's a disgrace. I am 75 years old and every day I see my country falling apart.

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Falling apart. And I have voted on both sides of the parties. And you all know that he is not following the Constitution. And what did the director Mike Mullen

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say? It's a hoax. It's a photo op. How dare he? How dare he? How dare he say that? every day the lies coming out of this administration. Those people are not criminals. You have Gain

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Maxwell down in a prison with getting everything. A sex trafficker. A sex trafficker. Does Mike Mullen say anything about her? And then you are going to have a building in your town that I thought

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that Rosland is one of the better towns in Essex County. 40 lawyers defending this administration, defending this administration that is treating those people worse than we treat our cats and

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dogs better. WE TREAT CATTLE BETTER. 40 lawyers defending ICE agents. They executed two American citizens. Where are those three ICE agents? Where are they? under a protection witness program.

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Where are they? This is an authoritarian country right now. And if you can't see it, if you if you agree with pedophilia and genocide and what's going on in this

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country, there is no hope. It is gone. I have nothing else to say. But those lawyers, you're defending a building that's defending what I just spoke about. You see, I'm upset because I love this country. I wasn't

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there yesterday, but like I said, what I saw my senator who's fighting for these people. That's all I can say because you're too far gone. If you if if pedophilia and genocide and racists doesn't get it,

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then there's no hope. There's no hope for this country. No hope. >> My name is Dancy Mock. Um, I'm resand since 1988. Um, and I'm not good at public speaking, so I'm just going to

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read what I written down. Um, I don't I I didn't really know what this was going to be about, so I just wrote down some questions. Um, and I they're rhetorical. I don't expect answers. Um, is there a concern for illegal

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immigrants in Roseand? Is there a concern for illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes in Roseand? Will the Rose police be required to assist them in any way? the ICE um

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whoever is in the ice building which I believe will be the lawyers. Um do we know what the exact function of the ICE people will be in Roseland? Um I thought at one point I had heard they were strictly going to be lawyers. Um is

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there any chance that there will be actual agents such as we have seen in other cities? Um, if so, my concern is the effect of the sight of such agents dressed in military gear and armed on our citizens and especially our

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children. Um, and will Roseland have any oversight over these activities? >> Any other member of the public wish to be heard? >> Anyone with us via Oh, sure. >> I'll be the minority. >> Hi everybody. My name is Alex Vainrock.

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I live in Rosen. I'm actually an immigrant and I actually have families that been to real concentration camps. Um, here's my opinion on this. I think Rosen is a town that's known for lawyers and all of those office parks are

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starting to lose leases and are operating at very low occupancies. So, we should do everything we can to bring more lawyers into Rosland so that people that actually live in Rosland can pay less taxes because they support our

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schools, our police, our salaries. Now, if it's a detention center, we shouldn't have that. But if there's more lawyers coming to Rosland, we should do everything we can to bring as many lawyers as possible. Whether it's federal lawyers, state lawyers, ICE, uh

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lawyers, any kind of lawyers, this town should have more lawyers, and we should get more occupancy in the office parks in order to maintain our tax base. Let me I'm in real estate and I do lease ups and sales. A lot of these builders are

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some of our clients. What's going to happen is that you have 600 new apartments coming to this town. This town has 6,000 people. Where you going to get 10% population growth? We don't have office. We don't have like economic

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engine growth here. This is a small town. You're going to have to start cutting rent so low that you're going to get everybody. And this is not going to be Rosen anymore. So keep those office parks as much as possible and get less people, less multif family

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development because this is going to kill our town. It's going to kill our schools. It's you're going to have to hire more teachers. You're going to have to build the school more. There's no money for that. So try to keep those office parks. If you get a good quality lease for 40 lawyers, lawyers we're

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talking about, not detention centers because I'm a liberal. Lawyers try to bring as many of them as possible. >> All right. >> Any other member of the public wish to be heard? >> Anybody? No one via Zoom Hill or by

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phone. >> Thank you. Next on the agenda is an appointment to the safe walking and cycling advisory committee for Robert Sudall. Robert Sudall, excuse me. Do we have a motion? >> So move second. Uh, Trillo Bar. All in favor? >> I

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>> opposed hearing and seeing none. Next on the agenda is introduction of ordinance 21 2026. Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance only. >> An ordinance to amend chapter 20 of the

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revised general ordinances of the Burrow of Roseand entitled soil and soil movement. >> Is there an intro? Is there [clears throat] a motion to introduce ordinance 21-2026? >> So moved. Second >> Barant Tully. All in favor? >> I >> opposed

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>> hearing and seeing none. >> Ordinance number 21 will be published on the burough's website. Notice of public hearing will be advertised on the burough's website. Public hearing will be held on Tuesday, June 16th, 2026. >> Thank you. Next on the agenda is ordinance 22-2026.

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Mr. Watkins, please read ordinance by title only. an ordinance of the Bureau of Roselland to repeal ordinance number 33-2025 as amended which provided for salaries and compensation to be paid to non-union employees of the Bureau of Rosand and substitute therefore salaries and

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compensation for the year 2026. >> Is there a motion to introduce ordinance 22-2026? >> So move second. >> You move. >> So move. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? I I

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>> opposed >> hearing and seeing none. >> Ordinance number 22-2026 will be published on the burough's website. Notice of public hearing will be advertised on the bureau's website. Public hearing will be held on Tuesday, June 16th, 2026. >> Thank you, Mr. Watkins. Next on the

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agenda is introduction of ordinance 23-2026. Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> An ordinance of the Burough of Rosand establishing salaries for the mayor and council of the Burough of Rosland. Is there a motion to introduce ordinance 23-2026? >> So moved.

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>> Second. Parate Barty. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Hearing seeing none. >> Ordinance number 23-2026 will be published on the burough's website. The notice of public hearing will be advertised on the bureau's website. Public hearing will be held on

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Tuesday, June 16th, 2026. >> Thank you, M. Mr. Watkins. Next is introduction of ordinance 24-2026. Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> An ordinance amending various sections of chapter 2 of the revised general ordinances of the bureau of Rosland entitled administration

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article 4 entitled departments established. >> Is there a motion to introduce ordinance 24-2026? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Trillo Parate. All in favor? >> Opposed? Hearing and seeing none.

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Ordinance number 24-2026 will be published on the bureau's website. Notice of public hearing will be advertised on the bureau's website. Public hearing will be held on Tuesday, June 16th, 2026. >> Thank you, Mr. Watkins. Next, we have a public hearing on ordinance 16-2026.

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Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> An ordinance amending chapter 7 entitled traffic section 7-20 entitled stop intersections. Is there a motion to open the public hearing on ordinance 16-2026? >> So moved. >> Second.

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>> Bar parott. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Hearing and seeing none. Does anyone wish to be heard on ordinance 16-2026 hearing? Seeing none, I have a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved.

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>> Second. >> Sharter, I think. All in favor? I >> opposed. hearing. Seeing none, Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> An ordinance amending, [clears throat] excuse me, an ordinance amending chapter 7 entitled traffic section 7-20 entitled

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stop intersections. >> Do we have a motion to adopt ordinance 16-2026? >> So move. >> Second. >> Parate Bar. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Watkins. >> Mr. Bardy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bront. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Parate. >> Yes. >> Mr. Schroeder.

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>> Yes. >> Mrs. Tolley? >> Yes. >> Mr. Trillo. >> Yes. >> Ordinance number 16-20220 16-2026 will be posted on the bureau's website as a past ordinance and shall take take effect as provided by law.

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>> Thank you, M. Watkins. Next, we have a public hearing on ordinance 17-2026. Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> [clears throat] >> An ordinance amending chapter two of the revised general ordinances of the bureau of Rosland entitled administration article three entitled administrative

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organization. We have a motion to open the public hearing on ordinance 17-2026. >> So move >> second. >> Parate all in favor. >> Opposed hearing seeing none. Does anyone wish to be heard on ordinance 17-2026?

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Hearing and seeing none. I have a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. Parate Bardy. Mr. Watkins. Oh, sorry. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Hearing seeing none, Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only. >> An ordinance amending chapter two of the

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revised general ordinances of the Bureau of Roseland entitled administration article three entitled administrative organization. >> We have a motion to adopt ordinance 17-2026. >> So moved. Second >> trillo parotty. Roll call vote please.

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Mr. Watkins. >> Mr. Bardy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bryant. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Par. Mrs. Prody. >> Yes. >> Mr. Schroeder. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tolley. >> Yes. >> Mr. Trillo. >> Yes. >> Ordinance 17-2026

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will be posted on the bureau's website as a past ordinance. Shall take effect as provided by law. >> Thank you, Mr. Watkins. Next, we have a public hearing on ordinance 20-2026. Mr. Watkins, please review the >> Could you just please announce that the public hearing on uh

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>> ordinance 18 has be been rescheduled. Planning board didn't get a chance to review that ordinance yet. >> July 20th, I think. >> No. So, ordinance 18-2026. Uh the public hearing has been

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rescheduled for June 16th, 2026 at 7 p.m. in the public meeting room at 19 hours. Thank you. >> Sorry, I skipped. >> Excuse me, mayor. They're not they're not having it the 16th because some of their lawyers are away, right, John?

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>> They're meeting the 15th. >> No, no, that's my birthday. >> No, the meeting the meeting for the meeting, they change it to July. They're not ready. >> The two the two lawyers, >> right? I spoke to the chairman of the planning board today. He said he intends to have a meeting on the 15th. If the

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meeting is changed, we will move the 16th. Right now they're keeping it. >> He said to keep this on. If they move the 15th, >> we'll move it past. >> Okay. Just wanted to let you know. >> Next on the agenda is public hearing

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ordinance 20-2026. Mr. Watkins, please read by title. So, >> bond ordinance reappropriating $145,478 proceeds of obligations not needed for their original purpose and providing a supplemental appropriation of $130,000

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for the acquisition of water tanks in and by the Burrow of Rosland, excuse me, [clears throat] in and by the Bureau of Roselland and the county of Essex, New Jersey, and authorizing the issuance of $130,000 bonds or notes of the bureau to finance the cost thereof. We have a motion to

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open the public hearing on ordinance 20-2026. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Marty Schroeder. All in favor? >> Opposed? >> Hearing and seeing none. Does anyone wish to be heard on ordinance 20-2026

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hearing and seeing none, we have a mo may we have a motion to close the public hearing? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Baron Schroeder. All in favor? I I opposed >> hearing and seeing none. Mr. Watkins, please read the ordinance by title only.

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bond ordinance reappropriating $145,478 proceeds of obligations not needed for their original purpose and providing a supplemental appropriation of $130,000 for the acquisition of water tanks in and by the bureau of Roseland in the county of Essex, New Jersey and

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authorizing the issuance of $130,000 in bonds or notes of the bureau to finance the cost thereof. We have a motion to adopt ordinance 20-2026. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Baroni. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Watkins.

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>> Mr. Bardy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Bunt. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Parade. >> Yes. >> Mr. Schroeder. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Tolley. >> Yes. >> Mr. Trillo. >> Yes. >> Ordinance number 20-2026 will be posted on the burough's website as a past ordinance shall take effect as

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provided by law. >> Thank you, Mr. Watkins. Next on the agenda, we have approval of bills. Resolution 173-2026. Everyone received the bill list. There's no questions, concerns, recusals, or comments. We'll take a motion to approve the bill list.

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>> So moved. >> Second. >> By Trillo. All in favor? >> I opposed. Hearing and seeing none, we have resolutions 1 through 17 by agenda item by resolution number 174-2026

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through 190-2026. Questions, concerns, comments, or recusals from these resolutions as I'd like to move them in their entirety. There are none. Can we have a motion to approve? >> So moved.

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>> Second. Parate Corant. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Hearing and seeing none. >> Uh we have one more resolution uh under mayor's report. Uh it's a resolution in support of a Senate bill that is going to provide paid cancer screening by the

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state of New Jersey for our volunteer firefighters. It has a sister bill or congruent bill in the assembly. Uh, I'd like to have this resolution up for approval from this governing body to provide that service for our volunteer firefighters.

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>> Absolutely. >> Can we have a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Parate Schroeder. All in favor? >> I opposed >> hearing. Seeing none. Uh, mayor's report. Uh, only thing I have is we have there our picnic coming up on June 6th.

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Um, we have a number of walkout games which I'm sure Councilman Trill will go into, but June 6th we have our community picnic at no cost to the residents. It's a great afternoon on Sat the first Saturday in June. Uh believe the picnic starts at 12. Uh it's one of our better attended events. Look forward to seeing

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everyone as we come together after this spring/winter winter, whatever we called it, so people can get out and enjoy themselves. Um besides that, I have nothing. Finance and administration. Council Bor. >> Thank you, Mayor. I just one announcement uh from our communications team. And Roseland TV is now on Comcast

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uh changing from channel 35 to channel 964 and it'll be in HD HD. So if you want to watch the council meetings or any of the other programming, it'll be available on Comcast as well as Verizon and on YouTube as well. >> Council, did that start today or

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>> started today? >> It's going to be on YouTube. >> Actually, I think it was last week. I said >> I told somebody 35. Oh well, it's on TV too. >> Yeah, >> they will not be able to do YouTube. YouTube. >> Oh, not YouTube TV. Okay. >> You're not on YouTube TV. >> It's not. >> Can we get on there?

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>> Council, [laughter] >> uh, like you mentioned, uh, Mayor Jimmy, um, June 6th will be our, uh, crowning event for spring sports in Spring and Rosland, uh, leading off to the summer. So, we have the mayor's trophy game, there's a softball, uh, walkout game and

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a baseball walkout game that's been organized by a a great family in town, the Woodies, who've done fantastic work for the recck department getting that together. Um, so June 6th will be a great day all around up here at the Harrison complex. Uh, otherwise looking forward to the end of the baseball

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season and uh, forward to summer. That's all I have. >> Thank you. Uh, Councilman Schroeder. >> Nothing additional, Mr. Mayor. Councilman [snorts] Brown. >> Uh, good evening. Um, on my way in today, I noticed a couple of Rosland kids riding ebikes in town. Um just a

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reminder to everybody that um state of New Jersey passed those new ebike laws um for permitting permits for >> July 19th. >> Exactly. So it goes into effect in July. Um so I know our police department is actually posted on social media reminding residents about the the new

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laws that go into effect as well. Um so I just uh thought I'd mention that. Um, the Safe Walking and Cycling Committee is meeting this Thursday across the street, 7:00 p.m. Um, May 12th, uh, the burrow received bids for the Fullerton Bridge finally. Um, and construction

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will hopefully be starting this summer. Um, I think it should be adopted at the next meeting. We should have everything accepted. So, >> it's a long time coming. The bridge >> behind uh, bon bridge. >> It's like it's like the bridge over the river. The bridge over the river quai.

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>> That's that's all I have. sooner than that. >> Take that one, >> Councilwoman Par. >> Um, thank you, mayor. I just I know that the officers left, but I want to congratulate Detective Sergeant Haidider, Sergeant Gutierrez, Detective Gibbons, Detective Oi, and Officer Lup

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for receiving their accommodations tonight um for their outstanding work connected to that theft um at the Avalon. Detective Haidider, Gibbons, and Owie demonstrated exceptional dedication and professionalism and ski investigative

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skill throughout the course of this investigation. Their tireless efforts and commitments were instrumental in bringing this case to a successful resolution. These officers should all be highly commended for their exemplary exemplary work, ethic,

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collaboration, and dedication to this department and the community that they serve. I am extremely proud of their accomplishments and I'm grateful to have individuals of this caliber representing our agency and I just want to say thank you to them again because it was it took

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them time and they they got it done. They got it done. Um also I want to let everyone know that our and thank OEM coordinator John Matias. I'm happy to report that all our pedestrian

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signs are now up. Um, the project is complete. They are now at Harrison Avenue and Burough Hall, Eagle Rock Avenue, and Freeman Street. I want to thank Superintendent Critchette for all his help. And Brian from DPW. He did an

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excellent job on the installations. So, they're all up running and working. And thank you, OEM coordinator, Matias. I appreciate it. Um, the fire department. I want to recognize them as well. They were one of 12 fire departments that

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took part in helping to control the fire in Belleville a few weeks ago. And I'm happy to report that all our men came home safe and sound. They also did a trench training at the Docker property last week. I didn't stop I couldn't stop

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by the training, but I was at the firehouse when they were actually building the the mechanisms and the walls that they would use to rescue somebody who was in a trench if the if the dirt um collapsed over them. So, you know, even though they're volunteers,

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they are constantly out there. They're training. They're ready for just about everything. And I just wanted to take a minute to recognize them as well. And that's all I have >> also for the trench. Thank Tom O'Burn who came and dug the trench for us. >> Oh, yes. He was on the back hoe. I forgot to mention that. Thank you, Tom.

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Yes, I I forgot that he dug the trench. >> Anything else? >> No, that's it. >> Councilman Tolley, >> thank you. I would like to thank Girl Scout troop number 2013. We have one of the um members here

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today, Emily Schroeder. They helped the beautifification committee on Friday. This past Friday, we were down at the um five cement big planters down at Fernwood and there were about I guess about 12 girls from the from the troop

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and they helped us plant flowers um and dig out all the old junk and greenery that was in them. So, we were very glad and happy that they were there. This will help them earn another badge. So, I want to thank them again. And you'll see the flowers growing right now. They're a

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little low, but they will be coming up and growing a little bit higher. You will be able to see them as you ride on. And also, we know our food bank is um suffering a little bit. So, on Saturday, June 13th at the West Cadwell Shopight,

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the Rosland Junior Women's Club will be setting up at the two entrances from 900 a.m. till 1:00 p.m. And we will be collecting non-p perishable food items. So, if anybody's shopping that that Saturday, um, please come by. We'll have

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a little list of some of the items that are needed. And once again, that's Saturday, June 13th at our West Codwell Shopright. Thank you. >> And that is it. >> Any other council member have anything to add to committee reports? >> If there are none, we'll move on to our

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approval of minutes. We'll put the April 14th council meeting minutes on for approval. Everyone received the minutes. There's no questions, concerns. We don't have any recusals on this. Take a motion to approve. [clears throat] >> So move. >> Second. >> Parate Trillo. All in favor?

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>> I >> I posted hearing. Seeing none. Next we have the April 21st executive session minutes with Councilman Trillo recusing himself. Do we have a motion for the April 21st executive session minutes? >> So moved. >> Second. >> By Bront. All in favor?

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>> I opposed. Hearing and seeing none. >> Next we have our second round of public comment. Any member of the public wish to be heard, come forward, state your name, and address for the record. If you're with us via Zoom, use the raise your hand icon. If you're with us telephonically, press star 9. So, just to talk about counciloman's uh

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pedestrian signs. Um, I really have to thank uh Coun um, Superintendent Critchette for helping to get this project done. Ryan put a lot of effort into, like you said, doing putting them together. Um, I'd also since our beautiful area back here now is all

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done. We have a lot more pedestrian and parents and baby carriages doing crossings and coming to these signs. You're only going to work if you push the button. [laughter] We need to get that message out that I see people and kids crossing all the

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time without pushing the button. And also I'd like to make sure they understand when they push that button doesn't mean they can run across the street. They need definitely to take the time make sure traffic is stopped. >> If I'm trying to figure out a way of getting the message out to all our

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children. I thought maybe Councilwoman Friday if you could talk to the police department and see maybe if they could go down her school and maybe go classroom to classroom for five minutes and tell >> uh the children in there how to use them. So they are really effective because it's a it's active. It's a lot

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active. I stand around and watch the some children come up. I seen it the other day. They must have been coming from credential from the pond. They came up. They stood there without pushing the button and then they ran across. We'll also have Ryan something in the newsletter. >> Does it say something? I mean, they read.

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>> It does say push. >> There are directions there. >> It even beeps. >> You know what? Stop by. Take a look. [laughter] Chance. >> I know. >> I'll speak to Lieutenant Bard as well and see if he can keep going. >> When they blink, can they be white or something? They are white.

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>> It's another town and they it just blends in with the yellow with the sign. >> That's the color that's uh that the county requires they to be. >> Well, Mont, they're different. They're very visible when they blink. >> I'm happy to blink at all. So, uh, >> okay. Because >> And that's it. Thank you.

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>> Thank you, Captain. >> I'll speak to Captain Bullard. >> Well, not yet. >> I don't think you're there. >> Any other member of the public wish to be heard? >> Who am I? >> Hearing seeing none, the only thing left is a motion for adjournment. >> Motion to adjurnn.

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>> Second. >> Ch. All in favor? I >> opposed. Hearing seeing none.