I was going to text you. The whole Right. supposed to be. >> How are you? between Yeah, this room is full over there. Please stand for the pledge of >> allegiance. To the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Adequate notice of this meeting of the township council of the township of was given as required by the open public
meeting act as follows. On December 31st, 2025, notice was emailed the facts to the daily record, the Northstar ledger. The West Marer published in the daily record. Notice also remain posted throughout the bullet board the main hallway of the municipal building.
>> Would you come up please? >> I'm going to turn this way. >> All right. Good evening everybody. In an unvently of a situation of an emergency, I do want you to know where the exits are. Please remember the exit you came in and go out to the hallway. If if you
go here, you turn make right and your first left will take you out to a staircase out on the side of the building. For people in the courtroom, you can come in the way you came and go out the way or you can go the remote exit. We'll take you uh through a little passageway out to the hallway. You can go down past the men's room or come back
this way. Um we also have people in the other room. I'm sure they're going to speak tonight. Um, when we get to that point, we will also assist with bringing other people over after you, some of you have spoken to swap them out. So, all right. Thank you. Thank you.
>> Councilwoman, I'm here. >> Councilman Carrie >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley >> here. >> Councilman D. Philippo >> here. >> Councilman Hall >> here. Councilman Rick >> here. >> Mayor Pato. >> Good evening everyone and welcome. As a
reminder at last week's meeting, our mayor said he would not be able to attend tonight's meeting. I am Deputy Mayor Mark Crowley. Before we begin tonight, I would like to ask our township manager, Mr. Murphy, report on an incident that occurred earlier today. Murphy. Thank
you, sir. Earlier today, we became aware of a federal law enforcement operation that originated outside of Roxberry Township and subsequently concluded within our jurisdiction. The incident, which apparently involved a discharge of a firearm, is currently
under active investigation by the New Jersey Office of the Attorney General. We have been directed to preserve the integrity of the investigation. We have been instructed to direct all inquiries to the Mars County Prosecutor's Office. We appreciate the
public's patience and cooperation as the investigation continues. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Murphy. Please keep us informed. We'll now provide you with an update on the situation concerning the proposed detention facility. The mayor,
the township council, township manager have met and have multiple discussions with the current property owners of 1879 through 46. During these meetings, the township has made its opposition to a federal detention facility unequivocally clear.
property owner has advised that the site continues to be actively marketed and that at this time there's no proposal or contract in place with any federal agencies. The mayor and the council also maintained ongoing communication with
our state and federal representatives. Most recently, we met with our officials from the 24th legislative district, including Senator Space, Assemblywoman Fantasia, and Assemblyman Mike Ganort, where we expressed our opposition to
this facility in Rochester supported by the factbased analysis and documented concerns. In addition, the township has continued its efforts to engage directly with the Department of Homeland Security. However, to date, no direct communication has been received in
response. We have also been informed that the owner has employed a private security firm to protect our assets. Again, the owner has advised that the site contin to be actively marketed and at this time there's no proposal or contract in place
with any federal agency. Roxbury Township continues to explore every available avenue in its opposition to a federal detention facility within our borders. This includes the mayor's February first request to the township attorney to review the feasibility of a
potential moratorum and to assess the township's legal position such action be considered. At this time I will ask council attorney Mr. Buco please review his findings regarding the potential of
a moratorium on New Jersey state law. >> Thank you Mr. Mayor, um I had an opportunity to read several mayor memos that the council and the mayor have received uh over the course of the last week. One of which suggested that the
town should consider imposing a moratorum uh on development of this type. Under New Jersey state law, specifically 40 55D-90, moratoriums are strictly limited here in
the state of New Jersey. Uh under this statute, you cannot impose a moratorum unless you Unless you have a written opinion by a qualified health professional that a clear imminent
danger to the health of the inhabitants of the municipality exists and then even if you were able to get that it can be no longer than six months. And I can tell you I even went so far as to read some of the cases where municipalities
have uh attempted to impose moratoriums and I can tell you that the courts do not favorably on these and in most of the cases uh have found that the municipality had overstepped its bounds
by trying to impose a moratorum. In my opinion, a moratorum would not fit the criteria of the statute and would not s would not be able to sustain scrutiny by a court if challenged. Uh in addition to that, there's been some uh there's been
some questions as to whether or not we could make detention facility uh a nonpermitted use in Roxberry. Adopting such an ordinance would have no impact
if the federal government decided to purchase this warehouse and develop it as a detention facility. Right now in Roxburg, our zoning ordinances do not permit these types of facilities in any zone.
So our ordinances already clearly prohibit their use. So it would be it's not necessary to do it again uh in this fashion. Uh we I continue along with attorneys in my office to
review this situation as it develops and we continue to look for ways in which if it does uh come to be that a contract gets entered into that uh that we can go forward to make sure uh that the public
health, safety and welfare of of everyone is protected. And um and right now we that includes looking at the available infrastructure that would be needed to service one of these facilities. So, I have been
exploring all avenues. The township has directed me to continue to review every possible alternative and I will continue to do that until one uh the property is taken off the market or sold or rented
to somebody else or we have to jump into action to do what we need to do to try to protect the public health, safety and welfare of everyone involved. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Last
I'd like to also thank Mel and Mington for their supporting resolutions already done there is working out there. Moving on. Four presentations, awards. There's none. Approval of minutes.
February 3rd, 2026. I'll second. >> Any discussion? >> Roll call, please. >> Councilwoman, >> yes. >> Councilman Kerry, >> yes. >> Council, >> yes. >> Councilman Hall, >> yes. >> Councilman Riley, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley,
>> yes. Next is our public portion and I ask we have done in the past please keep the first public portion just for our town business. We are having a second public portion of fact we're going to have another one for an ordinance just for an ordinance but there will be a
second public portion. Is there anyone in the public who like to speak on the town of business? Seeing none, I'll close that public. Ma'am, I already closed it. You can wait till the second public representatives council committees
start >> please. Somebody define township business so we're clear what it will be. >> In the past we have discussed the things that we're going through in our agenda as the council business and the budget has been on the budget items.
>> Mr. Hall just general. >> That's correct. >> Okay. So, um, the only thing I have to report on for tonight is regards to next week. Obviously, we're trying to build a new Imagination Station in Roxburg
Township. The old one is reaching. So, we will public hearing on this next Tuesday at 6 p.m. 6 p.m. on this item. I want to thank the school system. I
want to people that participated in the solicitation that we sent out. We got over 700 responses and that just goes to show how much Imagination Station is.
So that's a good thing forward. The whole purpose of this meeting is to fulfill an application for a grand opportunity that will be that opportunity will be for additional
funding for this facility in the fact that there's so many people in the audience. I'm keep >> Thank you. I don't really have much to say today other than um on our We have a little tab for FedMore and I was wondering if we could put a tab up for
any information we have that we know. Not that we know much about the ice situation. >> Honestly, there isn't much but >> thank you and that's all I have. >> Thank you. Uh in light of agenda. I'm going to hold
off. We have several meetings set up over the next few weeks. I think tonight just two quick things. Um the next board of education meeting will be on February the 23rd and Councilman Deo and myself
had attended the water and sewer meeting on Friday and u we have gone over portions of well the budget and um the progress on well two which uh it's doing
very well actually 60% complete I And that was about it. Thank you. >> Thank you, council. I just have two really things. We lost two of our very good volunteers in our town in the past few
weeks. Carol who worked for social services during co one came in sorted all who kept social services going. And we also lost Jim Kogan. Jim Kogan was a businessman in town was also on open
probably 12 years. We'll miss both of them. >> Number eight, matters. Request refer. There's none. Introduction of proposed ordinances. There is none. Number 10, hearing and adoption of
ordinance. Second reading 0226 an ordinance to amend and supplement chapter 7 traffic of the revised general ordinances of the township of Roxberry County of Morris state of New Jersey and establishing a no parking zone certain towers on Avenue and Morris Street.
>> All in favor? We're not open to the public just for comments on this one or still going to be another public portion shortly. Anyone would like to speak on this or state your name and address.
Terrence Flint. You'll probably get a petition full of signatures in the next couple days from the proprietor of Roosters and Customers protesting what they see as the bullying of a small business. You might hear the argument that my
neighbors and I are making a big deal out of what they feel is a minor inconvenience for us. I'm going to admit that my motives for being here asking for this ordinance to be passed again are selfish and they're
not. They're selfish in the regards that I'm concerned if a fire truck or ambulance needs to make it to my home, it won't be able to do so. that it's going to have to do what the garbage truck does every Tuesday
for I don't even know how long. Go into Rooers and ask people to move their cars. >> It's not selfish because I share this concern for all of my neighbors and the people in my neighborhood.
All of us. The neighbors came and we talked um I believe they met with the township manager and the chief of police. That's why we had this ordinance. >> Pulled up on I appreciate that.
Uh, what I'd like you to consider when you're hearing people that might have signed this petition or when you receive this petition and see all of the signatures, I'd like you to consider what you would do in my situation with
my concerns. My son was able to play on the street with his friends. He can't do that anymore, not safely. So, I'd like you to consider that because the people that are going to tell you that we're bullying the small business.
>> Well, first of all, we we sided with you. >> No, I'm I understand. >> You're going to hear it's based on what our police department said, what the resident said, what we saw on site. It's that simple. We don't This council
doesn't overreact. >> So, we go. So, you're not gonna see me backing down from >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. It was good. It was good to see you, sir. Thank you for recognizing I went out there. I know the police chief has worked tirelessly with with
all the residents. I don't know how many residents are here. U but I will tell you just for purposes of uh legalities. If this passes tonight, we have to wait I think 20 days from the certification, right?
>> 20 days after the date of publication of the adoption. >> So give me give me 30 days before you see the signs out there, but our police are out there, you know, the temporary signs are up or when the fulltime signs day hits, our public works will be out
there putting the permanent signs up. We're business. >> I don't have a vote. >> We're business friendly and we like to be that way and we have to support for that. But there has to be a balance and what's happening that you brought to our attention wasn't balance.
>> We want to see your son play basketball. >> You have a good evening. >> Good evening, mayor and council members. I'm Louisa. I am co-owner of Roosters. And sir, you're
Oh, he stepped out. Okay. We also want to see something basketball. We want the safety of the neighborhood and we prioritize all of those things. That's why we are more than willing to work with everybody that needs our support. We are also a part of this community. This is not just a business for us. I
grew up here. I went to high school here. My sister did too. My parents have been living here 20 plus years. Okay. We also prioritize um and fully understand and support the township's goal of prioritizing safety.
100% there should be emergency vehicles able to pass the street. 100% we agree with that. Um we are not opposed to no parking signage in general and we appreciate the council's attention to neighborhood concerns. The one request that I'm I'm here to make is very
specific um and that is to limit the signs on the side of race that's adjacent to roosters. That still leaves sufficient space for emergency vehicles to pass through if you guys agree and that would still also
help us fit at least two or three more cars. To us that is not just a business. If you guys have ever had the chance to walk in, this is a space where the community comes together. We have groups of mothers that come and come with their babies and escape their daily routines
to come enjoy a cup of coffee with us. groups of kids with disabilities that come and practice life skills like paying for products or picking out something from the menu and having conversations outside of their circle. Their teachers come with us and they
also enjoy a cup a cup of coffee on us. We're not here to only make money. We're here to be a part of this community and provide a safe space for everybody to come enjoy as well. And we've also done our fair share to support the community. So we're not out here trying to
basketball games away from kids or take the safety away from our neighbors. Those are our neighbors, too. This is also my community. So, I agree. We need to control that situation a little better, a lot better. I agree. We didn't expect this business to be as successful
as it is to be honest. Um, but if you guys could consider maybe giving us a little bit of space on Rigs Avenue and maybe not block off both sides, that's all we ask. We feel that this would be a good middle point for
everybody to get what they need. Okay. Um >> still I'm prepared to move forward. I think this is something that we worked out with the neighborhood. I have no problem revisiting it to see if there's some This is new building. Is this a new idea
that she's bringing up or have you already considered it? Uh I'll have to get with the uh police chief and see the width of the street if there was cars just on
uh the rooster side of that street. Um you know I would say you have an agenda item here if that's something we could look at in the future but you have an agenda item here. I could I could always be directed
to go back and change I suggest we continue. >> We have also explored all other options to get surrounding businesses to let us use their spaces, rent them out and everything. We have no options. We are very limited on space. We we tried
everything we could. So, it's not like we're trying we're turning a blind eye to it. Ask JJ if we pass this ordinance tonight just to look at that come back just tell us >> I think there were other issues too that
I want to get into >> thank you for your time >> guys it's me again my family owned a business >> your name and address >> Jason do five rigs my owned a business for 52 years. We never opened up a a spot that didn't have enough parking.
You know why? It's illegal. It's dangerous. We didn't open up a dance studio in a basement and allow 30 cars on the streets. Why? Common sense, right? I don't want to hear about alternate side parking.
There's not enough room on the street. I've already hit someone. What's it going to take for me to hit a kid? probably, >> right? There's other reasons. How many of you have security clearances here? Don't answer that. It's rhetorical.
You're not the only people who serve. I can't have people sitting in front of my house for 5 hours with their laptops open siphoning internet from roosters. Are you kidding me? I have to declare that. Hint,
please. Common sense. >> Thank you for your comments. Anyone else in the public? >> Public session. Second. All in >> favor. Can I have a motion to approve?
>> Any discussion? Council >> Norbert. >> Yes. >> Councilman Kerry. >> Yes. >> Councilman. >> Yes. >> Councilman Hall. >> Yes. >> Council Riley. >> Yes. >> Dr. Mley. >> Yes. >> Number 11. Introduction. Adoption of
resolutions. 2638 to 395. One comment I would like to make is on 02639. Again, um it's great that the Morris County
Nutrition Center is going to be housed at Avenue. That lease allows nutrition for our seniors. Something that's very close by, very well used. And I want to thank the county again Thanks to JJ for putting on 264
plan for you folks that are all out there over the last few years we had that little thing that ashore thing going on in town. So the whole idea, >> yes. >> Council Hall, >> yes. >> Council Riley, >> yes.
>> Dr. Mayor Crowley, >> yes. Number 12, personnel changes. There's none. 13 communications February 6. No comments. Brings us up to our second public
portion. If anyone would like to issue, please come forward. State your name and address. >> Good evening. My name is Susanna Oliveri. I'm a taxpaying resident of Lenning, New Jersey, and I live on King Road. As of today, February 10th, 2026,
US Congressman Tom Kaine, the elected representative for our US Congressional District, has remained silent regarding the abhorentt racist video posted to Donald Trump's social media account on Friday, February 6th. The White House has confirmed the authenticity of this
post, which was subsequently deleted. When asked for comment, Trump's press secretary, Caroline Levit, stated, "Please stop the fake outrage and report on something today that actually matters to the American public." I am here to unequivocally state that the reaction to
this post is not fake outrage. This racist content matters deeply to the American public and to the residents of this township. While many congressmen and senators from both Democratic and Republican parties have publicly condemned its post and message,
Congressman Kaine has yet to do so. Therefore, I am asking for two specific actions tonight. Number one, public condem condemnation. I ask that the Roxberry Town Council as the elected body representing this township formally condemn the racist content of the
February 6 post. Secondly, formal con correspondence. I ask that this council write a formal letter to Congressman Tom Kaine on behalf of this council and its citizens urging him to break his silence and publicly condemn this racist
activity. Public officials have a responsibility to lead by example. I look forward to seeing Roxberry Town Council take a stand on this matter and formally communicate this request to Tom Kaine. Thank you. >> Thank you. Your silence speaks volumes.
>> Good evening. I'm Corey Herbig. I'm from Pariffany. I stood before you a few weeks ago and said that I understand that we're all working off of different information and I shared some of the information that I've been seeing. The information coming out of Roxberry today is deeply troubling. We know that at least one person was taken by ICE, but
there's also information abound that someone here was shot. I don't even know what to believe anymore. We're at the point in time where you'd have to be willfully burying your head in the sand not to see what's happening. Is there really any wonder that people don't know what to believe anymore when the realities we're seeing before our eyes
are so unreal? Every day we see more and more stories of horrific abuses. From immigrants and children being held for months in deplorable conditions at facilities just like the one being proposed here to a woman being raped repeatedly by a detention officer so that he would allow her to see her child to peaceful protesters and legal
observers being dragged from their cars of pepper-sprayed at point blank range in the face and tear gasing being done on children on a bike ride. Last week, I saw a story of a mom with a one-month-old sick baby who was on her way to the to the doctor when ICE detained them both and put them in detention without allowing her to seek
medical care for her baby. There's so much more, but I know I only have three minutes. I'm so damn tired of watching our elected leaders from both parties fail to lead. And I'm tired of hearing impassion speeches and reading strongly worded letters and seeing hollow resolutions passed when this moment
requires action. Did you know that there are hundreds of people in Morris County right now organizing so that if what's happening in m Minnesota comes here, we're ready. People are helping neighbors who are scared to come out. People are intentionally supporting businesses in communities where ICE has
already been present and business has dropped off. People are offering neighbors kids rides to school if they need it. People are grocery shopping and doing laundry for their neighbors who are scared to come out. Every one of those hundreds of people is taking concrete action in a moment when morality demands it. Can you say the
same? I'm tired of watching ordinary everyday citizens be braver than people we all elected to lead us from federal to local. And I implore you to be brave with us. I promise you will stand with you if you are. Years from now when my kids ask me what I did back in 2026 when
fascism came to our town, I'll be able to list off a litany of actions that I took to keep our neighbors safe and fight back. Will you be able to say the same? What will your legacy be? Will it be that you failed to see the urgency of the situation before it was too late and stood idly by while your neighbors were
taken? Or will your legacy be that you met the moment and took every possible action to stop it in its tracks before it was too late? The choice is yours. Personally, I'd rather stand with the brave, ordinary, everyday citizens who have the moral fortitude to take action when democracy, morality, and justice
demand it. That's a tough one to follow. My name is Ailen Barry for Brown Street. I'm a third generation Roxberry resident. I'm the granddaughter of Ruby and Don Aragott who built their home here in 1950 after living above Kendall
Power Mower, the local business that my grandfather ran for most of his life. He probably sold one of you a mower. Um, I lived here except for when I went to the University of Delaware and studied history and psychology. I married an out
oftowner who fell in love with this town and saw my love of this town and said, "Let's find a house here." We are raising three sons here. I still love it here. I am deeply disturbed by what is happening in our country. And one day when all of this hits the history books,
I want to be able to look my sons in the eyes and say, "Your mom tried to help." I am a proud SPAN emailer. I wish your mayor was here tonight. I have a deep regard for human rights. On one hand, I am proud of all of you
for for voting no. On the other hand, I am absolutely appalled at the inaction. I understand you've read cases. I'm still not hearing what we will do and what you promise to do, only what we can't do. Uh, if any of you believe ICE is
bringing law and order and justice to this country, I beg of you to fact check, to read on credible sources, to question the rhetoric. The current administration has spread fear and us versus them mentality. We've seen this before.
The country saw slavery. The country saw rebellion against the British. The country's fought to end totalitarianism in Europe and save innocent Jews and others. This country saw the civil rights movement. We came out on the right side of history. Let me be clear.
If you are openly or quietly welcoming a facility or staying silent at this pivotal time, you are on the wrong side of history. Immigrants are not criminals. Statistics from the Institute on Tax and Economic Policy show
undocumented immigrants pay more taxes than the top 1% tax income of our country. >> Data from the National Institute of Justice show immigrants, documented and undocumented, commit less crimes than native foreign Americans. Please feel
free to fact check me. By coming here, they committed a misdemeanor, not a felony. Don't get me started on felonies. Our constitution establishes due process for all. Our pledge that we took tonight asks for liberty and justice for all.
ICE facilities are not legal. They are political jails with uninhabitable conditions. More and more stories are making it to the press about a lack of access to legal counsel, medicine, heat, basic needs, but no shortage of bullying and intimidation. Yes, we need reform,
but fairly and by rule of law. ICE is not reform. ISIS part of a disturbing pattern of political control. They're a bonus army bribed with mob mentality. They are people who cover their faces. Officers of the law have name tags and
no mask. And I respect you here tonight. >> I want >> I want to believe that you will take action. >> Thank you very much. Hi, my name is David Brderick. I'm from Rockaway Township. Uh, and uh, I'm a
retired attorney and uh, I actually was a member of the Booten uh, Township, sorry, the Booten Town uh, planning board many years ago when Mr. Buo's father was our mayor. So, uh, I followed the uh, the Buo family over the years.
Very distinguished family. Um, and I've got two points to make here. Uh the first is uh Mr. Buo you did start your discussion by indicating you thought that the moratorum antimmoratorium provisions of municipal land use law would prevent a moratorum designed
specifically towards detention facilities. Um with your permission I'd like to share some case law uh that uh that I have found and uh I also did a deep dive and I'm just going to read you one quote from an appellet division uh
decision. It is well settled that municipalities have power to enact a reasonable moratorum on certain land uses. That's what we're talking about here. While studying a problem and preparing permanent regulations. So I I don't think it's black and white. Uh I
think a moratorium on particular uh uses would survive scrutiny under section 90. The other point I have is I think something that's some good news here. Um, I did a deep dive into the property records of the facility at 1879 uh Route
46. Uh, I don't know if people are aware, but the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection holds a uh wildlife uh protection easement on the property. Uh, uh, I don't know if everyone's aware of that. Uh, it basically requires the forested
land to remain forested and open to animals. Uh, all well and good. Uh but the important point is before there is any transfer of that property there must be one month notice given to the New Jersey D.
And given that there has been a breakdown or complete lack of communication from DHS uh as to when or if uh such a sale ever will occur. Uh, I think this will give the town as well as its citizens the ability to at least
find out a month in advance whether or not such a sale is going to occur. And again, with your permission, Mr. Bua, I'd like to give you a copy of that. I'd like to see the case. >> Okay. This is actual easement which is recorded at the Morris County Clerk's Office. So,
>> okay. If you could bring that up to >> Hi, my name is Jean Marie Amler and I live in Mount Taver, New Jersey. Um, I'm just going to read something to you and I want you to seriously think about your options when it comes to having a
detention center or ICE in this area. Terrible things are happening outside. More helpless people are being dragged out of their homes. Families are being torn apart. Men, women, children, they're all being separated. Children
come home from school to find their parents have disappeared. That is from Anne Frank, 1943. The other thing I'd like to say is um if if they're willing to shoot someone
in public in front of cameras and then lie about it, can you begin to imagine what they're doing to the immigrants behind closed doors? I want you to think about that very carefully before when you make your decision.
about ICE coming here. Thank you. >> Without using my time, I have a problem with the fact that as I stood up and put my hand up before that I was coming up here, I was told to go sit down. Bonnie Rosenthal, Randolph. This council
spoke up openly and publicly at the time of the murder of Charlie Kirk. Now, over the past weeks and months, many individuals have been shot, injured, and too many killed at the hands of ICE. Yes, Renee Nicole Good and Alex Prey, but so many others not named. Children
have been snatched thereafter becoming quite ill within detention facilities. This is my third time that I have requested that the mayor or any of you as council members make a statement such as the Roxbury Town Council agrees with
US laws regarding immigration being fairly, humanely, and safely enforced. We do not stand with what ICE and Border Patrol are currently doing in regard to their treatment of human beings, including US citizens. Murder, kidnapping, breaking into homes are only
a few of such examples. Will you make a state such a statement this evening on record because I know you respond to people who are up here. Will you make a statement this evening? I'm going to take that as a no. My secondary question is why
when can I expect the council and Mr. Buo, you're also a senator and at a certain point in time you're you will be up for reelection and all. So even they're not making the statement. I would appreciate as would
many people in this area. >> Other questions be addressed to myself. >> I just want to say just one thing there. Sorry. >> As I sit up here as an attorney for a municipal corporation. I can't speak for them. When I step down
from here, I'm a senator and I am more than willing to stand by the statements that I've made outside of this chamber. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Walker Avenue Center. Um I'm going to take a little different approach here. I'm not going to really talk about the
ice center specifically. I'm going to talk about the council. Um this is the current perspective from many of the residents. Assessments are into pending. Tax increases expected due to poor financial management because the bubble is about to pop on us. The health officer is
saying they need more staff. The police department is overworked and needs more officers. There's a possible prison coming to town which will very much lower our home values and add stress to those same responders who are already overworked and overstressed. So residents are looking at increased
property taxes, lower home values, and all of the issues that come with the prison in town. Who exactly would want to buy a home in Roxbury? No one. They could go to a neighboring town where the town council isn't all looking
down as people are speaking. I saw two of you that were actually paying attention. Mrs. Albert, Mr. D. Philippo. The rest of you are looking down reading. Sorry, M. Murphy as well. The rest of you are looking down and reading rather than paying attention to what people are saying until they actually
call you out on it. On top of that, the smirks and the insinuation that the emails people are sending are spam. You are elected by us. >> You asked for a job, you got it. Do it.
And if you don't want to do it, then quit. >> Because you answering our emails is your job right now. This is our town. This is our fight. And you are supposed to be helping us do that fight. and you're not doing it. We have an attorney. We have
the council. And yet we have residents telling you how to fight it. And it's appalling how all of you are responding to this. >> Good evening. My name is Serena. I'm from Molive. I'm currently a student at Ruckers University. I'm here to concerns
about the proposed conversion of the warehouse facility into an immer immigration detention center in Roxbury. This area is identified as an overburdened community on the state's environmental justice mapping tool. Because of that designation, it falls
directly under New Jerseys environmental justice law that was passed in 2020. Under that law, any major facility proposed in or affecting an overburdening community has to go through enhanced environmental and public health review. The applicant has
to show that the project will create disproportionate environmental or health stressors and facilities like detention centers inherently introduce these stressors. It'll introduce constant diesel transport traffic, increased waste disposal demands, added strain on
water and sewage systems, and additional pressure on emergency services. Police coverage, EMS response, and fire services all become part of the operational footprint of a facility like this. So from an environmental justice
standpoint alone, this proposal proposal requires a much deeper level of review before it can move forward. And right now it's not clear that the level of review has been completed or satisfied. From there, zoning becomes another major issue. The site being discussed is
currently designated for industrial warehouse use. A detention facility operates as a correctional or carceral facil residential use which is fundamentally different. function and impact. Moving a project like this forward would require reszoning or major
use variances, and that process exists to evaluate compatibility and long-term impact on the surrounding community. This is a significant land use change with real implications, not a new warehouse. Uh, I want to end on this. The people of
Roxbury and Morris County do not deserve to live in fear or constant threat to their health and safety. This facility would compromise the being of every single member of the community. There is no reason Roxbury should be opening the door to private detention facilities
that violently and unlawfully scam our neighbors, family members, and members of our community. That is not the role of the local government, and it's not the something the residents have asked for. Thank you for your time. >> My name is Chris Tro. I'm also from
Mount Olive and I am an organizer with Climate Revolution Action Network. Uh you know why I'm here. Um you all say that you oppose uh this proposal. Maybe you do. I don't really know. Um but your township attorney uh Senate uh
Republican Minority Leader Anthony Buco um I don't know. Um it looks like uh he stated in the past that it is actually New Jersey's responsibility to strengthen trust with the federal government. That's not how this works. Not when our neighbors are being
kidnapped and gunned down in the streets. Um, we do not need weak leadership that will simply roll over and allow the federal government to further trample the Constitution each and every day, even inviting the federal government, as it does so into our own
backyards in the name of supposed deescalation. Senator BO doesn't want us recording ICE. He doesn't want us interfering with these mass Nazi thugs, uh, who he so lovingly refers to as law enforcement.
What an insult. Uh, he wants us to blanketly accept the coming out of the DHS in the aftermath of these murders. If ICE gunned down that man in Hopakhong, which I was originally going to talk about, I know they brandished a weapon in Hopkong just this morning.
Maybe that's the same incident as the the the shots fired in Roxberry. Might be two separate ones. Um, if that were to happen, your own township attorney would not have an eye. He has advocated for uh not introducing the immigrant the immigrant trust acts, the elements that
Governor Murphy pocket vetoed this previous legislative session. Um you all say you oppose this, but I I'm not sure that he agrees. And if it comes down to litigation or a variance request, um I think I think this township is in big
trouble, right? I think that we clearly cannot trust him to serve impartially as his oath demands. Um, and if if this council actually opposes this concentration camp like you say you do, uh, get your together. And maybe what that looks like is excusing our
township attorney from further participating in this matter. Thank you. >> Good evening. Bri, 64 St. Mary's Drive in Sakazan. Um, I'm here again tonight just to uh express my complete descent
to this uh facility, which I've said for the past two weeks, but I want to give you a little bit of a picture into my evening tonight. Knowing that I was going to come here, um, my husband right now is currently at mandatory training to volunteer as a firefighter for the town. So, I was like, "Okay, I have my children. I'll just bring them with me.
This is a great a great opportunity for them to see um civics and see advocacy and action." But after the alleged events of this morning that happened in our town, I couldn't bring myself to bring my kids here. And that is a little
glimpse into what could potentially be happening in our town, what all parents in our town could be considering if this will go through. So knowing that and and and if you have kids, if you have grandkids in our town, knowing that, I
really again implore you as a Roxberry resident and as a Roxberry mom to do everything that you can. Thank you. >> Hi, good evening. My name is Erin McGawan Sassimon. As Senator Bugo, you know my father-in-law well. Um, I have lived in Roxberry for 15 years at 16
Kenville Avenue in Sakasana. My two children attend our township public schools and like many residents, I care deeply about the safety, stability, and long-term well-being of our community. I'm here tonight regarding the propo proposed sale of the warehouse on 46 for use as a federal detention facility. The
first concerns I am here to give voice to tonight are practical, local, and rooted in this in how this decision would affect daily life in Roxberry. Infrastructure and traffic considerations. Route 46 is already a heavily tra traveled corridor with frequent congestion, commercial traffic
and safety challenges. Less we forget this area as well as surrounding towns and alternate routes was unbearable just one year ago when dealing with sinkholes. A detention facility would bring regular transport vehicles, staff traffic, service deliveries, and potentially emergency response activity,
all of which would likely require costly upgrades and enhancements to policing. Secondly, public safety and emergency demands. Facilities of this type require coordination with local law enforcement, fire departments, and medical services. Roxberry's emergency responders, many of whom are volunteer, already serve a full
community. What additional burden would this place on staffing, response times, and municipal resources who would bear these costs? Third, we must consider community character and surrounding land use. Room 46 is not an isolated industrial zone. It is part of the everyday fabric of Roxberry near
businesses, families, and schools. Decisions about major institutional facilities should reflect long-term planning, zoning intent, and the vision residents have for their town's future development. I'm not here to argue national policy. I'm here as a Roxberry resident asking that any decision about
this property be made with full consideration of the long-term interests of our town. I'm asking you respectfully and directly not to move forward with the sale of this warehouse for use as a detention facility. Once this property is sold and repurposed, the impact on Roxberry cannot easily be undone. To
have this town associated with a facility that would be denying due process, a fundamental right afforded under the fifth amendment is certainly not something to aspire to. Please preserve the character and future of our town by keeping this facility out of Roxberry. Thank you for your time and
careful consideration. >> Good evening. My name is Elliot Ruga. I'm the policy director for the New Jersey Highlands Coalition. I have a copy of a January 16th, 2026 memo from your municipal engineer commenting on the
water and wastewater needs of such a facility that may be proposed uh as a detention facility. Um he based his information on published information and looked at a 500 to500
beds facility. That a 1500 at the maximum he looked at a 1500 bed facility would require uh would generate 187,500 gallons per day. And he discusses the limitations that that is virtually
impossible to provide for because the pipes come from netcon. All those pipes are undized. Um there is very limited capacity at the muskinet uh uh treatment plant that it's almost impossible to
provide uh waste water to uh proposed developments that they serve. But um if we look at Delaney Hall in Newark which has a capacity of,00 prisoners
this facility is four times the size. >> It's not a um 1500 bed facility. It's four it could be four times larger than that. And that brings if you look at DP's chart of wastewater flows to
approximate from different types of facilities they don't show a prison but under institutions they show a per bed 125 g um uh gallons of waste water. Um that brings us to 750,000
gallons per day at this facility would generate and just about as much water would need to be supplied. There isn't water. There is not wastewater capacity. Now I know being in the federal government they may be able to overstep
or ignore municipal or state regulations. Not sure about that. But our water quality management plan and the gypsy permit systems are all responsive to the federal uh clean water act. So they are in fact their own
federal regulations. So just logistically this is impossible. Thank you. >> Hi. My name is Michelle Lerner. I live in Manali. I've lived there for 20 years. I want to say three things. One
as an attorney, one as a Jew, and one as a neighbor. As an attorney, you can tell a lot about what a client wants by an attorney's response and what a memo is about. Attorneys are required to provide
zealous advocacy for their clients. There is a way to do this. Other towns have done this. The report that was provided to us was an answer to a very specific question about a moratorum. It's clear that the question was not
asked find a way for us to stop this. When I was a student at Harvard Law School, one of my summer internships, I was at the Massachusetts Law Reform Institute and the executive director asked me to write a memo about something that he was going to ask the state to
do. and he wanted me to write a memo about the feasibility. And I researched it. I did I looked at the case law and I did not think it was feasible. I wrote the memo. I gave it to him. He read it standing in front of me, handed it back
to me and said, "Go back and look. I asked you to find a way to explain why this is feasible. Find a way to find why this is feasible." And I did. And it was feasible. I have never ever not found a way to do
something for a client when they needed it. It is very clear that you did not go to your attorney asking for a way to get this done. As a Jew, my family was killed in the Holocaust. My family was killed in
camps. They were not all put in gas chambers. Some of them died from lack of medical care, overcrowding, lack of food. That's how Anne Frank died also. I was raised being told this could happen here. We all wondered when we
learned about the Holocaust in school what Germans did at the time, what we would have done if we were there as Germans. I find as somebody living in a neighboring town, this is a defining moment of my life. As a neighbor, I'm
disabled. I'm retired from law from disability. I hardly leave my house. If this opens, I will find a way to try to be here every single day with a sign, with my phone videoing, with a bullhorn if I need it, and I will find people to
come with me. >> Hi, my name is Jerry Kramer and I'm from Hopon. And I just want to start by saying that you guys were voted in with the confidence of the people that your reputation would be withheld by your
support of our community, our safety, our well-being, our mental health, the economic growth. Um, I was so proud to raise my kids in this community. Popon and Roxberry always had sports together. I mean, our families,
it takes a village, right? Um, today. This happens in Hakon. Guns in the streets. How would you feel if it was in front of your house and your little kids or your adult kids or you have to witness such
atrocities that's been going on and then have a concentration camp that is so inhumane. I mean, it's all just on you. You can use your power and your influence to
stop this because I know you have the ability to do that. Or your name can go down in history of being associated with such atrocities that the entire world is appalled and protesting against. It's
not just our community. It affects the United States and it's for the future for many generations. So, please have a conscience. Keep us in your heart like we voted you to do.
>> Thank you. >> Catherine Matthew Sacktown. Uh, you know, it's it's very clear the federal government doesn't care about anybody. >> Can you speak up or move that? >> Is that better? >> That's better. Thank you. >> Uh, it's very clear the federal government doesn't care about any
including people of their own party. They don't care about tearing families apart. They don't care who they hurt, who they endanger, who they kill. What are you actually going to do about it? Pass some feel-good resolution. Who does that actually help?
If I don't understand why you're being so passive and it's clear that everyone else here echoes the same sentiment. Oh, it's the federal government. Our hands are tied. Laws are laws. Feel good resolution. do something. People are having their rights stripped away
and people are dying and the federal government doesn't care. You've been elected to represent us and we're saying you need to get off your asses and do something meaningful and productive. This isn't going away. No matter how much you want to bury your heads in the sand, it's up to the states and the
townships to protect themselves. Do something before it's too late because that time is rapidly approaching. Good evening. My name is Lorissa Rebeik. I live in Paripany. You may wonder why many of us keep returning to speak on the topic of an ICE detention facility.
In other words, a concentration camp in Roxbury. You have to admit to the fact that the current cruelty and tactics to demonize minorities from the current administration parallels those of Germany in 1933.
Cruelty to any human should be against all our morals. I will not stand by silently and watch this happen to anyone without speaking out. If a concentration camp is allowed to be opened here, no matter how much the current
administration tries to erase history, people will know that this town is a place of suffering and inhumity exists here. I'm sure that this council doesn't want Roxberry to be known as the infamous town that did not actively
discourage a concentration camp. It would be better to be famous for fighting to keep one out. Picture this, a couple visiting a realtor and a realtor suggests a home in Roxberry or surrounding town or a business that
needs to lease a building. They ask the realtor, "Isn't that the town that has the ICE detention field facility?" Imagine how hard it will be to convince people that it will be okay to live and work in a town with a concentration camp.
Weeks ago when you had a budget meeting, you expressed a desire to increase businesses here in Roxberry. I've heard people state at these meetings that they would avoid shopping here if there was a concentration camp open in Roxberry. This would not be very good for the
local economy. Any money you may gain by opening an ice facility in Roxbury will be a loss for you and lower property taxes and revenue. What will happen to this town's reputation after this administration is gone? Your beloved town's reputation
will forever more be connected to a place of suffering, inhumity, and despair. Do everything in your power to prevent this legacy from being written.
To quote Ellie Visel, a Holocaust survivor and Noble laurate, "There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.
Join us." Human suffering anywhere concerns men and women everywhere. Thank you. Tracy Reed, Allwood Street in Sakasana. Um, I've been a homeowner and taxpayer
here for over 20 years. And my message is simple, really. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. We need to do, as so many others have said, everything that we can to stop this from happening. To say that a moratorum won't work is not enough. an
ordinance could be passed. Um whether or not the feds try to override it or whatever, we'll never know if we don't try. We should be doing every single thing in our power to prevent that from happening, especially when so many
residents are demanding it. Um and in addition to that, you know, the idea that the this the owner, the current owner of the warehouse, um saying that, you know, they haven't been contacted or there, you know, there's no negotiations in process. That's fine, but how much other
warehouse space do we have in our town where they could go next? If ICE wants to come here, they're going to try to find a way. If we don't want them to come here, we damn well better find a way first. Thank you. THREE Highland Avenue, Sakasana. I've
been here 32 years. Uh I've loved this community. I'm a daughter, a granddaughter of an immigrant. Um as I think many people in this room are. Um and my concern is and I have no written script. I'm just here to speak every day
to each of you. You know, we always have jobs where we often are disappointed by leadership. And honestly, I I feel like everything is an excuse that I'm hearing. With all due respect, my concern is is that you all were nominated into these jobs. You were
elected and you need to stand up for this community. The community is willing to support. We have a gentleman from Paripony who is a retired lawyer who's coming up with ideas. It takes a village. These are unprecedented times. I have no doubt in all respect that many
times you're sitting here saying we don't know what to do because this is a first. But you need to figure it out. We're here to help you. >> We're not looking at you to solve every problem. We're looking here to support you. And I mean that truly. You've got a lot of smart people in this community.
You've got professional people, lawyers, you've got accountants, you've got whatever you need in the town. How many people? All we need to do is set up task forces. And you can do it overnight. It's very easy to do. And Mr. Buo, you said you're on this you're on this
board. you're a senator and you don't represent the senator. You're willing to you say you have a stand on this, but you can't stay behind. What I would suggest in that case is you have a meeting tomorrow night or a night that we schedule in the very near future where you entertain the entire town so
the town can actually give you more feedback and we get to hear what your plans are at the federal level to be able to stand because as we know as we know and finish as we know politicians talk but I'm not seeing anything and again we all have
jobs we have to deliver somebody very briefly said, "We need to help our customers. We're your customer. You need to help us and we need to help each other. We are here to support, but we are not here for ignorance and just lack
of leadership." And the other thing is the police department does a great job, great job in communicating to the public. We get updates regularly. You see everything that comes in from the for this community. We don't hear anything
from the town council. So, I appreciate I think earlier you said I was in the overflow room. I think you said you would add to the website updates for this. That's a start. But I would ask that you send out a a a bulletin or what, however you can do it. We get
those god-awwful snow removal. Don't park your cars in the street. We get the we get on our cell phones, our home phones. We have it every which way. I'm sure the town council can do the same thing for us and a weekly update on what's happening because without that
lack without that communication, there's no there's more rumors than anything and nobody knows what's true. We hear rumors about a shooting, everybody's in a panic. We need to get updates, plain and simple. Please help us and set something up. People can volunteer to help you.
all the experts, lawyers. We have a friend already from the giants that's willing to help. Everybody can help, but we need action from you. Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Zoe. I am a Stanhill
resident. I am also a proud graduate of Morris County School of Technology, class of 2014. I did summer swim in Lake Paccom and was jealous of your skills in Roxberry, not
going to lie. Um, I have worked with uh JBWS who supports survivors of domestic violence in Morris County and uh Roxbury citizens and their children. Um, and I'm a member of a congregation
in Morristown. So, um, even though I'm right on the border of this county, I'm very involved and I'm very concerned. Um, I wasn't actually planning on writing anything, but I've taken some notes, so I'll just share from here. Um,
I'd like to thank you for your time, and I do believe you understand all of these points that we're bringing up. Um, but I also know people will continue to come and share them. I think what we need is further transparency.
Um, perhaps uh through a spokesperson. Um, I know that you want our community to be calm and safe and unified. I'm not asking you to flash a middle finger to Trump or your political party.
It doesn't have to be a big thing right now. But there are things that we can do. I'm asking for collaboration with established, respectful organizations who exist and are working really hard on
top of their jobs and lawyers. And I'm just asking that we do everything possible to prepare. Now is no time to be passive. Our neighbors are at risk. Our schools
are at risk. Our officers might be at risk. Who knows? Things are chaotic. And we do. We need to be proactive. There's no more time to waste. And we can get people above us to support us. We've got
your back. Okay? New Jersey has your back. So, let's let's work on this. Okay? So, thank you. Thank you to everyone here. My name is Anna Babitzki. I'm from Hacketstown. I come to Roxbury to shop. My dentist is here. My hairdresser is
nearby. And um we live right now through a very very difficult time. So I'm so proud of this community over here. Guys, you're incredible. What I was thinking about um I was thinking about another small town
in the last few days. a town by the name of Dao in Germany. It was actually an artist artist colony. Uh some great painters lived in that town but nobody knows that town as an artist colony.
They know it as a place where one of the first concentration camps was built in 1933. That concentration camp was in operation from 33 to 1945 until allies actually opened the the gates and everyone saw what was happening there. The mayor said
that he never knew. He never knew. I don't know if that mayor lived that long afterwards. And um people who lived around those walls, they didn't really concern themselves. That was before the internet, before the cell phones. As you can see, this
community is not going to do that. But people live there and uh they believe that the government truly uh looks after them, that they take the worst elements into that facility and they deserve it.
At some point these people start complaining about the smell but even then nobody really voiced their uh opposition because it was not safe for them to voice. We live in different times right now. You can see this
community is going to be standing up. You know that people from Hucketstown I certainly not going to come shop here. I'm not I'm going to change my dentist and I'm going to change my hairdresser. the community will suffer and unfortunately Roxbury already associated
with detention center. Google it. Just Google the town of Roxbury in New Jersey and you're going to see what are the top uh searches returns are going to be there, right? That's a shame. I think you need to do better. I think it's been said very well. I think the few legal
professionals here made a great statements. If someone can go and research on their time, so can the lawyer who makes a living off this board. Thank you very much. >> All right. Good evening. My name is Olivia Dico and I live at 30 Gordon Road
in the lower Berkshire Valley. Um, as a Roxberry resident, I am not here because anyone told me to come and oppose the ice facility. I'm certainly not here because anyone paid me to. I am here because I feel that we have a moral obligation as residents of Roxberry to
oppose this ICE detention center. And let's not call it a detention center. Let's just call it what is what it is. It's a concentration camp, you guys. We're dancing around it. We're using this harmless language for something that is ultimately going to be extremely harmful for families, for women, for children, for men, everyone who came
from a different country wanting a better life here. As I was preparing my remarks tonight, and it seems that I've already gone off script, um, you know, I was thinking a lot about my grandfather. My grandfather fought in World War II in the European
theater. He has a Purple Heart. Um, unfortunately, he has passed. He received a Purple Heart. Um, and I say all that to say because my grandfather was there for the liberation of the concentration camps. He saw it. And though he's not with us any longer, I
couldn't stand idly by while someone is proposing bringing a concentration camp home into the country that I love and that he loved as well. I'm just thinking about what my grandfather, his name was Adrien Nihill, would say today. And he would say honestly to every single one of you,
shame on you for even considering this, for even allowing this conversation to be happening. We should not be building a detention facility in our community where we live, we work, we go to the hairdresser, we go shopping. Who wants this? And I'm asking you
seriously, what is the ultimate purpose of this concentration camp? It's not going to bring any good to our community. And frankly, and if this is allowed to happen, good luck sleeping at night. Good evening, Adam McGovern, 87 St.
John's Avenue in Paripony. Uh, as you can tell, I'm out of town. Um, and um, I, as always, thank you for extending the welcome to many of us. I think that neighborliness is one of the things that we're here about. And, uh, neighborliness goes two ways. You know,
we're happy to be here to stand with the residents of Roxbury to see that this atrocity doesn't go through. And if it doesn't go through, if you don't let it go through, then my over 30% minority town uh is not going to be decimated by thugs ranging through the streets, which
is going to be, as I've said before, an inevitable consequence if uh a place like this is built. It'll be um an intake uh you know, it'll suck uh human beings uh you know, out of the entire top half of the state as uh you know,
the infrastructure is put in place to round people up. Um I was uh encouraged to hear uh at the beginning that you've been definitely in direct contact uh with the property owners. So I think that's key and um I think you should
always just like everybody behind me asking what more can I do? Um you know there's moral pressure that can be brought to bear with these uh property owners. They do have an image to protect. They do you know need a license to conduct business in this town. No
doubt they're going to have other business before this council and I think you can use that leverage and you'll be foolish if you don't. Um the night that we found out where this place is going to be set, you'll unbeknownst to us perhaps unbeknownst to you pass you know the last go-ahad for them uh you know to
do business at this facility. So that really either through inattentiveness or unfortunate coincidence that puts an onus on you uh to put what moral pressure you can on these people that you're doing business with. And um you know the thing with politicians is
sometimes the reassurances you get make you even more nervous. And um you know when the mayor last week was quoted in the in the press as saying that u we keep on going towards the goal which is to oppose this facility. That isn't the goal. The goal is to stop this facility.
The method is to oppose it but you have to be doing more to oppose it. And in that vein Mr. Buco when you say that if a sale goes through you're going to jump into action that's too late. uh we can't jump into action once
he's in process. So I was happy to see you accept the materials from Mr. Godric and I really encourage you in that direction because you see us jumping into action but we can't do it by ourselves. Thanks. >> Hi Lauren Sang Grover Street. Um, I've spoken here before and I've written many
emails and I've called my senators and councilmen and all that, but um, I echo everything that everybody's been saying here tonight and in past weeks. We are adnauseium of what we're talking about. I mean, it's relentless of how much
information we're giving you and how much of a plea we're giving you. But, um, I've lived here for 13 years and I'm raising my family here. and just like many others that are speaking out tonight. Um, but what hasn't been pleaded here to you yet? And that
doesn't make you worried yet or angry. I mean, I I've heard so many stories and people and I'm happy to see you guys looking at us and and engaging with us because in past times it doesn't seem like you were doing that and I and I appreciate that. Um, but what what can
we do to make it harder? Why do we have to wait to be reactive? And I would rather overreact underreact because overreacting means we're prepared and underreacting means he just gets to be ruled by the federal government. So, thank you. >> My name is Paul Breida. I live at Six
Potter Lane in Warden. I want to first express my respect to everyone here before me on the council and to Senator Bro. First of all, respect for accommodating this conversation the way that you have and I know this is my first But I know you've been doing this
now for more than one meeting. So I respect you for the way you're accommodating uh the public. And Senator Buco, I respect you for your public service uh in just in general for many many years. But I also want to express my skepticism. And one of my I am
skeptical that a prominent Republican and uh an ambitious politician in a good way can be can fully serve this body and fully serve this community. Um I don't believe I think there are two things
missing. I think there's urgency missing here and there's courage missing here. The urgency would be when somebody turns to the attorney and says figure this out. Get this done. Get this out. Get us
out from under. Get us out from under this. I'm not getting the impression that that conversation has been had behind closed doors. That is what I mean by urgency. What I mean by courage would be more directed to your attorney and an
ambitious politician. I would remind you that Samuel Adams before he was president, before we counted him as a founding father, Samuel Adams actually defended the British soldiers who fired
on the crowd and killed five Americans in what we know as Boston Massacre. Now, for an attorney to stand up and defend British uh uh the the oppressive force of the British took a lot of courage and
we know it didn't cost him his career. So, I would encourage on your part, Mr. Buco, the courage and I hope the council will have the urgency to light a fire under him and get this fixed.
I just want to address the last gentleman, and this is probably the last thing I'm going to say about how we're approaching this. First and foremost, the township council
has given me full authority to anything I think is necessary to prepare and oppose this facility. That's the first thing. There will not be any mistake about it that this
council is not in favor of this facility coming to Rox. The second thing is somebody talked tonight about infrastructure, right? and about the lack of the ability to sew and water.
That memo didn't just magically appear. That's all part of the process of us gathering information and preparing the work that would need to take place in order to win a case of this
magnitude. But I got news for you. I can't file a case and go down to Marstown because the judge is going to say to me, "Who are you fighting? Nobody's purchased that property.
There's no contract on that property. I don't litigate my cases in me. I don't give my opponents the opportunity to know where I'm coming from. But I can assure you that this is all
being worked on. Nobody is sitting idle waiting by for something to happen. >> And I just want you to know this. >> Let's move on. >> Good evening. Diana May, 30 West East Ledgewood. I've been a Roxbury Town
resident for 15 years. First, I would like to thank you council members. Last week, I requested that you also reach out to the owners of the warehouse and reaffirm that you are against this for whatever reason in our town. And you stated tonight, you did that and I thank
you. I feel heard and I am very happy to hear that there is some forward movement to advocate for us, the residents. Um earlier tonight, our town manager, Mr. Murphy, shared um some details about this morning, and I appreciate that. While I was sitting here tonight, NJ
News put out an article. The title is DHS ICE agent shoots out tires of vehicle attempting to run him over in Roxbury. So, if this did involve a person who originated from Honduras
and there are statements from DHS spokespeople and I wish I could believe them because we've all seen with our own eyes from 20 different camera angles what we see with our own eyes and what
we're told by DHS. So, in the article, it says DHS says that while agents were trying to arrest, I'm not going to say his name, he ran into a law enforcement vehicle and weaponized his vehicle in an attempt to run an officer over.
Officials say the officer shot out the tires of his vehicle to stop the threat. I don't support violence on anyone. We have some disagreement of law enforcement and what that um title who that belongs to. I would not want to see
even DHS or ICE officers in danger, but I don't always believe because I've been gas lit constantly this past year from our own DHS as to what is true. I saw a video earlier today where the gentleman was
not in a car and there was a gun drawn facing him in the street in our area. I don't know what happened before. I don't know what happened after. I was at my job this morning. But
I can't believe what I read just until I see it myself that what DHS is saying is true. So, please help us to not constantly be gas lit. And if this is not true, can you please make sure that
the public knows that our community knows that this is not true? If it is indeed not, we can't be gas lit. I I just can't take it anymore. Thank you. >> Hi. Uh, good evening. My name is Sierra
Wilson. I live in Bud Lake. Um, I'm not going to fight with you all tonight because I do believe that people are good at heart and I do believe what you all say that you're trying your best. I do expect more, but that's that's neither here nor there. I have four questions for you tonight. I hope you
all are either able to answer or just keep it in mind. Number one, have you spoken to neighboring towns, including my own in Bud Lake, regarding strain on water, sewer, and gas? I am a neighbor and do not want my taxes or my water to run out due to this facility and your
lack of actions. Number two, we heard last week that the police officers of Roxbury are given an hour of counseling a year. Will that increase or be extended to residents when the ICE facility comes and we have to witness with our own eyes women and children being murdered, assaulted, and kidnapped
on the street? Number three, will you pass an ordinance banning ICE from Excuse me. Will you pass an ordinance banning ICE from performing business on Roxbury public grounds? This is something that can be done and comes highly recommended by immigrant advocacy groups. And then my final question
tonight, I should be at the Mount Olive Town Council meeting. I am a resident of Mount Olive, but I found out through your friend and my friend William Angus, who you all love so much, that the Mount Olive chief of chief of police tonight announced that they will not work with ICE when ICE uses administrative
warrants in their town. Will you be doing the same? >> Hello everyone. Um, my name is Sharon Medina. Nice to meet you all. My name is um I decided to come >> please. >> I'm sorry. >> Your address? >> My address? Oh, I live in Hopcon
Musketcon uh Avenue. Um I'm new to this area. I'm a New Yorker and I moved here because I thought Hopcon was beautiful. I thought the area was gorgeous and I really enjoy going to the Roxberry Diner. I really enjoyed
this community. So far, it's been a year, but it makes me very upset to hear that a concentration camp is coming, a detention center or whatever you'd like to call it, is coming there because, as you can see in the news, in the media, the folks that are being put in there look like me. They're brown. They look
like me. And it is very hard to hear that and to know that today. The only reason I found out that there was a shooting in Hoback was because of Cat Dad. Where are you serious? >> Yes, because of Cat Dad. I didn't I didn't I I rely on social media. That
made me so scared and so nervous as a brown person to be able to have to come out of my house in my own community. I'm I was born here, but I'm still nervous. It doesn't it does not go by me every every day to to think that, you know, I
could be stopped and I could be attacked and I could be put in one of these things just because of the color of my skin. It is very disturbing to know this. Um, it is very disturbing to be able to not know what's happening even in just, you know, in the news because
I'm sorry, all I read was from Roxbury Township or the police department. I think they said that Landing Street was closed, but there was no other information. It was like I didn't know if it was safe for me to go outside of my house. So, I would love more information when this does happen. A little bit more clarity. I know that
you're subject to like finding the, you know, giving a thorough investigation, but it also we need to know that we're safe to come out of our houses when something like this is happening. But there is not still an active shooting, that the road is not closed, whatever it is. You know, that was very disturbing
to me today and I really really would hope to see some change and it does make me a little bit more hopeful to hear that you're against it. I would just love to really know that it actually comes to fruition that this uh detention center does not come to this community because again I loved where I loved
where I live. I don't want to have to move. Thank you Saladino. Um what happened this morning? What I'm hearing, and correct me if I'm wrong, is there's nothing you can do to predict or prevent these abductions.
Right. Okay. Based off what we saw today, none of you can say with 100% certainty that everybody in this room is safe like tomorrow. He was pointing a gun while people were driving past him while kids were trying to get to school.
That should be your number one priority right now. Genuinely. Um, I'm going to talk about Right now, I'm going to quote the Epstein files. So, massive trigger warning in just a couple moments. Um, misogyny is alive and well. The amended
Save Act proposed by House Republicans could block millions of Americans from voting, largely targeting 69 million married women who change their last name if their legal documents don't match perfectly. Corruption is alive and well. The president is suing the IRS for 10 billion, which would be paid out by our
tax dollars. By the way, the president is suing us. Um, racism is alive and well. The president put Obama's face on apes on the fifth day of Black History Month. Donald Trump did not invite the only black governor, Wes Moore, to the bipartisan governor's dinner. Pedophilia
is alive and well. Three and a half files detailing how the wealthy and powerful eat, rape, torture, abuse, and traffic children and babies. And we're all way too calm about it. By the way, here's some quotes from the emails. New Brazilian just arrived. Sexy and cute. 9
years old. Are you okay? I loved the torture video. There are millions of babies. Very little good vegetable cream cheese. Response: Lol. I don't know if cream cheese and baby are on the same level. Was just reading today that newborns will suck on a pacifier more
vigorously if it triggers playback recording of her mother's voice. Do you remember the name of the gynecologist that you used to send your victims to? The penises are often dipped in soy or hot sauce. For women, eating penises is supposed to be good for the skin.
I'm done quoting now. They've spent decades trying to gaslight the public into believing all these rumors are conspiracies. Um, they've known for decades. Now they're taunting us with the truth. This is what the government does. They lie to us to get what they want. Like they're lying about
undocumented people being a danger to society. It keeps you distracted. It's scapegoatism because you're too busy abusing innocent people to focus on the real perpetrators of harm. Some ICE videos I've seen just in the past week, a video of ICE agents physically assaulting high school students. A video of ICE agent piss whipping a 16-year-old
that was complying with their orders. A video of an ICE agent kicking a puppy so hard it broke the dog's ribs. Video of an ICE agent breaking into a woman's bathroom and telling a woman to pull her pants up. Uh, now you can see a video of an ICE agent waving a gun towards the
people that you work for. Us. You don't care. I think some of you should really consider whether or not you want to finish your term. You're welcome. >> Thank you. >> No problem. >> Hi, my name is Artith Collins. I'm from
New Jersey. I'm a Jersey girl through and through. I love this country and I love Mars County. I echo the statements of all who have spoken tonight. Tonight, I want to first thank the council woman, Councilwoman Alrech.
Thank you for your request to provide a tab on the website regarding the ICE situation. I feel that that is the strongest act of courage that we have seen tonight. Thank you for your care for this community. I wanted to
acknowledge that. Tonight, I will again ask the question I have asked repeatedly of this council. Have any of you visited Delaney Hall again? Maybe you should. I feel like
the only thing left to really ask again if anyone wants to join in which side are you on? Which side are you on? When ice comes to
your neighborhood, neutrals have no home. You're in your neighbors or you're a thug for Christy gnome. Which side are you on? Which side are you on?
Which side are you on? I know what side I'm on. >> We do attorney client privilege. No, >> we're going to go into executive session about after that meeting will not be
taking any more action tonight. Resolution of the Patrick Council of Bron County authorizing conference of council with the public. Whereas it is deemed appropriate council discussion
without public active council. Attorney privilege tax issue shall be counsel. You were such a good