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Little rainy today. >> I know. I had to hump my >> Why is this giving me trouble? >> He was a scientist. >> Freddy. Freddy, Freddy, Freddy, Freddy, Fredd. You heard that? It's like

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the um It's like the Yankee game when they call in from the outfield. Riley, Riley, babe, [laughter] Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby. There you go. There it is.

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So good. >> [clears throat] >> order to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisibley andice for alluses.

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This meeting of the township council of the council of given as required on December 31st daily west of the municipal

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Thank you. Roll call. >> Council Mel >> here. >> Councilman Kerry >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley >> here. >> Councilman D >> Hall >> here. Councilman Riley >> here. >> Mayor >> here. Presentation awards accepted.

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There are none. Approval of minutes July 2026. I'll second discussion. >> Roll call. >> Counciloman. >> Yes. Councilman Kerry. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley. >> Yes. [snorts]

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>> Council. >> Yes. >> Councilman Hall. >> Yes. >> Council Riley. >> Yes. Mayor. >> Yes. Brings us to our first public question. Anyone in the public wish heard of any topic, I'm sorry, township business, please come to my state your name and

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address for the record. >> Hi, my name is Susanna Alvarium. I'm from Roxberry. Um, I brought my tax bill. Um, and I wrote a resolution since you guys think that resolutions work. So, here it is. Whereas July 27th, 2026,

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I received a property tax bill for the next four quarters, including preliminary bill for 2027. And whereas neither the township of Roxberry nor its officials have have informed the taxpayers of the fiscal fallout from the

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DHS warehouse for sale for the next four quarters or beyond. and whereas the lack of any communication or contact regarding the realistic potential of a mitigation plan or strategy to recover [snorts] uh known tax revenue loss. Um it is

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impossible for the township citizens to make informed fiscal decisions and commitments concerning their property tax obligations. And whereas the township of Roxberry provided no tangible proactive measures beyond written resolution 202629

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to stop the sale of the warehouse to DHS. [clears throat] And whereas any reactive measures to stop the warehouse [snorts] were led by the state AG, Senator Kim, and grassroots organizations. And whereas it is a primary objective of the town council

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and the township of Roxbury to ensure the public safety and welfare of its residents, business community and visitors to the township. However, the council has failed to provide and whereas the town council does not understand the difference between fixed period budgeting and financial planning

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and strategy which are distinctly different. Now therefore, be it resolved that the taxpaying citizens of the township [clears throat] in the county of Morris in the state of New Jersey hereby unequivocally oppose the tax increases thrust upon us because of the

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incompetency and general dismissiveness of this council and the absolute failure of this council to provide any actionable or tangible steps to prevent the warehouse sale to DHS. Does what I read hold any weight with this council at all?

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No, I didn't think so. Just as your 2026 029 resolution held no weight and continues to hold no weight with any person or agency outside of this room. It is a performative piece of paper, a worthless [clears throat]

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piece of paper with an official number associated with it. Thank you. >> Bonnie Rosenthal Um, >> sir, do you have something? Okay, thank you. Um,

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in 2020, um, when George Floyd was brutally murdered, um, I realized how ignorant I was and I started a, um, group. And one of the things I learned um [clears throat] in that time period

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was that when an individual has um one whatever of black blood that means the person's black. There were a lot of things that happened in the last meeting two weeks ago. I know a lot of people would sooner kind of forget those. Um

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one was the comment about race. Um, we have two people who are very frequently >> [cough] >> um, in the audience who are black. Um, this is not a calling anybody out just to say that whenever there's anything

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public, race is part of the equation. Not blaming anybody. I'm just saying that race is always present. Steve A, Roxbury, New Jersey. I just want to say I'm really sorry you had to sit there and listen to that first speaker. Thank you.

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>> Do you have to say your last name, sir? >> Oh, absolutely. >> Sit down. >> Yeah. Andrew, why did we have to do that? Adam Finn, 62 Clipwood Road, Chester, New Jersey.

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I want to start by congratulating Roxberry. This is a crossroads of commerce, about doors, sports, of industry, of innovation. We have a

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high school that is teaching aviation leading state. It's a wonderful place to live and shop and I drive through it all the time and I live next door. I'm in the community next to you. The reason I have come over here tonight

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though is because I think you're on the precipice of doing something that you all regret. This DHS project, this has happened before. So, I have a couple questions for you.

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You don't have to answer them. They're rhetorical. First is, how do you want to be remembered? Do you want to be remembered for the sort of things that I described when I started? Or do you want to be remembered for the sort of things that towns

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elsewhere have been remembered for when they made mistakes? When I say the word doc, the first thing that comes to your mind probably is a concentration camp as well. It should be.

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But if you've been to Bavaria or if you just think about it for a minute, Dao is a village. It's a quaint little beautiful Bavarian German village. You go there, you can get all the lovely

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things like apple strudel. And there was a concentration camp there. The reason it was built there wasn't ideological. It wasn't political. >> It was practical. It was convenient.

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There was an abandoned factory there. That factory used to make munitions during World War I. And after the war, it closed down. They didn't need the munitions anymore. Sir, >> I don't know. >> Three minutes. This session is specific. We hold a

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separate one for just >> Would you like me to finish or just repeat everything again later? >> Okay. Sorry. >> It was convenient. The town was actually run

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by the liberals, not the Nazis. It wasn't a Nazi town. It wasn't populated by bad evil people, the sort of people that we see in movies and the actual people that did those atrocities.

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Not in the beginning, not 51 days after Hitler was made chancellor of Germany because that's when Dao opened. 51 days later. And there were no final solution people in there. There

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were no gypsies. There were no Jews. There were no homosexuals. There were none of those people. There were political prisoners. There were people that opposed what was going on. And the town agreed because they needed

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to fill the buildings. They wanted jobs. And the people in that town wound up being the ones that swept the floors, mowed the lawns, mended the fences at DACA. Sure, the SS ran what was on inside the gates. And sure, some people signed up for that, too.

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But we remembered Doc because of the concentration camp. >> That's the decision before you. This project will happen somewhere but you have an opportunity to say no to it here. >> Thank you.

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[applause] >> I'm sorry. Did you >> I already You can be the first one or the second. council represent committee business. [snorts] I'll start off. Um, as most of you know

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or maybe not know, we had a tornado touchdown last week in the lower Ber Valley section of town. I again would like to thank the first responders for being out there protecting and making things safe. Like to thank fire company number three for opening themselves up

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for cooling and charging centers. I'd like to thank DPW for the great job that they did clearing sidewalks, roads, and debris. Um, and I'm going to say thank JC and Verizon. Uh, they worked as fast and as [snorts] safely as they all could

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to restore services to Roxbury Township. Um, there two um storms in a row that we did receive pretty good um support from from those uh utilities. And I also want to thank the residents for their patience as they went through it, right? Everybody wants everything back as fast

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as possible. Safety is always the number one uh concern. Uh last week, I'm sorry, two weeks ago, deputy mayor and I had a meeting with the NJ and the New Jersey lake alliance. Um we once again asked

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the state park state park [snorts] to include that park in the state's reservation system. so that we have an understanding of um how many cars are coming to the park. Um you know what happens is the park fills up very early

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and then nobody knows where to go and what to do and they end up everywhere. So [snorts] uh we've been asking for about four or five years now for a reservation system to be included in that reservation system. Um I think uh we might get some headway this time

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because they offered me a a meeting that just uh around that topic. So, more to come on that mayor. >> Thank you, Mayor. I too want to thank everybody for when the tornado hit in

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Berg Valley. Um, also the police and and I want to remind people I I did take a drive through there and it was a disaster. Uh, actually to get to fire company 3, you had to go up to Howard Boulevard and Jefferson come down was

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the only access in there. We just allow that to last very long. But I want to thank the police because they were down wires and they were telling me that people still trying to drive home and go around the cones and everything else. You had your cones out early. Um

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people got to really adhere to what the rule was for their safety. See people trying to figure out how to get around very frustrating. The other thing on a nice is that we did have an employee lunchon uh last week and uh I

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think it was fantastic. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um first and received an email from a constituent about dooritations. Can you remind me what permitted not? What should our residents do? Apparently

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she's getting frequent visitors. I know occasionally you send us Yes. Other ones don't have licens [clears throat] of that nature. They don't have to get

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usually work with us and inspection as to how many people like we have people. and they go through all the different departments and we do background checks and we do all that

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from us. >> Yes, we don't have a badge. >> Correct. That is something to be clear because [clears throat] [snorts] they immediately

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does not have a badge from us. >> Yes. and they'll go out and they'll check it out. Other than that two weeks ago fantastic $30,000 continue to meet specific

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responders at all. EMS shine a little bit light on social services uninhabitable homes they dealt with I think they contacted all 10 of them we end up having one or two that was done

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very well. The other thing I'll get, but I'll bring it up anyway. Is it also Saturday? Are you going to bring it up again? >> The times are Saturday, August 1st, 2026

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91 p.m. Police for all the hard work. Um, the only that the board of education's next scheduled meeting is August the 17th and

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I will be attending the reopening of the tennis court tennis ball courts at tomorrow and that's all I >> thank you I would also like to thank our

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police DPW and EMS I was listening to the tornado you guys woke up there really fastp But you were affected at your building I think with trees coming down. Am I wrong? >> Not within facility but right around the corner of >> Yeah. So, it was a crazy and my utmost

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app. >> So, on my way back um from Rockaway when a storm hit and you know I pulled right over this side of the road. M fact. I wanted to find an alternate way to get out. Um but as I was coming down, the storm had

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You guys are on site and you guys are on site within minutes. So I I've never seen anything like it. I saw all the trucks pull up within minutes while I was trying to turn around and it was uh it was remarkable. Just a really really nice nice job guys. Uh our new pickle

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ball courts as Councilman Gary mentioned tennis courts. We'll have a grand opening for that tomorrow night at 5:30. That's been a long road. Thanks to Steve, Brett, and all that were involved to complete this. Um, and the passes uh

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to get on and use it are selling very well at recreation. Um, I I failed to mention at the m last meeting, but you know, we we have a real special person in town. Sean, you may know her, Abby Ret.

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So, I turned on the television on I think it was either Saturday or Sunday and now she's playing in the all American game on TV for high school. Um, she's a first team all state player. Uh, she was named the 2026 player of the

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year by the New Jersey Lacrosse Foundation. She had 101 goals this year. Um, she obtained all American status and it's just pretty pretty amazing. She's a USA lacrosse all-American and

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national senior game all-American status. She's committed to uh go to Michigan. She's a special player. Really really special. Yes, she >> so um she she deserves just a ton of

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recognition for you know mentioned the national planning committee as I agreed not much report yet. I attended the 21st annual silver invitational swim championship at worship lake west Saturday. Uh congrats

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to Roxberry Racers uh for their successes at that. Uh Steve scheduled a meeting with the D continue to address the ongoing issues with the odors at the overlook apartments. Uh I agree the uh employee appreciation

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lunch was was done very nicely and I received some nice feedback on that. I agree with Bob. The Roxberry Women's Club event is is important. You can participate. There's a there's a list of things that

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they need. So just follow that list. >> Madam cl >> matters request referred by council members, managers, attorney or clerk. application for social affairs permit. >> [clears throat] >> Item nine, introduction of proposed

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ordinance 14-26 bond ordinance to authorize the making of a sanitary sewer improvement and the acquisition of new additional or replacement equipment and machinery in by and for the sewer utility of the township of Rox. in the county of Morris

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state of New Jersey to appropriate the sum of 1,695,000 to pay the cost thereof to authorize the issuance of bond to finance such appropriations and to provide such issuance of bond [snorts] note in

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anticipation of the issuance [clears throat] >> discussion This is specifically for the RBC >> and it's two RBCs. Correct. >> Any further discussion? Roll call. >> Counciloman. >> Yes. >> Councilman Terry. >> Yes.

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>> Captain Mayor Crowley. >> Yes. >> Councilman. >> Yes. >> Councilman Hall. >> Yes. >> Council. >> Yes. >> Mayor. >> Yes. Item 10. Hearing adoption of ordinance on secondary 11 introduction adoption resolutions.

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I'll move 2026-194 to include 2026-1 195 and 2026-1 198. discuss aware of this. So we appropriated a certain amount of money to cover the vehicle plus most of

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the up. We were planning to add this basically radioir. >> Any further [snorts] discussion? >> Roll call. >> Counciloman. >> Yes. >> Councilman Kerry. >> Yes. Mayor Crowley. >> Yes.

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>> Council, >> yes. >> Councilman Hall, >> yes. >> Council Riley, >> yes. >> Mayor Pat, >> yes. >> Item 12, personnel changes. There are none. 13, communications, July 24th, 2026. >> This brings us to our second public

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portion. Anybody in the public wish [snorts] anyone state name and address for the record three minutes per >> I appreciate that's fine. I have like maybe more than one but [cough] [clears throat] 141 Arlington Boulevard.

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Um Landing Park >> Shade where are we? I've asked many times. Might be a bond. Somebody here said a grant might be in the budget. Just tell me if I'm ever going to see shade at Landon Park.

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>> Most as well. The most recent efforts we're looking for there. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, that was our second application. We applied for a grant from T-Mobile uh to fund that project. [laughter]

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So it's something that we're looking at in those things out there looking. >> Yes. So what budget would it go to if this budget's already done? Excuse me. >> Capital budget.

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>> So do you think we're ever going to see a shade at Landing Park? I mean something that the country's working. >> I have to hide under the rock wall to stay there. I mean the Del Avenue is beautiful. The baseball, you know, is beautiful. I mean, we need shade there.

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I mean, just go put up a sun canopy with four poles and be done. Let's call it a day. >> We want to make sure we do. >> Okay. The only other thing I wanted to ask for, um I I just want to see that. I mean, it's a beautiful park. It's [clears throat] just there's no shade. Um the Kanas Park pickle ball that I was

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going to tomorrow night. Um what is the [cough and clears throat] fees for? >> Yeah, >> I'm sorry. Your question is what? >> The pickle ball courts that's going to be the grand opening tomorrow night at Moana's Park. What is the fees going towards?

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It's $50 for residents, 100 for non-residents. >> The pickle ball course. We have we established a recreation fee for every single activity that we have within the township of Roxburg. So um you know this will go towards that

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purpose. >> It's going to be this going to be this going to be ongoing you know things that be done in court. >> So am I paying for just the pickle ball courts or am I >> also paying for a card to get in? Well, I know that, but am I only paying for pickle ball or am I paying for anything

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in Rockport? >> Well, it depends. If you're renting out a facility within Roxbury Township, you're going to have to pay for it, you know, in general. If you're just walking through the park, absolutely not. >> Your clubs are going into a general account just like the softball players might not use. So, it's general account.

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It's not just >> But I am paying personally if I want to go by the usage and cost. That's absolutely correct. So, there's about a course that went into that. Um, >> it's going to be great for the community.

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>> Yeah, the user fees are something that I've been in place for decades. That perm update to the program and the use of the court is exactly what was said earlier. You know, we have a new RFID system to access the court and that's really just

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protect the investment. >> We've already seen that there's been dirt bikes that have tried to get on the court, rollerblades, skateboards. Those are all things that would be great to surface that we want to make sure that the money that was allocated for the project is [clears throat]

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going to be the reason for the per >> So me going pickle ball is the first time that I would be encouraing a user for your use. That permit has been to opted not to require the permit.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> Appreciate >> you. >> Of course. Uh Corey Hervig from Pipony. Uh at the last council meeting, a gentleman got up and asked the police chief if he would respond to calls about cars with illegal tints and no license

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plates. I think we all know that he was talking about ICE, so I'm just going to be direct about that. Here's what we've witnessed just in the last few weeks. Cars with illegally tinted windshields so dark you can't see anything at all. Cars with intentionally obscured license plates. Cars with no front license

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plates. Cars with no license plates at all, front or back. We even witnessed >> Sorry, excuse me. >> Uh, I've seen them in various towns throughout the county. >> Yes. To clarify, various towns throughout the county, including

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Roxberry. Yes. Understood. >> We even witnessed two cars in the same town at the same time with the same license plate, meaning they had split a pair of plates and put them on two different cars at the same time. Cars parked in the middle of the street

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blocking traffic. [snorts] Cars running red lights and driving erratically. Councilman Crowley just stated earlier this evening that people need to adhere to what the rules are. So, I would like to know if we can get a commitment from the Roxberry Police to enforce the traffic laws against cars engaging in

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this type of behavior, even if the driver is an ICE agent. >> Please direct questions to the council. >> Sure. >> Can I get an answer from council? >> You know, our police department does a great job here in town and they're here not to look for only vehicles with

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tinted windows and no license plates. to protect the entire community, >> of course, >> from erratic drivers, from illegally registered cars, >> township, >> of course. >> Understood. I would hope that that would include behavior like the things that I

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listed out. Um, second, I'd like to address something that was said by Mayor Patillo at the last council meeting. I [snorts] believe his words were, "Race has no place in this room." I would hope that we can all agree that in this country, race is inherently political. Anyone sitting in elected has a duty to

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recognize and understand that whether we like it or not, our political systems are built around racial constructs and the oppression of one people because of the perceived superiority of another. To say that race has no place in this room makes you appear either completely naive or intentionally obtuse to the realities

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around all of us. I hope that you'll do some deep reflection on your statement and realize the harm that it caused, particularly to the people of color in this room. >> Ma'am, I will address >> Please. You may base your decisions and things outside this room on race. That's where

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you're right in this room. Everybody comes in. I'm not looking at anybody's race, gender, anything. Everybody gets treated exactly the same. >> Well, that's understood. >> People of color who walk into this room [clears throat] don't leave their color

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at the door. It comes with them. And I think to deny that people's experience is different based on the color of their skin is >> think I don't know that. >> I would hope that you would and I would hope that you would understand

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>> this room. No one is making decisions based on race. That's where the statement ends. >> Whatever you want to do and however you want to decide on things outside of this room, you are more than welcome to do that. And here no one is doing that. What I am hearing is I don't see color.

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And to me, that is a dismissal of people's lived experience. So, I just want to make you aware of the perceived harm that your statement caused for people in the room. >> I'm sorry. What's that? >> Um, my name is Veronica Fernandez. I'm

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in Long Valley. Um, I also want to say that I'm on everybody's ballot here uh this upcoming November uh to challenge Corey Booker as an independent progressive southern candidate on the ballot. Um, being a representative is a

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big job and uh you also need to answer big questions and I was really disturbed last meeting to hear that uh none of you had been to Delaney Hall. Um, so I don't know if anybody has been since to Delaney Hall. Um yesterday when I

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checked 78% of the detainees have no criminal record other than coming into this country which is a misdemeanor. They don't even have so much as traffic violations. And uh the other thing I wanted to say is um uh I don't know if

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you've never been there, you've never seen children running from ice, children screaming ice and running. It's horrifying and it's very similar to what you've seen on in the old World War II movies when uh when Jewish children were running from the Gustafa, when you see a

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child running from authorities, it's terrifying. It it will rock you. Um and uh the other thing that I wanted to say is now that Tom Kaine has returned from being treated for the mental health at the level of insurance that he has voted

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to deny us all. I wanted to know, have any of you had had any communications with Tom Kane Jr. about this recent possible reversal of opening this facility as a detention center? Has anybody heard from Tom Kane Jun? >> Was he with Mitch McConnell?

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>> I've spoken with his office. >> You have spoken with his office. Can you elaborate? >> Uh, I've reached out and spoken with his office. >> So, you cannot elaborate? >> No. >> Okay. Is there a reason why? >> Um, not at this time. I'm not I can't

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discuss it >> for what? >> Okay. Big [clears throat] job requires answering the big questions. >> I understand >> but you don't practice it. You're not practicing it. >> We're also in a lawsuit. So [snorts] >> well that I don't think that there's

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like a privilege or anything there. I mean we >> So you're not practicing it. Uh the other thing um I wanted to see um you know transparency being responsible you know uh holding to your val values and uh being representative. I'd like to see

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a show of hands here of those of you who do not support this detention center going forward. Raise your hands if you do not support this. >> We've taken action. >> Awesome. Thank you. Thank you sir. Thank

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you. You don't support it in >> You don't You don't support it at all. You You don't Okay. Do you support it? >> Please address just Yeah. Well, it's just a kind like such a

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[clears throat] a conflict of interest that we've got >> three minutes up. Thank you. >> My three minutes are up, but there's much more up than that right now. >> Thank you. Jody Keagan 90 road speaker. I don't think she got an

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answer. So is still no one thinking we get like a out loud answer. Why can't there be an answer? >> I understand that but there can be no for the record there can be no answer.

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Okay. Alluded to the prior speaker tonight from the first session. It would be a terrible thing if Roxberry or any other portions of the township became synonymous with Dow.

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Uh I am so glad the deputy mayor took a drive-thru at the tornado touchdown site in uh in the township. I would still encourage everyone on the council to do a driveby to Lady Hall.

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Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Susanna O. Roxberry. There was a um an article in the New Jersey Insider called Don't Blame the Governor for Changing ICE Plans written

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by Fred Snow Black on 22nd of July. I'd like to summarize it and ask some questions. Uh, don't blame me. It's not my fault. That was Mikey Cheryl's reaction when asked about the comments by township officials that her response to the feds abandoning plans for an ICE

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detention center in this Morris County town caused them to change their mind and presumably out of spite because I reported that we won. The governor said in a Tuesday press conference. So somehow that gives Trump full license to

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walk back a very bad decision, she added. A statement in late June by Governor uh and Jennifer Davenport, the attorney general, called the Fed's change of plans a major victory for the state and for the township of Roxberry. Councilman James Riley suggested that

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what he called Cherald's anti-Trump dance prompted the feds to change course. In other words, her celebration was too exuberant. As noted, the de the governor dismissed that view. She said of the feds, "They overpaid for their warehouse. They lost in court and they

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have egg on their face. When you make a stupid decision, you often lose in court." Ask some questions. What part of Governor or Ag Davenport's statement was it the equivalent of an anti-Trump dance in a suit in the end zone? Isn't that

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what you said, Mr. Riley? What part of her statement is equivalent to an anti-Trump dance in a suit in the end zone? And moreover, does she dance to the song YMCA just like the president does?

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Just a quick question. Is a potential closure of a human warehouse not cause for celebration? Does anybody here find that that is not a reason to celebrate? Raise your hand. Oh, you think it's a reason to celebrate? So do I.

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Did anybody on the council disagree with the government or AG's statement that the changes of plans was a major victory for the state or Roxberry? Was it a major victory? I think it was. Is there something controversial here that I'm

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missing? Okay, let's just play devil's advocate for a moment and conclude that the entire government agency did indeed pivot, change directions, and double back on an agreed resolution because the other party celebrated too hard in the

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end zone. Do you think that that is a sign of a wellthought through decision by a credible agency or the sign of a MAGA regime led by a petty manchild with a fragile ego? Ego? I'm going to go with the ladder. Thanks.

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>> Did you want to go before me, sir? Sir, did you want to go before me? No. Okay. I just want the respect of being able to speak if all if all folks in the audience here can address the council. >> Okay, I will do that. Is she making comments right next to me? So, thank

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you. Um, funny. Um, just going to go a kind of different direction here. The 6600 erroneous registrations represented approximately.1% of New Jersey's voter registration list. While the fewer than

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[snorts] 400 people who voted represented just 0.009% of the votes cast in the 2024 election describes the incident as a tiny blip. I know I share that because I'm not sure who the people are in this audience in

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terms of reviewing all of the information that's out there. I also am concerned um that uh Mr. Buo or Senator Buco then goes on to make comments looking back at prior elections in

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reference to when the motor vehicle started allowing um registration and all. And I say that because if Mr. Buo, Senator Buo, is looking at that stuff, then you guys need to be looking at your own election. Somebody raised that

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question last time we were here in terms of your attorney is possibly questioning elections. So, I suggest going into election season. Um, the last thing I'll state is um all this happened within the

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past two weeks. the commentary that happened, the voting, the more people getting killed, all this stuff. And I can't amount it to being about hate and all. So my commentary is and all.

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Why do you hate people who are undocumented so much? Why is it like why? I don't get it. And all somebody wrote and all, "If we all put the love out there instead of the hate, wow, we'd go a long, long ways."

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[applause] >> Anybody else wishes to be heard, please stand online now. I'm going to close public after Sierra Wilson. I'm in Mount Olive. I have a few quotes to read for you. So interesting to see progressive Democrat congressw women who originally came from

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countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept government in the world. Why don't they go back and help fix the totally broken and crimeinfested place from which they came? Uh that is from President Donald Trump. Each of the women that he's

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referring to were born in the US, but they are of brown skin. It is uh Representative Cortez, Representative Schwab, and Representative Presley. Uh next quote, "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of

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problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists." Trump said this in 2015, although a study in 2017 [snorts] uh found that nativeorn citizens are more likely to commit crimes than either

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documented or undocumented immigrants. Um, last but not least, why is it we only take people from [ __ ] hole countries? Why can't we have some people from Norway, Sweden, just a few? Let us have just a few. From Denmark, do you mind sending us some good people? We

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always take people from Somalia, places that are disaster, filthy, dirty, disgusting, and ridden with crime. Uh, so again, tell me that race doesn't matter here when we're talking about an ICE detention center.

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talking about immigrants, either documented or undocumented. Tell me that race doesn't matter. Thank you. >> Hi, Bridget Frank from Jefferson and I want to build on a lot of the things that people were talking about today.

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First, I want to quickly mention because Bonnie was talking about why do you hate? Right now in the Jewish [clears throat] calendar, it is a time of morning and tomorrow is the 15th of which is a day of love. And hopefully some of the things that you heard today will help shift your perspective about

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what is going on. It's time we recognize the cost of silence and the l your lack of use of your legislative power. Our community can't control federal enforcement and you can't hide behind your lawsuit forever. You have to start passing ordinances to help prevent this

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concentration camp from going up. We can control whether the local government becomes complicit through inaction. I have a master's degree in Jewish Christian studies. I studied the relationships between Jews and Christians post World War II specifically. And I've said this before,

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but I think it's worth saying again that concentration camps aren't necessarily death camps. And most of what I want to talk about tonight is building on the gentleman's speech from earlier, which is the early concentration camps. Because what's going on right now looks exactly like Germany in 1933.

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Once Adolf became chancellor, like I said, that didn't start at death camps. The concentration camps um were run by the SS, who were more or less um security guards, kind of like border control. The SS became an agency of

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security, mass surveillance, and a state of terrorism within Germany. and Germany occupied Europe much like ICE and Dean Jess right now. [cough] [clears throat] The first concentration camps arose just a few months due to Hitler's desire to suppress tens of

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thousands of opponents to his political desires. Nazis used activist disruptions as a pretext for mass arrests without due process detention without trial and without legal representation. Just like today, arrests of Germans in 1933 were

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often accompanied by public humiliation or beatings or, you know, when the governor sends the police to pepper spray protesters. The Nazis imprisoned people in these camps without charging them with a crime. Prisoners were held there indefinitely without legal recourse.

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This is exactly what we're experiencing now. There was no guarantee they would ever be released. Actually, some Jews were allowed to be released if they signed papers to selfport. Kind of like what we're seeing today, right?

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During this time, there was an average about 70,000 prisoners in around 1933, 1934 Germany. And would you know that's about how many prisoners we have now. Himmler used the war to kind of grow the

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types of people that they were putting in these concentration camps. most political opponents, communists, and that grew to socialists, Jews, Freemasons, and criminals with no criminal records. >> Thank you, Mr. >> Yeah. So, just keep that in mind.

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[applause] >> Caitlyn, one second, >> sir. I'm closing public after her. I'd ask everyone, anyone else who would like to speak to please come up. >> Sorry. I I am a I'm a veteran in the United States Air Force and I have to limit my

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time on my feet. >> So if if I could say about less than a minute, I would appreciate the respect of the council. So >> I'm Caitlyn Kian. I'm from Chester, which as you know, backs up to Boxberry.

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Um, and I and my family are regularly here for shopping and doctor's appointments and getting my dog's nails trimmed. And I am deeply worried and have been for months. [clears throat] Um, and having just been at Delaney this weekend, where I would also encourage

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you to go see what's going on outside Delaney. Um, when I was there, an ICE vehicle came roaring through much too fast. Um, making a turn and almost ran two people over. People who were just

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walking on the sidewalk. Um, that facility, as anyone in ICE would know, is, you know, regularly having families come and they are outside walking on that sidewalk with small children and there's people all over. Um, and ice

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Having a facility here in Roxberry is going to make us all so much less safe. My father was a psychologist and one of his jobs, the county hired him to screen police officers before they were hired. One of the things that we're seeing is

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that ICE is not having the same kind of screening that we need people in law enforcement to have. Um, and we've seen all sorts of horrible things happening around the country within the facilities. People are dying. They're dying after being detained, but also ICE

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is driving too fast on our streets, too fast outside of detention centers, and also shooting people. Um, so we don't want that. You don't want that, but [clears throat] you could be doing a lot more to stop it. I know there's a lawsuit. I know you've publicly come out

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and said it, but you need to be using this time right now to pass ordinances against more carceral facilities in your town, barbed wire, uh, oversized generators, huge generators. There are things you could be doing to be putting

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roadblocks up to put off opening this facility if they continue to go forward. So, I want to urge you to start moving on those things right now. >> Thank you for offering me a couple more minutes of grace. Uh, I'm still Adam Fitting. I'm still from Chester. As I mentioned, I'm an honorably discharged

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veteran of the United States Air Force. And I was going to add this to my initial comments. I'm also an Italian American, Polish American, German American, and

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the people that they're putting in these detention centers right now, as mentioned earlier, are not criminals. They're just simply new here. I see a lot of names up there that look like the kind of names I grew up around. My grandparents names were Rocco,

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Dary. I grew up around kids named Riley and McFersonson. But when we were kids in the 70s, there was still some of that 1920s spirit left

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where we were called wops or we were called [ __ ] or we were called patties. >> And so before you forget before you forget where you come from and what was

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done to the people that came here without papers, which is what stands for. Please remember that that very same thing is happening to the honest [cough and clears throat] people that are out there trying to earn a living and experience the same American

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dream that some of you may have benefited from by dent of your ancestors doing the exact same thing that these people, these good people who are being detained and locked up are experiencing. >> Thank you.

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>> [applause] >> session. resolution of the township council township of county of Mars, New Jersey, authorizing conference of the township council public excluded whereas it is deemed appropriate the township council discuss the matters here and after mention of the public in accordance with

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provisions of RS 10-12 12B being section B of the open public meeting act. Therefore, be it resolved by the township council of township of Roberry litigations tax shall be discussed by the town of council without

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>> make a motion. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, >> happy birthday. [laughter] Good for you.