Like there's pictures. Okay. to order. Please rise for >> to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. I'd like to call up fire official pellet just to give some directions before we begin the meeting. Please. >> Good evening everybody. And and always keeping safety in mind tonight since we have a big public gathering. We are controlling the crowd that's here. But
I'd like you to keep in mind the exits should we have the fire alarm go off or any event of an emergency. You have, if you're in this room, you have the exit that you see right there on the right to the hallway outside. We also, you can use this door here, make a right and
your first left at the end of the hall will take dump you right outside. If you're in the courtroom, you can come in the exit that you came in down the hallway right outside. There is a remote exit towards the back of the ODS that you can go through, follow the exit signs there. It'll bring you back out
into the hallway. You can go to the left and go outside or come back this way. So in event emergency, please use those exits. Don't get in the habit that the way you came in is the way you go out. Okay. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Amy, open public meeting statement.
>> Adequate notice of this meeting of the township council of the township of Roxbury was given as required by the open public meetings act as follows. On December 31st, 2025, notice was emailed and faxed to the Daily Record, the Northstar ledger, the West Morris Reporter, and published in the Daily Record. Notice also remain posted
throughout the year on the bulletin board in the main hallway of the municipal building. >> Thank you. Roll call. >> Councilwoman Albert, >> I'm here. >> Councilman Carrie. Deputy Mayor Crowley >> here. >> Councilman D. Philippo >> here. >> Councilman Hall
>> here. Councilman Riley >> here. >> Mayor Patillo >> here. This brings us presentations, awards, etc. There are none. Item five, approval of minutes. We have January 6th, January 13th, and January 20, 2026.
>> Second. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, roll call. >> Councilwoman Alrech, >> yes. Deputy Mayor Crowley, >> yes. Councilman Dippo, January 6. >> Councilman Hall, >> yes.
>> Councilman Riley, >> yes. >> Mayor Patella, >> yes. This brings us to our first public portion. With such a a crowd here today, I pass our first public portion remains focused on township business. Um, and then we'll open up the second public
portion for any comments, questions, or concerns on 1879 Route 46. Um, I'd also ask that anybody in the overflow room in our courtroom um we're going to have our fire officials um helping to manage
people so we maintain code and they'll help take people out of this room to bring additional people back in. All right, so I'm going to open up the public portion. Uh, our first public portion. Ask anyone who has township business to come up. Maintain three minutes. State your name and address for
the record. >> Good evening, Dennis Wine. I'll be right. My subject is water, not ice. I understand they want to raise our water bill. I'm talking about the New Jersey American Water Company, not the Township Company. And it looks like
they're asking for $10. My basic request is first of all, they've already raised it according to my calculations by about 125% since they took over in 2019. I gave the mayor some documents. But anyway, if the township
council, I couldn't get the copy of the BPU filing. I can't seem to find it on the website. The state BPU uh maybe got looked in the wrong places, but I was going to town to get their hands on it. get a tab to access it. I think it would
be interesting for the town to see it and read it. This company wants to spend about a billion subund million on improvements. I don't think we need much of any improvement in Roxberry. I have our residents are being asked to subsidize uh all these other towns which
I have a list of. Uh maybe take a look and if you see something in there while somebody could attend the hearing I think yesterday.
>> Thank you sir. >> Hello uh Valerie Lamorgis for Bell Court Landing. Uh I just wanted to say thank you to the Roxberry Township Council and staff who are also here in the room, the fire department, police department uh
for all your efforts um throughout the years and also dealing with all the issues here in this town now. You guys have been doing a great job keeping all the residents and informed and the police and fire keeping everybody safe. So just wanted to say thank you to you guys for everything that you guys are doing.
>> Thank you. Anybody else wish to be heard on township business for this public portion? We'll get through the rest of the agenda and we'll open that back up for a second portion. So seeing none, I'll close public. This brings us to reports of council on
representatives council committees new and bold business. Um, I'll start. So, last week I attended Lake Musk on regional plane board. Not much to um discuss on that topic right now since the lake is frozen. Uh,
they're just prepping for uh the spring fall and to continue the great work they're doing there. Uh, I also just attended uh right before this meeting our economic development committee meeting. Um, one of the programs that that committee has uh instituted here in
town is a business longevity recognition program. Uh it recognizes businesses that have been operating uh in town for 25 or 50 years. Uh and we uh received an application and we are happy that we will be recognizing Dominic's Salon and
Barberh Shop for over 50 years of successful business here in Roxbury. Uh and we'll bring them in or go to them, whatever um they would like to do um within the next uh month or so. So really exciting to see another successful business here in town. And
then the last thing I'd like to just do is I wanted to thank our DPW Steve our DPW, our frontline workers and first responders. Um I even want to thank JCPNL being so transparent with um their
services and their their actions taken during this last storm. Um I also have a special thank you for the Roxberry Rotary Club for um collecting donations to uh provide snacks and foods and drinks for um all the crew that were out
there 24 hours um making sure Roxberry uh remained open, safe, and moving forward. So a big thank you to everyone who contributed um to this snowstorm uh this past weekend. Thank you. Uh that's all I have and uh Deputy Mayor. Thank
you, Mayor. I said get on everything that you've said. I'll just add one more thing because it was neighbors helping neighbors. I got a couple calls, you know, check on this person. Someone check on someone else. Uh help them doing some of the sidewalks. This was a huge snow event,
but it's just fantastic how the whole whole community came together. The only thing that I have I do participate in the EDC meeting tonight told you about um Lake Foundation is going to run a 250
anniversary sale in July July 15th there. We'll get some more information follow two weeks after we do the veterans cruise. We have a lot going on. That's it. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Alber.
>> I would also like to thank DPW and all the emergency services, police, fire, nurses, doctors, everybody. Um, we had a terrible storm. It lasted 24 hours, but you guys did great. And stay safe and warm because we
have another potential norm coming up on Sunday, which I this summer girl does not want. That's all I have for today. >> Thank you, Councilman Hall. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, at the next meeting, we'll be getting a resolution
from the environmental commission regarding the forestry plan. So, any questions from council, please let me know. Again, this is the funding for this will come out of the Highlands Commission. So, thank you to the Highlands for stepping up and helping us
out with that. Um, again, I'm miming what everybody the same great job. Really, really nice job. And for the people out in the audience, just be careful when you're going to intersections. We have 16 in.
>> Yeah. You know, they had a pilot, you know, in a lot of different places. So, if you're pulling out a lot of sometimes your sight distance may not be as as good. >> So, just, you know, just keep an eye on that. You know, hopefully warmer days are on their way. There'll be a public
meeting on Imagination Station. uh they will be shared a discussion with Amy on that. This is for the grant opportunity for the new imagination station and we had meetings with recreation the environment over the last two weeks. Thank you, Mary. That's Thank you,
Councilman Riley. We did have a meeting this week, but I would like to extend our thanks to everybody that you all mentioned already. DPW intersection today.
Not in a storm like this. >> Thank you, Councilman Dippo. >> Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, Steve Senise was telling us before that, you know, the good news was on Sunday all the businesses in town closed, which made it really easy for them to help clean up, but then there was no place for anybody
to eat. So, the Rotary Club donated food and snacks was really well received. I mean, they actually did food, so that was great. to save Steve to drive out his town to pick up.
>> Um, we did have a joint meeting of the library foundation board and the library trustee board u because we're about five years into this capital program to add on to the library and we've raised about $700,000 in five years. We wanted to get
a sort of a gut check on where we are and where we're going. It was a terrific meeting. Um, a lot of great people participated. JJ got a chance to get a sort of a good deep dive into what we're trying to do. And um, so we're we're moving forward. It's a It's a It's not a
sprint. It's a It's a long distance. All right. And that's it for me. Thank you. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. >> Nothing tonight. Thank you, >> Mr. Murphy. Yes. I I also want to commend the DBW, police, fire, uh some
other branches sometimes don't get remembered are the emergency management people who are coordinating and the water and sewer department who are out there 247. Your water service wasn't shut down. Your your sewers work, you know, these these people have to be out there all the time. So,
city staff and county staff uh really work hand in hand. I do want to uh remind people, especially during storms like this, please if you have a a fire hydrant in your neighborhood, please shovel that out. Uh there was another
community in New Jersey where they had a house fire and didn't shovel out. So the fire department was not able to uh find that right away or it took them like 15 minutes to shovel it out themselves and the one alarm fire turned
to a three alarm fire. So you on the street if there's a fire hydrant, police, do a civic duty and and make sure that's clear so that if emergency happens, our first responders can get there and get right to work.
>> Good. Thank you, Mr. Bryce. >> Thank you. >> Item eight, matters requested deferred by council members, managers, attorney clerk, there are none. Item nine, introduction of proposed ordinances. 02-26 an ordinance to amend the supplement
chapter 7 traffic of the revised general ordinance of the township of Roxbury County of Morris State of New Jersey and establishing a no parking zone during certain hours on Rigs Avenue and Morris Street. There's a typo there. It should
say street. Make a motion. >> Any discussion? Uh, there's a second reading on this on February 10th. Roll call. >> Councilwoman, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley, >> yes. >> Council,
>> yes. >> Councilman Hall, >> yes. >> Councilman Riley, >> yes. >> Mayor Pat, >> yes. 03-26, an ordinance to vacate any and all public rights in and to the right ofway and portion thereof known as
first, second, third, fourth, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, Nate Avenue, Bennett Street, and Zelda Place, as well as Mitchell and Rigs Avenue in the township of Roxberry, County of Morris,
state of New Jersey. All right, just to be clear that this is not the same rigs as the first ordinance. This is breaks in the land. These are all >> any further discussion. >> Roll call.
>> The second reading is March 10th, 2026. >> Thank you. >> Councilwoman, yes. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley, >> yes. >> Councilman D. Philippo, >> yes. >> Councilman Hall, >> yes. >> Councilman Riley, >> yes. Mayor. >> Yes. Item 10, hearing adoption of
ordinances on second reading 0126 calendar year 2026 ordinance to exceed the municipal budget appropriations limit to establish a cap bank NJSA 40-45- I'm sorry 14. A motion to open the
public. >> Second. >> All in favor? Anybody in the public wish to be heard on this ordinance and this ordinance alone? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Motion to adopt.
>> Second. >> Roll call. >> Counciloman. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Crowley. >> Yes. >> Councilman D. Falupa. >> Yes. >> Councilman Hall. >> Yes. >> Councilman Riley. >> Yes. >> Mayor Patello. >> Yes. Item 11,
introduction and adoption of resolutions of a motion 202630 include 2026 31 2026 36. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, roll call. >> Councilwoman, yes.
>> Dr. M Crowley, >> yes. >> Councilman D. Flip, >> yes. Councilman Hall, >> yes. >> Councilman Riley, >> yes. >> Mayor Patilla, >> yes. >> Item 12, personnel change, there are none. Item 13, communications, January
23rd, 2026. Any comments, discussion? >> Deputy mayor. >> The packages correspondence from the strong coastal cos. should look at that looked at by
municipalities essentially energy in the past we talked about solar power one of the things that I think we have to understand is how much the state is funding on this some of the numbers if you read it looks like the state is
putting a lot of money energy credits into this we do anything in this area really understand I agree. about I'd like to hear a little bit more really.
All right, moving on. All right, this brings us to our second call. Um before I open it up to the public, I just like to read a make a statement. Um so council continues to work with our professional staff uh state and federal
representatives. Last week, council director of township manager to meet with US Senator Cy Booker. The senator and Mr. Murphy met at the site in question where Mr. Murphy provided the senator with our township's concerns, including the location of the property is within a residential area. Our
township volunteer fire department, our volunteer EMS are not designed to support facility like this. Our small police force is not designed to support facility like this. Traffic access and easement concerns at the location and the significant restriction on the property with regards to water and
store. Uh the council also has concerns of significant tax revenue loss that would occur if this building would be turned into that facility. The senator reached out to the US immigration customs enforcement on behalf of Roxbury Township
and received a response that included ICE has no new detention centers to announce at this time. As information is able to be made public, the agency will communicate promptly with federal, state, and local lawmakers. The senator
remains engaged and continues to keep and and pledges to continue to keep us informed um on information he receives. Uh I'd like to thank uh Mr. for meeting us down there and providing the same concerns to him that we were able to
meet with ICE directly were able to give them two weeks ago. Uh we will as a council continue to give updates and provide information as it becomes available. At this time, I'd like to open it to the public. Um please come to the microphone, state your name and
address for the record and please maintain three minutes. Thank you. No timing when we have to adjust the mic for tonight. Um, Bonnie Rosenthal Randolph. In September, Mayor Patillo spoke at a Charlie Kirk memorial in Roxbury,
stating that he was speaking on behalf of his family and town council colleagues. He stated, quote, "We must all look toward building a better future, one entrenched in peace, unity, and respect for one another." referencing the homicide of Kirk, a Ukrainian refugee, and two Colorado
college students. He further stated, quote, "These things should not happen in a civilized society. There were not acts of courage, but cowardice, and they must serve as a turning point for us as people." Two weeks ago, this council unanimously approved a resolution against a proposed ICE facility being
opened in Roxbury. Thank you for that. Prior to it being voted upon, Mayor Patello stated, quote, "I am not voting against any of our country's laws, including our immigration laws." That night, I read a statement by Becca Good after the murder of Renee Nicole Good. Since that time, there have been two
more shootings against individuals in Minneapolis, including most recently the murder of Alex Preddy. I would request tonight that like you made a statement at the Charlie Kirk Memorial on behalf of the council that you as the mayor andor other council members make an unequivocal and strong statement this
evening that while the Roxbury Town Council agrees with US laws regarding immigr immigration being fairly and humanely enforced that you do not stand with what ICE and Border Patrol are currently doing. My further request is that the council take additional steps which can be done to make sure that
there is no ICE facility in Roxbury and the council will take steps to protect its residents from the horrific activities currently taking place at the hands of DHS. It is important that leaders lead by standing up for what we Americans have fought for for almost 250
years. We do not want to end up as pastor Marin Nimmeri at all who stated first they came for the communists and I did not speak out because I was not a communist. Then they came for the socialists and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. I would ask for you to make a public comment this evening denouncing it just as you did when you did it for
Charlie Kirk. >> Before I get to my questions, I just want to uh Oh, I'm sorry. William Angus in Hacketttown. Uh, sorry about that. Um, before I get into my questions for you, uh, mayor, I just want to publicly thank, uh, Chief Holland, who I know is
in the room at the back, and I also want to thank Lieutenant Gaffy. Uh, he is the he is the officer who was tasked to be my liaison with all of these efforts. And I cannot in strong enough terms uh, complement both of them. Um, their only
concern has been for our safety. uh they have worked uh with us uh and we have worked with them and we have had several uh you know large demonstrations that largely went off uh without a hitch and uh a lot of that I do I believe I credit
to uh the chief and to lieutenant. So, I just want to say thank you. >> That being said, uh Mayor Patillo, um on December 30th, uh when the news broke, uh you made a statement uh before uh your council meeting in which you said that you had reached out to uh various
law enforcement uh senators, congressmen uh and um that most of them had responded that they had no information. and you said that Andy Kim did not respond. Uh the following week you made a similar statement. Uh and my question my first question is how did who uh is
it that reached out to these various agencies and political uh you know uh senators and how was that email? Was it a phone call? How was that achieved? >> Uh my communications were made mostly by phone call. >> Okay. So it was you who made the inquiries? >> I didn't make inquiries to everybody.
Our township manager also made >> Okay. Thank you. And uh those were by phone as well when you made the inquiries >> by phone and email. >> Okay, thank you. Um at the time on uh January 7th uh it was still uh
unconfirmed. So it was a rumor. Um so my question for you uh Mayor Patillo is um you had uh said that you reached out to these various uh people and groups and they didn't have information.
Uh since then of course we've gotten confirmation of the address. We know it's a fact. And my question is has any politician on local, county, state or federal level offered assistance? and if so, who and what assistance and what was
your response? >> Uh, currently, like I mentioned in my statement, we work with Senator Booker. He has come here and uh likes to stay engaged with us um and talk with ICE on our behalf. Um I have I'm still waiting
on response from Congressman K, but he's waiting on a response as well. So, he's waiting for response. Um, Senator Kin has been in contact, but we're working with Booker. Um, so he's supporting Booker on that to my my
understanding. Um, Sheriff Ganon is still unaware and has not been made um um privy to any information that the federal government may have um in their
>> So, so just to be clear, you are working with Senator Booker on this matter. >> Senator Booker has been to the site and and he has received our concerns. >> That isn't answering my question. Are you working with him? Is he working with
you to try to >> working with Roxberry on behalf? >> Okay, that's what I wanted to clarify. All right, those are those are my only questions. Thank you. >> Hello, mayor and council. My name is Maryanne Malo. I live in Bud Lake, New Jersey. So, bordering right up here. We spend a lot of time in Rox.
>> I'm sorry, Mary. Could you just say last name again? >> Malo. M Ah L A. >> Thank you. Um, by the way, I I just want to thank you all for work and the police department for working with our group in
keeping everything safe and hearing our concerns and taking the time. I'm in possession of a letter from the town of Mary, New Hampshire, who is all who are also a location of one of the proposed ICE detention facilities. Um, this is a
letter that that their uh town council wrote to Christine Gnome. Um, I'm just going to read a part of the letter that I think is pertinent and then I'm going to ask you a question. If if an ICE processing center is established within the town, potential difficulties and
civil protest would necessitate our police and fire rescue department services. Again, there is potential for financial impact upon those departments and their budgets. As a result, this town council is against the establishment of an ICE processing
center based upon the affformentioned financial impacts and concerns to our budget. My question is is would the Roxberry Town Council be willing to draft a similar letter to Miss Gnome on
behalf of the town of Roxberry stating, you know, the resolution that you passed and that these are your feelings directly to her to express your concerns. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Allison
Salsbury, 44 Ununberg A, Sakasana. Um, I've been a resident of Sakasana for five years now and I'm grateful to be putting down roots in our town. I've come this evening to encourage our town to consider adopting an ordinance to
prohibit any sort of detention or correctional facilities in town and adopt that into our zoning law. Thank you. Can we just clarify that? So, >> so currently
our zoning ordinances list what is prohib what is permissible in that location, right? Per zone. So, if it doesn't list it, it automatically makes it prohibited as a use in that zone. So, there's no reason for us to
rewrite it at this time and that our our attorney will will clarify everything. I'm trying to say as simple as I don't understand at this point in time. There's no reason for us to rewrite any ordinances because they are they already protect us.
>> Good evening. My name is Bria Thots. I live at 64 St. Mary's Drive in Sakasana and I've been a resident of Roxberry for 13 years. I was planning on coming here tonight since last week um to address you, but I feel like it's even more important after this past weekend. Um you've been hearing all of the reasonings from residents about why this
proposed detention center is not good for our town. And I think that you've come out and you've said the strain on our emergency services, water, sewer, traffic, uh road safety, and you've acknowledged those and I appreciate that. Um but we're at a really extremely crucial moment in the history of our town and in our country right now. and
you're all elected as Republicans in a mostly conservative town. Um, and you've had enjoyed pretty quiet terms on this council for quite a few years. You didn't ask for this. You didn't ask for this big monument monumentous thing to happen in our town, but we're here now.
And I think we need to be really, really clear about what we want for this town because it is going to reflect on us >> as a community and it's going to reflect on every single one of you. Um, council meetings used to be a half hour. Now they're pushing to. You didn't ask for
that, but we're here. Um, you've heard from countless residents who are against it, and I honestly believe that the majority of our town are against it. The small minority that are for it, they're sitting behind their screens right now writing vile comments on tapping to rocks by articles. They're not in front of you. They're not filling up this room
like all of these people are. Um, the proposed detention center will absolutely leave a black stain on our town, on our community, and on your legacies. And there's no amount of township appearances and selfies with residents that can take that away because this is your defining moment. This is our defining moment right now.
Um, you can be a Republican and be against what is happening. You can support immigration laws and be against how they are being enforced. It's time to work across the aisle, which mayor you did say was happening and I appreciate that. But I really think it's time to come out and be very, very
transparent about that and how we are working together with all of the politicians in our state, all of the leaders in our state to put our foot down against this. Um, warehouses are meant for items, not for people. Our streets are to be patrolled by our incredible police force who know our
residents and who know how to deescalate situations, not by not by untrained posers. Our bus stops where children wait for school need to be safe places, not dangerous zones of abduction. So I implore you, I really really beg you
that it's time to do more than just saying this is not a good idea. It's time to do more than just passing a resolution, though I appreciate it and I want to acknowledge that. um because this isn't our who we are as a community and it's not who we are as a country either. Jackie, I've seen you reading to kids in the library and I've always been
jealous of your headings. So, just gonna say that. Uh Fred, I've heard how you're such a level-headed person. You support our rec department and our fire department, which I appreciate greatly. Um, I'm just hoping that one day this can be a distant past. But if we don't
do something about it, if you do not do something about it now, something strongly against this now, it's going to leave a black stain on our community and it's going to leave a black stain on your legacies. So, thank you for your time. Well, that's a tough act to follow,
but I'm going to give it a shot off the cuff. Kenneth Kenneth Collins, 14 Pine Cliff Road, Newton, New Jersey. Former member of the Roxberry Environmental Action Coalition. Remember the Fenomore Landfill?
>> I was here for that, for all of it. >> I helped lead that fight. Maybe some of you who were here then remember me. That's why I'm here tonight. I'm here tonight because, well, I came actually to honor the life of Alex Bray.
Excuse me. And uh I'm here I'm here to caution you because you're I heard your statement about >> to care about the fourth amendment, the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects against unreasonable searches and seizures. the fifth amendment. And I'm not reading the whole thing, but uh the fifth amendment. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without
due process of law, nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation. The Sixth Amendment. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy
the right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, to be confronted with the witnesses against them, to have compulsory process
for obtaining witnesses in their favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for their defense. And finally, the eth amendment. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel
and unusual punishments inflicted. Do your job. Hi, my name is Artith Collins. I am a Paripony resident. I am a Jersey girl through and through. I love this country and I love Mars County. Alex Prety
should have gone to work today. Renee Good should have taken her child to school today. And another person is in critical condition tonight after being shot in Arizona today. Pepper spray, pistol whipping, and public executions are the work of
tyrants. It shouldn't have to happen to you to matter to you. I asked last week and I will ask again. Have any of you visited Delaney Hall? Maybe you should. Did you know that on January 22nd at the
request of the federal government, Indiana passed House Bill 119, which allows for lethal gas chambers and firing squads? Did you know that executions are also no longer required to occur at state prisons?
The subtext of this means that today a person doesn't need to be imprisoned to be executed by the American government. Indiana, the same state that proudly has the Speedway Slammer Detention Center,
and five other states have already passed this bill into law. We know that short-term ice warehouse facilities are being used as long-term confinement in overcrowded, inhumane conditions. If the fire department is concerned with exceeding capacity
tonight, the irony is is clear. >> This should raise legal and constitutional concerns for every person everywhere. Today on camera, an ICE agent told an observer, "You raise your voice, I'll erase your voice."
Over the weekend, ICE teargassed a preschool. Do not forget that ICE detention centers are moneyaundering schemes, and forprofit prisons and surveillance networks tied to this regime are the only ones benefiting from this, not you
and not me. I will we are here to give you the courage to take a stand and I will reiterate the request for this council to make a strong statement that you do not stand with what ICE is doing to this country.
I asked last week and I will ask again which side are you on? And I promise you this. We will rise with Morris County. We will rise against our foes. We will rise with
all the mothers. We will carry all their woes. We will rise to fight for freedom. We will rise though faced with fears. We will rise against all hatred while our
eyes are veiled with tears. Hi, the Reverend Diana Wilcox. I live in Franen in Sussex County. I also serve on a land use board and I appreciate the time that you all dedicate to the work you're doing here.
But I'm also a priest of the church. I was in Minneapolis on Friday and I can tell you as a citizen, the streets were empty. The businesses were shut down. There were 50,000 people standing
alongside me. That's at a minimum. And that's a -10 degree weather with a windshill factor of -35. If this prison is built here, this town will be shut down. economic consequences
will happen to everyone and a lot of people have talked about that. But I'm also a priest in the Episcopal Church and I don't know your faith. It's none of my my business. I believe strongly in separation of church and state.
However, for those who are followers of Jesus, I remind you that his commandment was to love one another as he loved us. and most especially to read Matthew 25 and remember that what we do to the least of
these we do to him and Jesus is being crucified in the street when Alex was was shot and killed that's Jesus in that pool of blood when good was shot and killed that is Jesus in
that car so if you call yourselves people of faith whatever faith that may be and in particular particular if you call yourselves followers of Jesus. I urge you to listen to him if you won't listen to everyone else in this room. Thank
you. >> Lauren Sang. I'm from Sakana. Lauren >> Sangana. Um I'm not one to stand up here. This is actually my second town hall that I've ever been to. The one was two weeks ago. I've been a resident here for 13 years.
Um, I have two children and I write strongly written emails. I call my representatives every day and it feels like this is the next step, right? It's in my backyard. All that is for New Jersey. All that's for my council, but
this is my backyard. This is where I raise my children. This is where I want to live and retire and live out my days. I don't want to walk my children around worried. have Chinese and I don't want them to worry at school. I don't want to be bullied. I want to walk around here
being proud of my town that I've lived here for so long and I want to support my community and I don't want my children to be in fear and I don't want my myself to be a fear either. I think strongly word letter worded letters are great but this administration it stomps
on them. They don't care. They use them as kindling. They rip them up and they throw them away. I need you guys to get ahead of it and really put your feet down because right now I'm looking at your faces this whole time and I don't see anger. I don't see rage. I just see you guys staring at us and talking like
you've heard it before which you have and you'll hear it again. But I want to see that rage from you guys. I want to see it. I want to know that you guys are going to stand up for us. Thank you. Dan Capasso from 18 Ridge Road,
Sakasana. I ripped my thoughts down so that the anger I feel does not cloud my words. The anger that the council would even entertain the creation of the detention center in our town. In one year, ICE and
CBP have been involved in at least 28 shootings, six in this month alone. Eight of these shootings have led to civilian deaths. This month, we witnessed the extrajudicial murder of Renee Good and Alex Craig. In the past
week, the death of an ICE detainee was ruled a homicide. He was not the first to die at their the hands of federal agents within their concentration camps. We have seen that ICE and CBP do not care who they capture, harm, or kill.
They use children as bait and break into homes without judicial warrants. If you vote to allow the creation of any detention center, you are welcoming state sanctioned violence upon us all. If any of your neighbors are harmed, their blood is on your hands.
Make no mistake, if you welcome fascism into our town, it is only a matter of time before its boot is on your own necks. I see a lot of don't tread on me flags and we the people stickers on cars. If you truly believe that, now is the time
to push back on the tyranny the federal government is forcing upon you and your neighbors. This is your chance to be on the bright side of history. Thank you. Hi, Jody Keagan. Union Brick Road, Blairtown.
Uh it's kind of an unusual position I find myself in because twice in my life I've spent two to four years fighting a quote project and uh and that you know the zoning board, planning board attending all those meetings, but never
once did the committee we had township committees then ever issue a resolution or anything that wasn't like my group's favor. So I feel that we are really ahead of the game. But my question is
>> what's in our tool bag besides the um if it's not a permissible use then it's clearly prohibited. I mean besides that one, what what are the other things
in the tool bag that we can use and are those things that are a tool bag that are in really the planning board attorneys or zoning board attorneys perview? Uh so I'll give another example of what potentially could happen. Uh and I'm not
going to talk about the the righteousness of the cause. I think that's clear from the resolution, clear from everybody who's been talking here. So, I want to get down to the brass facts. What would this committee do if the government decides to exercise, it's multiple words, supremacy clause or the
federal sovereign immunity to try to get this um warehouse converted to a jail? What the attorney is is a is it a lost cause if that happens if the government says
we will be >> I don't want to talk if and when something occurs. >> Okay. All right. All right. Thank you. >> Hi, my name is Sierra Wilson. I'm your Morris County neighbor in Bed Lake. Uh
today I urge you all to as much action as possible to prevent the facility in Roxberry. Whatever you can do besides sign a piece of paper could have a monumental impact to the lives and safety of New Jersey residents because they are coming. They are coming. They're coming for innocent people.
>> Not the answer. >> Can't ask direct question. >> Okay, no problem. Do you want to answer as a group? >> No. Okay. The few times I've heard you speak, you express your priority to protect the safety of Roxberry citizens. I'm struggling to connect the dots between inviting ICE agents to your town
and keeping citizens safe. These agents are unqualified, untrained, and emotionally unstable men, living out their bully fantasies, all the while carrying a lethal weapon. To become an ICE agent, there are no educational work requirements. The physical exam is a kneeland test, the ability to do 15 push-ups in 2 minutes, and a 5minute
cardio test. You don't need to be fit to pull a trigger. ICE officer David Corbell admitted to sexually assaulting a Nicaraguan woman in custody for months at a Louisiana ICE detention facility in exchange for letters and pictures of her daughter. The ICE agent hired lookouts while he raped her over and over in a
janitorial closet. If you want to talk about dangerous criminals walking the street that ICE officer was released on a $10,000 bomb. You're naive to think this won't happen at the warehouse on 46. They tear gas a black family's car in Minneapolis. They tear gas a six-month old baby. A six-month old
baby. This is the party. The pro-life party, mind you, a 21-year-old protester, Kaden Rumbler, holding a megaphone, was shot at close range by an ICE agent, leaving him permanently blind in one eye and nearly killing him in South Carolina. Because of Trump's big beautiful bill, the annual ICE budget is 28 billion. That's larger than the
budgets of the FBI, DEA, ATF, and US Marshall Service and the Bureau of Prisons combined. They have $28 billion for basement dwelling incels to play dress up and shoot at us. All the while, Americans with asthma are dying because they cannot afford their inhalers. We can afford food, housing, healthcare,
but they can afford $50,000 signup bonuses for these scumbags to cosplay and brandish weapons. Let's compare crime rates in the population of undocumented individuals. In 1980, immigrants made up 6.2% of the US population, and the total crime rate was 5.9%. By 2022, the population of
undocumented people more than doubled to 13.9% while the crime rate had dropped to 2.335%. That's more than half. There is no data to support that undocumented individuals are a danger to us. If we want to follow data, there is one demographic that we should look at more closely, and that's white men that look like you and look
like me. Here's some data from crime reports on the FBI website. White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1% of those arrests in 2019. White men also account for most violent crime committed in schools and gang rellated crimes. Immigrants have had lower incarceration
rates than US born for each last 150 years. And today, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than those who were born in the USA. The most violent and dangerous thing to not only our country, but to the globe is white supremacy. White supremacy doesn't exist without violence. European colonizers genocide an estimated 56 million
indigenous people for this land. And now we're trying to pretend like we're the arbiters of who can and cannot be here. Undocumented people are some of the kindest people I've ever known. They would give you the shirt off their back if it was their last one. My friend would work a 16- hour shift and still cook me a meal, and you won't even listen to me for more than 3 minutes. Nine people have already been killed in
Nine people have already been killed at the hands of ICE in 2026. It's the 27th of of January. I see you looking around like I'm crazy for telling you how many people they've killed. We are here standing in front of you providing you indisputable evidence that a federal government is acting in tyranny, abusing human rights of and citizens and
non-citizens alike, executing people in the street and trampling over our constitutional rights as Americans. Roxbury, New Jersey is not immune to what's happening in Minneapolis. Our question is, do you want that blood on your hands? You're welcome. >> I'm Jimmy Pa. Um, I live in Roxbury, 812
Robin Court. Um, I've been coming. >> Sir, could you say your last name one more time? >> Troy P as in Peter. R O I folks moved us here when we were toddlers back in 58. Um, >> I've been sitting here and listening to you guys for the last year and now I'm
You've seen me sitt in the back. I was in the outback today. But um I just wanted to come in and tell you I think you guys are pretty on the level mostly. I'm not going to stand here and lecture you guys. I know that you have TVs. I know you have computers. I know you have smartphones. So you see and know all of
this. Um and a lot of the things that everybody has said really concerns me greatly. What's impact on Roxberry really concerns me. Um one of the things that strikes me is today reading that um is going to be part of the security
detail for Rubio and Vance in Italy at the Milan Olympics. U it's starting to make me wonder what ICE is all about if they're going to be in the security detail and I'm sure that you guys are aware of that and you're starting to wonder yourselves. I guess what my
concern for Roxbury is these guys show up and they put on jackets that say they're police. If you pass any ordinance, say nobody who isn't part of the Roxberry Police Department can wear something that says they're police because I'm a citizen here and when I
see somebody with a police jacket on, I want to know I know who they are and I don't have to worry that I'm going to be shot. Thanks. >> Uh, hi Nate Rodriguez. Uh, landing. Uh, so I mean, everyone here put it better
than me, really. I was concerned when I found out that we were even thinking about having an ISIS 46. >> Like, I I hoped that it wasn't true. I hoped it was a rumor because even the
thought that that was on the table. Yes, I know we've said we're not doing that. But even the thought that was on the table, I don't have words, polite words to describe how disappointed and disgusted I am that that's even a thought in our heads. I know we said no,
but still. Um, so here's the thing. I'm going to keep it short. I've lived in this town for 10 years, over 10 years. I've never missed an election. God forbid we actually do get a nice facility here. You can kiss my vote goodbye and everyone I talk to goodbye
as well. Thank you so much for your time. Um so everyone here is uh >> Hi. Yes. Um my name is Aiden Danfelzer. I'm from uh Rockaway Township. So, it's a bit of a hike, but Morris County, I've
been there for coming up on 13 years now. Um, I I don't think I'm going to put it as eloquently as a lot of people here have, but um, here's what my understanding is that as of today, this council has voted against building
a night's detention center here in Roxbury. That's great. Forgive me if that gives me a little comfort as I watched my leaders make spineless decisions at every step in every level of government, especially since I just paid a little visit to the proposed site of detention center the very morning
after this council voted unanimously against proceeding with it. Call me unsatisfied. He wants to talk about budgetary concerns so I will. The truth is I couldn't find an estimate for how much money would be spent to build and maintain this detention center proposed in Roxbury. I do know that a contract of
1 billion was agreed upon with Geo Group to run Delaney Hall for 15 years. Another source said around 60 million a year. I did the math and that's 90 900 million. So that checks out. I don't know how much a detention facility in this Rockberry warehouse would cost. But I'll tell you this millions of dollars.
We could be funding infrastructure repair and replacement. We could be funding more affordable access to child care. We could be funding efforts to help impoverished and homeless people. We could be working to make utilities less expensive as our newly elected governor seems interested in doing. We could be maintaining hospitals,
counseling centers, schools, places where people are given a chance at living a better life. Or as long as it's proposals being flooded around by DHS and whoever else is looking to make a profit off of it, we could be spending that money to continue fueling and aiding the abduction, detention, abuse,
and murder of people. The majority of them without criminal records or with low-level offenses. quite a number of them, not even immigrants, let alone undocumented ones. I would argue that spending money on terrorizing our communities is not just immoral, it is a bad investment. So, I hope that you will
stick with your current stance on this proposal and not take debate because I want us to invest in making people's lives better here in Morris County, not destroying people's lives. And to quote Dr. King, the time is always ripe to do what is right. >> Thank you.
Good evening. My name is Jennifer Marches. I live at 578 uh US Highway 46 in Kendallville, 07843, part of this great town of Roxbury that we all share. This weekend, I watched footage over and over and over
again of Alex Prey being shot in the streets of Minnesota. He was pepper-sprayed. He was brought to the ground by six people. He was disarmed.
And then he was executed in the streets of Minnesota. I saw that as I watched footage over and over and over and over again this weekend. and I oscillated between absolute depression and fullon rage.
What happened to Alex Freddy was wrong. I know that was wrong because I saw it with my own eyes. Everybody standing behind me or sitting behind me knows it was wrong because they saw it with their own damn eyes.
Most of America and most of the world know that was wrong because they saw it with their own damn eyes. Now, I hope everybody up there understands what happened this weekend was wrong. Our
good people in the badges back here and in town would never do such a thing because they have morals, they have training, and they live to protect and serve Americans
and people who just are human beings living in America. They would never do that because they're disciplined and they're ethical and they respect our constitu constitution and the rights of every human being living in this nation.
Now, I know that was wrong, but I also know so much other stuff is happening that is terribly, terribly wrong. And if I don't speak loud enough and convince enough other people that what's going on is wrong, then the next person
that dies, the next person that's tortured, that's on me because I didn't use my voice to stand up for the next person who's going to die at the hands of our government. And if this ICE
facility comes here and is run by a bunch of untrained, hostile, angry humans that don't have the training and don't understand the Constitution and don't understand human rights or morals or ethics, then somebody here is going
to be tortured and somebody here is going to die. And that is still on me and I don't want to live with that. And these people do not want to live with that. I just hope you guys can live with that if you let it happen. My name is Tom Cotton. I live in
Leedwood. I'm an attorney and father of two Jefferson Elementary School students. I'm also 37 years old. In the past few days, I have seen two other 37year-old Americans gunned down in an American town. And on that, I have
a few brief remarks to the council. I am proud of the council for the its recent resolution and the establish and against the establishment of the detainment facility, but my pride today comes with expectations for tomorrow. I ask that the town council, town officials, and
town professionals ensure the recent resolution is just one step in a zealous campaign against such a facility. I ask that the council never forget who they are dealing with. By that I mean in the past year, we have seen DHS and its agencies repeatedly, knowingly, and
conspicuously act in excess of their powers. DHS and its agencies appear determined to do what they want until courts, legislators, and state and local officials step in. And even then, DHS and its agencies have at times continued
their unlawful conduct in defiance of orders to cease. And so, in closing, I ask that the town council keep all this in mind for their future interactions with DHS. Do not let your guard down and never assume DHS is acting in good faith. To every member of the council,
be ready to use all the powers you know you have, all the powers you think you have, and all the powers you're not even sure you have to stop this facility. Thank you. >> Hi, Diane Hook. I actually came here all the way from Newton. Um, and I wanted to
express that this impact that you will have one way or another is going to impact all of northern New Jersey, including other counties. And when I think about a town council, it's not the first time I've spoken in front of the
town council. I went before my zoning board to ask to run a small dog kennel business at my home and they vehemently told me no. Muster than any of you have said no. to this movement >> and I didn't need to have anybody come
with me to say that they were against my dog kennel. But you have hundreds of people showing up weekly to tell you they're against this ICE facility and I was told no for a dog kennel with nobody standing there saying no from town. So, how you can allow your
discourse to continue without considering that you have this many people on the opposite side of the argument kind of shocks me. And when we think about not just the impact on Roxbury, but all of our surrounding communities, you will not only be known
as the people who did not stop this to Roxbury, but all of northern New Jersey. They will all not only know Roxbury to be the city that allowed this to happen, but also each of your names, that you didn't put your foot down and ask for
more information and question the information. And you don't seem like people who take things at face value, so I hope you don't this time. Um, good evening everybody. My name is Brenda Lozano and I am from Clifton, New Jersey. Um, I wasn't planning on
speaking today, but this is my first uh town meeting. I've never spoken in front of a council before. And um, as you can tell, I am Hispanic and I am the daughter of of an immigrant family. My family has been in New Jersey for, I
say, 30 years now. And my family is nothing but good, hardworking people. And it is disgusting to see how my people are being treated and how other immigrants are being treated. Being treated like worse than cattle. This is
not the New Jersey that I was taught to learn and taught to love and respect. Um I love New Jersey and I don't ever want to plan on moving out of New Jersey. I want to have a family here and have kids and be a mother. But how can I do that
if I live in fear? If I live in fear for my own family, knowing that someone like me or someone like my family can easily be detained and that's it. It's it's disgusting to wake up. And I see so many
I'm 24 years old. I see way too many people my age staying silent. But I will not stay silent because I refuse to allow my generation to suffer of the hands of these people in our government who do not care for us. They don't care
for the American people. And I am not from Roxberry nor from Morris County. I lived in P County my entire life. And I have seen ICE footage in my town, a Hudson County, Essex County, where majority of those towns are immigrants
or family or people who are US citizens but have immigrant families. And it is terrifying to know that there is a possibility of of a ICE facility being built in this town. And the first day that I heard about it, I just couldn't
believe it. I thought not my states, not my beloved New Jersey state. So please, I ask you to wake up and just listen to us and see that we are living in fear. And I don't want to live in fear anymore. That's ridiculous. This is the
United States. Isn't this the the land of the three, the free, and all of these opportunities because it doesn't feel like it. So please, I ask you as a concerned resident, as a concerned daughter, and as a concerned Hispanic woman herself, please, I ask you with
your hearts, do something about this. But really do something about this. Thank you. >> Woods in a smaller town like ours. >> While I appreciate the council for passing that resolution two weeks ago, what is essentially a strongly worded
letter isn't going to stop this administration from doing what it wants to do. I understand that as Republicans, you all support enforcing our immigration laws. I do, too. I suspect most people in this room do. But the problem lies with how they're going about it. Obama deported over 3 million
people during his term, but followed due process and actually prioritize those with criminal records. Despite what Trump says, 70% of those deported under him have had no criminal convictions. Several hundred were even deported to El Salvador's terrorist prison that have been credibly accused of torture. I
myself was a registered Republican before Trump turned the party on its head. I changed my affiliation to Libertarian the second he won the primaries back in 2016. But the Republican party I remember would be disgusted what is happening today. We have an undertrained masked
and militarized federal police force grabbing people off the streets to check their papers, violating fourth and fifth amendment rights, claiming federal immunity when they unlawfully detain US citizens, or as we've seen recently, shoot them to death in broad in broad daylight.
What happened to the party of Reagan? He viewed illegal immigrants as hardworking, productive members of society that made the US better. So much so that you signed a bill giving three million of them legal status. So what I'm asking of the council is to be Reagan Republicans on this issue. Use
the power we gave you to put up any and every roadblock possible to at least delay, if not outright, deny this plan from ICE moving forward. Thank you. My name is Rebecca. I will get 110 Kendall here in Kendall. Um, not going
to be nearly as eloquent as some of the people who've spoken before me. Phenomenal, phenomenal job. Um, I went to Roxbury High School. I've lived back in town for nearly six years now. I don't want to be here talking to you
tonight about this. Um, but my heart and my mind are so heavy with what's happening in our country. I'm horrified and I'm scared. I cannot stand by and watch this play out without speaking up. We need you to
actually do something to stop ICE from setting up shop in our town. If these thugs are comfortable executing US citizens in broad daylight, I cannot imagine the horrors that are happening behind closed doors in a proposed facility like this one.
The presence of ice brings nothing but terror and trauma, and I don't want that for my community. To quote Mark Twain, "Action speaks louder than words, but not nearly as often. Will you have the courage to act, or will you roll over and just let this
happen to our town? I understand you mentioned that, you know, if something is not explicitly stated in the zoning ordinance that it is by default excluded, but please go go out of your ways and just make it explicit. I think that's what we're all
looking for is just a confirmation on that. You've shown us you can talk the talk with this ordinance opposing the facility. We need you to stand up and walk the walk. Say it with your chest. 10 toes down. If
you really oppose this, take action. I implore you to change our zoning as soon as humanly possible. If you truly oppose this ICE detention facility coming to Roberry, take this facility and anything like it, including any
correctional facility, off of the table right now and for the future. This is an emergency that demands urgency from our elected officials, including you. Do not wait until it's too late. Just do
what's right. If I were in your seat, I would have done it already. Thank you. Hello. Um, my name is Peter Bonamo. I live at 522 Curtis Road in Landing. Um, so I've been a Roxberry resident for 32
years. I grew up in Little Berkshire Valley. I went to Roxberry High School. Um, and now I live in Landing with my wife. Um, I also don't want to be here tonight, but when I heard about this potential ice facility in this community, I became incredibly concerned. Um whether you're a
Republican, Democrat, independent, or you don't care about politics, um I think we can all agree, unless you have your head buried in the snow, that the way these immigrants are being treated in these detention facilities is incredibly inhumane. It's disgusting.
And I don't want our town and our community to have anything to do with that. One day, one day, history is going to reme remember this time. And I want this town to be on the right side of it. So please anything you can. I know we talked about, you know, concerns about
the the impact on our roads, our police, our fire, but I'm talking about we have a moral imperative to resist this in any way we can. So, please do the right thing. Thank you. Good evening. My name is Michael Anthony
and I'm a resident of Landon. This town has been my family's chosen home since 1976. I come here this evening to speak about the largest single threat to this community, the possible location of a DHS processing center. Since the
discovery of a federal government's intent to use an existing warehouse on Route 46, I'm no longer convinced that Roxbury can offer the safety we have come to know. My question for this council is very simple.
Beyond issuing a resolution, what are you willing to proactively do to prevent this unwelcome intrusion in our community? Waiting for the federal government to take more concrete steps, as some have
suggested, is in my opinion appeasement. And as the world has seen before and more recently, appeasement is weakness that leads to failure. Let me put this in very clear terms. I do not want Roxberry to be the next
Minneapolis. I do not want to see roadside memorials to US citizens shot by illtrained agents. Nor do I want this town to be referred to as the next Owens Valley Reception Center, which later became
known as Manzinar, an internment camp for so-called others. Then they were Japanese Americans. Today, it's not just violent criminals who should be arrested and prosecuted according to due process, but also
anyone with an accent or darker skin that the federal government declares unfit to exist in our country. Finally, you should be very concerned about the economic impact t on tax revenues if this facility
proceeds. Who will want to move into a community with a massive prison. What will happen to the value of homes that residents wish to sell? What businesses will want to invest in a town that hosts the prison? If you think you
have a tax revenue issue now, just wait until there are DHS and ICE vehicles on the streets of Roxberry and agents scouring the fast food places along Route 10 and Summit. So, Unless this town wants to have a
historical marker indicating that an internment camp existed here, I again ask, what are you going to do to stop this? Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Donald Danford
and I live in Hopacon. 10 years ago, I had the joy of moving out of my home state of Ohio and now call New Jersey home. Roxberry's economy depends on local businesses, families choosing to live here, and people feeling proud to spend
their money here. Facilities like this one are controversial, and controversy has real economic consequences. We've seen in other towns and states that protests, boycotss, and negative attention can drive customers away from local shops and restaurants, businesses
that have no say in this decision, but would ultimately pay the price. If even a small percentage of residents or visitors choose not to spend their money here, that hurts workers, owners, and tax revenue. So, my question to the council is simple. What is Roxberry
truly gain economically from this facility? and how does that possibly outweigh the very real risk to our local businesses, our reputation, and the long-term civility of this community? This next part is more to the people in this room. We have an ethical
responsibility, and we all have weapons. That weapon is our wallet. My suggestion is to people in this room, outside of this room, that until this council does the right thing, use that weapon. Don't buy things in Roxberry.
Thank you. Uh today I urge you all to take as much action as possible to prevent the facility in Roxbury. Whatever you can do beside sign a piece of paper could have a monumental impact of the lives and safety of New Jersey residents because they are coming. They are coming.
They're coming for innocent people and they're coming for Rox. I actually wrote this speech a week ago before another innocent life was taken, but now the death toll has increased. So yes, they are coming. They were here. You spoke to them. They're coming for your loved ones. And if not your loved ones, then
they're coming for your constituents. You should be scared because if it were about not paying taxes, ICE would not be using tax records to kidnap people. If it were about the legality of citizenship, ICE would not be showing up at visa appointments. If it were about
saving lives, they wouldn't be murdering nurses. They wouldn't be kidnapping immigrant nurses off the Hacketttown Hospital floor. If it were about criminal records, ICE would not be kidnapping children or posting outside of schools or churches. If it were about morality, Renee Good, Alexi, and so many
more would still be here. These are your constituents. These are your neighbors, friends, loved ones that will be stored in a warehouse. Yeah. Stored. Not kept in a warehouse. Not uh not housed in a warehouse. They're
stored as if they're pieces of paper. as if they're packages, as if they're not human. I previously wrote that ICE has a vendetta against black and brown individuals, which make up a good portion of New Jersey as a whole. But as we've seen in the last few weeks, no one is safe. It is your responsibility to
protect your community. You say safety is the top priority, and you speak about neighbors helping neighbors. So, I demand that you all extend this belief that you've spoken about tonight to all residents. So, please do more. do all that you can because your town, your
neighbors are counting on you. Thank you. >> Hi, Kevin Hoops, Mount Arlington. Um, I wasn't planning on speaking tonight, so this will be a little on the fly, so apologies for that. Quick procedural question. Are you guys planning to address anything after the second public comment, or should we not be expecting
that? And I know you don't have to answer anything, but I'm pretty sure you can say anything you want. You can talk as much as you want. I've been to other town council meetings. Okay. So, just to clarify what I heard, I was over in the overflow room. Uh you don't have to answer questions like I
just said, but you can choose to. And what I think I heard was an opportunity for an incredible layup for any one of you to just speak out and say the killing of Alex Perry was unjustified. All you had to do is say yes, agree. >> None of you did that. You could
I would also like to give you the opportunity to speak. I know you don't have to answer questions. How hard have you tried to get in touch with Tom King Jr.? >> I know he's famously unreachable, but and one more opportunity for you guys. This is not pressure. This is a gift of
an opportunity for you. Um, I would love to hear as one of the uh speakers just before asked, how much work, how much have you guys talked with the town attorney, the land use board coming up with scenarios, uh, ideas, gaming out
plans, roadblocks, ways to prevent things that are maybe, let's say, creative or whatever, what have you. You understand what I'm trying to say? You feel like just saying anything right now, you totally could. Uh just because you don't legally have to answer me
right now doesn't mean your silence is going unnoticed. Thank you. >> Dante Mansy live over in Sakasana. Been here for a year but we've been patronizing Roxberry. I'm from Sussex County. Country boy. Been down here for about 10 years. My wife's from um
Randolph. So, she's patronized Roxberry her whole life and uh introduced me to Horseshoe Lake and all the beautiful people in in uh this town and it's been awesome. Ham radio operator and uh you know used to hang out with Split Rock Club and lots of Republicans in there and and I'm you know totally a lefty and
we used to hang out you know especially we used to have these 24-hour operating uh gigs over in over in the park there at Horseshoe and we'd spend late nights just talking normal casual politics. uh you know both sides of the aisle and everybody is a whole lot closer than uh
the media wants us to think we are. And I really implore all of you sitting here to make a statement because uh I spend my working hours trying to remind people that National Fire Protection Agency standards and codes are a thing and
pertinence to generators and uh no one seems to listen. No one cares about standards, codes or anything. Especially the federal government right now. It seems like they just walk around doing whatever they want. So please, I implore you to put out a statement publicly that says, you know, Township of Roxberry, no
ice. Thanks. See you later. This is who we are. Thank you. >> Hello, Green from Montigue in Sussex County. Um, I know that it must be uh frustrating for you guys to listen to all of these people and you've said over
and over again that there's nothing that you guys can do. It's already an unpermitted use. Um, but couldn't they apply for a zoning variance that would allow them to open the facility? >> I'm not going to speak for the zoning board, but it would be up to the zoning board if they apply.
>> Okay. Um, but it's still something that they can apply as for a zoning variance. Um, you've said that you're working with Senator Booker. Um, but I've spoken with Senator Kim's office and they said that they've reached out and that you have not replied. >> That is absolutely a lie. Absolutely
replied. >> Okay. Well, I'm I'm talking to the state >> director of his office. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. So, I will then I will touch base with Ben Giovine and I will ask him um and just to clarify that he said he said
that you did not respond. So, absolutely. >> All right. Okay, then I will clarify with his office. Um, but I would also encourage you to look to Kansas City, Missouri. Um, they were also uh on the list for getting a ICE detention facility. I don't know if you've looked into
>> Just to clarify, >> Senator Kim did not. His staff reached out. >> Yes. And that's who I'm talking. Yeah. Senator Kim's staff >> reached out and they did not >> He did not. So, >> okay. His office reached out and you did not reply. >> I absolutely
>> Okay. >> Absolutely. I I will double check that. Um I'm saying look to Kansas City, Missouri. They passed a 5-year moratorum on the opening of any prison facility not operated by the city as an option. Um we ask you to consider
all tools and all options. Not just work with Senator Booker, but also work with Senator Kim. Also keep reaching out to to to Keen. Um but also considering these additional actions, right? The moratorum, uh looking at zoning
variances, you can't just say that there's nothing that you can do just because it's an unpermitted use. There's plenty of things that you guys can do. And I said it before and I'll say it again. You guys don't want this facility. We don't want this facility. We're all on the same team. So, I would
appreciate more respect and for you guys to take this a little bit more seriously when people are up here expressing their concerns and and everything. You know, it's we all we all care. We don't want
this to happen and there are tools that you can utilize to stop it. So, I just ask that you do everything in your power. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. My name is Megan Dre. I'm
10 Hemlopane planners here in Roxbury Township. I just have a quick question, not for an answer, for something for you guys to think about and kind of obviously I'm concerned about the facility, but I feel like everyone before me has spoken way more eloquently than I would on that. I just have a
general question. ice coming to our town in general. Um, I had heard a rumor that ICE was at the one of our schools. I reached out to the superintendent who got back very quickly and told me that was just a rumor that they were not there. I also talked to the principal who said the same thing. But it got me
scared. What happens when they come? Has there been conversations between the mayor and the council in coordination with the superintendent, in coordination with our police chief about what we're going to do to keep everyone you're safe and what the protocols are. Is there at
any point going to be like a community safety meeting where instead of us talking to you, you are talking to us about what our rights are, what safety procedures are, if ICE comes, can we call Roxbury police, what can we do? Um,
when I did speak to the superintendent, he said for a conversation last year, the rules would be icled to the police department. Serves that weren't there before going to any schools, but we're watching people being murdered in the streets. Are they really going to be doing that? Um, you did say there was
talk about some extra security around like PTA events and fun events and things after the school to make sure no one's in the parking lot. Um, so while I appreciated how quickly he got back to me, it scared me that any of this could be happening and I know there's
conversations about it, but are there concrete conversations about keeping people safe and is there going to be any plan to communicate that back to us? >> Thank you. >> Thank you for public. Thank you very >> good evening. My name is Broo Donaldson.
I live in Long Valley. Uh but Roxberry is my backyard. Uh I have two 20-month-olds. We are members of New Jersey Swim and Landing. We love attending shows at the Roxberry Arts Alliance. We have taken our two kids to the Horseshoe Lake complex many times
for walks and all sorts of weather. Um, we love meeting up with friends with their babies at either Beanbury or Roosters. Um, so suffice it to say, we are integrated in this community and sensory play at the library is one of our favorite Saturday activities and we
thoroughly enjoy going to mama's play. That being said, if an ICE detention center is here, Roxberry becomes the backyard for ICE. And our kids are going to have to understand as we are raising them that
the golden rule, which maybe if you need a refresher, is do unto others as you would have done unto you, might not apply to our neighbors and our friends in Roxberry. and maybe we can't go to Roxberry anymore to enjoy the wonderful
benefits that you all have for your community. So, I implore you to consider what are we teaching our kids? What is the narrative that we're going to tell our friends and our families about Roxberry in the future? Thank you.
>> Close the public. We have an executive session. >> We do, Mr. Mayor. We have two items to discuss. Privilege litigation. >> There will be no further action. A resolution of the township council of the township for Roxbury in the county
of Morris, New Jersey, authorizing the conference of the township council of the public exclusive. Whereas it is deemed appropriate the township council discuss the matter here and after mention without presence of the public in accordance with the provisions of RS technical and 4-20 B being section B of
the open public meetings act now therefore be it resolved that the town of town the patch of roster matters relating to attorney client privilege potential litigation and litigation Hercules shall be discussed by the town of council without the
presence of the public >> favor we're going to step out and head into executive session in the other room. We will not be taking action in that in that room. Uh we should probably be about 20 minutes or less. Uh and then when we come back, we are not
anticipating any further action and we will adjourn the meeting.