Call the meeting to order. Roll call. Councilman Simaluca. Councilman Simaluca is unable to be here this evening. Councilman Akamando here. Councilwoman Sanchez here. Councilwoman Mer here. Council President Garrick here. Please rise for the salute to the flag and
remain standing for a moment of silence as we recognize National Peace Officers Memorial Day. I pledge alce to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands
nation for all. Adequate notice of this meeting has been sent to all council members and to all legal newspapers in accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act chapter 231 public law 1975. The public is hereby advised that
any statements made during a meeting of the township council of the township of Saddlebrook may not be privileged or protected and have persons or entities who take issue with such comments or are offended by saying may and have in the past or legal redress through the courts. Any member of the public who
addresses the council speaks for themselves and not for the council. Motion to open the meeting to the public. Motion second. All in favor? I. The meeting is open to the public. Please step up to the microphone. State your name and address for the record.
Thank you. Good evening. Thomas Van Winkle, 128 Lincoln Avenue, Saddlebrook. Um, just want to bring you up to date on the mayor's youth group on what's been happening and what we've been doing over the last month. Um, we helped out with the Easter celebration that was held
here in the municipal complex. It was a great success. We had many um, families out here who came out. Um, we had people donate to the food pantry. We we had the crafts from the library. We had the a garden and of course the Easter Bunny. So, we had the youth group helping out
in all different areas in all those different areas at the Easter celebration. And I do want to thank all the volunteers who came out and made that a success. Also, during the month of April, well really actually it was supposed to be the month of April, but then it wound up being the first Saturday in May due to weather. The
mayor's youth group did an Earth activity. Again, it was still on May 3rd because we had to, you know, we had to move it due to inclement weather. We cleaned up Tsentennial Park. We planted flowers around the flag pole. Also, I want to thank the DPW for planting the
tree from that we had for our town at Vanson Park for the winter wonderland. Um also we had great collaboration from the Sabra Girl Scouts because they helped us we with them also painted rocks and we placed rocks um in the um
been the flag garden and also around the big rock there in in other areas in tsentennial park. So it was great collaboration, great partnership um between the mayor's youth group and the girl scouts and I just want to thank all them for all their help. Looking
ahead, we're going the next thing we're going to be involved with, as you we usually do, we usually invite the youth group to help out and participate in the annual fishing derby, which will be held in June, which I'm sure the mayor will talk about possibly. Um, so you know, we
we just and we've been getting a lot of in closing, I want to say we've been getting a lot of new members joining the youth group as of late and I'm hoping we could continue to grow and continue to get uh keep that strong foundation and continue to mentor young people and encourage community service. So, thank
you. Thank you, Thomas. My name is Lori Lowry. I live at 29 Caldwell Avenue. Um I'm not I have put a lot of time into Saddlebook over the years. I've served on the school board. I've taught in town. I've worked at the
library. And now I am a senior residing in the senior housing. Uh I just I am here to advocate for our seniors. Um, when the senior center was open, I
don't know if the council was aware or not, but in the office and in the back there were wheelchairs available in case there was an issue with any of our seniors. I don't see that here. We have
many programs bringing seniors here more than ever. And if anyone falls, who's liable? That long wall from the
gym? What would it cost to put a railing there for those who come in with canes, walkers, oxygen, who are not steady on their feet? Just that safety. We have it at 29 Caldwell. you're
welcome to come over everywhere. We are ADA compliant and I feel that Saddlebrook is not ADA compliant for our seniors and that's a law. The same thing if you put a wheelchair
in that uh back room in the community room just in case someone has an accident or an incident there is one available.
But I really think that uh taking the ADA compliance into effect or thinking about it is to Saddle Brook's benefits. I thank you for your time. Thank you, Miss Lowry. I'd like to address that.
Sure. Um as far as the wheelchairs, they were taken here. They're probably in that closet. I I would I would bet dollars the donuts. and stitchers our factory. Yeah, I I
because I remember seeing them and we said we were going to take them. We probably have them. I I don't know that for a fact, but we we'll look into that. I mean, I I can't imagine we would have thrown them out. But Karen and Rose should know where they are. Yes. Um the long walk from the gym, you know, we're
addressing that now. We And you spoke to I think I spoke to you about that. I don't know if I spoke to you or I spoke to at the advisory meeting. Yes. Um we are looking into that. Um we asked our DBW superintendent to take a look to see if
it's something that that you know his his uh people could do and uh it's a little more involved. So we're going to have to go out to to bid with the DBW. I just don't want them to do something that if they can't do it properly. What about the um
All right, we we're going I think Jimmy, we we're getting prices, aren't we? Correct. Yeah, I asked um Bobby to quote um both walls, even though I understood that that may not be exactly what we're looking for, but at least we'll have it priced out both ways to one or both walls, even though we would be if you're
walking in on the right side. I'm not sure honestly whether I don't think we're not in compliance, but uh you know, we'd have to have that looked at, but I I think when the I know when the when the building was was built and uh you know,
the renovation was done, I'm I'm sure we had to pass all those laws. I mean, you know, it was just two years ago. But I think if you looked at the if you go back to if you go back to that old building, I think there may be a couple
of things that we may or may not have been in compliance with either, but um at a smaller scale we we'll we'll look at the long walk is is what you're kind of driving at, I think. But uh no, we we are we are looking into all those
things. So, thank you for coming in and advocating for them. Thank you, mayor. Anyone who else wish to address the council? How you all doing? Timothy Stuntton 35 Harrison He just want to know where we
stand on the street decisions that have been made last time at the workshop. You said a uh committee was going to be formed. I want to know if committee has been formed and who's on the
committee and if that property is for sale, how come there isn't a commercial real estate for sale sign there? As I remember last time you were saying that not getting much interest in
the property. So I drive past there a million times a week. I've never seen a sign that says commercial real estate for sale. Put a sign there. Maybe you would
get more people interested. We just we just put it out again. Our RFP which basically is goes out. It's been put in uh a a few different publications. I I think the record and
Jimmy Yeah, I could chime in. Um we readvertised in the record and the star ledger. um just this week. Um and that is um at least the record is our designated newspaper where we have to require required by law to advertise
these types of um advertisements, right? But you were saying last time during the workshop, you're not getting much interest in the property. If you had a realer involved, put a sign on the property, maybe you would get more interest in the property. All that's all I'm saying. And if a committee was
formed, I just like to know who was on the committee. Well, the committee is uh myself, um Council President Dave Garrick, and Councilman Andrew Simaluca. That's the committee. Um we have not, as far as I know, spoken to the developer
that came here to did do the proposal, but uh you know, we we are still we are still looking to talk to that person, the one that with that the one that came in. Yeah. because I mean we we want to see if he's willing to change his proposal perhaps less units perhaps
maybe spread it out so I know height the height was a big thing right but I know he also we put it out we put it out again we're hoping to get other proposals so no decisions been made okay that's all I'm asking but I know that developer said if he can't do the project the way it is then he's not
going to do the project well he said that but maybe he'll change his mind you know if we talk to him so I'm It's a negoti. It's a negotiator. No, I have no problem. Well, you can ask anything you want. And I forget. I think it was Mr. Akamando. He was the one that volunteered the only one that
volunteered to be on the committee and he got passed over for it or Well, you know, you know, I'm not I really feel like I need I'm just I'm just curious. I really don't feel like I need to explain that much in detail. No, you know what? Mr. Dragamundo was on a couple of other
committees and uh I know I understand that but he was the only one during the workshop that voiced his opinion that said he would volunteer for it. So if he vol was willing to volunteer for it, how come he wasn't he was passed over or maybe he declined to do it. I don't
know. But I'm just asking. Sir sir, to be honest with you, everybody up here volunteered to be on that committee. Not at that workshop. Well, they came up to me after the meeting or during the meeting. You don't hear everything that's said up here. And in fact,
Councilwoman Sanchez said during the meeting I would volunteer. I did too. And so did Councilwoman Maser just to let you know. All right. I'm just asking questions. Yeah, that's all. As a resident, that's all. Right. Well, the committee doesn't make the decisions either. I understand that. So, the
committee has to come back for a vote. I'm just asking a question. That's all. Oh, okay. That's fine. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. There can only be two council members on the committee because otherwise you have a quorum and the meeting has to be advertised. So there's
only two council people that are allowed to be on the committee. Just so you're aware. Okay. Anyone else wish to address the council? Seeing no one else, motion to close the meeting to the public. Motion second. Second. All in favor? I I
uh mayor. Thank you. Uh I have a proclamation that I want to read. Uh it's in regard to in honor of Captain Andrew Bruce McFarland, US Marine Corps 1948 to 1971. Whereas the township of
Saddlebrook recognizes and respects numerous veterans for their contributions. The late Captain Andrew Bruce McFarland is one veteran who is an inspiration through his demonstration of courage, leadership, and commitment to our community and
country. The Mcfarlland Circle dedication is located at Fairlon Parkway in Skilman Terrace. This dedication aims to educate younger generations about the sacrifices made during the Korean War and promote a greater appreciation for
history. Captain McFarland was a decorated combat veteran who saw direct combat in Korea during his service. Captain McFarland served twice in Vietnam. His valiant actions earned him three Bronze Star Medals with Combat V for heroic actions during direct
conflict as well as the Navy Marine Corps commenation medal and combat with combat V. A Vietnamese cross of gallantry with silver star two combat action ribbons. four presidential unit citations, the Korean service medal with
six battle stars, and the Vietnam service medal with three battle stars. After the military his military service, Captain McFarland moved to Saddlebrook in 1972, where he lived with his family for 45 years until his passing in August
of 2017. Captain McFarland worked as an investigator for the Bergen County Prosecutor's Office from 1971 until his retirement as a lieutenant in 1992. Following his retirement, he was a professional baseball scout for the
Cleveland Indians, New York Yankees, and Tampa Bay Devil Rays from 1991 until 2002. Captain McFarland was an active member of the Saddle Brooks community, tirelessly serving as a little league coach, an American League and baseball,
American Legion baseball coach, field manager of the Colonial Baseball Team, and commissioner of the Metropolitan Baseball League. He founded and served as commissioner of the Boys and Girls Recreation Soccer Programs. Additionally, Captain McFarland held
life membership with the VFW Post 3484 and American Legion Post 415 in Saddlebrook along with numerous other military associations. So now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Robert D. White of the Township of Saddlebrook, wish to recognize Captain Andrew Bruce
McFarland for outstanding service to his country and our community and dedicate McFarland Circle in his honor. Thank you. Um, okay. Going to move on to the budget. We will be introducing
next month. Uh, we'll we'll be introducing and then we'll have hearings and adoption afterwards. Um, we're going to do estimated tax bills this this year. Again, we did that same last year. Um, we have three ordinances for second
reading tonight. uh one is up about uniform construction code fees, sewer fees uh is the second one and then the last one is zoning change recommendation regarding resale of new tenant uh resale of homes and new tenant
certifications. Um Karuchi's property, we've been making a lot of progress with that. I know that's been a hot topic around town and we've mentioned here a few times. Um the owner is complying. We've we've actually
gotten into the building which was a lot a big headache to try to get in there with his attorneys and but we were able to uh to get in with our our building inspector and our engineer uh to look at to look inside and see what what we're
dealing with. um a report is going to be uh in pretty soon on that uh regarding the you know what they found during the inspection. Uh I know that uh there is some interest uh a local business person
I don't want to say the name but is interested in purchasing the property and they have been since the town has been pushing them as far as their uh reg you know regulations and um you know that they comply with the ordinances especially regarding
property maintenance. uh we've been, you know, on them for really since the end of last year and uh and then now this uh this buyer uh that's interested in the property. Um so there's been a lot of I don't know if you've seen there's been
uh um they they they've repaired a lot of things on the outside. Uh they're repaving the parking lot. Um, it appears that the person that's interested wants to buy the building and wants to renovate the building. Um, not tear it
down. That's, uh, you know, that's what I'm hearing. So, all this is hearsay. But, it's good that at least we're seeing some progress that there's something going on there besides the building just laying dormant and and in disrepair. So, we're happy about that.
Uh some some some events and happenings this past month. Uh we had a tree planting at Kern Park, excuse me, on Tuesday, April 29th. Uh it was uh the Colombia Bank donated a
tree that was uh was planted there uh for Arbor Day. So I we thank Columbia Bank for that. Also, I also want to thank Lisa Swain and Chris Tully, uh, the assembly members, uh, district 38 for arranging a meeting on Tuesday,
April 29th, here at the municipal complex to explain the various programs, senior, uh, programs, uh, senior freeze, the anchor program in, uh, New Jersey stay. Um, we had a nice crowd here that,
uh, received a lot of good information. I want to thank the mayor's youth group this uh for the spring and Easter celebration that they uh were involved with. Also, um we had planting on Saturday, May the 3, we had uh planting
of at planting and cleanup at Tsentennial Park and I want to thank everybody that was involved in that. Thomas mentioned that. Thank you, Thomas. um of employees participated in a wellness day on Monday, May the 5th. Uh
that was uh I want to thank Dr. Peter Ferrero who uh came in and and ran that uh and did that wellness program for our employees and and uh also provided lunch which was nice that for them to do. Uh we had the first meeting of the green
team uh flood committee was held on May the 6th. I think Dave will probably explain a little more about that in his comments. On May the 10th, the Roma Sager VFW Post 3484 held their installation of officers. I want to
congratulate all the officers, especially the new commander. His name is Jay Y Muller. Um he's taking over for Lou Varelli who was the commander for the past seven years. I want to thank Lou for all his dedication uh during that time. He did an a fantastic job.
Uh today, which is May the 15th, was National Peace Officers Day. Uh we remembered our deceased uh police officers from Saddleberg Police with a ceremony at the police monument, which is still located uh at the old town hall. We got some upcoming events. On
May the 20th is the last day to register to vote for the June 10th primary. Uh clerk's office will be open until 9:00 p.m. that night. Um, Saturday, May the 25th at 10 a.m. is the dedication of McFarland Circle by Weller Terrace and
Skilman Terrace. That was the proclamation that I read. Um, Sunday, May the 26th, Memorial Day services start at um, that's I think it's Sunday, May the 25th. The 25th. Yeah.
Um, Memorial Day services start at 9:00 a.m. Uh, Memorial Day parade begins at 1:30 p.m. on Fairlon Parkway and uh, Skilman Terrace. Congratulations to uh, police officer Sergeant Joseph Cameeri who was named uh, the grand marshal this
year. Uh, he he was he served overseas um, last for a whole year uh, and uh, was actually came out decorated, got a bronze star. So, um, welld deserved. On Monday, May the 26th,
uh, is Memorial Day service observed by the VFW circle at 11:00 a.m. Uh, municipal offices in DBW will be closed for Mon Monday, May 26th. Then observance of Memorial Day section one pickup uh, will be on Friday, May the
30th for um, grass and uh, and weeds and that kind of thing. pickup by the DBW on Friday, June the 6, 7:30m here at the municipal complex outside will be the nerds consc. Uh they have a very big
following, so we expect that we're going to have a big crowd. Um mayor's fishing contest is on June, Saturday, June the 14th, 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. at the lake at the county park. Um registration information will follow.
Uh, town hall and DBW are closed on June 20th for Junth. Thank you. Thank you, mayor. Uh, Councilman Okamando, very much. I just wanted to thank everyone who came up and spoke today. Um, Mrs. Lowry,
um, thank you for bringing that to our attention because I really think that was an oversight on our behalf when doing the building. It wasn't originally thought of to have the senior center here. So, thank you for bringing that to our attention because especially
me, somebody who did handicap ramps for quite a few years, I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't even think of something like that. So, thank you for bringing that up. Um, I want to wish congratulations to all the students, young men and women uh graduating uh colleges uh next this week and next week
and uh just happy Memorial Day to everyone. That's it. Thank you, Councilman. Councilwoman Maser. Thank you, Council President. Um, I'd like to remind everyone this weekend's the townwide garage sale. Hopefully, we'll get some
sunshine. Um, and I'd like to uh since our next meeting is after Father's Day, wish all the dads a happy Father's Day. Right. It's after. Yes. Okay. Very good. Thank you very much. Thank you're welcome. Okay. Uh, Councilwoman, uh,
Sanchez. Okay. So, [Music] um, May is a busy month. Um, in May we have nurses appreciation week, EMS appreciation week, police appreciation
week, and international firefighters day. So, I just wanted to take a second to thank all the nurses, police, fire, and EMS personnel for their hard work, dedication, and service. Um, as Councilwoman Maer stated, you know,
happy Father's Day and um, with Memorial Day weekend approaching, I hope everyone has a nice and safe Memorial Day weekend and um, I hope to see you all at the services and the parade. Thank you, Councilwoman. Um, couple things that I have. Um, on May 6th, we
had our first green team and flood committee meeting. Uh some of the highlights from that meeting is uh about 10 or 12 people showed up. I thought it was a very productive meeting. Uh we spoke about planting additional trees throughout the town. Um we spoke about
rain gardens. Um we spoke about flooding and debris removal uh and addressing some of the sand sand bars possibly at the Saddle River. Um we spoke about creating a mission statement since it was our first meeting. Uh we are getting
more information from surrounding towns that do have green teams. Um we're still looking for additional volunteers. Uh we are collaborating with the community partnership. Uh and our next meeting is June 3rd at 6:30 here at the municipal
complex. So anybody that wants to get involved in our green team flood committee, uh please make every effort to attend on June 3rd at 6:30 here at the municipal complex. Uh, a few other things that I have. Uh, congratulation to all all of our college
grads. Uh, my nephew's graduating. My neighbor across the street who's my godson, he's graduating from college. So, congratulations to all those graduates throughout our township. Um, I want to thank assembly members Chris Tully and Lisa Swain for holding
that um, senior free freeze/stay New Jersey information seminar here. Uh, we had quite a bit of seniors turn out. If you could take advantage of these programs, they're very beneficial. Um, and
they're the the income levels are extremely high, so most people do qualify. One of them is you have to make less than 500,000 a year. The other one's making less than 250,000 a year. So, people that think that they won't qualify, you definitely in most cases
will qualify. Okay. Um, Councilwoman Maer mentioned the townwide garage sale. That's Friday, Saturday, and Sunday from 9:00 to 5:00. Um, I just want to wish um Mayor White and Councilwoman Maser a happy birthday. this is their birthday
month. So, happy birthday to you, too. Uh, and I hope to see all of our residents at the Memorial Day parade and enjoy u the Memorial Day weekend. Thank you. Thanks. Save. Okay. Uh, we're going to move on to our ordinances for this
evening. First reading, we have ordinance an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 82 of the code of the township of Saddlebrook entitled construction codes uniform. If the council has no objection, we could do all three at one one time. Correct. Yes.
U next ordinance is ordinance number 1779, an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 161 of the code of the township of Saddlebrook entitled sewers. And it just clarifies the hookup fees. And the third ordinance is
ordinance 1780, first reading, an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 206 of the code of the township of Saddlebrook entitled zoning and involves resale new tenant certificate and it uh mirrors the wording of the DCA as
required. Before we move on these ordinances, uh Mr. Hamsy, our business administrator, do you have something to add on uh the first uh ordinance? Yeah, at the last meeting regarding ordinance 1778-25, there was uh a couple questions
that uh Councilman Simluke had asked. I spoke with him privately uh regarding the answers to his questions and also wanted to, you know, relay it to the rest of the council um prior to them voting on it. The one question was regarding commercial swimming pools uh
and why it was removed. Um what happened was these have to all these ordinance before they get up here to for uh council consideration have to get approved by the DCA as well. Um and they had caught that it was um it's a duplicate in the health department and
in the um construction code. So they coordinated that the health department will handle uh commercial swimming pools. We'll still receive the um the permit fees and uh they will do the inspections. And the other question was related to the underground storage tanks
um and whether that fee was increased and where um it is within the uh the ordinance. Um the the state uh department of community affairs uh wanted it under under the fire section which is page five and there was an increase in that fee. Um so I just
wanted to let the council know uh because those questions were asked and again I did speak to uh Councilman Sumaluca privately regarding this knowing he wasn't going to be here tonight. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hamsey. Okay. Um mo motion. Motion. Second. Uh all in
favor? I got to do the roll. I'm sorry. Roll call. Councilman Okamando. Yes. Councilwoman Sanchez. Yes. Counciloman Mer. Yes. Council President Garrick. Uh yes. Now therefore it be resolved by the township council that an ordinance
amending and supplementing chapter 82 of the code of the township of Saddlebrook entitled construction code J uniform ordinance 1779-25 an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 161 of the code of the township of Saddlebrook entitled
sewers an ordinance number 1780-25 an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 206 of the code of the township in Saddlebrook entitled zoning here to for pass on first reading be further considered for a final passage at a meeting to be held on June
19th, 2025 at 7:00 p.m. where soon thereafter matter can be reached at the municipal complex 55 Mayill Street and at such time and place all persons interested be given an opportunity to be heard concerning set ordinance according to law with the notice of its
introduction and passage on first reading and of a time and place when and where set ordinance will be further considered for final passage. Motion. Motion. Roll call. Councilman Okcomando. Yes. Councilwoman
Sanchez. Yes. Councilwoman Maer. Yes. Council President Garrick. Yes. Okay. We have the consent agenda. Uh resolution number two. Uh will not be part of the agenda this evening. It was recommended by Councilman Simalucan in
his absence. We will hold that till the next meeting. All items listed with an asterisk are considered routine and non-controversial by the township council and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion on these items unless a council member or member so requests it
in which case the item or items will be removed from the consent agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda. The one motion signifies adoption of all resolutions receive and file letters correspondence reports and approval of minutes and applications.
Motion. Motion. Second. Roll call. Councilman Akamando. Yes. Councilwoman Sanchez. Yes. Councilwoman Maser. Yes. Council President Garrick. Yes. Okay. Okay. Uh, old
business. Any new business? Okay. Motion to open the meeting to the public for agenda items only. Motion. Second. All in favor? I I. Anyone wish to address the council on agenda items?
Seeing no one, motion to close the motion. Second. Uh, all in favor? I I uh any final comments? Mayor. Yeah, I just want to mention uh I want to congratulate all the college
graduates as well. Um but uh today we had the police memorial and uh it came up afterwards that obviously that monument is in front
of 93 the old town hall 93 market. So it's going to have to be moved. Um, and you know, my feeling is it should be at the police station in the front, but it's a very large monument. So anyway, um I think what we're going to do is
we're going to get together and we're going to have a couple of meetings with myself, the chief, um the retired chief Googler, and some of the retired retirees that have a yes, an interest in in where that monument goes and come up
with a plan to move it. I want I want to get everybody involved because it I don't want to insult anybody. We we we did real well moving the uh the war monument which is now in front of the VFW that was uh originally we had spoke
about that and there was some when the council and and I spoke um the plan was to may maybe move it over to uh to Veterans Field because there's monuments there and you know be a decent place in my opinion it would have been a decent
place for it but we got a lot of push back from the VFW so we you know we want to opinions and I think I I think it wound up at the right place, the war monument, but we want to make sure that the police monument ends up, you know, being that we get a consensus that uh
and it gets put in a place that's uh a dignified place that uh that we can we can celebrate every year on the 15th. So, um but I don't know if anybody from the council is interested in maybe taking part in some of those meetings.
Uh if you are if you are just let me know. Um and that's all I have. Yeah. I I I was at the uh the memorial today and I just want to commend the committee. Bobby had a lot of people there that it's it's really a beautiful event each year and it seems like there was a lot
of people this year. Thank goodness the the weather held up because some years it's raining and stuff and people still do come rain or shine, but it's really a great event and there were a few people that uh you know uh go above and beyond for that event and it really was a
beautiful event today. Yeah, it was the families they they really do appreciate it. I mean more than you would even think. I mean, it's uh yeah, when when you talk to them afterwards and it's it's a day for them
to remember their loved one and and you know, it shows that the town is uh you know, still still feels you know, still has uh you know, we we we tribute and in tribute to them. We want to have it every year and recognize what they did
for the town. And and you know, retired Chief Cougler brought it up today that a lot of those, especially the older ones, the ones uh the first ones on the monument that the the first four, I mean, they did it they they
didn't do it for for money and and and benefits because they had basically none back then, you know. They did it out of pride and they did it because they they really cared and and wanted to do it. So, absolutely. And they were, you know, I worked with a lot of them. They were, there was some real old-timers. There
was some really good cops out there that that knew what they were doing and, you know, really cared and and put inund 150% every time. So, yeah. Well, thank you. Nice to see that. Uh, any additional comments from the
council? Okay. Uh, seeing none, uh, motion to adjurnn this evening. Motion. Second. All in favor? I. Thank you very much. I told you.