Everybody sit. Good evening everyone. I'm going to call the meeting to order. Would everyone please stand for a short prayer and salute to our flag? [Music] Almighty God, grant us the wisdom to
make those decisions that are in the best interest of all of our residents. May the heavenly father of us all bless those who have given the ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation. And may he watch over and protect our service men and women now guarding the
gates of freedom. Salute to our flag. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Jessica's statement of publication. Take notice that this regular agenda meeting of the mayor and burough council being held on this 27th day of May 2025 has been posted and advertised in accordance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 public law 1975. Uh roll call. Council persons Bal here.
Helissi here. Novak here. Roberts here. Sarski here. Zabowski here. Council president approval of prior meeting uh minutes. Um, I move the following minutes of the mayor and council be approved on roll call vote subject to correction if necessary the uh May 12th,
2025 regular and agenda session. Roll call. Council persons Roberts, yes. Bala, yes. Kesi, yes. Novak, yes. Dinarski, yes. Zabrski, yes. Okay. All
business. Just want to announce that the 2025 budget approval and public hearing notice had been advertised in the Home News Tribune on May 2nd, 2025, which gave notice of the date and time of this public hearing and put before the council tonight the 2025 municipal
budget resolution 2025-113. Open it to the Okay, at this time I'm At this time, I'm going to open the public portion on the 2025 budget. There is a fivem minute time limit. It's inclusive questions and answers. Jim,
thank you. Mayor Jim Robinson Parl, the last meeting on the 28th, I suggested that the budget be on the front page of the website so residents could easily find it, not have to jump through hoops to find it. I guess that was too much of a too much to ask. Um, I couldn't find the amended budget, so I hope some of
the things I'm going to ask about tonight have been addressed. The resolution says the budget was approved on April 28th. I know it was introduced on April 28th, but I don't know that it was approved. The resolution says it's
being amended tonight. Is that an error? And you can answer that later on. Not at my time. The statute says there should be a presentation of the budget before the vote. Will there be a presentation where the budget will be explained? A
couple weeks ago, um, I asked some questions. Actually, two weeks and a day ago, I asked questions on the 28th and I was told that those answers would be forthcoming within the week. I waited. No answers to my questions on the
budget, mayor. Um, I haven't blocked anybody on my email, so if there were qu if there were answers, um, I would have gotten them. I'd like to know how much will the average serville homeowners taxes increase as a result of this budget. There is probably money, this is
a question, there is probably money in the budget for the firehouse, which I hear will become burrow offices, not an event center or a place for exhibits or lectures or a little bit of culture, god forbid. Um, now the historical society had requested a historical designation
so they can apply for grants to fix up the that building with the exception of Mary and Dan. You refused to do that. So this is a question. So is there money in the budget to restore the firehouse? Money that could have been paid for by grants. And if so, how
much? Pilots. Pilots. Pilots. I came to that hearing a year ago and you told us how great the mega mega warehouse pilots were and how they'd lower the tax burden on ordinary folks. They'd be a real shot in the arm for the town's economy. So, no thank you for the
pilots. We see from this budget that that didn't occur. The mayor and council line item is still up 50,000. Is it still up $50,000 as it was on the 28th? And is that for three, four, five more chiefs of staff for the mayor? And that
is a question. How many new employees are anticipated in the budget? That wasn't filled out on the form that that I saw. That's a question. I'm not going to get into the two burough engineers. We we know that was a political payoff for a Republican county chair. God knows
that that will what that'll cost us. I see that you're going to use $9.4 million in surplus this year. That is $2 million more than last year. Last year I think it was about 7.2 million. So
instead of cutting, you're just taking more surplus. And that surplus, so that everybody knows was built up over years and years and years and years. That's where that surplus comes from. Trash collection for the new apartments. Is it still up to $700,000? And that's I assume that's
increases because of all the new apartments in town that that you approved under the COA agreement. Mayor, the school crossing guards, are they still down $90,000 with all the new traffic funds for the people who help ensure our kids' safety? I'm not so sure that should be
cut. That's a question. The birthday lunches the mayor hosts for seniors at the active adult center, do they come out of that budget? That's a question. And I noticed that you cut the office on aging budget by $50,000 in the budget that we saw two weeks ago. Is that still
the case? That's a question. I also noted when I went through the BIC for the longest time BIC the contributions to BIC have been $20,000. That group does an amazing job for residents of Saveville who need a
little extra help. Brain injured children still $20,000 after all these years. If there was ever a group that deserve more money, it's this one. Can't the BIC donation be increased? And my final question, mayor, is this. I know
how pilots helped and tax abatements helped mega warehouses, friends, and contributors. How does this budget help the ordinary taxpaying residents of Saraveville? And that's a question. How does this budget help seniors on fixed incomes, those 70-year-olds who aren't
still working, pulling in $150,000 a year from the state? And I mentioned that the office on aging was cut by $50,000 at least by the budget I saw on the 28th. And how does this budget help young families just starting out, people
who really need some help and can't afford a tax increase? So, I hope uh you'll answer those questions and maybe even the questions that I asked two weeks ago that I was told I would the answer to would be forthcoming. Thank you. Should I sit here or should I stand
here for the for the answers? No. Someone will get back to you. You'll answer them when I sit down. Someone will get back to you. Mayor, nobody gets back. That's a lie. Nobody got You said that last meeting and nobody got back. Jim, please take your seat. Will you answer questions on
the budget? You can do it during your five minutes. Thank you, Jim. So, this governing body refuses to answer questions on officer. Shame on all. This guy is dying to be taken back to his seat by a policeman. Don't speak to the
mayor. Oh, I will. Uh, are there any other questions on the budget? Why ask questions? You don't young lady. If you continue, Jim, I'll have you removed for disrupting the meeting. Hi, I'm Jennifer Stricka. I live at 25
Sherwood Road in Parland. I just want to know I didn't see um how much it would they with the current budget how much it would be going up per h per household. If you could just wait uh Danielle um it's going to go up about $30 on average for the average assessed home
which is $100. Is that what it is? Something like that. No, $30. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Who Who else had their hand up? Questions? Come on up. Correct.
Okay. And you are anonymous. Who are you? Anonymous. You're anonymous. Yes. Anonymous communications are permissible. All right. Thank you. Um, so I'm against the entirety of the budget. And the reason why I'm against
the entirety of the budget is because of the corruption going on here in Sville. Um, I'm against the budget when I read things in the newspaper such as you you calling members of the public dopey
with no lives. Um, I'm against the budget because currently we have a trial with the, uh, the Serville murder trial of the former council woman. And quite frankly, um, could have been the government,
could have been the possible government that took her out. Um, I'm against this budget because we don't believe that the Middle Sex County Prosecutors is always going after innocent people. So, I believe in order to take the blame away
from who who really did this, um they're going after innocent black man. So, yeah. Uh I'm against the entirety of this budget. Um it's simply no, it's not evidence to be in the same geographical location.
There's no evidence at all. Uh there's no motive. There's no um is this Are you gonna ask questions about the budget or about the murder? I'm explaining I'm making I'm I don't have to ask questions. I can make statements and make statements. Yes, you can make statements why I'm against the budget.
But they need to pertain to the budget. Well, the board attorney Shook has said that I am allowed to make statements why I'm against the pertaining to the budget. For the budget only the budget. Well, I don't want the police department to get $1 while they could possibly be
suspects. That's that's fine. You can say that the murder of the former council woman. Um, so yeah. How much time do I have left? I beg your pardon? How much time do I have left? You have uh just about 3
minutes. 3 minutes. Okay. Minutes and Well, so yeah, it it's a shame what's going on here in Sville. It's a shame what's going on here in Middle Sex County. Middle Sex County prosecutors um want to do with the budget. They take people to trial for constitutionally
protected activities. They they find people guilt innocent people guilty all the time. And when it comes to politically charged, politically motivated cases such as when Governor Murphy said one day after, "Oh, this
isn't politically motivated." How would he know that? Unless Unless the the Democratic committee, the the Republican swamp, they're trying to cover up what they did. They know what happened. You guys know what happened. And quite frankly,
um there's nothing I seen at the trial that that points to the guilt of the young man. Uh no murder weapon. No murder weapon was found. No witness. Um even the Middle Sex County prosecutor. Is this about the budget or about the murder case? You need to stick to the
budget. against that because the Middle Sex County prosecutors this is the municipal budget portion. So you need to municipal I'm against the municipal budget the municipal I'm against $1 going to the police department. Okay, you've made that statement. Do you have a second statement? Yeah, I'm making a
statement. Why? I beg your pardon? I'm making a statement. Why? What the hell are you saying? He's making a statement. Why? I'm not sure. I'm not sure what what you mean. You've been talking about the process that has nothing to do with the municipal budget. I'm making a statement. Why? I'm against $1 going to
the police department. You've made that statement. Do you have a second statement you want to make about anything else? When I go to say why do you live in? Why you cutting me off? Pay taxes in. When I'm going to say why, why are you cutting me off? I'm asking you questions. Do you live in Sville? Do you pay taxes in Sville? That's none of your
damn business. Uh, mayor. That's none of your damn business. Um, I don't think you do, but the law is the law. I have to allow your your perception is is not my responsibility. You have one minute. Thank you.
So, I'm against everything that's that's going on in Sville. The way you behave, your your corrupt council, your corrupt police department. I don't want one dollar going to them. I don't want$1 going to them because quite frankly, I think the Middle Sex County Prosecutor's Office is going after an innocent man to
cover up what happened to the to the council woman. And quite frankly, um, how how is it you start a murder trial by by making a statement that, oh, we have all these eyewitnesses, but not
one one of these witnesses. This has nothing to do with the budget. I'll be back up. I'll be back up for public comments. Don't worry about it. I'll be back. That's fine. Okay. Uh, are there any other questions? Yes. Uh, are you going to state your name?
Uh, no. All right. Anonymous against the budget because Can I ask you if you live in Sable or pay tax? No. No. You're out of order. I run the meeting. You're out of order. Score them out. You're out of order. This is me speaking in my public time.
You don't have the right speaker. No, you don't. Yes, I do. No, you don't. If you I want to explain why I'm against the budget. Give me the same opportunity. Make your opportunities. Make your make your comments on the budget. Stop talking so I can go right ahead. This is simple basic stuff.
Please don't interrupt me. No, no. I expect you to go ahead. Please. Your comments on our budget or your questions on our budget or both. And you've been eating my clock up. No, because I'm starting the clock now. To do it. I'm starting the clock now. So, I appreciate
that. It's that 410. But thank you. Um, I'm against the budget for like what what just transpired right there. I'm against everything that you the way you go about everything here. I come up and all you want to do is make a separation
from out oftowners and people who live in Sville who pay taxes because you want to make sure that that's a clear distinction. out of town. Out oftowners, sir, all of these residents get to determine how much public interest is in the statements that I give regardless of
my geographical difference, regardless of me surrendering my fourth amendment right to come here and express my first amendment. It's not a disrespect thing. Well, actually, it is because you're disrespecting me as I exercise my rights to remain anonymous, which is my fourth amendment right, and it's covered under
the first amendment and the Open Public Meeting Act. Mayor following this guy is exactly Are you Are you going to make comments on the budget just now? You should have seen his face. You didn't get to see it from this mouth. I'm trying to put words into my mouth or
I will interrupt you. I didn't you I didn't say you said anything. No, you I saw your face. I said I had the perspective of viewing your face in that moment. Listen, you're just trying to set us up for a lawsuit. This is not about a gotcha moment. All you have to do is you live for that. All you have to do is nothing. Move on with the budget.
Interrupt me. I can't my statements. Move on with the questions about the budget. Go ahead. Please stop interrupting me, Mr. Mayor. Jeez, I'm against the budget because you won't you won't bring back Zoom meeting uh uh
for disabled people. I'm against the budget because you paraded a whole bunch of veterans here with a dog and pony show so you could pin them against residents over the pride flag. I'm against everything you stand for. So therefore, I'm against the
budget. I miss the old mayor who actually gave attention to the meetings. That's why I'm against the budget. I'm against the budget for because Councilwoman Novak mutters under her breath constantly while he's speaking, just muttering. Just muttering, showing
complete disrespect. If you guys are supposed to maintain decorum, right, lead by example. Lead by example. When people come up here, all you want to hear is things you agree with. You can't handle when people say
things that are critical to what you're thinking. I mean, this is basic stuff. That's why I'm against the budget because basic government here in Sville is garbage. I miss the old mayor cuz she actually cared about the
meetings. She cared about the public's input. That's why I'm against the budget. I'm against the budget because you cut me off multiple times. I'll have to watch the video back. All that was like a blur. You just couldn't stop talking. Couldn't stop talking. There was even a moment where you tried to have a police
officer get in the middle of your political theater cuz you want to just command show everybody that you command and demand authority. You for the people, Mr. Mayor. It's not the other way around. And if you don't like what I'm saying or
you don't like what I'm saying or any of you, you don't have to say anything. All you have to do is nothing. I appreciate Councilman Bala for never interrupting me. I appreciate the other people that don't. What are you smiling
about? I appreciate when people show respect to members of the public. I don't see that here in Sville. I see a mayor who wants to make a distinction between out oftowners and people who pay taxes to live in Sandville. You don't get to decide the narrative of what
these people deem of public interest. You understand that, right? If you're confronted with what the actual law is because last time you shut a meeting down. You shut a meeting down out of fear of people not telling them their name and their address. Why? So you
could come over and retaliate. All you have to do is nothing. Practice that. All right. Are there any other uh any other questions? Being no other questions, I'll entertain a motion to
close the public portion. Make a motion to close the public. Is there a second? Roll call. Council persons Roberts Fala yes Kesi yes Novak Sarski yes Zabrowski yes now I'm going
to read the in full 2025 budget amendment resolution 2025-112 if I mayor uh it actually uh uh Mr. Uh Robinson is correct. This is not a budget amendment resolution. We're not amending the as far as I'm aware, we're not amending the budget that since it
was introduced. This is the same version of the budget that was introduced. Oh, it has been amended. Okay. So, this is that's then it is correct. It is a budget amendment. Resolution 2025-1125 budget amendment. Whereas the local municipal budget for the year 2025
was introduced on the 28th day of April 2025. And whereas the public hearing on said budget has been held as advertised. And whereas it is desired to amend said approved budget, now therefore it be resolved by the mayor and burough council of the burrow of seable county of Middle Sex, New Jersey, that the attached amendments to the approved
budget for the calendar year of 2025 be made. Revenue and appropriation summaries summary of revenues surplus 9,400,000. Total miscellaneous revenues 29,513,178.78. Receipts from delinquent taxes
1,100,000. Local tax for municipal purposes 37,697,53267. Minimum library tax 2,39,181.50. Total amount to be raised by taxes 40,36,714.17. Total general revenues 80,49,5892.95. Summary of
appropriations, operating expenses, salaries and wages 27,712,794. Other expenses 33,494,7696. Deferred charges and other appropriations 7,148,52089. Capital improvements
$920,000. Debt service 8,265,915. Reserve for uncollected taxes 2,57,894. Total general appropriations 80,49,892.95 2025 dedicated water utility budget summary of revenue surplus
4,84,56 miscellaneous revenues $10,975,000 total revenues $15,59,56 summary of appropriations. Operating expenses, salaries and wages, $3,98,456. Other expenses 8,543,400. Capital improvements
$265,000. Debt service $2,552,200. Deferred charges and other appropriation appropriations 600,000. Total appropriations 15,59,56. Guys are going crazy. Balance of outstanding debt.
General interest 9,161,72167. Principal 54,21,000. Outstanding balance 63,282,72167 water interest 3,660,381.37 principal 17,512,277.92 outstanding balance 21,172,65929. We have to open it to the public.
At this time, I'm going to open uh open uh the public portion for questions or comments. Are there any questions or comments? Jim, are there questions or comments on the budget? Mayor, yes. Okay. The amended budget. That's that's why that's the
confusion and I apologize. I made it before the the public hearing originally was on the introduced budget. This resolution just amended the budget before introduction. So now we're having a public hearing on the amended budget. Thank you. So my observation was
correct. No, actually the resolution is supposed to say amended budget because we are amending the budget. Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was my point. Okay. So what are the amendments to the budget? Daniel, um we were able to um decrease some of the appropriations
165,000. Uh we increased some of the revenues and we brought it down to 2 cents. Okay. Thank you. Now, how about the answer to my other questions? When will I get answer on the
questions money for the firehouse? Is it in that budget instead of grants? How much when you how many new employees are anticipated in this budget? The $50,000 that was in the budget for mayoral aids. Is that in the
amended budget? What did I get for this? They'll I'm asking about the amended budget. How many new employees are in the amended budget? Questions. clerk's office. The birthday lunches that the mayor sponsors for the seniors, does that come out of the what account does
that come out of? Is that in the amended budget? In the amended budget, is it still $50,000 taken out of the decrease in the senior citizens um budget? And how does this budget help the How does
this amended budget help the ordinary taxpayers, the senior citizens, the folks on fixed incomes, young families just starting out? Does this amended budget increase the BIC, the several brain injured children? Um, donation,
does it change it? What about school crossing guards in the amended budget? Is that still down by $90,000 versus the 2024 budget? Those are my questions. Any other questions?
Uh, yes. And my final question is when will I get an answer to those questions? How long will it take your staff to send them to respond? Sorry. Can you use the microphone, please? Um, I have to look up some of the questions. Um, okay. Particularly
the number of new employees. Um, the crossing guards, yes, are down because we had three retirements last year. Um I did budget for vacancies but they will be at a lower rate than the people who retired. Um the office on aging budget
they have a new contract uh for their transportation which brought the budget down. Okay. All right. And would you like me to email you the other questions? Yes, please. Okay. Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate your Are there any other questions on the amended
budget? Being no other questions, I'll take a take a motion. Make a motion to close the public. Oh, you have to close the public. I'm sorry. Close. I I made the motion. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Roll call.
Council persons Roberts, yes. Bala, yes. Fissy, yes. Novak, yes. Sinarski, yes. Zabowski, yes. Now, I need a motion to adopt the budget amendment. Is there a motion? Make a motion to adopt the budget uh
amendment. Is there a second? Second. Roll call. Council person Zabrouski Bala. No. Kesi. Yes. Novak. Uh, yes. Uh, no. With an explanation. Um, I was I was very
unhappy that um I know that uh Mr. Bala, who does this for a living, had several recommendations. he thought he could bring this in at zero without any problems with next year's budget and they uh chose not to use all of his and
also we're deleting a shared service agreement which is going to cost us money and you know we authorized that pilot you know it just seems like we're not being fiscally responsible so my votes are no
Roberts Yes, Sinars. Yes. I need a motion to adopt the municipal budget and resolution 2025. Is there a motion? I'll make that motion. But before I do, just uh just a couple of comments. First and foremost, uh I want to thank uh actually the other members
of the committee, which was Mr. Bala and uh Mrs. Novak. This really was a collaborative process. Uh despite the votes uh otherwise, we worked very hard to get to a very lean budget. In the end, sometimes you dispute whether you need to get to a different level or not.
But I do go back to when I when uh you know, when you're talking about your home finances and you want to make sure that you're lean, but you're also protecting yourself for future as well. And I believe that this budget does exactly that. It's lean, but it also makes sure that we're not we're not taxing uh our community for the future
as well. Um I also think that what you have to do is listen to your professionals, and we have very good professionals. So, I want to commend our department heads for putting in uh all that time to be able to create their budgets in the best way they can and make them as frugal and lean as they can as well. And Danielle, thank you very
much for the process. Uh it was very clean um and very efficient and you did good work. And for that reason, uh I I make a motion to adopt the 2025 municipal budget and resolution and second. Roll call. Council person
Zabrowski. Yes. Fala, no. Kesi, yes. Novak, no. Roberts, yes. Sarski, yes. Okay. Uh, we're I'm going to pull under new business. There's no appointments. Uh, I
am going to pull the ordinance on the Shade Tree Committee for the moment. Um, is there any objection to me doing that? Being no objection, we'll then go to resolutions where I will open the
public portion for questions or comments on the resolutions. Are there any questions or comments on the resolutions? There being no questions or comments, I'll entertain a motion. I make a motion that we I move the
public hearing be closed and the consent agenda resolutions be approved on roll call vote. Roll call. Council persons Roberts. Yes, Bala. Okay. On ordinance resolution 2025114, I'm going to abstain on the Adellex bill and the KC science bill.
Yes. On all their items. Okay. Kesi, yes. Novak, Sarski, yes. Zabowski, yes. I need a motion to accept the correspondence that's listed.
A motion to accept the correspondence. I make a motion to accept the correspondence as listed. Is there a second? Roll call. Council persons Roberts. Yes. Ala, yes. His yes. Novak.
Sorry. Yes. Sarski, yes. Zabowski, yes. You want to read the retirement resignation? No, that's Was that included? Okay. Report to the mayor, council, administration and finance. Councilman Bala. Thank you, Mayor. Progress. Okay. Planning and zoning.
Councilman Zabowski. Uh thank you, Mayor. Uh just a couple of things. Uh first, and I'm sure everybody will do this. Uh we had a Memorial Day uh parade yesterday, and I want to thank all our burrow workers for all their assistance, all the volunteers, and as well as our community for coming out. Um I thought
it was a wonderful event. Uh, and also I appreciate uh our um uh both Keith Kandell and Carmen Delicott were the um were the u members grand marshals. Thank you Mary for the parade. Uh also want to thank Jen and
her group for a really wonderful senior day. I apologize that I couldn't be in town for that but that was at the active adult center last Wednesday. It was about 240 uh attendees which is a great number. And again, I appreciate her staff as well as all the volunteers from the clubs who did setup, serving, and
then breakdown. It was a it was a great event. Um, shout out to Fred Block as well. Uh, the Patriots Flags of Saravel, as you see, there were a number throughout town. Um, I think it's really nice that he spearheads a program such as that that spreads a message of unity
and national pride. And then finally on the planning board on uh May 21st uh the planning board uh received uh two uh reports from uh the Sarah um planner uh rep for uh areas of need of uh
redevelopment and the planning board accepted both th both of those reports. Mayor, that's my report. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Public Safety. Councilman Kesy. Okay. for tonight's report. Um, I'd like to share first uh Police Chief Plum Marker's uh wishes to
for me to share the following. Uh, last Wednesday on uh May 21st around 4:51 a.m., a fatal crash occurred on Route 9 North. So, a truck driver working on his disabled vehicle was struck and killed by a passing car. So, the driver of that
car was uh hospitalized. The investigation is now ongoing. So, if anybody has uh information or dash cam footage, please contact Officer Kales at 732525-55418 or Detective McGarry at
7327453140. Next, uh officer is honored for uh child safety operation. So, the chief is proud to share that Sergeant Chris Angel and Detective Gabe Lugo and Detective Matt Zabrowski will be honored
with meritorious service awards at the 2025 Valor Awards hosted by the 200 Club of Middle Sex County. Their work on Operation Cruel Summer helped arrest individuals attempting to lure minors
online. So, thanks to all agencies involved for keeping our kids safe. Lastly, uh before this year's Memorial Day parade, I had the honor of attending the firemen's memorial ceremony. An important moment to remember and pay
tribute to the brave members of our fire service who made the ultimate sacrifice. I also want to give a big thank you to our Saraveville Police Department Office of Emergency Management and our dedicated auxiliary officers for doing
an outstanding job escorting the parade. So, and a thank you to Fire Chief uh Gavvern and uh OEM Director Chris Barsley and Deputy Director Vincent Buffalo, not only for their leadership, but for being there with us, keeping
everyone safe and everything running smooth. So, great work all around and thank you for helping us honor our heroes with pride and respect. And that's the end of my report. Thank you, Councilman Public Works. Councilwoman
Novak, don't want to labor everything what uh Councilman Sowski said, you know, with the patriot flags. Um Fred does a great uh job with that. uh reminds everybody that he needs donations to continue to pay for these
flags. They are extremely expensive. The last bill was over $900. But luckily enough, we had good weather almost to the end till it finally rained on us a little bit when we were putting up the flags. But he he really just loves, you know, the country
and the flags and getting the kids involved, too, because we put flags up on both the little league fences and the AA fences of all of the branches of the service. And we even have one for the space service. So, that was really exciting for the kids to see that going
up. Um, Memorial Day parade, it's it's a wonderful experience and all of the barbecues and everything else. But the most important part of that day for me and many of the service members is approximately 5:30 in the
morning, the services start at different monuments in town at all of the cemeteries. And when they were doing their 21 gun salute at all of the cemeteries, I I thought to myself, gee, I hope nobody's calling the police department to complain about gunfire.
This this is what the day is all about. and all of these people and again volunteers that do all of this stuff to really honor the dead and to honor the families that lost it. We
have a a young man from Sable who lost his life and um his wife and his two young children live here. People talk about it all the time, but they're living it and it it's something. It's it's more than hamburgers and hot dogs
on Memorial Day. And I want to thank everybody for that. The senior party was a lot of fun. It always is. It always amazes me how much energy they have more energy than me. And you know, I guess I'm in their group now, so I I can't talk too much about that. I also I have
a couple of questions about something else, but right now I would like to read if I can get this back because I'm commu computer illiterate. There is something great that's going to happen in this town. As uh the BA knows, I actually was trying to get rid of the uh Middle Sex
County recycling because I honestly believe that 90% of the mess in this town is because of the recycling bins. It doesn't seem to matter if it's totally not windy. You put your recycling bucket out, it gets windy and it blows all over town. Nobody, you know, that the recycling people if it's
on the ground, oh well, it stays there. Nobody picks it up. But then Glenn told me the good news and then I got some particulars from Elise, who lease and I would always commiserate about getting rid of those stupid blue cans with no covers. Glenn told me and that the
county is going with a auto an automatic uh company that is going we're going to start having a big blue can for our recyclables so they won't blow all around town. Um the it's going to start
in July and excuse me August 1st. They'll be starting to deliver the um the new cans on August 1st. And I I think it is really going to I know Elise also has the you know all of those cleanups in town and I'm hoping they go a lot better if we're if our recycling
isn't blown all over town. So I'm very excited about that and I know you will be too just as when we went to the automated garbage. It really cleaned up the town too because we didn't have rodents, you know, knocking over the cans and everything. They are excellent at keeping the garbage in and they will
be excellent at keeping your recycling in. And I think you're all going to really appreciate it. Okay. What I just something else um when I got the agenda on Thursday and I saw this I this that you pulled and I'm very
happy that you pulled it. Rules of order are that nothing goes on to the business agenda unless it's been discussed and approved by the majority of the council. This ordinance showed up for first reading and I'm I'm just wondering can
somebody tell me how this got onto the agenda? Who authorized this to go onto the agenda in the first place? I put it on the agenda by yourself without going through the council. Well, we can certainly discuss it since this is a joint uh uh agenda
council meeting if you like. No, it's not supposed to be the rules of order are it's not supposed to be put on the business agenda until it's discussed and approved by the council, not by the mayor. Now, money was expended here. Who authorized the expenditure of money to
write the resolution the ordinance? I did. So you you unilaterally authorized the expend. You don't have the authority to do that. Duly noted, Mary. Okay. Well, I'm really happy that it was pulled. It was one of the first
things on my agenda. But in the future, we are the governing body. Yes. there's not just one person whether it's the mayor or me or you know even Glenn with and he knows probably more than all of us put together you know it it requires
us to to do it and I but I do appreciate that you saw the mistake and it was pulled uh and mayor other than that progress okay uh water sewer environmental councilman Sinarski I just want to say also I participated
and I want to thank all of volunteers and everybody involved including the burrow workers for a great Memorial Day parade and I think it was the weather was great and everybody had a great time. Uh as far as the water and sewer we pump we made 175 million gallons and
last month uh there's standard progress at all of the pump stations. The weather's better so the the crews are all out doing all their necessary maintenance to keep everything running so nobody has backups and problems at their homes. Uh last Friday Oya also participated. I spent some time at the
community garden just cleaning up a little bit. There was some people there so the gate was open so I didn't have to do the combination to get in, but I stayed there for a while and helped clean up a little bit and there's a lot of things growing and all the plots are just about filled up and we have progress there. Other than that, we're
all good. Hey, ask a question. Yes. Okay. Well, no. Mayor, can I You want to ask a question? Yes. Stash a question? Yes. About water? Um, I noticed in the report that um, PE I and I don't know
how many people actually saw the report that we as much as you think it rained a lot, it didn't. I We're not on mandatory restrictions though, right? Still we're not on a mandatory drought, but there is still a drought situation going on. I don't have the current levels of the wells and the fields and the acrifiers
at this point, but I will have it for the next meeting. Is there any way we can kind of like put it on our Facebook to just remind people that although it seems like a lot of water, we had a really dry winter, so people should, you know, involve a good idea. We if we can do set on on our Facebook, that would be
a great idea. Thank you. Yep. Anything else, Sash? No, we're good. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, uh, Recreation Council President Roberts. Thank you, Mayor. It was, um, kind of a quiet time except for the parade. Um, I was away
for a while, so it was nice to get away. I'm in catch-up mode right now. Um, I do want to say the parade is such a great honor to be part of, and the people that participate in it, um, really are the best part of our town and that is
something I'm so proud of. Um, the other thing that I'd like to share is the VFW did a great great event. Um, and I have the names. I just want to make sure I've get Danny and
Danny and Katie Vardalis are the two uh parents and veterans that had set this up and they embody really what the future of our town needs to be. They ran a wonderful event. It was welcoming to everyone in the community,
not only veterans, but we really do in all aspects of our town and community need to bring in people who we are making decisions for today. Things that we're doing here don't matter to us as much as they do to the people who are raising their children here now and are
going to be the future. So, this was an embodiment of that and I can't wait to see more of what comes from this couple and the other participants and veterans that were part of this event. I am so honored to have been invited and to be a
participant. I had nothing to do with it. I just have nothing but great things to say about this couple and the VFW and what they're doing now. So, I'm just um floored by by their accomplishments and what they're going to do in the future. Thank
you, mayor. Thank you. Uh general discussion administration. Uh Glenn, if you want to admit authorization for the tax collector to refund taxes and cancel all subsequently build taxes due to 100% disabled veteran tax exemption for the following block 447.07, lot 15 in the
amount of $5,542.87. 87 cents. Any objection? Next item. Coin toss received for the corner of Washington and Ernston Road from Head Over Heels Parent Association on July 26th and 27 and Knights of Columbus on October 11th and 12th. Is the Head Over
Heels a SEL organization? Okay. Any objection? Next item. Application for membership as a firefighter received from Juan Alvarado accepted by Melrose Hose Company number one at their March 31st, 2025 meeting. Any objection? Next item. Authorization to advertise for the
receipt of bids for electrical work and repairs as needed. Any objection? Next item. Authorization to award contracts for the water department chemicals. Bids are being received on June 4th. So this way we would be able to award them at our next meeting. Any objection? Anything
else? Jessica? No. Okay. Business administrator progress mayor. Thank you. CFO's report. Thank you, Mayor. progress. Thank you. Uh borrow engineers report. Thank you, Mayor Fudy. Items this evening, 2023 road project has been completed
recommending a closeout and approval of a final change order with a net reduction. Need a resolution to do that. Next item, 34 patent drive. They had posted a landscaping bond prior to getting a CO. That work's been completed. Recommending a resolution releasing that bond. Next item, the Jerry S. Recreational Complex. We
received bids for that project. Uh we're recommending award of a contract, but due to available funds, we've got to delete the multi-purpose field. So the contract is going to be just the baseball softball field and the parking lot improvements. Thank you, Jay. And then mayor, one more item. We're receiving bids for the next phase of
your road improvement project next week. So if everything's in order, we'd like a resolution awarding the contract at your next meeting. Thank you all. Thank you. Borrow attorney. Uh nothing this evening. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. This time I'm going to open the public portion for questions or comments. There is a fivem minute limit. Other
questions, Arthur? Good evening, Mayor and Council. Arthur Writtenhouse appearing as chairman of the Saveville Shade Tree Commission. Um, thank you, mayor, for pulling back uh the ordinance. I'm the chair of the
Saveville Shade Tree Commission. I come before you tonight because of an ordinance you were going to introduce at the first reading to do away with the seville shade tree commission which was set up under New Jersey state law and replace it with a shade tree advisory
committee. First, this is being done illegally under your rules of order which state an ordinance must be discussed at an agenda meeting which was not done. Second, the liaison to the shade tree commission was not informed and the council person who was listed to
introduce it knew nothing about it. The shade tree commission is charged with exclusive responsibility of planting trees and shrubs on local county, state, and federal land within the burrow of serville. It is also charged with overseeing the serville tree bank which
is supported by developers contributing money to the tree bank to replace trees taken down by development. The shade tree commission has tried to prevent the tree bank from being used as a piggy bank for pep projects that do not meet the criteria.
The commission has contacted the mayor and the council and the BA about this problem and has been ignored and money is being spent over the objection of the shade tree commission. Some of the abuses include refusing to give the contact information for the Rucker
people working on the MacArthur and Weber Avenue projects and spending money from the tree bank without consulting the Shade Tree Commission. The Shade Tree Commission has been blocked from getting to the mail room and get its corresponding and accessing its storage
closet, which is located in a bathroom on the first floor. Other boards and commissions have access to their materials. The commission has asked that the chair of the commission and the commission's confidential secretary have access to this and the request was
denied. Purchasing a $300,000 piece of equipment to be used to plant trees. The agreement also included the labeling of the equipment with purchased by treebank money and authoriz authorized by the shade tree commission and having it in
the parks department for efficiency. None of this was done. Not one tree has been planted by this machine for the last two years. The board of education needs many trees. When the commission asked the BA to allow the parks department to plant trees on board of
education property, we were told they were not covered by insurance. Yet the BA had the parks department plant trees on Kaplan property, Camelot on Main Street because residents of Wnooki complained about the building that they
couldn't see it wasn't pretty anymore looking out their backyards. When the commission asked how that was possible, the BA said they were covered by GIF. In addition, the trees were placed around the development, not just behind Wnooki
Drive. The Shade Tree Commission has accomplished many things for the burrow residents. Some of these are maintain tree tree city status. Inventory the trees and in the burrow for reports that are required by the state of New Jersey. Train the members of the shade tree
commission so that we have required number of trained commissioners as required by the state of New Jersey. Participate in climate change education advisory board which is run with grants to the serville board of education in grades seven and eight. and they have
just been awarded to expand that to the sixth grade. This is one item with community involvement. We attended the Earth Day program at the Serville Middle School working with the parks department to do an inventory so we can replace and replenish trees in our parks. The
seedling program which distributes seedlings to our residents near Arbor Day each year. Each year the Shade Tree Commission distributes 3 to 500 seedlings. Memorial tree planting. This is a continuation of a program started many years ago. If you look at the trees
on the front and side of Burough Hall, you will see trees with plaques for residents who have been honored, including the late Councilwoman Drumford. A tree was planted for Christian Rivera near the Jumer Bober Field. At Kennedy Park, we have many trees in memory of residents. In the
back of Burrow Hall, there are two rows of trees, if you look out the windows here, that were planted for our World War II veterans. The Shade Tree Commission is in charge of approving permits for residents to take down trees on the 10-ft rideway of their residents.
The Shade Tree Commission is charged with reviewing plans from different boards, i.e. planning, zoning, and ser which they have failed to send us reports until just recently. The sevil shade tree commission are volunteers appointed by the mayor with the approval
of the council. The commission meets 12 months in the year. The Shade Creek Commission has two contests during the year to get students involved in the environment. They are the poetry contest and the art contest. The content is open
to several students that are public, private, and homeschool students. In closing, the commission is dedicated to serving the environment in the burrow of several and protecting the money available to accomplish those goals. Please keep the seable shade commission
as it is intended and not a political football. And also I have not received any responses from anybody with emails that I sent. So it's only not only Jim Robinson that doesn't get it. Only Mary and Dan are the only ones who respond. I guess the other people don't know how to
use their email. Are there any other questions or comments? Yes, ma'am. Hi, I just have a thank you to for the Shade Tree Commission. Thank you for everything that you do. The other thing I have identify yourself again, dear. Jennifer Streka in 25 Sherwood Road,
Portland. Thank you. And the other thing I have to say is, is there anything that can be done? I know this is going to seem stupid being that everything we're talking about tonight, but I spent four minutes at that light going from Main Street Extension to make a left towards the police station. It changed like
maybe 6 months ago. Now you have to wait four minutes. That traffic is it's okay at 11:00 in the morning. I'm the only one sitting there. But sometimes you do it at 2 or 3:00 in the afternoon. And now we're 12 or 14 cars back to do the left turn only signal. Are we responsible for the timing of that light or to somebody else? Are you coming from
here to the police station? Coming from Main Street Extension making a left. There's a left turn only signal. It's 4 minutes long now. I I got stuck coming here there tonight. I don't know what happened to it, but if if there's something that can be done about that, we we'll take a look at it.
30 seconds. No more. Thank you very much. Okay. Are there any other questions? Yes. Hi. Um, good evening, major and council members. Um, my name is Alberto Rios and I'm a ser resident. Uh before I uh
before I go into it, I'd like to take a minute to uh thank each and every one of you um the burrow, the police officers and volunteers uh for organizing and being a part of the uh parade yesterday. It was beautiful day and it was a proud day uh
to honor our heroes and remember the true meaning of this holiday. So it was really a beautiful parade and thank you everybody. Um, I rise tonight to strongly oppose ordinance 1725, which proposes dissolving our state tree
commission and replacing it with an advisory committee. Um, let me be clear. I fully support the preservation and care of our burough's trees. Trees are vital to our community environmentally, aesthetically, and economically.
However, this ordinance is not a step forward. is a step back. Before we consider dismantling the commission, let's recognize who we're talking about. Members of the Shade Tree Commission are dedicated, educated volunteers. They
attend conferences, pursue certifications, and stay informed about best practices in community forestry. They care deeply about this town and have done a tremendous job protecting and enhancing our green spaces. Some of these same individuals are also
active in the historical society. The very group that fought to preserve the firehouse and honor Saraveville's rich history. These are not just volunteers. They are stewards of our community. And yet, this ordinance will strip them of
their authority and replace them with an advisory body that meets less often and operates largely out of the public eye. One of my most serious concerns is the reduction in transparency that this ordinance would
bring. Currently, the Shade Tree Commission is a public body governed by the Open Public Meetings Act, commonly known as the Sunshine Law. This means residents have the right to attend meetings, receive notice, and
participate in the public process. That right would disappear under this ordinance. The proposed advisory committee would only meet quarterly. That's just four times a year. And those meetings would not be required to be
public. In fact, the ordinance explicitly states that the committee is not subject to the open public meetings act. This means decisions that affect our town's environment, the planting, care, and
removal of trees can happen without public notice, without transparency, and without accountability, and that's just unacceptable. Furthermore, a quarterly meeting schedule is
inadequate. Trees are leaving resources that require consistent ongoing attention. Many towns with active forestry programs meet monthly, sometimes more often during peak planting seasons. By reducing the
meeting frequency, we risk delays, inefficiencies, and a lack of responsiveness. This ordinance does not strengthen our shade tree protections. It weakens them. It disbands a commission with defined authority under
state law and replaces it with an advisory group that has no decision-making power, limited oversight, and a diminished public engagement. I asked this council, why are we making it harder for the public to be
involved? Why reduce meeting frequency? Why shield the committee from the sunshine law? If we truly care about our environment, if we truly care about public participation, and if we truly believe in open government, then this
ordinance should be rejected. Thank you. Okay. Are there any other questions, Tom? Um, name is Tom Fritzen, 143 Main Street, Seville. Proud to say my name.
Um, first of all, I've got a couple. First of all, the parade was great. Runs right past my house. I was happy to sit on my porch and watch it go by. It was awesome. I also liked the leading five or four stealth police cars that were
told to me that were the traffic ones. So, I'm great. They were riding down Main Street. I would like to see them once or twice parked on Main Street so people don't drive past fast past my house. So, um, I also want to thank Stash for
getting back to me and and talking about stuff on Main Street and also the committee for the Main Street. Uh, Zach got in touch with me and I'm going to be coming here on Thursday to see the presentation and see what you guys have in mind for the Main
Street beautifification, I guess, what we're talking about. Um, I have three things though I would need to talk about. Oh, no. Two things I need to talk about. one. Um I'm concerned we were talking about the budget before and all that stuff. Um I noticed since I live a
block away from this park that on some nights when it's really really raining hard and I look out my window, the lights are on for the baseball field. Or I remember driving past the baseball field like when it was
getting close to winter and it was snowing, the lights were on. I I I don't understand why those lights come on when there's nothing going on. Obviously, if there's a game going on, I got no problem with them, but it seems like there's a lot of waste with those lights
because they seem to be on constantly when they shouldn't be on. Um I I know I'm probably if I remember my days when I worked a recreation department a long time ago that we had the lights on a timer. So, you turn the timer on and you go home. But if it rains while the timer
is going off, your lights are going to go on all night. So, I don't know if there's anything that that can be done to have those lights on and off at present times when they're supposed to be needed. Uh, second thing I'll do, I got a a message on my garbage can
because um there's always seems to be a problem on Main Street with garbage cans because if you don't put your garbage can in the street, they won't take it. I had my garbage can. I forgot because usually I do put it on the street because I know
if I don't put it on the street, somebody's going to park right in front of my garbage can and it won't get collected. Um, but I had it on the curb. It was plenty of room, but then I got a note slapped on it saying they didn't pick it up because it wasn't in the
proper location. I didn't know there was a proper location for the garbage cans. I know Main Street's tough because everybody parks up and down Main Street, especially on my side, and there's really no place to put the garbage cans unless you throw them in the street before the uh people park there. I don't know if there's anything that can be
done about that or we can maybe I don't know. I don't want to get into like sides of the street parking like in New York City. Like we can nobody can park on Wednesdays on Main Street until about 10 o'clock when the garbage is collected and then they get parked there and stuff. But just some things that I've
noticed in town that annoy me a little. So, um, so there you go. That's all I got. Thanks. Thank you, Tom. Excuse me, Mayor. Can I address Tom for a second? Sure. Tom, one second. Yesterday after I walked back up
Main Street, I met with some Barrow cereable Main Street residents and they did see an improvement. Uh I like your idea with putting the lines on the road. We're going to go further with that and see what happens with that. But uh we're trying to make some progress for everybody that has a business or residents that live on Main Street here
and to speed more police presence. Yeah. And I know I talked to the sergeant uh Memorial Day and he mentioned that you're trying to lower the speed limit to 25 on Main Street also. Yes. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, they're doing some kind of traffic study and all that stuff from the the Middle Sex County, I
guess, because it's a county road. I I got no problem if you're going to lower the speed limit. The only problem is it has to be infor. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Tom. Heather Heather Yani Posski
71ki. So when I was made aware of this ordinance which I am thankful um has been pulled um I was a little concerned. I know that our chair our written house has made multiple attempts to try to foster communication
uh which seems there definitely uh has been a bit of a breakdown with between the shade tree commission and the burrow uh mayor and council. Um often times money is taken out of the tree bank fund and I realize that for certain things
yes not approval needs to be needed for everything but things are being decided without shade tree being a part of it and we have voiced those concerns which makes me feel like this is a very targeted thing. Um the fact that this has even made it to an ordinance without
the proper channel being pursued is a little discerning. So I would hope that as you go and review this potential ordinance going forward that one it goes through the appropriate channels to do so. Two I hope that in the future if shade tree
commission should still be around um that we could work on fostering that communication to better serve the people of Seerville. That's it. Thank you. Anyone else? Jim. Thank you, Mayor Jim Robinson from Parlin. First, I want to congratulate
the officers who are the recipients of the 200 Club Award. Um, tonight, because the elevator is out here, folks can go to the Mickey Sedlac Civic Center and watch the meeting on Zoom. Can they
actually participate in the meeting? They can. Is the absurdity of that lost on everybody else? You can drive a block away, go up that long ramp and sit there
and participate in the meeting on Zoom. But my friend Carol who came here from Laurel Park to talk about the tree uh Sha Tree Commission, she and others can't participate by Zoom from home. That's
crazy. That is just crazy. And mayor, you've said a few times that you've asked your liaison to the veterans how they feel about Zoom meeting participation and nobody has any problem. Well, at the wonderful
celebration yesterday, I asked three veterans and today when I came here, I got to ask a fourth. How do you feel about Zoom participation and not being able to participate? Every one of those four people thought it was wrong. And one of
them said to me, "Are you kidding me? I am 78 years old. I don't want to be going to a council meeting to speak. I have an interest in what's going on, but I don't want to have to go to the burough hall." So that the you can do Zoom. You proved it tonight. It's at the
civic center. We just can't do it at home. Um the recycling containers, I guess, are a benefit for a lot of folks unless you live in a townhouse community and there is no room for those things. So, I hope that that can be worked out because that does impact two or three of
the communities in town. I was going to talk about the Shade Tree Commission, the elimination of it, and I I'm not going to thank you for pulling it. Never should have been there. Never should have been there. That's what I want to talk about. This is probably the third or fourth time, mayor, where you have
exceeded your legal authority. You are a weak mayor in a burough form of government. It is the council that governs, not the mayor. And you might think it's not a big deal because of the tree sha tree commission ordinance. The reason we are building thousands of
market rate apartments in this town is because this mayor unilaterally without council approval approved that and the council ended up suing as a result of that. And the judge reversed some of those things. You you took
authority that is not yours, mayor. You did the same thing on January 1st. It's the reason we have two burrow engineers. You appointed a a politically connected person who was spared jail by a a a
pardon, a presidential pardon, somebody nobody ever heard of. And there was no discussion. The council didn't talk about it. I was here January 1st. you appointed Morgan Engineering. People said, "Oh, good local firm from Morgan." People looked at one another and said,
"What did he do? What did he do?" Council members weren't sure cuz you exceeded your authority. That wasn't discussed. It's has to be discussed, mayor. You can't do that. And you can't authorize the attorney, even though I
good friends with his firm, you can't authorize them to drop an ordinance. And they better not be paid for that because that would be illegal. You can't do that, mayor. That's not your authority. You have to learn your place. You are the You're not an Ayatollah. You're not
a king. You are the mayor in a burrow form of government. And I know I know you go down to Atlantic City, you don't go to any of those classes, but if you did, you would know the limited powers of a mayor in a burrow form of government. Maybe the uh the attorney
can explain that to you. Um, I want to ask the status of the cable TV franchise, the rightway ordinance. Did we approve that?
We didn't. That was eight years late. And then a year ago, we brought it up. Somebody asked the question about what does a local office mean? Everybody looked at one another. Nobody knew what a local office meant. We tabled it. In
the meantime, the office, the local office moved out of town and we still haven't reintroduced it. This is government at its best. No. Can't even do something simple like
that. My time is up. Thank you, mayor and council members. All right. Oh, I'm sorry. Um, anonymous. Um, sorry about that. Um, good evening, mayor. Good evening, council. Um,
uh, proud to not give my name. Proud to exercise my rights under the United States Constitution, New Jersey State Constitution, the OPMA. Proud to keep myself and my family safe
by not giving my address and my private sensitive information. It's one step away from asking me for my debit card name. You you seem to forget that you work for the people. When you started to cut me off during my first testimony, I
had to neutralize a situation by banging a gavvel. And it made you so upset because the idea, the mere idea of having a leving level playing field with the public makes you act like a child. And then you have outbursts and then as I
refer to the law, you say, "He's not making any sense." And then as I say, "You should have seen the lawyer's face." The lawyer winds up saying, "You're putting words in my mouth." You know more than ever that word You'll direct your questions to me. Through the
chair to the You can just direct your questions to me. This is what I'm talking about. It doesn't matter. You're cutting me off. Stop. No. Your inability. No. No. You need What you don't understand is I need your permission. You don't run the meeting. You are out of order. I'm not
running the meeting. You don't have control over my life. Keep going. You can't control my testimony. You got about 3 minutes. I'm Why do you keep cutting me off? You're doing it again. Cuz you're out of order. No, because you don't know the law. You don't know the law. This is the time that you keep your
mouth shut and members of the public just rude. I always say you you need to stop absorbing every little thing like things are personal. Why do they feel so personal? Is it because you do everything behind closed doors? You know, thank God Councilwoman
Novak called you out. Everybody else was just sitting here and nobody else was going to say a thing. You know, before when I got Councilman Mike, I don't want to say your last name wrong. Before when I thought you gave an explicit smile, when I thanked Bala for always remaining professional and never saying anything
and cutting me off, I thought you gave this. You're doing it the whole time. Somebody gave you bad political advice. That is when you're up on a council. Just smile. Smile the whole time. Councilwoman Novak is calling out the mayor for doing illegal activity and you're smiling. You're still smiling.
Whoever gave you that advice, all questions are direct. Whoever gave advice like that, they're probably not even an elected official anymore. That's bad advice. It's robotic. You don't have to care. You don't have to like it. I'm just giving you
criticism. Something that is so difficult for people to swallow. God forbid, members of the you tried to and I want to give a shout out to Chief Dan, great great great chief went from one of the worsts in the in the state, one of the firsts in the
state. I don't appreciate it when mayors use get involved in groups and use their status as the chief of police to villainize cannabis and get paid on the back end. I don't support that kind of stuff. So, shout out to Chief Dan. Great
guy. When I ran into him, he was nothing but respectful, nothing but kind. And shout out to the police who know they can't remove us for remaining anonymous. And you want to know how you found that out? Through your lawyer. That's why I referred to the lawyer who who had made a face when I spoke because he's the one
who and it's not you feel forced. You feel like you're being forced to do these things. This is the law. We have laws in place. You're not You cannot overextend authority. You do not have. This is how it works and you have to deal with it when people call you out
for what you see what you're doing now. This is what I like. Just absorb it. Don't deflect and fight back and cut me off. I mean, Jesus, I've been going to council meetings for a long time, for many, many years, and I stopped giving my name and
address because there was a moment of silence that that a speaker was asking to have, and the lawyer cut her off, and she said, "I just would like to have a moment of silence." Two of her friends had died, and the lawyer cut her off a second time. Some chump, Matthew
Gia, Madison, Summit, complete chump. From that day on, I decided if you people can't offer the respect in return, you're not, it's not about disrespect. I'm just highlighting the fact that not that someone like you,
Mayor O'Brien, can't handle when you have to respect the rights and the law. That's where things come into play with you and it's it's it's a very touchy thing with you when you have to follow the law.
Okay. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Am I recognized? Good. Am I recognized? Bigger pardon? Am I recognized? Go ahead. Thank you. So, if you took your classes in
Atlantic City, you can know I can talk to any one of these council members, including the attorney, as long as I say through the chair. No. To the attorney. You can address everything to me. Arbitules of order. Would you do me a favor and and give a cameo to the camera there so that people the border if you
would took your Atlantic City rather than banging? I think it's outstanding. Maybe maybe you would have learned something. Go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Please don't speak. Don't don't try. But you kind of make a mockery of of violating the decorum of the I'm not violating anything over the speakers.
You go. Please proceed. Your your clock is ticking, son. Thank you. Um, so the Middle Sex County Republican Organization, the Middle Sex County Democratic Organization, our country club of radical racist and sex predators, which you happen to be a part
of. All of you happen to be a part of it. Um, in regards to the council woman, the council woman who got killed, uh, I find it perplexed listening to the trial and here you have all these
witnesses that witnessed something, but They did not witness that actual guy. Um, it's night time. Black male with dreads did not witness that actual person. So, it leads me to believe they
didn't find a murder weapon. They just found a weapon. You know, almost everyone has a gun down south. So, they found somebody down south with a gun, which everyone has a gun, but it wasn't the murder weapon.
Nobody witnessed this particular person at the scene. Um, it's possible his phone was in the same geographical location. How is the guy in jail? How How are you guys violating his rights? Violating his due
process rights? He should he should be out of the jail fighting his trial. Absolutely disgusting. And Michael uh through the chair. Uh Councilman Kalachi. Councilman Katchi. Are you a police officer? You can
address it to the chair. Are you a police officer? You can address it to the chair. Well, you look like a police officer. Um so I heard you talking about the the the sex predator type of task force. Are you aware before you created the sex predator task force
that back in 2021 I came out here with a guy named Ramy? We caught several child predators. Live streamed it on YouTube at the Circle Motel was it? You can ask the the police about it. Went viral. Uh
volunteers did that without getting paid. Um, so it makes me wonder how long how long ago did this program start? Address your questions to the chairman. Robert's rules of how long how
long ago did that buddy anonymous if if you're going to disrupt the meeting, I'll have to I'll I'll call it uh to an end. You can't disrupt. You have to be you have to be respectful. You cannot be disrupting the meeting. If it's my time to speak, you got to be a goofball for
some that type of interpretation or You have two minutes. Are you freaking kidding me? You have two minutes. I I guess common sense went out the window with you. Completely went out the window with you. Are you freaking kidding me? When it's my time to speak, that means
it's time for you to shut your mouth. It's It's quite simple. It's quite simple. I'm sorry I had to remind you. You guys are really searching for a bit of a lawsuit. Nobody's searching for any lawsuit. So, how do you make your money? How do I
make my money? By by recording goofy ass politicians like you politicians like you that have zero respect for members of And then you take the money from the taxpayers of Saveville. It's what this is all about. You don't have to like it, but you can
kiss my ass. the uh anyone out in in the back that's that uh telling me I'm wasting time, you can kiss my ass, too. Stop breaking the law, Mayor. Mayor, stop breaking the law. I'm wearing this mask because I think the shooter's still out there and I when I leave here after I called out the real
killers, I don't want you to send your mafia hitman to come after me. One minute. Okay. Your mafia hitman to come after me and shoot me as he possibly did to the council woman. the first black council woman. Um, I find it suspicious
that she was against the police department. Um, that the police department wanted to remove her as as the police liaison. I find it suspicious that the Middle Sex County prosecutors tried to sue everyone that that tried to get those emails and then they had to pull back. Thank you. What were they
afraid of? Thank you. Uh, are there any anyone else? Frank. Yeah. Frank Shazino 32 Canal Street. Uh just want to say Tom, do you put your cans on the sidewalk or at the curb? On
the wheels to the curb. I put off the curb the street. Yeah. Sometime there's cars there. They can't get in because I had your rout. It's very difficult over there. I usually left them on the curb. pretty big. Okay. If they're on if they're on the sidewalk, we're not picking them up. We can't reach. Yeah.
Okay. Sorry. Um I notice how you had apartments. We're picking up garbage in apartments. What do you know? Apartment may be that may be Frank. I'm sorry. I can't hear you. What apartments do we What apartments do we use that you're
going to be picking up cans at in the future? Because we don't normally do apartments. Mary, do you know? Uh we don't usually pick up garbage from the apartment, but Middle Sex County does pick up recycling from some Okay. You're talking Village. Okay.
Oh, so it's not us. It's outside. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Thank you. And uh Okay. Let's say it cost us a homeowner a certain amount of money. So regardless of what they're paid, we reimburse them
for what it would cost the normal. All right. All right. Thanks, mayor. Uh these guys, they're on my uh executive board and when we have meetings, they're always talking about shade tree, about what we can do for the
kids and all that. I have to tell them to cut it out and get back to me. They're very loyal and dedicated. So, I also oppose uh getting rid of these nice people. Uh I support them and uh I'm glad it was
pulled tonight because you know you're you're getting a a bang for for free. These guys are for great. That's it. Thank you. Thank you, Frank. Anyone else? Being no one else, I'll entertain a motion to close the public portion.
Make a motion to close the public. Second. Uh, roll call. I All in favor? I. Okay. Before I call for adjournment, there are groups of individuals who go around to um
council meetings throughout throughout the state. And and what they do, they they try to behave in an offensive manner. And and then what they try to do is is they'll file uh a kind of a frivolous lawsuit in
hopes that the joint insurance fund of the bureau will say settle it out for5 or $10,000 because it would cost us $50,000 to go to court. Um so there's a there's a couple of couple of duos that go around
uh and that's how they make their living. They they do um that's just what they do. What I don't allow is when it becomes insulting and and demeaning because that is really an insult to the people of Saraveville.
And that I I try not to allow uh short of of getting them by the scruff of the neck. uh when you have someone who's u of that nature um you're just better off bearing through their five minutes and
then they leave wear them out. Um so that that kind of explains what's going on, the silliness, the anonymity. Um, one of the things if you notice we've put plexiglass partitions in in a lot of the hallways because the these people
would come uh you know seems everybody with an Apple iPhone is now a journalist and they would come they'd come into the into the offices and they just hover on your desk and claim first amendment rights and and under the advice of
council we just put up locked uh plexiglass partitions and We put up counters where they can come but they cannot come into the offices because the other thing is it it we're now living in a dangerous world. We haven't and nor
have I heard of anything in New Jersey where someone has brought a weapon to a council meeting. But that that some some and I use that term as the best descriptive phrase I I can have, will will probably do that.
And we'll end up going through metal detectors, just like the schools. Now, when you when you go see a kids play at the high school, you go through a metal detector. You go to a football game, you go through a metal detector. We haven't we haven't had to do that here yet, but
it's probably coming. So, uh, I take offense because I find people like this offend and and, uh, the people of Saril and and I just don't want to allow that. That being said, I'll take a motion for your Yes. Yes.
The first time I met these people, they came to a council meeting. It was just a few months after Ununice's death and this gentleman here literally accused John Zabraki of having somehow benefit from death and I wasn't muttering
underneath my breath then I said it very loudly and I was trying to say it very loudly again when they made the reference that somebody in the police department might have had something to do with you. I think everybody should just sit back and let the legal system
work. I can assure you with every part of my being that nobody in this town in this police department had anything to do with it. And I was trying I didn't realize that my light wasn't on if he would have heard what I had to say. And then I find it offensive that
he wants us all to hear what he has to say. He put my mask on. I couldn't understand he said. He's trying he's trying he's going for a lawsuited in what we hear. I bet you when the girls listen to the women who listen to the tapes, they're not going to understand. But there's one other thing, mayor, I
have to ask because it really wasn't as address. Is this going to show up on the agenda again before we have the opportunity? What would you like? Are you the liaison to sh Okay, so let's have an agenda. Let's put it on an agenda. The agenda for the next meeting to discuss. Sure. Thank I just would
wanted to show up back on the business meeting with Okay. Thank you. Um, Donna, did you have anything? No, Mayor, I don't. It's just been I I think we're losing sight over that we're working for the people of this town, and I have very I I can't
choose my words properly right now. Thank you. Your mother Your mother raised a very polite daughter. Okay, that being said, I'll take a motion for adjournment. Make a motion to adjourn.