Good evening everyone. I'm going to call this meeting to order. Would everyone please stand for a short prayer and a salute to our flag Jesus? Almighty God, grant us the wisdom to make those decisions that are in the
best interest of all our residents. May the heavenly father of us all bless those who have given the ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation and may he watch over and protect our service men and women now guarding the gates of freedom. Salute to our flag. I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Statement of publication.
>> Take notice that this regular agenda meeting of the mayor Burough Council being held on this 13th day of April, 2026 has been posted and advertised in accordance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 public law 1975. >> Roll call. >> Council persons blue Mayor
>> here. Kesi >> here. >> Novak Rios Sinarski >> here. >> Zabowski >> here. >> Okay. Uh at this time I'd like everyone to join in a moment of silence.
Councilman Rios's mother has passed away and he is attending what a good son should do in times like this. So with that, we'll send our prayers and our blessings to uh his mother, Mrs. for us.
>> Thank you everyone. Uh, council president, approval of prior minutes of the mayor and council. Uh, >> I move the following minutes, which is the March 23rd, 2026 minutes of the mayor and council be approved on roll call vote subject to correction if necessary.
>> Okay. Anything for executive? >> I need a second. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Is there a second for the minutes? >> Second. >> Uh, all in go ahead. >> Roll call. Council person Zabrouski. >> Yes. >> Blumare, >> yes. >> Khesi, >> yes. >> Zarski,
>> yes. >> Okay. Anything for executive session? >> Okay. At this time, I'm going to have the burough attorney, uh, Joe Sardillo, give a report. I asked him to, uh, research, um, the Zoom calls. And with
that, uh, counselor, if you would, please. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, it was, uh, um, been discussed in a couple meetings, um, of the council as to moving meetings, uh, to virtual or allowing virtual participation. And so I I looked into it
at the mayor's request and actually it's interesting there there is a lot of um confusion or uh misunderstanding with regard to public meetings and sorry I don't know if I was on uh public meetings and holding those uh virtually.
uh there's a lot of uh uh dispute in the municipal bar I should say uh as to the interpretation as to whether or not they're actually even permissible because uh previously the prior and I mean previously prior to CO uh those were not something that was conducted
during CO the New Jersey legislature adopted uh public law 2020 chapter 11 which added amendments to the open public meetings act specifically section uh you know 10 col4-9.3 3 were allowed for the holding of meetings to be held
uh by electronic equipment or you know in other words virtually. However, interesting that statute specifically limits those meetings to only be allowed to be held during a period declared pursuant to the laws of the state as a state of emergency, public health
emergency or state of local disaster emergency. Um it it specifically is limited the authority to hold those virtual meetings are specifically limited to those uh occasions. Uh while a lot of municipalities are still holding virtual meetings uh and uh
allowing virtual participation in those meetings um of public bodies after COVID and the state of emergency has been lifted. Interesting enough technically under the open public meetings act uh that is not really legally permitted. In
fact, there is a um a pending bill that was introduced by Senator Bob Smith uh that was introduced on January 13th, 2026 that looks to remove that section. It's looking it it's a pending bill in the state legislature looking to amend this provision specifically to remove
that language, the language that says during a period of um state of emergency, public health emergency or state of local disaster emergency from the statute. thereby uh as as the synopsis of the bill uh allows allowing public bodies to conduct meetings by
electronic means. Uh therefore, it's my interpretation of that is that if the virtual meetings were permitted and allowed to be done outside of these uh emergency uh uh declarations, then that amendment really wouldn't have been
required. So, reading those together, I think that the the virtual meetings really wouldn't be permitted uh under the current law. uh it would need that the bill that's been introduced and pending by uh Senator Smith would need to be adopted first. >> So uh that is okay
>> really the st the standard. Now I will say there are sorry mayor I just want to say there are towns that do hold still hold virtual meetings. Um but I don't know how where the authority comes from based upon my reading. The the other questions uh that has come up to me is
and I can remember when this was enacted through the legislature at the beginning of the century which allowed uh elected officials and and certain members of of board state boards and commissions to um in those days there was no Zoom. It was
just a conference call but you could call in you could call into the meeting. you did not have to physically be in attendance. And we have for as long as I can remember, if a if if an elected official here in Seville is out of town
for whatever reason, um they can call into a meeting and it's and it's uh perfectly permissible and they can vote and the vote counts. Um so just to cover those two things. Yes, mayor. On that point, just so you're aware, there is a
um un un uh reported appellet division decision that actually specifically states that that under the open public meetings act, the governing body members can attend those meetings virtual by a conference call or or the technology at the time. >> Well, I date myself when when I was on
the redevelopment committee in Trenton, there was no Zoom. It was conference call. Uh that being said, we'll continue with old business >> public hearing on ordinance number 3-26. An ordinance adopting an amended
Hercules plant site is identified as block 53.02 lot block 5401 lot 1.02 and 7 and block 14 lot one as shown on the tax map of the burrow of several in accordance with NJSA 4812A-7.
>> Okay. Before I open it to the public, uh, council president, if you could identify exactly what property we're talking about with the lot and block numbers. >> Yeah, spec uh I do know that the Hercules uh properties properties are numerous and and they expand over a
great piece of area. This is specifically the Sunshine Biscuits property or what we all know as a Sunshine Biscuits property um uh specifically at this point and it's a application for two warehouses the the
destruction of the current large and antiqu antiquitated uh warehouse and two to replace it. >> Okay. So the the current warehouse is located on the corner of Journey Mill Road and Bordontown Avenue. Uh with that
I will open uh the the u to the public. There is a five minute u curfew. >> I'm sorry John. >> Mayor if you don't mind I am going to make a motion but the motion is to table this for this time. Uh there are a number of questions that I've had of the
developer that have not been answered. So I'm asking that this be held in advance to the next meeting. That doesn't mean that anybody that's here this evening and I know there are there may be some discussion about data centers in general. I think we still should open it to the public for that but I do with those questions
outstanding I'd ask for this to be tabled. >> That I will do. So uh it's open for questions. Uh so anyone wishing to pose a questions or comment uh on this proposed ordinance please raise your hand and I'll call on you. Yes. One one
young lady. Ladies first, my friend. >> So, if you would state your name and address, please. >> Sure. Cassandra Dogy, MacArthur Avenue, Serville. Thank you, Vina, for putting together this comprehensive redevelopment plan for Journey Mill Road and Bordontown
Avenue. I would like to discuss the permitted use of the special economic development zone. And in the section 4.2 letter C, a permitted use for this is a data center. The land use classification for a data center includes facilities
that contain computer servers using data storage, data analytics, AI data, and cloud-based storage. This land parcel would allow for a midsize facility or campus. These facilities differ from traditional data centers that hospitals may use to
host their patient records. For example, in this land parcel, the size and the resource frame of a data center would greatly compromise the goals the redevelopment plan has written. It states, "Provide for sustainable and
viable land use, diversifying the local economy, and a minimum fiscal impact on municipal resources. The storage of a computer infrastructure requires large amounts of electricity to power the computers and large amounts of
water for their cooling systems. As a result, a midsize data center can consume more than 100 million gallons of water per year, roughly as much as a small town. As PGM and utility companies try to adjust for the pricing for increased
energy needs for this facility, the costs are passed down to everyday residents. And as a result, New Jersey households can expect to see energy bills rise by $20 per month or more along with rising water rates. And according to New Jerseyy's regional grid
operator PGM, data centers contributed to 70% of the increase in the demand during the 2025 2026 capacity auction, which is the same auction that resulted in the 20% increase in our electric bills for New Jersey.
The United States data centers consumed over 4% of the national electricity in 2024, but over 40% of that comes from fossil fuels. This means more power for data centers, strain on the grid, and
increased cost and pollution for Seville. Once the building of a data center is complete, relatively few local jobs remain as the data center is largely space for computers and their cooling and power infrastructure that outsources
labor. Many skilled workers travel from project to project across the country. But from a local economic development perspective, the academic research finds that there's no clear evidence of an association between data centers and local job creation.
It also compromises community public health and safety while utilizing large amounts of energy and water leading to the degradation of the environment discussed in municipal land use laws. And because of the size and scale of these facilities, many if not all need
diesel backup generators, which can admit 200 to 600 times more nitrogen oxides per kilowatt hour than the modern gas plant. Often these backup generators run in times of peak demand or in energy situations which can create severe
spikes of toxic air pollution. The residents living around the data center will be exposed to toxic air pollutants adding even modest generator emissions which contribute to greenhouse gas emissions can increase risk of asthma, heart disease and cardiovascular
disease. The closest residential apartment to the redevelopment area is less than a mile. The HVAC and the generator noise from a data center could reach up to 96 dB, which is well above the threshold for
hearing damage for an average person. Long-term exposure could lead to ringing in the ears, um, hearing and permanent hearing loss. Existing power grids and water systems could not rely um to support the 50 to
100 megawatt loads per midside center which would c um which without costly upgrades that would be shouldered by the p the taxpayer and put strain on municipal water treatment plants. These facilities rely on toxic chemicals for
cooling and maintenance which can be discharged into our water systems. I believe that the redevelopment should prioritize the investments in the renewable energy and energy efficiency that align with the state climate goals rather than fossil fuel burning
facilities. And to quote the redevelopment plan, the overarching vision for this redevelopment plan is to encourage a development that spurs the economic activity, creates jobs, and provides adequate infrastructure. Should I restart?
There's just a closer. Should I reintroduce or keep going? >> You got a little bit left to go. >> Just a sentence. >> Yeah. Um, and provides adequate infrastructure while protecting environmentally sensitive lands. I urge the council tonight to remove the
permitted use of the data center in this plan to better suit the project goals and to protect Sarville residents and surrounding communities. Thank you so much for your time. >> Okay. John, did you want to say something? No, I just uh after every all the public is speaking, I do know that Vina is here
this evening and she can speak specifically to that plan as well. >> Thank you. I appreciate that. >> Okay. Thank you, young man. >> Hello, my name is Shamar White. I am actually not a resident of Sailorville. My name is I'm an old guy with a proud
of me. >> My name is Shamar White. I'm not a resident of Serville. I'm a resident of Keyport. >> Everybody's welcome. Thank you. So, you go ahead. >> I work for the New Jersey Environmental Justice Alliance as a policy fellow and I'm the main person in charge of AI and data centers and so forth. Um,
>> you got to use, as I say to young people, use your use your playground voice. >> Okay. If you >> um, basically for my job, I work on data centers throughout the state. I look at the impacts. I look at what happens to the residents. We are a frontline organization, meaning we care about community members most. and we were
contacted by residents in Seville with a little bit of concern about this. Um, just like Cassandra said beautifully up there, everything she said is completely true. Uh, there is no economic benefit to data centers. It is a fallacy. This does not exist. Economic economists might say it. It does not play out in
reality. I've been to Vinland with data centers. I've been to New Brunswick with data centers. I've been to Kennaworth. I've been all over the state with data centers. And the outcome is exactly the same from midsize to hypers scale. These are not economically viable facilities or an industry. In with that as well,
they bring real environmental harms to the people that live in the municipality. Pollution is a real concern from data centers. Most data centers use natural gas or diesel power for their generation that like Cassandra said can release up to 200 to 600 more
nitrous oxide in the community. That could spread regionally, not just in Serville. I live in Keyport and I'm 20 minutes away and I'm an environmental commissioner for there as well. this would be a concern for them as well. Uh in regard to water, data centers use a guzzling amount of water on any degree
and 90% of the time it has to come from municipal supply and if it doesn't, it's kept passed on to the rateayer as a cost. This isn't a one thing. This isn't a two thing. This consistently across the board. I deeply urge this council, which we sent, my organization sent a
letter, this council um an email earlier. If you didn't read it, that's okay. But we urge you to make a difference and do something different with this redevelopment plan. This is not something that can go through. This is not something that should go through. And if you care about the residents of this town, it cannot go through. Thank you.
>> Okay. Are there any other questions? Ken. >> Thank you, Mayor. Ken Alaski an expert on data centers. I am not. Um I have heard many things in the past about
him that were positive some years ago uh through the financial uh times. Uh however, as with anything, some of the ugly things seem to be coming out now such as have been mentioned. I I just have one question here about the water
use. Um, we had permission to divert 10 million gallons of water per day from the South River. Um, do we know if that is still in effect? I know Jay knew something
about it in the past. >> Good comment. >> We we still have >> so so we we have a resource of and I'm I'm I'm not here to promote data centers. I say I don't know enough about them. Uh but we do have a resource of 10
million gallons of water a day. I don't know what kind of water data centers take. But with that resource there, maybe if one were brought in like is happening all over, it's becoming up to whoever cites it to take care of the
electricity and in some instances water. We also have another uh not in this specific area, but we have another good source of water from the Middle Sex County Utilities Authority. There is a lot of gray water uh which is discharged
into the Routton River uh over by a there's a discharge in near Routton Center and there's also one near the Southboy boat works. I'm talking about in the past I can't uh substantiate that they are there at this time but uh I
have talked in the past uh about the use of uh bringing in you know we all we all want tax ratables and and we're all for that and certainly nobody wants them more than me been around a long time. Uh however uh you
have to look at what your resources are and what you're good at and what you might be able to draw and and there's always been that the feeling that we could draw big water users because of that a lot of gray water that's
discharged in the Ritan from the MCUA. So I I just wanted to point that out especially with this project about the diversion from the South River. uh is something you might want to take a look at. Thank you very much. >> Thank you, Ken. Is it Robert?
Bob Duffy, 111 Merit Avenue. I want to thank the young lady. She was spot on on this subject. And uh I questioned the warehousing in several where they put it because it's
in a general area of a lot of industrial traffic. Usually warehouses are by big highways like the turnpike and usually main roads to get the to and from. Well, what is
happening is they're putting these warehouses up about 10 years before they really need them and they're going to turn them into data centers because they're not filling them up. People don't want to travel from the
turnpike to that warehouse in several take them 40 minutes when they can be in a warehouse right off the turnpike and be there five minutes. So, they're going to come to you and say, "We need some relief." And they're going to put data
centers in there. And what the young lady said is true. What it's going to cost to cool them is water and electric. So, just don't let them pull the wool over your eyes when they come to you.
There was a reason why they put those warehouses where they did and where they want to add more. Thank you. >> Thank you, Robert. Anyone else take a motion to close the public portion? >> We do that. Uh Venus want uh the
>> you want to do it before the >> Okay. Vina, if you'd come forward, please. >> Vina, can you explain the actual application and also your discussion with the developer? >> Sure. It might help this discussion. If you'd identify yourself, Vina. >> Sure. Uh, Vina Savant. Uh, I'm the Sarah
planner. Joe, do I have to put my qualifications? >> All right. >> But you need to speak closer to the microphone. >> Yes, I'm going to try my best. >> Okay. >> So, um, a lot of misconceptions. Um, the
plan u that I've been the plan that has been proposed uh is actually for a warehouse. it's not for a data center. Um, one of the primary reasons I've been working very closely with the developer, the one thing that everybody needs to be
reminded of is even without this developer being in picture. The site is been approved already by the planning board for a warehouse. Um, in fact, two buildings much larger square footage. So
there is a planning board approval for the same site for roughly 1.2 million square ft of warehousing. What is being proposed now is 300,000 roughly 300,000 square ft less than what is what it is
approved for. The developer is not proposing a data center. Um one primary thing is when a data center is built um you need much more building height you need at least three to four stories.
This is capped at 55 ft. A data center can't go in that location. The way the plan is written again the data center needs very minimum parking. What is being proposed is much more parking because it's going to be a regular
warehouse. I was having conversations with the uh developers engineer and actually we came up with a plan that should the council act on this redevelopment plan. One of the amendments would be to just eliminate
the data center use from the plan, the uh developer is amicable uh to that change because that their intention is not to build a data center. the way the bulk standards are written, they don't cater to a data center. And also the one
of the things the uh developer had mentioned to me is that a there isn't enough power to even operate a data center at that location. So I guess >> Thank you. >> So that means I I turn it to Mr. So that means that we could amend the
application. >> John, you need to speak. >> I'm sorry. We could amend the application to exclude the data center from that application. >> Yeah. Yes. If we want if the council wants to do it at a later time, it can always do it. If it wants to do it in connection with its adoption, then we'd have to reintroduce because that is a
per specifically permitted use. So it would be a material change. So while uh you know it is a separate document as an exhibit, we still technically would have to introduce reintroduce the ordinance uh if we want to do so at this time. Otherwise we can it can go forward with adoption uh now and then be amended at a
later time. A >> and Joe one more thing one last thing. I know there was a lot of discussion about sustainable development and um energy efficiency. The only reason that language is in there because the developer is actually uh targeting to
get a green globe certification uh which is similar to the lead certification wherein you have uh more energy efficiency uh introduced in the construction of the warehouse. It has nothing to do with the
data centers. So I just wanted it's the building style and it's a rating. So typically most uh developers would do lead uh in the in pre like 10 years ago lead was the only thing now there are other ratings that are being used and
this developer is using the green globe rating. >> I have a comment. >> Josh, go ahead. >> I'd like to make a comment to Mr. Oeski. He's spot on what he's saying about the water, which is a big concern for myself also. Uh 100 million g 100 million
gallons a year. That's that's astronomical. But MCUA does discharge water and there's a regenerate co-gen plant on the other side of the river on Keysby that uses the waste water from MCUA to cool their turbines and everything else in their aftercoolers.
So there is other water available, but I can't see using a 100 million gallons of portable water per day. Going back to the black and the gray, that means two different waters that are treated before going to MCUA. Black water is sewage.
Gray water is dishwasher, washing machine, stuff like that. The name of the water that's being treated that goes out into the bay is called effluent. Effluent water is the water that's being reused by certain people at this point. And that that's a valid point that we could use the water from MCU. And then
they pay to use it, and then they pay to discharge it again. So that's that's something and I'm and I'm only speaking about the water only. That's the only thing I'm talking about. >> Okay. Are there any other questions or comments being done? Thank you for >> Thank you. >> Okay. Mayor, if I may just uh since uh
procedurally since we opened uh the public hearing, I know the council president had mentioned making a motion to table, but at this point it won't be to table. It will be to carry the public hearing. Since it's already been opened, you're allowed while ordinance is pending, you're allowed to carry a public hearing multiple meetings. So
that way when we uh uh come back at the following meeting or whenever this is rescheduled, it will be uh just continuation continuation of the public hearing at that time. You want to take a sore vote of every everyone sitting here if they're in favor of uh removing the
data center from this plot of uh this this uh site. >> Hervey, >> yes. >> Sash, >> yes. >> John, >> yes. >> Mike, >> absolutely. >> Okay. So it will be removed. Um uh
this will be amended just for some serville history. I took office in 2000. At that time a company out of Philadelphia purchased um that used to be known as Sunshine Biscuits. They built they make bread and cupcakes and
all that stuff. Uh long story short, they wanted in those days it wasn't called a data center. It was called a web farm and and they bought this warehouse. Uh it was a million square feet and they
bought it to make it a web farm because Seville is crisscross at that time it was crisscross with fiber optics and we had redundant energy supply. So we checked the boxes. So I had Governor Whitman come who was uh anyway she came.
she gave us a grant to explore it. Um, and then the and then the data and the web farm market like collapsed or something before before they got to it and they just use it as a warehouse. It's not really suited for a warehouse
because the ceilings are only 16 ft and warehouses need a much higher height. They they stack the goods higher. So that's a little bit of Seville history, but it has been looked at for a quarter of a century. Uh because Seville
um Seville has it checks off a lot of boxes for people. Uh that being said, um next item or or what's what's the motion you need on this? >> It's actually um it's a motion to amend the plan which will require reintroduction of the ordinance at the
following meeting. >> Okay, John, if you would, >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. Yeah. >> Motion made and seconded. Roll call. >> Council person Zabroski. >> Yes. >> Blair. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Okay. Appointments tonight. Uh Recreation Advisory Board, a three-year membership. Uh it it I'm going to appoint Jim Rall. There's an unexpired term there. Uh, is there a motion?
>> Want to do it all together or >> We could do it all together. Okay. Um, there's a two-year membership. Uh, it's it's an unexpired term on the cultural arts. I'd like to appoint Billy Basa. And then there is an alternate number
one on the zoning board and I'd like to appoint Mitch Cooper to that. Is there a motion? >> Make a motion. Is there a second? >> I'll second it. >> Roll call. >> Council persons Zabrowski. Blumare. >> Yes.
>> Kesi. >> Yes. >> Dinarski. >> Yes. >> Okay. Next order of business. Jessica. >> Introduction of the following ordinances. Ordinance number 9-26 and ordinance
supplementing and amending ordinance number 3-24 fixing the salaries of certain burough officials. officers and employees for the years 2023 to 2027. >> Who second on finance? >> I am. >> John, if you'd introduce it. >> I move the ordinance be approved on first reading advertised according to
law and a public hearing be held on April 27th. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Council person Zabowski. >> Yes. >> Lumare. Uh, >> which is this? 12:26. >> 9:26. >> Yes. Khesi,
>> yes. >> Sarski, >> yes. >> Introduction ordinance number 10-26, an ordinance adopting an amendment to the waterfront redevelopment plan for parcel J to provide for the development of an age restricted inclusionary rental housing complex. >> Councilman Z Council President Zerowski
>> move the ordinance be approved on first reading advertised according to law and a public hearing to be held on April 27th, 2026. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Council person Zabowski. Yes. >> Blumeare. >> Yes. >> Liy. >> Yes. >> Uh, Sarski.
>> Yes. >> Ordinance number 11-26, ordinance amending the burrow's regulation and licensing requirements for fishing on burough property. >> Uh, Councilman Klesy. >> I move the ordinance be approved on
first reading advertised according to law and a public hearing to be held on April 27th. Is there a second? >> Second. Roll call. >> Council persons Kesi. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Dinarkski. >> Yes. >> Zerowski. >> Yeah. >> Ordinance number 12-26 calendar year 2026. Ordinance to exceed the municipal budget appropriation limits and to establish a cat bank. >> Uh, council president Sabrowski.
>> Mayor, before we uh we go, Danielle, can you just explain that because I know there's some questions as to what this is. Danielle, I'm really having a hard time hearing tonight. >> So, um, this is an ordinance that we pass every year, um, as part of the budget process and it allows us to
increase our appropriations from 2% allowed by law to 3.5% as a cost of living adjustment. Um, so one of the major um, benefits of having this ordinance is in place is that it also establishes a cap bank. So if you are
under your cap, you can use those the bank that you have established in the in the next two years succeeding budgets. >> Thank you, D. Um I move the ordinance be approved on first reading, advertised according to law and a public hearing to be held on April 27th, 2026.
>> Is there a second? >> Second. Roll call. >> Council person Zabrowski, yes. Blair, >> no. >> Kesi, >> yes. Sinarski. >> Yes. >> One Joe on the cap one for introduction.
>> It should follow. >> Okay. All right. >> It doesn't work. >> Okay. >> Okay. Next item. >> Uh open to the public on the resolutions. >> Okay. At this time, I'm going to open to the public questions or comments on the
resolutions. Other questions or comments? Can Ken Alaskable uh resolution 2026-97 authorizing execution of an agreement with Touch Bulbrbridge and Middle Sex for improvements to intersection of
Journey Mill Road and Bordontown Avenue. Can you tell me uh what this involves? Okay, >> mayor. As part of that project, there's some water mane improvements that need to be done. So, this is an agreement indicating the burrow is going to pay for relocating their lines and I think
there's another valve that they want installed. So, it covers burrow water improvements associated with the county's project >> and and the the project is for water uh >> the county has plans to improve that intersection, >> right? As part of that intersection
work, there's some burrow waterline relocation, valves, hydrant, some work that the burrow needs to have done. So, this is a sharing agreement saying the burrow is going to reimburse the county for the water work that needs to be done as part of that intersection project. >> So, this is preliminary to improvement
of that project that that road project >> that it's one of the final pieces. The county is looking to move forward with the construction. This is one of the final agreements that needs to be in place. >> Okay. I I have been uh I have been fighting for an improvement that
intersection for four or five years before the mayor is in this this next term. It was at the last mayor. Uh that is a very dangerous intersection when you're traveling when you're traveling east on Bordontown Avenue. You'll make that left in Journey
Mill Road. Uh there is no arrow. there is no um uh stopping the traffic uh going uh uh westbound uh giving them a green light second uh and it's very dangerous and people pass you on the
right at 50 and 60 m an hour. So um anything you can do I know I've talked to to council to council about this too. anything you can do to expedite that project uh with the county. I've talked to Jay, he knows that uh and he said the
county is working on it, but it's been taking a long long time. Anything be done to expedite that would be a benefit to the all residents of Cable and to their safety. Thank you. >> Anyone else? Robert.
Okay. 202699. The buying of uh pickup trucks. Can you tell me how many you buy a year >> roughly? Doesn't have to be exactly, Glenn. >> Well, it it waxes and waines because you
never know when trucks are going to reach their life's end or if the bodies rotted out. So, there's really no way to quantify it from year to year. on it. >> You could buy 30 a year. >> We don't buy that many. >> Huh? >> We don't buy 30 a year. >> Well, how many? You don't know how many?
>> Off the top of my head. I I don't know what we did this year, but >> Danielle, you have a educated guess. >> I would I would feel better looking into it and coming back at a later meeting. >> You get Bob a call when you get the number. What I'm trying to get at here,
we always go with some sort of state contract. >> Okay. Uh, I know if if the township bought them directly and got a fleet number, sometimes you can work a better deal when you buy five, 10 with a fleet
number from Ford. I don't know. Is the state contract cheaper? >> I'll have Danielle answer that because she's a qualified and a certified uh municipal purchasing agent. >> Well, it just seems a lot of money. 40,000.
>> Go ahead. For two trucks, >> Daniel, wait, Daniel, >> the only way that we can procure these vehicles is either through a state contract or bidding it on our own. Um, we have tried bidding vehicles in the past on our own, and we did not get any respondents to our request for bids,
especially for pickup trucks. >> Really? >> Yes. Yes. And Bob, I could tell you at 70 grand for an F250, we're getting a bargain. >> Probably come with plows also. >> Yeah. But an F-150 out the door now is in the 70 to $75,000 range. So it's
generally about 20% cheaper than a retail. >> Okay. Cuz I know when you have a fleet card, you get it really cheap. >> Well, the state contract is sim, if I may, Daniel. No, you go. You a state contract is every municipality, county
government throughout the state >> uses the state contract numbers. And so essentially you're buying at that fleet price. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Appreciate it. >> Any other questions or comments on the resolutions?
>> There being none, I'll entertain a motion to close the public portion. >> Mayor, I move the public hearing be closed and the consent agenda resolutions be approved on roll call vote. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Council person Zabrowski. >> Yes. >> Lumare.
>> Yes. >> Police. Yes. >> Sinars. >> Yes. >> Uh motion to accept the correspondence. >> There a motion. >> Uh motion to accept our communications. >> Is there a second? >> Make second. >> Second. >> Roll call.
>> Council person Zabrowski. >> Yes. >> Blue May. >> Yes. >> Please. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Correspondence. >> Just did that. Uh John for um admin and finance >> retirement resignations. >> Yeah, we did all that that in one
motion. >> Okay. All right. Council reports uh administration and finance. Uh Council President Zrowski, Progress Mayor. >> Okay. Public safety. Councilman Blmore.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. A big thank you to our police, fire, OEM, Morgan, and Sarville first aid departments for your presence and support in ensuring a safe and successful little league opening day this past Saturday.
Your dedication helps make events like this possible for our families and communities. Plus, it was an awesome day, right, guys? >> Thank you, Councilman. Uh, public works Councilman. Uh, who who's second on public works? third.
>> Okay, go ahead, Sash. >> I have a couple things on public works. The first one is I'm glad to see the street sweeper running around Saraveville. Uh if anybody needs making sure that their streets not attended, please get in touch with me and we will make sure your streets are also taken care of. Uh what I do like about them
using a street sweeper now, they have a tail, which is a dump truck riding behind them. And so instead of the truck riding to Sherwood Forest from from the burrow hall, they have the truck follow them and then he dumps right there. Before that, they would have to dump in a central location to get rid of the
debris that they they pick up. So this saves so much time and they get so many more streets done per day. Also, we have uh something different which I like Seville is doing. There's some people that are celebrating anniversaries as far as being employed by the burrow. Uh,
we have Dawn Mayor, eight years. Eddie Grella, eight years. Jeff Celelesi, two years. Jonathan Sabbo, four years. Nicholas Taspinos, eight years. Chris Barsley, three years. So, it's nice to see that the burrow recognizes people for their time that they spend working
here. Uh, because sometimes people put a whole career in somewhere and when you walk out the door, you hand your keys and you leave. But, it's nice that they're they're doing something like that. Uh that's all I have on uh on that one. >> You would you just dovetail into water sewer environmental?
>> Yeah, water and sewer. Uh I talked to you before about the water usage. Servil's up to uh what do we have for this month? 150 million g 156 million gallons of water that they used this month in
Sarabal. That's that's I'm sorry last month in Sarable. That's a lot of lot of work. Uh Mary brought up Buchanan Pump Station or Buchanan Street. I'm not sure what she brought up last week. Uh the issue was at Buch Buchanan pump station. Yes, they did have a sewer spill at
Buchanan pump station. It was taken care of promptly. The state was definitely notified. DA D was notified. Everything was cool. Uh pipe rusted on the discharge side of one of the pumps, caused this spill, and it was taken care of. Uh it's it's something that happens.
It it It's an incident. Okay. Uh uh the other thing on my side, I'm glad Cross Avenue was back open again. I'm sure there's a lot of residents happy with that one. Uh since I got the floor, I got one more thing about the electric motorcycles.
I in July, I've heard there's a new law coming out with this. I have had it with these things running around town. There is absolutely no control. They're running all over. I got to tell you about an incident I had by my house this weekend. A little boy, he was less than
10 years old coming down the street and he was zigzagging side to side, side to side. I politely stopped him and believe it or not, he stopped and listened to me and I spoke to him in the middle of the street for a few minutes about the safety of what he's doing and and I just could not believe. And who I want to
blame? The parents. The parents give this kid this bike to go out and no supervision, no nothing. And what the worst part about it was his chin strap was hanging on his helmet. He said, I told him, I says, "You can't ride this machine without your chin strap being
strapped." He says, "I don't know how." I didn't know how to answer that. How can somebody let their little son out of their house with a chin strap or not teach the little person, little boy, how to apply his helmet properly and then send them out? So my thing is toward the
parents, do not give your kids these machines unless you teach them or they take some safety classes or or more responsible because somebody is definitely going to get hurt. The end of my story. Thank you, Mayor. >> Thank you, Stash. Stash, did you want the the council uh the bureau attorney
to follow up on a on a use ordinance for those vehicles >> uh for discussion? >> Yes. Uh actually, mayor, we we uh the municipalities don't have the authority to adopt those ordinances. The uh law specifically prohibits that. There is a new law that was adopted though, right?
Yeah. Um >> well, it was already adopted. I think goes in effect in in July where no one under even the age of 16 can even drive those moving forward. And there are stronger regulations in the new law. >> This little boy was not even 10. And also, you would need a license. >> Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of new
regulations that because you if you don't have a driver's license, you have to have a special license or or ID permit that you get from the state to be able to drive this moving forward. So, the regulations are much stronger than they have been in the past. >> Yeah, I spoke to the chief about that. And you also will need uh it's basically
be just like uh owning a car. Insurance registration and Yes, >> insurance registration. >> Yeah. and analyze. >> If if I may, uh, administratively, we're going to approach the council probably at the next meeting. We're looking to amend an existing ordinance to prohibit
their use in our parks, particularly in view of the fact that we're making a big investment in the walkways for pedestrian activities, and we've seen some problems back here with the ebikes in the parks. We'd like to get ahead of that. That that's coming. >> Yeah. And that's we can the bureau does the authority to restrict the use of
them on its on its uh parks and private property or public property but not the roadways. >> Okay. Uh recreation Councilman Kazy. >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm happy to report that our uh recreation spring programming is off to a great start.
Adult pickle ball classes will begin April 24th and registration is still open for anyone interested in joining. We're also seeing a strong interest in our summer programs. Registration is open for Burks Park summer camp along
with our sports and science camps. These programs do fill up quickly. So, um encouraging families to register early and secure your spot at Kennedy Park. The story walk is currently being repaired by um our park supervisor Rich
Powlowski and his parks department and will soon be refreshed with a brand new story for families to enjoy. And a big thank you to the Saraveville Library Board of Trustees, especially Britney Coyle for pro for providing us with a
great addition the whole community of of all ages can enjoy and they can participate in those prizes and everything else that they do. It's really interesting and really nice. As we look ahead to our major community celebrations,
commemorative t-shirts for America 250 and Sarahville 150 are now available for pre-order. Orders are due by June 1st. Um, with a pickup scheduled for mid to
late June, so just in time for our Independence Day celebration, which is uh June 27th, that weekend. Additionally, I'd like to highlight a small but meaningful update at Kennedy Park Pond, which is one of the
ordinances we brought up earlier this evening. So, in partnership with the state's trout stocking program, residents will now be permitted to keep trout at this location. So, the adjustment allows us to meet state
requirements while expanding recreational opportunities for our residents. So, it's a great way to bring more families out, introduce kids to fishing, and make even better use of our parks while continuing our catch and
release policy in all the other areas. You can keep this trout if that's what you like. For our senior community, this is um so now my next report is Office of the Aging. So, for our senior community, we
have several upcoming events. Um, what? April 15th, they stop the species is going to be at 10:00 a.m. April 16th, there's a bus trip to the Columbus flea market. April
30th is a presentation by Innovative Physical Therapy at 10:00. This is all at our active adult senior center. So, um, next one's human relations committee.
So, April is volunteerism month and the human relations committee is recognizing some truly outstanding members of our community. Many of these individuals work quietly behind the scenes, but their impact is felt across our town.
From supporting the homeless and caring for animals to helping with community events, senior services, and emergency services. I'd like to acknowledge the following individuals which is Denise Morgan, Vicky Graasso,
um Butch Elsimi, Luena Amy, Curtis Annet, Uma Khan, Joyce Major, and Aloy Fernandez. Their stories and
contributions are being highlighted on the Burrow's Facebook page. and uh then it'll be on every other community platforms that we have in the in in town. So I encourage everyone to take a moment and read about their work. If you
see them around town, share your appreciation for everything that they do. Thank you. So the cultural arts committee is the next one which uh recently hosted uh teen night last
Friday. Uh, and I'm happy to report it was a great success. We had a strong turnout of Sarahville teens and feedback was overwhelmingly positive. So, everyone had a great time. A special thank you goes out to the committee as
well as the food trucks and vendors who helped make the night a success. And a big thank you to DJ uh Jarrett Lampin for uh providing the entertainment. So, um, teen night, the next teen is already scheduled. So, May 10th is that
date. The committee is also hard at work planning our summer concert series. So, uh, we look forward to sharing those dates with the community. So, then my final report, which is uh from the shade tree
um, in place of uh, Councilman Rios. So, the uh shade tree uh commission and our clean communities program uh will both uh be recognizing Earth Day on April 24th with uh separate but
equally important efforts. So, the clean communities will be organizing a park cleanup uh to keep our uh public spaces clean and enjoyable for our residents. At the same time, the Shade Tree Commission will be conducting several
tree plantings throughout the community. In addition, the commission will be dedicating a beautiful pink dogwood tree, generously sponsored by Colombia Bank in honor of Carol Lee WAC.
So, that tree will be planted at police headquarters as a uh lasting tribute. I'd also like to extend a special thank you to the vice chairman Ed Grella for
coordinating these efforts on behalf of the Shade Tree Commission. We appreciate the continued work of everyone involved in helping to enhance and preserve the quality of life in our community. Thank you. That's the end of your report.
>> Thank you, Mike. Uh, planning and zoning council president. >> Thank you, mayor. And, uh, Mike, thanks for bringing up volunteer, uh, month because what I'm going to ask from the council, uh, pertains to volunteers, and that is our first responders, particularly our fire department. Uh, I
appreciate Glenn and Danielle and the finance committee's uh, work on boosting up their uniform allowance for this coming year. Uh, and that's just part of the work. One of the things that I also would like to see is that we improve their LOAP uh contribution. For those
that don't know what the LOAP is, that's length of service award. Uh and it's utilized by those are first responders and there's specific requirements for it. The number of trainings that they have to go on, service calls that they make throughout the year. So in other words, not just because being a member doesn't mean that you're going to be
eligible for it. It's quite a bit. And as we do know over the years, the number of calls, service calls, not just fire calls, has become extremely high, but the number of members has become exceedingly low. In 1999, I bring that up because that's when we did low for
the first time by ordinance. There were 130 members, 130 plus members in the fire department. There's now about 66. So, there is a need to be able to retain and also recruit those members. I'm asking that the mayor and council
determine or not determine but move forward with increasing that amount. In 1999, it was at $750 for each member who made those requirements. $750. That hasn't changed with the exception of a little of CPI uh increases throughout
those years. So, it's extremely low in comparison to all the other communities. There's a couple ways to do this. It can be by resolution, it could be by ordinance, or more specifically by referendum. And the referendum may be the best available option because it allows our community itself to vote on
behalf of that members and show them their their how much they're enthusiastic and their contributions they made to our community. But I'm asking tonight, I don't know if it's by motion or simply by request for Glenn, Mr. Serillo as our attorney to get
together and Danielle to get together with our um our fire service members, our chiefs, and determine what the best process is and what the number would be suggested for that contribution increase as we move forward and bring back a report to us so that we have an opportunity to make what would be an
appropriate um action on behalf of the uh the first responders, our fire department. >> Are you looking for a motion or just a direction? motion. >> I think historically what we've what I've done here in Sville and the council has done it by motion when we uh >> then I would be making I would be making
a motion asking for a second >> and I'll second it. Roll call. >> Council person Zabowski. >> Yes. >> Blair. >> Yes. >> Kesi. >> Absolutely. >> Zarski. >> Yes.
That's to authorize Glenn to meet with uh fire department, >> fire chiefs. Okay. >> And uh mayor, just to end my report very quickly, te night was great. It really was like a block party. Very enjoyable. Sarah Lily, I agree with her. Um great
day. The number of uh young uh really u six and under that are joining T-Bull uh that their numbers have never been stronger. It's outstanding. Uh and uh Sunday we all uh attended the Bick annual banquet and uh just uh again
a shout out for those volunteers and the specific and precious work they do for our special community. Uh and that's my report. >> Thank you, John. Um two uh several things. First thing is I I went to the Saveville opening day
parade on Saturday and it was fabulous. it it's like the the highlight of my year. Um the inter the nice thing to report one one of the trustees um came up and told us since we took
away the the the uh barrier of entry of of registration fees and uniform fees the numbers are escalating. You know, it can't be a better wish in our town for the kids, all the kids to be involved in activities, whether it's
athletics or some other activity. And and that ordinance from last year seems to be working quite well and more and more of our of our children are getting involved in in the in the sports because there's no obstacle anymore. The
obstacle was removed. Uh second thing, um I'd like to put together a committee for our BA. Uh he is working and has been working for some time without a contract. I'd like to ask Council
President uh Zabrowski and Councilman Blmore to be that committee uh to work with our BA coming up with a new a new contract. Thank you for volunteering, Herby and John. That being said, uh several
weeks ago at the senior center were active adults, uh the the Jupiter uh power company had a very large and very thorough public presentation for a project they're looking to build where
the old coal fueled electrical plant was. Uh, and while while I was there and Councilman there, practically everybody was there. Long story short, I got in a conversation with Councilman Blur and he said that he thought it would be a good
idea if we did that same kind of presentation with the prospective new cable company. And since you're kind of our IT guy here, Councilman, uh, I'll leave it to you to elaborate further on what your
thoughts are and and we'll if if you say pull the trigger, we'll we'll go ahead and get it done for you. Well, um I I'm thinking if we have the people come in and they're able to explain to the residents
uh what the best way to use whatever it is that they're trying to uh present to us. Uh for instance, with the cable company, it basically when you build it, it they will come. If you build it, they will come. What it is is that a lot of people were asking questions, is it
going to cost me this? Is this going to cost me that? Is this going to be uh uh because of this? Uh how cuz I had this with Verizon. I had this cable vision. Can we have this? Can we have the bottom line is when when these guys come in, they'll have people there that would
tell you exactly what's happening so that at least you have a better understanding of what's going on. Um, for instance, obviously if the cable company were to we have another cable company that would spur competition and of course competition is good for
everyone. Now you're paying $60 for cable vision. Now that this competitor you might be ending up paying 30 40 depending on what kind of services you want. The presentation will answer all kinds of questions that you may have
that will not be limited as to when you are here uh to only having five minutes to ask questions. So by way of instruction we will ask uh the business
administrator to start arranging that and to coordinate it with you so that it meets your specifications. I thought what Jupiter did was very good because I don't think there was a subject matter that they missed. They had their engineers and their professionals at all
those points in in in uh in the hall uh at at the I call it senior center and it was nicely attended. By the way, the the local electricians union took their apprenticeship class and moved it from
where they would normally have it. They moved it to that room and all the apprentice electricians went through point by point there and they the the president or the vice president of the union later told me he said it was truly truly uh excellent for for the young
electricians. It was a great presentation. >> Oh no, I don't um you remember these people are trying to sell us something which is great. I don't have an issue with that. Only thing is a lot of the um what was being presented we may we didn't have somebody else
>> to counter you know you know what I mean I mean it's when >> on a cable >> right um you know so uh everything else because I don't I love when the more information you get the better but we also need the experts somebody on our side uh to be able to counter whatever
they're saying after all I'm I'm trying to >> when you think I don't listen I do listen >> okay >> so uh Glenn will will make those arrangements and and coordinate with you. >> Sure. >> Okay. And thank you for volunteering once again. >> Okay. That being said, uh general
discussion items. >> Yep. Application for extension of premise permit received from several liquor license trading as the bar located at 1899 Highway 35 to extend the license premise for a benefit on May 5th, 2026 from 1 p.m. to 10 p.m. I did receive approval from the police
department. >> Any objection? Next item, >> authorization for the tax collector to refund taxes and cancel all subsequently build taxes due to 100% disabled veteran tax exemption for five Czecho court in the amount of $3,83.85.
>> Any objections? >> Authorization to renew liquor licenses for the year 2026 to 2027. >> Any objections? Next item. Subject to the police recommendation. >> I got Yeah, I got their approvals already. a resolution expressing
concerns regarding the implementation of public law 2025 chapter 180 um Senate Bill 3041 and proposed regulations impacting cooperative purchasing. >> Uh any objection? Next item. >> Request to travel received from several
engine company to attend their annual golf outing at Pebble Creek Golf Club in Colts Neck on April 24th. >> Any objection? Next item. Application for membership as a fire fighter received from Ishol Roas accepted by at their March 2nd meeting.
>> Any objections? Next item. >> Authorization to purchal escape systems and training from all hands fire equipment of wall New Jersey through source well contract in amount not to exceed $71,665.60. >> Any objection? Next item.
Awarding a contract for HVAC and boiler equipment maintenance, repair and replacement to MCO services of Allentown and amount not to exceed 53,000. >> Any objection. Next item. >> Authorization to purchase a salt dome cover from Clear Span Fabric Structures International Inc. through Source Well
Contract in amount not to exceed $66,674.85. >> Any objection? >> That's it. >> Okay. Progress there. >> Okay. Uh Danielle, >> thank you. Mayor progress. >> Okay. Uh Jay Cornell, Burough Engineers
report. >> Thank you, Mayor. One item. The improvements to Cheesequake Road projects been completed recommending a resolution closing out the contract and a resolution approving a net decrease change order. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh borrow attorney's report. >> Uh thank you, mayor. Uh on behalf of Sarah, I was asked to uh present this as
a it's a um uh Sarah needs the borrow to authorize two agreements, a pledge and assignment agreement and a revenue collection agreement in connection with the uh Sarah's bonds and the financial agreement for the Rivertown uh re uh redevelopment project. We will have uh if acceptable and the resolution's on
for the next meeting, we will have representatives of Sarah, specifically their bond council to come to answer any specific questions you have regarding these these agreements and the uh the need for them. Any objection? Next item. Nothing. Okay. Public portion. A public portion is questions or comments on any
you're first. On any and all issues. Um five minute uh limit. Please come up, young lady. >> I love that you call me young. >> Good evening, mayor, council members, and members of the public. My name is Susan Mckitis and while I live in
Atlantic Highlands, New Jersey, I'm here on behalf of Food and Water Watch. I head food and water watch uh which is an organization with two million supporters uh fighting sustain or in support of
sustainable food, clean water and a li livable climate for us all. I had sent emails to everybody on the council. I hope you receive them. Um, mayor, yours got bounced back, so I apologize for that. Um, but the New Jersey legislature
will be considering the make polluters pay to make New Jersey more affordable S2338 and A3735, a bill that would force polluters to pay for the damage they have caused to our
environment. It was formerly known as the New Jersey Super Fund Act, similar to bills passed by the state of New York and the state of Vermont. We currently have the support of 43 sponsors in the state assembly, 19 sponsors in the state
senate, and 75 municipalities and counties supporting this bill. But we need your help. Superstorm Sandy is still a painful memory for many of us. You know better than most that Saraveville is vulnerable to the effects of climate change. If passed, any
municipality in need of climate change adaptation and resilience would be able to apply for the funds raised by the act. If passed, it is estimated the act could raise an estimated 50 billion,
that's with a B, over the next 20 years. This is a great opportunity for Sarville to support a bill that would provide funding at no cost to taxpayers. Will you support this bill by resolution at your next burough council meeting? I
have included summary documents and address resolution uh that was emailed to all of the council members. Many thanks in advance for your anticipated support and I'm available for any questions. >> Okay. What I'm going to recommend, >> yes,
>> is there's a young lady in the back or did she Did she leave? >> She left. Okay. Timing's everything, >> right? >> I will have I will put you in touch if you have uh a contact card on you that you can give our clerk. >> Yes.
>> I'm going to have uh our re our environmental commission call you. I'm going to ask you to make your presentation and have a thorough Q&A with them. And then based on on their recommendation, we will either take action or not take action.
>> That's fair. >> Okay. >> Happy to do that. >> Is everybody in agreement with that? >> Okay. So, you waited this whole meeting. You are you are committed to your cause. >> Um, a couple of things just as a a
reminder that there are u fact sheets that I provided via email and also a sample resolution. >> Okay. Do Jessica, do you have a card? >> I have I got it, but it was too late for the agenda. >> Okay. Okay. So, you have it, but let let me give you Jessica's contact
information. >> And I have >> She's our clerk and she's the gatekeeper for >> everything but the paycheck. >> And I also have cards that I can give you. >> Okay. So, if you would give it to Nicole or Jessica,
we'll be good. We'll get you. We'll I'll ask Ernie to put you on next meeting. >> That'll be perfect. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Are there any other questions or comments for the open public portion? Ken and I'll ask you uh I too mayor was at
the uh the Jupiter presentation and um quite a few people there. uh we asked some questions, but uh obviously Jupiter had a lot of paid professionals there on their behalf. Uh what I'm hoping is
that's not going to replace having a public hearing here uh at this governing body uh so that everyone in the burrow can hear the questions, get the answers and that have professionals here uh to
educate us and ask the appropriate questions on our behalf. And I'm saying, you know, this is kind of a complex issue. Um, you hear all the stories and read uh the places in Long Island that have fought uh these battery storage
facilities. Uh you hear all the time on the news about um blowing up and causing fires and blah blah blah. So I think we we need professionals in that field. With all due respect to uh people like
uh Jay Cornell and and whatnot, I'm not talking about those professionals. I'm talking about the people who are experts in this because it's a complex issue. It's a serious issue. I may have spoken to the governing body before about the
fact that God forbid there is a fire or something. The first thing happens is the insurance company wants to raise everybody's rates. And generally going by what happened in Sandy, um they go by
zip code. Uh they'll take 08872 and want to raise everybody's rates. So I don't want to be labor this. Uh again, it's something I don't know a lot about. I want to learn more about it. But I I hope that is done here and I hope we
don't use that uh the demonstration they had uh as a substitute for having come before this governing body. Thank you. >> That was it. They did that in addition at the request of the governing body. They did that in addition to all the
normal process and procedures that land use requires. So they will come before the governing body and it will be open to the public for questions. Uh as is everything that uh all all land use issues come before the governing body. So
>> and and I believe there'll have to be some changes in uh in zoning to allow that. >> That I don't know John Hume would know more about that. >> Uh there there may be Ken. Uh and that will be part of the review process with Sarah as well. And remember, it'll also
go to the planning board afterwards and it'll come back to the mayor and council. So, there's at least three sessions for public hearings and participation could be more. Also, the issue of uh of having the right experts. We all agree. Uh and both both Sarah and the planning board, as Jay knows, is
there's escrow monies that'll be put up that will allow us to be able to obtain those or take those services if necessary. Um, one of the things that Sarah has done in the past is they've already looked into an energy consultant because this is, as you said, it's complicated, it's different, and we just
want to make sure that um that we're doing right for the community. So, uh, yes, to answer your question, probably longer than you needed, but there there's opportunity for public uh, just so you know, too, our first responders are part of this discussion and they have been uh they have been and they'll continue to be as well. And I want to
make sure that we find out what are the benefits to serville. Is uh uh is this going to be something that's taxable? Uh what will serville residents get? I know by by helping the energy grid that obviously will help. We certainly need
that here. I've stood this microphone talked about it before. I think you've talked about a little bit. So we know that. But uh putting it in Woodbridge or any other place will help the energy grid do. What specifically will Sarahville get out of this? Right. Thank you. >> Agreed. Thank you.
>> Are there any other questions? Robert, >> this should be the last. No more. >> Uh Bob Duffy, 111 Merit Avenue. Uh on Stasha's thing about the motorcycles and
the children with it. Uh, in today's New Jersey news, motor vehicle stated they'll be ready for July 1st >> with all of the uh reserv uh res >> license and registration, right? And
there's three different categories, one, two, and three. The one, uh, everyone has to be registered. Okay? And they're going to come up with a sticker to put on it. Uh uh there's a couple in our ne in my
neighborhood and I said something and now the father wants to fight me. You know what I mean? So, I just hope uh John if you could reve uh to Dan
to try to enforce into the police officers that it's not a waste of time by pulling a kid over, checking them out may save that kid's life.
Okay? In the beginning, a lot of them ain't gonna know about the law and stuff. So, but you may be saving a child's life that by making sure or going to the parents and say this has to be registered or confiscating it or
whatever they're going to do, the outcome would be better than the parents crying at a funeral. Robert, in addition to the registration and and that that part of the equation for me, the the one of the paramount things is
training. Just like you don't you don't just get a license plate and go out and drive. You have to be trained and you have to pass the test. And and I would assume the legislature is is addressing that issue. Yeah. the the the the even the bicycles, the pedal has to be
registered. Now, if it has a motor or electric, anything, the little scooters that they put the electric on the back of it has to be registered. But I just hope that the the police officers in Seville take it seriously.
>> They take our kids very seriously. >> Yeah. Because you may save a little kid's life. >> Yep. Thank you, Robert. >> Yeah. Um Again, uh the chief did send a saying that um it's a new ebike and e
scooter regulations requiring 17 plus to have a valid driver's license while 15 16 year old needs a motorized bicycle license to ride. >> Yeah, they have to be from the motor vehicle agency >> and it has to be certain of them has to
be registered and insured. They have a grace period till July 19th >> and then um after that with no fines and wave registration fees for the first year. >> It's it's good to have a law on the books but the law means nothing until
you enforce it. That's the key. And and I understand the police officer I don't want to be bothered with that. That's nonsense or something. You never know. He may be busy on something else or the but you got to take the time in the beginning. I would say at least the
first six months there's going to be a lot of it and once you deter that and the parents get educated you know what I mean that after that you won't see as many on the road as you do
today because they're running wild. Thank you. >> Thank you Robert. >> Any other questions or comments? Being no other questions or comments, I'll entertain a motion to close the public portion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Roll call. I All in favor?
>> I >> I >> opposed. A motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> All in favor? >> I >> oppose. Thank you everyone.