e than good evening everyone the Zoning Board of adjustment meeting for February 26 2025 it's now in session will everyone please stand for salute to the flag I pled alance to the flag the
United States of America to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible notice of the meeting has been satisfied in accordance with chapter 231 pl1
1975 by advertising in the home News Tribune notifying the Sentinal Publishing Company The Star Ledger and also posting on the bulletin board and filing with the burrow clerk roll
call Mr Green here Mr kazinski here Mr Esposito here Mr Emma here Mr Bella here Mrs scin here Mr Castle Grant here miss gandi here before we start this meeting I want to
make a reference the last month's meeting on January the 22nd 2025 I need to thank Anthony espito for running that meeting the reorganization and the applications on very short
notice with myself and chairman Tom kachinsky great job that you did I also want to thank the board for voting for me as your chairman for the year of 2025 I thank you
all congratulations to Alec fiser our burough attorney Jay Cornell our engineer Michael Fowler our planner and John Kimbell our secretary all being voted in by our board for the year 2025
at our reorganization meeting and yes I did watch last month's meeting on TV from home as I could not attend the meeting I thank you all I now turn the meeting over to our vice chairman Tom kachinsky to proceed with
the applications and the resolutions for tonight's meeting okay thank you Mr chairman and I'd like to thank uh the board members for voting for me again to serve as vice president I'm taking over the rest of the meeting Ron is still
recovering uh but I'm sure he'll be ready next meeting to to do the whole meeting and I had a bout of the flu at the last minute that's why I couldn't show up at the last meeting and I'd like to thank Anthony also for
pinching so uh the first case tonight is Clyde Auto Recycling case 161 12 uh good evening uh Peter Claus over at the firm hbr Pape nice to see you uh here Mr chair uh Mr Vice chair members
of the board um the board's pretty familiar with this application I would think at this point we were here last uh summer uh explaining the the status of sort of the holdup and and the obstacles that we faced we accomplished quite a bit um getting our D approvals in place
getting a resubmission to the county and place came back in September and uh gave the board a status update and had some High Hopes with the contractor that we had retained uh to get the the balll rolling uh that contractor for health reasons I'm told and I have Clyde here
he'll speak to you um said I can't do the job anymore so uh our client scrambled uh I found a new contractor has some things to tell you I'll let him uh share with you uh where he's at and what he's done and then in the beginning of this year in January 8th uh the
county required certain improvements contributions uh and uh bonds to be posted those were posted and delivered uh to the county um the outstanding issue which I learned today actually thanks to Mr Cornell uh with the county is the contractor has to file for a Road
opening permit for the county so that is a condition precedent to Mr Cornell being able to issue a building permit but I think we're in position for that now as Clyde will explain we have a contractor and he got signed and sealed plans today uh of all days um so if I
could I'd like to ask Clyde to come up be sworn and share with you what he's gone through and and where he's at right now and what his hope is uh for the next steps yes I do thank you please State please state your name
and your address Clyde Cameron from Clyde Auto Recycling 6000 Main Street South Amway thank you sorry oh it's okay Clyde you heard me introduce if you could just share with the board what happened over the last
month or so and and where you're at and what you got today in the mail as Peter mentioned um our previous contractor he backed out due to health reasons um after our last meeting we were ready to proceed all the the um holdups with the town have been taken care of and
followed up for several weeks and finally he said he can't meet the deadline he's going to have to pass on the job um at that time we had to find new quotes we found a contractor U paid our deposit and we just got our sealed plans
today so once we take care of the um Road opening permit we'll be ready to apply for building permits we're we're ready to start building any weather concerns it's still winter or at at this point I'd like to say we're okay um it was a little difficult finding a site work contractor
not too many people wanted to talk to us you know January early February given the cold um we did find a company that we're ready to move forward with and um you know they're now they're waiting on waiting on us to give the green light so our next step will be to get that Road opening permit and should be good to go
what's the road opening permit for Jay you want to comment on that Mr chairman that's a condition of the county since it's a County Road they need to obtain a permit from the county before they can do any work in the county RightWay so once the permit application is made the county will issue a letter to the town
saying that they met all the county conditions of approval and the county has no objection to a building permit being issued once I get that letter I can sign off saying that all the conditions of the zoning board's resolution have been satisfied and then it can go through the process to the Construction office the zoning officer will review the plans and the
construction code officers will review the plans and then he can receive his building permits and get started what work are they doing in the right away is that a sewer connection or uh their curb Cuts I think are changing and they've got uh I think it might be a utility connection as well either water service
or sanitary there's also yeah there's a handicap ramps too at the corner contribution I think that they had that nothing unusual okay uh all these permits that you received do we have any documentation that there it's done as
was testified at the last meeting the D I have all the signups from the D that was an issue a while ago so that's all been resolved the only issue that we need is a letter from the county saying all their conditions have been satisfied and as Mr clauser indicated I contacted him today just to let him know that I
hadn't received that yet and he was surprised since they submitted bonds back in January so they were able to find out that that Road opening permit is all that that's needed before they get that permit yeah today immediately I called up our engineer Frank from grot and I said Frank could you please go get me answers uh from the county I thought
when we submitted the bonds that the county would issue their letter to the municipality and he got through to the that Road opening department and we got an answer today uh that that's the only thing that's open it's a $250 uh per fee and apparently the contractors usually take care of it so
that's what we will have done here okay so uh what do you need from us another extension I guess if the extension is yeah I think if you pick I I would respectfully ask that the board continue the extension we've been trying to stay in communication with you I reach out to
Mr Fischer as my deadlines come up I did in January uh reach out to him and he uh was kind enough I'm sure with Consulting to the board to say see if you can get a little further before you get into February but site contractor weather uh just didn't get any further so uh I
would ask if the board would would would pick out a couple of months from now uh and pick another date to keep my fee to the fire and I can report to Mr fiser that you know with with what we anticipate we're we're done and we're moving forward I I have a question based on
your experience and also Jay based on your experience how long do you think it's going to take to get this letter from the county on this Mr chair to be honest it's a use attorney I get out of these projects before we get to construction I've been involved in this
so long that I've wanted to stay with them to help them get all the way to the Finish Line I'm usually on to the next one so I don't I don't it seems ministerial at the county it's a matter of of filing for a permit almost like a building permit so I don't I don't know
if Jay can help me a little bit I'm not sure if he even knows again it is something that usually it's beyond us it's the guy that are that's actually going to do the work now that goes and gets those permits but it it seems to me from the County's answers today that it's ministerial fill out a piece of paper and send us in a check I would
agree Mr chairman I think it is basically just submitting the application that actually goes to the road department I think road department will advise the County Planning Department that they received the permit application fees and they issu the permits and then the County planning office can send that letter out saying
all their conditions have been satisfied and a building permit can be issued by the town okay [Music] two month all right so uh we're going to propose an extension of two months so
that would be March and April I guess April 30th would be a good date uh Mar yeah and uh I don't know if you have to come back I guess if you have an issue you'll have to come back and explain what's going on hopefully you
won't have to come yeah and I and I I said that last time uh and then you know a contractor gets out on your you know but um I'll do what I've been doing and I'll reach out to Mr fiser and tell him if I'm having any issues but I think the point that we get Mr Cornell to sign off on a building permit we we should be
finished with this exercise okay any board members have any questions comments any professionals want to say anything I know Jay's already spoken okay anybody in the public wish to comment on this application I don't see
anybody so uh I'll entertain a motion for an extension of two months I make the motion to extend the application for two months second roll call vote
Please Mr Green yes Mr kazinski yes Mr ESO yes Mr emna yes Mrs gin yes Mr Castle Grant yes Mr B yes Mr thank you very much thank you good luck thank you stay on the
mend next uh application is case number 2504 Eco engines 57 Washington Road bulk variance assign go ahead good evening Mr chairman
board members good to see you all this evening this is an application for approval to permit the applicant place a sign upon the existing building located on the premises together with a waiver for site plan requirements and variances
for maximum sign size sign height and sign illumination and such other variances and waivers as the board May deem appropriate this evening for the properly identified as 507 Washington Road sville New Jersey block number 205
lot number five um will be calling one witness uh to testify with regard to this application and that would be Charles Hy Jr who is a representative of the applicant um and I apologize my name is
Michael Paige I represent the applicant I'm the attorney for the applicant if I didn't state that on the record um when I first got up here you know who you are so um without further Ado I'd like to call up um Mr
H hell I do you state your name and your address Charles um from T Barbara please SP the last name please Hy is h l and Mr Hy you're the representative of
the applicant Eco engines Inc yes I'm a managing member of Eco engines LLC okay and the applicant uh Eco engine Inc owns the property which is the subject of the application yes we do and when did Eco
engines acquire the property we required it in July of 2022 and prior to uh or at the time of Eco engines acquiring the property uh the property was used as an auto service station yes it was George's Auto
Repair and ecoengines Inc has continued to use the property as an auto service station correct that is correct yes and you've brought this application before the board seeking approval for a sign to be placed on the building that's located on the property yes that's correct and I believe you've included in your
application materials a rendition of the sign um and which also shows its dimensions and location on the building yes that is correct if you would please tell the board in your own words uh what it is that you're you're requesting of the board this evening uh I'm just
requesting sign for the front uh re renovated the whole place and I like just a nice signage on front that shows the business name and so people can see it from the curb side especially customers since I'm relocating to easily find the the premise and that's that's
pretty much it and the as indicated on the rendition uh the dimensions of the sign are indicated as is the location of the sign um as well yes yes that is correct and the sign is also going to be lit correct
it's going to be illuminated correct um I have no further questions for Mr H uh the illumination is back lit uh the lettering is going to be lit the lettering I don't think there's any backlight to it like a neon kind of thing or yeah almost like a neon but
it's going to be led and each letter will be lit there's no backdrop to it or anything like that all is it going to be turned off after business hours uh I was I would like to keep it on after business hours um in the throughout the night I do it is going to be on a dimmer
switch um to control how many lumus it's going to be putting out um but it's I could set it to a timer um to turn off at like 10 o'clock when it's no longer needed so forth right is there's some some way we can kind of
quantify like how bright it's going to be at night um I can get in touch with the people that are producing the Sun and get like a lumen count for you um that's a little bit out of my roome I know I know headlight bulbs and what they produce
okay well yeah but I don't you know he's gonna dim it but well you're setting it in a timer turn off at 10 yeah yeah it all yeah there's no need for it to be on in the middle of the oh oh sorry I misunderstood okay so it's it's gonna be completely off at 10 yeah yeah okay 10
o' I thought you were gonna dim it at 10 o' no I'm just saying if it's if it's way too bright if the sign when they put it up and then it's you know know it's you can obviously I can always control the the how much is necessary just concerned about it being on all night long no no okay uh can our planners do
you know the variances required on this yes I was only aware of a square footage variance not of a variance for elimination or height maybe might be able to help me on that but the the sign prob is located the R7 residential
district uh and the largest building signs allowed in the district is a um but there's not it says sign even in there r s allow to be illuminated and when it comes to height just there no indication
of a height requirement so I think you're fine for height illumination but there was no actual calculation on the on the plan but doing just running the numbers and maybe Jay's better numbers than I am but I'm getting a sign area of
about 86 Square ft um building is located the Z it ised station sorry service um there will be allowed a maximum sign of 50 square feet based on
the length of the building it's One S to put a building with um so again in the B2 zone or B3 Zone you would good allow a 50 square sign uh and the or seven down eight Square sign you're opposing approximately
86 87 sign I'm not sure if you had actual number from sign yeah well I just I did the the bath on the the dimensions the height by width it was I come up with 8839 square feet um and then the the variances that I was looking at was
um it may be an older but it was a signed schedule specifically for garages um that was contained in the zoning ordinances so um so uh in either event we're going to need the variance for the
the maximum sign signage uh size uh and then again what what I was looking at in the zoning ordinances maximum sign height showed 12 inches um again unless I'm I'm looking at something that's not applicable
here yeah I think what we was trying to say is that there was a provision under service station whether it's gasoline or Auto not familiar with the service stations yeah it it was a square footage it was a square footage yeah it was in
in the um in the zoning package it was under uh sign schedule uh for public garages and motor vehicle service stations uh and it showed the maximum size for a
building sign uh permanent sign it said six square feet uh and eliminate illumination permitted said no and the such sign shall not exceed 12 Ines in height so those were the three variances
that I had put um it do sense for yeah he found again 6 8T right yeah and it's and it's um the sign that he's proposing is very similar there's other um service
stations along Washington Road there uh there's Barry's Automotive uh which has Barry's Automotive across the whole front of the building uh certainly the lettering is big bigger than 12 in I believe that's illuminated uh as is the mobile one uh service Lube uh that's a
little further down the road so um um again it's it's up to the board but I think it's it's in line with what's out there in the community as well building is 50 foot wide and sign just about 25t wide so it's about half the length of
the building the board is in Cent to Grant it you can do a belt and suspenders all the variants of whether or not they're actually needed okay Mr chairman also there were signs there before for Jo Auto Body there were signs
one said to Truck Repair phone number the other one said New Jersey inspection so I Pi any wants to see what we there I think the sign looks fine it's a great fit uh you know it's little artsy
which is fine it's not just letters board members have a question about the sign I have a question um first of all thank you the the place looks amazing thank you job let me tell you work what color is um the song going to be it's going to be white lettering
the a is going to be a green and then it's going to be underlining green with a little little vehicle that looks like it's riding up the the egg very cool and just just some advice I pushed the board a little bit be if 11 12 whatever they want to give you because cars bu you
know what's it worth to you how many cars go byy from between 10 and 11 that see your sign you know I mean yeah I mean it is I know I know you guys don't want it all night I understand that but what's our what's our maximum that he can cuz it's not res across the streets of business there's no people in in the
cemetery right yeah I don't think one in front of me and then you got the restoration hair salon to the left of camarad so there's really no one across what's the maximum that we allow oh it is there's no M okay well and I I think that's why the the applican at the very outet was saying
that he'd like to keep it on all night certainly it's not going to be super bright so that it's you know bothersome to anybody or distracting to any drivers but this way it's kind of advertisement so that if people are driving by at 11 o'clock at night oh I didn't know that
there was auto service station here and um maybe I'd like to try those guys out so you know all the other businesses you know Wawa is open I don't know I think they're open 24 hours their lights on um go that just go down right down the street from me a car dealership that has
spotlights on all day oh yeah okay yeah so what are your hours at your business my hours are Monday through Friday 8:00 am to 5:00 p.m I do Saturdays by appointment only and we're Clos on Sundays so really you're you're closing at five
o'clock techic yeah usually I don't get out of there till about 6 but yeah and this is the actual picture of what it's going to look like right the two bays yes yes it's exactly how it's going to be I have no no trouble with
this application okay does any members have a problem with leaving the sign on all night since it's uh going to be on the dim side no yeah if you that's that's fine it's just something to catch the eye if you cross that would be that would be more
than okay I got a question if it's obnoxiously yeah's you can dim it he can what's the process well I mean we'll put in the resolution um if the board approves it that um he
required to it to the uh I guess the lowest setting at from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m something like that um and uh so as long as he's doing that then they'll be in
compliance if he's not doing that then the zoning off will go out and take a look and say you're not comping like is it g to be it get he di it 10 o' he thinking 10 o' to to
four yeah that sounds good that would just leave the I would dim it at 10 and just leave it that same lumens all the way until it shuts off I don't there no reason to make it brighter at six or seven but just till 10 and then I'll I'll set it on the the lowest setting just enough so people can s catches the
eye but not enough to to lose sight of the eye right okay very good question this is all controll on phone right uh it's my first sign ever put on I being everything else that got put in that shop I'm assuming yes it's pretty
incredible what they could do now with applications and all that any other members have a question comment anybody in the public wish to comment on this application seeing no one in the public uh I invite a resolution for this
not a resolution a a motion foot it's kind of unclear exactly what it is you want to give a little bit of freeway with 8.39 or 86 Maybe 90 square feet would be better just in
case something yeah that's fine but you have Dimensions you have a length and you have a height so I think that's more critical than the square feet okay thank you I think yeah 90 would be safe what time I all right I have a
motion I make a motion to approve this application based on the conditions that we discussed roll call vote please Mr Emma Mr Green yes Mr kazinski yes Mr espo yes Mr Emma
yes Mr Castle Mr Bella resolution has been approved we'll memorialize it at the next meeting and you can get your building permit thank you members of the board okay good luck thank you Mr chairman thank you members have a good evening good to see you all
thank you okay next uh item is uh resolutions I don't have the resolution since I wasn't here last month I believe there's two there's only two Joan yeah okay uh
so the first one we'll vote on is Insight development Partners LLC application 2202 and I have a motion on this resolution motion approve motion's been made and second it
roll call vote Please Mr ESO yes yes m g yes Mr Castle yes Mr Bella yes Mr yeah second resolution is Jack Novak 49 Hillside
Avenue case number 24- 09 can I have a motion on this resolution motion to approve second motion's been made in second R coote Please Mr okay thank you um can I have a motion to
approve the minutes of last meeting approve the minutes motion's been made and seconded all those in favor anybody opposed minutes are approved is there anything else that members want to
discuss yes there's one thing I want to bring up um the annual zoning board report from 20 23 by John Barry did we do a a resolution on this
report Joan asked about that we didn't in December right I forgot too I don't the report that I have here is dated uh 1277 2024 do was this was this
done in January we canel did he actually issue a report or just yes he did I have it here I you can put it on the next meeting or I guess this meeting you can approve it you members see this
report okay yeah you can just have a motion to with um if everyone's satisfied I second it yeah I'm pretty sure is there a second second to motion
second motion's been made and second it to approve the an annual report by John Barry and that will be sent to the mayor and counsel and also to the zoning board I believe roll call vote Please Mr cin yes
Mr GRE yes Mr ESO yes Mr Emma yes Mr Bella yes M Mr C yes yes okay if there's nothing else I have
a motion for to ajour I make the motion to ajour I make the motion to ajour all those in favor meeting is adjourned okay thank you everyone 26 our next meeting don't know I don't