A moment to connect. Oh, can you hear me now? Okay. Good. So just let us know when the live feed is ready. Okay. Go ahead. Good evening. This is chair Wilcoxon, and I'd like to formally call the meeting to order of the Scottsdale Transportation Commission. Welcome everybody. Welcome to city staff, commissioners and the public to the 02/19/2026 Transportation Commission meeting. Meetings are held in person, televised on Cox cable channel eleven, and streamed online on
the scottsdale.az.gov, for the public to listen and view the meeting in progress. I'd like to ask for a roll call to begin this evening's meeting. Chair Wilcoxon? Here. Thank you. Vice Chair Cardella? Here. Thank you. Commissioner Marmon? Here. Thank you. Is remote. Commissioner Pinkowitz? Here. Thank you. Commissioner Koftile? Here. Thank you. Commissioner Davis is absent. Commissioner Baker? Here. Thank you. We have a quorum. Thank you, Susan. Spoken comment is being accepted for agendized and non agendized items.
The request to speak forms must be submitted no later than ninety minutes before the start of the meeting. Written comment Susan, do we have any, request to speak? Chair Wilcoxon, we do have one, request to speak Great. Filled out. I have the comment card here. Thank you. Written comments are being accepted for agendized and non agendized items and should be submitted electronically at least ninety minutes, before the start of the meeting. These comments are also emailed to Transportation Commission and posted online. Susan, do we have any written comments?
Chair Chair Wilcoxon, we do not. Thank you. All right. With that, we go to spoken comments. So, Carl Whaley, I hope I pronounced your name right. If you wanna come up to the podium and or this is it. This one oh, sorry. The last time we tried, this one wasn't working, but Now it is. You can use this. And then if you need to put a document here, let me know. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Whaley. If you could state your name and your address for the record and the information
Yes, sir. My name is Carl Whaley. I live at 7879 East Coronado Road, Scottsdale, Arizona 85257. And I'd like to thank the Commission for this opportunity to speak this evening. Basically, I've been involved in the study, practice, and advocacy of transportation systems since studying transportation management at Iowa State University more than fifty years ago. I think Sue is an alma of that school also.
After graduating from Iowa State, I entered the Army's Transportation Officers Corps, primarily as a traffic management officer, officer, with a brief stint as head of the Army's truck driving school at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. During towards the end of my career, I had the opportunity to serve five years in Rotterdam and two years in Southampton, England. These two duty stations provided me with an understanding of the mobility provided by walking,
biking, and public transit. When I retired from the military, I moved first to Mesa and then to Scottsdale, Arizona, but I missed the freedom of mobility I enjoyed in Northern Europe. It seemed to me that the only safe way to cross the street was to get in a car and drive from one parking lot to the next. For a period, I worked for the RPTA and took the opportunity to return to school at ASU and earn my master's degree in environmental planning. My master's highway Transportation Advisory Committee, before I returned to live full time in Scottsdale.
What I've learned over the years is that transportation choices are continually changing. Uber, Lyft, Waymo, e bikes, and scooters have all served to shift mobility choices away from the traditional privately owned vehicle. Vehicle miles traveled per capita in The United States peaked in 2004 and vehicle ownership peaked in 2006. Both have been decreasing since that time and partially explains why several Scottsdale Arterials and collectors warranted downgrading and why there may be excess parking in some parts of our
community. What has not changed is that walking is the glue that holds our transportation system and economy together. Walking to or from parking spots or transit stops is an essential component of our access to work, goods, and services. The heart of Scottsdale has always been our Old Town area and is an area that requires a large number of pedestrians to be economically successful. Biking and walking through Old Town, I feel that there are numerous barriers facing pedestrians in that area.
And, subsequently, the number of pedestrians and the range they wander through are limited. For this reason, I would recommend that a walking audit be conducted in Old Town and that members of the Transportation Commission, with the interest of merchants, be invited to participate, and I'd like to lead that audit. Thank you for your time this evening. That's all. Thank you, Mr. Whalen. Staff, is that something that we have the ability to look into, walking audit? Chair Wilcoxon, we did several walking audits during the safety plan evaluation.
We can certainly look into more more walking audits. We'll take a look at it. Thank you. And thank you again, Mr. Whalen. All right. We will move on to the agenda. With the approval of the minutes. Did all the commissioners get a chance to read the minutes from our last meeting, January? Are there any comments or corrections to be made on the minutes? Hearing none, I'll take a motion to approve the minutes from the 01/15/2026 meeting. Motion to approve the minutes from the last meeting.
Thank you. Commissioner Kaffau, do I have a second? Second. Thank you, Commissioner Baker. Do we do a roll call vote then for this? Sorry? Chair Wilcoxon? Approved. Thank you. Vice Chair Cardella? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Marmon? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Pankiewicz? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Koftheil? Approved. Thank you. Commissioner Baker? Yes. Thank you. Minutes are approved. Thank you, Susan. Going to, item number two, appointment to new commissioner to the paths and trails subcommittee.
This is gonna require a vote, nomination and a vote. Do we have any commissioners who would be interested in serving on the paths and trails subcommittee? I believe the term is for one year and it would, it would, require, six meetings. The first Thursday of every month, Susan, is that correct? Chair Wilcoxon, the first Thursday evening every other month starting in February. Every other month. Yes. We since we moved to twelve months of the year, that would make sense. Six Thank you.
Six meetings. Okay. Do I have any commissioners who are eligible to serve and interested in serving? I would like to continue. Commissioner Cough or excuse me, Commissioner Marmon, was that you? Yes. Okay. Thank you. You're next Yes. So you're still on there. I'll double check the date that you started, but this would be for commission Commissioner Koffele's position. Thank you. Thank you. I know that commissioner Davis is not eligible, but we could vote him in in absentia. Wouldn't that be a surprise when he gets back from vacation?
That's what you get for going out of town or taking the night off. Alright. It looks like we have no, no one interested in serving. Not sure what that means going forward. I will check. I will check with the city clerk. I know that Commissioner Koftheil's term was supposed to be done in last November. And when I asked if he could still attend the February meeting, they said that would be okay until we've filled the role. But I don't know if that's something that can be done long term.
So I'll look into it and get back to everyone. Okay. Commissioner Koftow? Did I give the wrong day, the first Thursday evening every other month? No. We it used to be on Tuesday mornings, but we wanted it to coincide with the Transportation Commission schedule a little bit more. That's why it moved to Thursday evenings a while back. K. So you'll check to see if, Kyle can remain or commissioner Coughall can remain on the, not sure why I call him The PazenTrails Subcommittee.
PazenTrails Subcommittee. Lee, if that is, if you are allowed to stay until your replacement is found, would you be able to do that or willing to do that? I would be willing to stay on until that replacement is found for me. I guess, Chair Wilcoxon and members of Transportation Commission, this is, if Davis is not eligible and then everybody who's here has no interest in sitting on the, passenger or subcommittee, then I guess we're gonna have to I guess, is is there time that
the commissioners need to think about sitting on the committee? Or is this a firm no interest in sitting on the committee, and then we have to go and see if we get a at large resident approval through the council? I think, for example, for me, I would like more information regarding the time commitment. Okay. The specific date and maybe we can bring it back to the next, our next transportation commission. Commissioner Baker, I was just that sounds good. I was just making sure that there was some room here where somebody would be
interested or if it was a hard no for everybody, then we would probably have to look to see how we amend the rules of the transport the PAS and Trails Subcommittee. It's not a hard no for me. I'm I just need to know what that time commitment is. Sounds good. Thank you. Okay. And then just to clarify, generally, we the group has a similar number of agenda items as transportation commission. And the goal is, you know, to stick to the 05:15 as late as 07:30
on that evening and not go over that amount of time. And then it's a similar, packet ahead of the meeting to review the slides and the reports. So it's a more, at times, in-depth discussion on paths and trails for people walking, biking, and riding horses than what Transportation Commission sometimes looks at. And then, any action items and recommendations Trails Subcommittee a lot of times will come then to the Transportation Commission to to have the same presentation and requested action.
So the next meeting would be in April? The correct. The next Pazin Trail subcommittee meeting would be the first Thursday evening in April and then the next Transportation Commission meeting is also in April. So if we need to return with with this item, that would be the next time it it happens since the March meeting is canceled for this commission. Okay. Thank you. And, Susan, if you could, I've served on the committee. It's, a lot of fun. But if you could find out if we can serve again, that would also maybe open up some possibilities, for people wanting to re up.
Thank you. I will double check. Okay. Moving on to item number three, Scottsdale Americans with Disability Act ADA transition plan update. This is for information and it will be presented tonight by, Felicia Beltran, the ADA Title four compliance coordinator for the City of Scottsdale. Welcome. Thank you very much. Thank you to the commission for inviting me and having me speak today. My name is Felicia Beltran. I'm the city's ADA Task Force compliance coordinator.
And today, I'll be giving an update on ADOT or I'm sorry, on SCATSA's ADA transition plan. So the requirements of the ADA transition plan stem from requirements of federal financial recipients such as the City of Scottsdale. Since the authorization of Section five zero four, the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, and then again And access to the city's services, programs, and activities.
Tourism is a one second. Sorry. Tourism is a cornerstone of Scottsdale's economy, accessibility and prosperity go hand in hand. At the end of the day, anyone who is not currently a part of the disability community can very well age into this population, which is why this plan is
critical and vital for everyone. Just a background of the ADA transition plan. It was last updated in July 2022. Last year, 03/04/2025, city council approved funding for the current update. And we anticipate that the final update of the plan will be completed this spring in 2026. I'm going to review some of the transition plan elements that will be included. One, it'll be that we will identify the official responsible for implementation of the plan.
We'll also include our identified during the self evaluation that was conducted as part of this update. And we will discuss the robust public participation efforts that we launched as, in the process of updating this plan. And our plan will also discuss timelines associated with removing all the barriers identified in
the self evaluation process. And that will use a calculation that uses prioritization and funding to get to that timeline. And funding to get to that timeline. And lastly, the transition plan will discuss monitoring of the plan. So again, the official responsible for the implementation of Scottsdale's ADA transition plan is the ADA TASICS compliance coordinator, myself. Here we have Scottsdale's ADA notice to the public. Again, advising the public on their rights under the ADA. And also, it notifies them of grievance procedures should a complaint be filed.
So our standards for accessibility. Scottsdale ADA design standards always try to achieve proactive standards, which apply to the pedestrian environment. However, we also utilize twenty ten ADAC standards, which applies to newly constructed or altered facilities. And we also incorporate our own design standards and policies, from our manual in 2018. So the self evaluation that will be included as part of the transition plan update, conducted an ADA field assessments on all the city owned buildings and facilities.
It also reviewed public rights of way and our communications, such as our city websites for ADA compliance. And also it incorporates public input that we received as part of this update. And also incorporates public input that we receive as part of this update when we ask the community to tell us about any accessibility challenges within the city. As part of this update, we are developing a geographic information system, an interactive tracking system that is going to help the city monitor compliance of the self evaluation, and
transition plan. This GIS system will provide a unified framework to address the self evaluation findings, such as our ramps, our sidewalks, pedestrian signals, and facilities and park assets. But really importantly, it'll allow us to visually see where we have barriers and clusters of inaccessibility features in our city. And we'll also be able to layer it with layer it with populations to show us where those populations are most affected and show us how proposed improvements align with
our high priority areas for improvements. Essentially, we're going to add these GIS layers. We'll include our barriers. We'll add prioritization tiers and capital project locations and community requested improvements. And together, this system will allow us to have a data driven, assessment to determine where are going to be our annual improvements and where are they priorities. Here's a snapshot of the dashboard of what our system looks like now. We were utilizing it to track our progress in the staff evaluation process.
So here you could see we were tracking total facilities to assess, don't need to be recessed. And then our parks that we had assessed and what percentage we still needed to, go out there and do our self evaluation. So as a part I've discussed earlier, I mentioned that as part of this transition plan update, we conducted a robust public involvement plan. And that included three public meetings, social media campaigns, public and employee accessibility questionnaires, also updates to our Scottsdale eight webpage, and we launched a public QR code campaign at
high traffic city facilities to solicit feedback from the public on accessibility challenges within the city. And we also various Scottsdale public events, including an event at our various Scottsdale public events, including an event at our Westworld. So the big question is, how long is this gonna take to address all of the barriers, that we identified in the self evaluation process?
Well, again, timelines will be calculated based on a criteria that balances both priorities and available funding, those two things carefully. And I'm gonna review some of the priorities that will go into our prioritization considerations, which will be, one, public input will be a high priority item. What we heard from the public on where the biggest challenges are will be considered. Also, access to emergency services and access to our high use parks and accessibility features there.
Also, alignments around major transit systems. And we'll also consider major employment at retail sites, especially our downtown. And we'll consider some key pedestrian corridors to prioritize, where our efforts should start first. And this is just some of the items. There's a lot of other considerations that are going to go into this formula as well. So the other half of the equation is really we have to identify some funding sources. As you can imagine, we have a lot of inventory that does need eight improvements.
And we're going to consider these following sources, like our transportation sales tax, our HEERF funding potentially, funding from general fund, our transportation 2% sales tax, and other departmental budgets. And also, we're always continuing to look for state regional funding sources or federal grants. So to go back to that question on how long is this gonna take to remove all of the barriers, well, again, balancing both those priorities and available funding, we
know that the transition plan could occur over an extended period. However, once we do establish that timeline, we are going to commit to annual projects that we will identify in the transition plan. So as part of the transition plan, there will be a monitoring mechanism that will be conducted annually by the ADA Title six compliance coordinator. And any significant updates to the plan will include a public comment period as well just to maintain transparency and keep us accountable for movement on that transition plan.
So, some of the next steps is we anticipate releasing the draft plan for public comments in the next month or so. And we will be presenting it to city council for approval and again finalization later this spring. But really, we see the Commission's the Transportation Commission's key role is your input. When that plan is released for public comments, we want your input. We want your perspectives. We wanna have a great plan. And also, we want you to help us with the distribution efforts to get the word out that this plan is available and we're looking for public comments.
I am open for questions. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Beltran. Commissioners, any questions? Commissioner Koftile. Hi. I had a thank you for the presentation. I had a just a couple of questions for you. I was just curious, do you have any idea of what percentage of the public has ADA requirements, specifically Scottsdale citizens, but since we're such a destination city, maybe just more generally what the population of, of our general visitors and and and the citizens
have that, like, need ADA requirements? Well, as far as what I've seen, really the census doesn't detail break it down to that level. However, I have seen other scholarly articles that report about 20%. So that's a figure that I've read before. But, again, it's all an estimate depending on the time frames, the year, etcetera. There's a lot of factors into that, but that's the information that I have. Okay. Then I had a question just basically, as information, how how often do you get,
how often do you get feedback from the public about needing ADA requirements and things like I I live in South Scottsdale, and a lot of my neighbors don't even know how to contact the city for for when they need something. And so I'm just curious, where where where your reports are coming from because a lot of this, it seems like, is self evaluation rather than like, you you have in there public input, but there's not a lot of it it seems like the people I run into don't know how to provide the feedback for what they need. Sure. Sure. And, thank you for the question.
And just with regards to the universe of the needs that we that are reported to us, they come in a variety of ways. I mean, sometimes the residents or people, visitors, tourists, they call. When they see they look up the city's email or the web address and they see ADA, they call. So I'm getting a lot I feel a lot of calls just in general from just general ADA questions. However, we also I mentioned the Scottsdale notes to the public. That's a method where we post those at our public facilities.
That's a method to notify the public. If there's any issues, challenges, grievances, this is who you contact and this is how we can address those. So that's really one of the ways that is effective in getting that word out. And also we have established an ADA Title Six liaison program in each department. Training's been conducted there as well as so when they're engaging, like our parks, our human services, our library services, when they're engaging with the public, they're also aware of notifying the public of their rights, and they have that notice to the public as
well. But really, they're interacting with their customers and they're proactively offering, do you need any assistance? And just offering those services. So those are some of the ways that we kind of engage with the public or that they are aware that we do exist. But again, there's always opportunity to really have that direct engagement. And the Scottsdale ADA web page right now, it has an open comment field where people can, at any point, report any issues that they have.
And we also have a Scottsdale EZ system as well where the folks, the public can also report any other city issues, but also EDA related issues as well. Okay. Alright. Thank you very much. Commissioner Panguitz. I have a couple of questions for you. Along with the GIS layers that you mentioned, does the city have a sidewalk GIS layer? Or maybe it's easier to have a no sidewalk GIS layer? From my knowledge, I'm pretty sure we do because when we were incorporating data into
this GIS system, Transportation Commission. We do have a sidewalk layer. In the way it was inputted, it was a polygon layer rather than a line layer. And I've seen that become outdated pretty quickly as we make updates. So we do have that layer, but it fall behind quickly. And updating a polygon layer is quite a higher task or more endeavor to take
than just a line layer. Greg, if you have zero drug? No? Okay. Yes. That was my next question in terms of updating and maybe working with development services. We know that for certain kinds of development, developers are required to put sidewalk and that's a great way to set up a system granted it's not just your department's responsibility. We've come across a lot of departments, to keep that updated. Joe Cox from the University of Michigan. We're working on a layer for our stipulations from developments to try and highlight where
we're getting those kind of improvements and so we can document those on the layer. I can say from our department, we're excited for this layer. We have not had an there was once an attempt to make an ADA, or at least a curb ramp layer to show which ones were there and which ones were in compliance. That only encompassed a very small area, so us having this resource to show all of the ramps throughout the entire city and what level of compliance they are in is gonna be very helpful for us.
And that's a great question, commissioner, especially because keeping that inventory updated. We just we're completing the exercise of the self evaluation the end of this month. Keeping and maintaining that data is a big challenge. However, in the transition plan, we have listed out requirements for all the departments who conduct any type of ADA improvements in our public rights way or our facilities and buildings have to interact with the system when they go and make updates.
So that's a way to maintain that it that the data is updated. Because, again, if we don't utilize this new GIS system after we just conducted did this big exercise with the self evaluation, all the data is is not even fresh and it's not relevant anymore, which is why that's a big part of the component of the plan that I'm really excited about is that the requirement to interface with this when you are updating any type of our assets in the city.
That way, again, our inventory will always be updated. And should if we get a complaint from the member of the public, we can actually see if there's a planned improvement there utilizing that system and give instantly that information to the public. So, again, I'm so excited about this GIS system and it's really going to move our program slight speeds. And so I'm excited for y'all to see that. Thank you. Well, I'm excited too. And I I think, you make a good point that we can have all the
great plans, but if we don't institutionalize the methods behind the plan, sometimes things fall to the wayside. My next question is this, and this is a little bit harder because there are ways to know which parts of the city flood in terms of like ramps that accumulate water or like, sidewalks, and things like that. I know, like, you can use lidar to kind of estimate how much something could flood. But is that and and I know that's expensive, but is is there any data
that exists or we can hear from residents but certainly not for the whole city unless it's like a lidar thing where you know, where things are gonna flood. But that that causes barriers for people or just discomfort great question. Nathan, do we have data like that? I don't believe we have incorporated that into this evaluation. If we hear that a ramp is accumulating water, we can maybe try to adjust it. A large portion of how we bring ADA ramps into compliance is through the pavement
program and they will try to even out that pavement and make sure that there's not any, parts that are, pulling in those areas. So I do know that that's a part of that. So we're pretty systematically going through the city as we do the pavement preservation. And hopefully, they can catch spots like that. But no, we don't do an evaluation of any pulling there. It'll be resident complaints or if they see maybe a low flow area when they're doing the repaving part. And that's a good point as well too.
Through this GIS system, we are going to be working to implement a system where the public, if they see any type of issues with regards to potentially flooding and therefore it's inaccessible, that they can interact with this GIS system, make that comment, and it instantly goes to us so we can begin addressing it too. So that's another feature that we want to add to that GIS system just to make it more interactive and up to put it into our our project cycle as
well. So that's something that we want to add to that as well. That would be wonderful. I have a couple more questions. So along with ramps, I have a couple more questions. So along with ramps, a lot of cities just do the one ramp at the corner with the tactile domes leading to the middle of the intersection. And I know sometimes that's a space constraint, but it it and ramps are expensive. At least 10 like $10,000 a piece, I think. But, still, human life is more expensive when we account for it.
Does the plant account for how to do both directions at an intersection? So I mentioned the standards, the standards we utilize in ADA design. And those proactive standards especially, they identify that if there is space constraints, they identify how to ensure you still get those accessible ramps at the intersections. So there's different ways to overcome those challenges and yet still meet your standards, your ADA standards. So and, again, that's our standard is to achieve PROWAG standards.
However, we have other standards that we could similarly achieve that type of a compliance. So, yeah, we're gonna identify the standards we will utilize, like I mentioned, PROWAG. And those are very extensive specifically for the public rights of way, which would include your intersections. And my last question is regarding construction and the right of way. And every city and sometimes every project does it differently. And when it comes to, bike lanes being closed or sidewalks being closed, sometimes a
pedestrian or even a person with a mobility challenge gets to an intersection and then then they're told to cross. And there is also the the issue of the kind of, barrier between traffic and the person. Is that I I know some cities have manuals on how to do it, but is that something that is already standardized for the city, or will this plan look into it? So we will have standards as far as ADA standards when there is any type
of closures that we will utilize an alternate safe temporary ADA accessible route. That's a requirement to do that. So that's definitely addressed in the proactive standards. And We are certainly doing our best to accommodate that. Every time there's a closure for construction, we're trying to make sure there's a detour, an effective detour for pedestrian and bike access. We're trying to follow the regulations. We're trying to do the best we can. There's some times that I think we could have probably done better in previous times,
but we monitor that and make sure that we have that available construction site. Yeah. And sometimes it's not even the city but, like, just people in construction are the ones that I think, you know, get the permit to close the right of way. And I'm wondering if there is, document or guidance that they can follow. And I don't mean the alternate path because anyone can figure out what that is. And if you've never had a mobility disability or you've never been blind, I guess,
it doesn't matter to you. You're just thinking you're providing a path. But for a person that has to navigate that path with a disability, it's very different. So, like, I'm talking about more about the signing and guiding people to a safe path and a standardization of the barrier between traffic and people. And I'm I'm referring more and I don't know if this plan can address this or if it's just better way to do business with, developers and people doing construction
of providing, one pager on all of the things that are wanted, when it comes to closing sidewalks. Chair Wilkerson, commissioner Pankowetz, we do have a document that we reference. That's the Phoenix the city of Phoenix, traffic barricade manual. To your questions about if we're gonna close something, we're gonna close it and not
lead a pedestrian to the closure. We actually close it way ahead in advance and detour them. If we happen to take them into the streets, there's a barrier that they are required to provide for pedestrians. Thank you. Thank you. That was all my questions. Thank you so much and thanks for the presentation. Absolutely. Thank you. Commissioner Baker? Any questions? And on the line, Bob, Commissioner Marmon, any questions? No, I don't have any questions. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you, Felicity. I did have a couple of questions.
I appreciate the comments about the GIS sidewalk layer. I would also argue that throughout the city there are plenty of abandoned driveway cuts that are no longer being used as such and represent a barrier that needs to be corrected. And for the updated easement or development layer that would be something to consider as
well, not just new facilities but returning unused features back to normal. For the question that, Commissioner Koftile asked about, registered or, a number of disabled community in the city, I'm wondering if ADOT would be able to provide some kind of information as far as disabled parking licenses that are registered or that are owned by
people who live in in Scottsdale. And then, for John, I had a question about ADA compliance on traffic signals, specifically the rectangular rapid flashing beacons. I know that when I was with Phoenix, we didn't really have a good way of warning people who were visually impaired that the light is working, and it was a difficult thing because it's flashing and traffic may not stop.
Has that changed at all? Or flashing and traffic may not stop. Has that changed at all? Or do we still not provide audible warning for rectangular rapid flashing beacons? Chair Wilcoxson, commissioners, that's a very good question. We actually exploring that with the audible technology and also the, passive detection, which is also audible to the impair. But that's still in a very early pilot project.
Thank you. And then, Felicia, one last question for you. Do we have any information on people with disabilities, whatever that may be, being injured anywhere on c streets or sidewalks? From my time here, chair Wilcoxon, from my time here, I haven't received any notifications of injuries, just more accessible complaints. Perhaps maybe or I haven't gotten any complaints of injuries happening related to, accessibility, more
accessibility complaints as well. Sure. Thank you. Thank you both. It's very difficult to get that information. But go. I'm sorry. Well, I will add, to your question, Chair Wilcoxon, on the APS. That was part of the self evaluation for this evaluation. They went out to different signals and APS and Audible was a measurement that they are going to identify. So we will know what that inventory looks like for as part of the self evaluation and we could start preparing for, updates in a synchronized manner. That's great. Thank you. Commissioner Pankowis, I know.
One more question. I'm sorry. When I worked at City of Phoenix, one of the complaints that we had from, people with mobility issues was, when sidewalks buckled. And, this was an internal issue for us because I guess other cities had the machinery to grind down the sidewalk and bring it back to the level. And at the city at the time, they were just adding asphalt to the crack. And that's equipment, does the city have the equipment to address it in the way
that a person with a mobility disability would appreciate it? So I will say, with regards to standards for sidewalks, our manual our 2018 manual, but also our proactive standards as well, address what the sidewalk grade needs to be. And I think with regards to ensuring that everybody is trained to know that when you do go out for maintenance, you need to apply those pro ag standards or our own standards as well, which are in compliance with the ADA.
So, I think that's part of the issue. But, Nathan, if you want to add to that. We do have the capabilities of repairing buckling of sidewalks in many different ways, whether we're replacing the panels or whether we're pulling them down to ease that. So when we get those complaints, we do repair those. Whenever there's a monsoon season, we'll see those pop up. Any other questions? Thank you very much. Absolutely. Thank you very much commission. All right. Moving on to item number four, 78th Street and Gold Dust traffic calming update.
And this is a carryover from an item we discussed a few months meetings back, regarding a request to traffic comb 78th Street. Presenting will be Elaine Dominguez. Go ahead. Welcome. Thank you. Chair Wilcox and members of the Transportation Commission, my name is Helene Dominguez. My title is senior traffic engineer. And today, I'll be discussing the 78th Street and Goldust Avenue pedestrian crossing evaluation. So just going over a little bit of the background, this request stems from citizen
concerns from the La Cuesta community who submitted a petition to city council back in January 2025 regarding speeding along the segment of 78th Street from Mountain View Road to Shea Boulevard. So the original petition had three requests, which was an always stop at the intersection of 78th Street and Goldust, lowering the speed limit from 30 miles per hour to 25 miles per hour on 78th Street and reclassifying 78th Street from a minor collector
to a local collector. After several iterations of evaluation from our department as well as the fire department, we identified a new approach, which consisted of, the installation of two sets of speed cushions, north and south of Goldust Avenue, complying with the request for the speed limit reduction and reclassification of 78th Street, and lastly, the installation of a high visibility crosswalk on the North Lake. So city staff presented, at the Transportation Commission meeting on September.
The purpose of the presentation was to request an exemption to the neighborhood traffic management policy, in regards to the recommendation to install speed cushions on 78th Street. In that presentation, vice chair, at the time, vice chair Wilcoxon, asked if the crosswalk on the north leg had met, our pedestrian crossing warrant guidelines or if the purpose of the crosswalk was as a traffic calming measure. So at the time, no crossing evaluation had been conducted at that location.
As part of the meeting The commission moved to approve the speed cushion and the street reclassification and the speed limit reduction. But as part of the motion requested that a pedestrian crossing evaluation be conducted to determine both the need of a crosswalk and the location of the crosswalk. So just giving a high level overview, this is, same figure as the last presentation. The intersection is located between Mountain View and Cheyenne between Scottsdale and Hayden. And I want to point out that here, 78th Street, was shown as a minor
collector but will be reclassified to, the local collector designation. And here again is an overview of the intersection. So, the intersection is minor road stop control with Gold Dust being the minor road, and highlighting that the speed on 78th Street is currently posted at 30 but will be changed to 25 miles per hour, which would be then the same for all approaches. So the governing document that we use to evaluate pedestrian crossings is the City of
Scottsdale guidelines to identify pedestrian crossing treatments, which I'm sure you guys are aware of. So I won't go into the details, but it's just the document that we use to identify and prioritize enhanced pedestrian crossing treatments. And I've listed the, evaluation criteria, the different considerations that the guidelines provide, when determining if a treatment is warranted and the type. So the first step was to collect data as part of the evaluation.
So starting with the volume data, the average daily traffic came out to eighteen sixty vehicles per day. And this came from data that was collected in March 2020 and we counted the pedestrians in fifteen minute intervals. So the peak hour was found to be from seven to 8AM with 14 pedestrians.
Six pedestrians were crossing the north leg and eight pedestrians were crossing the south leg. And so the total number included both legs of the intersection. Lastly, the collision data. So the most recent five years of data was reviewed. There was a total of which occurred at this intersection, with only one that was involving a bicycle or a pedestrian. It actually was involving a bicycle. Sorry. A bicyclist that was going westbound that failed to stop and collided with a southbound vehicle. So that is a collision that is perhaps susceptible to correction, with the pedestrian crossing
treatment. So here's a summary of the evaluation and the associated score for each of the considerations. I'll just go through these quickly. So the origin and destination is based off the mag gravity demand model. The score came out to between a hundred and eight and one thirty three. I discussed the pedestrian and vehicle volumes. The distance to the nearest crossing is a quarter mile, approximately a quarter mile, down to Mountain View up to Shea. The posted speed limit was evaluated as the proposed speed limit, rather than what's existing,
so at 25 miles per hour. Crossing distance 55 feet, and there's no median. There's a street light directly above the intersection on, North of Goldust. As I mentioned, one one collision relating to bicycle and pedestrians. And then lastly, the sight distance, there's not a score associated with that, but the intersection does meet the minimum sight distance here. So the total score that the location received was 28. So per the guidelines, a minimum score of 30 points must be achieved, for the
location to be considered for an RRFB, PHB signal, or separated grade crossing. So it doesn't specifically identify less robust treatments. But ultimately, the recommendation is that, no enhanced pedestrian crossing treatment be applied at this intersection with the caveat that the intersection may be reevaluated at a later date if there is a change in conditions, at the intersection or within the surrounding area.
So the justification for this determination, the mag gravity demand model did not show a high amount of pedestrian and bicycle activity in the area. The pedestrian volume data that we collected also showed that the crossings were sporadic throughout the day. Vehicle volumes are relatively low on 78th Street. And lastly, related to the changes we're making, the posted speed is changing to 25 miles per hour, and 78th 8th Street is being reclassified to a local collector, meaning
that this intersection is more of a, local intersection, not warrantying a high visibility crosswalk. So this item is on the agenda for possible action. So the commission may choose to vote to approve or reject the recommendation of no enhanced pedestrian crossing treatment at the intersection of Sunny Street in Goldest. If you choose to take no action, then staff is going to move forward with the recommendation as it stands. Thank you.
Any questions? Thank you. Questions? Commissioner Blake. I have one quick question. Can you go back to your warranting criteria? Oh. Oh, the table? Yes. The table. Uh-huh. Sorry. So you measure pedestrian volume, but I'm assuming that you're also counting bicycles and people and other mobility devices? Yes. So it was, number of people who were crossing, or so crossing from either side of 78th Street regardless of if they're walking or, riding their bike or scooters.
They were all counted individually. Okay. And then this is your awarding criteria. You don't measure total pedestrians in a day. You just do, like, peak hour? Commissioner Pinkowitz, yes. That is how the evaluation guidelines are written. It's, pedestrians per hour to considering the the peak hour, whatever whatever time or day that might be. Okay. That was all my questions. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner Baker. Just, maybe it's just me. I've seen more definitions of speed bumps, speed tables, speed cushions.
When you when you identify a speed cushion, how is that different than a speed bump, or how do you define a speed cushion? Commissioner Baker, members of the Transportation Commission. Yes. I'll explain the difference. So, a speed hump is maybe what you're most familiar with. It goes across the entire street. It's usually about 10 feet long, along the length of the street. A speed cushion is similar to a speed hump except for that it has what we call cutouts, approximately, I believe, six and a half feet spaced at six and
a half feet, which allow for the tire tracks of emergency vehicles to traverse the device without having to slow down. But, the cutouts are still wide enough so that a traditional normal vehicle would still have to go over the device and lower their speed. I believe you said a speed table. So a speed table is similar to a speed hump. They're just elongated. They usually are traversed at higher speeds, so, typically are used on streets with, a
higher posted speed than maybe where a speed cushion would be considered. Hopefully, that explains the difference. Commissioner Koftil? Okay. Any questions? I guess just motion. I was just gonna wait till we get there, for the motion. No. Yeah. Can you remind me what the residents had requested? Did they request anything in the crossing or just a better crossing a better crosswalk? Vice Chair Cardella, members of the Transportation Commission, the original request did not have any
mention of a crosswalk. I'll go I'll go back to it. But their original intent was to have always stop control at 78th Street in Gold Dust. And through a public outreach process, through our own internal evaluation, that morphed from a raised crosswalk to speed cushions with an with a at grade crosswalk. So the crosswalk was not actually, part of the original request from the community. Okay.
Thank you. And on the phone, commissioner Marmon. Thank you. I don't have any questions. Thank you. Commissioner Penkowitz, you had an additional question. One more question. Can you go back to the page where you mentioned when you took the counts? So you collected data on a Wednesday? For the pedestrians? Yeah. I believe it was a we deployed the camera from Tuesday to Thursday with Wednesday being the the full day. But it that allowed us to take, two morning peak time evaluations and two afternoon ones Mhmm.
Total. This specific peak hour occurred on October 15. Okay. I I guess I would be curious since when the residents were here, they seemed to walk more recreationally if the council would be higher on a Saturday or Sunday when the weather is cooler. Not I don't remember what the weather was like in October. But, something that, sometimes happens is, you know, if you have a school nearby, then maybe the weekdays are easy and a good measure, to to look at the cameras
and check for pedestrians. But in this location where people seem to walk more recreationally, I'm wondering if the counts would be higher on a weekend. Commissioner Pankiewicz, members of the Transportation Commission, I definitely see your point. However, I do believe, that this neighborhood would have, a high morning peak hour volume especially for the time of year. But that's something that if the commission would like, we could further evaluate.
Yeah. I I've I've I've seen it at least, when I used to work in Phoenix that there are certain areas where the residents will tell you, we believe the first the best day for you to come would be a weekday or a weekend. They would make that differentiation. We would never tell them exactly they would counting because some people would just do that. But, I'm wondering if perhaps counting while the weather is still cool within these days, just leaving it up for the weekend and seeing what the peak hour is on
a weekend, if it's any different. Okay. Commissioner Pankiewicz, that is something we could consider. I believe that the maximum amount of, points for the pedestrian volume was not achieved. And so, it is possible that that might change the outcome. But like I said, if that's something the commission would like us to explore, we could do that. I think that would be a good idea. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I had just, one other question or really more of a comment. And I I just wanna go back to the original reason why we were here
or at least why we were talking about this item and that was we were changing a Collector Street that was being used as a cut through, or a I'm sorry. It was a it is a it it is classified as a Collector Street, but in reality it is being used as a cut through or at least that's the belief Mhmm. That the residents came to us. They didn't ask for the the crosswalk. So the original intent was to reclassify and try and do things to slow things down. And I still believe that the crosswalk is not a good way to do that,
and it doesn't appear like there is a need for that. But I would recommend and and we'll we'll take a motion on the on what you're asking about. But regardless of the outcome of that that motion, I I would just encourage the city to once the speed limit has been lowered and the speed cushions have been installed, to reevaluate the traffic counts and the speeds to see if the original problem of cut through traffic has been, addressed.
And then when and if it's appropriate to do another pedestrian count, whether it's weekday or weekend, that's always an option as well. But I just again, I wanna make sure that we're keeping in mind the fact that the original request was more of a traffic calming, thing. So that's just my my ask. Measure the traffic after you've done the things that have been approved. So with that, unless there's any other questions, I'd be happy to take a motion.
Would this be a good time for me to ask for some clarifications on on the motion then? Yes. Commission Kaftel. Okay. So I'm looking at the possible actions. It's a prove recommendation of no enhancements or no action staff recommendation. So the the recommendation so our those are our two possible actions is no action or approve the recommendation. But so is it staff recommendation versus the MAG recommendation? Is that is that what we're voting on? Commissioner Koftil, members of Transportation Commission, perhaps I did not word this correctly, but, the
motion would be to approve or reject the recommendation. And, if you choose not to have a motion, that's, when we would just move forward with what the recommendation is. But, it's it was to provide the commission the opportunity to, ultimate decision to not install any enhanced pestering and crossing treatment here. Okay. And, the staff recommendation would also so the the community came came and asked for
a four way controlled stop, but the staff recommendation would not include that that four way controlled stop? That's correct. Yes. The always stop at 78th in Goldust, is a separate item. This is solely regarding regarding the, high visibility striped crosswalk, which was previously proposed here. And so it's so is it a it's a high visibility stripe, but it's also at grade? So, like, that's when you say it's at grade, it's one of the you drop
down, cross, and then go back up. Right? Is what you're saying? It means same level as the street. Okay. So they would have to enter the street and cross that street level. So the sidewalk's up higher and then they and so the people crossing would need to go down and then back up. Oh, yes. Okay. Alright. That's Okay. For for me, I mean, I, with all deference to, Cherryville Coxon, I mean, I I'm I'm always for Mark's, high high visibility cross box myself.
But, especially because this one's so it's recommendation is for 30 points and this got 28. So it seems like it's really close and it's and they and they are asking well, they weren't asking for that. So okay. Yeah. Chair Wilcoxon, if I may make another comment regarding your comment, also regarding commissioner Pankowicz's comment, we could do a reevaluation after the posted speed and the reclassification has been put in place. And as I mentioned, the recommendation did include the caveat is of if conditions change,
it could be re reevaluated. So once, those changes have been made, we would certainly be open to reevaluating this crossing location with with the weekend pedestrian volumes as well. Thank you. Thank you. Chair chair commission chair Wilcoxon, commissioners, if I may add to what Helene is saying. So the design is actually at a 100%. We're about to finalize the design of the speed cushions, and we intend to do
the after study. So if we're able to just kinda push the Saturday collect data collection to the after study. And if, it meets, we can actually implement the high vis crossing at that time. Thank you. Thank you, John. I I like the idea of making the changes and then reevaluating to see if we need to do anything else. Thank you, Commissioner Baker. Do we have a motion? So I I I would motion that we would follow the the approve the recommendations
with the caveat that after the changes are done, there is a reassessment to see if the enhanced crossing is needed at that point. I second the motion. Great. We have a, motion and a second. Getting excited about this. Susan, do you want to call over roll call? Any first of all, any other questions or comments before we move to a vote? Just my only comment would be anytime I see that a peak hour is high
but not meeting that, It's usually because people are walking. And when they have the most time to walk, it is the weekend. So if staff wanted to set that camera on a Thursday and take it down that Monday, I we would see it probably a big difference between the weekday and the weekend. So, I think it's important when we do counts to ask the community in which days they see the most people walking and then just the kind of walking that they do. Thank you, commissioner Pinkowitz.
And we'll take your suggestions, back. Thank you, Elaine. So we've got a motion in a second. And just to be clear, what we're what we're, voting on is approval of the staff recommendation with the caveat that once the changes are put in place, staff would go back and measure remeasure the speed, the volume, and pedestrian volumes on a weekend. Mhmm. Is that When the weather's cool. When the weather's cool. Okay. So with that, Susan, are we ready for a roll call?
Yes. Chair Wilcoxon? Approved. Thank you. Vice Chair Cardella? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Marmon? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Pankiewicz? Yes. Thank you. Commissioner Koftau? Approved. Thank you. Commissioner Baker? Yes. Thank you. Motion is approved. Great. And thank you, Helene for your presentation and your patience with our questions. And, thank you commissioners for your, thoughtful questions and comments on this, this dicey issue. So thank you. Thank you. So the next item is projects and programs update.
Nathan is not here. So say again, relief for Nathan. Yes, good evening. Chair Wilcoxson and members of the Transportation Commission. I'm Greg Davies. I'm a senior transportation planner. Nathan had to step away, but, I'm filling in as a backup quarterback here. So this is just an informational iron and it will give you some insights on our projects and our programs. The first one is the 2nd Street roadway improvements. And this is actually a bond project that, is in the capital division.
In regards to what we plan on doing, we we really wanna do some it's titled Roadway Improvements in the Capital Program, but it really involves, looking at the the corridor, of 2nd Street from Goldwater to Drinkwater and looking at pedestrian and bicycle enhancements, accommodations for cars too if if we need to do specific, you know, lead turn lanes in, whatever we need to do, sidewalk repairs, wide sidewalks, lading analysis.
And the goal right there is to create a better pedestrian and bicycle experience. But it's really an experience for any type of user. It's multimodal like most of our corridors. So, that graphic shows kind of very, very preliminary alternative. In this graphic, right now there is a center continuous left turn, lane. In this graphic, we don't show that. We have some bike lane put in there. And if we keep the parking, you can see at the intersection there, there there's
some bulb outs for the the, pedestrians for crossings. And so we we have already done that on Marshall Way and 2nd Street. So very similar treatments. It's not a real expensive project. We don't have a lot of funds in the in the capital program, but that's our goal. And it's it's right around 15% right now. And we're looking at also as it continues past drink water, as it goes to the library connecting to the 2nd Street, shared use path that leads to the Indian Bend Wash path system.
Cactus Trail Enhancement project, this was a is a project that is underway. This was a petition from two residents in in the Cactus Acres area. Our plan is to really, refresh the trail. And when I say refresh, it's additional DG. We're gonna stabilize the trail. That was this trail was built back in, I'd say, it was around 2007. And, we implemented some speeding, mitigation on on this corridor.
We're gonna phase it, phase one and phase two. Phase one is 96th Street to 102nd Street, and phase two is a hundred and second to Frank Lloyd Wright. So it it is a it's a good project. It it will definitely enhance the trail. It'll provide also a steel fence that, will be aesthetic. It'll be an an a naked steel fence. We're kinda modeling after the Scottsdale Ranch fence.
That fence you see in that picture is from Scottsdale Ranch. And so that will help mitigate parking on the trail. We have issues with parking on the trail. So, that was the goal behind that. And that was the petition that was the the sole basis of the petition. So that project's underway. We're we're, getting the contracts underway and, again, it's phased out. 68 Street sidewalk. This was, also a resident request to to put sidewalks along 68 Street from Indian School to to Camelback.
All there is right now is bike lanes, so pedestrians utilize the bike lane as a pedestrian access route. As it states there, design is nearing completion. We're, establishing this connection because there's sidewalks on both ends of this segment of 68th Street, and the construction will start in December 2026. This is, also related to a stormwater project that is occurring, but these sidewalks are needed. It provides a much renovations, this is, a project that's been in the queue for
a while. As you are aware, Indian Benoit path is, really a signature piece of the city in its green belt and its and its aging. It's we've put in in probably late seventies. So we have done a lot of renovations, in the past and will continue to do renovations. And, these these are important renovations that, are underway right now. And we just recently completed the path north and south of Osborne. That picture there is, right there at, that's Earl.
And that is looking north. That's a pretty new path. Continental Golf Course is on the right. The next segments are in McCormick Ranch, which is, very necessary because of just grade and and width is is limited there. So, our plan to do that those segments is, this summer. Dirt road paving. This, project is in the Pinnacle Peak Ranchos area. It's up north as you can see on that graphic up at the Lone Mountain and Pima, vicinity. These roads, were just palliative roads.
They look really nice now. It's just all done. The roads obviously included Via Donna, Black Cross, Granite Reef, Peakview, and Smokehouse. We worked with the residents on this, and completed this project just recently. It's, you know, asphalt paving and it looks really good. And it is related to a particulate matter 10 project, that, due to dust control. Pima Road, Via Linda McDowell. This is a project underway. You've probably seen that and been out there. This is on the eastern boundary of the city of Scottsdale in partnership with the
Salt River Pima Maricopa Indian Community, who's a lead agency, for this project. I'm involved in it from a perspective of of programming and funding. It's widening Pima Road to four lanes, and it'll be a complete corridor with bike lanes, sidewalk, new sidewalks, new ramps, new signal improvements, again, bike lanes along the corridor, additional landscaping as you they just actually installed landscaping and installing it right now from
via David Churrin north towards the Lupo 101 that, is part of the project. So, a very important project. Again, partnering with, Salt River Pima, Merkoping Community, which secured a lot of funding for this project. This will be completed in Brown. I I put that in about fall twenty twenty six, so that's the plan. And then, on to Susan's, love of biking. Oh, my love too. April is bike month. As you know, right now, at the city of Scottsdale, this season is high season.
This is rolling in right into, spring training, which is first game Sunday. A lot of if you've been down to Old Town, you've seen a bunch of people down there. It's it's time to to walk. It's time to ride. So, you know, we did the the Tour de Escasta. That was Saturday, March 28. And then Cycle the Arts is a really, really fun, event that, we put on. This is our twenty year anniversary. That'll happen in April 19. We, work with Skausta Arts, Victoria Sahade, and she's the the, the the manager for
public cycle. It's a pretty cool logo. But you have to come to see it. You have to come and and get on the bike to to see the logo and get the t shirt. But now you'll see eventually. But it's a pretty cool logo. We'll have t shirts. We'll have, knapsack bags that has a logo on it, stickers. We get about over a 100 people that show up, so it's pretty fun. Bike to Work Day, April 22.
And, the Active Transportation Summit, which occurs, usually occurs at the Mesa Convention Center. That's prior to April 17. That is a a great conference for, people involved in active transportation. It's very, very good conference for just brainstorming. So those are our events that are happening in April. And here's Bike to Work Day. Or as Susan says, wherever day. And it it doesn't matter where you're going. If you ride your bike by, you're gonna get some free swag.
So, that's again, twenty second. We'll have specific stops. In the Benoit Path is a a very popular one. Obviously, that's used as I mentioned, it's a green belt, a huge jewel of the city. A ASU Sky Song and Civic Center here right here. And, Crosscut Canals are a very popular one. We have it at Oak and then Mountain View Park. Again, hey. See? You see got to see the logo. You got to see it without riding your bike today. I was just hoping I was I was, I was ramping you up for it. So here's the low it's pretty cool logo, that, Ariana designed.
And this Cycle of the Arts is gonna be unique because it's starting at Arabian Library. It's gonna be on the North Side in northern area of Scottsdale. So everybody's welcome. It it'll be a good time. And again, I see it's a twenty year anniversary. That logo is is pretty neat looking. It's, gives obviously the twenty year anniversary anniversary that shows that, you know, that's actually a gravel bike rider which is pretty cool. I like that. A gravel bike rider which is pretty cool. I like that. And that's it. So if you have any questions or, any insights or anything or you a project
that's there's other projects that are going but those are our highlights and programs. Thank you, Greg. Commissioners, any questions? Commissioner Koftaheil. Hi, Greg. Thank you for the updates. I'm sure Nathan couldn't could not have done a better job. So, just, because I I I any chance I can, I I'd bring this up? You you talked about parking on the second street and how we're preserving that parking. I know I brought it up a bunch where, because I know other cities have done that And I'm just wondering or done this where they use the parking as
the protection for the bike lanes. So instead of being bike lane, parking, sidewalk, it's parking, bike lane, sidewalk. And is there any chance with this project or any upcoming projects where Scottsdale could try something like that, instead of putting in bollards or, concrete barriers or something like that? Is that something that would be possible to try? Chair Wilcoxon and commissioner Koftau, great question. You know, 2nd Street right there is really constrained. We're looking at different alternatives.
We're we've looked at really three. Is that a possibility? In the based on the constraints, probably not. But another possibility is actually removing the parking and putting in a buffer bike lane. That is an alternative. As you're aware, parking is, free in Old Town. It at that location, possibility that some of that parking can go away. One good thing about this is if it moves forward is is the garage at
Brown And 2nd Street, the plan to put a garage there, which will help in regards to if we do take parking. That that can be mitigated by that garage. Olivo's right there behind the Mexican restaurant. So that that's it's always gonna be there. So in your configuration, probably not. A buffer bike lane, pass yeah. As an alternative, yes. So, you know, I know I know I know that configuration, but I think it's too constrained for that.
Alright. I'm just always gonna push it when Sure. I see a chance to. So, for the, in Indian, the Indian watch updates, can you go back to that to that image right there? Let's see. There. Okay. So I just want to say thank you to the staff because, that's right near my house. And I remember talking to you guys and saying, like, you know, for that runoff there, the when it would rain, dirt would pile there and there just just off
is a cutout. So for, for you to go to your house or whatever. So those those berms are, you know, those little bat those bags right there, that's I'm very grateful for that. So thank you and, for projects when it's right next to, earth that washes out that if the city could continue to do that, it's it's great. It makes it so much more usable throughout the year, having that and keeping the dirt from being washed in there. So thank you for that. On the Pima Road, I've I've ridden the bikeways several times in the past week.
That's, you know, being impacted by it. And the detours on it are pretty bad. They're like the at one point, it tells you like, hey, the you need to detour and then it just stops you and there's just a giant piece of, cement missing. And your options are either to fight your way through bushes or to step out into the road and then go around it and then you're still not supposed to cross the street there and it's just it doesn't there there's not really any clear
way on how to do it. This weekend when I was cycling it, I was trying to to use the detours and another cyclist who I passed earlier, he just opted to use the currently shutdown, you know, the Mhmm. The eastern or the western half of of Pima where it shut down. And he just used that to just ride the whole way because it was just too hard to figure out how the detours would work or that or the detours just kinda stopped in the middle of everything and you just and it wasn't really clear how I was supposed to how how a user was supposed to get around.
So, if there's any way that priority can be given to, fixing the the bikeway part of that, you know, that just just off of Pima, those intersections where they go, that would be great. And then I also again wanted to give some kudos because there was one, one crossing there where, when you were going on a bicycle, you used you'd come out and then you'd have to turn and go through gravel to hit the button, and
then you would bring your bike back to the intersection and then wait for the wait for yours to get the signal. And, it seems like the posts have been moved closer so it's easier for somebody on a on a bicycle or walking to be able to not have to, like, walk out of their way to go press the button to come back, and then have to come back. So I I appreciated that, but it's, it's really hard to navigate that bikeway, currently. And, like I said, there's sometimes it just seems like the road just ends. And and they're like, well, find find your own way.
And there's no good options. Thank you, commissioner Kafta. Yeah. And then just on the on the twenty year, anniversary, you know, like, gravel rider or roadie or whatever went, I went last year. There wasn't I don't think there was anybody who looked like that on the cycle of the arts. There you know, there was people it was like grandmas and and children and everybody riding, you know, cruisers and beach cruisers and, you know, just, just kind of, in
a much more relaxed position. I mean, I I I do love it. I do love the throwback to the, like, the kind of sixties, aesthetic that it has, even though I guess twenty years ago it was still in the two thousands. Yeah. But, yeah, that that that that's the only thing that struck me there is, yeah, is that, I do like the logo. I just, it doesn't seem to reflect the people who, at least in my one year of experience on there. So, I would defer to Susan, who I know has been doing it for a while, on the type of people who, who tend to show up for for that
event. But I just want to make a comment on that. So and that is all my comments and questions. Thank you. Thanks, commissioner Kofta. I'd like that. Commissioner Banquets. Commissioner Baker? And online, commissioner Marmon, are you with us still? Yes. I am. It was a good presentation, and I do not have any comments. Thank you. And thank you, Greg. I don't have any comments either other than I I agree with, Commissioner Koftaile. It's a I actually like the logo, but it is kind of a throwback too. Yeah. A different time. Jeribald Coxon and Commissioner Koftaile, I get your I get your opinion.
It is very cool. I love it because I because I like ripping on my mountain bike, so I I just think that's pretty cool. But I you're right. You you that doesn't reflect. But it is, you know, a person on a bike and they're they're they're, you know, kinda getting getting after it, riding hard, riding angry. I got you. And you don't see that on cycle the arts. You're right. It is, that is a good point. But it is groovy. Yeah. It's I think it's I thought it was pretty cool. I'm I'm totally biased. So It it's from the nineteen hundreds. So Okay.
With that, it comes to the end of our agenda. So I will take a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. All right. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor of adjourning? Aye. Any opposed? Alright. We will see everybody in April. Have a, wonderful, rest of the evening and a relaxing spring, and we'll see you in April.