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--------- This is a work session. The mayor and council versus our park county motion state of New Jersey held on Thursday, July 2nd, 2026 advertised for 7:00 p.m. Pursuant to the provisions of New Jersey's open public meetings act, adequate notice of this meeting was properly provided by transmitting the

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notice of meeting for publication the Asbury Park Press and the Ocean Star on January 2nd, 2026. Notice of the meeting the governing body also has been posted in corridor of the municipal building and the office of the municipal clerk. Local? >> Councilmember Condos? >> Here.

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>> Councilmember Connor? >> Here. >> Councilmember Kraft? >> Here. >> Councilmember Rotondo? >> He will be later, may not be attending. He's tied up at work. He just texted. >> Thank you. Councilmember Two? >> Here. >> Council President Woolley? >> Here. >> Mayor Pearson? >> Here. >> Thank you.

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>> The first item is discussion of use of facilities application. It's on for potential action for the regular meeting this evening. It's by Trust the Man LLC for closure of parking lot two, a portion of North Ocean Avenue. And as noted, that's on the agenda. And the

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reason that was placed on the work session is it was somewhat unusual. And this would allow everyone to weigh in. Technically, there's another regular meeting prior to the scheduled event, which is a subject matter of the

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use of facilities. But I wanted everyone to be aware of the application. We have the representative here this evening as well. We've allowed these kinds of manners previously. We've

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had movies previously on beach area. And we've also had a car show authorized to using that lot area. This would be if you can read the terms and conditions of the proposal. The

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check has been paid already for the use of the parking lot number two, it's $1,775. That's copied as well. Uh the event is scheduled It had originally been scheduled on a Tuesday. It's now on

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a Wednesday. And [clears throat] uh it's from 12:00 noon till closure of the lot, which is on about 2:00 a.m. Um the issue entails the parking spots on Ocean Avenue, which are part of the

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application. The parking lots The parking spots in the lot per se, uh and Steve's weighed in on this, too. Uh we can call on him to give an opinion, but we do have an ordinance. It's covered by the ordinance. It has a flat fee. It doesn't say per spot. Uh we

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also have had The ministers have been kind enough to run numbers for what the spots would have generated if they were open on the regular meter customers' traffic that on the public [clears throat] that particular time of

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that. And I know Karen sent out an email. We've got some of those numbers as well. Uh what that would entail. And you could argue that that's should be a reasonable uh

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fee above and beyond the $1,775 already been paid. But I don't know, Karen, you've been weighing in. >> What's that? What's the number that you said? >> So they've they've already paid uh $1,775. $1,500 is for the parking lot. Um $200 is for the film permit.

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Um $50 for closing off uh one block of Ocean Ave. And $25 for the application fee. >> Okay. >> So the the the question remains is those 13 parking spots on North Ocean Avenue. And uh >> [clears throat] >> what seems reasonable to me because when

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we when we look at parking revenue, um there's like a flow of traffic. So in other words, like you can pull into a spot that already has time on it, but you don't know with this kiosk so you put more money in. So, we really don't know what the true revenue per spot is. So, my my thinking was it's just there's

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13 spaces, we charge $2 an hour on a weekday. They they want it for 16 hours. So, 13 * 2 * 16 is another $416. >> In the scheme of things for them that's like probably not >> Can I also say they wanted to rent the

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community room in Borough Hall, too? Is that >> [clears throat] >> which >> We don't have a fee for and that's you know, it's after hours. The only time we've ever had anybody in Borough Hall after hours is the Gordon Club. Um and so I don't know Sarah, I don't know have you been in touch with Park Pavilion?

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>> Um I've not yet been in touch with Park Pavilion. We're working on that. >> Maybe we will first have you identify yourself for the record. State your affiliation with the actual movie. >> I I'm Sarah Brady Stack, I'm the location manager of the independent film company Blas the Man. >> Could you just spell your last name for the record?

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>> Stack S T A C K >> Thanks. >> Um we are very very excited to be filming at Cherry Lane Motel on Tuesday, July 29th. Um we are doing a mostly we call it a

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split. We would start at roughly noon um and then film half of our day would be day and half of our day would be night. Um this movie is a period movie, it takes place in 1968. It's a spy thriller, it's supposed to be during the Vietnam War, but we're supposed to be um

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in the US. There's a soldier that they think is leaking information um and our intelligence is investigating. And this piece is specifically in Hawaii. Um and where Jersey Shore is obviously gorgeous, um but we're going to play it for this

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particular movie as Hawaii. Um the whole idea is that is a soldier who is based in Hawaii on the intelligence is investigating and they are watching them go in and out of the hotel and meet with people in the hotel. Um, so for this reason that is why we're

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requesting partially the parking. It's also for our trucks and crew and whatnot so that we have a place to put them, but it's also we don't want any modern cars in the shot cuz it will obviously ruin the illusion that it's 1968. Um, we are also

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requesting a road closure for the same reason as we can't have regular cars driving through during that time. We wouldn't necessarily need to close the road the whole time. It would just be in the morning or afternoon filming, which is like 5-10 minutes at a time. People would still be able to circle around the

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block or, you know, detour. And anyone who needs to absolutely get through we can work that out with them. If there's an emergency or something, obviously we don't want to We're just playing make-believe. We don't want to endanger anyone. Um, we really really really appreciate you

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guys entertaining this request and we don't want the town to lose money because we're here and I know the summer is a tough time when most of, you know, you're getting a lot of use out of all your facilities and a lot of people that's when they make most of all of their money for the year. So, we do

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not want our coming to be a detriment. We want it to be something that people are excited for, both the town and the residents and people who are coming to visit. And we're trying to help the town grow and the town selling it as like this is like a fun thing. Like, obviously people will still be inconvenienced and we would like some of

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that parking also to move some of the guests' cars, too, since we're going to film part of the outside of the hotel. Um, but we want, um, because we're a smaller independent film, we are also a little bit more, um, interested in having the community

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be involved as much as possible. I don't mean like working on it, but if people want to come stop by and see things, we're more than happy you know, give tours and talk to people and explain what's going on and everything of that nature. >> I know one consideration is always when there's road issues involved that

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involves the police protection and traffic control. That's covered, is it not, by the >> It would be through jobs for blue. >> Jobs for blue programs. >> And we're talking to Tom King already with the police department to set that up as well. >> And that would be a fee that the

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applicant would pay plus the insurance. But the issue Karen spoke up earlier that we have is how best to assess the impact uh financially for those spaces on Ocean Ave.

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>> And parking lot, too. >> Well, well, the parking lot the parking lot under our ordinance is as Karen said is established. It's uh uh it's 135-7 and uh if you go down to D and uh D

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uh 4B specifically says parking lots with an hours of operation $1,500 per lot. So, we have an ordinance that establishes that fee. So, I think we would need to abide by the ordinance. >> Okay. >> Um the question is it doesn't provide it provides for a road closure for a fee

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but it doesn't provide for the pay parking spaces on that road street. So, I think I think I know that Karen's done some research in terms of how many parking spots are there for how many hours at $2 an hour and $2 an hour and what is that and what is that come up to

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and assume that they'll be fully utilized on a Wednesday, which I believe is our fireworks day. >> Yeah. >> That would be fully utilized and that would probably be a a fair fee, Karen. So, what what what did that come out to? >> That was a $416. >> $416 or or $16?

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>> $416. >> So, that would be the suggestion that would be the town wouldn't make, you know, get more revenue than that. So, that would be a reasonable uh request by the mayor and council to add that as an additional fee

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based upon the request to close the road and lose those parking spaces for that amount of time. >> Mhm. >> How many spaces are there in lot two? >> How many spaces? >> Yeah. 206. >> May want to consider uh redoing that ordinance with regard to a >> flat fee for 1,500 bucks.

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>> That is our ordinance. >> That independent of this issue we should have the committee look at that. >> look at that. >> Dig into it with what's applicable to other towns, for example. What's the fair revenue stream? >> That is Kite Tuesday now because it was

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Tuesday, it's a Wednesday. That's Kite Night there. That's a little bit of a conflict, but that's further down. But, that's uh the road's closed. >> It's just a one block, right? It's >> They would be closing the street. >> That goes yeah, O Street. >> O Street.

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That's just a little bit south of of of that point. >> It's right there. >> You They can still gain access. They can still park in lot three. >> Yeah, and the Kite Night guy parks in lot three. >> Yeah. He's in lot three. Yeah. So, we're I mean, we're okay there. Yeah. Cuz it wouldn't be closing [clears throat] the the restrooms. Everything would be fine.

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>> They They had kites in the '50s, in case one just >> [laughter] >> We'll make sure they're the right type of kites. >> Oh, war kites. >> Appreciate that, Charles. [laughter] Um and I think the other issue was the use of the community room. >> Yeah, I think I think the the mayor and

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council talked about it, but I think that, you know, although we do have insurance through the joint insurance fund, you allowing in and out of the community room all those hours, I had the mayor and council consider that could really be an issue for for for the for the borough. And there's

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probably other places they could rent to or contact the sawmill. They have a restaurant and they have other space in there and the rent council may want to consider that that could be an issue. We provide a room at the Charleroi for them.

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>> And it needs to accommodate like 100 people. >> So the top pavilion would be the top pavilion would be the perfect spot because upstairs if he doesn't have an event going or whatever, I'm sure he can coordinate up an area for >> Yeah, yeah, upstairs.

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>> Yes, we are. >> So. They they make good pizza. So. >> That's what I heard before we even >> [laughter] >> That's the first thing I heard from you. >> Yeah. >> Seaside park and the ownership. Yeah, I don't think that >> Our community center

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>> It's too far away and it's too small. But I don't think they can Thank you all so much. >> Any other thoughts on council? >> Well, all of it would be too small, too. >> Yeah, no, it's have 100 people. >> So, this is on for action for this

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evening's meeting. It would and tell One separate issue, obviously, research is necessary on the ordinance for further applications, but with regard to this application, there's a recommendation concerning an additional $416.

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It would be conditioned on the payment. >> Any use of the >> community room? >> Yeah, no. Use after hours of the community room. >> I mean, that would be good. >> That's good. That's it. >> I think that would work out. >> Okay.

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>> You're saying after hours, you're saying no. >> No, any time at any time. >> Yeah, any time is not a good idea. >> Right. >> While you're working. >> Yeah. >> It's too small to accommodate You come in after hours in the board room. No, I don't know if it's going to be one time when they're sneaking through, but yeah, that's

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>> never less it's too much up in there. It's called community room for a reason. It's for the community. >> Yeah. Okay. The second issue is for discussion is awarding a contract to Cooper Electric Supply NJIB, that's the I-bank, clean

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water application, storm water maintenance equipment. Item number three, a portable diesel generator, that too is on the regular meeting agenda. It's ordinance or it's resolution rather 226-277. And

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anyone take it for summary of the background? >> Um for that 100% reimbursement grant that we received for the generator is going to be used for in the case of power failure for the the pump stations

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that we'll be putting in Long Beach. They power three-phase plus single-phase electric. >> We had to bid twice with with with it was unresponsive both times, so the I-bank allowed us to purchase it through the co-op. >> It is an exception through the

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public bid law when they when there's no bids are rejected twice, you can negotiate a price, which worked out better for the borough actually. >> Yeah. That's some good work there. Thanks, Karen. That was great. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome, please. >> Thanks. >> Anything else on that one? The third is discussion of engineering

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services contract with T&M Associates for an evaluation inventory of the roadways within the former area called South Seaside Park, which is naturally a part of Seaside Park. That's listed for consideration resolution 226-273

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at the regular meeting. Um this is part of the ongoing issues being raised and uh unfortunately, due to the failure of Berkeley Township to provide any

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documentation, any information with which to even render some kind of a response, we are making sure we have the appropriate data and we have the appropriate information. >> It definitely needed to be done.

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>> I have a question or maybe it's a comment. So, we have to extend all this additional money because they didn't do what was should have been done in good faith to these amounts that we extend now get added to those legal discussions that are to come?

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>> It seems like a very legitimate and reasonable request that that be added to what we'd be doing owing to the Berkeley Township Park. >> Right, come off the whatever theory that I hope that's the case. >> Just like the money we put into the

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comfort >> Yeah. >> The hot water heater, the toilets >> Right. >> I know. >> And the labor >> Yeah. >> And the labor, yeah. >> And the labor, yeah. >> And then it starts to add up all the things that you would have had to do. I mean, this is you know, the same thing

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to say the toilet, okay, toilet 405. Now you're getting 9,500 and it just keeps getting Okay. >> That concludes the listed work session discussion items. Any other council members have work session items? >> No.

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>> Hearing none, now we're going to the audience. If anyone has any comments on work session items, if you could give your name and address into the record, you can Seeing none, I would close the public portion and entertain a motion from the

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governing body to adjourn the work session, take a brief moment and then begin the regular meeting. Motion by Council Member Toth, second by council member Connor, roll call. >> Council member Toe? >> Yes. >> Council member Connor? >> Yes.

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>> Council member Condos? >> Yes. >> Council member Clark? >> Yes. >> Council President Wolf? >> Yes. >> Motion approved.

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Meeting to order. This is a regular meeting of the mayor and burial council, the Bay of Seaside Park, and the county votion, state of New Jersey, held on Thursday, July 2nd, 2026, pursuant to the provisions of New Jerseys open public meetings act. Adequate notice of this meeting was

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properly provided by transmitting the notice of the meeting for publication in the Asbury Park Press on the Ocean Star on January 2nd, 2026. Notice of the meeting of the governing body has been posted in the corridor of the municipal building and in the office of the

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municipal clerk. Roll call. >> Council member Condos >> here. >> Council member Connor >> here. >> Council member Craft >> here. >> Council member Otanda. >> He is tied up at work and may not make it in time this evening. >> Council member Toad >> here. >> Council President Wil here.

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>> Mayor Pearson >> here. >> Thank you. Let us all rise for a moment of silence to be followed by the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The next item on the agenda are requests for approval of the minutes. There's the June 18th, 2026 work session, the June 18th, 2026 regular meeting, and the June

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25th, 2026 special meeting. >> I'll make a motion there. >> Motion by Council Member Craft. I'll second. Second by Council Member Toth. Roll call. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member to >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. Um yes to A and B and abstained on C. I did not

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participate in the 25th. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> And item six, a request for approval of special close sessions meeting minutes that of June 18th, 2026, a close

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session. June 25th, 2026, a closed session. >> I'll make that motion to approve that. >> Motion by council president Wolf. I'll second by council member Connor call. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos.

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>> I abstain. I did not attend either of those close sessions. >> Uh Council Member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Till. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> And next we're going to uh deviate from the agenda somewhat as we have done many

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uh happy occasions in the past. And uh what is my honor to do at this time is to read a resolution from the resolution agenda. It's resolution 226281. It's a resolution of a burough of

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Seaside Park in the county state of New Jersey authorizing the promotion of Alan Mance to sergeant the Burough of Seaside Park Police Department. And it references the opening for the position

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of sergeant and the fact that uh Alan Mance had passed the civil service examination rendering him eligible for a permanent appointment for the position of sergeant. And whereas the governing body has determined that Alan Mance is qualified for the appointment of position of sergeant. And whereas it is

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the desire of the governing body to promote Alan Mance to the position of sergeant in the brow of seaside parks police department therefore be it resolved by the mayor burough council the b of seaside park county motion state of New Jersey as follows. one that

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the governing body does hereby promote Alan Mance to the permanent position of sergeant in the Burough of Seaside Parks Police Department effective as of the date of this resolution and two that Sergeant Alan Mance shall be paid in accordance with the applicable collective negotiations agreement.

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Three, the burough clerk is hereby authorized and directed to execute a documents necessary for this approval and that a certified copy of this resolution be forwarded to the chief of police, the chief financial officer, and to Sergeant Alan Mance.

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>> Do we have a motion? >> I'll make the motion there. >> Motion by Council Member Craft. I'll second. >> Second by Council Member Tooth. Roll call. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Tote. Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> We'll abstain only. My husband's on the

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department, but I'm very excited. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. [applause] It is my honor to administer the office at this time, which I have.

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Oh, [clears throat] >> and we have a special person who is going to officially hold the Bible for the oath of office. Lucky, you got to turn around so they can see through the counties.

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>> All right, [clears throat] if you could repeat after me. I say your name. I, Alamance, >> do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I [music] will support the Constitution of the United States

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>> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments

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established in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state under the authority of the people. >> under the authority of the people. And that I will faithfully >> And that I will faithfully >> impartially and justly >> impartially and justly >> perform all the duties perform all the

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duties >> of Seaside Park Police Sergeant according to the best of my ability perform all the duties of the Seaside Park Police Sergeant according to the best of my ability. >> So help me God. >> So help me God. >> Congratulations. [applause]

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And obviously on behalf of the entire governing body, the police department, all the resident citizens of Seaside Park and all the members of the other official employees, the family if you will of Seaside Park were very, very

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lucky and honored to welcome Sergeant Mance to the police department which he has served faithfully and dut dutifully and with a lot of integrity and hard work for many many years and we look forward to many years in the future. We're very [clears throat] lucky. Thank

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you for all your service. [applause] And we have obviously here if he wants to share with us any thoughts and comments. He's heading up what is honored to be an excellent first class police department.

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Welldeserved reputation throughout Ocean County and beyond. And uh Sergeant Mance is just one of many many fine officers that we are very very lucky to have here serving us in Cath Park. Chief Sergeant

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Mance is uh he's been our detective for many many years. Um when I first became chief um I actually started relying on him quite a bit. Um he was very very helpful. Um he is one of my absolute most trustworthy officers. Uh he is

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ready to be a sergeant. He will be an excellent sergeant for the agency. Um, I have great faith in him and he will serve the people of Seaside Park. [applause] >> Good job. Watch out.

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>> You don't have to stay. >> No, I don't think she can come here. >> You get to go to dinner now. >> Unless you want to stay. Of course. You're more than welcome. >> Thank you. >> Thank you everybody.

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[applause] >> And we welcome Sergeant Vance's family and the members of the police department as well who are here in attendance. Thank you all for your ongoing service and always thank the families because every accomplishment is a joint effort.

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It's always the family that's participating, helping along the way. The next item on the agenda is file reading adoption ordinance 22628, amending chapter 200, article 7, zoning provisions entitled beachfront

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residential zone. Any comments from council? Hearing one, we'll go into the audience if there are any [clears throat] public comments. If anyone has them, if they could give their name and address to the record. Yes, sir.

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>> Yes. Good evening. My name is Alan Agrian. N E G R E A N. I live at uh 104 Midway Avenue. I'm the original owner of that home from

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2000. And I have two sheds, an 8 by8 and an 8 by12. It's my understanding though that with the adoption of this ordinance, those sheds would be considered existing nonconforming uses.

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I was hoping the mayor and council or the federal attorney could confirm that. >> Sure. They're they would be considered pre-existing nonconformity. They can exist. >> Yes. And um I would not be required at this time to remove them or to modify

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them, but should a a large improvement be made, I understand that uh the property buildings would have to be brought up to vote. >> The we we can't give legal advice. It'd be

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improper, but we really shouldn't. But um to answer your question on the pre-existing non-conforming um and not giving legal advice, I'm just going to if I pull it up for a second, I just want to read it to you. Um

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so, uh the statute um says that any non-conforming structure or use existing at the time of the passage of an ordinance may be continued upon the lot or in the structure. are so occupied and

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any such structure may be restored or repaired in the event of partial destruction and and what it says is the prospective purchaser or anybody on the land at the time the ordinance you can apply for a certificate of nonconformity.

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So um and I think that's administrative not to the board because within a year you can apply for that certificate I think to the zoning office. >> Very good. >> Yes. So I'm not I don't want to give legal advice. I'm reading the statute. Um, so you may want to consider consulting someone, but I think you could also uh

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apply to the zoning office once the ordinance is adopted and passed for a certificate from the zoning officer that those sheds are pre-existing non-conforming. You can tuck that into your file and and not have any concern about it thereafter. >> Yeah, I have my construction and zoning

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uh >> right permits from uh Berkeley County. >> Well, they're there. So, and the ordinance is being adopted tonight. So, uh, just into the record, it's 40 col 55 capital letter D-N 68, which is part of our state municipalities law. So, >> all right. Thank you very much. I

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appreciate the information. >> Thank you, sir. >> Any other comments? >> Don. >> Hi. Yes. Don Whiteitman, 2000 Barn Avenue, Sassy Side Park. to put your mind at ease here. The way I read this

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is from Central Avenue up to the ocean. You're west of that. You're uh on the uh streets that are named, so that would not affect you. This is for the condominium association uh first lane to

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20th from Central Avenue to Ocean. You are in the other section. So, this would not, if I'm not mistaken, this would not affect you at all because you're in the uh um how can I say it? The uh 30 3150 zone.

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>> Well, >> I believe that's >> But [clears throat] but our or our ordinance in town only allows for one shed to begin with. >> Yes. Yes. I'm talking about the >> So, I would go ahead and read that statute and get your certificate just to play it safe. >> Okay.

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>> Thank you, Mr. >> Yes, sir. Hello, Thomas Glenn, 198 central. I just want to follow up about the sheds, right? He was just saying that anybody in Arlington Beach doesn't have to worry about it, but this says Arlington Beach.

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Right on. So, and so basically, we're grandfathered in on our sheds and we just have to get a certificate from the town saying that it was there already. A, you don't have to get a certificate. The statute reads for itself. Okay. And I can't give legal advice. I just read

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it into the record and I think he can apply to the zoning officer within a year. I think it is if uh uh if you have that to just confirm and get that certificate of non-conformed people. All right. I'm sorry. I can't give legal advice, but I'm reading that into the

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record to make sure everyone heard that. I don't So >> So I you know to protect to protect yourself. >> Thanks. Have a great of course. Thank you, sir. Any other comments on second reading of the ordinance 22628?

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>> Hearing none, I would close. The public, our chairman of the fine board is here. >> Uh, good evening. Mike Juliano, 24 Street, uh, planning board chairman. Currently, um, as mayor and council know, this ordinance was referred or statute to the

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planning board at our June 15th meeting. who was unanimously uh re reviewed and unanimously recommended that this be adopted. It's a big help to block 1692 and 1693 because for those who are not sure right now any improvement in those

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lots is going to be considered a use variance which will require a D application to the planning board which is very difficult because that prop property is currently zone 315. So this allow by bringing this zone

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across central avenue into this these two blocks 1692 and 1693 it allows them to do the same improvements that are allowed in midway. So we we strongly suggest this be adopted again it helps those people and eliminates them from

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having to come to the planning board every time they want to make any kind of expansion. >> So we with the planning board absolutely recommend you adopt this plan. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Any other public comments on second reading 226 28

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hearing? One, I would close the public portion and I entertain a motion from the council. >> I'll make the motion. Mayor >> motion by council president Wilk. >> I'll second. >> Second by council member Connor. Roll call. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes.

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>> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Tilt. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. Next on the agenda is final reading adoption ordinance 22629 authorizing the conveyance of real property located at block 26 lots 5 and

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14 on the Seaside Park tax map. And that of course as per prior meetings is the location of the Seaside Park Elementary School. And thank all the uh dual members of the committee that had worked on this from

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the school board and the council uh governing body uh to bring about uh this to its uh one of the final steps on the home stretch if you will. >> Any uh comments from the council? No. Hearing none, we'll go into the

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audience. Any public comments on second reading adoption 22629? Yes, June. >> June Corin 8114 H Street speaking tonight as the president of the Hillside Seaside Park Board of Education.

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>> And I just want to say Dr. Gleon who really wanted to be here is unable to be here so she asked me to speak. Um we have been doing this for over 10 years. Gina knows and we are very happy that

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finally we are finished and the school. I know people have lots of warm memories and thoughts about the school, [clears throat] but unfortunately that building will never meet code and can

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never be an active school before. But it can still be an important part of the township. It can still hold Zumba and pickle ball and basketball and the

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police uh equipment and code and >> the Christmas or the parties and things like that and [clears throat] the important things the 600 book library that we have there and

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>> ma jang and caness. >> So we are thrilled that this is finally coming to pass and we thank you for all your hard work and hooray. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Jim.

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>> And your hard work as well. >> Any other public comments? Uh hearing none, I'd close the public portion and entertain a motion for second reading 22629. >> I'll make that motion. [laughter] It's a

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>> tile. Now governor motion by council member tote. Do you have a second? >> Second. >> Second by council president roll call. >> Council member to >> yes. >> Council president will >> yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor.

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>> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next is final reading adoption ordinance 22630. It's amending chapter 435 entitled vehicles and traffic. And this entails the ongoing and definitely

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annual, if not more regularly, uh, survey of those individuals applying for what had been labeled to be a a handicap uh, access parking space in front of a residence. And this entails uh, some

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additional applicants who had previously qualified in what was then part of Berkeley Township and is now part of Seaside Park. And uh unfortunately some of the signs uh had been taken but they

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will be soon replaced by Seaside Park. Any other comments on second reading 22630? Hearing none, we'll go into the audience if there are any public comments on second reading 22630.

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Seeing none, I would close the public portion and I'd entertain a motion. >> I'll make a motion. Motion by council member Condos. >> Council member Connor gets the >> second is council member Condos. Sure. Roll call. [laughter]

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>> Sure. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member T. >> Yes. >> Council President Wils. >> Yes. >> Get extra points. I can scrap them if you like one. Gotcha.

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>> [snorts] >> Next on the agenda authorizations are several agreed in summary fashion. The first have been discussed moments ago at the work session. The event uh is Trust the Man LLC moving filming date uh July

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26 to July 29th 2026. There's a rain date uh July 29th. And I misspoke earlier. It's July 28th. Rain date July 29th. And now it's July 29th, July 30th frame date time 12:00

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noon to listed 4:00 a.m. albeit the lots themselves would close prior to that as per the ordinance. The rain date would be the same period of time for the next day, July 30th. And

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what had been discussed as for the work session would be two conditions. one that an added fee representing the uh loss of revenue concerning the oceanfront parking lots. That is $416.

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And the other uh condition would be uh declining uh authorization for after hours uh use of the community hall community room uh with those two conditions. B is New Logic Marine

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Science Camp July 6th to 10th, July 27th to 31st, August 17th to 21st, 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at the elementary school, Fifth Avenue, Bay Beach. And this is an application which now comes before the

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town which uh follows up on what our school board president had just mentioned. one of the many ongoing activities uh of the school and C is an event SER 55 5K race September 19th 2026

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9 a.m. to 12:30 located on the boardwalk corner avenue to sea street North ocean Avenue C Street D Street D is Zumba year around Monday Wednesday 8:00 a.m. to 9:30 Thursday 7:30 to 900

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p.m. And this two location at the Seaside Park Elementary School gymnasium and this too is one of the many ongoing activities at the school now with approval sought from the burough

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council. >> Any other comments from any council member on any of the applicants? Yes. Sorry, I said before you finished the the the declining of the use of Burough Hall community room. I think you said after hours. Are we saying it that we're allowing them during the workday? I

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thought at the work session you were saying decline it all together because of the interruption at the workplace. >> Yes. Yeah. I don't think they even asked for the day, did they? >> Oh, okay. >> They just wanted it. >> So, they're not using it at all. >> Yeah. Okay. And I'm fine with that.

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>> Any other comments from council on the authorations? Mayor just I would ask the uh the clerk to note that on the year round Zumba they supply the COI which expires on May 11 of 2027. So, I know

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that's a, you know, long time from now, but as that rolls around, as we get near May, we should make sure we let them know we'll need a new use of facilities and COI uh effective for uh at least May

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11 going forward in 27. So, it's one year, but just to keep an eye on it, you know, because this is July, I don't want them to think they're good till next July. The COI expires May 11th. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments on any

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authorizations? Hearing none, I would entertain a motion as a consent agenda for the one, two, three, four. Bullet. >> Motion by council member to second. >> Second by council member Connor. Roll

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call. >> Council member T. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. Council President Wolf. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next are payment of claims 226269. Approving payment of the atomized claims

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as set forth from the check registry billless for the time period June 19th 2026 to July 2nd 2026. Any comments from council? If not a motion >> make a motion. >> Motion by council member Craft. >> Second.

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>> Second by council member condos. Condos. Roll call. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. Council member Condos, >> yes. >> Council member Connor, >> yes. >> Council member Toe, >> yes. >> Council President Wil, >> yes. >> Motion approved.

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>> Next are the resolutions. I'll read in summary fashion. 226270 to release the performance bond and accept the maintenance bond of Earl Asphalt Company for fiscal year 225 municipal aid program improvements to J Street. 271

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authorizing the designated miscellaneous refund for planning board fees. 272 authorizing membership in the Seaside Park Volunteer Fire Company. 273 authorizing TNM Associates to provide engineering services to prepare an

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evaluation inventory of the roadways within what have been the former South Seaside Park section of the municipality. 274 accepting the retirement of the tax assessor. 275 awarding a contract to Earl Asphalt

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Company for reconstruction of parking lots 1, two, and three. 276 authorizing the adjustment for the designated water sewer utility counts. 277 awarding a contract to Cooper Electric Supply LLC for NJIB. That's the IANK Clean Water

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Application Storm Water Maintenance Equipment. Item three, 278, authorizing the purchase of two police vehicles and equipment from NJ State contracts 20 fleet 01189 and 17 fleet 00761

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279 authorizing the purchase of fire department turnout gear for Seaside Park volunteer fire company number one that includes items from NJ State contracts for 25 CM COMG 131

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365 and 25 CLMG131381 280 authorizing change order number one to the contract with Remington Bernick Engineers to prepare NJIP fiscal year 2020 2026 clean water SRF application for the procurement of

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municipal storm water maintenance equipment. 281 authorizing the promotion of Al Mance to Sergeant that having already been voted upon and passed by the governing body. 282 appointing Brian McNeel as a police officer for the

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Burough Seaside Park Police Department and 283 appointing Archello Norwick Norwicki rather as police officer of the Burough Seaside Park Police Department. >> Any comments from any council members on

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the resolutions? [clears throat] >> Mayor just have one question. 278 are completely in favor of the police cars. I'm just wondering, do we know if they're going to be painted like our other cars or going to be the stone?

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>> Well, the black on black. >> Uh I haven't decided yet. Um probably one's going to be the traditional and probably one will be the the stealth lettering. >> In all due respect, I'm not in favor at all the stealth lettering. I don't know if that ever went to me. I don't like

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the look of it. I don't think it fits the town. I I I just do do not think it's fitting at all. >> Yeah. >> I I also agree with that, too. >> People don't even know they're police vehicles until you're right on top of it. >> I you don't really I cannot believe the amount of questions I have on that

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stealth vehicle we already have in town. People like to see that movie painted. Also, >> some some people think it's another from another town because they can't see it up front closely. >> So, they're just I don't know. is something I thought of before and

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I'm completely in favor of we need the cars support the traditional >> was there a reason why that we were going with those were they more for like undercover I mean what was the rationale >> um just talking to some of the guys it's

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becoming more common in state police are going to it a lot of the towns are going to it um it's just a cleaner look a change up Most of the guys like it actually >> it's not good enough. I'm sorry.

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>> Do we want I mean everybody seems to be consensus to not go that way and stick with the traditional police cars. That I'm I'm hearing from >> that would be my vote condition. So that if that resolution then obviously would

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go ahead with the purchase as indicated but with a condition. >> Yes. >> As the uh the traditional look. >> Any other comments on any resolutions? >> Just highlight for the public. I know they you know the two police officers in the proion of Alamance. I know Jerry,

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who is the chair of the public safety committee, is not here, but um just to highlight to the public that we did have a thorough um you know uh interview process with many candidates and you know I think we're confident that these are the best candidates to put forward for hiring.

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>> Thank you. >> Any other comments from council? Hearing none, it's our practice to allow any comments on specific resolutions. That's not required by law. We do uh allow some if anyone has a comment on

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any resolution, if you could give your name and address into the record. Seeing none, I would close. Yes, Joanne. >> [clears throat] >> Uh Joanne Penn 208 K Seaside Park. I would like to know if we have a full

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complement of our what we should have of police now that we have two more officers or do we still need more? >> We have what we're replacing two uh two

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spots. I mean, we're actually looking at staffing issues associated with whatever additional duties, responsibilities might be entailed uh for the additional 11 block area that entailed what was the

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former Southside Park. >> So, yes, we have the four compliment of what we should have. >> We do have what we had, but >> not what we had, but what we should have. >> Yes, >> we know what we should have yet. We should have >> our ordinance calls for 15 police off

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with these two. It's 15 police officers because we're down to 13 with retirements and things. So, we're at 15. >> Thank you. >> With these 15. >> Any other comments on any resolutions? >> Hearing none, I'll close the resolution

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agenda. I would entertain uh a motion as a consent agenda. We've already voted on 281 and there would be the condition uh concerning the 278 the purchase of the two police vehicles as referenced on the

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record earlier. Is there a motion? >> I'll make the motion. >> Motion by council member Craft. >> I'll second. >> Second by council member to roll call. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member to >> yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. Except stayaining on the 282 and

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283. Council member Connor. >> Yes. Council >> President Wil. >> Yes. Motion approve. >> And that concludes the written agenda. Anyone else on council have anything else? >> I have one comment there. I was looking

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at the uh parking revenue compared to last year and thought we're having a good year on parking. We're seeing significantly less than we were at this point last year. So, I just want to make everyone aware of it. Not sure exactly

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why. >> Well, there seems to be um I had a meeting with Karen Cru last week. We had the event the um the tug of war and when I went to park, I had to go to three different machines

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before I got one to work. So I met with our B administrator Karen Krue and as of yesterday afternoon we have 11 kioses that are nonfunctioning. >> 11 >> 11 I don't know if that was correct. Do we have >> July 4th?

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>> I don't know if that's affecting it. I can't I don't know how many cars we normally get or what the revenue is. But and I personally was not happy when I went up there and had to go to three to I went to two machines. had to go to the third one and get one to work.

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>> Is there a maintenance contract with the company? >> There is. >> And have they been alerted or >> I'll have to defer to the chief. >> There was a time period where it was truly that company's system. There was nothing we could do.

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Um it's been a problem with this company apparently. That's why CEO Heights changed companies and changed their kiosks. Um, it was had nothing to do with anything from our side. It was the kiosk company's IT problem.

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>> Now, with those kiosk being down, does is the app still work? Like, would that would the app still work? Cuz there is an app associated to it as well. >> Right. >> Yeah. I don't know enough about parking. Please handle that. >> There's a website that works. I did that on a machine that was broken. So the app

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store that's the app. [clears throat] >> The one I went to took a credit card but didn't give a receipt. So >> you have to take take a picture of it.

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>> Did they still take cash? [clears throat] >> No. No more cash. >> There's no cash. >> Oh boy. That's a problem. >> Yeah, it's a problem. >> All right. Um,

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>> mayor, I just have a short report. >> Yeah. [clears throat] >> Why? I'm just on Why aren't we taking cash? The new ones are just credit cards, are they not? >> We haven't even gotten those because we just approved the capital ordinance, so

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they're not ordered yet. Um, these are all the existing kiosks. Um, I don't know why we're not taking cash. >> The sergeant who runs it, um, he said that the amount of cash we received was very little throughout the

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entire summer and that was the biggest problem with fixing them and then where to store the money when it's busy and giving it to the bank. Um, that was his recommendation. Um, I was we were just going at his recommendation

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>> last just I just found this out today so I haven't had a chance to talk to you but last July just unlocked two we collected over $12,000 in cash. >> Is that significant? >> What's that though? I didn't hear. >> I said that's significant. $12,000 we took in last July

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in cash only. Are you suggesting that we reinstate cash? Is that >> sounds prudent? >> I believe we should. >> It was always >> follows last year's trends. We probably should not.

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>> I mean, anyone else have a comment on that issue? >> Any objection to them reinstating cash? >> No, I would reinstate the cash. I didn't know that we were not taking cash. >> No, I I wasn't aware. It should be reinstated.

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Can the chief pass that down the chain or make [clears throat] that was over the years that was a particular function or job I remember having been there.

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>> Yeah, I always used to use use cash. >> Yeah. >> Anything else on that issue? >> Morning. Yeah. Uh, no, I have nothing on that issue. Um, just like to give the construction permit activity report for new construction there the um estimated

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cost for new construction permits were 3,790,700. There's some $450,900 for alterations equated out to $4,241,610. There were a total of 61 permits issued in the month of June.

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equated out to $50,724 in revenue. So, there's quite a bit of um I know it doesn't take much with the construction cost being so high, but that's that's a pretty generous number for a month. I think the breakdown is for electrical,

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obviously, plumbing, fire, but I think that's a good number. Mhm. >> Um, I'm sure everyone had the opportunity to take a look down the south end of the seaside park. The public works has been working extremely

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hard working on the beaches. They basically created what they can with what we have with mats to accommodate the beaches. replace faucets, hot water heater, whatever they needed to get the um

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comfort station up and working. Did a super job getting everything ready for for a Fourth of July weekend. I have to give them a lot of credit. They really pulled it together. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Anything else from council? Yes, Joe.

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>> Yes. Uh just with the uh holiday weekend coming up, we have a couple of really cool uh and fun patriotic events planned to historic society in conjunction with the town. Uh tomorrow to kick off the weekend is the ringing of the bells. So uh July 3rd at its military time. It's

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at 8:26, which would be 2026 military time. Um, everyone should is encouraged to go outside their house, go up to the beach, go out to the bayside, ring bells, bang some pots, yell, scream, and just cheer in uh, you know, the 250th birthday of our nation. Um, a little bit before that at 6 p.m. the fire

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department in Tribar are going to be uh, heading around town uh, handing out some candy, some patriotic candy. Might be an appearance by Uncle Sam maybe. >> Um, my uncle >> the summer version of Santa Claus. Uncle Sam. Um and then uh you know as as as

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always on 4th of July our patriotic pride parade kicks off uh the normal swap shift a down in Bay View uh to the 14th A I think at 9 9 >> that's going to be a nice one. We're going to have the Central Regional Marching Band. Um a lot of great bikes.

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Uh I think I spoke to uh the fire chief today. He's got a 40 foot American flag that they're going to you know employ a parade. So, it's going to be a really, really good time to celebrate our country in the best town in the country. [applause] >> And the spray from the fire will be very

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welcome. >> Not just the kids. >> Oh, yeah. >> I'm going to say that because anyone's going to come get them or they're going to run out or the kids get them. >> Let the kids get them first, we guess. And I think there's some special patriotic handouts while they last for

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the uh firet truck and the first aid are both participating tomorrow night at 6:00. >> Yes. Yes. And even though uh Councilman Connor and myself are no longer employed by the beach and recreation, we will be there at 7:00 to pick up the ice pops and deliver them and start hand well not start handing them out but hand them out

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to the free. >> Very good. >> And also um St. Catherine's programmed the bell system to ring at that appropriate time to play God Bless America. >> Oh, very cool. >> I think both the Union church is involved also. Are they coordinating the

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time so they're not conflicting? >> I think they are. >> They're far enough beautifully. >> You have stereo. No. And just mayor, real quick, just just to follow up on that, just I want to give a a huge shout out to the historical society, you know, and the

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members who have been doing a really really nice job uh planning the events for the summer. And uh you know, we had Monday night at our first Monday night concert this week. We had the uh keepsake box uh which you know, Joe was instrumental, Joe Connor was instrumental with it and one of our resident Sharon France as well and and

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residents finding to uh to [clears throat] do that. It was a really nice event at our first uh Monday night concert. And another shout out to Alana Polar, our recreation director, who came in in in a pinch to get another band after our originally scheduled band uh had an emergency. So, she got a band to

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fill in. It went a little short, but we'll we'll, you know, make sure that if we have any other additional bands, they'll do the full hour and a half, but it was a really nice event. And just a shout out to everybody who's who's planning those things, >> shells >> and the shell painting, too. The mayor was delinquent and did not mention the

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shell planning which there was a box of them and they are still available and a lot of people have taken that long run of it. So we're encouraging anyone and everyone to paint shells however you want to celebrate the 250th birthday of the country and there two locations

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where they're going being laid out at the marina and then at 14th Avenue. So there already a lot of amazing ones there and more to come and part of the celebration of the fourth. So, everyone's encouraged [clears throat] to participate. And I second Joe's

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sentiments. I think the uh the time capsule event we had reached out with the historical society and the town to any graduating senior from the high schools. Uh what it meant to be graduating in the 250th anniversary year

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of our country as a resident of Seaside Park. And uh the letters were were heartfelt. the the ones received and they were they went in the time capsule along with the official proclamation of the town and uh the resolution with the

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seal on it is in there which expanded the town and the territory that's in the and we thank David Cassadante got drone footage with the historical society and the organizers have asked and it has the entire uh contours of the town the

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coastline all the structures [clears throat] the homes and that's uh in there as well on a member stick. So uh anyone in there that of us who are here in 206 I don't know you have any order

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>> I think we're going to have a general agenda where they'll be they'll be a mention and the students that participate is invited >> on the max >> but I just want to you have to pull a plug on me so but I just want to say one

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more thing like you know I I'm a relative newcomer to town I suppose that most of you guys have been here, you know, maybe 12 years. But events like this are really what what this town is all about and it's what makes it, you know, the one of the best places to be and it's really a cool experience to see all the residents and and even the

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visitors come together and really celebrate what makes this town great and what makes our country great. So it really is cool. So looking forward to a lot of great events booked going forward for this. [applause] >> We got our bakery open today. Yes, the bakery was here and they didn't have

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anything around. >> Well, are you going to be too nervous to go in again? >> That was good. >> Want me to get into that? >> Anything else from council? >> Mayor, I can bring up the title of war.

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>> We do. We did have another event which uh raised some funds for tribal for both towns fire departments. So >> yes, that was um yes, we did. It was last weekend and uh we had a tugof-war down on Lincoln Avenue on the beach between the Seaside Heights Fire

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Department and Seaside Heights and also the Seaside Park versus the Seaside Park Fire Department and Seaside Park people and and we were there. It actually was a very very good event. I didn't know how it was going to come off or how it was going to be received or accepted. I just didn't know. It's the first time we ever had.

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>> So, uh, when I got there, there were a lot of people there. Uh, the mayor, myself, Marty, um, all of our fire people were there. It was a great, great, great event. Gina, your boys were rock stars and Gina had

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>> they were representatives. They were very strong and able-bodied. >> Yeah. >> But who weren't? And >> well, that's a that's an asterisk. >> I'm going to try to make it sound like we won, but I can't. Um, >> we got close. >> We We got close.

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>> I mean, there was a came in second. >> Yeah. >> Uh, we won the first award and we actually won it. And I'm comparing it to the other ones, which we didn't know there were other ones, but um we won the first one pretty good. >> Yeah, we did. >> I mean, we did.

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>> Hands down. And I'm telling you, the fire department, the mayor, myself, Marty Owen was there. I mean, we were tugging, man. We were tugging it out. >> So I was like, "This is great." Okay. >> So then, so then um >> So then they tell us that it's the best

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out of three. >> They changed the rules. >> Yeah. This is what I heard. And I'm like shocked. >> I'm like, "Really? I hardly have a voice right now, you know? So, the second one lasted what seemed to

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be like like an hour. Okay. The second one went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. I mean, you know, HISTORY. >> SO, ANYWAY, >> that's awesome.

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>> Came to the end, we lost in a very, very long tight race. And so then it was one to one and the third one came and we lost out. So uh but it was a fun time. It was great. A lot of monies were raised for each side.

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Like I said, try borrow seaside heights fire, seaside park fire. Uh we didn't win the tug award, but we won the Jersey Mike's amount of dollars there. So I guess we all like we all like subs. So we had higher dollars from Jersey Mike

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than Cai did. Okay. So we did that. It was very nice of the hierarchy, the management, the owners of Jersey Mike, they contributed a lot to the >> very generous >> and there were checks distributed there like you know ceremonial checks and everything and uh it was really was a

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nice uh nice event between both both towns. It really was. >> So are we [clears throat] hosting next year? >> Well, there was talk of a a repeat and they were going to start it throughout the year. Maybe have a the website up and how to donate and approach Josie

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Mike. So I know there's talk in the >> need more tuggers. >> Yeah. Anything else from council? If not, we'll go into the audience. If there are any public comments, if anyone has them, if they could give their name and address in the record. >> Yes, sir.

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>> Nelson Rosen, 9122 M Street. Um, regarding the kiosk issue, you just basically found out there's been issues with the kiosk. Is that right? >> Uh, what are we going to do going forward? >> Chiefs.

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>> To be honest, I don't know a lot about the GS. I have a sergeant who's been doing it for quite a few years. Um, he has been in contact with Seaside Heights. That's why they got rid of this company. Uh the IT has not been great in fixing things. The problems that we've

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had have been purely from the company. Um they haven't been on our side of the problem. Um I'd have to talk to my company's problems become our problems, I guess. [clears throat] >> So what are we going to lose some revenue at this point?

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>> So that would mean >> revenue is down. >> Immediate action. No doubt. And I didn't hear anything about immediate action. I just they got the problem. >> He said he was going to touch base with his sergeant to to look into the cash issue and I'm not

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quite sure what they're going to do about the maintenance. >> And you also said Karen said we've ordered some other >> order them yet. Oh, we haven't approved the capital ordinance. We haven't ordered them yet. >> Okay. >> How many were there? There were five. Five. >> If we go back to collecting cash, is

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that immediate? Can that happen? or is that in the process? >> I don't I don't know from >> the kiosk and I really don't deal a lot with the kiosk. >> The cash was our biggest problem and it

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and almost all the machines it caused a breakage and the amount of money spread out through the whole summer. Again, this is according to my guys who do this every single day. It wasn't worth how many times they had to go out and fix it, have it be fixed, store the money

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somewhere when it's a busy weekend, try and get it to a bank sent. It was just in the revenue that we got throughout the entire summer, it was a very minuscule amount and that was their recommendation that

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the cash the cash receiver was breaking so often with the weather, the salt, all that. what we were constantly fixing that was a problem. Maybe the police committee can meet with >> chief and whoever the sergeant is that

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does that you guys >> is this one of the reasons why sees heights got rid of this company there have been a lot of problems >> is it just the cash that's a problem with these machines they're not accepting credit cards also

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>> it's their IT services they were down um I know my sergeant was calling them on a daily basis they weren't great in getting back to us um and this This is again this is why other towns apparently have gotten rid of this country. >> So they're not the [clears throat]

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chaoses are not monitored weekly daily. >> We just found out that there is a problem. We don't know how long it's been existing. Is that right? >> By my sergeant. He could pull up the numbers. was he advised as soon as I

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became aware of it he became aware of it >> so it's going to be police officers these are not IT guys it's police officers are doing this they're also a sergeant who runs a a ship runs seasonals these are not IT people

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he's a police sergeant has a lot of >> but when the machine isn't working >> somebody's [clears throat] got to daily basis. He was calling on a daily basis. This company was not getting back to them and they admitted it is their

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problem. It's on their end of it. >> Okay. >> All right. I'm glad it's being looked at. Uh second issue. Uh >> as far as the expenses that are going to be for the uh the company that wants to come in and do some filming, I believe.

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>> Are all the extra expenses covered for the town? ones we just discussed. Yes, >> we just discussed them all. >> All right, so we're all covered. >> All right. Now, how about extra police? >> That was covered, too. That they'll cover that on jobs for blue.

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>> Jobs for blue. We don't pay. Yeah, we covered that. >> Thank you very much. >> Any other comments? Yes, Charlie. >> Shirley Cres, 700 North Bay Field Avenue. just to bounce off the kiosk thing. Then when they break, you don't

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have to report it to Karen or council because apparently they've been kind of unaware. It's strictly you guys take care of it. Correct. I mean he fix it. I mean >> if my sergeant becomes aware of the problem, he will fix it. Um the council

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her parents the same exact ability to get into the system as we do. So, we're both kind of find out at the same time. Um, again, >> okay, >> this is a a sergeant and a patrolman who's police officer. They're not full-time IT guys.

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>> I just was surprised that so many didn't know that who were walking into a real problem then this weekend. >> But even when we were aware of it, like I said, we kept I know my partner called them every single day. >> They were not great in getting back to us. They admitted it was their internal

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IT problem. >> Okay. >> But they weren't great in getting back to us. >> Well, truly to your point, I don't mean to just to your point, I think now that we're we are very aware of it and I I don't want to speak for Jerry, the chair of the public safety committee, but Joe, myself and Jerry, we're going to we're going to make a plans to meet with Karen, the chief, and I guess with the

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sergeant is to discuss this and and hopefully come to a solution because this is obviously a big issue. >> Oh, yeah. >> You know, whether whether it's going and I don't want to talk out of school here, no pun intended. Um, but um, you know, if that means going to a different company or or whatever, but obviously we have to come to a solution.

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So, I think we're gonna I'm gonna send an email to Jerry as soon as we get done here so we can set up a meeting immediately. >> Okay. Now, you must have been very patient. If you go to a kiosk, which I hate. I like the parking meter coin thing, but we're beyond that, I guess.

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If you go in the kiosk doesn't work, then you have to keep going until you find one. Or can you put a note in your card kiosk broken? >> Which is what I think. >> I'm sure there'll be a ticket on it when you get back. >> Yeah. So, you have to just keep going until >> I don't have the app.

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>> Now, there is an app, too. >> There's an app. >> I don't know. >> I usually walk. [laughter] So, that's all they have. >> Okay. One other question. Yeah, >> on the work session you talked about TNF with the evaluation inventory of the

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roadways. Is that something that has to be done now or can we wait till maybe we start getting money in from South Seaside to offset all these expenses we're doing? My money tree died. I mean, I'm getting a little nervous hearing all

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the expenditures going out there. or does it absolutely have to be done this year >> before we get everything squared away? >> I can tell you if you're a practitioner and a lawyer, you want to have all your facts, all your ducks in a row, any and

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all expert reports, everything lined up when you go to court. And this and that's this is one of the aspects when individual municipalities try to make a claim that say they're somehow entitled to money or compensation

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for a public easement. That's pretty outrageous. >> Yeah. >> If we want a public easement of any road as a municipality, as a governing body, we can vote for a public easement. And if there's a fee simple ownership of

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the road, it has to be looked at in the condition. We've had the roads in question looked at and in fact moving to the very top of our list right now in priority to repair for the DOT grant is 24th Avenue, the

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section where it's severe flooding and it's deteriorating. So we do know that part. We have that. >> Okay, that explains it. Thank you. >> Yeah, you're welcome. >> Any other comments? Yes.

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>> Hi, uh Kim Sabrano. This is my father, uh Wim Sabriano, 73 Decatur Avenue. Uh we were requested to come here today uh due to a the zoning officer denied a application for a permit. Um

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essentially, my dad's a disabled Vietnam vet. He and my mother have been um summer residents of Seaside Park since 1978. They're in their 80s. Recently, due to a chronic medical condition, we are concerned about their inability to get into the front um door of their

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home. Essentially, there's three steps to enter and there is a storm door. What we wanted to do was to allow for a landing which would essentially increase the the existing footprint by about 36 in. So, there would be three steps

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landing so that they can open up their storm door. We were told by the zoning officer that he denied it and that we had to come here. Um, I don't know what else. I'm not really sure if this is the correct form for this after going through all this, but how you could help

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us in this capacity. >> We're not permitted to give legal advice. I can ask the in general aspects uh attorney, but if a application for some kind of uh permits, if that's how

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you describe them, has been denied by a zoning officer, an individual has recourse under the law. Uh >> correct. >> It is not before this governing body. >> Before which governing body then? What? >> I'll refer to our attorney, but we can't

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give you legal advice. can't sorry you cannot give legal advice consult consult consult with someone it's going to be state the state >> sorry if you could give your name and address into the record I don't know

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>> Jack is that cip y first name >> Jack >> Jack okay >> c and your address >> 72 Okay. >> What we wanted to what we wanted to do

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basically was make an alteration from the steps to have a landing process adding about 36 in of space when I could actually stand and open my door. Thank you.

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>> The the the reason they gave me for the nihil talking about the curve roof porches stoops and stairways. >> You might be able you might >> So here here's my suggestion. >> Yes, >> here's my suggestion. We have a land use

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committee uh and we have members on on the governing body part of lane use committee. So sometimes when there's an issue the zoning officer may call a representative of the lane use committee and and discuss it with them. I'm going to suggest uh that you go back uh to the

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zoning officer, tell them you want the application to be reviewed and someone from the lane's committee maybe will review it and help determine if it's necessary really to go to the planning board or not. >> We'll we'll take a second. We'll take a second look at it. There's nothing that could be solved here to see

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>> it's called the landings committee. >> No, no, there's a land use committee. >> Land use committee. I have no idea what that's got. So, and so sometimes when there's an issue, a member of the land use committee will be called and say, "Can you take a look at this?" So, we're going to suggest I would suggest that that happen here before you have to

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start applying to the planning board for a variance or anything like that and have someone from the lens committee give a second look and discuss it with the zoning officer to see if it can be resolved short of because the alternative is you'll end up having to go to the planning board. This this this

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governing body has no authority to do anything. >> I didn't think of the reform. That's okay. That's okay. But but you know what? Uh we'll take I think someone will take a second look and we'll see if it can be resolved short of having to file an application. Okay. >> Okay. >> Right. Thank you. >> And the name again for the spelling for

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the record? >> Jack Sria. >> C I P R I A N O. >> Right. >> And Jack is is the applicant and the address? >> 73 Decator. >> 73 Decar. >> Okay. Thank you very much for Absolutely. Thank you. >> I thank you for your attention. Thank

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you, sir. >> Any other public comments? >> Jim. >> Yes. Uh Jim Fulcomer, 356 Roberts. >> I was just wondering about the status of

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your lawsuit to get Berkeley to give you your tax dollars from City Park. >> I did. I wrote that. >> Uh that's okay. [clears throat] I was wondering about the status of your lawsuit to get Berkeley Township to give

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you your money from South Seaside Park. >> I thought that's uh I can't comment on on the substance of it, but I can comment that there are two lawsuits. There is one lawsuit that entails

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uh the fact that Berkeley Township did not provide us with what the statute called for and that's a realistic assessment of uh any indebtedness any how to counterbalance assets to it

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whether there's any money do owing to us or to Berkeley Township. That's one lawsuit. The second lawsuit is just what you've described. We have uh filed what's called an order to show cause to

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ask for more expedited emergent relief. And that relief would be that the bow of Seaside Park is immediately entitled to a pass through of the portion of the tax revenues generated from the properties

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in question for the local school tax and the municipal portion of the tax that Sees Park should immediately be entitled to that and we should be entitled retroactively to what was already paid from April 6 prrated.

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That suit is a separate, it's called an order to show cause. It asks for expedited relief. So, there are two lawsuits. Are you going to be sending a message on taxes for the last quarter? Or is Berkeley going to do that? Or are both

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of you going to do that? >> A message about the lawsuits? >> No, about the tax bill here last quarter. Yes. >> I can't comment on what may or may not

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happen as a result of that lawsuit. I whether or not a court might direct that, I don't know. >> Okay. >> It's something that hasn't happened at this moment. >> Well, thank you very much. >> No, thank thank you. >> Let me just make one comment. At the

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last meeting, somebody complained about you spending money over there, meaning Sou Eastside Park to deliver services. But I can point out to that person and everyone here that there is now here and here is now there and we

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are going to become one big happy family. Thanks to you. >> No, thank you. Thanks to you, Jim, and everybody here. I think we are. We're as close as you can get to one big happy family. And this is a a happy celebration weekend that's about to

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happen. And we all celebrate with our families, with our friends, and how we do it and what we celebrate about our country and why we can stand up at a public meeting and just like this all over the country and say we're peace about whatever issue it might be and we

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can all as best possible work together. Freedom of speech, freedom of assembly is what was being fought for and battled for uh 250 years ago. And we're also looking into the history. It happened

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right off of this very coast. And we all I think that's one of the programs that's being put together. It's a joint event with the two towns with Seaside Heights, Seaside Park, the local school in Seaside Heights as well. uh and perhaps a county looking at the

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skirmishes that happened. Uh some very famous historians have attributed every I think we all know that New Jersey itself was the crossroads of the American Revolution and with uh New York in the hands of the British and and

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Philadelphia uh the hand hands of the government as you will of the patriots. We were right in the middle and it went back and forth. But obviously Princeton, Mammoth, Trenton, those battles are front and center. But some very renowned

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historians pointed to the Jersey shore and they were called pirate patriots and they actually were instrumental in disrupting the British supply lines. The ships right off of the beaches here right at Cranberry Inlet skirmishes

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which is right next door to us is are labeled to be some of those very skirmishes that didn't rise to the level of battles. But we've looked into that and we're planning a program in the fall for part of the celebration of the 250th anniversary of the country that's going

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to point that out. It actually has been identified as instrumental in keeping the morale of Washington and those fighting for him who were about to quit. And if they did know that some of the ships were disrupted, they actually launched from the beaches here. the

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small boats went out, disrupted, took prisoners, took all the goods off the ships and came in with them. And those were very instrumental in keeping the cause of the revolution alive. So, it's a great country and I think we're very fortunate to not just to be part of it,

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to be celebrating it right here in Seaside Park. So, you're you're correct and we welcome you and thank you, John. Don >> Don Whiteitman 2000 Avenue Seaside Park.

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I just have a question for you. I know the county board um is involved in this. We get our new tax bill coming out. Will there be a reflection [clears throat] of anything on the third and fourth quarter of that tax bill or will it

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still be the full tax showing for the whole year? Is that something that someone can ask the county tax board, will they make an adjustment because that'll be after January 1st? >> It will indeed. And that's part of our

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suit. I mean, I can't anticipate what the judge who's handling might rule, but >> Okay. I just wanted >> We're getting a tax bill in July. >> Will it show something? We don't know yet. >> All right. [clears throat] Thank you.

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Chinese >> even if it does show the wrong thing I think what the influence of what you're saying the money should be immediately redirected I mean that's front and center you we're all believing that that's the right thing to do and we've

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done more and more research and thanks to some of the very people yourself included in this room who've given us the trail the documents we have uh documentation it's uh admittedly on a smaller scale But what happened in Rah

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when they uh accepted a portion of the roadways owned own that's a part of Thomas River. The two municipalities argued kept an argument going about whether anyone should owe anyone any

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money and if so how much. But they carved out immediately an agreement that said we reserve the right. We're going to fight about this. We're going to argue about it through our attorneys, but the cash flow, those tax dollars were immediately forwarded right to VAT

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for the local portion of the bill. They had an assigned agreement and and in fact then they appealed to the appellet court. It went on that long with an appeal, but the revenue stream, which just what you're saying and what we are most governed by is saying, you're

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absolutely right. And I [clears throat] I mean I would think Berkeley Township might be wise to look at what happened in the past. It may be of a smaller scale, but there is precedent. >> I want to thank you for the amount of time you're putting in because I know

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it's a huge task and I appreciate what you're doing and hopefully this >> I'm hoping that uh you know this can be expedited through the courts or somehow. Thank you. >> No, we are too Kathy. >> Yes. Thank you. Yeah, Kathy FR 356

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Roberts. I just wanted to mention that today, July 2nd with John Adams, John Adams thought that this should be Independence Day because this is a day that they took the vote. This is the day that they voted and July 4th was a

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signing. So I say this with a degree of reverence and celebratory. So we can celebrate that too tonight that they took their vote. And it is the 200th well July 4th will be the 200th

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anniversary of the death of both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams as many of you know died on July 4th. Jefferson in the morning who said is it the fourth and John Adams who said Jefferson still lives but he was in era. He didn't know

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that Jefferson had died that morning. So I think it's it's very um be reverent in the idea that both men who did so much for our nation thought

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of July 4th 50 years both of them on their deathbed. But today was the day that John Adams thought we should celebrate independence. So >> the vote. >> Well said. >> Good. And actually I have to add Yeah, that's a really good point. And those

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two men were actually very politically different but became [clears throat] very good friends and Abigail John's wife kind of urged them to get together again and they wrote they wrote letters very frequently. >> A big Jefferson fan. Big James.

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>> Yeah. Thank you, Kath. Any other comments? Hearing none, I would uh close the public portion and unless there's anything further from the council, entertain a motion by Councilman and second

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by second, >> Council President Wil. And with that, we certainly uh will have a vote and we wish everybody and your families a happy fourth long weekend and a happy rest of the summer season as well. And

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>> council member C. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. Council member to >> Yes. Thanks everybody for coming out. >> Thank you very much.

