Pursuant to the provisions of the New Jersey Open Public Means Act, adequate notice of this movement was properly provided by the transmitter of this notice of meetings for publication to the Aspbury Park Press into the Ocean Star on January 3rd, 2025. The notice of this meeting of the governing body has
been posted in the corridor of the Municipal Building and in the office of the municipal clerk. Roll call, please. >> Council member Emma, >> here. >> Council member Condos, >> here. >> Council member Connor, >> here. Council member Craft >> here. >> Council member Otanda
>> here. >> Thank you. Council President Will >> here. >> Mayor Pearson >> excused. >> Thank you. >> We'll have a moment of silence and a pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We have the minutes. October 16th, 2025 work session and the October 16th, 2025 regular meeting. Do I have a motion on
that? I'll make the motion. >> Motion by Bill Craft. >> I'll second it. >> Second by Joe Carter. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member interview. >> Abstain. >> Council member Condos.
>> Yes. >> Council member Rotunda. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> Special meeting minutes of October 16th, 2025. Special meeting. Do I have a motion? >> Make the motion.
>> Motion by Bill Craft. I'll second it. Second by Joe Cond. >> Council member Crack. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Amfield. >> Council member Condos. >> Abstain.
Council member Rotunda. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motes. Final reading and adoption of ordinance 2025-24 amending the bar code of the bar.
So to amend chapter 450 entitled water and sewer. Do we have any comments on this? I need to open this up. Um do any um anyone from the public have any comments on this ordinance 2025-24?
I will close the public motion. Did I hear a motion? >> Make the motion. >> Motion by Bill. >> Second by Gina Congress. >> Council member K. >> Yes. >> Council member. >> Yes. >> Council member Emma.
>> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Otanda. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. with the final reading and adoption of ordinance 2025-25 amending chapter 45
article five of the code of the burrow seaside park entitled property owners use of the verge anyone on council have any comments questions on that >> no I think we've talked about that one a few times it just added the mailboxes to the permissible >> that is correct
>> items anyone for the public have any com questions or comments on Um, final reading of ordinance 2025. I will close the public portion. Do I hear a motion? >> I'll make the motion, Mr. President.
>> Second. Motion by Rayville. >> Second. Second by Bill Craig. >> Thank you. Council member Amabil. >> Yes. >> Council member Crack. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. Council member Otenda.
>> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Mush approved. >> Next we have the following reading and adoption of ordinance 202526 amending chapter 435 entitled vehicles and trafficked. >> Anyone on council have any questions on that?
>> No, this is just adding another handicap spot for particular residents. >> That's it. Anyone from the public have any comments or concerns on 2025 26? Seeing none, I will close the public portion. Do I hear a motion?
>> I'll make the motion. >> Motion by Jay Connor. >> A second. >> Junior Condo. Second. >> Thank you. Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Ammobile. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes.
>> Council member Rotundo. Council attender, you're on mute. Jerus >> Jerry some squealing noises. Maybe Sounds like it's from outer space. War of the world. >> That's the old flying saucers.
>> Jerry Jerry's out in outer space in the world. >> That's right. Exactly. That's okay. >> On the uh I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> No, please. Okay. >> Uh just waiting for your vote on the uh final ordinance um
>> 2025-26 amending chapter 435 entitled vehicles and traffic. >> Thank you, Council President Wil. >> Yes. Motion approved. We have payment of claims 2025 345
approving payment itemized claims as set forth on on the check registered bill list for the period October 17, 2025 to November 6th, 2025. Is there anyone on council have any questions on that bill list?
>> No. Just move. >> Yep. Um, do anyone like to make a motion? >> I'll make the motion. >> I'll second. Mr. Mayor, Mr. >> I have a motion on the floor by Joe Connor and second by um Ryan. >> Council member Connor.
>> Yes. >> Council member, >> yes. >> Council member Condos, >> yes. >> Council member Craft, >> yes. But I have abstained on one item over a check to myself for reimbursement for the October senior lunch.
>> Thank you. Council attend. >> Council President Will. >> Yes. Motion approved. >> Resolutions. 20 uh 346 authorizing acceptance of a low-speed vehicle. 347
authorizing Remington Engineering to provide professional engineering services for construction management and inspection service for a K Street road project improvements. 348 authorizing the reimbursement of designated water and sewer utility
accounts. 349 designating a handicap parking space on the street for private residents. 350 authorizing the execution of a change order number one to the contract between the Barrow Seaside Park and
Black Rock Enterprises for stocking road improvements authorizing the renewal of a shared service agreement with Ocean County for the drug recognition expert callout program FY225/2026
352 Authorizing the renewal of a shared service agreement in Ocean County for the driving while intoxicating enforcement program FY2025 slash2026 authorizing the hiring of skater software software maintenance service
through the competitive contracting process. 354 authorizing membership and participation in the national purchasing partnership MPPP go national purchasing cooperative pricing system appointing
appointing seasonal employees for the department of beach control appointing I'm sorry 355 appointing seasonal employees for the department of beach control 356 appointing a claim s claimment certificate policy for 2025 5
and 357 authorizing the ex execution of change order number one to the contract between the seaside park and open construction for the boardwalk construction of phase one.
Anyone on council have any questions? No. It's good. Very good. Good. >> Yeah. Does anyone from the public have any questions on the business resolution that are listed on the agenda? Please stand up.
Michelle Michelle Miller, 1500 Lake Avenue. Um I kind of like have a two-part um question about resolution 347 or or more about the Remington and Vernick. Um, I
understand Remington and Vernick are for construction and for the land part, but we seem to be still behind on Bayfront projects and Remington and Bird are involved in that.
It's like, how much money have we spent on different surveys for them and we're not getting anywhere? >> You know, I don't see any progress. >> This isn't specifically on the resolutions. >> Okay. So, Remington and Vernick are
specialized in land issues and the roadway improvements, right? >> That's who we chose. >> They all send it out for you. We send it out for proposals. >> Okay.
>> We do branch it out to all of our engineering firms that are listed on January that we have I I guess you know it's just a question we you keep on using them and I can understand for roadway and we've you
know included them on whatever proposals um but it's like it's my understanding that they are the experts for roadway and land use. So whatever their requirements or their you know um
certificates that this is appropriate for that for the roadway improvements. Okay. Um I'm glad K Street is getting it. They need it. My extra comment is please don't forget Lake.
>> Thank you. Is there anyone else? Please claim 48 11th Avenue. My question is why is one um spot for handicapped parking in front of a a house in an ordinance and another
one is in a resolution. What's the difference? I I can explain. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Um, so for handicap spots that are on Route 35, because that's a state road, they have to do a traffic regulation
order. And in order for them to do a traffic regulation order, they request that the town does a resolution in support of it. Um, but we still approve that by ordinance as well. Just for their their process, they need a resolution of support.
>> Okay. Okay. The other question I have on that as I'm reading this, it says such spaces are for a vehicle owned by the handicapped person or another occupant of the residence who is a member of the immediate family of the handicapped person. So, am I reading that that if
let's just say um it's a husband and a husband and wife and he is handicapped and they have the space and the son that cars I don't know in the shop wherever and the son comes to visit and so he can park in that spot >> as long as the placard's on that
vehicle. Well, how can you put a placard for a handicapped vehicle? It is a placard issued to the person or the vehicle? >> The person. >> The person. So that would mean that if the son is going to take his father
somewhere, >> but if he's just coming for the weekend, he still can just put the placard in his car and leave it there. That doesn't seem right. Well, you know, you're making then we'd be making assumptions of what they're going to be doing >> and I don't think we can do that.
>> Shouldn't be doing that. >> Thank you, Bill. >> When they apply, they apply by >> placer. >> Okay. >> Anyone else from the public have any questions on the resolutions? I'll close the public portion. Um, do I hear a
motion? I'll make a motion to approve in full. >> I have a motion by Gina Cons. >> I'll second it. >> Joe Connor. Second. >> Thank you. Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Amfield. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft.
>> I do accept. I um I sorry on 346 I stay. >> Thank you. >> Council member Rotunda. Yes. >> Council President Wil.
>> Yes. >> Anyone at Council have an over? >> I was just going to couple things. I just want none of them are you know resolution type things. One to say thank you to everybody who came out for the scarecrow contest I think or wasn't really a contest. I think we'll call it
a parade or something next year. I think we kind of misnamed but I think that was a success. We put up I think I don't know how many posts up there. 14. I think we >> Yeah, I think we filled 10 of them and it was fun. I think everybody had a good time. Um I know people were asking the
last time about you know committee meetings. We have a bunch of them. I think we have a full calendar over the next couple of weeks. So we have a meeting with the recreation committee coming up on the 12th. So hopefully we'll have something to report after that. Um, there's also a follow-up meeting um with the board of ed that's
coming up next Friday, I think, on the 14th. Um, as I've reported before, we've been waiting for them to get back to us with a proposal and we haven't received that yet. So, this is a follow-up to that session. Um, I think we might have mentioned it, but only because I was
looking at my calendar. On December 2nd, there's also a celebration at the Upper Shores Library, which benefits all of us on the Barrier Island celebrating their 30th anniversary. So, that's coming up if you'd like to attend that. Um, and I don't know if you were going to mention the two listening sessions. Do you want
to mention those? You want me to say the dates, >> please? >> So, we have two uh public listening sessions that the consultants that we've hired um to give us all of the information so we can do our due diligence for potential annexation of
Berkeley Southeast Seaside Park. Um, one of them's on November 10th and one of them's on November 24th. I think the first one's at 6 p.m. and the second one's 6:30. Correct. >> And those will be held here in council chambers and facilitated um by that group and I believe Jean
Cypriani >> um our attorney for that. So it's you know council will be listening as well as anybody else who would like to come and share their input. So those are just some dates that I wanted to mention. >> The 10th is just Monday. It's like
>> yeah Monday coming Mondays right this is one of my last meetings in the burrow. I'd like to thank the people of Seaside Park. It was my honor to serve you people in Seaside Park. It was my honor to serve with the esteemed board and I'm very pleased to pass the
torch to my good friend Johto. I'll know we do a good job. Thank you. have a couple meetings left. >> Well, unfortunately, I I understand that young lady, but I have a boss. She wants to go to Florida and can I say something?
>> Yeah, call in. There's a lot of things that go to the force court with, but that's not one of them. >> I have to mention something about uh the marina committee met about two weeks ago with uh three of our engineering firms. We had three separate meetings. This is
in regard to the total reconstruction of the marina. Um that involves uh roughly 2,300 uh lineal feet of bulkheads, all of the fingerps, uh electricity,
uh water, um the whole kitten, the entire the entire re reconstruction wouldn't change anything about the existing uh office and bath house that is there. It's just the um the marina proper that will be
done. Um we're waiting for estimates to come in from the uh three engineering firms for what their uh price will be to uh to work up all of the design as well as
their estimates of how much the project will just add up to that bill. The the project will not be done. to be done in phases, but there's a very short window of time that the construction could can take place. So, it has to be broken up in phases
>> and we believe in three phases or maybe more. >> Yeah, we're we're hoping to start the uh the first one the uh December beginning of December of next year, 2026. And of course it would need to be
completed uh for that phase uh by March 31st because the marine opens on April 1st. So there's there will be at least uh two or three uh phases most likely
three the way I see it right now. And that's all. >> And the funds would come out of the marina. >> Yes. Yes. This is uh coming out of the marina utility. All of it uh does not come out of any taxpayer payments uh taxes. So everything basically is uh
shouldered on the uh uh slipholders basically. Anyone else? I'll read my report. Public works committee status report book update. As of 10:31, piling driver was 45%
complete, family was 40% complete, and decking was 15% complete. The overall project is pro approximately 37% complete and slightly ahead of schedule for the late January, early February completion.
Parking lots one, two, and three anticipated imp anticipated bid date is December 15, 2025 awarded in January 2026 with construction to commence spring of 2026. Construction costs are estimated to be
to be 2.3 million financing through the Ibank with the potential of 2000 $2 million in principal forgiveness. We have some internal projects. The construction office issued 75 term
permits in October totaling $19,886. 105 building subcode inspections were performed in 81 passed and 24 required reinspections. And also just like to add the um it's getting to be that time of the year that the rental inspections will be going out
sometime in um December for next year. So they're also already prepping and working on that. Phase one of park central has started. It will consist of c custom benches and pavers. Papers installation began today. The questions
we have identified a vendor for the parking blades but they have to be they have to apply for the New Jersey BRC the business registration certificate. Once the BRC is posted to the state website
we can place the order. sto st storm drains on Avenue are the responsibility of Ocean County calls were made out. The bridge department has been out for all the damage and the um the storm drains have been cleaned more
than once. I know we had one storm and then finally a week another storm. Um I know they're out there cleaning them. The um burrow has been investing in our new water and sewer infrastructure since 2010. In that time we have saved an
average of 469,225 per year to the Ocean County Utility Authority. Fees on March 1st 2014 water and sewer rates were reduced to the current rate due to the savings. The side streets of Brighton to Porter
between Central at Notion are the only remaining streets that need to be upgraded. Verizon this is good news. I know everyone's been waiting for this. >> That's right. >> Verizon has filed a notice that the BPU of their um intention to provide files
cable television service to Seaside Park. Verizon did provide a timeline um did not provide a timeline of when the service would be available to Seaside Park residents. I assume notice will go out. We'll probably get flyers
or something to that effect, but we have been notified. And that is my report. Anyone else on council? Anyone from the public? I'll open up to the public. Alan Moley at 1450 Street. I know we're
having a presentation next Monday. Are the the firm that you hired, are they going to give handouts to the audience? Are they bringing handouts? >> No, >> I don't think so. >> No, this is questions. This is a listening session. They're going to
listen to your questions. >> They're gathering. They haven't they haven't completed their study. >> It's a listening session. They're going to listen to comments and questions. their question, you know, >> concerns, >> concerns and questions.
>> I listen aware of that. I thought it was >> okay. We haven't received anything. I think we talked about it at a prior um meeting when people had asked like, well, when do we get to give our input because I think there was a question about did it have to go out to vote and the the answer is no, it doesn't that
the council ultimately needs to decide. But one of the steps of the process that they have to complete is to get input from residents. So there'll be two sessions. It's one on Monday and then the one on the 23rd >> and then and then after that when they >> they have to pull
>> compiled all the information they'll come back to us >> and present it to the public. >> There has to be a public hearing first. >> It's a massive job Alan of all the data and things they're trying to put together present. So yeah.
>> Okay. So bring your questions. Yes. >> Hi. Um, Holly Burn, 18 Brighton. I'm going to piggyback what Al said. I think the way it's represented, and thank you, Eve, for putting it in the taxpayers newsletter is people are thinking that it's a listening session, meaning we're going to go and listen to what you have to say to us. I don't think they
understand it's a Q&A kind of thing. So can that be publicized or or put out there somehow someway? >> It's not a Q&A. It's a it's a community listening session. So it's a consultant listening to the community. That's why it's called a >> we can then ask questions and inquire
and and bring our >> they they are very interest I'm representing a whole bunch of people tonight that that's the interpretation is that it's not it's that it's passive. We're going to sit and listen to what they have to say. Meaning the listening session. No, they're listening to the residents.
>> Can you read what it says? And maybe we can put something then it's a little more clear. >> Brief presentation. >> I'm asking Jenna what it says on the right. >> The notice says the purpose of both special meetings is to hold community listening sessions to allow the public an opportunity to provide feedback on
the proposed annexation of South Seaside Park. >> So, the public will be allowed to to speak on on that. that session. >> Okay. >> Like I said, the way a lot of times it was interpreted was it was a listening session. We're going to listen to what they have to say. >> Quite the opposite.
>> All right. Thank you. >> The the brief presentation is just um a summary of what the situation is and what the summary of the process basically. And then it's open to the public to provide their feedback and ask questions. >> Public meaning South Seaside residents
too. South Seaside Park res. any stakeholder, anybody who wants to share. Thank you. >> Please go Martin, K12 North Bay View Avenue. Uh before I have my questions or a comment, uh congratulations to Gina and Joe. I'm
sure they're looking forward to it. Um in reference to the county doing storm drains and I know Bayiew's a county road and I believe I street for all these years we've assumed. Um, unfortunately, and they did a beautiful job putting
drains in down I street. Unfortunately, and maybe I wasn't here, every puddle that ends up on Central floods on the corner of I on both sides, north side and south side.
It can be dry all over town. And I don't know if they have not, as far as I've seen, pumped or cleaned out those two drains at all. So, I don't know. Do I I don't know who the liaison is on council to tell me who
to write to or call for the county. >> Well, it's on record. You just said it. I will have the bar administrator follow through tomorrow to to check. >> Yeah, I I called the county after that first storm and they were out the next day. So, I'll call them tomorrow to see if they've gotten to the the storm
drains on my street. We watched them go past every morning. >> Huge truck. >> Yeah, we would do a followup on a count. >> Okay. Said that too. And as I was getting ready to call the county back, they said, "Oh, wait. No, they just came back and they did it." So, I don't know what their process is, but I have a
direct line to the director of that department, the Rose Department. >> Okay. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's It's flooding constantly. >> Absolutely. Second thing is as what Allan asked and Holly my question is since it is Seaside
Park um taxpayers basically paying for this study as far as South Seaside and you do represent us um and I know it's a public meeting anybody can come but to ask questions will it just be seaside
park residents? No, it's open to the public. >> Public meeting for both towns. >> No, I know it's public. Anybody can come, but I didn't know if like somebody could come in here and stand questions like myself. >> Yes.
Anybody can come in from Tom's River and ask questions. Yeah. >> Oh, okay. I didn't realize >> anybody. >> Okay, sounds good. Um, >> take your time. Oh, >> that's that's really >> You will get over here tonight. Don't
worry. Um, >> there's an evacuation sign in front of our house, and I did take a picture of it in every ugly storm we've had. I have um we were always thought to believe it was when Fortit River was up and
running. as far as nuclear since that is not in operation. Is it for nuclear evacuation which we don't have anymore or is it for town evacuation which in that sense is really scary because you can't use the road
when we have a problem. >> So >> okay I don't know the answer to that. Okay >> then we will look into that. >> Thank you. >> I I don't does anyone have the doesations for any emergency any emergency. Any emergency where you have to evacuate, that's the purpose of the
evacuation. >> Well, then it's really ironic and it's >> poorly placed. >> Well, they don't want you to wait until you're flooded out. They want you to leave before you're flooded out. >> Well, that's not always possible. Comes during the night, >> but it's for any emergency declaration
to evacuate. >> That's the route. >> Okay. Well, new has to be found. Let's see. Uh we have even asked uh prior police chiefs to come and sit on our porch during the summer. And I only bring this
up now. It is only an issue really during this summer. Um that for every street we have in Seaside Park, before you enter Bay View, there is a stop sign. People are very used to
cars having to stop. That's not the case on High Street. There is no stop sign. And I don't know again if that's a county issue, but it's certainly a safety issue. It during the summer when you have little kids and people walking, they
expect the cars to stop. And I know they're supposed to because of the >> walkway, >> okay? >> They don't. It It's unfortunate. Uh we have seen not this past summer but other summers people have bikes have tipped
over because cars got so close to them. Really scary. So if you'd like to join us at any time during the summer you're welcome. Okay. stop. Um, oh, one other thing and it has to do
with I guess um the reconstruction or uh work that will be done on the uh boat >> marina. You do have cameras as far as safety and
security for the marina. >> Everything's there. the electricity, whatever. If they could put another one that faces Bay View or picks up part of that, I
mean, it would be really a safety issue for first aid responders that might head down that block and already find it blocked off. uh for the police to immediately know that there's flooding to put up a sign at the end of the streets that you can't come down. I
don't know if that's a possibility >> and it would allow people to also >> for the few osprey attempt to nest in that nest. >> So, so we are in the process of putting a camera there so so on top of the marina building so people can view the the sunsets the osprey nest.
>> It's already done. >> Well, we're just waiting on a part right now. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. So it'll face out. >> Correct. >> Okay. Yeah. Sounds right. Um I think >> it'll be similar to our beach webcam only be the baseline. >> That that's been a request for resident so that we move forward on that. I did
we did need our I just didn't realize I got it was done. I've been looking for it myself. >> Sorry missed the >> That's great. Please. >> This one is kind of different. Um, in South Seaside they have a snow fence on the west side of where the few trees
they have are placed. Uh whether it helps or not, I don't know because usually it would be during a very bad storm. It's just a snow fence, but it's on the west side of the vegetation that's left and it's >> okay. Yeah, it is.
>> You're familiar. >> I'm very familiar with it. I don't know if the same thing can be done where we have vegetation that's left um that's eroding away very quickly. Um probably more so at the north end there than the south uh by the boat uh by the yach
club. It's very it's thick. It's flourishing. Uh but just a thought. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks Kurt. >> One other thing. >> Thanks Kurt. Good. Let it let it rip. I mentioned it last year at a council
meeting. Um, it is not new. It is the utility polls that are tipping. >> I know you had a problem with one. There's going to be a problem with a lot more. It's not up to you unless you can write and really hound the utility
company to take action. It's it's really dis scary and disgraceful. But I thank you for listening. I am done. >> Thank you. Thanks, Kurt. Thank you. >> Is anyone else? >> Good evening. Andy Chuck, 1807 North Bay
View. Um, last week I sent the mayor and council a letter. I hope you all got a chance to read it and understand what our situation is on North Bay and that's the area between Stockton and Baragot and pretty much all the way down to
Decar as well. Something needs to be done with regards to when we have these torrential rains that somebody be notified either send a police car up and stop the traffic from coming in. It's it's a hazard to the people is a hazard
to the properties and we've had substantial flooding on our property. A lot of dirt, a lot of mess afterwards. Um cars come around that bend, they see the flood, they do two things. They they drive through at 40 mph or they turn around and go back wrong way down the
road with traffic coming at the last stone. I watched two cars missed each other by 6 in because one guy was backing up and the other guy came flying around the bend and my wife called the police at roughly 2:30 to 45 minutes before the cops showed up and closed the
road. I mean, it's it's the state highway at that point as well. I don't know whether that has anything to do with but there should be something done you know get some just proactive have somebody come up there at least check the road you put signage out along the bay to stop the flooding there when it's
going to occur something should be done up there you know it's just it's a hazard and I don't know if anybody's had any comments want to ask any questions >> no I I'm familiar with I went up there during the flooding and I did fill up after the flooding and I am familiar
with your with the issue up there and it's the third time this year and I mean I know you know the work was done on Stockton and that that that street flood as well. I mean neighbors cars have been you know damaged over there. >> Yes. >> Um it just seems like since that work on
Stockton done we've had two storms that have caused a flood. I was told that work that was done had nothing to do with but just kind of strange that work was done. We've had two floods since then. The water just doesn't go down. This last storm water didn't go down till 10:00 at night. Normally it's you
know immediately as the rain stops everything drains it settles and it's gone but the sun is not. I also noticed mentioned about this cleaning the sewers along central are they sorry they're working their way back out of the uh causeway and heading
out 35. Are they going to come back around and do that section? Cuz as of >> that's two different the county has their own crew. The state is doing something. I don't know what the state has been doing on on on the highway >> on central. >> They've also sent cameras down and everything. So, I I'm not familiar with
that project. >> Yeah. Nobody's I just wonder if they, you know, if anybody can find out if they're going to come back around and do it because it seems maybe that's part of the problem as well. Maybe those suits are blocked with with debris on the sand and what have you. >> I did read read the email and I did speak to a bar administrator and we we
are not done doing our investigation. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Denise Chuck 1807 North Bay. Just to follow up with my husband when he said, "I didn't hear a response. Will you be proactive and put something in place
that when the rain comes that heavy that fast that somebody will take a look down that way and stop the traffic before it it causes additional damage and safety issues to our property and people? I can cheat. >> I mean, I can answer that. You're not
going to like my answer. >> Okay. >> Um, the proactive part of it, you would because of the way that's set up, it's a state road open. We have to physically put an officer at that cut through because it confuses everybody as soon as you block that off. So, you actually
need an officer sitting there telling people, "Hey, you need to go up because you have to understand Seaside Heights is flooded. Seaside Heights is pushing their cars towards us. We're pushing them out. Cars are just circling around. So, you physically, let me finish. You
physically have to tell each person coming in, cut through, go down to CVS and come up Ocean Avenue. That's the only route that was available. So, I have one officer doing that. I have one officer when you curl around into Bay
View leaving town, another officer there. I had a third officer who was directing school buses, letting off kids, getting them through the water because they had to go the wrong way. So, they had a car going lights and sirens. I had
no other officers at that. I was answering calls as the chief of police. I have no other people. You can't just put cones out there. Can't just put barricades out there. The state usually comes and they put their own barricade trucks out there. They were so backed up
they had no truck to give us. That was the situation. The water came up so fast. There is no proactive. You We ride that constantly. My guys are looping that 50 times a shift. There is
no even on Bay View. We wait till the water. Oh, it's coming up. Hey, public works put out the barricades. We don't put out the barricades. So, it's never been a hey, let's anticipate the day before because
honestly that bad of a flooding. It hasn't happened in probably a year and a half. So, it's not that super common where it floods that badly on Central Avenue. Now, years ago, it did. It flooded all the time. So, to to proactively I got to take almost all my
officers off the road. I can't cone it and I can't barricade it. You have 18wheelers. You have delivery trucks. People don't know what to do. So, you actually have to physically have officers sitting there stopping each
person. Hey, you must go back through the heights to CVS back up Ocean Avenue. People don't always know that. Um, so the barricades, that's when you get people spinning around trying to go, where do I go? Where do I go? And
honestly, if I didn't have a class one, I wouldn't have had enough officers doing that. Like I said, my I was end up answering calls. We still have to answer calls. We had wires down. We had other calls. Um I only have a couple officers on at a time. Um cones and barricades
just won't cut. People would just blow through. So you physically have to have an officer there. I only have two or three at a time. >> Can I speak now? >> Yes. >> Okay. You have a flashing sign that we post when areas are closed. Can't you
move that sign where the entrance comes into Seaside Park, alerting people, roads flooded, you're see straight into the heights. >> We put up barricades all the time. >> I'm not saying the barricade. I'm saying the sign telling people what's going on. >> Well, to to physically move that sign,
it takes quite a bit. And again, I'm taking another car that I don't have to put up a sign. And the state doesn't want you putting up barricades wherever. They will normally bring a barricade truck and they will do it. Otherwise,
you have to physically have an officer telling people where to go because they get confused because again, you have Seaside Heights. They're flooded. They're just telling people to go to Seaside Park. We're telling them you can't come through Seaside Park. So now they're getting
frustrated. We have to physically tell them this is the route you must go. >> Okay. So my question then would be what's the solution? How do we protect the safety of our residents and how do we further protect our property when these situations arrive?
>> As soon as the water we were advised of the water getting that high and it came up quick. So >> I agree with you. It did come up quick. >> As soon as that water came up, we had three officers just in that little tiny train. That's all I had on. Well, I
>> I had no other officers to go answer calls. They said one of my officers had to escort three school buses to get kids home >> because they had to take them the wrong way down oneway streets to get them home. I ended up answering calls, which
is unusual, but I'm going to do it. >> I just only have so many officers. You can't just plop out barricades. It just it won't work. I I understand that. But again, I'm going to say what do we do to protect the safety? People turning around going the wrong way on the road,
flooding happening. That's fake situations that is causing damage. >> You had to manually put a car out there. People are always going to blow past. You can't stop every single person from going through. >> You put up those barricades
every single >> every single time that people blow past them. No, it that's why you have cars with people giving directions. >> I think you've answered it multiple times. >> Well, and I've questioned it multiple times. How do we protect the safety of
>> the question is you the chief did answer your question. >> I'm not satisfied with the answer. I I don't think that's >> You have to accept that as an answer because he gave you the answer. >> It's not an answer. It's not a It's not a solution to the problem. I call
police. Let me finish now. I called the police twice. Took over 45 minutes for somebody to come there. We stood out in the driveway to try to direct people ourselves. So, it's not a quick response when this happens. And I realize we're not the only name in town. There are
other things going on. We realize that. But when it does happen that fast, that quick, there are issues that need to be addressed. >> Let me just answer your own question and I wanted to interject. We're going to end it there in a short amount of time. One thing, since the mid90s, there was a
project on the books for DOT to straighten out the highway into central and close off North Bay. You're correct. >> That project was done, this would be an issue. >> And you're correct. >> You're correct. >> You're right. >> I was going to say that. >> I was going to wait until we go ahead.
>> We can't go ahead. Michelle Miller, 1500 Lake Avenue. Um, we had questions about reverse 911. That could be an answer, at least for us residents. Um, we somebody questioned
that it wasn't available. >> I knew that it was, you know, and Karen even responded to it. I went on that link and entered, you know, information which basically I know I did this probably 10 years ago.
When a flood comes that bad, why can't we have a reverse 911 warning the residents to avoid that and to go to CVS, you know, because the flooding's so bad? >> All right. Thank you. That's your
comment. We'll leave it at that. 8048 11th Avenue. Um I would like to congratulate Gina and Joe on >> look forward to um another year. Um secondly, I want to thank the um council
for the scarecrow event. Um I think it was great. It's it's one of those things that is a small town wonderful thing and hopefully in the future it will expand.
And just to comment on what Holly was saying about the listening session, what it says is, and I'm reading, these sessions will include a brief presentation and open public comment. So I think maybe Jenna had mentioned or
somebody had mentioned perhaps some kind of clarification could go out because believe me when I tell you people think that this firm is going to come in and say stuff and obviously based on what we've heard tonight that's not really
the case. So I think it would behoove everybody's uh best interest to um clarify that somewhat. >> Thank you. >> That's thank you. >> Okay Edie. Thanks. >> Okay, good one.
>> Close the uh public portion. >> Do we have a motion? I'll make the motion, Mr. President. >> If you first council member Anvil, >> yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Otenda. Yes. >> Council President Wolf. >> Yes.