--------- call the meeting. So here I'm gambling. >> That's gambling. >> That's gambling. It's a work session of Mayor and Burough Council of Boris Seaside Park County voting state of New Jersey held on Thursday, December 18th, 2025 at 7 p.m. Pursuant to the
provisions of New Jerseys Open Public Meetings Act, adequate notice of this meeting was properly provided by transmitting the notice of the meeting for publication in the Annsburg Park Press and the Ocean Star on January 3rd, 2025. Notice of the meeting of the governing body also has been posted in
the corridor of the municipal building and in the office of the municipal clerk. Roll call. >> Council member Amabil >> here. >> Council member Condas >> here. >> Council member Connor >> here. >> Council member Crack >> here. >> Council member Rotunda >> here. >> Council President Wil >> here.
>> Mayor Peterson >> here. >> Thank you. The first item on the agenda that we have is a proclamation from the governing body and on behalf of the
entire community. And that is a special proclamation we have for our retiring council member, uh, Councilman Raymobile. So, can we have this? If you could, uh, stand up for us. I can read
this. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. >> And offer this for you. This is in recognition of Ray Almobile's contributions to the Burough of Seaside Park. Whereas Council Member Almobile was first elected to serve a three-year
term beginning January 1, 2017. And whereas Council Member Almobile was then reelected in 2020 and 2023, respectively. And whereas during council member Almobile's nine years serving on the burough council, he was an important
member of the land use committee, the beach operations committee, recreation committee, public works committee, and liaison to the environmental advisory committee. And whereas during his tenure, Council Member Ammobile has been
characterized as an individual with the courage to speak his mind. And whereas council member Ammobile has been known to maintain a constant watch over the beloved town of Seaside Park as he patrolled the community in his daily
walks up and down the boardwalk. >> Oh, you're right. And whereas Council Member Ammobile was a service member of the United States Coast Guard and retired at the rank of chief petty officer and he was also instrumental in facilitating the official Hensson
bestowed upon the Burough of Seaside Park by the United States Coast Guard in a flag raising at the historic former Coast Guard station 109 which now proudly serves as Seaside Park's Burl Hall. And whereas the mayor and burl
council thank all our veterans of the United States Armed Forces for their service to our great country. Now therefore, I mayor John Peterson Jr. on behalf of the entire Burough Council of Burough Seaside Park and all the members
of our community and the county of Ocean State of New Jersey to hereby present this proclamation to Burough Council member Ray Emma to thank him and officially to recognize his years of service to the Burough Council and the Seaside Park community. So, we're
honored to present this It was my honor to serve the people of Seaside Park. It was my honor to serve this magnificent board of council members and I will miss you all. Thank you very much for remembering me. I appreciate it.
Thank you. Thank you. >> Be in good health. >> Yeah. Thank you. and gossip >> work on his tan all year long. Now >> the the next item is a continuing discussion. We've had a conversation at
a prior work session and I know uh considerable research has been ongoing since that time and the issues entail the parameters of the ordinance the fee structure the number of permits and
enforcement how best and most efficient uh an enforcement system might be what to what we have and what might be if if that's uh working effectively. So, it's all about the beach buggy permits and of course this came about in part uh
because of what happened in nearby Allen Beach State Park and the number of people from our town and all over the county of ocean and in fact state now it's come out from some of the figures that the uh percentages of people who were given the buggy permits for Allen
Beach were more out of state than instate. So that brought some pressures on us and how best to uh enforce our ordinance and the number of permits was one of the items. The fee structure and I I know the committee looked at it with
some of the fees that were in place at other communities. You see the chart there other beachfront communities. So I can turn it over. I know that the committee we talked we we now have 250 as the max by resolution and the
ordinance says as a resolution to be set by the governing body something to that effect. I know we've looked at it that other time. >> Yes. So I know the fees itself we've talked about potentially raising it and now looking
at what's uh commensurate with other towns we're >> we're in line really. >> So I don't know there was some sentiment of yeah we're even on the high end but we're 50 right? >> Yeah. So I know there was some sentiment
of uh of perhaps maintaining that but uh increasing the number somewhat and what would be that >> magic number. I the only uh issue that arose that I've observed I know those two days of the bass came in
there was a a lot of buggies out there. I don't know you know other than that it seems manageable and they're not a huge amount. never never an issue >> one day was everybody was Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I don't I don't know what everyone's
thoughts are. >> You want to summarize it, Joe? I mean, we talk >> Well, yeah. I mean, I can summarize. I think it's coming down to um I I think as we discussed, it's probably a good idea to keep it at $50 right now. >> Um the actual ordinance says uh selling
them calendar year, right? And but we're actually selling them seasonally, right? >> No, we're selling calendar now. We talked about changing it from a calendar year to a season, but that was getting too complicated. >> Okay. But the the
Okay. So the 2026 sticker >> Mhm. >> would go from >> January 1 to May 14. >> Right. And then till the end of December. >> So 10 one when they can go back on >> till 10. Yeah. >> Till the end of December. >> End of December. Okay. Right.
>> So selling them for the calendar year, keeping it at 50 and uh and enforcing it down there, you know, as much as we we can. Um especially when there are days like that where there's a number of them out there. >> Uh because I'm sure people have come if
we're not enforcing it, they'll say, "I don't enforce it. might as well just go on and nobody's ever going to come up to you anyway. So, why not, right? So, and Karen, we sold all 250 so far. >> By November, we sold them by So, we sold 250 by November.
>> You should maybe not specify and buy for 400. >> Yes. So, >> as a lot of the towns have not specified not well three that we have listed here, local ones. >> I know LBI is OBI, but there's a local one not specified. They could be selling
six. Not specify 600. I don't think it's 10. >> Yeah. >> I mean, we should just limit it. I mean, not limit it and just buy a bunch and like 400. And if you need to, you buy more or >> I think that's good as much as you can
and keep it open-ended. So, instead of >> lock yourself in into a corner with with like a specific number. So, we could be a not specified, right? and order them for next year. >> But if you're not specified, do we risk the I don't remember us talking about
that part about not specified. But do we take is that risky that you could have too many of them? And to your point about if like the fish are really jumping, you're going to have more. >> Well, if you're talking, then you stop selling. >> Stop selling. >> But by what basis will I be able to stop selling them? Then you can
>> ordinance is crystal clear. 13513A. The maximum number of permits shall be that's mandatory language established by resolution of the seaside park opening body. So I suggest that you establish a
maximum number >> maximum number >> per ordinance as required >> and we but we've never done that yet Steve right I understand it I don't think Karen didn't >> I I couldn't find a resolution >> you couldn't find any number where that's established
>> don't know where the 250 came from >> yeah why is there a maximum number one hold that many is there a maximum number we have an ordinance >> I understand that but why do we Why did they set a maximum number? You know, >> it's for overcrowded. >> Overcrowded. I mean, 250 is the max, you
know. I mean, I'm just being Why wouldn't they set it at 175 or 300? I Where they got the number 250? >> I don't know. Nobody knows. >> Nobody knows. I don't know. >> But we sell them. We sell out the 250. So, we're saying other than those couple
of days where >> there was a lot of people because the fish were really jumping. You're not having >> right >> an issue. There's no issue as far as I've been made aware. And so increase it to a number. Yeah. And increase it and then >> because you can't arbitrarily then just
stop selling them if we feel like it's too many. >> You can't. >> But then you'll be out of compliance with your ordinance. Like you couldn't stop selling at 300 if your ordinance says up to 400. Could you? >> No. >> No. So that's what I'm saying. You have to set a number. You have to max the
number cuz 250 right now is an arbitrary number, >> right? >> That's simple. Can >> Can you leave no number? >> No. >> Come up with a number. >> Can you change the number? >> Can you change the ordinance? >> Change the ordinance established by
resolution. >> That can't be changed. >> Three or four maximum number of permits. >> No, no. 37 and a/4. >> Pick a number you think that's the beach could hold a maximum number of vehicles.
>> We have a mile. >> I don't even think it could hold 250 at 130. >> Not all in a 400. >> 400. You're selling out 250 in November. >> You start right
>> 300. Now we're number >> Yeah. I was pretty much the counselor 300 350. Let's do 350 to start and we'll see where it goes from there. >> I would prefer to opt on the high side of 350 than on the low side. >> Sure. Okay. >> Okay. >> I think this year you have a chance that
you might sell them and get that revenue because people who wanted Island Beach aren't getting them. >> That's another extra hundred that we do >> and we can see how it works this year. >> Test and see how it >> and see if we have $5,000.
>> That's what I'm thinking. The biggest biggest complaint that I've gotten from people who have those passes is they complain about people on the beach who don't have the passes. And the one day that we did enforcement, we had about 10 people come to the code office wanting to buy one. So there's been a lack of
enforcement over the years. So people matter of fact, I was up on Bright Avenue at a bench with a bench program. They can't I can't hear and I just watched the truck just drive. I just drove right up. >> You're right. Just go right up. >> You don't see anybody in there. So with enforcement,
>> you know, we'll definitely get 350 with enforcement in Way Island Beach. >> Yeah. >> Anybody have an objection if that's on the rework because that's January one? >> Yeah. >> Put that on because otherwise there could be confusion and have it on the
website as well. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> That's that's very true. So we go 350 >> an extra >> 100 uh keep it at $50 and forces. >> Okay, there you have it. Now I know where the number came. >> And it's for the calendar year.
>> Yes, I think >> they purchase for the calendar year, but you're really only allowed on >> that specific period buggy period. >> You're not allowed on September 30, >> right? >> Mhm. >> Yep. And the caveat occasionally fish
and wildlife might set some other regment part of it. Yes. Okay. The federal law would trump it. Whatever we might want. >> That sounds like sounds good. >> Yep. Okay. That works. >> Okay.
>> Anybody else on any work session items? >> No. No, I don't we have need for a resolution to go into closed executive session, but perhaps for time sake, we might uh have public comment on the work
sessions first and then go into that and then we could go right up on the times. >> Okay. >> Thereafter. So, as such, I'll open the meeting up to the public. If anyone has any public comments on the work session item, feel free to give your name and
address in the record. Do they count? Mike, >> uh Mike Spatterino, 59th Avenue. Uh I have two comments. Uh first, you got to excuse my naive. I was not aware that we had any permits allowing any kind of
vehicles on our beaches. >> Uh maybe Mr. Barski can explain that to me. I don't know what criteria makes a beach buggy. Uh is it a 4x4? Is there a truck? Uh, you know, I know he knows it
in detail, but I I didn't know that we allowed any vehicles on our beaches. And when are they allowed? >> Yeah, the permit has a list of requirements. >> The permit itself has a list of the requirements of what is needed in the vehicle. >> Is the vehicle in check inspected before the pass?
>> Uh, no. They just have to sign. >> They have to sign that they meet all this, >> you know, you have to have a shovel. You have you have to have fishing equipment on you. It's off of pleasure >> when they buy the permit. >> It's listed on our it's right on our website the application. You can read
all the by guidelines what is needed for the vehicle. >> Mr. Spafino section 135-14 of our burough code has all those specifications. >> Okay. >> It's in the code uh ABC D. It's A through K.
>> And those are the specifications for the vehicles. It's a fishing equipment, bait and tackle. Uh, each person has to be over 12 when said vehicle is not operating. Must be actively fishing. Tire gauge, spare tire, workable jack,
board support, jack and sand, tow chain, snatch line, shovel, flashlight, fire extinguisher, auto first aid kit, litter, trash bag, minimum one quarter tank of fuel. >> All right. Is there a time frame cuz time? >> Yeah, the time frame. time frame is uh
May 16 to September 30. They're not allowed and they're allowed the other time >> October 1st to May 14. >> All right. All right. Uh my second thing uh I I think uh when you're honoring
somebody for their service to the community, uh I noticed that your habit is to do this presentation during the work session. Uh the work session is not recorded for public display, is it? >> It is.
>> It is. Well, either way, uh customarily in my experience and to honor Mr. Ammobile, I think it would have been more appropriate to put it in as part of uh the uh regular agenda. That's all. >> Thank you, Michael.
>> Any other public comments on the work session items? hearing. None. I would close the public portion and I'd entertain. Maybe we'll have Jenna read the >> the resolution. >> Do I have >> um resolution 2025-385
resolution authorizing the burough council to meet in executive session? Whereas the open public meetings act public law 1975 chapter 231 permits the exclusion of the public from a meeting in certain circumstances. And whereas this public body is of the opinion that
such circumstances presently exist. And whereas the governing body wishes to discuss contract negotiations, shared service agreement, property acquisition, personnel matters. Whereas minutes will be kept and once the matter involving the confidentiality of the above no longer requires that confidentiality,
then the minutes can be made public. Now therefore, be it resolved that the public be excluded from this meeting. >> And do we have such a motion? >> Motion. Motion by council member condos. >> Second by council member Rotunda. Roll call. >> Council member Condos.
>> Yes. >> Council member Rotunda. >> Yes. >> Council member Amabil. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Crack. >> Yes. >> Council President Wilk. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> And we'll retire to the judges chambers
for courtesy to the public who's here. our work session with the close executive session now concluded. Uh as the work session has already entertained public comment, I would entertain a
motion to adjourn the work session and take a brief second or two and go right into the regular meeting. >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by council president Wil. >> Second, Mr. Mayor. >> Second by council member Amabloo Paul. >> Council President Wil.
>> Yes. Council member Emfield, >> yes. >> Council member Condos, >> yes. >> Council member Connor, >> yes. >> Council member Craft, >> here. >> Council member, >> yes. >> Motion approved. Part: 2
Call to order the meeting of the mayor and burough council of the bor of seesaw park county voting state of New Jersey advertised for Thursday December 18th 2025 to begin at the conclusion of the work session
which has just just now ended. This meeting has been advertised pursuant to the provisions of New Jerseys open public meetings act. Adequate notice of the meeting was properly provided by transmitting the notice of the meeting for publication in the Asbury Park Press
and the Ocean Star on January 3rd, 2025. Notice the meeting the governing body has been posted in the corridor of the municipal building and in the office of the municipal clerk. Roll call. >> Council member Amville >> here. >> Council member Condos >> here. >> Council member Connor
>> here. >> Council member Craft >> here. >> Council member Rotunda >> here. Council President Wil >> here. >> Mayor Peterson >> here. >> Thank you. >> Let us all uh stand together for a moment of silence to be followed by our pledge of allegiance.
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. The first item on the agenda
seeks approval of the minutes for December 4th, 2025, a work session. December 4th, 2025, a regular meeting. Any questions or comments by council or if not, a motion. >> I'll make the motion, Mr. Mayor. >> Motion by council member Amabil.
>> I'll second. >> Second by council member Connor. Roll call. >> Council member Amabil. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. Council member Condos, >> I abstain. I wasn't here on the fourth. >> Council member Craft, >> yes. >> Council member Rotunda, >> yes.
>> Council President Wil, >> yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next are special meeting minutes for December 4th, 2025 at close session. Is there a motion? >> I make the motion. >> Motion by Council Member Craft. [clears throat] >> I'll second it.
>> Second by Council President Ro. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Council member Annabiel. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos >> abstained. Same reason I wasn't there. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Rotunda.
>> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next are authorizations. There is one Seaside Park Yach Club Trustee meeting. Date Saturday, January 10th, 2026. Time 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon. Location in the
council chambers. Any questions or comments? Or if not, a motion. >> Make the motion. >> Mot motion by council member Condos. >> I'll second it. >> Second by council member Connor. >> Roll call. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes.
>> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Ammobile. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member Rotunda. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next are payment of claims 225 386.
approving payment of the itemized claims as set forth on the check registry bill list for the time period December 5th, 2025 to December 18th, 2025. Any questions, comments from council, if not a motion. >> Make a motion.
>> Motion by council member Craft. >> I'll second it. Second by council president W. Roll call. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Council member Emville. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. Council member Connor, >> yes.
>> Council member Attenda, >> yes. >> Motion approved. >> Next are the resolution agenda number one is 225 378 authorizing a shared service agreement with the Bureau of Seaside Heights for the cost of
emergency medical services. That had been carried from discussion at the December 4th, 2025 meeting. And I understand that there is a motion to table to obtain further information and
background uh from the council. Is there such a motion? >> I'll make [clears throat] that motion. >> Motion by council member Condos. >> Second. >> Second by council member Rotunda. Roll call. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Rotunda. >> Yes. >> Council member Amabil. >> Yes.
>> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council President Wil. >> Yes. Motion approve >> and the other resolutions as listed are read in summary fashion 3 87 terminating shared services agreement
between the Burough of Lalad and Seaside Park for municipal court administrator services. 388 authorizing entry into the first amendment to a shared services agreement with the Burough of Surf City for municipal court administrator services. 389 authorizing the adjustment
of a designated water sewer utility counts. It's block 66 lot 9. 390 authorizing the adjustment of designated water sewer utility counts block 51.01 lot 9. 391 authorizing fireplace for the
Grove of Seaside Park. 392 authorizing the designated miscellaneous refund for permit fees block 38 block 29. 393 authorizing an education reimbursement 394
awarding competitive contract 2025-9 SCADA SCATA software and systems maintenance [clears throat] 395 rejecting all bids received for the K Street roadway Improvement project 396 rejecting all bids received for well
number eight re rehabilitation 397 rejecting all proposed Proposals for 22617 professional planner 398 authorizing the release of the performance bond and acceptance of the maintenance bond for the Seaside Park Marina breakwater
improvements project 399 appointing an account clerk for the finance department 400 authorizing the transfer of the year 2025 municipal budget appropriations as per NJSA 40 capital A4-58
and 49 91 authorizing the cancellation of unexpended balances in various capital funds. Any questions, comments from council on any of the resolutions? Hearing none, I'll go into the audience
uh which is our practice. They're not required by law. If there are any comments on any resolutions uh on the agenda, if you have any, if you could give your name and address into the record. Yes. Two. Tom Joseph, 704 South Bay View Avenue.
Uh, I've got a couple of what I hope are real simple questions. Um, the shared services resolution. The title of the resolution doesn't mention Berkeley. Every place you see
agree [clears throat] shared services agreement with Seaside Heights and Berkeley in the text of the resolution. That's what it says. Seaside Heights and Berkeley in the title. No Berkeley. Um,
is that the message you want to be sending? I'm I'm not sure that makes any sense. >> Neither do you. >> I don't I don't understand what you're talking about. Sorry. >> I'm sorry. I understand what your question is. >> My point is why would you leave out
Berkeley in the title? >> Are you planning a shared services agreement with Berkeley and Seaside Heights? If you are, shouldn't the title reflect that so that somebody reading the title would know what was in it? To leave them out, it may be simply a
clerical error, but it still looks odd. Then 390 adjusting the water and sewer bill for $135,000 for a residential
lot and house. What kind of screwed up bill preparing software can't figure out that $135,000 for a [snorts] water and sewer bill? There's something seriously wrong. And it shouldn't get to the point where you
gentlemen should have and lady ladies should have to talk about it here. That should have been caught before the bills went out the door. If it was $1,300, I get it. But $135,000,
you should seriously consider whose software you're using to to prepare your bills because that's kind of a dumb thing to not have in there. And That's other than that, I'll say it now so I don't have to get up again. Public
comment. I wish you all a happy holiday and I and I hope that the rest of the holiday season is a pleasant and [clears throat] enjoyable experience for all of you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you, Tom. >> Thank you.
And on the issue of the bill that we're talking about, >> I'm sorry, >> the background information about the $135,000. >> The the meter was broken. The bill went
out. Um the meter was broken. And I mean, certainly the the resident didn't pay that amount. No. >> Um you know, we're just billing them what their normal usage 420 for a multif family home. That's what I understand. The meter itself was broken, >> right?
>> And any other public comments on resolutions? Mike. Mikeo, 59th Avenue. Uh my question is more directed towards the uh the police chief here because we have resolution here about fire police and uh I just
want to know what are the parameters of what they're going to be allowed to do but they don't have police training. So >> they don't fall under the the police department. They fall under the fire department say fire. So, does anybody
able to explain to me what their uh fire police are going to be allowed to do as fire police? >> Usually, the fire police are older members of the fire department. Usually, they're the ones that you see would block the road when trucks come.
>> They're they're trained firemen. They have that kind of training. >> Their training that they get for fire police is probably through the fire department. Um, Chief Vincent, who's probably you want to talk about specifics, but that's usually the fire police are. >> No, I just wanted to find out if they
had any other responsibility other than sight control. >> Yeah, I actually asked that question when I read the agenda, too, and I went to the ordinance. Basically, you know, in the event of different fires and different drills, they protect property contents, establish fire lines, keep
people back. um in the you know it goes through but they're not you know they're not all part of the police department so it's all listed you know under the ordinance of what they do they have a badge that says they're fire police and it's a 5-year term at the chief's
discretion of who they choose >> okay I mean yeah it was a good question because I had no idea either I didn't mean yeah >> okay I understand that >> any other comments on resolutions hearing none I close the public portion
that I would entertain a motion as a consent agenda for members 387 to 401. >> Motion by council member Carl. Second by council president Ro. >> Council member K. >> Yes. >> Council president. >> Yes.
>> Council member. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Otenda. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. That concludes the written resolution agenda. There are no ordinances as that
would not be permissible to carry on to 20 thou to 2026. So, anyone else on council have anything further at this juncture? Hearing hearing none, I'll go into the audience if there are any public comments. If anyone has any, if they
could give their name and address into the record. Mike You can do it. >> Uh once again, Mike Spatino, 59th Avenue. Come over and visit. I have nice lights up, man. I'll give you a drink.
Uh >> good. >> The things I want to just say is that the uh I would like to hope uh suggest that Diane Ilgrand, who's uh the co-chair of the environmental committee, uh she's not uh re-uping. So, uh, she's
gone done great deal of good service. I hope that she'll be recognized and that uh I guess uh Karen knows that uh the residual of our uh aotted funds for the environmental
committee was voted to uh let it be utilized for the uh water station, water uh water filling station that's going to be put up at the uh Lake Avenue site uh for a beach playground,
which I think is a very good use of that money. I'm glad they're doing it. Uh and uh once again to what Tom says, merry Christmas. Happy New Year. >> Merry Christmas, Mike. Thanks, Mike. >> Thank you, bud. >> Any other public comments?
Hearing none, I would close the public portion and unless there's anything further from council, entertain a motion. >> I'll make that motion, Mr. by council member Ammobile. >> I'll second >> and second by council member Connor. Roll call.
>> Council member Emma. >> Yes. >> Council member Connor. >> Yes. >> Council member Condos. >> Yes. >> Council member Craft. >> Yes. >> Council member >> Otendra. Council President Wil. >> Yes. >> Motion approved.