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Thank you for humoring us while we chatted for a little bit here. Welcome to the May 2025 Simone County Board of Adjustment meeting. For those of you in the audience who haven't been to one of our meetings before, please allow me to have a few minutes of your attention to
share our procedures. As we go through each item, uh staff will introduce it for consideration. Uh if this is something a matter on which you would like to speak, please fill out one of the forms that's out in the lobby and give it to our
clerk and just wait till your turn comes. The way we proceed is the applicant after staff introduces it uh the the applicant has a chance to share their thoughts. Uh anyone who supports the applicant then can get up and speak.
Then anyone in opposition can be heard and if necessary the applicant has a chance for rebuttal. Uh comments should be restricted to pertinent information that's on the agenda of on the agenda item. We don't get into neighborhood disagreements or homeowners disputes or
any of that kind of stuff. If you're an individual, but not the applicant, uh you'll have three minutes to share your thoughts. If you represent an organization, you'll have six minutes. Uh and when you do come up to the podium, we request that you identify
yourself by name and address for the record. Uh we may ask questions of staff, of you, of the applicant. So don't be surprised. Uh and any information that you share, photos or whatever, uh we retain as part of the
record. If what you have is just digital on a device, we can put it under the camera and we just ask after the meeting if you would send a copy of it to staff. Once we get through all of that, I'll ask the board for a motion. And once the motion is made and the floor is closed,
we might discuss amongst our ourselves first. At that point, the floor is closed. Uh during voting, board members who do not vote yes or no are presumed to have voted yes. Uh and finally, if you're a person agrieved by a decision
of this board, uh you have the right to appeal to the county commission and there's a process for that and after the meeting staff can help you with that process. So having said that, number one, please. Good evening, Angela Gates.
Item number one was continued from the April hearing. So it is a request for a fence height variance from 6 and a half feet to 8 feet in the R1A single family dwelling district in the estates at Aloma Woods phase 2 subdivision located
at 5729 Oak Lake Trail. The existing 90 linear feet of 8ft tall privacy fence is 1 and 1/2 ft over the maximum allowable height. The estates at Aloma Woods Homeowners Association approved the privacy fence. One letter
of support was received from the proper property owners directly behind where the variance is being sought. A building permit 24-16748 has been submitted and w and and should the board of adjustment approve the variance, the permit can be
approved. The request is for a variance to section 30.14.19 of the seminal county land development code and there have not been any prior variances for the subject property. And this concludes my presentation. Miss Gates, I you mentioned there was one letter of
support from the rear neighbor. That's not in our packet. Do you have a copy or Since this was continued, I believe we got the letter of support. I do have a copy of it. Um since this was continued from last month and the letter was submitted late after the agenda was printed and it was continued. I don't
think it got or if you just tell us what the address I mean is it just kind of one of those things we we approve them. There's nothing beyond that. It's the um from the neighbors directly behind them located at 5532 White Haron Place. Gotcha.
Gotcha. Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, any other questions for staff? All right. Thank you, ma'am. Uh is the applicant here. Okay. Are they not here again? Again. The chair would entertain a motion to continue this towards the end to the end of the meeting.
Mr. Chair. Sir make a motion to continue this item till the end of the meeting. Do we have a second? Second. Any opposition? So move. We will come back to this. Let me make a note and then we'll move on to number two.
All right. Number two then. Item number two is a request for one, a roof height variance from 12 feet to 14 1/2 ft, and two, a setback variance from 30 feet to 17 ft for an existing storage shed in the R1 AAA single family
dwelling district in the Wilson Place unrecorded plot subdivision located at 411 Kentwood Avenue. The existing shed is 135.8 8 square ft and encroaches 13 ft into the
required rear yard setback. A code enforcement violation 23224 was issued for the structure resulting in the necessity of this variance. The property owner has applied for a building permit
248765, but will require the approval of both variances before a permit can be approved by zoning. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. And this concludes my presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, any questions for staff? Is the applicant
here? Would you mind coming down? We might have a few questions for you, please. And whomever is going to speak, if you'd uh come to the podium, please and share with us your name and mailing address. or street address 411 Kentwood a Sanford
Florida and your name please ma'am Jill Kelly thank you ma'am uh before we ask questions anything you'd like to add to what staff had said I mean it's been there 25 years I've been there eight so I didn't build it you know it's just one of those
things I got you get pinged on and now I have to deal with it that answers one of my questions when you bought the place eight years ago. There we go. Gentlemen, do you all have any questions? All right. Uh, have have you chatted with your neighbors about this? Yes.
Okay. What are their thoughts? Do you want to know? Yes, I do. Um, here's one of them right here. Well, we we'll get to that. Okay. Um, but but you've reached out to your neighbors and chatted with them. Yeah. Nobody cares. That's what I wanted to do in a
nutshell. No one cares. Been there since all of them have been there. or yeah, it's a lot of them that aren't here think it's government overreach that I even got pinged on it when the prior owners put a roof
on it. Nothing happened. But see, then we all got to meet so nothing happened then. Gotcha. Well, well, thank you, ma'am. I appreciate your time. Appreciate it. U last chance. Any questions? All right. I normally would I say anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter and I think we have someone. So,
please sir, if you share with us your name and address, here's my information on it. Thank you. Yes. My name is Wayne Malm. I live at 5311 Lynwood Circle. My backyard is adjacent to Jill Kelly's property and I
look at this building every day. The building is very wellkept. It has been there since I've been there. I've lived at this house for 19 years. The previous owners bought the house. The building was existing when they bought it. The previous owners had a
roof put on, was inspected. Nothing was said about the building. What I don't understand is why is the county suddenly stepping up and saying, Joe, you've got to pay for a permit and get this put on a property. Seems to me it should be grandfathered in given that that it's at
least 25 years old. It's been through every storm we've had for the past 25 years. And I think the the county on on their graciousness ought to say we let this slip by 25 something years ago when
the first builder of the house who built the building put it up and didn't get a permit for it at that time or did and the permit's been lost. I don't know. But I have no issue with it. I look at it every day. It's wellmaintained and I
think you ought to allow the variance. And just to answer a question you have, staff isn't authorized to kind of let something like that go. That's that's why we're here. And so we're we're your neighbors that we're going to we're chatting with about it. I I I just have issue that uh when they came to to
inspect the roof that they had installed, why at this time when this is probably the third roof that's been inspected, was it now brought up and not when the first time it was re replaced? It's a good question.
And you know, why was there not some leniency given to Miss Kelly on this situation? Stay tuned. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone else in the audience to speak in support of this matter? May I ask a question to
this gentleman? Uh, outside, please. Who's relevant to the case? May I ask a question relevant to the case? No, sir. Uh, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, your pleasure. Move to approve. We have a motion to approve Mr. Beley. A second
from the vice chair. Those in favor? I There we go. this taken care of. Enjoy and hopefully you won't be bothered again. Number three. Item number three is a request for one, an accessory structure size variance from 840 square ft to
1,800 square ft and two, a height variance from 14t 8 in to 17t 5 in for a detached garage in the A1 agricultural district in the Semolates Unit 2 subdivision located at 772 Malard Drive.
The principal building has a living area of 1,680 square feet and is 14 feet in height, 14t 8 in in height, excuse me. The proposed detached garage will be 1,800 square ft and be for personal use
only. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. And this concludes my presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentleman, questions for staff? See none. Is the applicant here? either anything y'all would like to add to what staff had
shared. Okay. Uh seeing none, is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Is there anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen. Move to approve. All right, Mr. Levant's
move to approve. Do we have a second? Second. Second from the vice chair. All those in favor? I I opposed. All right, enjoy. Number four, please. Item number four was a request for one, a rear yard setback variance from 30 feet to 10 feet
and two, an accessory structure size variance from 610 square ft to 880 square ft for a shed in the R1A single family dwelling district in the Lake Sven estate subdivision located at 7340 Lake Drive. The proposed storage shed
will be 880 square ft and will encro encroach 20 ft into the required rear yard setback and will be for personal use only. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. However, a rear yard setback variance was approved for the property located at
7365 Lake Drive from 30 ft to 10 ft for 720 ft shed and a rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 15 ft for uh a 1,800 ft detached garage at 7261 Lake
Drive. And this concludes my presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions for staff. I guess you want to see that. Madam clerk, oh, you're someone's reading my mind. Can we see an aerial of this, please? Yes. Just because the Okay, good. So, it's still vacant to the east there. That was going to be my question.
Perfect. Uh, no questions for staff. Another one. Is the applicant here? Ma'am, is there anything you'd like to add on to what staff had said? All right. Is there anyone in the audience to support this application? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to in opposition to this
matter? Seeing none, gentlemen, move to approve, Mr. Mr. Chair. Motion to approve from Mr. Beley. Any second? Second. Second from Mr. Levant first. There. All those in favor? I opposed. All right.
Enjoy. Number five. We're boogieing at the before the moment. We are every time. So, order pizza now. Stop. All right. Number five. I believe after discussion at the dasis. Oh, that's right. That's right. We Thank you. I've I've got a note right in front
of me here. Uh gentlemen, the applicant cannot make it. The chair would entertain a motion to continue to a date certain. Move to approve. Move to go ahead and move. Yeah. Move to move until the uh to a date certain uh till Yeah. I mean, I understand the
circumstances. So, yeah, we eventually got to a motion from Mr. Beley. Do we have a second? I got a second. Second, Mr. Chair. Uh, all those in favor? I oppose. All right, we'll we'll come back to this. Uh, wait, we didn't determine the date. Certain next meeting. Yeah, I was going to say the next meeting. Yeah,
the believe that's June 23rd. So, yeah, the let's amend the motion to include the the the June meeting. Move to move to move to the uh June 23rd meeting uh for agreed by acclamation. So amended. All those in
favor? Opposed. All right. Number six. Thank you, Robert. Good evening. Megan Zenorski, project coordinator for planning. This variance request is for 2581 Bird Avenue, which is located in the R1 zoning district within the platted subdivision of
Stevens Addition to Midway. The applicant is seeking one a front yard setback from 25 feet to 4 feet for a fence and two a double um and two double driveway gates and two a height variance
from 6 and 1/2 ft to 7 ft for two double architectural driveway gates. The proposed fence is 6 feet tall open picket aluminum with at least 50% open space with two compliment complimentary double architectural driveway gates
which will match the fence height and then curve to a peak height of 7 ft above grade at maximum height. The proposed fence is 4 and 1/2 ft from the sidewalk and 18 ft from the edge of pavement. The proposed five privacy fence is four and one oh I already said
that. I apologize. Traffic engineering has no objection to the placement of the fence or gates as it relates to site visibility. That concludes my presentation. I'm available for additional questions. Thank you, madam gentlemen. Questions for staff? Seeing none, is our applicant here? Yes.
Anything you'd like to add, sir, to what staff said? No, sir. All right. Uh, anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, we'll close the floor. Gentlemen, your your preference.
Move to approve. Second. Move to approve in the vice chair. Second from Mr. Beley. All those in favor? I opposed. All right, there's one down. Next one, please. This variance is request for 2591 Bird Avenue. This fence
line will run um in line with the previous variance request. This variance is located in the R1 zoning district in the Platted Stevens edition to Midway subdivision. The applicant is seeking a front yard setback variance from 25 ft to 4 feet for fence and driveway gates.
The subject property is a corner lot and as such is considered to have two front yards for setback purposes. The front of the house faces Bird which is where the variance is being sought and Graanby Street side does not require a variance. The proposed 6 ft tall chain link fence is 11 ft from the edge of sidewalk and
18 ft from the edge of pavement and traffic engineering has no objection to the placement of the fence as it relates to site visibility. The subject property has had no prior variances. That concludes my presentation and I am available for additional questions. In my packet I didn't get for this property
the variance criteria questionnaire. Is it just because they're neighbors? The applicant used one for both of them or did y'all get the questionnaire for this one? It's not a big deal. But I did not, Mr. Chair. All right. Oh, wait. Yes, I did. All right. It's just mine then. That's fine. I'm not
going to worry about it then. It's 133. All right. Do y'all have any questions for staff? Seeing none. Um I have I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I do have a question. Yes, sir. Go ahead. Sorry. Trying to get back to the picture.
Scroll, scroll, scroll. Um, so there's three gates. One off of uh this this is for staff. Yes. Okay. Graanby Street. Mhm. Um, is there is there any concerns about
the fact that it's not um the primary access point that it's secondary to the the sidelot? There is not. There's a drainage ditch that there's a swale on that side. Um, and I did speak to um our development review engineering team and
because of that drainage ditch and speaking with the applicant um it's going to be used for access for um mowing and that kind of inceptic maintenance, not necessarily for access since they have the double gates on the front. It's more for a maintenance
access point. Um because they can't get through the side. Okay. Easily. That that's fine. Thank you. Mhm. Good question. Any any other questions for staff, sir? Is this one yours, too? It is.
Anything you'd like to add on this one? No, sir. I Well, I will say Well, if you do, I'm sorry. We have to ask you. I'm I'm sorry. No problem. If you just please share with us your your name and address. My name is Timothy D. Hudson, Senior.
I was born in this building here in 1961 and uh raised in Midway at 2591 on that corner. My mom and dad lived there for 65 years and u we were able to build a next door here for them because
my grandmother owned all of this property and some of the property here. So they lived here for 65 years, raised us there. I I'm a general contractor and I built this house I think in 2003 right before he died August 17th.
He wasn't able to get in the new house, but my mom is there enjoying herself. So, I need to put gates up to en to ensure that those kids when they walking on the sidewalks, they always cut through the yard and run. And we don't
want them to get injured cuz if they fall by cutting through my mother's who's who's 82, cutting through her property, going to sue us. So, that's why I need gates there to secure her and 2581. So we on
2591 and 2581. So we just want to put the gates up there to keep the traffic out on the sidewalk so that she can enjoy her latter years. And and and you're a good son. You're to be praised now. And I
apologize for being picky. We're on we're on 91. The the one that where you grew up. Yeah. Uh and that's the one we're talking about now. The the other one where your mama is that that's been approved. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Any anything particular to to this parcel that we need to chat about? The
only thing we want to do, it's a 55. I'm I'm 64. So, help me with my my degree is in public administration, not math. So, I'm 64 and that was I was that's a that fence is 55 years old. All of this here
is 55 years old. So, I think I was about six or seven when my daddy put it up. and it's it's all dilapidated. And I start I told my mom, "Hey, look, if it is a problem, I'll just paint it black, but we need to take it off and put new
rod to put new chain link fence up there to make it look right." So, that's what we want to do. Put new It's already there. It's a chain length fence there, but we're going to take that down and I have some of the uh people in the community, I'll give it to them, roll it up, haul it away so they can go weigh it
off and get monies for it or whatever. You know what I mean? But all aluminum. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's money for the community to help people out. You know, you guys cuz you got to deal with the people in the what they call them the people in um grassroots. You got to still deal with them. But I'm going to take all of that fence there and give it
to them and I'm going to put new fence around 2591. Gotcha. Gotcha. If you guys approve us, but that fence that's there now, it's beenif and you got to have some type of boundary security. And my mom is 82, be
83 in November. So I want her to be comfortable and when she sleeps at night, want to rest in peace. I understand that. Yeah. Gentlemen, y'all have any questions for Mr. Hudson? Thank you, sir. Thank you very much.
Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Anyone here to speak in opposition? Gentlemen, I move to approve, Mr. Chair. All right. Mr. Bigley has moved to approve. Do we have a second? Second. A second from Mr. Leavant. All those in
favor? I opposed. All right. Best of luck with it, sir. Thank you very much. What's next? Whose turn is it now? For for Francis Drive. Yes. Thank you. Mary Robinson for
the record. Um, this is for a variance for 230 Francis Drive in Alzmont Springs. It's a request for fence height variance from 6 1/2 ft to 8 ft in the R1A single family zoning district. The subject property is in unincorporated
Simol County and adjacent to the city limits of Alamont Springs. The proposed privacy fence is going to be 8t tall and 200 feet in length. The land development code limits residential fences to 6 and 1/2 ft on
the side and rear and 4 feet in the front yard. The um property does not have any prior variances and that concludes my presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentleman questions. Yeah, Mary, quick question for you. Um and this
might be for the owner. Um we have not heard anything back from neighbors on this. Dare I ask? Because I read the criteria questionnaire. Have you heard anything? I have not. No, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Is the applicant here? Ma'am, is there anything you'd like to
share other than what staff has said? I have something. I'm sorry. I'm going to be back. We do have a question. If you could come on down, please. Who? Choose choose between the two of you. Take your time. Thank you. I'm sorry, but if you could please share
with us your name and address. We don't speak good English, but we tried our our best. We have translators. All right. Yes. Yes. If you just give me your name and address, please, sir. I'm sorry. Your name and address, please.
That's my name is Victor Rivera, but that's under her name, Maria F. Vargas. All right. And and your address? 230 Francis Drive, Altomon Supreme. Thank you. Your question, sir? So, I I read the questionnaire and it looked like it
was more of a law enforcement issue than it was a We We have to find out why. Right. When we when we do questions, of course, with the board, we have to find out why is this a hardship? How does this come on a hardship with you? Like, oh, I bought the land and I knew the fence was
there. The the fence um didn't have a permit before. I bought into the problem with this. This is something a little bit different. This is looks like two neighbors that are not getting along right now. And that's fine. That's not the board's business.
But I'm I'm having a hard time finding the hardship other than this is a neighborhood a neighbor squall and and just trying to stay true to what Semino County code is and why we are up here. I'm having a hard time getting to that point. I was just hoping you could other
than the 8 foot is that what it is is just because it's a neighbor and I don't want to get into the issues, but is that what this is? Is just a neighborhood squall of they're coming on your property whatever whatever I read what you said. Is that what this is that? Yeah, that's that's part of the issue
that you know the neighbors, but uh also that's what we want for the privacy too because we have a poor area like real close to and sometimes those neighbors watching our daughters when
they are in the pool. We want to, you know, prevent that. in the neighbor right behind us. They have eight foot tall fence, too. And I I'll ask staff about that next.
Um, thank you for bringing that up. It's just like I said, it's I trying to stay true to what the code is. It seems like this is a law enforcement issue with either someone looking into your privacy or whether it's a neighborhood battle or
whatever, a neighbor battle. But, um, okay. I was just trying to find out what the reason was, but thank you very much. Thank you. Real quick, gentlemen, any other questions? All right. Thank you. U while you've you want to then question for staff is that 8 foot that they were mentioning. Uh Mary, do you have any
information on uh No sir, I don't I did not find any other variances um approved in that area. Okay. Thank you, mayor. All right. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this
matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition. Seeing none, uh, on this one, we're going to close the floor. I'll ask for a motion, but then let's let's chat for a minute. I would like to. So, so to approve. Motion to approve from the vice chair. Is there a
second for conversation purposes? Second. Second from Mr. Levant. Um, Mr. Beigley, share your thoughts because I I think I think you brought up an something I hadn't thought of and hear you say a bit more. So, following code
is is demonstrating a hardship to the homeowner and a law enforcement issue and I'm not going to get into the details. Like I said, I it's not a place for this is I'm just struggling to get to that point of someone looking over a
fence or you know or they climb over our fence which was you know was mentioned in the in the criteria and the answers and it's it's for the other ones that we have denied because it's been vital or it's become others this is not getting to that it's not
rising to that point in my opinion of what the true hardship is. They they didn't buy into this. This is a neighborhood. Unfortunately, it's a neighborhood. It's a neighbor squall between two people. Unfort It's unfortunate, Mr. Chair. But just trying to follow the the code and kind of
trying to demonstrate the hardship. Well, I think you make a good point because while, you know, nothing is, you know, one matter is never a precedent for another matter when we do something. I remember last month we we were having conversations while sitting up here about well should we grant a variance to
correct a contractor error and I think we generally agreed that that didn't rise to the of of of that. So, I think I think that's a good point and and I'm happy to hear if if the other two have you guys have something you want to share. Don't want to put you on the spot, but I generally agree
um that this may not rise to the level of hardship, especially because uh staff has stated that they didn't find any other variants in the area. Um, so approving this motion may give rise to subverting the justice system of the
two potential squables between neighbors, but also bringing up possible future business if they see that this does get approved, Mr. Chair, of knowing that this is, well, I want an 8 foot because I don't get along with my neighborh. Good point. And it's setting a bad precedent in my opinion.
Anything you want to add? I'm I'm not struggling with the way the other gentlemen are. I mean, I I don't want to get in the definition of a hardship, but you know, living in an area where you're having an issue regardless of whether it's a neighbor or whether it's a dog or whether it's a you
know, I don't think it matters in my opinion. I mean, I think the um I don't see a um I don't see where this is causing unreasonable harm to anybody else by the approval of it. So, and and I do apologize as well to and I'm sorry that the homeowners are going through that. I really am. It doesn't uh but I
hope that if it if it rises to in their idea of what law enforcement needs to be involved in then I'm hoping that they can rectify that from a legal point of view. U unless there's something else you'all want to add. Let's go ahead and call the question. So what's before us
is a motion to approve it. Uh those in favor I I'm going to vote. Those opposed? Nay. No. Uh so that motion fails. Is there another motion? I move to deny. A motion to deny. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Levant is seconded.
All those in favor? I opposed. Passes it. It the motion passes 3-1. So, uh, the the motion for the variance has not passed. Uh, you do have the option of appealing our decision to the county commission. And if that's something you choose to do either after the meeting or
you you can call them, the staff can help you with that process. All right. We wish you well. We're sorry you're going through this. Next matter. Yeah. Thank you. Um item nine is 331 Lake Mills Road is location. It's a
request for an area variance from the permitted 1,81 12 square ft to 1,800 square ft for a detached accessory structure in the R1 single family dwelling district. The subject property is located in the
revised map of Chiliota subdivision and it's a variance to section 30.7.3.1 PN1 of the semol county land development code. Uh the proposed structure is to be 12 feet in height.
And also the uh variances to accessory buildings and uses in the land development code which requires that structures accessory structures not exceed 50% of the principal building living area in terms of mass, size, and
height. The existing principal building is 2,161 square ft. The accessory structure like I said is permitted at 1,080.5. The proposed structure is 1,800 square feet approximately 720 ft larger
than what is permitted. There have no there have not been any other variances for this subject property. And that concludes my presentation and I'll answer any questions. Gentlemen, any questions? I have one. Yes, sir. Um, so when did that code change? So, it looks
like this home was purchased in 2011. And following along, Mary, with your your logic there, what you were saying was no more than 50% for the requirement uh for the primary dwelling. Am I so far, am I tracking correctly? Yes, the living area, not the gross square footage. Did something change between
2011 and now in 201? Yes. Our land development code changed last year, which is now causing this to come for us. Yes. And we're seeing more and more of these tracking. Thank you, M. Robinson. Is this in the rural area? Yes. Okay. Thought so in the community.
I live there. You live there? Any other questions for staff, gentlemen? Is the applicant here? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Anything you'd like to add to what staff had said? If you don't mind, please just share with us your name and address. Sure. Matt Perkins, 331 Lake Mills Road. Um,
so I just wanted to point out that uh in 2022, a few years ago, we did some renovations to the house. When I bought it in 2011, it was 1,000 square feet, 07, so it's a little over 2100 now. Um, and the existing shop, our shed was or is I think just under 1,200 square f
feet or so. Um, so at the time it caught my eye as far as like to buy it because the shop was bigger than the house, which is as a car guy, I thought that was cool. That's what I wanted. Um, but in the recent history, 2022, we uh made it larger and we updated the house, renovated it, made it look good. Uh the
shop um is from that original build date of 1978. So almost 50 years old. I've put a lot of work into maintenance. Uh but again, it's a 50-y old metal building. Starting to look a little dilapidated. Um so what the plan is is to update it to make it look like the house. Same color scheme, make it look
better. Um and then the two I don't want to say junk cars, project cars behind the shop, uh that added length is where they'll go, um to get out of my wife's eye, so we can park those inside. Um, so really it's just lengthening it to get those cars inside and making it match
the house. But there was thing one thing I wanted to add and Mary what you'd said is um the current structure is 12 ft. Uh the proposed structure is 17 with the house being 18 ft. It doesn't exceed it. I just wanted to clarify that the new one's going to be taller and I think I put that in the package. Yeah. And
that's fine. Okay. Okay. Just making sure. I don't want you think of building another 12ft building. It's getting taller but not exceeding the home. Appreciate that. Anything else? That's it. Gentlemen, any questions for the applicant? All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Anyone in the audience to speak in
support of this matter? Anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, your pleasure. Motion to approve. A motion to approve from the vice chair. Is there a second? Second. Second from Mr. Levant. All
those in favor? I opposed. All right. Good luck. I do that every month. Knock this this off. What do we have for number 10 here? Number 10 is a request for a rear yard
setback variance from 30 ft to 20 ft for a single family residence in the R1 single family zoning district is lot 21 Hawkins Avenue located in the Lockhart subdivision. The applicant is proposing to construct an 1,800 square f foot
three-bedroom, two- bath single family dwelling. The dwelling will encroach 10 ft into the 30ft rear yard setback. Like I said, the property is zoned R1 and that zoning district does require a minimum lot area of 8,400 square ft and
a lot width of 70. This lot is non-conforming to those requirements as it is 51 ft by 100 51 square feet. So, it is non-conforming to the zoning requirement, but it is a parcel of record and the subdivision
uh predated the subdivision regulations and like I said, it's located in the Lockhart subdivision which has been identified as a target area in the semol county comprehensive plan and the purpose is to propo propose new housing opportunities and revitalize lowincome
neighborhoods. The request for the variance to section 30.7.3.1 of the land development code that states a rear yard setback for the zoning district is 30 ft. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. That concludes my
presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions? Seeing none, is the applicant here? Is there anything you'd like to add to what staff shared, sir? All right. Do y'all have any questions for the applicant? Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this? Anyone in the
audience to speak in opposition? Yes, ma'am. Please come on down. Oh, I'm sorry. You said I'm on lot 22. I'm sorry. Not a problem. Not a problem. All right. Uh, anyone else? Second chance. Anyone else
in the audience in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, move to approve. Move to approve from Mr. Beley. We have a second from the vice chair. All those in favor? Opposed? It passes.
Now for some deja vu. Yes. This is lot 22 of Hawkins Avenue. It's a request for a rear rear yard setback from 30 ft to 20 ft for a single family residence in the R1 zoning district. The subject property again is located in the
Lockhart subdivision. The applicant is also proposing to construct an 1,800 square f foot three-bedroom, two bath single family dwelling. The proposed dwelling will encroach 10 ft into the 30ft rear yard setback. And like I said in the previous case, this uh lot size
is 51 by 100 5100 square ft and is non-conforming to the minimum R1 area and width requirements. As I said, the subject property is parcel of record. It's located in the Lockhart subdivision target area which the Seol County
comprehensive plan directs um target areas to allow for new housing opportunities and revitalization of neighborhoods. The request for var is for variance of 30.7.3.1 of the land development code which states a rear yard setback for the
zoning district is 30 ft. There have been no prior variances granted on the subject property and this concludes my presentation. Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions for staff? Seeing none, uh, anything you'd like to add, sir?
I would like to hear reserve the right to a rebuttal. I got you. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Yes, ma'am. Now we go.
And when you come on down, if you'd please, when you get to the podium, give us your name and address. Sure. Good evening, everyone. My name is Johnny May Singleton, and I reside at 2850 West 22nd Street, Samford. And I am
not in agreement with my yard getting smaller for anything. That's just the way I feel about it. Now, in the years past, there was a house already there. So, they didn't need my property then, so why
should my property be shortened now? Well, now I'm I'm I may be confused. It wouldn't be the first time. I don't you you don't own this piece of property that we're talking about now, do you? You're Are you just a neighbor? I guess I guess I don't I
don't understand. My property is I was sent a letter. Okay. I'm sorry. My name is Ernest Singleton. It's my mom. Yes, sir. The way she understood it was that she would lose part of her property for another for something else to get built.
If I'm That's the way she explained it to me. Sure. And that's that's not happening. No, St. Yeah. Staff can correct me if I'm on there. This is This is just within the four corners of of the piece of property that we're talking about. this this won't affect your property one bit.
Good work. And and and here's the thing. And if you find out that's different, you you come chat with these ladies because they're going to want to hear. Sure. But but yeah, this is this lot. A reduction of the required set. It's still on the same lot. Yeah. It's not not on your lot. It's on this property's
lot, not on yours. You're not losing anything that that work. But I'm but I'm glad you came down cuz now we know for sure. All right. Yes, ma'am. Anyone else in the audience wanting to speak in opposition to the application?
Seeing none, gentlemen, your pleasure. Move to approve. Second. We have a motion to approve and a second. All those in favor? I. Opposed. All right. And number 12. Thank you, Mary Robinson. For the record, this is lot 10 on Strickland
Avenue. As before, a vacant lot, a request, there's three for a variance to a rear yard setback from 30 ft to 20 ft. Number two is a sideyard setback on the north side from 7 and 1/2 ft to 7 feet.
Number three is a south sideyard setback from 7 feet and a halft to 7 feet in the R1 single family dwelling district. And again, this subject is property is in the Lockhart subdivision. The request again is to construct an 18,800 square
foot three-bedroom, two- bath home. The as stated, the proposed dwelling will encroach 10 ft into the 30-foot rear yard setback and a half a foot into the north and south sideyard setback. Uh again, the minimum zoning uh
area lot area for this zoning district is 8,400 square ft. This lot is 50 by 100 which is 5,000 square feet. So is non-conforming with regard to the minimum lot area and width requirements with R1 zoning district. It is a parcel
of record located within the Lockhart subdivision target area which is designated by the seminal county comp plan to promote new ho housing opportunities. The request for variance to section 30.7.3.1 of the semol county land development code states that the rear
yard setback for this district is 30 ft and the sideyard setbacks are 7 and a half. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you. Madam gentleman questions for staff. And sir, are you the applicant
for this one also? Yes, sir. Anything you'd like to share? Uh this time. All right. Thank you. Uh, anyone else in the audience, let me take a step back. Anyone in the audience wanting to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in
opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, move to approve. Mr. Levan has moved to approve. Do we have a second? Second from the vice chair. All those in favor? I opposed. All right. We talk about infill being a good thing. I think we got that. Good luck with the project,
sir. All right. We have continued item number one. And has that person shown up? The applicant for Oak Lake Trail here? Oh, okay. We'll get to you in a moment, but just want to make sure you're here. Uh, she's all right at
everything, though. She's We've gone through it. Do we need to go through it again as we're reconsidering? Um, no. I I don't think staff we need to make staff go through that again. Yeah. Y'all y'all feel like this is in your memory? You're on top of it. Okay. All
right, sir. So, uh, the staff had previously read into the record the facts pertaining to this. Is there anything about it you'd like to Well, come on down. Share with us your thoughts. We might have some questions. [Applause] And I did. So, I do too. Well, if you
share with us, please your your name and address, sir. Yeah. My name is Jonathan Moscera. Uh, I'm in representation of Deborah White. Uh the address is 5729 Oak Lake Trail, Ovido, Florida 32765. Uh she's looking for a fence 8t
tall um on the backyard of of her property. Uh when she bought the property, um the property had a 12t fence and the last hurricane destroyed the fence. So she just want to replace
the fence. uh the neighbors has have 8 foot tall so she want to go with the same tall as them. Uh so she considered like she considered um that this is not uh a a uh privilege
like a extra privilege is just go back as what she was before the hurricane. Yep. Gotcha. And and I apologize sir you you might have said this when you started and I just missed it. Are you are you a contractor or I work for the
first fence company that is uh doing this job and she asked me to come uh to explain this. Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry I missed that. Mr. Beigley, first of all, from a contractor point of view, thank you for being here. I wish a lot of people would, you know, kind of don't I'm glad you represent that way and I appreciate you get make
sure the facts get out there. Um it's kind of the same thing that I had before was talking about Yeah. the 12T, 8T, etc. Uh, I'm going to get to that staff question next. So, it's coming to Angie next. Um, that 12 foot to see if it's been was that approved and and we'll
take that up with staff. But 8T 12T's really high. 8 ft's really high. Um, is there an elevation change on the property of is this house that's behind them on an elevation plat where it's actually tilt where it's higher? No. If
they install six feet, the neighbor's fence will be eight and she will be six. Okay. And where's the hardship with that? Uh it's supposed to be the same kind of fence. Why? And there's no no uh
specific reason. Uh they just want to to have the same as they used to have before the hurricane and and they want to match the houses to have a good look. So in tune to what I had said with the previous
Oh, I'm sorry. It's something that we have to hear. You know, a hardship. No, there's no no. Thank you, sir. Uhhuh. Any other questions? Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this
matter? Anyone to speak in opposition to this matter? Seeing none, is there a motion? Uh, I had a question for staff about that 12 foot, please. Um kind of redundant right now, but the 12 foot. Is there anything? Hi, Angie. Is there anything that is uh was on the record you can find for a 12oot fence in that?
You know, it's it's the hedge. It was just the hedge a hedge that Well, there's a fence there. There's no doubt. But the 12T is coming from the rest of it as a hedge. There's a picture in here. And the previous fence that was approved, yes, was um on the site plan.
It was for a six-foot wood fence and it did not include the rear did not it did not include the rear and the surveyor shows a sixoot fence in the rear. Just h okay that's another day. That would have been good to have in the in
the application. Yes, probably. Gotcha. Does that lead to a motion? I move to deny. We have a motion to deny. Is there a second? Second. A second from Mr. Levant. All those in favor? I opposed. As I told the other people, this this one has been denied. Should
your client, you can pass on to her if she'd like to appeal to the county commission staff can help with that. Just call in call into the uh the county planning department and they'll help. Uh moving on, gentlemen, I think, correct me if I'm wrong. The last thing we have are the minutes. Excuse me, sir.
We have the one item, the um pastor loop that was legally advertised but not on the agenda. She just sent it out to your email, Mr. Chair. Right. I got it. Let me real quick here. It's not going to be, but I'm gonna get
to it. Well, gentlemen, have you all had a chance to read this? Uh, no. Is the applicant aware of what we're talking about? Yeah. We just It wasn't in our packet, so we're we just kind of want to get up to speed. Would would you mind terly giving us just a minute or two? Sure. Like, for example,
I'm not seeing it in mine. I haven't got an email yet. Are you on your Mac? No, there it is. I got it. I was gonna say I air drop it too. Do not do not criticize the cult. Okay. Just trying to support the plan. Does it do any of y'all need and and no
hard feelings if you if you do any of y'all need additional time to review this? There's no need to be rushed. We're pulling up the last month's PowerPoint that has the uh item in it. Good. It looks like one of these peculiar land
um development. Mr. Sure. That's an interesting Yeah. shaped thing. It is. Should we tell Mr. Ruiz about our standard, you know, rules that we get to come use the pool, too? Okay,
everyone ready? Yes. All right, now let's do it. This item is 1814 pastor loop and this is a request for a rear yard setback from 7 1/2 ft to 3 ft for a pool in the planned development subdivision which is known as Bristol Park subdivision. This pool will be 11
by 30 feet. They have received a letter of support from the immediate labor to the south and also for the board's consideration. Um behind the property is a retention pond and beyond that is a conservation easement. Um there have been no prior variances for this
property and this concludes my presentation. Thank you ma'am. Gentlemen questions for staff. Yeah, the the overall the the drawing that we got here for the overall construction plans, Kathy, our square property land
is not um square in a circle hole or was this something different that I'm just not reading into because that kind of it's an artist's rendering. It it seems to be capturing just where the actual restor loop but the tax assessors
maps and the support and all that kind of stuff is for Orange Avenue. Orange a some Yeah. Um if we can can you pull up the site plan on the PowerPoint? We don't have it on the PowerPoint. This is all okay. Or perhaps we could put it up on the
screen and the applicant can point. Jay's going to help you out. It's the answer woman. hardest working seminal county staff right here. You want to start something? You started this. I told you you cursed
it. What we have is a traditional rectangle platted lot, right? Can we see the map of where it's located though? Mhm. Because I think what's what was emailed to us is incorrect. I think Mr. Beigley's point is spot on.
Yeah, because yeah, you know, if we scroll down there to the packet. Yeah. What's Yeah, the map in there was just I don't that's that's on the moon from this. Are you seeing this part? You can scroll down to that. Yeah. If you go down to
the property record, you go down further property record then yeah, something's not It was just a letter of support, you know, graphic. I think Miss Hamilton said it was the southerntherly neighbor. Yes, it's the 1810, which is the immediate neighbor to
the south. We received a letter of support. Okay. And located support. We got to call you up first. Can I call up? Yeah. Just a few more minutes of your patience. Sorry, there's just a process
we have to follow. There we go. Any other questions for staff then? I don't know what she's talking about. Are you squared away now? Yeah, we're good. Mr. Ruiz. Yes. Now is your chance to come share for your thoughts. If just real quick for the record, give
us your name and address, please. Anthony Ruiz, 1814 pasture loop. So I do have uh as was mentioned two adjacent neighbors, one to the south, one to the north. I did prior to the application get the south. I saw I spoke to them
prior to submitting the application. I did go speak to the northern neighbors and got a letter of support as well. Good. If you could give it to the clerk, please. Perfect. And it's just a just to to clarify square pool. It's uh you know,
our lots a rectangle square rectangle uh pool will also be a rectangle fitting you know in the back. Gotcha. Gentlemen, questions for Mr. Ruiz. Is it just because of the unique condition is kind of what set it because
of the I noticed the lot is a little wonky with the Is it once again kind of going down that hardship route again? When you say wonky with the lot, what are you referring to? Well, when you bought it in with the setback, were you just not aware of what the setback was? Yeah, so the everything was, you know,
it's a plan development and so everything the structural permits, everything was already uh established. So I didn't have the ability to go in and make any changes. Okay. Uh so they they picked the elevation which I guess influenced the front setback. Okay. Um
so it pushed it further back on the lot and so yeah so we couldn't make any changes to to accommodate that. Thank you. Any other questions gentlemen? Yes sir. Please go ahead. Well I was can also say I know uh so other neighbors. So, back to the adjacent neighbors, two
neighbors, uh, house, two two neighbors away, I guess, two houses away, um, also I don't know if I don't think this was mentioned, but had also applied for variances as well, and they were approved similar variances. They had the same floor plan. Um they did a variance
request for a uh for the cage from to go from 5T to 2 feet and they had a pool variance request from 7 and 1 half to 5t and so I was trying to be reasonable um you know keep in mind safety being able to walk
on the back and so that's why I'm not doing any cage and it's just going to be three feet off of that back property line. So, I just wanted to also uh include that in there. Okay, gentlemen. Any other questions? Thank you, sir. Yeah, M. Robinson, if I've asked you a
question based on something Mr. Ree has shared. Um, and I I may be catching you flat-footed on this, so I apologize. Behind him, that tract H, do we know who owns that? It's a subdivision. It's the retention pond for the subdivision. Oh, okay. That that whole that whole track H
is wet. Yes. Oh, wow. Okay. Thank And I think she said there was a conservation easement even further beyond that. That's a correct I I guess. So there was not developed property or won't be developed with homes. Gotcha. Uh very good. Thank you. Anyone in the audience
to speak in support of this matter? Anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Gentlemen, motion to approve. Second. Motion to approve. We have a second. All those in favor? I opposed. Enjoy your pool, sir. We'll
drop by when it's finished. Please do. All right. Now, that does leave the minutes. Chair will entertain a motion. Move to approve. A motion to approve. We have a second. We have a second from the vice chair. Those in favor? I opposed. All
right. Move to adjurnn. So, moved. All right. We are adjourned. Thank you all very much. Whatever was in there Hello. Heat.