WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=EmtnyJADSjo Part: 1 1 00:01:23.440 --> 00:01:40.720 Good evening. Welcome to the June edition of the Seminole County Board of Adjustment. For those in the audience who have not attended one of our meetings before, uh allow me a few minutes here, please, to share with you all our procedures. Staff will introduce each item as we move down the agenda. 2 00:01:40.720 --> 00:01:57.160 If there's an item that you'd like to speak on and you are not the applicant, we ask that you please fill out one of the forms that's out in the lobby, uh and indicate whether you are for or against the item. The applicant and the applicant's supporters will be heard first. Those in opposition will be heard next, and if 3 00:01:57.160 --> 00:02:14.040 situation calls for it, there might be a rebuttal. We ask that comments be limited to just what's before us tonight. We don't get into neighborhood disputes. We don't get into homeowner disputes, and we certainly ask that everybody be polite and treat each other as you would like to be treated. 4 00:02:14.040 --> 00:02:31.240 Uh if you're an individual, you'll have 3 minutes to speak. If you represent a group, you'll have 6 minutes. Uh speakers should identify themselves clearly for the record by stating their name and address. Uh don't be surprised if we ask questions of you uh or or of staff or 5 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:47.640 even of each other. Any information that you share will be kept as part of the record, and if you brought anything that is digital, it can be shown on our screens here, and we do ask that after the meeting, you share a copy of that with staff. Uh once we have heard everything, I'll 6 00:02:47.640 --> 00:03:03.600 close the floor, and we'll have a discussion amongst ourselves. I will ask for a motion, and the board will vote on it. Uh any person who is aggrieved by any decision of this board uh can appeal that to the Board of County Commissioners. You have 15 days to do 7 00:03:03.600 --> 00:03:19.440 that, and after the meeting, staff can help you with that process if that's something you would like to do. So, having said that, item number one, please. >> Item number one is an appeal of the planning manager's Item number one, Kathy Hamel, Development Services. Item number one is 8 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:35.200 an appeal of the planning manager's decision. Um due to a conflict, the applicant is requesting for the Board of Adjustment to continue the item till our July meeting. >> Is anyone here representing the applicant? All right. Uh it is up to our 9 00:03:35.200 --> 00:03:51.040 discretion. We don't have to grant an an extension if we or continuance if we don't want to, but is there a motion? >> To continue to the July meeting. >> We have uh a motion to continue. Is there a second? >> Second it, sir. >> We have a second to continue to the July 10 00:03:51.040 --> 00:04:09.440 meeting. Those in favor, say "Aye." >> Aye. >> Opposed? All right, that's it. Number two, please. >> Good evening. Carmen Rodriguez, Department of Planning and Development. Item number two is a continuance of variance request for 818 Trevor Circle. 11 00:04:09.440 --> 00:04:26.320 This subject property is located in the Crossings Unit Two Serval Lakes East Subdivision and it's within the Greenwood Lakes Crossing Planned Development. The request is for a rear yard setback variance from 15 ft to 5 ft for a screen 12 00:04:26.320 --> 00:04:43.320 room and the PD Planned Development District. The proposed screen room to be constructed will be 21 ft by 15 ft. The request is for a variance to Section C of the Greenwood Lakes Planned Unit Development, which states that patios 13 00:04:43.320 --> 00:05:02.919 have a rear yard setback of 15 ft. The applicant applied for the proper building permit number 260002150. And at that time it was determined that the setback variance will be required. There have not been any prior variances for this subject property. This 14 00:05:02.919 --> 00:05:18.640 concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? So, you know this. Is the applicant here? >> Yes. >> Um but I Who Applicant and applicant's contractor? >> Yes. >> Would either of you like to share anything with us? You don't have to. >> Sure. 15 00:05:18.640 --> 00:05:35.360 >> All right, come on down, please. He's not a stranger, right? >> No. >> All right, good. Just some guy. If you're sure of this, your name and address, please. >> My name is Daniel Queeny. My address is 1443 Wheeler Road, Apopka, Florida. >> All right, yes, sir. 16 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:51.080 >> Yeah, we we would uh like to get a variance for this property to be able to build a screen room in the back. Uh currently, I think the setback is 15 and we're asking for like 10 ft uh to build into that. And uh there's an 17 00:05:51.080 --> 00:06:08.480 existing pool enclosure there now. Looking at the the picture. And we just want to remove part of it and put a a solid roof in that space for about 15 ft by 21 ft. Um the the the 18 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:25.840 lot in the back is an odd shape. If you look at it, it does have a it goes to a point in the back. We almost meet the setback there. But um we would just ask the board if they would consider uh letting us build this in this space. >> Got you. Thank you, sir. Any questions 19 00:06:25.840 --> 00:06:42.760 for the applicant's representative? >> Mr. Chair. >> Yes, sir. >> Um staying within the same footprint as the the current screened area. >> Yes. >> And just putting a a roof over the top. >> Yes, it's that there's a pool enclosure over the whole deck now. We just want to 20 00:06:42.760 --> 00:06:58.160 take off like two panels and stay right in the exact same area. >> Um sides are still screened or >> Yes, they'll still be screened. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. We would just modify what's there. >> Any other questions? 21 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:19.080 Do you know if if um if if you all have if you or your client have spoken with the neighbors? To share their to ask them their thoughts about it? >> I believe they sent letters out. >> I I I see I see you you've got a scoot Usually we have folks come on down. Um 22 00:07:19.080 --> 00:07:36.760 can you can you walk Okay. I saw a scooter there. I wanted to make sure you could walk over. For the record and for the folks on TV, if you could just real quick share with us your your name and address. >> It's uh Carlos Rodriguez. It's uh A1A Schrivers Circle, Lake Mary. And yes, my 23 00:07:36.760 --> 00:07:53.360 neighbors received letters uh about the variance meeting. And uh I spoke to them and explained to them what we wanted to do. And they have no objections to it, so. >> Got you. Thank you, sir. >> Mhm. >> Any other questions? 24 00:07:53.360 --> 00:08:08.560 All right, thank you. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, what is your pleasure? >> Move to approve. >> A motion to approve from Mr. Lavon, is there a second? >> I'll second that. 25 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:24.280 >> Second from Ms. Catherine, those in favor? >> Aye. >> Opposed? All right, enjoy. >> Thank you. >> Number three. >> Item number three is a variance request for 7310 Lake Drive. The subject property is located in the Lake Sylvan 26 00:08:24.280 --> 00:08:41.440 Estate subdivision. The request is for one, a west side yard setback variance from 7 and 1/2 ft to 3 ft, and two, a rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 7 ft for a metal carport in the R-1 A single-family 27 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:59.320 dwelling district. The proposed metal carport to be constructed will be 14 ft by 45 ft. Letters of support have been received from the adjacent neighbors. There have not been any prior variances for this subject property. This 28 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:20.520 concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Seeing none, is the applicant here? Is there anything you'd like to add? Yeah, come on down, please. If you'd share with us your name and address, please. >> Hello, I'm Jesse Hodnett, 7310 Lake Drive, Sanford, Florida. 29 00:09:20.520 --> 00:09:37.080 Um applying for a variance for a carport. Um I got letters of support from all my neighbors, except for the one to the north, cuz there's a language barrier. Otherwise, I would have. Um yeah, just a carport, putting gutters on it, so none of the storm water coming off off roof goes into in yard, cuz it's 30 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:53.720 kind of close. Um I have more feet on the east side of my property, but unfortunately, there's a utility easement and power lines and telephone lines. So, I'm kind of stuck to do it on the west side. That's all I've got. >> Got you. Thank you, sir. Any questions for the applicant? 31 00:09:53.720 --> 00:10:09.200 Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone here to speak in opposition? Seeing none. What's the board's pleasure? >> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve Mr. Evans. Is there a second? >> I second that. >> Second from Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> Aye. 32 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:25.880 >> Aye. >> Opposed? All right. Enjoy, sir. Number four, please. >> Item number four is a variance request for 2241 Bluefish Place. The subject property is located in the Mullett Lake Retreat Unit 2 subdivision. The request 33 00:10:25.880 --> 00:10:41.560 is for one a north a north front yard setback variance from 50 ft to 45 ft, and two a west side street setback variance from 50 ft to 35 ft for a pole barn in the A-5 rural 34 00:10:41.560 --> 00:10:57.640 zoning classification district. The existing pole barn is 40 ft by 60 ft. The applicant has applied for a building permit number 26 0003109. And at that time, it was determined that 35 00:10:57.640 --> 00:11:15.080 setback variances will be required. The property appraiser granted the subject property an agricultural classification in 2022 and 2023. During that time, the property owner constructed a small pole barn on the south side of the property and a pole 36 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:33.000 barn on the north side. The applicant no longer has an agricultural classification and is now requesting to enclose the pole barn on the north side. However, the structure doesn't meet the required setbacks. A letter of opposition was submitted 37 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:47.880 placed on the dais for your consideration. The pole The pole barn will only be used for personal use only, no commercial use or business is permitted without proper county approval. This concludes my presentation. I'm 38 00:11:47.880 --> 00:12:04.600 available for any questions. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Mr. Evans. >> So, the letter of opposition we received specifically mentions that, you know, there is no home currently existing on the property. And, you know, that they're they're asking for a bathroom. Do we Does our 39 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:19.600 code disallow, you know, those sort of residential amenities when we don't have a primary unit >> No. >> No. >> They're they're allowed to have a bathroom in it without the primary residence. >> Okay. 40 00:12:19.600 --> 00:12:35.120 Any other questions? Uh quick question for me. Uh you had mentioned the property had an egg exi- in in your your comments with Miss Harmon, uh you had shared that the property had an egg exemption from '22 41 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:50.520 to '23. Does that mean that anything done during that time is basically grandfathered in? >> If it's for agricultural use, basically, yeah. >> Got you. Thank you, ma'am. >> Mhm. >> Any other questions for staff? Is the applicant here? Would you mind coming on down? Yeah, 42 00:12:50.520 --> 00:13:13.240 there we go. If you'd please just share with us your name and address. >> Lisa Prieto. My home address is 3873 Whitewood Court in Novato. Um I'm one of the owners of 2241 Bluefish Place. So, we are looking to 43 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:29.440 actually make this into an agricultural property again. Um we've been putting up cattle fencing getting prepared for that. So, the point of us enclosing the pole barn is to store feed and equipment. And then, uh eventually, we would like to build a 44 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:45.320 house out here, but unfortunately it's not in the plans right now, so we would like to have a bathroom on site so that we can use them when we're out on the property doing agricultural activities. >> Any questions for the applicant? All right. 45 00:13:45.320 --> 00:14:01.360 Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Is there anyone here to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone here to speak in opposition? Hmm, seeing none. Uh, what is the board's pleasure? >> Motion to approve. 46 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:17.840 >> I have a motion to approve from Mr. Evans. I'm sorry, Mr. Wright. Uh, second from Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> I. >> Opposed? It passes. Enjoy. Maybe not the right word, but Number five. 47 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:33.720 >> Item number five is a variance request for 2018 West Carly's Circle. This subject property is located in the Mandarin Section 5 subdivision. Their request is for an east side yard setback variance from 20 ft to 10 ft for 48 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:51.800 a pool screen enclosure in the RC-1 Country Homes District. The proposed pool screen enclosure to be replaced will be 49 ft by 52 ft. The applicant has applied for a building permit number 260005190. 49 00:14:52.600 --> 00:15:08.560 And at that time the variance will be It was determined that the variance will be required. There have not been any prior variances for this subject property. This concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Is the applicant here? I'm sorry, before I state say I'm sorry, 50 00:15:08.560 --> 00:15:24.880 any questions for staff? >> Mr. Chair. >> Mr. Evans, Mr. Wright. >> What am I doing? I have way more hair than he does. Um just looking at the I guess the old site plan survey that was done. 51 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:40.760 Um Is this a replacement of the existing screen? >> Yes. >> And but there was no previous variance? Okay. Thank you. >> Just the land development code changed in between. >> I don't have that information. 52 00:15:40.760 --> 00:15:57.720 >> Fair enough. Any other questions for staff? Is the app- Now, is the applicant here? Yes, sir. If you share with us your name and address, please, and anything you'd like to share, then I think Mr. Wright has a question. >> I'm Joseph Fort from 1400 South Ronald 53 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:15.520 Reagan Boulevard, Longwood, Florida, 32750. >> Yes, sir. Do you Do you have anything to share or just >> wanted to be available for any questions, concerns, and thank you guys for your time this evening. >> Just to So, sir, while I may came up here, um just to confirm you're 54 00:16:15.520 --> 00:16:31.600 replacing the existing screen? >> Yes, it's on record that that was constructed back in 1984, so we're coming up 42 years ago. So, essentially, we are demolishing and bringing back the structure up to the latest Florida building code, not asking for any additional square footage, uh replacing 55 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:46.920 it exactly where it currently exists. >> Um just from my clarity from the image, is there a a wall or a fence around the perimeter of it as well as the screen enclosure? >> It sits on top of a wall, a concrete 56 00:16:46.920 --> 00:17:02.600 wall, yes, sir. So, it'd be going back exactly where it was on top of that concrete wall. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for the applicant's representative? Do you know if if if any conversation has been had with the adjacent neighbor? >> Typically, when it's a new addition or 57 00:17:02.600 --> 00:17:17.760 something that they haven't seen in the past, that's when we'll go and ask permission to see if there's any sort of issue with the structure. In this one, it's replacing what's been there and what they've been used to, so no conversation has been had with the neighbors, no, sir. >> Fair enough. Thank you, sir. Any other questions? 58 00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:32.840 Thank you, sir. Thank you very much for your time. Anyone here to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none. Anyone here to speak in opposition? Seeing none. The board's pleasure. >> Move to approve. >> Second it. >> Mr. Lovatt. Seconded by Ms. Clifford. 59 00:17:32.840 --> 00:17:49.640 Those in favor? Aye. Opposed? All right, there we go. Number six, please. >> Good evening. For the record, Angie Gates with Planning and Development. Item six is a request for a fence height variance from 4 ft to 5 ft in the PD Planned Development District in the Red 60 00:17:49.640 --> 00:18:07.000 Ember North subdivision located at 3355 Pine Ember Point. The subject property is a corner lot and considered to have two front yards for setback purposes. The front of the house faces Pine Timber Point and the Cedar Shake Court side is where the variance is being sought. 61 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:23.480 The proposed aluminum fence will be 3 in from the sidewalk and 5 ft from the edge of pavement. Traffic Engineering has no objections to the placement of the fence as it relates to site visibility. The Red Ember Homeowners Association has approved the proposed fence project and 62 00:18:23.480 --> 00:18:44.440 there have not been any prior variances for the subject property and this concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Seeing none. Is the applicant here? Second call. Is the applicant here? What is the board's pleasure? Would you all like to consider this matter or I 63 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:59.880 will entertain >> a motion to continue. >> Continue to the end of the meeting? >> We have a motion to continue from Mr. Evans. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Evans, would you please amend your motion to a date certain? >> I was asking for just continuance to the end of the meeting to re >> Oh, end of meeting. I'm sorry. I I didn't hear that. All right, so we have 64 00:18:59.880 --> 00:19:15.560 a motion to continue to the end of the meeting. Mr. Lovatt, was that your second? >> Yes. >> Those in favor? Opposed? All right, end of the meeting it is. I'll make a note here. >> Item number seven is a request for one a fence height variance from 4 ft to 6 ft within the 65 00:19:15.560 --> 00:19:32.440 front yard setback, and two, a rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 0 ft to the normal high water line, or excuse me, the normal high water elevation for a fence in the R-1 single family dwelling district in the Lake Mobile Shores B plot subdivision located at 625 66 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:49.280 Lake Mobile Drive. The proposed 6-ft privacy fence will exceed the maximum height within the front yard setback by 2 ft and will encroach 30 ft into the required rear yard setback from the normal high water elevation. The privacy fence 67 00:19:49.280 --> 00:20:05.720 will be 13 ft from the edge of pavement, and there are no sidewalks in place at this time. Traffic Engineering has no objection to the placement of the fence as it relates to site visibility. There have been no prior prior variances for the subject property, and this concludes my presentation. 68 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:29.040 >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Seeing none, is there anyone who can hear? Yes, sir. Come on down. If you chair, would you please your name and address? >> Good evening. My name is Azada >> the other one there. >> Good evening. My name is Azada Ali. 69 00:20:29.040 --> 00:20:45.680 Uh need a variance for um security reasons. Uh my neighborhood is not like a real top of the line, so I just want to secure my family. That's it. >> I got it. Any questions for the applicant? >> Um Mr. Chair, just 70 00:20:45.680 --> 00:21:01.000 >> That's all right. >> I'm not sure I'm questioning my relevance on this, but the property to the from your residence where the red dot is would be above it to the right side. Does it It appears there's a lot of boat storage out there, but no residence. 71 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:19.600 >> No, no residence. They The following lot of after that one is mine, and I'm and I'm and in talks to buy the one next to me right here. So, the two empty lots right here, one is mine, and I'm in talks to buy the other one, so those will be mine, too. >> Okay. All right. I The reason I was 72 00:21:19.600 --> 00:21:35.880 asking I I know from your justification responses that security, so I didn't know if that was a public area for but it's still private lot. >> Yes, it's still private lot. Yes. >> Thank you. Again, like I said, the relevance was my purpose, so no questions. 73 00:21:35.880 --> 00:21:52.240 Thank you. >> Any other questions for the applicant? Thank you, sir. Is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none. The board's pleasure. 74 00:21:53.120 --> 00:22:07.720 >> Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve from Mr. Wright. We have a second from Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> I. >> Opposed? All right. Enjoy, sir. >> Thank you. >> Mhm. Number eight, please. >> Okay, item number eight um is going to be a little confusing, so I'm going to 75 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:23.680 go ahead and explain that. Uh I The first and second variance have been withdrawn by staff because it is a legal parcel of record and met the minimum lot size requirements prior to and was a legal parcel of record prior to September 11th, 1991. 76 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:41.400 And which is part of our comprehensive plan 70 or 91. >> It's 91. >> And the only variance for this lot that we will be hearing tonight is the setback variance, so I'll proceed with that. 77 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:58.120 Um parcel 37A um vacant parcel for Snow Hill Road is requesting a front yard setback variance from 50 ft to 40 ft for a single-family dwelling in the A-5 rural district. The subject property is a legal parcel of 78 00:22:58.120 --> 00:23:13.880 record that was created prior to the Seminole County subdivision regular regulations being adopted on July 28th, 1970 and prior to the A-5 rural zoning classification being adopted on September 11th, 1991. The proposed single-family dwelling will 79 00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:31.600 be approximately 2,400 square feet and will encroach 10 feet into the required front yard setback. There um was opposition that was submitted prior to the meeting um that was placed on the dais by the clerk. The hopefully you had a chance to 80 00:23:31.600 --> 00:23:53.520 review. And there have been no prior variances for the subject property and this concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Yes, Mr. Chair. >> Mr. Wrighton, um looking at some of the documentation that was provided 81 00:23:53.520 --> 00:24:09.640 on our dais up here. One of the seems that are recurring themes has been access easements. Um there is a based on the site plan, there's a 82 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:28.880 driveway that appears to go from Snowhill Road, cuts through the again, I don't know north on this northeast corner of uh of the the site. But the easements, I mean I one of the respondents had provided some easement documentation. 83 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:45.000 >> To this point, we don't have any easements that have been granted to this specific 378. >> Not that I have seen for that parcel and the applicant is trying to work with the surrounding neighbors that cut 84 00:24:45.000 --> 00:25:01.560 through that lot. Um but at this time that's handled at building permitting. >> Okay. I I guess I'm just quite you know, without trying to marry the two of them up. >> No, correct. >> Whether or not any of the documentation that was provided to us in the 85 00:25:01.560 --> 00:25:17.560 additional supplement applies to this property. >> No. >> Okay, thank you. >> Any other questions for staff? Question for county attorney's office. Mr. McQueen, I'm >> Yes, sir. >> catching you flat-footed. I haven't mentioned this to you before and I apologize, but 86 00:25:17.560 --> 00:25:33.680 am I correct in my presumption that if there are issues of easements out there, that's more of a civil matter between the owners and the beneficiaries of that easement and not something for us to consider from a land use perspective? >> It's It's not something that this board 87 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:51.320 is intended to consider per our code. Um all that you're are um qualified for lack of a better term to consider is the variance criteria in the land development code. So, anything speaking to easements or access, that's that's not for your consideration. 88 00:25:51.320 --> 00:26:06.720 Um the opposition that's in front of us uh this evening, uh I can't speak to any of the documents that were provided or referenced in this email. This is the first time I'm seeing this, but notwithstanding your the the object of this board is not to 89 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:24.120 consider those things. It's to consider the variance criteria in in the land development code. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Any other questions for staff? Is the applicant here? Yes, sir. You chair with us your name and address first, please. >> Brian Faucher, uh 93 East High Street, 90 00:26:24.120 --> 00:26:38.280 Oviedo, Florida. >> Yes, sir. >> Um I'm here to answer any questions, but uh I think you covered I I think that the the major uh discrepancy is easements and we've been talking quite extensively about uh what to do about 91 00:26:38.280 --> 00:26:54.400 that and uh uh trying to, you know, work out an agreement. And then today it was presented that there is actually a page recorded that's a a 25-ft easement on um the other one. So, that's the where the 92 00:26:54.400 --> 00:27:12.320 they can put a road if they wish to to go in and out and not to cut across 37A. But anyway, that's I'm here to answer any questions. >> Perfect. Thank you, sir. Any questions for the applicant? Well, that was easy. 93 00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:28.200 Thank you, sir. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, is anyone here to speak I'm sorry. I I've got my forms right here. I have got one, two, three, four in opposition. The first one 94 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:50.000 is Joyce Jones. Ms. Jones, come on down, please. And we've got your information on the on the form here, so you don't need to give that unless you want to. >> Hi, my name is Joyce Jones. I'm at 873 Snow Hill Road, Geneva, Florida. 95 00:27:50.000 --> 00:28:06.040 Um I want to make sure that I'm clear here. So, um the 5 acres, I know that was grandfathered in. Okay, so that's off the books. But number two, um 96 00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:25.960 the building variance from 150 to 105, someone was saying something about um something happened that I don't know about. >> Ms. Hammel, if you maybe perhaps explain to her we I think we're talking about parcels of record. >> I um Kathy Hammel, Development Services. And 97 00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:42.800 what we are talking about when we're talking about grand >> the mic, please? >> Yeah. When we're talking about grandfathering in is we're talking about the dimensional requirements of the property. So, the A-1 zoning classification or the ag classification requires a minimum of 150 ft frontage on 98 00:28:42.800 --> 00:28:57.240 a public road. >> Mhm. >> If you were going to create a lot today, that would be the requirement. But, this lot previously had a home on it and is a legal parcel record. So, we will grandfather in the dimensional requirements of the lot, but we don't 99 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:13.040 grandfather in any of the variances. >> Okay, so it's two different parcels here. >> Yes. >> So, I don't think there was a home on both parcels. >> Yes, there was. >> I think it was a home on one of the parcels. >> I have the tax >> And there was a mobile home on the other. 100 00:29:13.040 --> 00:29:28.920 >> Right. We count the mobile home as a as a home. That's still a home. >> So, you're saying that um you grandfathered in the um 150 >> Yes. >> Okay, cuz it they didn't do that for me and I 101 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:48.080 But, okay. All right, so let's go to the third one, which is the setback variance. 50 ft to 40 ft. Um I'm in opposition of that. Um I would like for it to stay at 50 ft. 102 00:29:48.080 --> 00:30:05.120 Um Snowhill Road is a very busy road. Um all the neighbors and we have been we have had a lot of new neighbors coming in building and everyone is going with the 50 ft um setback. So, um I don't 103 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:22.280 know what Mr. I'm sorry, I can't Faucheux. I'm I We've We've spoke um quite a bit, but I'm not for sure how he's um why he needs of the 10 ft because I mean, I think he's been going around and 104 00:30:22.280 --> 00:30:37.480 and round about how he was going to set his house. Is that the reason why you're asking for the um >> There is I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry, folks. I I apologize. The way we set these things up is we can't have a back and forth 105 00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:54.200 between you and and and the applicant or the applicant and you. >> Okay. just You can share with us your concerns and and we'll politely listen. >> Okay. I I just um >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. So, the the the community happened we've been working with him and going over this stuff for a while. So, 106 00:30:54.200 --> 00:31:11.200 um when we seen where um it wanted to be um from 50 ft to 40 ft that took everyone by surprise and we want to know why. I mean So, that's it. And as far as the um the easement we're handling that. So, we have that under 107 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:26.640 control. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for Ms. Jones? Just Ms. Jones a quick question. And your your concern about the the the fifth from the 50 ft to 40 ft in that that 10 ft distance >> Yes, sir. 108 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:42.520 >> And and you had shared that that Snow Hill Road is is a very busy road. >> Mhm. >> I guess my question to you would be if this gentleman is okay with that distance being closer to that busy road why would that be a concern to >> It's a concern because we would like to 109 00:31:42.520 --> 00:31:59.840 see keep the uh community as it is. I mean we would like for the community we don't want a staggering houses. I mean We want to keep the community the way it is. We don't have a problem with him building the house. Of course not, you 110 00:31:59.840 --> 00:32:17.880 know. But, if we can everyone have the same rules, you know, we do the same thing. >> It's it's a consistency issue for you. I got you. All right. Any other questions for Ms. Jones? All right. Thank you, ma'am. The next person I have is 111 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:48.280 And as I'm getting older and blinder, I apologize. Is it Malta Bellamy? I apologize if I'm mispronouncing that. And Bellamy, I apologize if I mispronounced your first name. >> My name is Martha Bellamy and I've been on Snow Hill Road right 112 00:32:48.280 --> 00:33:04.320 where I am for 60 years. And for somebody to move move it and I got to move my road and it's right in my yard and nobody doing nothing to it. He just comes in and say we got to move the 113 00:33:04.320 --> 00:33:20.360 road over. Who do I talk to? This family that's the family and my niece sold it to a guy. But I don't think that that's right. If he can come and tell come in our yard 114 00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:37.120 my yard and tell me to get off his land when I came and the my family was up here out there. You all made my mother send me over and I had to buy the right away from her. Did I say you right? 115 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:54.360 He ain't buying the right away. He's just going to move us over. I've been here 60 years. I'm 78 years old and I really don't need to go nowhere. We need help. >> I got you. Thank you, ma'am. 116 00:33:54.360 --> 00:34:10.159 >> Me and my children. >> And I apologize. Any questions for Ms. Bellamy? And I don't mean to cut you off. Anything else you want to share? >> Because he already said it's a narrow road and big trucks come in there. They come in there on top of 117 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:26.280 our house. With help from him. But I think he need to make some and put a good road in there. I'll be all right. I'll be all right. I don't want them to lose that but he needs somebody to come out there 118 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:42.679 and and build them road on Snow Hill. You right, Snow Hill is busy now. You don't play back there, right now. It's real busy and coming off the hill is school buses and trucks and big old trucks. They tear up the road. 119 00:34:42.679 --> 00:35:00.040 But we have to have help. I don't mind him I don't know about it. I don't mind not doing nobody right, but he don't do he's not doing us right. He's not doing I can't even get out. If he shut the road down, 120 00:35:00.040 --> 00:35:16.760 I can't get out. >> Miss Miss Bellamy, when you when you say the roads, if if you look at the picture behind you there, do you mean what kind of looks like those I I guess I those dirt roads up there? Is that Is that what you mean? >> Well, where the This is snow. 121 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:34.640 That's snowier road. So. >> Yes, it's it's like a gravel. >> Got you. >> Um we we spent a lot of money to put um put her some gravel cuz it was just sandy and muddy. So, um me and my husband spent like $2,000 to try to get 122 00:35:34.640 --> 00:35:51.520 it situated for her. She's 86 years old, so just trying to help her. >> Who's 86 years old? >> She's 86. >> I don't believe a word you're saying. >> Yes, sir. >> But we we need help. >> trying to help her. >> I'm not trying to ruin We ruin He just need to come along with us. He come in, 123 00:35:51.520 --> 00:36:07.320 cut my lights off. >> Okay. I know. Okay. >> You know? You don't command nothing >> Okay. >> to nobody. You You like I told him, be with us and we'll share together in that place. >> Thank you, ma'am. 124 00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:23.720 >> We're We're breaking down together. >> Thank you, ma'am. The next name I might name I have is um Memi Griffin. Is Griffin you're okay? All right. Uh Charles Williams. Mr. Williams, did you Are you okay? 125 00:36:23.720 --> 00:36:41.680 >> Yeah, I'm fine. >> Okay. Uh Uh, that's it. Anyone else in the audience who speak in opposition? Seeing none, um, I'll close the floor. What do we do this, since we since we have folks who have taken time to come and share their thoughts is make a I'll 126 00:36:41.680 --> 00:36:58.720 entertain a motion and then we can have a discussion and call the vote. Uh, is there a motion? >> Mr. Chair. >> Mr. Wright. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve Mr. Wright. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second from Mr. Lavoy. Uh, 127 00:36:58.720 --> 00:37:15.560 your motion I'll let you start, sir. >> Um, I I again, my from what I've heard, it's a legal parcel of record. It has access to Snow Hill Road. It doesn't meet the current requirements. The setbacks are are based 128 00:37:15.560 --> 00:37:32.080 on the current requirements, but the lot does not meet that and it's already grandfathered in. So, um, I'm looking at it that the the the 40-ft from 50-ft is the minimal, you know, I mean we could argue a foot here or there, but um, I'm not seeing any 129 00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:50.280 objections. While I understand there's an issue with, you know, concerns about road access, there is no there is no dedicated easements that were being provided that says where the road's supposed to be. The historical road is going through another person's property. 130 00:37:50.280 --> 00:38:05.120 Um, that's not what we're looking at right now. We're looking at the the easement or excuse me, the variance to the setback. Um, and I don't have any issues with that. >> Any other thoughts? I I I I tend to agree with what you're 131 00:38:05.120 --> 00:38:22.080 saying. I I have respect for what these the folks have shared with us. My view on it is that issues of whether a lot might be landlocked, whether there's are there easement issues, there are access issues, that's not a government issue, that's a a civil issue. And and unfortunately, 132 00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:37.680 that would have people lawyering up. Uh but but I I agree with with what you're saying. Uh so with that, I'll call the vote. We have a motion to approve. Uh and we have a second. >> Do you have any comment? >> Go ahead. Yeah. >> Okay, I'm sorry. I meant to speak on it. 133 00:38:37.680 --> 00:38:54.600 >> There was a couple of theories, right? >> You haven't You haven't called me by the right name all night, so I'm >> Fair space. Fair space. >> That's getting hot. It's getting hot. >> Don't you guys start throwing things. >> Those in favor of the motion? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> Those opposed? It passes. 134 00:38:54.600 --> 00:39:11.120 >> And then it moves us to the sister parcel, number nine, please. >> Yes. Um item number nine of or parcel 37 Snow Hill Road has also both variances have been withdrawn by staff for the same reason. They're both legal parcels of record and met the 135 00:39:11.120 --> 00:39:35.200 requirements in 1991 as well as 1978. >> So the the item itself has been withdrawn from the agenda in essence. >> Yes. There are no setback variances required on this, just for the lot size and the lot width. >> All right. Well, then we're on to number 10, then. >> Okay, item number 10 is a request for a 136 00:39:35.200 --> 00:39:51.720 rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 18 ft for an addition in the R2 one and two family dwelling district in the Carol- Carolyn Estates subdivision located at 1744 West Sheryl Street. The proposed addition will be 805 sq ft and 137 00:39:51.720 --> 00:40:07.320 will encroach 12 ft to the required rear yard setback. The rear of the property abuts a 25-ft multi-use easement that belongs to the adjacent Autumn Glen subdivision. I had a typo in there. It should be six 138 00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:23.680 signatures of support were received from adjacent neighbors as well as the meeting minutes from the HOA meeting for approval. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property and this concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? 139 00:40:23.680 --> 00:40:41.160 Is the applicant here? Is there anything you'd like to add, sir? >> Yes, please. >> Please. >> Good evening and thank you for your time. My name is Ronald Landers. I live at 1744 Cheryl Drive, by the way. I think it's a 140 00:40:41.160 --> 00:40:58.120 street on the documentation but it's drive. So basically my parents, both in their 70s, my father experienced a back-to-back cancer issues, glioma and then a colon cancer. Thank God he's he's okay 141 00:40:58.120 --> 00:41:14.920 now but with that being said, I just need them to be as close as possible to me. So what I originally wanted to do was actually a free standing facility I free standing free standing addition there. But based on the setbacks and the utilities and so forth, 142 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:31.200 with my contractor and so forth, we submitted what would be a I guess a good compromise instead of being a separate structure, it's actually an addition. And as you guys can see from the documentation, I got approval from my neighbors as well as the homeowners association 143 00:41:31.200 --> 00:41:46.400 voted that they would they would approve it. >> Thank you, sir. Any any questions for the applicant? Thank you, sir. >> Thank you again for your time. >> Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in opposition? 144 00:41:46.400 --> 00:42:01.320 Seeing none. What is the board's pleasure? >> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve by Mr. Bond, second by Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> Aye. >> Opposed? All right. Best of luck. I'm sorry your family's going through that. >> Thank you. >> Number 11, please. 145 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:18.000 >> Item number 11 is a request for a rear rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 21 ft for an accessory structure in the A1 agricultural district in in McNeals Orange Villa subdivision located at 624 Eden Park Road. The proposed 308 square foot accessory 146 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:33.840 structure will be used for storage and will encroach 9 ft into the required rear yard setback. Two letters of support were received by adjacent neighbors. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property and this concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for 147 00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:49.280 staff? Seeing none. Is the applicant here? >> I'm I'm sure I apologize. I wasn't I wasn't catching up. Um the letters of approval are not letters of approval but the letters of acceptance by the neighbors. Which were which ones were cuz I don't see them on the 148 00:42:49.280 --> 00:43:05.480 >> Oh, I'm sorry. They were submitted after the the staff report was done but I have them right here. >> Okay. >> Are they I thought they were in the staff report in the >> Well, if anything they're not they're not on the graphic. >> I just didn't 149 00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:23.280 I went to the graphic to see >> Yeah, GIS doesn't it's too late for them to update it after receiving these but one is from 624 or excuse me, 628 Eden Park Road, Jimmy White. 150 00:43:23.640 --> 00:43:40.320 I don't know where that is on the map. >> Looks like the one to the south. >> Yeah. And the other one is 635 Park Forest Court. >> Behind it. >> Thank you. >> Behind. >> All right. 151 00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:58.360 Any other questions for staff? Is the applicant here? Anything you you anything you'd like to add, sir? Come on down. >> How long is >> We'll make we'll make we'll make a new friend, hopefully. And if you'd just share with us your name and address, please, sir. 152 00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:14.200 >> Uh my name is Art Alley. I am at 624 Eden Park Road, Maitland. And what we're do all we're doing is there's been a storage shed there for 18 years. It kind of deteriorated. So, 153 00:44:14.200 --> 00:44:29.800 we just replaced it in exactly the same spot. So, I'm not getting close to any setback or anything. And the um one neighbor is the one immediately behind me, which is the one affected, and they they are fine with it. They're 154 00:44:29.800 --> 00:44:45.480 glad to see me uh put a new storage shed there, but it's no closer to the setback than the old one was. Uh it it's just identical except I've got about 2 ft more 155 00:44:45.480 --> 00:45:00.400 toward the front uh because I got remarried and she has stuff, so we wanted to make it bigger. So, but nothing changed, and you know, the neighbors are great with it. Um uh and it um 156 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:17.680 looks just like the old one, only nicer. >> Any questions for the applicant? Mr. Arthur, did you have a chance to chat with your neighbor to the north at 612? >> That is No, not. The two neighbors that are This is a 1-acre lot. 157 00:45:17.680 --> 00:45:34.440 The neighbor to the north is Jimmy White, that immediately to the north. >> And and they're okay? >> He's fine. He's got the letter. And the one behind us, which is what the question was on the setback, is the one in Park Place. Uh immediately she has 158 00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:51.320 the whole property behind us. >> Oh, those both parcels? >> Very happy with everything. >> Got you. Got you. Thank you, sir. Any other questions for the applicant? Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Anyone to speak in support of the matter? Seeing none, anyone here to speak in 159 00:45:51.320 --> 00:46:07.920 opposition to the matter? Seeing none. Your pleasure. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Motion to approve by Mr. Levant, second by Mr. Evans. Those in favor? >> Aye. >> Opposed? >> Aye. Enjoy. >> Thank you very much. >> Number 12. >> Good evening. For the record, Hillary 160 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:23.000 Payton, Planning and Development. Item number 12 is two variance requests for 851 Barr Street. The requests are for an accessory structure size variance from 50% to 175.8% of the living area of the principal dwelling unit. And a height variance 161 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:41.280 from 13 ft 8 in to 28 ft 9 in for a guest house in the A1 zoning district. The existing principal dwelling unit is 2,276 sq ft and 13 ft 8 in tall. The request is to construct a 4,000 sq ft 28 ft 9 162 00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:58.280 9-in tall detached guest house and garage that exceeds the accessory structure size maximum by 1,724 sq ft and the height requirement by 15 ft 1 in. The The proposed accessory structure will be two story tall with the first floor 163 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:14.640 serving as a 2,000 sq ft garage and the second floor serving as a 2,000 sq ft two bedroom two bathroom guest house. A letter of support has been received from the adjacent property owner. This concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions. >> Any questions for staff? 164 00:47:14.640 --> 00:47:34.720 Ms. Payton, is this in Is this far enough east? Is it in the rural area? >> It's not in the rural >> It's not. Got you. Thank you, ma'am. Is the applicant here? Please, come on down. >> Good afternoon. Jessica Corrigan, 851 Barr Street. I'm the homeowner. >> Yes, ma'am. 165 00:47:34.720 --> 00:47:50.120 >> Um what we're building is there was a current barn there when we moved in and a cottage that was about 500 sq ft. They were not permitted. Um upon moving in in 2024, we sustained a flood damage from, I 166 00:47:50.120 --> 00:48:07.120 believe it was Milton. Um so, what we are proposing is we've demolished the barn that's there. We are building it as a two-story structure. We are building it to flood. We are not disturbing the Econ River when it does flood. Um we are taking on the water for the first floor. And the 167 00:48:07.120 --> 00:48:21.920 reason of building it as a two-story structure is that there would be no living space on the first floor. Um my husband and I both primarily work from our homes. Um our current residence does not account for any office space in our current home. This allows for us to build it. I cannot add to my primary 168 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:38.800 structure. It sits at base elevation. So, in order to add to it, I would actually have to probably demolish my whole building or raise the entire thing. Um and it is a perfectly fine primary structure. This second structure is actually not a guest house, um despite the representation. Um it 169 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:54.920 doesn't meet the definition. Um and I have presented no evidence that would count it as a guest house. Um it is being used as office space. Um we will have no guests other than my family residing at this place, um if we choose to, or using it as as office space. 170 00:48:54.920 --> 00:49:11.120 play. We have children. Um And that's what we're asking to be able to build it as. Any questions? >> Yes, ma'am. Any questions? Easy now. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Anyone in the audience to speak in support of the matter? 171 00:49:11.120 --> 00:49:27.640 >> Um board, I would like to add, if this is going to be a dwelling unit, then she would be restricted to an accessory dwelling unit, which would be capped at size and would not be qualified for this variance. >> But and and and and just one one moment, ma'am. And and there was there was mention of using as an office. Does that 172 00:49:27.640 --> 00:49:43.200 affect what what >> have a home office, it's supposed to be within your home. Um having separate living space, a bedroom, bathroom, living room, um if that's going to be an accessory dwelling unit, it would be capped at size. So, that's why we considered it a 173 00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:59.440 guest house. It's because um guest houses are not capped at size other than the 50%. >> So, the the county staff is of course limited by controlled by Florida law and by the Seminole County Seminole County land development code 174 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:16.120 and it sounds like they have a description for the use of it that would pending the board's approval would allow you to do what you want to do. I presume you're not objecting to that description. >> Um, I don't think it's an accessory dwelling unit by the definition of what 175 00:50:16.120 --> 00:50:33.520 the code says. I've read the code. I don't actually think it meets the guest think it's an accessory structure. So, how I choose to use it is part for it that it's an accessory structure. I don't believe it qualifies as an ADU and it wasn't submitted as an ADU. Um, if you want to call it a guest 176 00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:50.000 house, all I'm saying to the board is that there hasn't been any evidence presented to make a finding that it is in fact a guest house. And we can go into the interpretation. Don't believe that that's a correct interpretation, but 177 00:50:50.000 --> 00:51:05.680 >> Let's let's let's ask this then and and question back for staff. What was applied for? >> Um, the application said that it was office recreational space. I advised Jessica in my email to her that we would 178 00:51:05.680 --> 00:51:22.720 consider it a guest house and received no objection. So, I proceeded with it as a guest house. >> I would say then we we we and I appreciate what you're saying and if you want to respond to that before I say anything. >> You can 179 00:51:22.720 --> 00:51:38.760 call it what you will in terms of how it's to be used. Miss Payne and I have had quite the inner the change. I don't recall ever receiving an email indicating that she was going to call it a guest house until I received the placard. It wasn't applied for as a guest house. It was 180 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:55.640 applied for as an accessory structure. Um, and I do believe it meets that definition. In terms of it the accessory structure does require or does the code does have the 50% and it can't exceed it. Um we went back and forth in terms of actually whether my application could 181 00:51:55.640 --> 00:52:12.320 even proceed forward um and it wasn't Miss um Peyton that approved it. It was Miss Giles finally um agreed that there was an improper interpretation by Miss Peyton, which allowed my application to proceed forward. She had a pre-previously denied 182 00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:28.720 my application from even coming in front of the board despite there being precedent having prior um variances exceeding 100% of the primary structure being previously granted by this board. Um 183 00:52:28.720 --> 00:52:44.240 So, we have had our back and forth emails. In terms of the use of it, um we are still requesting the variance. We do the code will require a variance to have it built the way it is. Um I don't want there to be a limitation 184 00:52:44.240 --> 00:53:01.440 though as to how defining it as a guest house when there hasn't been the evidence put put before the board to call it such, I do take issue with that. But it is an accessory structure. I will agree with that. It is not my primary residence on there. And 185 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:18.880 so, yes, it's an accessory structure. >> Do we Let me put this question then back to the county attorney's office and perhaps Miss Miss Hammel as well. Do we have an issue based on on the testimony before the board tonight? Do we have an issue with a difference between what was noticed and what was 186 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:33.760 applied for? >> So, all we can rely on is the competent substantial evidence that we have for the record. >> No, no, I'm talking about just flat out what was applied for and what cuz it sounds like from in in if I hear the applicant 187 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:51.000 correctly is what was put on the placard for for posting and for notice is different from what she applied for, if I'm hearing correctly. Is is that what you guys heard? So, yeah. >> So, what what did your placard say? >> My placard called it a guest house, and I sent Ms. Payton an email indicating that it wasn't a guest house. 188 00:53:51.000 --> 00:54:06.240 And then I received no response to that, and I asked what would be the implication of calling it a guest house, cuz that's not how it was applied for. >> That's That's my question. So, I I think we have uh through through I think an an honest, innocent, perhaps mistake or 189 00:54:06.240 --> 00:54:23.200 disagreement, but something being put on a on public notice of the posting that that the applicant is telling us is different from what they had applied for. Now, we mean I don't know if we have the actual applications in front of us here, but it sounds to me like that's an issue that needs to be 190 00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:38.800 straightened out before the board considers it. If if if if if your opinion is otherwise, I I could be wrong. >> No, there there obviously is a disparity between what was applied for and what was advertised, if that's the case, and that could be problematic. But 191 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:56.720 again, all we can rely on it as far as your consideration is weighing the competent substantial evidence of the record, i.e., what was applied for, what was submitted to the county, and how that's weighed with the variance criteria in the code. So, I don't know if if if staff and the 192 00:54:56.720 --> 00:55:14.640 applicant want to discuss this issue further, or this is this is the first time I've become aware of this. So, I'm I'm Talk about flat out voted. >> My My My concern, and you'll tell me if you disagree if I'm I'm going to rogue on this, is if we have an application in 193 00:55:14.640 --> 00:55:30.280 front of us, and I'm tapping at at the agenda on my screen here, that that is saying that we are considering a guest house, and I if I have testimony from an applicant who says this is not a guest house, and not what I want, we've got a clash here, and I think it 194 00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:45.640 it strikes me as inappropriate for us to consider it until that discrepancy That doesn't mean a denial, but it's just that we should not be considering something that's inconsistent with what this property owner is asking for. >> Yeah, that I agree. That discrepancy needs to be ironed out before before this 195 00:55:45.640 --> 00:56:02.040 >> we can do that tonight. >> No. No. >> So so here >> Here's my >> Wait wait wait one quick second. I'm sorry. Mr. Mr. Wright. Regardless of you know, office, garage, guest house garage, what are the implications on the 196 00:56:02.040 --> 00:56:18.960 variance? Is there Is there a It you know, it's it's still an accessory structure. The 50% based on residential is still applicable, correct? Regardless of what it's called. >> Correct. >> And the variance request would remain 197 00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:33.880 the same. Or the variance requirement would remain the same. >> Yes. >> Okay. So again, I'm I'm trying to I understand the language difference, you know, whether you know, whatever you want to call it. Call it a building. I don't care. Um 198 00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:50.080 it doesn't change the fact that it still requires a variance to the size, and it requires a variance to the height, and it requires I think those are the two things, correct? >> I I just want to clarify the discussion between um Hillary and the applicant is 199 00:56:50.080 --> 00:57:06.480 that I believe Hillary is trying to assist her because the home office can only be 25% of your home. It has to be located in your home. So if she's stating that this is a home office, that's not permitted as a separate structure. So that's why it's designed as a guest 200 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:22.360 house. It's It has a living room, kitchen, two bedrooms, two bath. And so for us, that design is a guest house, and that would allow her to have the ability to ask for this variance. >> I I I hear that. My My concern, and again, everyone tell me if if if I'm 201 00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:37.320 wrong on that, is and I I think your points well taken, Mr. Wright. It's it's uh but my concern is is a use concern, and and and what you're saying makes perfect sense, but the applicant has the right to apply for what she wants to apply 202 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:53.960 for, and I'd hate to have a situation where we approve one thing and that perhaps sets her up for a code enforcement problem because the use would be inconsistent with what we approve. >> That's right. >> But if if I'm interpreting that wrong, you guys tell me. >> Well, it would be the same thing if we went forward and she's using it as a as 203 00:57:53.960 --> 00:58:10.520 a home office, that's also as a code enforcement violation. >> Which is her right to attempt to do. >> So, it's to add on to what I was asking then, so there is if it's classified under with the understanding that if it was put in as a home office by 204 00:58:10.520 --> 00:58:26.000 description, we don't have the correct variance that we're reviewing tonight. >> Right, we don't have a variance to allow a home office as a separate structure, so it wouldn't come before the board. >> So, here's here's a question I'll put 205 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:42.480 back to you, ma'am, is what is before us, and all we can consider is what's on the agenda. And and I understand how frustrating that that that sounds as you're standing there and hearing this conversation, but we would be considering a use that is a 206 00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:58.200 guest house. Do you want us to go forward and consider that, or would you rather have this matter continue to next month and you and the staff can see if you can sort that issue out? >> I do not want it to be continued to next month. We've been sitting waiting for many months to try to move forward with 207 00:58:58.200 --> 00:59:13.520 this project. So, I'll concede that that's if you want to call it a guest house, then call it a guest house. My use for it still stands of how I intend to use it and why it's being built in the manner it's being built given its location in a flood zone. Um 208 00:59:13.520 --> 00:59:30.440 so, I will concede to it being a guest house then if it allows the board to hear it and vote on it tonight so we can hopefully proceed forward in some manner. >> I appreciate your candor very much. Uh so, having said that, I'll >> One one follow-up question, >> for staff. I'm sorry. >> And and this is for staff just um 209 00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:47.360 so whether whether goes to the guest house or goes as what she had originally applied for, outside of the use issue and with the code enforcement issue, is the building code as in the actual terms of building, is it any more or less onerous for her to go for the guest house instead of the 210 00:59:47.360 --> 01:00:02.320 anything else? I I I I know I understand from from what I understand Ms. Hamlin and and Ms. Hayden, the attempt was to try to help her to move her guest house. But is that more or less onerous? I just want to make sure that the applicant is aware if there are any structural building code issues. 211 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:19.760 >> It's not it's it won't be any issues with the building code. It still is going to fall under the residential building code standards. >> Okay. >> Thank you, ma'am. Is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? 212 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:37.240 Seeing none, what is the board's pleasure? >> Move to approve. >> Move. Motion approved. Seconded by Mr. Wright. We have a second from Mr. Evans. Those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? You are approved. And I'm sorry this was more difficult than you anticipated. 213 01:00:37.240 --> 01:00:52.640 Next item, please. >> Item number 13 is two variance requests for 226 Flamingo Drive located in the Sunland Estates subdivision. The requests are for an accessory structure size variance from 50% to 108.5% of the living area of the principal 214 01:00:52.640 --> 01:01:08.120 building and a height variance from 12 ft to 16 ft for a detached garage in the R1 zoning district. The principal building is 1,844 sq ft and 12 ft in height. The request is to construct a 2,000 sq ft 16 ft tall 215 01:01:08.120 --> 01:01:24.000 detached garage that exceeds the accessory structure size by 1,078 sq ft and the height requirement by 4 ft. Three letters of support have been received from the adjacent property owners and residents. This concludes my presentation. I'll be available for any questions. >> Thank you, ma'am. questions for staff? 216 01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:41.120 See none. Is the applicant here? >> Yes. >> Would you like to add anything, sir? >> Uh yeah. >> Come on down. Please share with us your name and address. >> Justin Barreto, 226 Flamingo Drive, Sanford, Florida. >> Please. >> So, I had made plans uh before COVID to 217 01:01:41.120 --> 01:01:59.000 uh build a home there. We technically already have a home, so we wanted to break up the home in the back and extend it, and basically bring it over past the pool and build a garage. But, I want to build it build a garage first. 218 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:14.320 That way we can go ahead and put all our stuff in there and continue with the rest of the construction going over from the left to the right. Now, I had spoke to uh Hillary. She was helping me through everything. At first, the variance that we were 219 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:30.840 going to go for was that I was just going to ask for help with being allowed to do the garage first, but they wouldn't allow it because it's surpassing the 50% limits and the heights for the current house, even though I had 220 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:46.640 submitted already plans that uh architectural plans that we have a whole build out. We just have to build it out in sections cuz we're changing construction materials. We're staying within guidelines, but instead of it being brick and mortar, it's going to be 221 01:02:46.640 --> 01:03:02.480 just a metal garage. Since it's being built by several uh several different people as far as the sections go, it's not like I can set a permit get a permit for just building the home and then again okayed and then just starting 222 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:19.400 with the garage. So, I'm in a pickle on whether I'm going to be allowed to just do the garage first. Now, all of a sudden, instead of just being allowed to do the garage first with the intent of it's going to be 50% is 6,000 sq ft living structure, 2,000 square foot 223 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:36.320 garage, 4,000 uh living, right? So, she decided to say that it was a lot easier to just go for a variance for height because they couldn't allow maybe somebody would just 224 01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:54.960 say, "You know what? I'm not going to build the rest." And then they would be stuck allowing a garage, which is technically uh We just called it earlier. I just went blank. Uh a separate, you know, structure. All right? 225 01:03:54.960 --> 01:04:10.120 So, she ended up saying that we have to go for height and size variance instead. But, in reality, I have the intent to build something, you know, all uniform and together. But, I have to do that this way first. 226 01:04:10.120 --> 01:04:27.240 So, I'm just really trying to get this passed so that I can get the rest of the house done in the sections that allow me to I've been trying to do this since last year, August. It's about to make a year. And I have the builder there, too, just for any technical uh information if you 227 01:04:27.240 --> 01:04:44.800 need anything on the structure. >> Got you. Thank you, sir. Any questions for the applicant? Thank you, sir. >> Thank you. >> Easy. Uh anyone in the audience to speak in support of the matter? >> Yes. >> Yes, sir. Come on down. We'd love to hear from contractors. 228 01:04:44.800 --> 01:05:01.360 >> Uh Eric from Husky Steel Buildings. How you doing? Hi, Hillary. Uh pleasure to meet you guys. Yeah, we're just just what he said. And uh we're going to make sure that it's up to code uh as far as uh uh the the structure, the siding materials. It's not going to look like a metal building. 229 01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:17.280 It's going to have a lap siding that's now required in Seminole. So, it'll look very It'll look beautiful. That's all. It won't look like a metal building is what I wanted to let you know. And the lap I have that lot siding. That's it. >> Got you. Any questions for the applicant's representative? 230 01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:32.560 All right. Anyone else Oh. >> I also wanted to mention >> I'm sorry, you have you have to come Just for the record. Yes, sir. >> Uh I actually spoke to all my neighbors and I have everything signed that they are okay with it. >> Perfect. Thank you, sir. Anyone else in the audience to speak in 231 01:05:32.560 --> 01:05:47.480 support? Seeing none. Anyone here to speak in opposition? Seeing none. What is the board's pleasure? >> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve by Mr. Vance, second by Ms. Clifford. Those in Those in Long night. Those in favor? >> I. >> I. 232 01:05:47.480 --> 01:06:05.720 >> Thank you. Those opposed? All right. Easy enough. Enjoy. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. >> Number 14, please. >> Item number 14 is a variance request for 1938 Philly Trail, located in the Brookmore Estates subdivision and plan development. The request is for a rear 233 01:06:05.720 --> 01:06:23.080 yard setback variance from 20 ft to 5 ft to construct a 16-ft by 20-ft cabana, encroaching 15 ft into the rear yard setback. The property abuts a 25-ft open space tract owned by the Brookmore Estates Homeowners Association, who has approved this request. A letter of support has 234 01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:37.840 been received from the adjacent property owner. This concludes my presentation. I'll be available for any questions. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Seeing none. Is the applicant here? >> I'm the representative, contractor. >> Anything you want to add, sir? Please come on down. Like I said, we love to hear from 235 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:54.680 contractors. Just share with us your name and address, please. >> My name is Adam Smith. I live at 960 Gamewell Avenue, Maitland, Florida. I represent him. We're building a cabana. It's a 16 by 20-ft open cabana. 236 01:06:54.680 --> 01:07:11.200 The HOA came, they approved everything. Um It's the same architectural style as the house. The next door neighbor already approved it. Right below him to the west of him is a conservation area and north of him is a conservation area, so they don't There's no neighbors there. 237 01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:27.600 Um I don't You have any questions or everybody's good with it? >> Pretty straightforward. Any questions for the applicant's representative? Thank you, sir. Easy enough. Anyone else to speak or anyone to speak in support of this matter? Anyone to speak in opposition? 238 01:07:27.600 --> 01:07:42.680 Seeing none, your pleasure. >> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve from Mr. Lot. Seconded by Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> Aye. >> Opposed? All right. There we go. Next one, please. >> Item number 15 is a variance request for 239 01:07:42.680 --> 01:07:59.760 1021 New Jersey Avenue, located in the Little Washington Estates subdivision. The request is for a rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 16 ft for a detached garage in the R-1A zoning district. The request is to construct a 1,260 sq ft detached garage with recreation 240 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:15.960 space encroaching 14 ft into the rear yard setback. Three letters of support have been received from adjacent property owners. This concludes my presentation. Available for any questions. >> Thank you, ma'am. Any questions for staff? Seeing none. Is the applicant here? Anything y'all want to add? Come on 241 01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:37.920 down. >> My name's Colleen Loomis. I live at 926 Oak Drive, Altamonte Springs, Florida. I'm here on behalf of my brother who planned a vacation 10 months ago. So, he's in Portugal tonight. >> Nice. >> And we have our developer contractor with us. So, I'm just 242 01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:54.040 available for questions. >> Uh, any questions for the applicant? Do you know if they chatted with their neighbor cuz it doesn't show up in in the paperwork we have, uh, their neighbor behind them? >> Not that I know of. I'm not sure who the neighbor is behind. 243 01:08:54.040 --> 01:09:09.560 >> Fair enough. Fair enough. Um, any other questions? Thank you. Easy enough. Uh, anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Anyone here to speak in opposition? Seeing none, what do you all think? 244 01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:25.960 >> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve Mr. Lavant, second by Mr. Evans. Those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Opposed? All right. We have to bring your support back now. You saved the day. All right, we need to return back, I think it's to number six. 245 01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:42.480 And is the applicant for number six here? I do not see that person. So, we can consider it tonight, or we can continue it to a date certain. What is the board's pleasure? 246 01:09:42.480 --> 01:09:58.280 >> Move to continue to next month's meeting. >> Mr. Lavant has moved to continue it to the July meeting. Is there a second? Mr. Wright has seconded. Those in favor? >> I. >> All right, it's done. Last item on our agenda is the minutes. The chair will entertain a motion. >> Move to approve the minutes from last 247 01:09:58.280 --> 01:10:14.840 month. >> Motion to approve from Mr. Evans. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Ms. Clifford. Those in favor? >> I. >> All right, any opposed? All right. Anything else you all want to chat about? We're adjourned. Thank everyone so much. >> We have been a little over an hour.