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[Music] Everyone, welcome to the September 2025
board of adjustment meeting. Uh, for those of you in the audience who have not attended one of our meetings before, allow me please to share with you our normal procedures. As each item comes along on the agenda, staff will introduce each item for consideration.
Uh if you are not the applicant and if you want to speak on a matter either for it or against it, there's a form in the lobby. We ask you please to fill out and when you do hand it to the clerk who is on my left. Uh as the matter comes up, the applicant and the applicant supporters will be heard first and those
in opposition will be heard next. If necessary, uh the applicant does have an opportunity for rebuttal. We ask that comments be restricted to just what's pertinent, what is pertinent, what is before us. We don't get into personal disputes or homeowners disputes or any
of that kind of stuff. Uh if you're an individual and you're not the applicant, you'll have three minutes to speak. If you represent an organization, a real organization, uh you'll have six minutes to speak. Uh and and we ask that speakers move a little closer to the podium when their item is being
presented. When you come to the podium, we ask that you state your name and address for the record. Uh and we ask that everybody be given courteous attention. No sniping from the audience or anything like that. Uh don't be surprised. We might ask questions of the applicant of of you or of any of the
staff. That's just how it runs. Uh any information that you share, uh printouts, maps, or whatever, photographs, uh we retain as part of the record. If what you have is digital, we can use that too with the camera over there. We just ask that after the meeting you send a copy to staff for the
record. When we have heard all of that, I will close the floor to comment and ask the board for a motion. Once a motion's been made, we might discuss it. We might not. Uh during voting, board members who do
not cast a vote verbally are considered to have voted in favor of the issue. Uh and finally, if you are dissatisfied with any decision of this board, you have 15 days to appeal our decision to the board of county commissioners. uh
and after the meeting staff can help you with that process. Having said that, number one, please. >> Good evening, Angie Gates. Item number one is a request for a north side street setback variance from 20 ft to 10 ft for a carport addition in the PD plan
development district and the Greenwood Lakes D3A located at 604 Waybridge Court. The subject property is a corner lot and considered to have two front yards for setback purposes. The front of the house faces Waybridge
Court and the Wellsford Way street side is where the variance is being sought. The proposed attached carport addition will be 280 square ft and will encroach 10 ft into the required side street setback. Six letters of support were
submitted by adjacent neighbors and there have not been any prior variances for the subject property. This concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, any questions for staff? said carport um going to be over to the west side of the uh property closer to
809 Wellsford Way. >> Yes. Across the street. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Any other Thank you. Is the applicant here? Would you come up please, sir? And we might have a few questions. And if you'd share with us, please your name and address. >> Good evening, gentlemen.
>> Brian Dorian, 2938 Stonewall Place, Sanford. Anything you'd like to add, Serge, to what staff had said? >> Several things, please. >> Uh, the structure that's being proposed is a roof and two posts. Uh, it's aluminum. It's tasteful. There are
numerous of these in the neighborhood. Uh, the reason that we're here to begin with is because it's a corner lot, which has two front yards. If it were in the house next door, we wouldn't have had to seek a variance because there's sufficient room for side setback. But on
a corner lot, obviously the 20 foot side setback impinged upon the 10- foot that we're trying to build this carport. Uh we're currently parking in that spot. Uh a driveway permit was pulled and granted by Semino County in July, and that work has already been completed. Well, to me,
that's 10 amount to Semino County indicating that it's acceptable to park there. All we're trying to do is put a cover over the car. It's a nice car. Um there was overwhelming support from the neighborhood because not only has the resident resided in that house for 15
years, but also uh everybody wants one. Everybody in that community wants the same exact project, the same exact single car carport. And most will not require a variance because obviously most houses are sandwiched in between others and a 10-ft side setback is all that's needed. Um
the the the main reason for this is that the main reason why that vehicle is not in the garage is because HOA restrictions prevent jet skis and boats from being parked outside. So the garage is full of toys and this car, single car, not multiple cars, is parked adjacent to the house. Uh I meant to go
by and grab a picture of the vehicle there, but every time I drove by, the car was gone. So I don't have a photo, but the placard photos that I submitted to show that the variance placards were posted. uh both show the vehicle parked adjacent to the house. So in essence,
this is really just uh uh asking that something can be granted that would have been granted had it been on an adjacent home. Uh it wouldn't have been necessary to get a variance at all. And the structure that's being proposed is tasteful and overwhelmingly accepted by the neighborhood. That's all I have to
say. >> Questions? >> No. Neighbor over to your west is what I was kind of inquiring about. >> Across the street uh >> 809. Yeah. >> Um, they good with it? >> I don't know. I can't see it on a map. I don't know who that is. >> Can will you switch? Do you guys have a
>> the direct backyard neighbor? >> Yep. There you go. >> Uh, it's they're renting that house and I couldn't get a hold of them. Uh, the ren the renter is great. I mean, in fact, he came out to ask what we were measuring up, but they're not going to build it. They are renter. They don't have the ability, but it's a renter at
the moment. >> Thank you, sir. >> I could have sent it to the owner remotely, but >> Okay. Bye. Obviously, they don't live there. >> Gentlemen, any other questions? >> Thank you, sir. >> Is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none,
anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, your pleasure. >> Move to approve. >> Have a motion to approve for Mr. Beley. Second by the vice chair. Those in favor? >> I opposed. >> Enjoy, sir. >> Thank you. >> Number two, please. Item number two is a
request for a front yard setback variance from 50 ft to 30 feet for a single family dwelling in the A1 agricultural district located on vacant lot 2 u of Eureka Hammock. This lot is a legal lot of record and was created prior to Semino County subdivision
regulations being adopted in the early 1960s when the subject lot was created. The minimum lot size was 10,000 square ft. The proposed single family dwelling will be approximately 2,000 square ft and will encroach 20 ft into the required front yard setback.
There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. However, the board of adjustment has in the past approved two other lots for the same variance for the same request. And that concludes my presentation.
>> Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions for staff. >> I have one. Yes, sir. Sorry. Why? Because this is prior to some of the seminal county code. Um why do you all feel this did not meet sort of a special
provision like we have a we've seen uh recommendations for approval in the past >> for special exceptions that are based on seminal county code. Why did this one not fall into it? >> Just because the size of the house. It's possible that they could have done smaller, but that may not be what the
applicant wants. But I do realize, well, we all realize that the septic system has to or in this case has to go in the front or in the rear. So, they need to move it forward. >> So, had they opted for a smaller square footage, it would have not been an
issue. And >> it probably would have met setbacks. However, >> fair enough. >> You know, >> I was just curious. Question. >> It was a It was a great question. >> All right. Um, the applicant, Miss Fischer, anything you'd like to add? >> No.
>> All righty. Anyone here in the audience to speak in support? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. We have someone We have someone in support. >> I'm sorry. I got here late. Um, >> are you for or against? >> Well, I guess I want to better understand. So, my I got the
notification. >> If you could please share with us your name and address. >> Sure. Jennifer Allen >> and I live at 335 Myrtle Street. And um so our property buds up to Miller. So I just wanted to better understand if they were requesting property from my side or
the other residents on the other side. I see the variance for 50 to 30 ft. So I just >> Well, they're not taking >> closer to Miller. >> Okay. >> And and they're not taking any anybody else's land. They're just trying to squeeze what they want to build into the existing property >> which needs a variance for the planning. Yeah. They're not taking any property.
>> Okay. Just like an information. >> Yeah, that's all. >> Okay. Perfect. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> All right. >> Does that answer your question? >> Yes. >> Okay. Good. Uh, anyone in the audience to speak in support? >> Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? >> Seeing none. Gentlemen, >> move to approve. We
>> have a motion to approve from Mr. Beley. Second from the vice chair. Those in favor? I >> opposed. >> Good luck with it. Item number three is a request for a rear yard setback variance from 15 feet to three feet for a covered patio addition in the PD plan development
district in the Sable Point Sable Fairway Villa subdivision located at 215 West Sable Palm Place. The proposed covered patio will be 270 square ft and will encroach 12 feet into the required rear yard setback.
the rear of the subject property at Buds Village on the Greens drainage and open space easement. And there have not been any prior variances for the subject property. And this concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, gentlemen. Questions for staff?
Seeing none, is the applicant here? >> Yes, sir. >> But I I know I have one question. The others might also. Could you would you please come on down? Sorry to drag you down here. >> And then just for the record, if you chair with us your name and address, please.
>> Ken Spanic and I live at 215 West Sable Fall Place. I'm the owner. >> Thank you, sir. My my question is, are you building this like just on the existing concrete slab that's behind the house? >> Uh, no. Okay. Going to dig uh post holes. Thank you.
>> And put in post. Just simple structure, all wood. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you just back right up to that. That's that's like a big old retention pond behind you, right? >> Retention pond behind the house. >> Oh, behind it is Village on the Green. >> It's about Oh, I think I measured 850
ft. And if you notice the picture of the house, there's a tree line that that ends just before my residents that that did not end before they did the construction uh to take up the golf course and put in the the drainage dish and the expand
village on the green property >> and that taken away from the enjoyment of that the beer patio because it cooks it >> during the summer. I mean the temperature inside the sun room which is adjacent to the patio goes over 100
degrees. So it's is more of a life saving and an energy conservation measure is something to give me the enjoyment of the back of the house. It's the neighbors enjoy it. They like it. Uh they're no opposed not opposed to it.
HOA has approved it. My heart stopped on that one. But I think we're we're good to go. If if you guys like it, we're >> perfect. Thank you, sir. Gentlemen, any other questions for the applicant. Thank you for your time, sir. >> Is there anyone in the audience to speak
in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone here to speak in opposition? Come on up, sir. And sir, did I see your hand in the white shirt, sir? You you you Okay. Next. Um, if you'd share with us your name and address, please, sir. Yes.
Gerald Keane. I live at 524 South Long View, Longwood, Florida. I represent the Sable Point HOA. And as the owner said at back in April, we did in fact approve the uh structure
on the property. However, um back then we had a simple ARC application that said cover the existing patio. And unfortunately, there is an existing on our surveys, the existing patio is 10
feet wide and seven feet off the house. Apparently, this owner or some previous owner has expanded that patio considerably to be now 15 ft by 17 ft. Uh, nothing in the ark said anything
about a complex structure such as what has been proposed. There was no discussion of a variance and there was no discussion of building permits. So we thought it was a simple enclosure etc.
Now we were provided two drawings. We probably did misinterpret what those drawings are telling us but we certainly didn't understand it. So unfortunately in May our art committee did approve that but our plan is to resend that
approval because having seen now the information that was presented to the planning and zoning we now know the details and we have to the best of our knowledge nowhere in Sable Point is there a structure within 3 ft of a property line and this would be the
first one. In fact, in simple terms, if you put a on this particular village, if you put a fence in, whether it's a wooden fence or a metal fence, it has to be 7 ft from the property line. So, at
our next board meeting, unfortunately, we just found out about this at our our September board meeting. We got one of the neighbors had sent one of the board members a hearing notice picture. And so at our our intention is at our next
board meeting in the next month, we will resend the approval which is within the right of the board of directors. And it's unlikely that we would approve anything that goes within 3 ft of a neighboring property line.
Thank you. Questions? >> I've got a question. So are you speaking for the HOA right now? Yes. So you're speaking for the community? >> Yes, I am. I am the compliance chair who is the one that sort of does you know the enforcement of the rules for lack of
a better word. Um, so yes, that's why I'm speaking >> and I'm trying and I just wanted to make sure I'm understanding the reasoning why is because seinal uh Sable Point has the rule of nothing within I think you said 10 ft or 7 ft you said of of
>> well the fence the the current county requirement as I understand it is 15 ft. even even a fence that if a if a owner came to us and said I want to put a fence in my backyard it would have to be 7 feet from a lot line but I think the
current planning and zoning requirement is 15 ft >> is it a visual thing is what you I'm just trying to find out what the section is >> it's a in encroachment on the neighbors property in this case it's village on the green and it's also for the neighbors you know you start blocking
views of the open spaces as we call it behind the green space, the retention pond, etc. doesn't belong to us. It belongs to village on the green. But, you know, starting to put structures within 3 ft of the property line is pretty unusual.
>> All right. Um All right. Thank you, >> gentlemen. Any other questions, Mr. Evans? >> Um I know you said that the HOA intends to rescend the decision. Yes. Have you all notified the homeowner of this? So, this is the first time he's hearing this? That is the first time he's heard me. >> Okay. All right.
>> Well, again, our meeting was last Tuesday. I didn't even get on the county website till close to the weekend. So, it's it's been a very last minute thing. >> Okay. >> Mr. >> Oh, I have I have a question, but it
probably goes back to the owner. So, >> okay. >> We'll do that for everybody. >> As do I. Just Okay. >> Find Are there any village of the green um people in here? because it sounds like that's who it's affecting >> is if it's getting up to their fence line and >> we have one more person. We'll see. Oh, yeah.
>> Thank you, sir. Appreciate your time. >> Yes, sir. Please. >> I don't move like I used to. >> None of us do. >> Hi. Hi. I'm Jim Horseman. I'm the executive director at Village on the Green, 500 Village Place, Longwood,
Florida. Um, we're opposed to it primarily because the fear of it setting a precedence and you start with one, you've got homes all lined up and down that what used to be a fairway and you
have two retention ponds that this past hurricane, you know, came close. And so, you know, the fear is that you're setting a precedence. Others will want to be able to do this. is going to from an aesthetic standpoint, it could be detrimental and then also just from a a
safety standpoint. That's really great. >> And I and I don't mean to to pick on you or anything, but >> that's okay. >> I I I'm not quite following the safety concern. Well, you know, god forbid hurricane the retention ponds flood, you
know, if they're closer to that property line, there is the potential that there could be flooding over into that area. >> So, you're you're concerned about the applicant's safety. >> Yeah. >> Gotcha. >> Okay. Any other questions, gentlemen?
>> Uh, actually, I do have one. Um, I'm I'm sorry. I know you said it, but I think I missed it. Who Who are you with uh Bill on the Green? What's your >> I'm the executive director. >> Okay. So, you're all right. Cool. Thank you. >> Okay. All right. Thanks. >> Any other questions? >> I think I am. It was when you left.
>> All right. Uh, anyone else to speak in opposition to the matter? Uh, I think it's only fair then to allow the applicant a rebuttal. Sir, is there anything you'd like to say? >> But I think, uh, Mr. Bigley, do you have a question? >> I'm I'm going to conversate with you guys. So, yeah, I got some things I want to
>> All right, then we'll close the floor. Uh for purposes of discussion, uh the chair will entertain a motion and then we can chat a bit. >> Um I was kind of hoping to have a discussion prior to a motion. Um >> Oh, we can we can make this is fine.
>> I will make a motion right now to deny. >> Okay. Okay. >> All right. Do we have a second? >> Second. All right. So, we have a motion to deny and a second. U Mr. Beley, your your thoughts. >> So, the one thing was sitting over here, Mr. chair is that we always say is it's a jet detrimental in making sure that
the neighbors have their rights for visual rights as well as making sure we've seen lots of lakes and docks and everything under the sun. Um the thing that that gets me is this is over a fairway. This is far away. This is I understand where the tree lines are. I
know this property very well. Um and I not the property, but I know the the community very well. Um, it's it's I heard the safety concern, but that's not really that's not really up for an opposition. That's up to the homeowner
if he feels that his safety is up. So, that's what I'm kind of going back and forth with a little bit. And it's not about ARC, you know, that we don't pay attention to HOAs or ARC's or whatever they say. That's not our business. That's local government. >> So, that's what I'm kind of wrestling with a little bit right now. Um, yeah, I
I heard that it was going to be a little detrimental when it comes to the visual. We've said that before. We've turned down stuff before because of that. Um my suggestion, which I think you have recommended many times, Mr. Chair, before is maybe the homeowner going back
talking to the opposition. Let's delay this for a month. See if the the homeowner would have any appetite to talking to the the neighbors and say, "Okay, what's there already?" It's not about apparently what's there is there, but it's about how can maybe we can work
together. Mhm. >> Um just my opinion, sir. >> Mr. Evans, >> that honestly I was I was hoping um we might have a a motion to table with the applicant's permission. Um because we many of the times in the past we have
said unity of the surrounding neighborhood. Uh and we mean that in terms of people's acceptance is a very large part of our our issue. While we don't follow the arc, if the HOA is saying they intend to rescend and the HOA is upset, the next HOA next to them, the community is saying they're
upset, that doesn't seem like there's unity within the community. And I I think the idea of sending them back and saying, "Listen, I I want to put up a coverage structure. My my son gets to 100 degrees. There may be some fair points for both sides to to come together, and I mean, it costs money to
come here. Um and so you know if we can make it happy for everybody for to move it for a month again applicant has to agree but that would be my recommendation. >> Mr. Wright um my question is is it's
something you asked in the beginning about whether it was covering an existing pad. Um >> and and maybe it's better page 50 I think. >> Yeah I'm on it. >> Can we pull that up? Which I'm sorry, which page?
>> It's the It's the sheet that has the >> the image has the red the red lines around the building. >> There we go. >> The clerk pulled it up. >> Is that it? >> That one. >> Um, yeah, it's close. But yeah, I guess my question and what I probably would
have asked the Apple again is that how big that, you know, on the survey, we can't tell how big the uh existing patio is, but um while it's not 3 feet, you know, I'm not going to try to estimate what it is. It's >> it's uh you know, fairly large. I mean,
I would say it's it's similar in size distance from the side setback to the property line. So, um, >> but also no way of telling when this GIS image was actually >> and that's what I that's what I was trying to establish is >> this pad looks bigger than, you know, um
I think somebody had mentioned 10 ft, you know, when they first looked at it, but um >> Yeah. And and I'm sorry to interrupt you. >> No, no, it's just that, you know, I mean, again, to me that looks like there's it's still it may not be the
exact size that we're seeing in our document. 15 a 15t structure, but I would like to know what that dimension is because to me it, you know, we've we've looked at things where we're covering an existing pad but not expanding it. That would be something
I', you know, discuss. But, >> and that's something the applicant was saying was that it was just, you know, putting in posts. I'm just putting in a couple posts, putting it up, and boom. So, is he not expanding that pattern? It's the same thing you had kind of commented to as well, which is all valid information. >> Yeah. And and when I when I've been
thinking about it, it's, you know, I understand the the association saying that they're going to rescend it, but currently it is vested. It is approved currently. Um I I think this board has always had great respect for when neighbors do not want to change, but the
neighbor the actual neighbors themselves have not shown up. Uh and I can understand a safety concern, but it's a safety concern for the applicant. And I'm not sure >> that car is water. You're right. That's and and and u
>> Yeah. >> So, so I think we we've got a variety of issues here, but I think in in the spirit of what I'll call a supplemental brief. Um sir, if I the applicant, sir, could we would you mind coming back up? And for the record, we're asking the applicant who's already introduced
himself to come back up as as as you've heard us talking here is we we don't Sir, >> we we have a lot of experience where we don't want to say yes or no to something that then will just immediately lead to a fight within a neighborhood. Uh are
are you open to the and and you have the right to stand on your rights also? You you so but are you open to the I because we could just we could take a vote and say yes, no. I don't know how the board will vote, but are you open to the idea of us tableabling the matter to next
month and seeing if you could work something out with your neighbors and with the association to find, you know, a good compromise leaves nobody happy and maybe you guys can work something out. Are are are you open to that idea? >> I'm not close to it. Okay. Yeah, I'm not
close to it, but I don't know what kind of progress you can possibly think would be made because the safety factor >> Mhm. >> the retention pond is 15 ft from the water line, you know, and if it's if that's going to flood, look for the ark.
>> We don't Yeah, the safety side of it is not in our purview. That as a homeowner, that's your >> the neighbors have not had any problem with any of the designs that I've shared with them. And if one I can get them, you know, and if they did, they'd be here, would they not?
I, you know, I I don't know what how they interpret it or what they interpreted. You know, I'm not responsible for that. And if they didn't do it, they didn't do it or they did it incorrectly. But I've incurred substantial expense and time because of that error. And now I'm being further
penalized, I think, because of this. >> Oh, I never had a three-foot set. I don't understand why >> the image behind you, maybe you can clear this up. >> Um, is that current? Is that a current satellite imagery or did does that concrete pad go out further right now? >> It looks current to me.
>> Looks current, sir. Okay. >> Thank you. I know it's hard to tell. >> And the and the patio is about 15 by 18. >> Yeah, >> give or take. And the structure is not going to be an extension of the building. It's going to be two posts and a roof. >> It's a simple cover. Simple. It's not
going to be an eyesore. It's not going to in excuse me interfere with anyone's enjoyment of the back of the house because it's on my property, not their house. >> Okay. >> And it's not that big. And they and if you see the tree line,
it starts there. >> Mhm. >> And it goes up 20 houses. They don't see anything. >> Got you. Thank you, sir. I think it's a big a big much something over nothing quite honestly and somebody just doesn't want to budge but that's my opinion what
do I know >> but thank you for your time gentlemen >> and and you didn't answer our question and I appreciate that >> u I'm not opposite I don't I don't think so >> okay thank you thank you >> okay thank you >> and before we vote just for the the other folks in the audience just so you
know nothing we do has a presidential value someone else could come in and just because we approved this one we might not approve another This this is that's not binding on the county. So just so so you all have that in the back of your heads. So uh our outstanding
motion is to deny. >> All right. Uh do you want that motion to stand for a vote or you want to withdraw it? >> Oh boy. >> Yeah. Let's take a vote on it. We have a motion to deny and it's been seconded. All those in favor? Seeing none. All those opposed?
>> I I >> All right. So the motion fails. Do we have a replacement motion, >> Mr. Chair? Motion to approve. >> We have a motion to approve from the vice chair. Do we have a second? >> Seconded. >> Second from Mr. Evans. Motion to
approve. Seconded. All those in favor? I >> I. >> All those opposed? >> Nay. I >> We're tied. Uh, the motion fails. So, which means the application fails, correct? >> For lack of for lack of a of a mot of of
a successful motion, >> Mr. Attorney. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Yeah. All right, sir. I'm sorry. We the you you do have the ability to appeal this to the county commission if you would like after the meeting or tomorrow. You can contact staff and they'll tell you how to do that. Wish
you luck. Number four, please. Item number four is a request for a rear yard setback variance from 30 feet to 24 feet for lenai in the R1A single family dwelling district in the Eden Preserve subdivision on vacant lot 9, Violent Oak
Court. The proposed lenai will be approximately 343 square ft and will encroach 6 feet into the required rear yard setback. I did receive a phone call from Well, how about we put it on what it's
supposed to be on from the adjacent rear neighbor on A1. Their only concern was that this subdivision is in the process of getting started and the site part of the fence
hasn't been completed yet. And they wanted to know if that was they had no objection to the lenai being put in. So I spoke to her this morning and I told her that I would relay that message to the board. She just wants the fence up and we have our engineering team
inquiring inquiring about that. But this concludes my presentation >> questions for staff. >> The I think it's maybe what you just said, Angie. The variance criteria is blank on my nothing written. Is that what >> No, you go down. They they didn't Oh,
never mind. Disregard. I do have a question, Miss Gates. Um, Madame Clerk, if you could go back to the zoning map. >> Sure. >> And and I and I I'm just now noticing maybe because I'm getting old and blind and there's a large image there, but is that any kind of an easement at that
north edge of the applicant's property? >> Yes, it's a fence e it's a fence and landscape easement. >> That's about how wide, which I know that I'm sorry that might not be a fair question. >> 10 ft. >> Thank you, Rebecca. >> It's 10 feet. >> Okay, >> nice. Gotcha. Thank you. Any any other
questions for staff? Is the applicant here? Come on down. >> Just please share with us your name and address. >> We'll do. >> Good evening. For the record, Rebecca Hammock with Pol. >> We know you. Hey. >> Hi. How are you?
I'm here representing Khof Homes and my uh employment address is 2602 East Livingston Street, Orlando, Florida 3283. And as Angie explained, uh we are requesting a variance from 30 ft to 24
ft um specifically to the LAI only. Um as you can see from the maps that Angie showed, it is somewhat of an irregular shaped lot. So the lot depth is actually shorter on this particular lot than than most of the other lots within the
subdivision. So unfortunately even with their smallest uh housing product, the lenai would not fit on this property and meet the principal uh rear yard setback requirements. So we are requesting the variance for the setback. Um and we do
think there are some unique circumstances in this case um that the irregular lot um size or shape I should say. Um and there should be minimal impact on adjacent property owners. That should not be detrimental um to any of the
existing uh homeowners in the area. Um as there is that 10-foot landscape and fence easement on the north side that is part of this plat. So the lenai would not be visible once that landscape and fence is installed.
Um, the other thing is if the potential lot owner does uh intend to put accessory structures on the lot, those would in fact be closer to the lot line than the than a lenai would be. Um, so with that, we would appreciate your consideration of approval for the
variance and I'd be happy to answer any questions. >> Gentlemen, any questions for the agent for the applicant? >> Um, I have a question. So under some circumstances, you know, there would be um applicant would canvas the adjacent
neighbors to get approval, you know, objections. Um, since I'm assuming this lot is being developed at this point, do do you control or are you representing all of the lots around that that
So, the lot is owned by Kahhoff Homes who is building the entire subdivision. So, they um control who the lots are being sold to. So, there is one from the aerial I can see that one home is being constructed now. Um but the other sort
of um restriction here is that it is a platted subdivision and because the the lots and are being sold, it would be difficult to um change the lot lines at this point. >> No, no, no. Understood. I'm I'm just what I'm asking if the if the lots uh
again, I apologize. I don't know which way north is, but the looking at the lot from the culde-sac, the lot to the left and the lot to the right, um are they sold or does the builder that you're representing, he they own these lots? >> That's correct. They still own those
lots. Yes. >> Thank you. Any other questions, gentlemen? Thank you, ma'am. >> Thank you. >> Is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, your
pleasure. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion to approve by the vice chair. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Mr. Beley. Those in favor? >> I >> opposed. There you go. Well done. Number five. >> Thank you, Mary Robinson for the record.
Number five is a request for one, a rear yard setback variance from 30 ft to 10 ft. And number two, a detach accessory structure size variance from 500 square feet to 731 square feet in the R1A
zoning classification. The subject property is located in the San Lando Estate subdivision and is located 113 Oak Street. The detach accessory structure encroaches approximately 20 ft into the rear yard setback.
Um the accessory structure is approximately 730 one square feet and what would be allowed per code would be approximately 500 square ft as the existing home is approximately 1,000 square ft. So our code does say no
accessory structure shall exceed the primary living area by 50%. There is a code enforcement violation. 23-270 was issued for conversion of an uh existing shed
to a living area. They have since rescended um using that as a living area and are proposing to use it as an office and a gym. The um request um is like I said for a
building to exceed the um allowable um square footage and the rear yard setback variance. And that concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions for staff. >> I'm just want to make sure, Mr. Chair. Thank you.
>> Please. >> I just started talking like you had said I could. Um >> you're the vice chair. Take charge. the in the report I was this there's a code violation or code u enforcement issue with this one already.
>> Yes. >> Um as unpermitted. The the code violation was apparently the shed was existing and it was converted to an accessory dwelling unit and the complaints were that people were living in it and the applicant initially
applied for an accessory dwelling unit but they couldn't uh variances to that but they could not meet the standards of the accessory dwelling unit ordinance. So they dropped back and they converted their request for the setback variance
and for the variance to exceed the um maximum 50% of the living area. Okay. >> And they have stated there will use it for an office and a gym. >> Okay. Um and then the last question I have, it's unrelated to this particular
building on the survey. There's another shed that was there that's basically adjacent or right on the property line. It says 0.1 ft, but um is um was that permitted? I mean, it appears that it
doesn't meet the setback that we would require. >> We we don't check for that and they weren't cited for that. Okay. >> Just want to I'm just asking if there was a previous you know, you probably stated there wasn't, but
thank you. Any other questions? M. Robinson, this this may not be a fair question, but is there a a general idea of around when this thing might have been placed on the property? >> The applicant has stated it was there when they bought the property, but
apparently it's been there for some time. I think as far back as maybe 06 >> which so then let's say the property owner at that time what what were and again this may not be a fair question catching you flatfooted but what were
the rules at the time let's let's say just hypothetically for conversation purposes that is around the right time would the rules at that time have allowed this structure to go by to be erected by right or would they still need a variance >> they would still need the setback
>> variancem Mhm. >> But I don't think the area in quot the area variance would be required. That is relatively new requirements. >> Thought. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Gotcha. Thank you, ma'am. Um, all right then. Is the applicant here? Come on
down, please, sir. >> We have questions. And if you chair with us, please your name and address. >> Yes. Thank you. Good evening. Thank you for letting me know. My name is Jose Castanada. My direction is 113 Oak Street, Alam Spring. >> Thank you, sir. Anything you'd like to
share in addition to what staff had said? >> Uh yes. Uh we we have um we bought this property for my mom and myself uh a couple years ago and when we received the heating like a couple three years later when we realized the problem I
don't know it's problem or not because we don't know about that but uh uh when the magistry was here we try to follow the state in order to resolve any issues. So we go to this way right now the last thing is we put the postcard over there that what do you say and
that's it. I don't know what is the next step for complete everything is approved. Okay. >> Got you. Thank you sir. Gentlemen questions for the applicant. >> I I have you have you chatted sir with your neighbors about this
about what their thoughts are or whether they're okay with it or >> Yeah. I talking about the neighborhood around is no, you know, pretty much. Did you see >> which one would you like? >> Did you see the map? Uh, probably the this one. This one. So, when the
neighborhood is pass around here, sorry. So, it's no affect nobody there because in in the back part, it's only a wall and nothing nothing there. It's like a more natural. There's no nobody there. No affect neighborhood pretty much
>> and also we uh make an amendment for for the place because pretty much my mom and my father is 82. So we try to use the the side to like a gene or something that they can use but pretty much we try to keep the structor for for my father and my mother. >> Mhm. >> Yeah.
>> I got you. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. >> Quick question for staff before I I ask any other supporters. That little, Miss Robinson, that little strip of land that the applicant was discussing that's within the boundaries of the city of
Altoont Springs. What is that? Is that >> I think it's an unopened ride ofway. >> Ah, >> from what I can tell, there is >> I think there is a picture in your packet that might show it. It looks like there's ruts path. >> Yeah. Yeah. We see ruts between the lots.
>> See there? You can see. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Is there anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen,
>> move to approve. >> Have a motion to approve. Is there a second? >> Second. >> There's a second. Is there any desire to chat about this? Anyone have strong feelings? >> Then we'll move to the vote. All those in favor? I opposed.
>> All right. Enjoy, sir. Number six. >> Item number six is a request for a rear yard setback variance in 15 ft to 12 1/2 ft for an addition in the plan development district. The subject
property is located in the Canterbury Cove subdivision and within also the Canberry Cove plan development at 172 Burns Place. This is a proposal for a replacement of an existing screen room
uh that is approximately uh 97 97 square ft total. If you'll look you'll see it's kind of an Lshape. So part the smaller part is 233 square ft and then the larger part's probably approximately 764
square ft. There have not been any prior variances for the subject property. the screen room and the section with the composite roof will replace the existing screen room that was built in 1997. And that concludes my presentation.
>> Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions for staff. >> All right, seeing none, the applicant, anything you'd like to add, sir? >> And please share with us your name and address, please. >> Yes, sir. Good evening. Uh, my name is Joseph Fort at 1400 South Ronald Reagan
Boulevard, Longwood 32750. Um, at this time I have nothing additional to add, but I did want to be present if there's any questions or concerns that I can assist with answering. >> U questions? Just quick one. Have you chatted with your neighbors about what what what we're discussing? >> No, sir.
>> Okay. >> Might help. >> Just one one question. I mean, and when you provided the address, do you is are you the resident here and the are you representing the rep >> representing the screen company applicant? Yes, sir. >> All right. No other questions. That was
easy. Thank you, sir. >> Thank you very much for your time. >> Anyone here to speak in support of the matter? Seeing none, anyone here to speak in opposition? Seeing none, gentlemen, >> move to approve. >> Motion to approve for Mr. Beley. Is there a second? Second for Mr. Wright.
All those in favor? I opposed. >> All right. Number seven. >> Thank you. Number seven is a request for a rear yard setback variant from 10 ft to 4 ft for a swim swimming pool in the R1BB single family dwelling district.
The property is located in the Astro Grand at Lake Forest subdivision at 672 Stone Oak Drive. This is a request to construct a 36.6 uh foot long by 13.6T 6 foot wide swimming pool.
There haven't been any uh prior variances to the property. Uh letter of support was submitted by the next door neighbor located at 668 Stone Oak Drive. And that concludes my presentation. >> Thank you, ma'am. Gentlemen, questions
for staff. Seeing none, is the applicant here? All right. Come on down, please. >> Good evening. I'm Brett Grub. I live at 672 Stone Oak Drive, Sanford, Florida. Thank you, Mr. Grub. Anything you'd like to add to what staff had shared? >> Uh, no. We just want to put in a
swimming pool. We uh bought the house 3 years ago, not the original builders. Uh, the way the backyard where the house is and the backyard, it kind of leaves us less of of a distance between the house and the and the property line, the fence. Although we have plenty of
length, but if if we didn't have to set back, we have like a pool that's like eight or nine feet wide. And we have two kids and they could swim. I don't know. Seems like they get better exercise if it was a little bit bigger pool. All right. Questions for the applicant.
I'm I'm looking at the map here and I see some of your neighbors. I mean, is this going to be in the same theme as your neighbors to your left? >> Oh, absolutely. Yes, sir. >> I saw that, too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none, anyone to
speak in opposition? Seeing none, it's the board's pleasure. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion to approve from Mr. Wright, second by Mr. Beley. All those in favor? I >> opposed. All right. Enjoy your pool, sir. >> We'll wait for the invitations.
>> All right. Last but not least, number eight, please. Number eight is a request for a north sideyard setback from 10 feet to 2 feet for an addition in the R1A single family zoning district. The subject property is located in the
Paradise Point subdivision at 1638 Francis Drive. This proposed addition is approximately 384 square ft and is a part of a overall larger addition that the applicant is proposing to build. The
applicant is stating the portion of this home addition is to be used for covered parking. There haven't been any priv prior variances on the property. I did get one email from a nextoor neighbor with concerns about drainage and this
property owner, the applicant has uh told me that he's discussed the issue with the gentleman next door and they have come to resolution of putting in some gutters and French drains to address any drainage runoff. >> Very good. Thank you, ma'am. Questions
for staff gentlemen? Seeing none of the applicant here. Anything you like you'd like to add, sir? Please come on down. >> Good evening. Uh Nick Ludis, 1638 Francis Drive. Um nothing to add really. Good overview. Um just here for any questions or concerns. As mentioned, uh
I did talk to the neighbor owns both of the properties to the north of me. Uh the one between uh my property and uh the one they're residing at, uh they rent out. Um he was just concerned about drainage. Um, I told him that it would be addressed no problem. We could put in
gutters to the portion of the roof that overhangs the uh the setback and and tie him into some French drains to appease his concerns. So, do you hear for any questions? >> And we have it on the record now. That's great. Any questions for the applicant? All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
>> Anyone in the audience to speak in support of this matter? Seeing none. Seeing nobody. Period. Anyone in the audience to speak in opposition? >> The deputy back there looked interested. >> Deputy Anything you want to share? [Applause] >> All right, seeing none, it's the board's pleasure.
>> Move to approve. >> Motion to approve for Mr. Beley. Is there a second? >> Second from Mr. Right. All those in favor? >> I opposed. All right. Good luck with it, sir. >> Thank you, guys. >> All right, that is our regular agenda. The board will entertain a motion
regarding the minutes. >> Move to approve. >> A motion to approve the minutes. Is there a second? We have a second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> All right. Thank you. We are adjourned. >> Good night, South Florida.
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