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ahead and get started. Uh it it is 1:32 p.m. on April 24th, 2025. And welcome to the Simble County Code Enforcement Board meeting for the month of April. Uh can we start
by having Madame Clerk do roll call, please? Dennis Warren here. Katherine Townsen here. Mike Simon here. Dudley Bates here. Craig Davis here. For the record,
Don Peterson is not present. Evette here. Thank you. Uh I'm going to go ahead and give some information to everyone here and then we'll get started right after I explain this. Uh good afternoon
again. Welcome again to the April 24th, 2025 hearing of as county code enforcement board. Before we begin, I'd like to advise everyone about the procedures that govern appearances before the Code Enforcement Board. This meeting is open to the public under Florida Government and Sunshine Law.
Therefore, every effort will be made to hear all persons having relevant evidence or arguments to offer. It is required. Uh where where was Sorry. It's required that every person who appears before the code
enforcement board be registered with the clerk. The cases where the respondents are present and signed in will be heard first. You you will be sworn in or affirmed by the clerk. Once all cases where the respondents are present have been heard, the code enforcement board
will hear hear the remaining cases as they appear on the agenda. When your case is called, please be se seated at the table reserved for the respondents. The county will present their case and then the respondents will be allowed to present their case. Additionally, please
limit your comments to only relating to this particular case. Each party may question witnesses offered on behalf of the other party. Additionally, staff members may question those appearing before the code enforcement board. The board will make their decision based on
the evidence and testimony presented by both parties. All proceedings before the code enforcement board are electronically recorded. Please speak directly into the microphone at the center of the table and state your name clearly before presenting your case. Should you need assistance due to a
hearing impairment or language barrier, please inform the clerk upon registration. All cell phones or other electronic devices are to be turned off or silenced while inside the chambers. Thank you for your
cooperation. We Let's uh we will go ahead now and I ask you to stand for a pledge of allegiance to be followed by the swearing in of witnesses. So please stand. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Please remain standing if you're going to be testifying today in any manner. Raise your right hand so the clerk can swear
you in here. Do you solemnly swear or affirm if the testimony you're about to give is the truth? Thank you. I'm going to recommend that we uh revise the agenda as I had mentioned so that we can cover the uh the folks that are here
first. And let me give you the order that I'm suggesting. See if we get a motion for that. We would begin uh with on page one uh case number 25-28 CEB Jerry W. Cordet
200 Crooked Oak Court, Longwood, Florida 32779. Followed by the companion case, the same respondent, the same address. That case is 25-29 CEB. And then when we get those two
done, it'd be followed on page four, case number 25-33, CEB, Winner, Williams, Dollar Sanford, Florida 32771. After that, we would hear case
number 25-34, CEB, Linda J. Smith, 173 Juel Drive, Alimont Springs 32714. then to be heard by uh three cases beginning on page five
and then page six uh that are related to the same respondents. First case would be 25-35 CB Mabel Hill, Harry Hill, Bernice Bernice McKini Air and Cheryl M.
Hardy, 2054 Cypes Avenue, Sanford, Florida 32771. It has two companion cases with it. Same respondents, same address. Uh, one of them is 25-36 CEB. The other one
is 25-37 CEB. Do I have a motion to revise the agenda to hear those cases first, then to be followed by the remaining cases? So moved. Motion. Motion by Mr. debate, second by Miss Townsen. All in
favor say I. I. Motion carries. So, that's what we're going to do. We're going to back up to that first case that I read. There's actually uh two cases for this respondent. Uh and also a dare, you can present them together. If uh
starting with case number 25-28 CB, Jerry W. Cordet, if you're here for that case, please step up. 200 Cad Oak Court, Longwood, Florida, 32779. Okay. And we will then hear
25-29 CEB. Uh same respondent, same address. Sir, as I said, he's going to present both cases. Apparently, there's two possible violations. Then we'll give you the opportunity to address both of those. And Mr. Adair, whenever you're ready, you can go.
[Applause] Code enforcement officer Cameron Adair, Sl County Sheriff's Office, South Region. This is case number 2528 CEB. Respondent is Jerry W. Cordet. I'd like to submit a copy of this PowerPoint presentation to the clerk. Is it exhibit
A? The property is located at 200 Crooked Oak Court in Seml County, Florida. The violation charge seml county land development code chapter 30 part 14 section 30.14.19 L fences all fences shall be maintained in their upright original
condition. The initial inspection took place on January 7th, 2025. Notices to respondents were January 15th and January 30th, 2025 with compliance dates set for January 29th and February 14th, 2025. Follow-up
inspections were January 29th through yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. The results are the violation of dilapidated defense remains on subject property. This is a image from my initial inspection on January 7th. The
fence is leaning over. Follow-up inspection on January 29th. You can see the left photo has a holes in the fence. And then on the right, it seems he tried to prop it back up, but it is still not upright
fully. Uh follow-up inspection on February 17th. Uh same thing. It was attempted to be corrected, but not fully. This is the date I received the green card, March 28th,
2025. And this is yesterday's follow-up inspection. You could still see im or you can still see holes in the fence and another panel that's not fully upright. The suggested recommendation by me is based on testimony and evidence presented in the case number 2528 CEB.
It is determined that the respondent Jerry W. core debt is the owner of record of property located at 200 Crooked Oak Court located in Seml County as determined by the property appraisers records is in possession or control of the property and is in violation of seminal county land development code
chapter 30 part 14 section 30.14.19 L fences is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondent to correct the violation on or before midnight of May 9th 2025 in order To correct the violation,
the respondent must remove or repair the dilapidated fence to its original upright condition. If the respondent does not comply with the order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This this concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions
officer Adair on this particular case? Seeing none, officer Adair, if you want to move to the second case. Yeah. Code enforcement officer Cameron Adair, Soma County Sheriff's Office, South Region. This is case number
25-29-C. The respondent is Jerry W. Cordet. would like to submit a copy of this PowerPoint presentation to the clerk. 668 A. The violation is located at 200 Crooked Oak Court, Seml County, Florida. Violation charged SEL County Code
Chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3G unsecured swimming pool. Initial inspection was on January 7th, 2025. Notices to respondent were on January 15th and January 30th, 2025, and
compliance dates were set for January 29th and February 14th, 2025. Follow-up inspections were January 29th through yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. The results are the unsecured pool remains on subject property.
So, this is these are images from my initial inspection showing that the pool is in the backyard and the gate leading to it is just left wide open and not up to code in the first place. It's not self-closing, self-latching. Follow-up inspection on
January 29th depicts the same thing. Pool in the backyard, the gate remains open. Uh follow-up inspection February 17th. Same images. The gate remain. I believe the gate's closed in that photo. Um but
it's not self-closing or this is a date I received the green card. And this is yesterday's follow-up inspection. The gate it remains wide open and the pool is in the backyard. The suggested recommendation is based on
the testimony and evidence presented in case number 2529 CB, it is determined that the respondent Jerry W. Cordet is the owner of record of property located at 200 Crooked Oak Court located in Semol County as determined by the property appraisers records is in possession or control of the property
and is in violation of seminal county code chapter 95 section 95.4 4 as defined in 95.3G unsecured swimming pool. It is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondent to correct the violation on or before midnight of May 9th, 2025. In order to correct the
violation, the respondent must secure the pool by surrounding it with a fence or barrier at least 48 in in height above the finished ground level. Ensure the gates and doors and such barriers are self-closing and self lashing. and ensure the release mechanism is located on the pool side of the gate. If the
respondent does not comply with the order, a fine of $250 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions? Officer Derek sign. Because uh this u property has a pool in
the back, that means the fence is required, correct? He can't just take down the fence. And can you describe because the pictures did not seem like they were all that wonderful. Is there a gate at all between the two large brick
column posts? And what deficiencies, if so, does it have it? There is a gate. It's like an metal aluminum, however you call it, and it swings open and just stays open. So, it doesn't have the
self-closing, self-latching that we require. I'm unsure of if the pool the latch is on the pool facing side to open the gate, but it does meet the height requirement of 48 in. How do you go about
determining what type of latch mechanism that it has? Why wasn't that done? I've only taken or I've only stepped on the property once. All my pictures have been from a neighboring property or public right of
road or right away. Thank you, officer. Did I read that correctly that this has been going on for 3 months? They've been aware that this is unsecured and unsafe. Yes. Thank you. Any other
questions? Seeing none, uh sir, if you can speak. Let me get your name first. My name is Jerry Cordet. Thank you. And you're the property owner, right? Okay. Yes, I am. Okay, this is your opportunity. We got two issues here. We've got the fence issue and the uh unsecure pool. So, that's what we're
looking at today. First of all, this is reported by harassing neighbor that's been harassing me the whole time. I think this is very unreasonable. Uh that fence I'm it's it's going to be taken down. I had to get permission from the HOA to take it down. I have my slip here. I can't just take it down without the pool being enclosed. They're going
through it right now. They said I cannot take that gate down until we close that pool. I got contracted and put the uh gate up as far as a pool. Now, I did not receive anything from Mr. Adair until I got the certified copies. That's why I respond. I called him out to my property. Hey, what's going on here?
What are you talking about? Had no photos, no complaints. Okay. Harassing neighbor. Okay. Now, here here's here's where I stand with this. I'm taking the fence down. I don't have to have a fence there. So, like I told uh uh Mr. uh well, my neighbor, we have a zoo back
there. We got bears and deer and we have own private zoo. That's fine with me. I'm taking it down. I cannot take it down until I put the metal fence around the pool. That's I need time to do that. All right. Secondly, on the um on the gate issue, I have I have uh a member of
my family that has Parkinson's. They have to go through that gate. They can't go through that gate. They barely walk. That's why it's open. I was asked not to close it. I explained that to Mr. Dair. I said, "The reason why it's open, I have someone in my in my household that has Parkinson's. He's tripped twice."
Okay. So that that's why it's open. Otherwise, it would be closed. I explained to him we'll get the pool and closed when we do that. Now, I'm I just you look at the notice here. I signed it on where was it? Uh my sign certified copy. I called him immediately out to my house. What's going on? I haven't seen anything from him at all. Period. Okay.
I will prove you sent me notice. I don't have a picture at all of anything. Now, that stuff he's showing here has been corrected temporarily until we get permission from HOA to put that gate around the pool. Then all that fence is coming up. I'm not going to spend any more money on that fence. has been a problem since I got in there. Uh, since
you've been complaining, complaining. I I've replaced it several times. Bears come through there, deer. It's a zoo back there. I can't keep up with I work every day, you know. I got time to be I can't even see the fence. You can't even see the fence from the street. I didn't know there was anything wrong with the fence. You showed it to me. I said,
"Let's try to correct it. I've got picture there on my cell phone. You pass it up temporarily until the HOA board gives me permission to put my fish around the pool." And I'm tired of being harassed. I really am. So those issues there. The fence is really not. It's old. I mean, half the fences in that
neighborhood are old and falling down. Okay. So, I elected to take it down. I'm tired of it. I'm not going to put any more money in that fence. It's expensive. I rather put uh the enclosure around the gate. That solves the problem. The gate that's open is going to stay open. That gentleman has he barely walk. So, we close the pool.
We're fine. That's it. It's going to stay open cuz his safety is is my concern right now. I mean, he's he's fallen twice out there cuz he can't push that. and he asked me, "Please don't close that gate." That's the only reason why it's open because he's he he's he has Parkinson he can barely walk and he's fallen twice. Okay. So that that's
why I stand with it and I that that that's that's what it is. Now as far as that fence and I told him there yesterday, the fence has been, you know, semi-repair. I have pictures of it. Go on to my property and take a look. You can't see it from that side of the fence. You got to go on my property and take a look. He didn't do that. I called him out. I called him out. Was it
yesterday? And I called him on a cell phone. Hey, are you there? Yes. Go on the property. you've got my permission to go on and take a look at what we did on the fence. And he didn't do I can't go out. Well, you sure can. I give you permission. For some reason, he didn't want to do that. But it's it's it's it's corrected until we get the pool fence,
the pool surrounded by the fence. So, that that's where I stand with this. Thank you. Uh you saw the date, the recommended date, May 4th, which is the recommendation to have both these things fixed. What's your position? I'm not.
Well, here's that's unreasonable. That time frame is sure. I have to get contracted. We got to find somebody to do it. The HOA has to approve it. They take so much time to get it approved. I was told do not touch anything until we approve that fence. I said that's fine. That's what I'm waiting on. Now, as soon as they approve it, I can put the fence in there. Okay. So, it's not it's not
something I I'm personally neglecting and I comply. I'm trying to comply with it, but it's got to be a reasonable amount of time. So, I I have the I have the the paperwork I filed with them on uh April the 1st. Okay. as far as me filing said, "Well, that's fine. We have to go." The board has meetings. They got
to go through the whole uh uh uh board situation to approve that fence. I can't just I can't just put a fence out there. Okay? And once the fence is around the pool, I will move that. I'm going to take the whole g all the gates. So, I have any more problem with with this nonsense cuz it's harassing. It's what
it is. And he couldn't see it from I couldn't see it from the street. The neighbor next door has been complaining and complaining for no reason. I says, I mean, well, first of all, why is it my gate? It it serves both of our purposes. It divides both yards up. How is it my gate? And and I asked her, I said, "Look, can you participate? Why don't we
just put a gate up together and you go have I go have I want to do that? It's unreasonable." So, since it's my gate, I'm taking it down. Yes, sir. Mr. Bates, sir, has your pool been basically open for 3 months? Uh, yes. That's why I
thought the house was like that. Why? Yeah. Why? Why? Because I mean just the pool's open. That's where I bought the house. It's it's open. Okay. There's no screen. It cover. The pool is open. It's open. Right. It was built like that. Correct. For 3 months and you've done
nothing about it except now apply to the homeowners association. No. No. That's not true. Problem is, you know, the complaining comp it's it's been like that since the house was built in 74. You tell me now it's a problem. No. So
what I told him, I said, "I'm going to enclose a pool as soon as I get permission to do so to do that." And no one's ever brought to my attention about a pool being enclosed up until now. So I've I bought that house in 200 I'm sorry, was it um 18? I've never had a problem with
anybody. And Carter Force has been out there before. No one say anything about open pool. Now for that reason was a back gate of air knocked down which I repaired. You can't even see it. Sir, I'm very hardressed to understand a plausible reason why
your pool has been open and exposed to possibly somebody coming in explain it to you in that pool to a very bad end. And I I I don't
I'm Well, if someone comes, I'm missing the plausible reason why that should be. Well, here's the thing. Like I just told you I bought the the house is like it's been like that for 50 years, obviously. Okay. So, I've never had a problem before with any of this nonsense. I mean, the neighbors been complaining. They haven't the pool's never been an
issue at all. The pool, the record, it's never been a problem up until now. So, here's the thing about everything. I'm I'm trying to explain myself. Let me talk and I I I'll explain it to you. It's that way. It was brought that way. I was never brought to my attention that I had to have enclosure which I don't have to have have a fence around it. If
someone's on my property without my permission they're trespassing. They shouldn't be in their first place but like I said that pool and I talked to HOA says well okay we we we'll we'll give the board we'll talk about that and give you you know a permission to put a gate around it. This is the first I've heard about this. So that that's why
it's like this. I got to have opportunity to fix it. It didn't happen overnight. I got I got to have pull a permit or something I got to do. I talked to HOA and said, "Okay, we'll we'll give the board will we'll hear this and we'll give you whatever you need as far as putting that fence back up." I'll put the fence around the pool.
Mr. Simon, if you're if you want to continue, I'll wait. No, go ahead. Mr. Mr. Dair, you have the u the certified uh letter receipt that you showed in the display. Can you tell me what the date on that
is, please, sir? So that's April 1, correct? Okay. So we know for a fact that he's known March 2nd 27th. It was 27th. April letter. It was signed on March 27th by Mr. Cordet. Okay. So So we know he's known about
this problem for just short of 30 days. Correct. Correct. And when he contacted you, um, can you describe for us what happened there? Cuz he's saying he wanted you to go on the property even as as soon as yesterday. So when he initially got the certified mail, he
contacted me. I got back with him within 3 days, I believe, and we set up a meeting to come inspect the property. I showed him along the fence line, him and his neighbor share, what what specifically I was looking at, the holes in the images, uh, the dilapidated fence, etc.
And I also told him that the gate needs to be self-closing, self-lashing. Then he asked me if if he encloses the pool if that would suffice like with baby gate or the proper secured terminology, pool fence, whatever it is, and tore
down the fence if that was an option. I said, "As long as the pool is secured, you can take down the entire fence just as long as the pool is properly secured." He said, "Okay, no problem." And that is the last I heard of him until Monday when he left me a voicemail and I reinspected yesterday.
So did he give you permission to go on the property and and and you did not? Yes. I did not feel it was fruitful for me to step onto his property when I could observe the violations from the complainant or neighbor property. Okay.
U question um for you sir. Uh, have you shown these plans for a fence to anyone? And you know, have you This is the HOA. The day they came out, I went down to HO. You can take this. Whoever come get
it. On that same day, I went down to get permission to move that f to do my my work. Um, oh, you can keep that. That's fine. I don't need that. Okay. That same day, I went to HOA and I said, "Look, I got to take care of this fence. I got to put up closure." They said, "Fine." I said, "What I need to do?" I fill that out.
Some simple removal fence. Um, put the new whatever around it. Said, "Well, you can't do anything until we hear it and the board approves." I said, "That's fine. I'll wait on that right now." And do we know when this board meeting is? Um, they meet every I forgot every 30 or 40 days. They have certain meetings
where they approve certain things. So, it's going to be that's April 1st. It's what we're in April 20. Yes, about about 30 or so days I think it is that I'll get an approval to uh fix the to be to be able to take the fence down and to put the pool enclosure up. So I can't
move I can't do anything now until they tell me to see this. Okay. Okay. So you you don't have the board meeting date or any evidence that says this will be on the agenda. That would be the first thing they'll talk cuz I I I talked to them. So yeah, it'll be within that period of time. So they'll they'll send
you a letter saying whatever. So yeah, I don't have any more questions, Miss Towns. And I Well, I was going to say I've never heard of an HOA not agreeing to an emergency meeting for something that has been Well, it has been documented as a code violation for
county code. Um, as far as I'm concerned, I'm ready to make a motion. I have a couple questions. Yeah, sure. I Hold on, sir. Okay. uh partways through your testimony, you made a comment, "I'm going to fix it.
This just isn't reasonable." This board is here today to decide what to do, and I would strongly suggest you come up with some sort of date that you think might be reasonable. Uh we're not, but it might be in your best interest. So, what do you think's reasonable to get
this done? As soon as they approve me a date to put the fence up, let's let's say 30 days. I'm not sure exactly when they're going to meet. I talked to him. He says, "Look, we have meetings, you know, periodically." If you look at the date and look at the date that signed it, that's the day I went over there and talked to him about it. I said, "Hey,
I'm I'm, you know, this code enforcement thing. What do I need to do?" He says, "Well, I want to put a pool like I told Mr. Dear. I'll take the gate down. I don't want to violate another code. What?" And and I told him, "I got to put a put some kind of a closure around the pool." They said, "That's fine, but you can't do that. The board has it here. They have some whatever board they have
to go through." I said, "That's fine. let me know when I can take this gate apart and move it and put the and put the um the gate. Now, you may have never heard of H doing that, but they do do that. This one does. They're very strict out there. Said, "We got to have everything has to be approved." And it was an emergency meeting. They just
said, "Hey, we're going to hear it." And I told them whatever their next meeting is going to be, they're going to hear that and then they will uh give me permission to move the fence and to put a a pool gate up. So, are you requesting 30 days that you feels reasonable? I think so. Yeah, Dr. I think they're
going to hear that probably within this month. They'll let me know. Then I have 30 days. I I can get get that fixed cuz I I already I already called uh pool fence guys who put you know whatever around it. So I'm just waiting. They're waiting for them to give me okay to put the fence up. Mr. Officer Adair
never came back to you. He shotguned a lot of stuff at us. Do you have anything you'd like to add? I think we sort of heard about if you're welcome because he was talking uh you know different things. Are you good with where you're at? I'm good with where I stand. Okay. Okay. I don't have any more questions if
anybody else does or if there's a motion. My concern is mostly I think the gate. Um are we going to leave this gate open for 30 more days? We don't I mean I can I can close the gate. Sir, go ahead. Sorry. I mean,
according to the testimony, we're going to leave this gate open in perpetuity. Yeah, right. He's going to take it down is what I understood. Right. I'm going to take it down as soon as I get permission to put the other gate up. But the reason why, as I explained before, why the gate is open. The only reason why cuz a member of that household, my
household has Parkinson's and they fall in twice. He says, "Please don't close that gate. I can't get through it." I said, "Okay, that's fine." And I explained that to Mr. Adair when he came out. I didn't tell you to explain that to you. Correct. Yeah. So, I that's the only reason why it's open. As soon as I'm able to put that pool gate um around
the pool they give me clearance, I will do so. Okay. That's the only reason why the gate is open. Let me just say because you keep and I feel for the the situation you have with the Parkinson's. I I get it. I I've got a sister all over the same thing with with However, there's other people at risk with that
gate being open that can fall in just as quick as the the individual with Parkinson's. I just that doesn't strike a chord with me. Uh, so I dealt with a personal situation myself and you can call him a trespasser, you can call what you want, but the next door neighbor
fell in and drowned in the pool and this trespasser was four years old. So you keep saying that I Yeah. Yeah, I understand. Uh, thank you board. Uh, whatever. I'm going to uh make the motion that we
go with um the officer's recommendation with the caveat that we make it May 1st. I think that since he signed his green card on March 27th, he's had plenty of time to make the arrangements for this. And I I personally know that HOAs
will give you an emergency meeting to accommodate something of this nature. And I don't think a month is reasonable. So, I would make that motion for it to be effective May the 1st. I'll second that motion by Miss Towns and second by Mr. Bates to accept staff's recommendation. Let me back up.
We're talking about the first case which is the I thought we were voting on everything together. I think they have to do it separate, don't we? Or that's fine. I mean separate. Well, you can make your motion for each of them and just Okay. Then that's for the uh 25-28
defense. Okay. 25-28 CB. Uh and the motion is to find there was is a violation fenced uh to that issue to be uh uh corrected by May 1st or
uh the $100 a day fine is a recommendation on that one. Okay. Uh motion by Miss Towns, second by Mr. Bates. All in favor say I. Opposed? No. And by Mr. Simon the second. Did you
have a motion or is it same motion? I have the same motion for 25-29. Is there a second on that? Yes. Second. Motion by Miss Towns and second by Mr. Bates on case number 25-29 CEB. This is
the unsecured swimming pool. Motion is find there is a violation needs to be corrected by May 1st or fines of $250 a day will begin. All in favor say I. I. No. and uh no by Mr. Simon. Motion
carries three to one. Sir, that's what we've done. You've got till May 1st on both of those. And uh may I say something? That's four to one. Okay. Just so you're clear. Oh. Okay. Can Can I say something, please? Uh no reason. We're moving on
to Sir, you can talk to the code enforcement officer. He'll help you out when I'm saying you're aware put up, right? That's unreasonable. Next case 33B winner or Winer Williams Dollarway
Sanford Florida 32771 and officer Henson will be presenting this one. Uh excuse me. Can I have this in writing please? Are we out of here? You'll get a copy of the order sir.
Okay. What's this? This is uh here. All right. Thank you. Before we start, if you could present your names, please. My name is uh William Lowry. I'm sorry. William William Lowry. Lowry. Yes, sir.
Mhm. And mine is Raymond Williams. Raymond Williams. And you're W is right here. Oh, and that I'm sorry. I'm the husband. Winner Williams. Winner. Okay. And sir, how are you related to she's the property owner? She's the son. I'm the son. That's the
son. I'm the dad. That's the wife. Got it. Thank you. Uh, okay. We'll get moving along here. Officer Henson, whenever you're ready. Siml County Sheriff's Office Code Enforcement Shannon
Henson case number 2533 CEB Winner Williams. For the record, I want to uh submit a copy of the presentation to the clerk. 25-33 CEB Winter Williams 30 uh dollar
the violation charge seminal county land development code chapter 30 part 5 section 30.5.2 two usees permitted. Storage on a vacant parcel is not a permitted use in an R1 zoning district. The initial inspection was
December 5th, 2024. Uh respondents notice of respondence was December 9th, 2024 and uh January 9th, 2024. Compliance date was December 24th, 2024. and the second one uh second compliance
date was January 24th, 2025. Follow-up inspections were um January 3rd, 2025, February 11th, 2025, March 10th, 2025, April 14th, 2025, and April 23rd, 2025. The results
of the follow-up inspection storage of violation the storage violation remains on the vacant parcel. This uh image was taken on my initial inspection in December 5th, 2024. This is the same day
also. This was January 3rd, 2025. And this is February 11th, 2025 and March 10th, 2025. And this was when I posted it on April 14th, 2025.
And this one was taken yesterday um by myself and again from yesterday. The s excuse me the suggested recommendation by the code enforcement officer is based on the testimony and evidence presented in the case number
25-33-EB. It is determined that the respondent winner Williams is the owner of property of the record located at Dollar Simol County as determined by the property appraisers records in possession or control of the property and is violation of the seminal county
land development code chapter 30 part 5 section 30.5.2 and it's further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondents to correct the violation on or before midnight of May 8th 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondents must remove
the storage from the vacant parcel. If the respondent does not comply with the order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. The respondents may contact myself for uh to arrange an inspection to verify that the
property is in compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions for officer Henson? Seeing none, uh this is your opportunity. you saw the violation. Uh the recommendation is to have it corrected by May 8th or there'll be a
$100 a day fine uh that would be imposed. That's what we're looking at. Go ahead, folks. That's fine, sir. I got a picture I took today. We got to move a car and a jet ski off the property and that'll be it. Excuse me. Could you move
your microphone closer to you? I'm having trouble hearing you. kind of um we I took a picture of property the day before I came in. Yeah. Don't don't show the phone because then they have to put it into the record. So don't show her the phone. Okay. What you say? Just
talk. Don't show her your phone. Okay. I got a I took um I took a picture today. Well, I got a picture now and tomorrow we'll move the car, jet ski, and the boat trailer and she can come by and take another picture. Yes, sir.
So, so you believe that you would be able to comply with the May 8th date that's being given? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. We have clean it up. All that what you seen on the uh pictures, everything clean. She been riding by and checking. All that stuff gone except the
car. Keep going. Go to the yesterday picture. The car is still there and the jet ski in the back is still there. And the boat trailer is still there. Now, that piece of concrete in the front, do I have to remove that? No, that's
permanently there. Okay. May 8th is good enough time to be removed. Any other questions? Seeing none, uh, nothing else to add. Officer Hansen, you're good. Okay. Uh,
yes, Mr. I'll move that we accept staff's recommendation with a compliance date of May 8th. I'll second that motion by Mr. Sign and second by Miss Townsen accept staff's recommendation putting a compliance date of May 8th on it or a fine of $100 per day will be imposed.
All in favor say I. I opposed. That's what we've done. Uh sounds like you're heading there. Thank you for what you've done so far. Uhhuh. Uh next case is right below that one. Case number 25-34 CEB Linda J.
Smith, 137 Jewel Drive, Alimont Springs, 32714. If you're here for that case, please step to the table. And once you get comfortable there, if I can get your name in relationship to the case. Linda Smith.
Thank you. I took a picture before I came in. Just don't say it. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Whenever you're ready there. enforcement officer Cameron Adair, Selma County Sheriff's Office, South Region. This is case number 25-34-CEB. The respondent is Linda J. Smith. Would like to submit a copy of this PowerPoint presentation to to the
clerk as exhibit A. The violation is located at 137 Jewel Drive, Seml County, Florida. The violation charge seml county code, chapter 95, section 95.4 as defined in 95.3A. Rubbish. My initial inspection was on
December 12th, 2024. Notices to respondent were January 3rd and January 21st, 2025 with compliance dates set for January 20th and February 5th, 2025. Follow-up inspections were January 2nd through yesterday, April 23rd,
2025. The results are the rubbish violation remains on subject property. This is our images from my initial inspection on December 12th, 2024. Uh, you can see the tree debris in the right photo and in the left under
the carport is a bunch of miscellaneous items and rubbish. This is a follow-up inspection on January 2nd. You could see that the uh tree debris in the right have been removed, but the rubbish under the carport
remains. Follow-up inspection on January 21st. The pile of rubbish under the carport remains. This is another follow-up inspection on February 5th. It has been reduced, but the rubbish
remains. Follow-up inspection in February 21st. Same conclusion. This is the date of the green card. I received it on March 31st. This is a follow-up inspection yesterday. The rubbish has been reduced, but it still remains.
The suggestive recommendation is based on testimony and evidence presented in case number 25 to 34 CB. It is determined that the respondent Linda J. Smith is the owner of record of property located at 137 Juel Drive located in Seml County as determined by the property appraisers records is in
possession or control of the property and is in violation of Seml County code chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3A rubbish. It is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondent to correct the violation on
or before midnight of May 9th, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondent must remove the rubbish from the property. If the respondent does not comply with the order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each state the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my
presentation. Thank you. Any questions or dare? Mr. Simon? Yes. Um, if this uh homeowner were to um put up like tarps on the two sides that are exposed, would that still be a code violation? Like if you couldn't
see from the street the rubbish. Am I allowed to answer that? I don't think so. It's still a violation. Thank you. Any other
questions? Ma'am, uh thank you for being here today. This is your opportunity to speak uh to what we're looking at. You saw the recommendation is to give you a compliance date of May 9th and then fines of $100 a day would be imposed. So May 9th is good. I've uh took a picture
this morning, but it's on my phone. I didn't get a chance to make a copy, but the whole I have the whole area cleared out now. And there's just like a quarter of it
left to for me to work on. But I like to know exactly what am I allowed to have on my cardboard. That man right there will be the one to tell you. And when the case is over, he can talk in. I would I'm getting ahead
of myself, but you strongly suggest you call him out when you think you're done to look at it and yeah before but in any case I mean like I said I've got it only a quarter of the stuff left cuz I unfortunately you know how it is
when you're going through stuff you see this you got to look at it and read it and throw it away. I just wanted to throw stuff away is why it's taking me this long. Thank you. You You do believe that you
can comply with this May 9th date? Oh, yeah. I'm in the mood to throw stuff away. You must know my wife. I'm I'm on a run here and I want to go with it and I just throw everything away I can find.
Thank you. And at first I thought it was my van because it's been sitting there for a long time and the guy across the street's been wanting to buy it. So, I sold it to him so I could get rid of the van there, too. So, I'll have it all cleared out.
Any other questions or motion? I move that we accept staff's recommendation uh with a date of compliance date of May 9th or a fine of $100 per day. Second. Motion by Mr. S and second by Mr. debates to accept this recommendation
finding that there is a violation accept recommendation giving a compliance date of May 9th or $100 a day fine would be imposed. All in favor say I. I post. That's what we've done. Uh just get with him as I said. Probably the sooner the better. Give you a little cushion. Thank
thank you for what you've done so far. We recognize that and we appreciate you coming in today. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Next case is uh looks like there's three companion cases on this same property. We'll start with 25-35 CEB Mabel Hill, Harry Hill,
Bernice McKenna, comma error and Cheryl M. Hardy. Address is 2054 Snipes Avenue, Sanford, Florida 32771. That'll be followed by 25-36 CEB,
followed by 25-37 CEB. This is Officer Henson again. So whenever, as a matter of fact, I want to figure out who we got here once they get seated. Whoever might be speaking today, if you could identify by name who you are in your relationship
to the case. Uh I'm Russell McKenna. I'm Bernice McKinn's air. Okay. Mr. McKenna needs to get sworn in. Mr. McKenna, you'll need to be sworn in just a minute. Ma'am, were you your name, please? Cheryl Hardy. Were you need to be sworn in, too? No, I've been
sworn. Okay. Mr. McKenna, could you stand up? raise your right hand. The clerk will swear you in when she gets a moment. Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. We'll come to you in a moment. We're going to hear
the uh the three cases from Officer Henson and then uh we'll we'll let you address those. Officer Henson, whenever you're ready, we'll start with 25-35 CB. Seminal County Sheriff's Office Code
Enforcement Shannon Henson case number 25-35-CEBB Mabel Hill Harry Hill Bernice McKini Air and Cheryl M. Hardy. For the record, I'm going to ex uh submit a copy of the presentation to
the clerk. Exhibit one. Uh this is Mabel uh this sorry this violation is at 2054 Cypes Avenue Sanford Florida. The charge uh violation charge is Simol County chapter 95 95.4 as defined in
95.3B uncultivated vegetation. The initial inspection was September 21st, 2024 with follow with the first notice in September 13, 2024 with the follow-up one October 3rd,
2024. Compliance dates were September 30th, 2024, and October 16th, 2024. The follow-up inspections were October 2nd, 2024, October 28th, 2024, January 3rd,
2025, and April 23rd, 2025. The violation of uncultiv uncultivated vegetation remains on the subject property. This was taken by myself, an initial uh inspection September 12th, 2024. And this one was taken by my
sergeant, Sergeant Worthington, October 2nd, 2024. And this was taken by myself October 28th, 2024 and January 3rd, 2024. I mean 25, I'm sorry. And this was taken um
yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. The suggested recommendation by the code enforcement officer is based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number 25-25 CEB. It is determined that the respondents Mabel Hill, Harry
Hill, Bernice McKenna Er, and Cheryl M. Hardy are the owners of the property located at 2054 Cypes Avenue located in Seminal County as determined by the property appraisers in a possession or control of the property and is in violation of seminal county code chapter
95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3b. and is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondents to correct the violation on or before midnight of May 8th, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondents must remove
all uncultivated vegetation in excess of 8 in in height from the property. If the respondents do not comply with the order, a fine of $50 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. The respondent must contact myself for to
arrange an inspection to verify the of compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions? Officer Hansen for sheet. Yeah, Mr. S. Can we go back to the last slide, the yesterday? So, we're basic are we basically
a what we're looking at on the in on the photo that's on uh my left is the vegetation that's backed by the tree. This is the extent of the violation currently. Is everything else correct? The backyard's still on. Yeah. Thank you.
And no other questions. You can start on the second case which would be 25-36 CB. Seminal County Sheriff's Office Code Enforcement Shannon Henson. This case is 25-36-CEBB Maple Hill, Harry Hill,
Bernice McKenna Air, and Cheryl M. Hardy are the respondents. This property is 20 54 Cypes Avenue. The violation charged with Simol County, Chapter 95, section 95.4 is defined in 95.3A rubbish. The initial inspection
was September 21st, 2024. The first notice was September 13, 2024 and the second notice was October 3rd, 2024. Compliance day is September 30th, 2024, and October 16th, 2024. Follow-up
inspections are October 2nd, 2024, October 28, 2024, January 3rd, 2025, and April 23rd, 2025. The follow-up inspection, the rubbish uh violation remains on the property. This picture was taken by
myself uh September 12th, 2024 and October 2nd, 2024 by my Sergeant Worthington. And this was taken by myself October 28th, 2024 and January 3rd,
2025. And this was taken uh myself yesterday, April 4th uh sorry, April 23rd, 2025. The suggested recommendation by the code enforcement officer based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number
25-36 CEV is it's determined that the respondent Mabel Hill, Harry Hill, Bernice McKenna Air, and Cheryl Emma Hardy are the owners of the property record of the property located at 2054 Cypes Avenue located in Simol County determined by the property appraisers
records and is in possession or control of the property and is in violation of Seminal County Code Chapter 95. 5 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3A and is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondents to correct the
violation on or before midnight of May 8th, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondents must remove the rubbish from the property. If the respondents do not comply with an order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or if
repeated after compliance. The respondents must contact myself to arrange an inspection of the property while uh to verify compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions? Professor Hansen? Seeing none. Uh you hear the third case is
25-37 CEB. Same respondent, same address. This one's 37. H. What do you want? I think we Sorry, my bad. Um, for the record, I'm submitting a copy of the presentation to the clerk as exhibit one. Sorry about
that. Seinal County Sheriff's Office code enforcement, uh, Shannon Henson. This case is um, 25 CEB 25 37 CEB. Respondents are Mabel Hill, Harry Hill, Bernice McKenna, and Cheryl M. Hardy.
This uh property is located at 2054 Cypes Avenue. The violation charge of seminal county chapter seminal county code chapter 9595.4 is defined in 95.3C rup structure. And I'm going to submit this
copy to the clerk as exhibit one. The initial inspection was September 21st, 2024. The first notice was September 13, 2024. October 3rd, 2024. The compliance dates were September 3rd 30th, 2024,
October 16th, 2024. And follow-up inspections were October 2nd, 2024, October 28th, 2024, January 3rd, 2025, and April 23rd, 2025. The results of the a follow-up
inspection, the violation of remains of a of a structure remains on the property. And this was taken by myself September 12th, 2024. October 2nd, 2024 by my sergeant. October 28th,
2024. This is uh yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. The suggested recommendation by the code enforcement officer is based on the testimony and evidence presented in the case number 25-27 CEB. It is based determined that
the respondents Mabel Hill, Harry Hill, Bernice McKenna, and Cheryl M. Hardy are the owners of the record record of property recorded located at 2054 Cypes Avenue located in Simol County as determined by the property appraisers record and in possession or control of
the property and is in violation of Simol County chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3C. It is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondents to correct the
violation on or before midnight of May 8th, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondents must repair or remove the rubble of a structure. If the respondents do not comply with the order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or
is repeated after compliance. The respondent must contact myself to arrange an inspection for the property to verify compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions, Charles or Henson? Mr. S? Yeah. Can you just um walk me through a
couple of these photos? Um starting with the this one. Is this the what is this structure? This is a shed that's um outside of the house and it's um it's very unstable. Can we go
back then to the to the Yes. the structure in the right photo that is on the left. Does does this structure have to be demolished in order to for them to meet code? Is it still there? The one
that's covered with the tarp. That's that's the shed. The house it's got a bad porch on it, but that I can't verify that the house itself is falling down. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions?
Uh the blue tarp is covering the shed. The the Yeah, the blue tarp is that shed in both pictures. We're seeing part of it and then the I got you. Okay. The other one was for my rubbish. I got you. And just curious, do you know if that if that shed was ever permitted or is that
just not dealing with that? Okay. Just seems All right. Uh any other questions? Seeing none, folks. This is your opportunity. You heard we've got three things we're looking at here today. They were just presented and just to
abbreviate, I'm going to call one the vegetation issue, uh the rubbish issue, and the remains or rubble of a structure that shed that has to come down. I'm going to guess they may have permit issues, but we're not here for that. So, keep that in mind. But you've got till
May. The recommendation is May 8th or fines kick in. These folks here are going to be deciding in a minute. They may more questions. Go ahead. And those three issues are what we're here for. let these folks know if that date sounds. Well, working with Deputy Shannon, um, yeah, it's it's been it's
been following up depending on how much time you give me to try to get things in order. A lot of this scrap metal and stuff that I was scrapping out has been removed. And um, as Deputy Shannon told you earlier, the yard it just uh, in the back I got to I got to cut down some
some thick stuff in the back and I don't got the tools to work with. Um, but it came, you know, depending on what kind of time y'all give me to get that right. And then far as the shed, it it was in uh it's been there since 72. So, so what
it was is not on the solid foundation. So, I got to get some kind of way. I got to get that that corner cuz it looks like, you know, the the the foundation drop down in one corner. So, we got to have it jacked up. It's just a small shed, but I got to have it jacked up so it can be posted on that one corner and
get it cuz from the distance it looks like it just, you know, it's dro and but the the roof is still good and the structure is still good. It's just that one corner got to be got to get u that foundation right there's got to be built up under that corner. So, u depending on
what kind of time that's the one right there in the corner right there with the white panels right there. You can see how it dips down a little bit, but but the far as the other part in the back and on the other sides, it's all good. Just done dropped down some. And then you coming down sightes, you looking at it from that way there. Looks like it's
it's on a down slope and that's why. So, any questions? Can you tell me what the situation, sir, is with the with the house? Is there anyone living in the house? Yes, sir. It's it it is it needs some it needs some repair work. Um I
can't really get nobody to help me like as far as you know the shed is just resident but uh yeah it's it's livable. It's liveable but it's got to have some work did on it. I had uh one of the jacks broke and that made it kind of like got to get jacked up and then the
roof got to be repaired and stuff too. uh before I before I came, you know, live there, the house was ran through by being rented out, you know, and um I've been living there now since 2018 because uh because of my situation with my
marriage. I moved back out to Midway to my grandma property. So, it's it's it's like I say, the house was built in 72. And so, I mean, not in 72, for 72 years, the house was I get let me correct that.
The house is 72 years old. Um, but like I say, you know, it's it's it's a livable structure and it's it was built on a solid foundation. It was a lot of action there. So, it's got a feel behind it. Um, but yeah, I it you know,
depending on the time y'all give me, you know, to get uh like like the deputy will tell you, a lot of this the rubbish be removed. The yard has been cut in the front and on the sides. And in the back we got that old cane grass. That old that old aggravating cane grass, man. I
got to get something to try to kill that off and probably just dig it up. But that's what you see from the side, you know, from the from some of the shots. You You don't seem like you want to remove the shed? No, it don't got to be removed. No, sir. Cuz I'm I'm It's a
It's No, I don't. It don't. It's just like I say from from when you're looking at it coming down Cypes and right there it's at the corner of Cypes and 21st. When you look at it it looks you know it looks down here but that's all because of that one corner. Um got to be got to
be jacked up and then a foundation got to be put there so they can get that that uh that board that's on the corner on the right. It's got to be built back up. You see that? See where I got the panels at? You see? Because what happened was I I put those panels there because it what happened was it just
dropped down. I was just trying to I I don't got that to stay. I just got that for cosmetics because like I said to drop down so bad. Well, not so so bad where it'll fall and hurt nobody. Not that bad. But it is an eyesore when you're looking from the streets. So what
I got to do, I got to get with me a carpenter, somebody that can help me. I don't got the finances like that to just say call anybody out and get somebody to help me. I'm self-employed. I I I am cleaning service. But uh I got a couple suggestions from a couple men uh there
about round around the city of Sanford and Midway. How we can get it jacked up and and we pull a foundation right there and put a put that 4x4 there up because see how cuz like if you can see the section in the middle, that's way that's where the roof, you know, just kind of
like tilted down from the um from the other part. So that's something that's got to be repaired. But all, you know, it's still a a usable shed. Like it just looks like that from the road. I have just a couple questions. What's the size of the shed? It's probably about a It's
probably about like a 16 by 16. Does it have a foundation? Yes, ma'am. It's not dirt. No, not now. This concrete foundation. No, no, no. That one part right there, that one part right there don't have it. It had It don't got no concrete foundation. They had is back
then they got these blocks about like um I guess they about Yeah. And it's a it's a thing. And what it done did it like tilt it off to the to the side. So all that's got to be brought up. Is there anything you storing anything in it at this time? Not
that front part, but I got my u stuff that I store in the back part, but I don't have anything in it. you know, just like uh holiday stuff for like uh uh Christmas ornaments and stuff like that. But I don't have anything. They don't The whole foundation ain't ain't
like poured like they do today. They got these these pillars is about this wide about about 4 in thick under each corner and that's what they got. What's Nobody's living in it. No, ma'am. Not that far out there. No, ma'am. Did you
have something Mr. Bates? Officer Henson. Um, all three of these violations go back to September of last year. Correct. Is progress been made much on any of these violations since then? Well, the vegetation was almost removed
other than the backyard and I think he does scrapping so things come in and out of the property. So, it gets better and then it gets worse again. So again, the question is, is scrapping a permitted use on this property? It's been ceased now. It it was out of order. It was out
of control. Um, excuse me for cutting in on you, but it was out of control. And that's when I had a vehicle and stuff when I was scrapping, but it done got I used to keep a lot of bicycles and, you know, people used to come and get a a rim, buy a rim from me or or or a frame or something. I don't do that kind of
stuff no more. So it it had cuz it had got out of control and when I say the harassing neighbor call which which is all right you know it it was out of control and I I didn't have it upkeep like it like it should have been but since September the 1st until now it is
I'm down to two bicycles and I don't re I don't do a whole lot of scrapping like you know I keep like bed frames and everything when you see them in other other properties and I'll bring them there and store them until I go to the scrap yard with these mount But I don't do that anymore. And I didn't have a
lawnmower for a few months. And so that made the rubbish and the um and all grow up around the house. And it looked like it was just a decapitated piece of property. But I've gotten everything in control pretty much. Um besides the back, I got to get I got to get some
kind of way to get me some kind of to get to get dig that that cane grass up in the back. It it's it's a mess. It's it's it's a it is a mess. But other than that, it's a livable piece of property and nothing need to be torn out. It just Okay, Mr. Lowry, we're Mr. Lowry, I
believe, right? Yeah, Mr. McKenna. Mr. McKenna. Okay, somebody was Lowry over there. But we're going to hear from county staff. There's something else they want to add. I may have a couple questions unless she covers it, which I think she may. Ma'am, go ahead. One of the members inquired about whether or not these structures I'm sorry, I need you to introduce. I'm sorry. Megan
Zenorski for planning and zoning. Um, one of the members inquired about whether or not these structures were permitted. Um the structures do predate building permits. Um the original structure, the house um was constructed in 1925 with an update um around about
1960 I believe I believe. And if the shed was constructed in 72, that would have predated building permits. So um unless they're modified and altered, they would need to conform with current building and zoning standards. Um but as they said, they're legal non-conforming if they don't conform with current
zoning standards. But they are allowed to exist in their current state unless they don't meet and they're unsafe. Thank you. That's where I was going and I said let me while I got you here a couple more questions. Uh in regards because I was going to ask them what it shows on the property appraisers records whether that's there or not. So if it's
not it probably is not there. Do they what do they need to do? They're going to have a carpenter come is their plan at this point as far as codes and permit department. How would they move forward? he would need a building permit to do anything
structural with the shed. Um especially if it has to deal with the foundation, which it sounds like it does to to jack up that corner. Um what that would entail, I would suggest that you stop in at the building department and talk to a plans examiner to find out the details of what you would need for structural
plans. Um for what I would need, I would need a site plan, which does not need to be a survey. We can you can stop in and see me at any time. I can give you a card before you leave. Um, I can help you through that process. We're available. Um, I just need a site plan showing setbacks and if it doesn't, we
can get them through that process as well. Um, staff's really easy to work with. We make it as as painless as possible on them. It we're just trying to save you some aggravation. You come back in a month and so I suggest you listen to what she says and do that. Uh,
thank you so much. I appreciate that. Absolutely. So if if you bring them back for compliance and they need additional time, we're happy to give you a time frame of what they would need. Any other questions? Oh, no. I do. So give them an idea because they need to ask this board for time. Well, I don't know until I
would see a s a site plan depending on what they need. So if it's just a regular building permit because they're compliant on setbacks, it could be 30 or 60 days. if they need a variance and it encroaches into a a drainage easement, which I doubt given the area that it has
easements on it, um that if it needs a vacate, it could be 69 months. So, it just depends on what we're dealing with on the site. And I don't know that until I see. Do they need a permit to demolish? They do need a Well, again, if it has electric or plumbing in it, it
does. I doubt this does. Um but again, until I know what's there, I don't know. But let's say it didn't have anything. It didn't. Um, I'm going to direct them to the building division because I don't work in the building division. My understanding is they don't if it doesn't have plumbing or electric. That's what a demolition permit
typically requires. But again, I'm not in. So, please do stop in and talk to somebody in the building division just to kind of give you an idea of options and times. It's the connections, the trade connections that typically need a demolition permit. Okay. So, uh, I would like to speak when
I'm able to, please. Yeah, sure. Now's the time. Thank you. Um, this is my brother. I'm Cheryl M. Hardy. The other, uh, names up there, they're deceased, so I'm the only living person up
there. Um, this property, I live elsewhere. Um, and since I've been served with these papers, that makes me responsible for this site. That house there is really
unlivable. The shed is unlivable. And I don't want to because I did speak to Miss Henson myself and she was going over. I work every day. I take care of my family. So,
and since I don't live there, I'm not always there. But when I pass by, I really want something done with this place because it is a site for sore eyes. My brother's there, but there's
been times things have not been kept up to par. I don't want the responsibility because you all are going to build me those violation charges and I don't want anything to really do with that. So, I'm going to
have to find a way or someone can tell me what is the next step. I think someone lives there which that house is unlivable. They shouldn't even be there. The roof is bad. The floors is bad.
Everything is bad at this place. So, I need somebody to tell me what I need to do because when you all want to charge a violation or charge somebody, you're going to be charging me and I don't want to be charged with that because I don't
want to take on that responsibility. I think the whole place needs to be demolished and done with. It's too much fixer uper. It It's not a fixer uper. It's not something that can be done right away because if that was the case
and if they wanted it so bad, it wouldn't look in the in the in in the condition that it's looking now. So, I'm going to have to find a way to excuse myself because I don't want be I don't want to be liable for this and I don't think it's worth
saving. I don't think it's worth keeping. Do I have the money to get it all destroyed? No, I do not. I work hard but I um do not have the money or the resources. But if I if I'm
given direction, I will find a way to make this happen so I can be relinguish my uh my connection to this property because it it's not going to be
it's not going to come up to par. It's not going to get better. It's only really getting worse. Yes, my brother has been doing some things around there. That's good and that's great, but it's not enough. And they're trying to clean up the area, trying to make it look
better. This is not helping it at all. So, I need your help to tell me what I need to do to figure out a way to demolish this property. And like I say, I think someone's in there. They
shouldn't be in there. That should be a code violation right there. So, I'm soliciting your help. So, where I supposed to live? On the streets. You want to tear down the police? Listen at now. We're here for co. You need to take your name off the title then. Take
your name off the title. No. Take your name off the title and let me live. Hold on. You take your name off the title and then I'll live. I'm trying to get my name on the title anyway. I tell you to add it to me. my money. I would make I would qualify for some programs that will help come supplement this house.
Miss Hill. Okay. Have you talked Hardy? I'm sorry, Miss Hardy. I'm going to take over for just one second. Have you spoken to an attorney? I have not, but if you give me one, I certainly will. So, this board unfortunately can't give you legal advice, but I have the phone number for the Semino County Bar
Association Legal Aid Services, and we'll have the code officer give you that phone number when you leave here. Um, unfortunately they can't give you a legal advice to tell you how to handle that situation that you've been talking about, but I think you got some really
good suggestions by um, the county representative and I would encourage you when you leave here today to go see her and get her business card and at the same time reach out to the legal aid society to see if you qualify for their services. Yes, ma'am. Um, I've got to bring the board back though. You have
three cases before you pursuant to chapter 162. You have to make a determination whether there is a violation and provide a reasonable time for compliance. You've heard the situation. It's been pending for a bit now. Um but maybe now that you have
someone in chambers that understands the urgency, um you all can come up with a time period that is um more reasonable. Um, but understand that it has been pending for quite a bit of time as well. So, but you need to kind of make that decision. So, you need to close the
hearing. I I have a question for Miss Hardy before we close the hearing. Yes. Is there anyone else's that is alive that's name is on this title besides yourself? No. Mabel is deceased. Harry is deceased. Bernice McKenna is
deceased. Now, it says Bernice McKenna heir. That's anybody. That's anybody that's an heir of Bernice McKenna. if you look at it properly cuz that's how she got there cuz she's my sister. We're in way beyond. Thank you. Appreciate the answer. I just wasn't in the process to get my name added when my grandmama
died. I was doing my own thing. I was living my life. That's why my name ain't there 35 CEB. That's the vegetation case. That and the three others. Uh the recommendation is uh se excuse me uh by
March 8th or on this one a $50 day fine. And that's what's being recommended. May May 8th May I'm sorry. I'd like to take this one up just for the simple fact that I feel like this one uh should be the the easiest one of all of them to comply with. And so I'm going to uh make
a motion in the first case only. This is 25- uh 35 uncultivated vegetation vegetation that we accept uh the recommendation of staff and um the May 8th would be the compliance
date and with the uh fine per day that staff asked for which I don't seem to see here on my $50. $50. This one's 50. Yeah. Uh this first one, the recommendation's 50. Is that what you wanted to go with? Yes. for 30 for
25-35. I would like to go with the exact staff recommendation for both fine and compliance date of May 8th. Okay. We have a motion on the floor find there is violation with those uh parameters set around it that he just mentioned. Is there a second? Second. Second by Mr.
Bates. Motion by Mr. Simon. All in favor say I. I opposed. Motion carries. Uh the second one is 25-36 CEB. Uh, this is the rubbish case. Same recommendation by May 8th or $100 day
fine on this one. The other two seem like they're more complicated and I'll hand them off to the rest of the board. Well, I don't think the rubbish is any is particularly complicated. I would go with staff recommendation on
25-36 for the May 8th. And is it $50 a day? 100 on that one. $100 a day. I I would think the rubbish could be cleaned up. Motion by Miss Townsen to satis recommendation finding there was is a violation compliance by May 8th or $100 day fine imposed. Second by Mr. Bates I
believe uh verbally Mr. Bates. Uh second by Mr. Bates. All in favor say I. I opposed. Motion carries. And then the last one 125-37 CEB. This is the rubble of a structure. This is the shed uh staff recommendation by May 8th or $100 a day
fine. I'd be willing to extend staff's recommendation on that for 45 days in order to give them time to speak to the county staff. Okay. Whatever date that makes it. If it's 45 days, looks like June 8th and
our meeting would be July 24th. I'll second that motion. You want it ex on the June 8th, the 45day. Uh okay. Okay. Uh Miss Townson made a motion. status recommendation finding that there is a violation on
25-37 CEB some time given till May 8th or $100 day fine second by Mr. signing June 8th. June 8th. June 8th. No, sorry. I didn't. Can you extend the compliance date? Yes. To June 8th. Okay. June 8th. It's not
May the 8th. No. June 8th. June the 8th. That gives some time to talk to staff andor an attorney. That's a recommendation. And then Mr. Son, you seconded this. Yes. Uh, everybody clear on that? Do I need to repeat? We're good. Okay. All in favor say I. I
opposed. That's what we've done. Uh, did you all get all that? Yes. And strongly suggest do what was recommended here and Officer Henson will tell you whenever you're in compliance. So, keep in touch with her as well. Thank you so much. Thank you. Take a break. Take a break.
Can we take a break? Yeah, sure. Going to take a short break here uh at 2:52 p.m. I'm a girl. I can always take a break. You know how that is. We'll be back at 3:05. All right. Thank you.
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[Music] 25-7. Okay, we're going to get started. It's 305. Welcome back. We did have uh since we started the initially started the meeting, we had a couple other uh respondents come in. So, we're going to
go back with them. Uh the first one that came in is on page one. It's actually item number one, which is case number 25-27 CB. Okay. Cindy N and Michael E. Torres, 121 Alma Drive, Alimont Springs
32714. If you're here for that case, please step up to the table here. We're going to ask you to identify yourself and if you've been sworn in. Okay. If you could then remain standing and we'll swear you in here. And uh I
don't know if anybody. No, that's fine. She's going to swear you. Do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to provide is the truth? Yes. And go ahead and have a seat, ma'am. When you get behind that microphone, if you tell us your name, Cindy Torres. Thank
you. Okay. And this is Officer Adair's case. Whenever you're ready, sir. Code enforcement officer Cameron Dair, Seml County Sheriff's Office, South Region. This is case number 2527 CE. The
respondent is Sydney N and Michael E. Torres. Would like to submit a copy of this PowerPoint presentation to the clerk is exhibit A. The violation is located at 121 Alma Drive, Seml County, Florida. The violation charge SEL County Code,
chapter 95, section 95.4 as defined in 95.3A. Rubbish. My initial inspection was on December 4th, 2024. Notices to respondents were December 6th and 2024 and January 2nd, 2025 with compliance dates set for
December 23rd, 2024 and January 20th, 2025. Follow-up inspections were January 2nd through yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. The results are the rubbish violation remains on subject
property. These are images from my initial inspection on December 4th, 2024. You can see the rubbish on both photos. This is a follow-up inspection January 2nd, 2025. The rubbish remains, especially in the right right of the
house down that alleyway. Follow-up inspection January 21st, 2025. The rubbish remains. This is date of posting, April 11th, 2025. You can see there's rubbish at the roadside and down that alleyway. There's still more debris, miscellaneous
side, homes, etc. This is yesterday's inspection, April 23rd. You can see the same pile of rubbish remains at the front and down the side of the home. The suggested recommendation is based on the testimony and evidence presented in
case number 2527 CEB, it is determined that the respondents Sydney N and Michael E. Torres are the owner's record of property located at 121 Alma Drive located in Seml County as determined by the property appraisers records are in possession or control of
the property and are in violation of Seminal County Code Chapter 95 section 95.4 for as defined in 95.3A rubbish. It is further recommended that the code enforcement board issue an order for the respondents to correct the violation honor before midnight of May
9th, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the respondents must remove the rubbish from the property. If the respondents do not comply with the order, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you.
Any questions? saucer there. Mr. Simon, uh, yeah. Is the is the trampoline um part of the violation or no? No. Thank you. Okay. Uh, this is your opportunity to speak. Uh, the recommendation is, uh,
that you have it corrected by May 9th or there be a fine of $100 a day that would start from then. So, whatever you have to say about this, that's fine. I'm not in um arguing. I I know that it needed to be cleaned up. Um, I'm surprised he didn't get a photo yesterday. We actually have a trailer um from U-Haul
that's taking up my whole front that's full of all that stuff. We've been waiting for county to pick it up from the bulk pickup, but they tell me that sometimes they don't have room to put it onto the trash pickup. So, I ended up waiting three or four weeks for a pickup. That's what happened in December
when I first got the first notice. I didn't get it picked up until the third week of December because they they just pick it up when they're able to. Um, so I decided instead of waiting this time because this is the the notice that they left on the property. I hadn't gotten the other notices that it it states, but I sometimes don't get my mail because it
falls out of the mailbox and we find it on the street. Um, but we um did get the trailer from U-Haul so we can haul it away ourselves instead of waiting for somebody to have room in the truck so that we could take it to the landfill ourself so that we could just, you know,
avoid any trouble with that. I just had to wait till I had money and I had I didn't have a car all of um most of February to March I didn't have a vehicle so I just got a car a month ago so I was able to go ahead and secure a storage unit for the excess
miscellaneous items and then I could use the trailer to take the rubbish to the landfill myself. Mr. Do you believe that you can comply by May 9th? Yes. Thank you. All right.
I move that we accept staff's recommendation with a um compliance date of May 9th and a fine of $100 uh per day if the uh violation continues. Second motion by Mr. Sun by Mr. de Bates set
stat recommendation as presented including the fact there is a violation. All in favor say I. I opposed. That's what we've done. You've got to that date. Thank you. Appreciate your time coming in today. Thank you. Thanks, ma'am. Uh, brings us on the next page to
be page two. Uh, case number 25-30 CEB Vulcan Dolma Doi Dami and Dammy Marie Hallow 936 Red Fox Road, Alimont Springs,
32714. If you are here for that case, you could step up to the table, please. And they have three cases. So you might be able to read the next two. Y we'll hear the first one first. The first one's going to be 25-30 CEB followed by
25-31 CEB followed by 25-32 CEB. Same respondents, same address. We've got somebody coming. Okay. Can I use both of Yes. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Were you sworn in? If you No. Okay. If
you whenever you get comfortable there, just remain standing for just a moment so we can get sworn in. Okay. Do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth? Yes. Thank you, ma'am. You can have a seat. And uh we're going to hear these three
cases, then we'll give you the chance to speak to them. Uh, Shenita Heming, Officer Hemingway, whenever you're ready. Yes, sir. Good afternoon. Hello. Code enforcement officer Shenita Hemingway, Simar County Sheriff's Office, South Region. Case number
2530 CEB. Respondents Vulcan Dami and Dammy Marie Halo. Violation address 936 Red Fox Road. Violation charge Simo County Code Chapter 95 section 95.4 four as defined in
95.3A rubbish. Oh, I'm sorry. I'd like to present this to the clerk as exhibit A. My initial inspection was January 2nd, 2025. Notices were January 6, 2025.
Compliance date January 21st, 2025. Follow-up inspections January 29th, 2025 through yesterday, April 23rd. Greenway. Yes. The results. The rubbish violation remains on the
property. I took these pictures on January 2nd. You see some of the rubbish. Okay. In the right photo where the arrows pointing, that looks like the base of a toilet. This is more tree debris. And I don't know if that was a hammock
or if it was a game. I know at one point something there in the picture that she said she was selling or I don't remember what was going on with that. And then there's more tree debris in the back. And that was January 29th.
went back on the day of posting, April 14th. The toilet remains and there's more tree debris. This was also date of posting, April 14th. Went back on April 23rd and I
could see some improvement from posting to yesterday. Um, there was a pile that was moved up and there was actually some rubbish and cans by the road, but the violation remains. [Applause]
The suggested recommendation based on the testimony evidence presented in case number 2530 CEB. It is determined that the respondents Woken Dammy and Domi Marie Halo are the owners of record are in possession of the property and are in
violation of Simar County Code Chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3A. And it is further recommended that the code board issue an order for the respondant to correct the violation on or before midnight of May 12th,
2025. In order to correct the violation, she needs to remove the rubbish from the property. If she does not comply, a fine of $100 will be imposed for each day that the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you.
Any questions for us or Hemingway on this particular one? Seeing none, whenever you want to start on the next one, but you can go ahead. This isn't when I talk, right? Did she? Not yet. Yeah, we'll get to you. We're
good. I'm good. Thank you. Code enforcement officer Shenita Hemingway, Sim County Sheriff's Office, South Region, case number 2531 CEB. Respondent Vulcan Dammy and Domi Marie Halo. I would like to submit a copy to
the clerk. Is it A. Violation address 936 Red Fox. Violation charge seminal county code chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3F stagnant or file
water. The initial inspection was November 4th, 2024. Notices November 5th, 2024, November 26, 2024, and January 6, 2025. Compliance dates November 20th, 2024,
December 11, 2024, and January 21st, 2025. Follow-up inspections, November 21st, 2024 through yesterday, April 23rd. The results were that the stagnant file water remains on the property. My initial inspection, you can
see with the arrow, you could barely see it from my point because the house is a little elevated. So, I was on a sidewalk, but you can barely see that little strip of green on November 4th, 2024. That was stagnant
water. On January 2nd, 2025, the homeowner came out and she gave permission to go onto the property. She had drained it some, but still in the bottom, the water stagnant. On January 29th, we had the same issue with the stagnant water. She mentioned um her son possibly coming and
helping dig it out because of her situation. As you can see the crutch, she couldn't get down and and get it out. This is the day of posting April 14th, 2025. I was not also I was not able to
go onto the property to speak to the owner to get permission. So I was not able to take pictures to see if the water was still stagnant on that day. The suggested recommendation based on the testimony evidence presented in case
number 2531 CEB is determined that the respondent vulcani and domi marie halo are the owners of record are in possession or control of the property are in violation of similar county code chapter 95 section 95.4 four as defined in
95.3F. And it is further recommended that the code board issue an order for the respondent to correct the violation owner before midnight of May 12, 2025. In order to correct the violation, the the water must be removed or
clean. If the respondent does not comply, a fine of $250, $250 will be impo imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any questions on the stagnant water case?
Seeing none, if you want to go to the third one. Uh the B25-32 CB. Yes, sir. Code enforcement officer Shannita Hemingway, Semino County Sheriff's Office, South Region. Case number 2532 CEB responded Vulc and Dami and Dommy
Marie Halo. I would like to present a copy to the clerk. Exhibit A. The violation address is 936 Red Fox Road. Violation charged, Simino County Code, chapter 95, section 95.4 4 as
defined in 95.3G unsecured swimming pool. The initial inspection was November 4th, 2024. Notices November 5th, 2024, November 26, 2024, and January 6,
2025. Compliance dates, November 20th, 2024, December 11, 2024, and January 21st, 2025. Follow-up inspections November 21st, 2024 through yesterday, April 23rd, 2025. Results: The unsecured pool
violation remains on the subject property. This is the pool enclosure on the initial inspection November 4th. The enclosure has holes in it. So, it has to be at least 48 in to be
considered among other things. but because of the holes um that was one of the issues and that's the picture there. So that was on November 21st, 2024. The whole
remains in this picture, January 2nd. And I think probably in the previous picture, um, she had got what we used to secure pools temporarily. She has some and she said it was more
heavy duty than what we use and she secured the pool um with that. But because that's considered temporary, it's still considered unsecured. On the left picture is the door where it apparently is not self-latching and self-closing because
there's a gap in between where you can see with the arrow. And on the right picture is still no screen. And there are other screens missing, but that one is easy for me to see to show you in the picture.
This was dated posting April 14th. And as you can see with the arrow, it's still missing the screen. My yesterday I also did an inspection and as you can see the screen is still
missing. The suggested recommendation by the code enforcement officer is based on the testimony and evidence presented in case number 2532 CEB. It is determined that the respondents woke and don Marie Halo are the owners of record of property are in possession or control of
the property and are in violation of similar county code chapter 95 section 95.4 as defined in 95.3G unsecured swimming pool. And it is further recommended that the code board issue an order for the respondant to correct the violation on
or before midnight of May 12th, 2025. And in order to correct the violation, secure the pool by surrounding it with a fence or a barrier at least 48 in in height above the finished ground level. Ensure the gate and doors and such barriers are self-closing and
self-latching. Ensure that the self-latching device is at least 54 in above the bottom of the gate and ensure that the release mechanism is located on the pool side of the gate. If the respondent if the respondents do not comply with the order, a fine of two
$250 will be imposed for each day the violation continues or is repeated after compliance. This concludes my presentation. Thank you. Any uh questions for officer Hemingway? Uh yes. Uh officer, is this backyard not fenced
in? No. Thank you. You're welcome. I have a kind of a strange question, I guess. Go ahead. If they managed to drain the water out of the pool and keep the water out of the pool, is it still an unsecured pool? Yes. Okay. It wouldn't be stagnant anymore, but it
would still be unsecured just because the pool can hold the water. Okay. Uh, no further questions. Ma'am, this is your opportunity to speak. We have three cases here. Before you get going, I I didn't ask your name. I guess I'm I'm
Marie. Va is my husband. Vulca um passed away six years ago. He went to Florida Hospital for a simple thing and they cost him his life. I'm sorry. So, and I have uh I had knee surgery eight years ago. I've never been able to bend my leg which caused me to have a collapsed hip
joint and right now I've got a blood clot and I didn't go to the hospital like I'm supposed to because I had to come here. So, just to show you I'm trying to be very responsible. Um number one, I'm a realtor so I know the rules and I know the rules with the pools and I'll get to that in a second. Um, I don't know when you came by yesterday, officer, but there was a whole crew of
people there all day. So, I don't know where you could have been or how you could have been there, but and the day before also, we had we had a whole crew. I had two three guys there the day before and I had another crew, three guys there yesterday. So, anyways, and I've got the proof to show you. Okay. Um, there was um in our backyard, well,
let me backtrack. We have 20 20 big trees on our property. So when Hurricane Milton hit on 1010, um there was tons of, you know, branches everywhere, tons of limbs, tons of Okay. And I really don't have anybody I can count on. Um you per se, unless I, you
know, beg them, pay them, you know, whatever. Anyways, so I personally, um own three chainsaws. Um I bought the biggest one, um the week after the hurricane just because I wanted we had BR limbs in the front, too. So I wanted to make sure everything was taken care of because I didn't want to have a problem. So bottom line on that whole
story was in that back the one picture that the officer showed uh officer Hemingway showed with the big tree. One of the trees had come down had actually landed right between two other branches. It's stuck there. There's no way anybody I've talked to four tree guys. I have a
neighbor who is a landscaper. They don't want to touch it. So it's stuck there. So the bottom line in that picture was there was a branch picking stick sticking out. Okay. And in between in the bottom were all the logs. So when officer Hemingway came out, she said, "Well, you got to get rid of that." I said, "Yeah, people have logs." And she
said, "Yeah." She said, "But you know, straighten them up." So we did. Okay. Um yeah, that picture right there. So um what if if you were to come by now or anytime after I think it was 2:30 yesterday, um I had someone here's a
picture and you can enter this. Here's what it looks like. This is as of this morning and I printed this this morning. And here's the logs stacked. And officer Hemingway told me as long as they're stacked because um one of the guys who actually helped me wants the logs, but he couldn't take it yesterday because he had his kids with them blah blah blah.
So here's two pictures. This is the logs. So that's done. That's okay. That little toilet was sitting there off to the side. They trash. Here's my trash from last night, this morning. Um the ping pong table, which somebody said they wanted. I said, "Forget it. I can't
wait any longer." I threw it out. They also, this is a um hammock frame. So, that was put out this morning and they actually took the took the whole thing. Took all it. So, that's this is just two pictures of the same thing, but those are gone. There's there's absolutely nothing rubbish, quote unquote, in my
yard. And I have pictures of my yard. I'll show you. Here's the pictures of my yard. There's the left side of the yard, the neighbors across the street. Here's the looking towards the right side of the yard.
I also had somebody totally uh with a big lawn mower, riding mower, mow down every single thing he possibly could also. So, there's nothing there. Here's the right side, left side, right side. Here's the view. This is where the little ferns are growing. I've grown ferns in this area in between the ones
that are in my flower beds because I'm a realtor and when somebody doesn't have any flowers in their flower beds and you know, I'm trying to list the house, I'll say, "Oh, I can bring and they don't have money, I'll bring them ferns, you know, typically." So I used to grow try to grow, you know, some ferns so that I could take them to them so we didn't
have to spend extra money. So I told the guy yesterday, I said, "Just mow them on down." So and they weren't there anyways. They've been gone for months. They've been gone since the first time I saw an officer cuz I did it myself. I took a I bought a battery operated weed whacker just because I can't count on anybody. Can only count on your fingers, you know. So I had eliminated those
months ago. So those those have been gone since November, you know. Um anyways, that's that. And then here's the view from the other direction. So you can see this is exactly what it looks like. So that's there's no
overgrown. Okay. Okay. Um let's see. So that's that. That was the rubbish area. Okay. Stagnant water. Stagnant water. Um one of the when the neighbors moved in next door the house. We're on the corner. Okay. We're on this, you know, this corner. People
moved in. I don't know what they did, but somehow my my pool pump got caught. The line got cut. Okay, so I'm trying to was trying to be nice and not trying to cause trouble. I'm not trying to cause a problem with the guys. It's two gay guys. Um nothing against that, but you know, you just don't know about people.
So anyways, um you know, I never said anything to them about the line because, you know, I don't want to cause problems. They just moved in. They seem like nice guys and I want to have good neighbors. So my son had said, "Oh, don't worry. to look at. He has a friend whose dad has a pool company and whose mother is also, by the way, a real
estate attorney and has given me all the latest as far as the law is concerned um with having owning a pool. Okay? And they told me um Michael, my son, said, "Hey, don't worry, you know, we'll get Noah's dad to come out and fix the pool line." Well, he's not come out yet and
fix the pool line. So, I said, "The rule with according to the law, state of Florida says you have to have a pool barrier that's at least 4t high. You also have to have the locks, a lock that's self-closing that's 54 inches off the ground, which we've always had. And
you also have to um have um of course the the um the fencing. Um what did I miss? Um there's another thing I'll think of it. Okay. So, when I got this violation, I was like, "Oh, what happened at the end of August was the the big bears, you know, that we're all
concerned about. I'm I'm up working one night. It's the middle of the night. It's 1 It's 1:20 in the morning and I'm sitting at the dining room table and I'm home alone with my little dog and I hear this ruckus on my porch. I'm like, "What the heck is that?" And mind you, there's nothing on my porch, okay? Like no, the
ping pong table's not there anymore. You know, there's nothing there. There's no food. There's no nothing. Okay? I'm like, "What the heck?" And I hear this banging and I look out and there was about from closer then from me to that other desk was the back of a big bear.
And I was like, "Oh my god." you know, so I don't know what to do. I quick put the turn the dog around so the bear wouldn't see the dog, you know, and the bear's looking the other way and I had my I had my phone and I called I'm I'm banging on the door, you know, go away, go away, you know, cuz I don't know what
they're going to do. And and it was big. I mean, I only saw him from the back. So I called I thought I was calling the non-emergency number at Simino County. They connected me over with the um 911, you know, the reg emergency number. I was like, "Oh, no. I didn't mean to call you." They said, "No, you know, we're at 1:20 in the morning." 1:30. Now it's
1:30 in the morning. So anyways, um he said the guy, the dispatcher said, "Just, you know, make a keep making a lot of noise," which I was. I was banging on the door. I now have whistles on all my key rings, you know. So because he told me, "By a bullhorn, you know, and I was like, what am I going to do if I'm not in the house, you know?"
So the whistles are good. So anyways, this bear just looked and he didn't never turned around, but he went straight out the back. So he made a big hole in that bottom corner screen. You could see the big round, you know, that bottom panel. So he went straight out the back. So
that was, you know, a big hole. And then we have we have hurricane damage to our screens. Okay. We have, like I said, 20 trees on the property. We had so many branches come down. Well, I'm filed a claim, you know, on insurance. So, I wasn't going to go about and fix the screens at that point because, you know,
I'm trying to get, you know, an insurance claim and, you know, I've got this big hole too from the bear and and I have screen, you know, so if there was ever a little hole or whatever, you know, I mean, I've been trying to do it myself. I know how to use the spline and the we have three different kinds of spline, you know, on ours and I've got
the tools and blah blah blah blah. So, anyways, when I got this notice, I was like, "Oh, no. Uh-uh." because I can't really fix the screens because I have this insurance claim. Okay. So, um, what I did was I talked to the guy who's, you
know, dad's the pool company guy. His mom is a real estate attorney. She also owns a title company, Central Florida Legal. And, um, just to make sure that I was doing the right thing. So, what she told me was same thing I already knew. You know, you have to have the fence. It's got to be four feet high. I knew that cuz my son, you know, was was born
in 1997 and, you know, the year 2000 is when they changed the laws as far as the pool safety. So, I mean, we have we actually had holes drilled in ours because, you know, our son, well, he he could swim by way before he was three, but just, you know, in case. So, anyways, um, what I did was I, um, and
my my what I did was I thought, well, I don't want to take a chance. Okay. So what I did was I researched you know how can you put up another another fence on top on top of the screen. So what I found out was that there is this really good it's
called ohhoohoo. It's a plastic barrier fence. It's not meant to be a temporary fence. It is not the same as the stuff that you guys put along the road. It's three times as thick. It's at least three times as much money. And I brought you just a little sample because it's four feet high. They had a three feet
high. They had a green one. And they had that and they had this is just and it comes in 100 feet rolls. Okay. So I bought two 100 foot rolls. This is like each 100 bucks. Okay. And what I did was I I also bought poles, metal poles because what I did was I took zip ties and attached along every and I have
pictures of that. Um I attached every single place along where I could and then I used the little metal poles. Not little, they're four feet high. I bought three foot ones by mistake and realized no they should have been four foot. So I put in I I went every single spot all along the screen all the whole way
around and put in 4 foot high fencing over if it had a screen or not. So there so is there is absolutely no opening anywhere on that whole pool all the way around. Yeah, the top panel above this might have a hole in
it, but this is four feet high and this is what the law said I had to have. Okay, so here's a piece of that just if you want to see it. Okay. Um, and like I said, I didn't buy the cheap stuff. Um, and then also here's the this now this
um Oh, these are the blacks. Hold on. Here's here's the cool ones. Here's the screen. I mean, here's here's the black. I have all kinds of pictures I took just so I could show you. Um, so here's the um one side of the pool, left
side. Here's the right side. And here's the back. So you can see there is absolutely no gap anywhere and you know of course it's intentional. All right. So that's that. And then uh
there's two pro pool screen doors. Okay. So the one closest to the street that one and there's a lock on it and it worked but it didn't have that self-closure, you know, like it's really supposed to. I mean so I'd have to make sure it closed. Um what I did was I
replaced it. Um, so and just to keep it nice looking. So all because with the guy who did it actually bought a kit so it came with the two pieces. So he we replaced the handle part inside and out on that one. And then we also did the there's a closeup of the lock and then
also the bar part that goes across the door because that's the part that you know allows it to either stay open or you know swing closed. So this is all brand new. So I just to make sure and because that was the it was the bar part that we really needed. Okay. So that's
that's what that is. The other side on the other screen door like away from the street. Um that lock has always worked and the bar part works on it. So here's the bar part. Here's the inside. The lock on the outside looked kind of eh you know was crummy looking. So he
actually had to buy an exit. For some reason he got two lock. The guy who did the locks got two top locks outside. So he had said he might as well replace it. So I now have another brand new lock there. So the locks are definitely secured. And then my the at my attorney said that you know this case she said
this should have been over when I told her I was coming here today. She said why? She said when you drain the pool which was on October 18th by the way the pool was drained on October no I'm sorry. November wait let me tell you exactly. The hurricane was on the 10th.
The pool was we we rented the pool pump on November 18th and it was drained overnight on pool on uh November 18th. And there there was less than one inch of water when we did it. Um and it was like about this much around the drain. And the the guy who did it who helped me
said that's as much as you can get out. He says you can never get that little bit around the around. So and she and then of course as it rained you know there was a little bit more more water coming in. So, I was trying to, you know, get it out, get out so that it doesn't accumulate. Um, and so it wouldn't be stagnant or, you know, foul
smelling. So, then, um, we've rented, I rented a pool two other times to get that, make sure there's no water there, just to try, you know, when it when it rained the week of the hurricane, not the hurricane, the tornado in Sino County, you know, on Markham Woods Road. That's right down the street from us. So, that was uh, you know, just a month
ago. And what I did was um, we um, that's where a lot of that other stagnant water had come from. So, what I did at the time was I said, "You know what? The heck with this until Noah's dad fixes my pool bump. I'm going to put a tarp over the whole pool." So, what we
did two nights ago is totally drain. There was just a little bit of water, but that ugly green picture that she had, that's not very current, by the way. Um, we drained that again. And in this picture, you'll see this is not water, okay? This is the uh it's a pit
where it's turned black, you know. And here's the other pits you can see. So, this is two nights ago, not yesterday, night before. Okay. And then what we did was we um I I took took the tarps and I had a bunch of um you want that one. And
then I had a bunch of sandbags, you know, that I always hung on to after all the hurricanes. So, we took I of course I had to have somebody do this because I can't even lift these. So he took they took the tarps, put two the two tarps across so they're covered,
there's no gaps. Put sandbags right on the very edge. Put sandbags also further back so there is not a gap anywhere. Nothing can get under this thing. And then this picture was just I had an extra picture of this lock and I thought, well, you
know, this really kind of shows too the way the pool cuz it's an irregular shaped pool. So you can see, I mean, it's definitely secured and there's no way anything can get can absolutely get under there. And the idea, of course, is, you know, got no one to come over and fix my pool pump like it was
supposed to or his dad two years ago. Um, and then, um, hopefully this insurance claim will be paid and then I can, you know, really do the because I need to have my roof done and I need to have the cage for the pool screen. See, the problem is none of the screen guys wanted to do the top screens because the
pu the the uh cage came unattached to the house during the hurricane. So the g they won't even climb up on the screen. I had them out there. I had two different guys that we used to that used to work for us. They won't even climb up on the on the cage to do the top. I can't climb up there. I cannot do it with my leg. I can climb, you know, so
far, but I I'm, you know, risking it and I really shouldn't be. So, but you can't, you know, I've got to get that screen. The cage has to be, you know, fixed from. So that's where that insurance claim comes into play. But that's what I did, you know, I'm and as far as I know, you know, everything and
there's nothing there's absolutely nothing in our yard. There's absolutely no debris. There's nothing there's there's nothing, you know, and there's nothing. Um, you know, the pool is drained. There's nothing in the pool. If you were to go there right now, it's as dry as can be. Um, this is the the uh
tarps over it. Um, and it's secure all the way around. And like I said, you know, my real estate at my attorney who's a real estate attorney said, "You know what? You it should have been once you drained it, that should have been the end of this case if that was the issue." But I understand there was a couple little things in the yard. So,
okay. So, that's it. You know, it's um and it's, you know, everything's secured unless there's something that I don't know about, you know, and I'm not a non-compliant person. I mean, I'm I'm try to be very compliant. I don't need any more problems. I've had so many problems in my life. I've got all these health issues going on now. my back is
curving, you know, from my leg and from my hip. I don't know if you can see, but I mean, I'm I'm in my my lung is starting to collapse. So, you know, I don't need any more problems with anything as far as stuff, you know, goes. So, that's why I'm trying to get stuff done and do it the right way because if you don't do it the right way, then it's not going to be done the
right way. So, anyways, so that's it. Thank you. Do you have any questions for me? Well, we'll find out in just a moment. Uh, Mr. Bass, do you have a question? No. I'm sorry. document. I So, as far as you believe
you're in compliance in all three of these cases, correct? Yes. Yes. I'd make a motion to accept. One moment. Well, sir Hemingway, when was the last time you were out there? And do you have anything to add or offer in regards to the testimony we just heard? I'm like she said, well, I was out there
yesterday when I and I was out there actually with officer Adair as well. Um, it wasn't after 2:30. As I said before, as far as the stagnant water, I mean, the water's green. I don't know what was in there. She did mention that they would have to
get in and scoop it out, and she's not able to do that. So, she said she would have to have her son assist her. Um, what we go by is MUN code. That's what we have to follow and the requirements that are in Munich Code. So, you know, I went by Munich code and what I was also
told by a senior officer who has more experience as far as the tarp um and her pool pump not working, you have to have that flowing water. You have to have that pool pump. As far as the tarp, um if it's not fitted to the pool and drilled into the
pool, it doesn't necessarily meet the requirements. But again, you have the power to decide that. But as far as you know, Munic code or what? Did chapter 95. Did you see a tarp on
either your 10 or 23rd visit? No, the pictures there are days that she went up and gave me permission to go onto her property. So, as I said before, I don't know if I know I was doing a lot of talking. So, on the 14th when I did my posting and the 23rd, I was not able to
access the property. I was down on the sidewalk and because the pool was drained, I wasn't able to see it from there. So, no, the 14th and the 23rd, I was not able to see it. Did I Did I ask whether this yard this this backyard is not fenced in, though? Correct. It's not
fenced in. Thank you. That's how I was able to see it. Ma'am, did you have something you want to do? What I was going to say is um Officer Hemingway, I mean, she's correct to an extent. Um that green picture that you know she showed the most recent green that most of that water I think came from the hurricane that not the
hurricane the tornado that hit Mark Woods Road you know a month ago cuz I had a lot of rain. I mean I had an absolute lot of rain but two is it two nights ago or three nights ago? Two nights ago we rented my the guy Noah whose dad owns the pool company came because I told his mom the attorney you
know she and she knew I was coming here. I had to talk to her about title work on another situation and I told her I was coming. She said why are you coming here? And that's why I said, you know, she said, "You shouldn't have to come here because the pool was already drained." So, she sent her son over cuz she was mad, you know, that he should have taken care of it like he was
supposed to. Um, so he came over. He was supposed to tell his dad, "Okay, to come in and fix my pool pump." Anyway, so he came two nights ago, two nights ago. We're on Thursday, so Tuesday night. Uh, anyways, he came and he drained it
again. So, and there's there is like, that's what I'm saying. If you were to see it right now, it is bone dry. Absolutely bone dry. That's why that's why I took the picture, too, showing that, you know, where that pit is because that's not water. That's actually a pit um where it's pitted um right around the drain, which is probably why it was holding water
before. You know, it might have been water, maybe not, but there's absolutely nothing there. There's absolutely nothing there. It you can see in the picture, it is totally bone and it's hot outside. You have no issue with the dates, the compliance dates. Okay. Right. So, I mean, you know, I don't know what she did or didn't see, but you know, but all that's gone. There is
nothing there. There's absolutely nothing there except now it's covered also because I'm thinking you know what if it rains again I don't want to keep going through. So another when you're talking about a fence that's that idea came up because I would love to have a fence. We have a fence across the back
and there's a fence on this side. So, the only two sides that are missing is the side along this, you know, the street red f um red fox and then actually it's Larson. Um and then on this side there's just a short part place in the front. And the guy who
called about me is a real nice guy. Let me just put it that way. Okay. He uh used too wholesale Rolexes and he thinks he's like God's gift to the world. And he thought um well my husband had done a stupid thing. My husband had done a refinancing and
just his name one day because he was short on time and for after he passed away for almost three years Bank of America my name's on the house too. Okay. Bank of America wouldn't even acknowledge me. They wouldn't take money from me. They wouldn't take pay they would just wouldn't totally because they wanted the house because they have equity in the house. Okay. We need to stay focused on the Well, the reason I'm
pointing trying to get to that is that this guy on the corner, okay, the guy that called, okay, he was really convinced last year that I was going to go into foreclosure and he was ready. He was ready to just steal my house from me. Well, guess what? That didn't happen. So now he's a very vindictive.
Okay, everybody hates him. But this is the guy I'm dealing with. So bottom line is I would really love to have a fence. Okay, I would really So that's the next thing on my personal list of things to do is like hm I'd have to find out if it's allowable. I'm sure it is because everybody else has one or a lot of people do and then find out how much how
much it might be, but that's, you know, something that I've been thinking about when you mentioned defense. So anyway, I only need it on two sides. Sounds like uh she says she has no issue with the compliance state is my understanding. Uh right. The officer has to go out and do
a final inspection and and what she has up now for a pool fence, the netting that's around the screened in porch will not be sufficient. Correct. Correct. Thank you. This this is a permanent stuff. This is
not sold as temporary. board understands that she she's definitely not going to comply with that one in the time frame. People use this as a permanent thing. You know, here's the here's I didn't bring the whole thing off of Amazon, but you can. But this is not the cheap little crappy stuff that they use along
the road. Sure. But she knows what the standards are. She knows what I was the law and my attorney to talk to her to see what it would take to get it in compliance. My attorney, okay, who's a real estate attorney said it has to be four feet high. In addition to the fact that she mentioned the top of the
screens are still not fit. That doesn't matter if it's not if it's higher than 4T. It doesn't matter. Even if the tops if she had a barrier that was at least 48 in, this is 48 in all the way around. The top wouldn't it? It is 40. This is 48 in. I'm trying to help you. Just sit
down for one second so we can clear up the issue. Sit down. Yeah. So yes, the top wouldn't matter for us as long as she had a permanent barrier that was 48 in. Right. And that material is not a permanent barrier. No, it is not. It's okay. Even if we secure a pool with the
M material that we have, we still contact county and they come out and install a permanent fence. It's just temporary. Yes. Okay. On vacant properties, not occupied. Okay. So, you need to close the hearing and go
ahead and have your discussion. Yeah, I was going to make a motion to go ahead accept staff's recommendation on all three of these violations. Second. Okay. Uh, can you go back to the dates on each individual case? Can you go back
to the dates on each individual case, please? Are we okay doing it? I'm You're going to do one by one. Okay. So, that's why I'm asking her to pull up the dates for each individual case and the amounts so we're all clear. Go ahead. You've
already kind of Did you already vote on his motion? We haven't voted. Okay. 2530 we're doing now. Yes. Okay. My my second still stands. Yes. And that we had a uh that there was this was the rubbish case. Make sure we're all on the same
sheet here. And the recommendation is my notes uh was uh compliance by May 12th or $100 a day fine. Yes, sir. Uh okay. And that looks like that's what that all in favor say I. I motion carries. Gone.
The next one is 25-31 CEB. That's the stagnant or foul water. My notes show by May 12th or $250 day fine. Miss Hemingway. That's correct. Uh, my second still stands. The same motion and I'm sorry, who made was it? Mr. Davis and
second by Mr. Simon. All in favor say I. I. That's done. And the last third and last 25-32 CEB. Uh, this is the unsecure swimming pool. I didn't write notes. Uh,
same same thing by May 12th or $250 day fine. All same motion. All in favor say I. I. So that's what we've done. Everything you've seen. Uh no surprises there. Sounds like you you make sure get with officer Hemingway to make sure
you've got what you need. I suggest asking her to go back out there down there. So there's nothing in my yard. Then why is there a deadline on that? There's no rubbish. The officer is the only one that can close out your case. So she needs to make an appointment with you. You need to make an appointment
with her and do a walk through together. And once she sees it, then she can close out the case if you're in compliance. Okay. And do you think that Well, I I'll get with my attorney as far as this goes because that's not the the law says you have to have a a secured fencing period
or secured barrier for today's hearing. She should have been here. So, the fact that there's no attorney here means that you didn't retain her to be here today. Okay. All right. Go on. You have was necessary. All right. We're moving on to the agenda. uh the other cases actually
that's the last of our cases today uh in believe that's the first time I can recall that every case we had somebody was here to Mhm. Yeah. So that's that's good news. Uh let's say the case is not heard by the board. You can if there are any I
don't think there are any. Uh you can look at those if there are any. I don't think there are other business. We need to elect a vice chair. Uh so in order to do that I guess we get nominations. So you open the chairman
will not do your g open the floor for nominations. Opening the floor for nominations for a dice chair. You don't want to make eye contact with anybody, do you? Well, I'd nominate Mr. Simon. I nominate Mr. Davis. Well, I appreciate
that except I don't feel I have enough experience yet to uh to fill in for the chairman. So, I'd like to defer to someone else. You've got She'll sit next to you and like she she'll help you out if that's an issue. I'm not trying to
eat away, but don't let experience on anything, chairman, vice chairman, whatever. Well, there's it's some other interest, too. So, I I would prefer to defer to someone else. I certainly respect that. Understand? We should definitely gauge Mr. Bates's interest here.
I would nominate Mr. Bates. I'll second. I'll second that. There we go. Any other nominations? Well, Okay. Do you accept the nomination? Yeah. Okay. All right. Now, any other nominations? Any other nominations? I
believe I was nominated, but I'll gladly withdraw my nomination in favor of what seems to be the clear consensus here. I didn't hear Who I didn't hear you nominated. Oh, I didn't hear Greg did to get
himself out. Yep. Closing nominations. Closing nominations. We have one active nominee, Mr. Bates. Uh, all in favor say I. I oppose. Okay. Congratulations. I think and then
Thank you. Well, it's according to Are you planning on missing any meetings? No, I was going to miss today, but I told my son I couldn't. Uh, but no, no, I'm usually um I'm usually pretty good. Uh let's
see. Cancellation of May 22nd meeting. So there will be no meeting next month and we will reconvene in June on June 26. June. Okay. Yes, we do have a June meeting this year. Okay. And maybe what we'll do is we'll create
the list of dates again and pass it out just so because we're at the halfway point. So please take these dates when we bring them in June and look at your calendars. If you have any conflicts, just let the clerk know in advance. We're waiting on two appointments. So, it's really critical that between now
and those two appointments that everyone let us know if you can't make it to a meeting early on. Okay? And then I'll work on a workshop as well, but I was going to wait for the two appointments and then we'll do kind of a workshop that we try
to do annually. So, as soon as we know when those appointments are made, um, I'll reach out to you all, get some dates out there so we can do a workshop. Both Miss Townsen and I would like to request that the security
situation, health and security situation be included in that workshop, please. Yes. Burbage. Okay. [Music] Uh, let me see. Is it do I have a motion to approve the minutes of the March 27th
meeting? So moved. Second. Motion uh by Mr. S, second by Mr. Bates to accept to uh yeah to approve the minutes from our March 27th, 2025 meeting. All in favor say I. I opposed. And then just
confirming that our next meeting is June 26. Anybody have any other business before we shut down here? Nope. Seeing none, uh 356 we'll uh motion to adjurnn. So moved. First,
second, third. All done. Thank you. [Music]