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[Music] Good evening. This is the May 7th, 2025 Seminal County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This board is a seven member board appointed by the board of county commissioners. A quorum has been
established to hold tonight's meeting. Public hearing items acted upon by this board are referred to the board of county commissioners for further consideration. Board members present tonight are me, Chairman Mike Loren, Vice Chairman Tim
Smith, Commissioner Dan Lopez, Commissioner Carissa Lahan, Commissioner Richard German. Staff present tonight are Doug Mary Sigara, development services deputy director, Joy
Giles, Planning and Development Division Manager, NASA Burker, Deputy County Attorney, Hillary Peyton, Planner. Tammy Bushwood, PNZ Board Clerk. Tonight's meeting is going to go
as follows. Staff will introduce the item. The applicant will present their item. Audience members wishing to speak will then be heard. Audience participation requires each speaker complete a comment card and give it to the clerk. Comment cards are
located in the lobby. Please indicate on the comment whether you want to make oral comments. Written comments will also be accepted. Speakers should restrict their comments to information directly related to the items being heard. When called, speaker should
approach the microphone clearly stating their name and address for the record. The board may ask questions of the speaker. After all speakers have been heard, public comment will be closed. The applicant will be given a chance for rebuttal. Any items shown, such as videos, presentations, pictures, or maps
must be left with the clerk for the public record. Items shown from electric devices should be emailed to the clerk. A motion will be made and seconded. Board discussion may occur and conclude with a vote. I will request a roll call
vote for any split votes. We'll start with the acceptance and approval of proof of publication. Do I have a motion? Motion. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Seeing none. Motion passes. Uh
next we'll move on to the approval of minutes. Uh does the board have any changes? Do I have a motion? So moved. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed? Seeing none. Motion passes. Uh, next we'll move on to the public hearing
items. The Tron Hookah Lounge Special Exemption. Hillary Peyton. Proceed. Good evening. Hillary Peyton, Planning and Development. Let me get this caught up. This item is a request for a special exception for the Trang Hookah Lounge
for an alcoholic beverage establishment in the Deep Lake Plan development on 4 acres located on the southwest corner of Alma Avenue and Deep Lake Road. The applicant currently operates an existing Hoopa Lounge with a 2COP beer and wine alcohol license and is now requesting a special exception to increase their
alcohol license to a 4 COP liquor license for on-site consumption. The establishment was granted a beer and wine license in 2019 for incidental sales in association with the hookah lounge in in pursuant to section 30.6.6.2 se section B of the seminal
county land development code a special exception is required when the sale of alcohol is not incidental to other products offered for sale. It was later determined that per section 30.6.6.2 2 subsection A2 incidental sales only pertains to establishments selling
groceries and household dry goods and bonafide restaurants. All other uses would require approval of a special exception. When the applicant requested to upgrade their existing alcohol license from 2COP to 4 COP in 2024, they were denied and advised that a special exception would be required for their
alcoholic beverage establishment. The Hookah Lounge, excuse me, sells hookah products, beer, wine, and appetizers, and is approximately 2,000 square feet in size. Located within an existing shopping plaza, the establishment seats 62 patrons inside
and 22 patrons on the outdoor patio for a total of 84 seats. The hours of operation are currently 6:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m., 7 days a week. Section 30.6.6.2 2 subsection D of the Semino County Land Development Code states that any establishment selling alcoholic
beverages for on-site consumption shall maintain separations from all churches and schools. The hookah lounge meets the separation requirements in compliance with the Seminal County Land Development Code section 30.3.5 community meeting procedures. The applicant conducted a community meeting
on April 3rd, 2025. Details of the community meeting have been provided in the agenda package. Section 30.3.1.5 of the San County Land Development Code states that certain criteria must be met for the board county commissioners to approve a special exception request. Staff finds
that the request meets the four criteria with the recommended conditions as stated in the approval development order. In addition to the typical conditions of approval for special exceptions, staff is recommending that the seating capacity be capped at 84 seats, that the outdoor patio area be
closed at 1000 p.m. each night, and that no amplified sound or outdoor entertainment occur outdoors at any time. Staff has received one letter of support and three letters of opposition from property owners in the town home development that the hookah lounge abutz, which is on the dis for your
consideration. Staff requests the board of county commissioners approve the special exception with the conditions as stated in the associated development order for an alcoholic beverage establishment in the PD zoning district on 4 acres located on the southwest corner of Aloma Avenue and Deep Lake Road. This
concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions. Questions from the board. Hillary, um, is the applicant in agreement with the additional staff recommendations, the the closure of 10 outdoors, the cap on the seating? Um, I advised them of it. I
didn't receive any feedback. Okay. Any questions? Uh, is the applicant here and would they please come up and Did you have anything to present for us tonight? My name is Denise Moral. I'm working with the owners of Tyrron Hookah
Lounge um in this endeavor. Um we are just basically agreeing with whatever conditions you guys lay out. We've agreed as we did in the public hearing, the public meeting that we held to put a regulator on the um stereo so that it
only goes a certain level so it doesn't disturb the the people behind us. Um, we are okay with closing the uh patio at 10:00 a.m. 10 p.m. I'm sorry. I'm a little nervous. I don't like talking in front of people. Um, it's okay. Take
talk. We're We're great with closing the patio and we don't mind capping the amount of seats to the required amount. I'd like to add that the hookah lounge only p has patrons that are 21 years and older.
It's mostly a lounge. There is no um young kids as you'd like to put it u or as you could put it um running around the parking lot or anything like that. So that's something I wanted to say.
Any questions of the applicant? I don't have any. All right. See none. Um, if we're ready, I'll uh move on to um uh the audience speaking if that's all
right. Yeah. Okay. I do have one um public comment card here. Uh Emily Elliot, you're in the audience and um it's an opposed comment card for the board. My name is Emily Elliot. I live
at 8586 Fall Staff Place in the residential neighborhood that abuts the um Tyron Hookah Lounge. I'm opposed to this uh business getting the alcoholic beverage license due to the fact that the last four years um personally I've
had to call the seminal county sheriff's office on numerous occasions for noise ordinance nuisance issues and they did not meet uh on multiple occasions this the state and also seminal county ordinances for respecting
my rights as a homeowner and to respect the fact that they were disturbing me in my doicile with excessive music and everything else that goes with a business that operates in an after hours capacity from 6:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. sometimes till 3:00 a.m. in the morning.
My question for you all to consider in whether or not you approve this is would you want a business that operates after hours from 6:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. behind your house? And for most people considering what their establishment, I'm not saying they can't operate as a
business, but what it draws into the area I feel is a detriment to our neighborhood and to the residents of the neighborhood considering that we are a familyoriented neighborhood and it it brings no value ad to our area and it only potentially increases the
calls for service to Semino County Sheriff's Office, the fire department. It increases the chances of people consuming alcohol, now liquor, not just beer and wine, that are now potentially on the road. There have been numerous accidents at the intersection of Deep
Plake Road and County Road 426 or Aloma Avenue. you're increasing your chances for potential DUI incidences and furthermore other activities that will increase when you offer bringing in alcohol into a business and in a
nightclub with quotes in in there even though they're saying they're operating as a lounge and serving food. To what extent I'm not sure of what that is, but that's all I have. Thank you. Is there any questions?
Emily, just a quick comment. Yes, sir. Um, we're a recommending body to the county commission. First of all, um, they've asked for an adjustment to their license. Our determination only has to do with does it fall properly under a
zoning and land use category. We don't have anything to do with the noise. Right. I understand. So, you're going to have to take that up with a the county commission or continue to do so with the sheriff's department, which we do. Okay. I mean, alls we can do is say, does it conform to uh our rules and
regulations or ordinances and go from there? Yes, sir. Okay, understood. I have nothing else. Thank you. Thank you. Um Hillary, is the applicant's offer of putting a volume regulator on the
outside sound, outside music or sound, is that part of the development order, or am I just missing it in here? No, that was the first I've heard of that recommendation or suggestion from an applicant. The current This is Na Borker for the record. The current conditions, you're not allowed to have any amplified
sound outside. Outside. They were talking about the inside. Oh, inside. Okay. But you can make that part of the conditions, right, of the approval. Yeah. There's there's um nothing. Are you talking about the condition for the
regulator on the a sound regulator inside? Yeah. If that if that would be helpful or other some type of noise deadening for the indoors. I was just asking because the applicant's offering that and it seems
like it would relieve some of the existing neighbors concern. So I just wanted to know if I needed to add that to a motion or if it was already in there somewhere. Yeah, you would need to add it to a motion as an additional condition and then state the, you know, specifics of the condition.
Okay. Any is it okay if I go ahead and close public comment? Well, I would ask one more time if there's anybody else. Yeah. Is there anybody else in the audience that'd like to speak on this either for or against it? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and close public comment. Um applicant, you can
rebuttal if you want. Comment on the suggestion of having the filter on. I guess the um the actual the whole talk of the regulator came up during the public meeting that we had in the Ovito Mall. Um it was in my minutes
when I gave to Miss Patton. Um they're still willing to do that. They don't want to disturb anybody. They just want to have their club. And to be quite honest, the club is going to be there regardless of whether they are accepted
for the 4 COP or not. And we just want to make we're trying to make the residents as happy as possible in the situation.
But my personal feeling is that whether it's beer and wine or alcohol, it's one and the same. I mean, you drink four beers, you've had a shot. You know what I'm saying? So, um I don't think that
that really has any relevance on you guys your guys decision. It's just that we do meet the criteria for the increase in series and we would like to be able to exercise that right.
Have a question uh in the um can you expand a little bit on that? There was uh some comments made about hiring security or uh making the venue soundproof or even uh having uh no music Sunday through Thursday. Do you mind expanding on that and what those
conversations? that came up in the in the public meeting as well. And um the owners which are sitting up there had offered to put soundproofing in the in the club so that they didn't disturb the residents. They're pretty much willing to do anything that they have to do in
order to try and keep everybody at peace. Um the regulator was the big thing on the music because that seemed to be the people that came to the public meeting. It seemed to be their biggest concern was the noise. um they're willing to do whatever it
takes to keep that down and they still stand by their decision to keep the music off between Sunday and Thursday. Thank you. Any other questions, discussion of the board? Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion. Okay. Um,
I'd like to make a motion to recommend the board of county commissioners approved the special exception with the conditions as stated in the associated development order for an alcoholic beverage establishment in the PD zoning district on 4 acres located on the southwest corner of Aloma Avenue and
Deep Lake Road and that they as well include a volume regulator on all outdoor and indoor music and sound. I second. I have a first and a second. Any discussion
or all those in favor? I I those opposed seeing none. Uh motion's approved. Thank you for that. All right. Um let's go ahead and uh close the public hearing with that. Um closing business.
Joy, do you have anything uh for the board tonight? Yes, I do have a few items. Uh first and foremost, I would like to formally introduce Dagmarie Cigara as our uh new deputy director for development services. Uh Dagmarie comes from St. Cloud where she was the deputy
director uh for the community services or community development division, excuse me. And prior to that, she was a senior planner for Semino County. So, we are very happy to welcome her back. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Thank you. So, we have no one from engineering anymore. Is that right, Joy? Say that
again. We have no one from engineering. Uh we are we are going through the hiring process currently for that position. Yes. So hopefully we will have that filled soon. We will keep you updated on that. Uh second, I just want to uh let
the board know that we will be uh conducting the second uh BCC workshop on May uh 13th for the land development code updates. So we are we are hoping to bring that to the board uh either in
September or October. Of course that may change but that is the anticipated timeline for that. And then um last we will not be having a meeting in June because uh we don't we don't have an agenda for June. Uh so our next PNZ
meeting is scheduled for July 2nd. So, we just want to make sure that there's no conflict with the, you know, the July 4th uh holiday. If a July 2nd works for everyone, we will keep that date. Otherwise, we can discuss an alternative. Does anybody know they're currently
going to have an issue with July 2nd? Currently, it's fine. Currently, I may I may have an issue. Okay. So, we can handle that. Yeah. Okay. All right. And so, that is all I have for this evening.
Okay. Uh, does the board have anything to discuss? Move to adjourn. All right. Second. [Music]