Allegiance. Pastor Andy Sles from Church --------- Together will lead us in prayer and Mr. Joey Coat of our uh veteran services manager will lead us in the pledge. Please rise. Let us pray. Gracious and loving God, we pause today
with gratitude for the privilege of living in Seolon County, community we love and are proud to call home. Thank you for its beauty, its people, its opportunities, and a spirit of cooperation that continues to lift and enhance the lives of all who live here.
We pray especially this morning for those in Jamaica and those in the path of Hurricane Melissa, praying that you would protect them and give them your peace. We pray as well for our county as we grieve the loss of some of our
teenagers. and we pray for your comfort and your peace to surround the memorial services of two of those young people today. We give thanks for the gift of good government and processes that help and guide us towards what is best for our
shared future. Bless these leaders with wisdom and clarity and courage that their decisions may reflect mercy and our shared common good. In your holy name we pray. Amen.
>> Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Thank you, gentlemen. sincerely appreciate that. If everybody would just take a moment, check your cell phones, any other electronic devices you may have, and silence those, please. Next up is our proclamations, awards, presentations.
We're going to do two proclamations in a row and then we will take a break and give the opportunity for some photographs to be taken and then we'll get to the seminal 250. So up first is going to be item number one, proclamation proclaiming November 11th, 2025 as Veterans Day. This will be read
by Commissioner Constantine. Thank you very much, Commissioner. And um for all those veterans here today, especially those that work for Seminal County, thank you very much for being here and uh we certainly welcome you, but thank you for everything that you do
uh each and every day for the people of Semino County. So, I will move the proclamation of the Semol County Board of County Commissioners proclaiming November 11th, 2025, Veterans Day in Semino County, Florida, and recognizing Semino County veterans for their outstanding services to the
United States. Whereas at 11:00 a.m. on November 11th, 1918, after four years of bitter conflict, the world rejoiced and celebrated the signing of armistice by the Allied forces and the Federal Republic of
Germany for the secession of World War I. And whereas to remember the sacrifices that men and women made to ensure lasting peace on November 11th, 1919, President Woodra Wilson proclaimed
Armistice Day in the United States. And whereas on June 4th, 1926, the United States Congress passed a concurrent resolution requesting that President Calvin Culage issue a proclamation to observe November 11th
with appropriate ceremonies. And whereas on May 13, 1938, 20 years after World War I, Congress passed an act making November 11th in each year a federal holiday, a day to be
dedicated to the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as Armistice Day. And whereas to honor an American veterans of all wars, President Dwight David Eisenhower signed
into law a bill on June 1st, 1954 introducing by introduced by US Representative Edwin Ree of Kansas, officially renaming Armmesus Day to Veterans Day. And whereas in 1971, President Richard Nixon declared
Veterans Day would be observed on the 2nd November or second Monday in November. And whereas recognizing the historic and patriotic significance of commemorating Veterans Day on its original date, President Gerald Ford
signed public law 94-9789 Statute 479 on September 20th, 1975, returning the annual observance of Veterans Day to its original date of November 11th. And whereas approximately
200,000 service members transition from military to civilian life each year, returning to their communities across the nation. And whereas the National Association of Counties and the National Association of County Veteran Services officers invite the community to join
Operation Greenlight for Veterans, a program symbolizing hope, renewal, and forward movement in support of the veteran transitioning to civilian life. And whereas in observance of operation green light, Semino County encourages
its citizens to honor the service and sacrifices of veterans by displaying a green light in the window of their home or place of business from November 4th through November 11th. And now therefore,
be it proclaimed that the Semino County Board of County Commissioners does hereby designate November 11th, 2025 as Veterans Day in Semino County and calls upon the Semino County residents to honor the contributions of current and former members of the United States
Armed Forces. >> Second motion to second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? >> I. >> Thank you very much, Commissioner Conine. If you're a veteran, if you would just stand for a moment and be recognized.
[Applause] Thank you for your service. Stay tuned. We'll come down and get some photos in just a moment. Next item up is item number two, resolution honoring the retirement of Judge John L. Woodard. And this will be read by Commissioner
Lockhart. Commissioner, >> thank you so much. It truly is my honor to present this resolution to the Semino County Board of County Commissioners honoring the retirement of Judge John L. Woodard III. Commissioners, I move the following resolution. Whereas the
Honorable John L. Woodard III was admitted to the Florida Bar on March 28th, 1978 and has been board certified as a criminal trial specialist since 1988. And whereas Judge Woodard earned his bachelor of arts degree from the University of Florida and his jurist
doctor from Wake Forest University. And whereas prior to his judicial service, he served as an assistant state attorney in the 9th Judicial Circuit, practiced in private practice, was president of the Central Florida Criminal Defense Lawyers Association, and chaired the Orange County Bar Criminal Law
Committee. And whereas on May 2nd, 2007, Governor Charlie Christ appointed him to the Seminal County bench as county court judge. And whereas among his judicial assignments, Judge Woodard has been a lead figure in establishing the county court within the 18th judicial circuit.
He has also been significantly involved with specialized courts, serving both as the judge of mental health court and judge of the veterans court in Semino County. And whereas, Judge Woodard has helped secure federal grants to fund the mental health court, demonstrating dedication to addressing complex social
issues through through the judicial system. And whereas his professional service includes membership in many organizations, the Seminal County Bar Association, the Volley Williams Ends of Court, the Semino County Mental Health Task Force, serving on the Seminal
County Supervisor of Elections Canvasing Board, including a term as chair from 2010 to 2014. past membership in the Central Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, including serving as its president, and participation in national legal organizations.
And whereas his work has been recognized with multiple awards including the seminal county bar's lifetime achievement award, the bar's distinguished service award for his creation and implementation of veterans court, a certificate of appreciation from navy navy CB veterans of America,
the Gary formed award of judicial excellence, and the mai dicki judge of the year award. And whereas over his time on the bench, Judge Woodard has provided with fairness, compassion, and professionalism, championing access to innovative court programs, particularly
in the areas of mental health and veterans issues. Now, therefore, be it resolved by the board of county commissioners of Semino County, Florida, that we do hereby recognize and commend the Honorable John L. Woodard III for more than 18 years of dedicated and
distinguished service as county court judge, honoring his many professional accomplishments, judicial leadership, and his immeasurable contributions to Semino Countyy's legal and civic community. Be it further resolved that we extend our deepest gratitude to Judge Woodard for upholding the rule of law
with integrity, for advancing the cause of justice in all his rulings, and for his vision in establishing courts and programs which serve the most vulnerable among us. Be it finally resolved that we wish Judge Woodard a well-earned, restful, and joyous retirement with our very best wishes for health, happiness,
and continued service in whatever new ways he may choose to engage with our community. Adopted this 28th day of October, 2025. >> Motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I opposed like sign carries unanimous. Thank you, your
honor. All right, we're going to take a short break and get some photographs down on the floor if my fellow commissioners would be happy to join me. [Music]
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All All right, we'll give folks a few moments to uh exit the chambers, then we'll get back to it. >> That's pretty bright. >> It is bright. >> Are were we supposed to have those on when the veterans were up to take a picture? >> Gotcha. Don't hit the
>> I was given no instructions on >> to put in your window from November 4th to November. >> Supposed to take it home. When I first walked up, I thought it was cuz we were starting this new thing that every time you wanted to speak, you could turn the light on. >> I thought that was a pretty good idea.
>> Yes, >> Miss Bower, we're not quite ready for you. Give me just one second. >> Sure. >> We're going to ask our veterans services manager to come forward. Mr. Chairman, commissioners, Mr. Gray, Mr. Lour, good morning. Residents,
veterans, that all cleared out. Good morning. Um, I started in the VSO office about two months ago and every morning we go out to our lobby and the veterans in there are just down playing on their phones, not talking to each other, not conversating. So, our team decided to
change that. Uh, we start every day with a dad joke. Um, something so small means so much to somebody. So, today I want to start this with a dad joke. What does the airman do when he finds a
scorpion in his tent? >> Runs. >> He calls the front desk at the hotel and says, "Why is there a tent in my room?" >> Right. Exactly. >> There we go. >> Well said. >> Today, today we pause and honor the men
and women who answered the call of duty. those who stood ready to defend our freedoms, protect our communities, and uphold the values that define our nation. Our service represents courage, sacrifice, and unwavering commitment to something
greater than ourselves. As we celebrate Veterans Day, let us continue to honor their legacy, not only in words, but in actions that strengthen our veteran community and support the families that stand behind them. I also want to take a
moment to recognize Judge Woodard, who has served as a veterans court judge and is now retiring. Judge Woodard has made a lasting difference in the lives of so many veterans, offering them understanding, compassion, and a second chance. His dedication to helping
veterans rebuild their lives has le left an incredible legacy that we are deeply grateful for for his service both on and off the bench. Your recognition today and leaders like Judge Woodard show that our county does not take freedom or
service for granted. today reminds every veteran that their service matters, that their sacrifices are not forgotten, and that this community stands beside them. Not just on Veterans Day, but every day. From all of us that have
served, thank you for your respect, your recognition, and your commitment to our nation's heroes. Keep up the fire. >> Thank you. >> Welcome to Seino County. Yes, indeed. All right. Item number three is going to
be Miss Deborah Bower Seminal 250 >> presentation. >> Good morning, chair, commissioners, and staff. My name is Dr. Deborah Bower, and I'm here representing the Semino County Historical Commission this morning,
ready to give you your burst of history in a few minutes. So, hopefully I won't put anyone to sleep. So we give you a very brief overview of what the historical commission has been working on for the last four months in preparation for 2026. So what is the American
semi-quincentennial anniversary? Aside from being a word that if you try and say it too fast without having had your cup of coffee, you will inevitably get caught up in. It's really a short way to say happy birthday United States because it will be tuning 250 years old next
year on July 4th 19 or uh 2026. This process for looking at how to commemorate the American 250 is something that started on the federal level going back to 2016 with an act of Congress and then it's trickled down
through the federal and and state and now to the local level. So, these plans have been in process for quite a while and we've just kind of tried to help get Seminal County on page so that we're prepared to celebrate what I know will be a very happy time in in Seminal
County next year. The Florida 250 was created by Governor DeSantis in 2024 and he had initiated a plan and made it very clear that Florida 250 will be working with all 67 counties and all cities in the state of Florida on appropriate
commemorative and celebratory opportunities for the 250th next year. The Semino County Historical Commission, as you all know, one of our main goals and one of the main duties that we have is to help to console and advise you all being the county commission on matters
of historical significance within our county borders. With that goal in mind, on June 19th, the Semino County Historical Commission voted to create a subcommittee, officially known as the Seminal County Semiquincential Planning Subcommittee, or as we've been calling it for shortorthhand because that is far
too many syllables to say this early in the morning, seminal 250. And I was very honored to be elected by my fellow historical commissioners as the chair of that subcommittee. We've been working since June and we had a really crazy idea. We said what if we
try and get all of the stakeholders from Semino County core fund fundamental institutions being the county seven cities school district college and airport in the same place at the same time and tell everyone they're not
allowed to complain to one another but actually have to get along to try and come up with an appropriate set of ideas and recommendations to bring back to help coordinate this very large and very historically significant anniversary. across the county. And believe it or
not, that's exactly what we did. We went to the seven city managers, to the school superintendent, to seminal state college's president and the president of the airport and asked if they would each appoint a representative to serve on this subcommittee. And I'm very happy
and very grateful to all those individuals for sending one person who has met over the course of eight meetings for the last four months to try and figure out the best way forward. We had our unofficial kickoff that some of you were at at the Museum of Seminal
County History on July 31st. And we are now happy to be able to say that we have come up with a list of official recommendations for you all. Trying to be very cognizant of the fact that while we love to celebrate, we love to have a good time in Semino County, we also want to be good stewards of not trying to do
something that the pocketbook is not going to allow. So with that in mind, what we have done is we held these meetings because one of the things the historical commission felt very strongly about is that although we had buyin from the seven cities, the college, the airport, and the school district, we
also needed to have public input from public possible public private partnerships to make this a success all over so that all stakeholders in Semino County were represented in this process. And to that end, I'm very happy to say that over the course of those public
meetings, we had dozens of people show up representing various 501c3s and in their guys as private citizens and business owners to give their efforts and their two cents saying this is what we believe is the best way to celebrate.
So those goals aside from soliciting the public input, the other things that we worked towards was coming up with a written plan so that we could present it to you all that these are what we felt the stakeholders after getting that very long and process that process for for
public input. These are what the most popular and most feasibly logistical ideas were. The public meetings and their minutes I'm happy to say are all available. We have put them into the final report. But I wanted to give you all a little bit of
some of the highlights of some of the ideas that we came up with. Most of them you will be surprised to know in in no way that as the cities and the various host institutions started talking about, hey, what are you guys doing over in Altimont? Or hey, what is the city of
Ovido doing? Or the college or the school district, everyone very quickly from our first meeting says, we don't know. We'll get back to you. And so one of the wonderful things that came out of this process is it started all of the cities and the other institutions
thinking about on their own how individually they were going to start commemorating the 250th next year. At the same time those institutions were working towards their own personal city goals or or for the airport, the school district and the college. We started to
look at how we might be able to coordinate some ideas countywide on things that would be appropriate. One of the things that we did is, and I do want to give a shout out to Lori Bailey Brown's team, the state of Florida had set aside some grant funding, and we had
11 days from when we found out that the grant had opened to when we had it submitted, which what we had a lot of hopes about, but unfortunately did not qualify for the state funding. So that caused us to have to scale back some of our our recommendations, but I do want to give a shout out to Lori Bailey
Brown's team because they were nothing short of amazing and fantastic in in what we were able to accomplish. So that even though we weren't funded, we did fight the good fight and trying to make an effort. The other thing that I want to point out is many of these things were already being done in some way, but
the largest thing that we identified that was important for this was starting to coordinate so that the right hand and the left hand know what both sides are doing. And with that in some of the most popular ideas were for example establishing a special seminal 250
website. We found that in comparing works for other municipalities and counties in the state of Florida and throughout the United States, having a specially designated website with the listing of what's going on, when, where, and how was a very popular and very
universally suggested idea. Some of these other items would go through different various county departments. So, for example, working with local museums to host special themed museum exhibits. I'm happy to report that Bennett Lloyd, the museum coordinator for the Museum of Seminal County
History, already had planned to do a special exhibit dedicated to the 250th that will be opening in January. So again, it's really just trying to get the word out to various people that, hey, these things are in process and and this is what we would like everyone to know is going on so they can take
advantage of participating in these activities. Some of the other things were talks, uh, looking perhaps at trying to put out some, uh, public public relations media attempts. Uh, probably what my personal favorite was
was something that we came up with an idea called the Seminal County Liberty Tree Program with this idea that Semino County is Florida's natural choice with our emphasis on conservation in the environment. And so there were two suggested ways that every host institution, the county, the seven
cities, the college, the district, and the airport would plant a Florida elm tree in memory of what were the original liberty trees that were planted during the American Revolution to celebrate independence and patriotism. And if
there were not any baby trees that could be found through public private donations, although we've worked on gathering some potential sponsorship opportunities as well, that each group would be able to designate possibly an already existing tree as their liberty tree and maybe even name it for for PR
purposes. So, for example, in the city of Sanford, the city of Sanford might have the Liberty Tree uh Henry, you might have in Castlebury, the Liberty Tree Hibbert, you might and so on and so forth to kind of make it fun so that as we go forward, these are all ways to
remember and reflect and keep the commemoration going for all 12 months. Uh, as you can see here, the county manager and the comm's office were terrific in helping to get the original 250 logo that is presented at the very top. And I'm happy to show you the
various uh counties and or excuse me, cities and other presentations, logos that are going to be used all throughout next year by the others who adapted that original county for some type of continuity in marketing. So, with that having been said, um, if I can answer
any questions, I'm here. I just want to thank everyone for the opportunity and to speak with you and to present this information. Thank you. >> Thank you very much, Dr. Bower, and we sincerely appreciate all the work that the historical society has done on this. Um, and so we're looking forward to more
interaction as we get closer and getting these things pulled off. We'll start at the farm with Commissioner Lockhart, work our way across for any comments or questions. So, in some of my travels this last year, I've started picking up America 250 stickers at every little location
that I can find, and it's I don't have a laptop that I can stick them on, so I don't know where they're going. But, um, it might be some might be fun to have some type of a something that everybody could participate in that they could maybe it's a magnet on a car, something
that would be very a very simple design that could be shared that could get the message out. But um great job. Love the collaboration. >> Um if you could have a list of the various nonprofits that are participating, that would be helpful. >> We do in the final report. Okay. I I
know that some of your offices got draft versions of the report. I think one or two of you only may have gotten the formal, but we will make sure that we have the final version sent to all of your offices. >> Yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to be a Who is hosting the website? Uh, it was suggested through the county since this
was a county initiative through the county historical comm. >> It'd be great to have all of those nonprofits and those private organizations be able to have a link so that people can support the organizations that are supporting the project. Is there a um a um plan yet for
private companies who want to participate and perhaps donate funds? Is there a a list a um a you know for a thousand you get this for 5,000 you get that sort of thing? >> So we did not feel within our purposes because the historical commission can
only advise and present information. We did not feel it appropriate to go that far but what we did do is within the report we did notate public and uh other 501c3s and private businesses who have expressed an interest in being willing to partner as sponsors. Yeah, I think
the opportunity to let businesses participate would be um a really nice idea, too. So, thank you so much for your work. >> Thank you, >> Mr. Constine. >> Yeah. Um Dr. Bower, thank you very much again for um all your hard work, all the
hard work of your committee. Um, I just uh I think the Liberty Tree is a great idea and I hope that you keep pushing that and um you know I mean are you saying that each place would have a location or a specific location
like city hall or a park or something of that nature? Their choice of course. >> So it's been very well received by the seven various city managers. They one of the reasons because the original liberty tree was not a Florida elm, but in our
recommendation, we wanted to have something that would have a chance of surviving for however many years later. So, because a northern elm will not grow very well in Florida, Florida elm will because it's a native lifestyle or it's a native tree. Um, and it's seemed almost everyone is is on board with that
and they really like the idea of being able to point to this being a seminal 250 tree for many years to come. >> Well, congratulations. Great idea. Thank you, >> Commissioner Delari. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dr. Baile, well done. It's quite obvious that you and
your committee have spent a lot of time and effort on this, and I just want to commend you all for not only being transparent, but to reaching out to the community and all the other organizations. Well done. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner Her. >> I think everything's been said, although
I'll ask the county manager if there's action that needs to be taken in order to support the Florida Elm process. I'd be happy to make sure like usher that through our process so that we make sure that it's happening up here. Um, and I'm
sure it's premature today, but >> yeah. And know in fact, we're waiting for uh Dr. Bower's report and I'm glad the committee met and they have their recommendations. Now, what we're going to do, she's going to bring that to us and we're putting together a team of folks to see what type of
recommendations that uh that the county or um uh implications that it will be with the county. and then I'll bring if there's any cost to that or something I'll bring that back to the board. So, we're working on it. >> I think sometimes it's helpful that somebody steps out and says we are doing this that spurs along. So, if you need
that, let us know. >> We'll do I I will say the biggest ask right now is in one of the things the committee had decided was we didn't want this just to be a July 2026 like for 4th of July celebrate. the committee all felt through reflecting the various city
commission and city managers feedback and the respective boards was that this should be a plan for 12 months worth of commemoration. And so with that idea, in fact, really the most pressing need would be we're asking all of the various boards and city commissions to follow
hopefully the county commission by passing a proclamation declaring 2026 uh the year of commemoration for for the USA 250. And we're hoping to have that done in January just so we can kick off the year, right? Um, we kind of had this
idea that whenever we get ready to have proclamations and resolutions from all 11 founding institutions would be very neat and we felt appropriate. And so that would be I think the most pressing thing. But I will tell you and I do want to repeat this again. One of the things when we were going through, we had some
really cool ideas. I'm not going to lie to you. People were talking about doing drone shows. They were talking about extravaganzas and gallas. But we wanted to keep in mind that this is something where this is a luxury. This is a wand. This is our fund money. And so all of
the recommendations that we made were done so that there would be minimal budget impact if any type of financial contribution required at all if there are anything. So for example, there's a recommendation in there for the county to have a historical marker in recognition of the 250th. That's
something that museum staff already has budgeted has a line item. that money has already been dedicated for a marker. So, that would be something where we don't want to put a drain. We don't want to put an ask on needing more money when when there are, as I said, these are are
fun things that we'd love to have if we had, you know, for example, gotten the grant. I would be giving you guys a totally different presentation, but we wanted to be fiscally responsible as we came up with these ideas so that hopefully they could be implemented. >> We appreciate that. >> Good stuff. All right. Anything else?
>> Thank you, Dr. Ber, we sincerely appreciate it very much. >> Thank you all. >> Good work. >> Mr. County Manager, you say you'll collaborate and get back with the board? >> Yes, sir. >> Great. Giving you an update. >> All right. Next item up is going to by our county investment advisors report,
Mr. Scott McIntyre. >> Welcome again, Mr. McIntyre. Good morning. I didn't realize it had been um I I know it's been a month obviously since I've been here last time, but before we were here, the government had not shut down
yet and the government has shut down and that's going to have uh quite a few impacts as we go forward. A shutdown that lasts a couple of days is not impactful and there's not enough pain for anybody to step into action. But when you're at 28 days and you're a week
away from the longest in history and there's no, as far as I can tell, u movement toward the center at this point, I mean, theoretically, you could go on quite a while. I think both sides feel like they have the upper hand in terms of uh perception, and that's what
it's all boiled down to at this point. The thing that worries me is that um Thanksgiving is coming up, travel season, there there's three three impacts. um has a lot of impacts, but one of them is that uh essential workers that are that are working are not
getting paid. Military being the exception. Um but I'm thinking in terms of of TSA and in terms of air traffic controllers, I flew yesterday, it was it was more difficult than it than it should have been. I think as we approach the travel season, that's going to be a
bigger and bigger problem. And then uh we're also not getting economic data. So we missed the payroll report. we we will miss the October CPI report because it wasn't calculated. I think a lot of people feel like we're missing out on releases, but we're actually missing out
on calculations. Nobody's doing the the math. So, the employment reports are literally surveys that are being taken and there's no one to take the survey. So, there's going to be a hole in the data. CPI is literally folks that are that are checking on prices and reporting back and they're not checking
on prices. though even though we got a September CPI report uh which was necessary to to calculate the COLA increases for social security I'm not sure that there will be an October CPI report so in essence the Fed is flying
blind they're relying on some data that is that is uh coming from the private sector and and it's questionable about whether the market's going to embrace that private sector data or not. So, as usual, we're up here in a period where there's there's a transition that's
taking place and we're not really sure where it's going to go. Um, having said that, the the uh shutdown has not affected the bond market. Uh, I think yields are roughly where they've been. Um, one of the things that I've talked to a number of my clients about that makes it different from what we were
going through in July is that July was the debt service. Um, I'm I'm sorry, the debt ceiling. So the debt ceiling was extended so we don't have to worry about paying our bills. This is more about the budget going forward. So that's the distinction. Um treasuries are are being
paid. Social security is being paid. Veterans benefits are being paid. All that is happening. The question is going forward are we going to agree on a budget and and that's where we are. So I do want to mention that the labor market appears to have weakened. U most of the anecdotal data suggests that it's
weakening. That should keep the Fed on track to continue cutting rates. They meet this week. They're actually likely to announce very, very likely another 25 basis point cut tomorrow. Inflation continues to trend gradually higher. The
U CPI through September overnight, I'm sorry, the headline and the core CPI rate were at 3%. You know, the Fed's target is 2%, but 3% is okay. So, that keeps the Fed on track. This is the two-year Treasury note yield going back one year. You can
see what the trend is. The trend is that the expectation is that that rates will be lower in the future. So, the two-year note yield continues to fall. Although, on the tail end there, um it's risen a little bit. Again, I don't think the bond market's been affected by the shutdown at all.
So, these are where yields have been as as I've mentioned several times. you you basically see this meeting as of a few days ago and where we were in terms of yields over the course of the last three meetings yields of trend downward um and
the overnight pool rates which are essentially money market funds for local governments those yields are going to fall in conjunction with Fed rate cuts. So even though those rates there toward the bottom look pretty appealing, they'll be roughly 25 basis points lower
theoretically this week and then as we roll forward, there's one more Fed meeting in December. We expect the Fed will cut then as well. So we'll probably end the year, you can guess, 50 basis points lower on the overnight rate as well. Um upcoming maturities, you have a you
have a a meeting sort of in between those upcoming maturities on the 18th. So, we're going to address the the m first two maturities recent transactions. Uh there was a palm term pool rate that was rolled over roughly a
year to position for your expenses at a 393 which seemed really favorable at the time. And then there was some reallocation of of monies back into your your local banks which we' moved some money out. The clerk's office had moved some money out. This is reallocating it
back in. uh we like to keep a balance in in the local pools. So recommendations um the first is you have that large upcoming CD that's maturing and what we need to do is go to the bank and ask them if they'd like to keep that if they would. There's a negotiation process.
It's usually favorable because they don't want that money to leave so they'll pay a little bit more. I don't know where that's going to be, but my recommendation is that we attempt to roll that over and then uh there is room in in the term pools. Uh and and in
essence, what we'll be doing, assuming that you approve this recommendation, is uh investing into next summer again to to meet your expenses and then taking a small portion out into 2028. uh again kind of carrying forward to the extent
that we can lock it in longer with the expectation that the Fed is going to continue to cut into next year. Um portfolio yield as of September was 431. Um you had about 17% that was in
was was fully liquid. Uh you know that's been lower. There is some spending that's not reflected here at the end of October. Um, given the fact that those investments are not actually going to happen in October, your yield is going to be still roughly 430, which it wasn't
which isn't too bad. Um, I expect probably toward the end of November, it's probably closer to 420 or below 420. I'm going to step back. I know I've done a lot of speaking and I always get stumbled up on this. So, if I could ask for some help. >> All right. I'll look for a motion.
>> Chair Commission. Move to implement recommendations of our financial adviser based on the report submitted today and recommend the clerk implement said board recommendations. >> Second motion second. Any further discussion? >> Seeing none, all those in favor? I opposed like sign. Seeing none. Carries
unanimous. >> Thank you, Mr. We. We appreciate it very much. >> All right. Next up is going to be our consent agenda items. If there's anyone here that desires, excuse me, to speak on any of these items, please make sure you filled out a speaker's request form
in the lobby and get up to our clerk, Miss Dominique, here at the front and we'll make sure that you get an opportunity to speak on that item. Please identify the item on the agenda which you desire to speak about so we can make sure we can keep that straight. I will now go to the county attorney for
the rules of public participation, Miss Lour. Thank you, Chairman. Florida law provides that members of the public shall be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard on propositions before the board of county commissioners except when the board is acting on an emergency or ministerial matter or conducting a
meeting exempt from the requirements of the sunshine law. Individuals shall be permitted 3 minutes each for public comment or 6 minutes when the individual is an official representative of a formal association or group. The chairman may modify the maximum time for public comment at his sole discretion
when appropriate. Public comments on quasi judicial or other public hearing items will occur during the board's consideration of those items this afternoon. Public comments on pending procurement matters or on non-aggenda items shall not be permitted at this time. Members of the public desiring to
make comment must fill out a speaker form and present the form to staff and forms are available in the lobby. Mr. Chairman, >> thank you. Uh, Miss Ltor, these are constitutional officers consent agendum item number five and six. County managers consent agenda items 6A through
28. Mr. County manager, do you have any revisions? >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioners, uh, no revisions. So, the the consent agenda stands as presented. >> Thank you very much. Any individual commissioner desire to pull any item for
separate consideration? >> Mr. Chairman, I don't want to pull anything, but I just want to make a comment if you don't mind. >> Okay, sure. Go ahead. >> I think it's uh staff needs to be commended. Uh we've been asking staff for a while to do see them at risk and I see it moving in that direction and I
just want to compliment staff. >> Thank you >> uh for all their hard work to do that. Uh fully support all the items on the consent agenda. Uh, I would like to at some point get an update when the uh, owner's rep for item number 10 will be brought to us, but that doesn't need to
happen today, obviously. But I want to commend you all for the hard work that you've done. >> Thank you. >> Anything else? If not, I'll look for a motion. >> So moved items. >> I'll second the motion, >> which is item 5 through 28,
>> including 6A. >> Including 6A. Motion and a second. All those in favor I oppose like sign hearing. None carries unanimous. All right. Thank you all very much. And those who were here in attendance to uh
>> didn't go back to work. >> You can now proceed to uh go back to work or uh hang out with us the rest of the morning. We're getting ready to go in some work session um timings. All right, our first up is going to be
economic development update with Mr. Gee Kuna, our economic development tourism director. Mr. Gee, good morning everyone. For the record, Gee Couna, director of economic development and tourism. We're giving
our brief economic development update. Uh to start off the uh outline, we'll have Idma Stenman, our business development manager for uh big business in Semino County. We define big business as any uh business with 50 or more
employees. And then our uh economic development business manager, Estan Salariaga, will give an update on small business and entrepreneurship and also workforce development. and then we'll discuss the next steps of our labor
study. So, business profile within Semino County, uh we have a 4% unemployment rate, one of the low the lowest in the region, one of the lowest in the state. Uh per Scott McIntyre who presented, we
did see an uptick as well on the last uh Bureau of Labor Statistics report. So did every other county. We are one of the canaries in the coal mine. So, we're very anxious in uh awaiting the next BLS report as is everyone. Our average
annual wage $69,000 a year. That is one of the highest in the state with 95% of our registered businesses being at 50 employees or less. Our largest employment sector pretty much throughout
all of Central Florida is your retail industry. But our highest paying sector uh paying sector is management of companies and enterprises. Those are our headquarter offices that we have here in Simma. So this is one of my favorite charts
that IMMA Stenman provides us. This tells us about 15 different stories all in one. But I'm going to give us the highlevel uh overlook. The blue bar going towards your left shows the growth and increase in registered businesses at
50 employees or less. While the line, the orange line shows the increase in salaries as we get to the larger scale businesses. One of the proud points for Semino County and our community is you
don't see a drastic drop between that orange line from big business to small business. That is something to be very very proud of. So in Semino County to work for a small business does not mean you are taking a significant pay cut
allin. This contributes heavily to our quality of life for every employed individual in Semino County. Now our pie charts here on the left this is uh this data is gathered from our partnership with Florida Commerce. So, one of the
key factors here to continue to remember as you see a yearly uh agreement across your desk from Florida Commerce, this is the data that that we receive from them. On the left, the pie chart there, percent of businesses by industry in
Semino County. And on the right, the pie chart there is employment by industry. As you look at your top three, top four, you see the balance of high wage industries such as your headquarters
with also medium to lower wage industries such as retail. So the balance in Seino County as it currently stands is very strong across all of our research. Now I'd like to bring up Steenman to discuss the big business
outlook. >> Thank you. Good morning, Ma Stegenman, business development manager in the office of economic development and tourism. There you go. Uh we continue to track our top employers, the largest employers
in Semino County, both in the private as well as in the public sector. For the public sector, Semol County um public schools is always has been traditionally one of our top employers. Continues to be the case. Those numbers are actual verified with each of those organizations in the private sector. Um
also has been continuing um Advent Health is our top employer. You can see some of our top employers in the private sector are in the healthcare industry as well as in um um business finance and insurance industries.
We also continue our relationship with the Orlando Economic Partnership, the OEP. And through that that collaboration, we have established uh in the last um year or so about five projects. Four of those were expansions. Um the most significant expansion that
we saw in last year was uh the BNY uh Melon Bank of New York expansion. originally had um announced,00 jobs and then announced another 500 jobs and those are highpaying jobs n at 90 uh,000 a year uh salary. This
collaboration also includes the um u promotion of sites, specific sites uh through the dirt program um bright u made as well as assistance and visits to businesses and some strategies development for economic development
with the economic development uh committee and they provide a report quarterly and this is their third quarter of uh last year where we can see that these are only the leads or the projects that are in their pipeline that have um for which they have submitted
information or a site in Seminal County. So, this is very promising. This is things we're looking forward to. And with that, I'm going to pass it now to Esteban. Good morning, commissioners, county leadership. Estean Salariaga, Seminal County Economic Development. Uh to start our highlight, we're going to go dive
right into the Center for Business Development with Seminal State College. Uh the center for business development is currently operating as incubator at 96% occupancy with uh strong job creation, capital formation and consulting hours. Uh the center for business development also is home to the small business development center that
provides the the consulting hours to um business owners in the incubator. Um we wanted to share some impact with uh client highlights uh from each of our partners. Uh so today I'm sharing with you in America with grace, grace odo, an educational service, specifically uh English language services uh for
non-English speakers. Um Grace through uh the center for business development has doubled their revenue and and been able to expand their business beyond central Florida um just to show the power of the ecosystem. Gra uh in America with grace also has partnered with Prospera uh for different business
services. the UCF incubation program. Again, I want to highlight that the uh UCF incubation program really does have a niche of high-tech companies in their incubator. Um that again is showcased by the strong ROI of $1.50 per public
dollar invested. Uh there are also currently three international soft landing uh companies tied to the offices uh over at the Heathro campus. Um, you may have seen a highlight of that via Spectrum News where they highlighted an AI company who recently joined the program.
To emphasize the work that the UCF incubation program does, uh, we have Time Plast who this year was able to raise 1 million in funding that supported again a le leasing of assets in the county, specifically a warehouse space in Castlebury. For other resource partners that we work
with, we have Prospera. Uh, Prospera continues to support multilingual business owners. Um they do that through various ways, consulting, workshops, events. Um the business advancement services I want to specify are services that they identify with the clients they
work with and those take form in the shape of grants that support them with accounting services, legal services, and marketing uh services. Um the National Entrepreneur Center has seen an increase in the use of our residents engaging with Central Florida BizLink. Uh that is their online platform for business
consultation. Um they've also highlighted that 21 of our residents have gone further and gotten business plans created in partnership with their consultants. Uh two notable county workshops were uh show me the money and AI tools both hosted here in Sanford. Uh and lastly the Central Florida
International Trade Office uh beyond the 49 uh consultations totaling 102 hours also earlier this year uh served as a subject matter expert for tariffs. They hosted a tariff workshop at the economic development hub. And before I go on to the next slide, I want to share that both of these partners have been
utilizing the economic development hub located at the seminal state college etho campus quite a bit. Um they exclusively host their uh workshops now moving forward uh at that location which is exciting. Uh two highlights for Prospera and for National Entrepreneur Center. We have JL Evolution with
Prospera also celebrated at the recent success stories that they hosted a few weeks ago. Uh JL Evolution is a tech company based here in Sanford who benefited from those advanced business services. Uh CFITO uh the the segment that supports foreign
trade from the national entrepreneur center uh supported her manufacturing again a local entrepreneur a local manufacturer here that specializes in adhesives. Uh they were introduced to XM bank which is the federal government's traum credit partner for uh financing
trade um uh activities. Now diving into workforce development. Uh we start with seminal commits uh showing the impact there as they continue to uh serve our unemployed, underemployed and underserved populations through skills training and certification programs. Those are
updates updates as as of the end of September. Career Source Central Florida hosted three programs during the summer. Two adult cohorts and one uh youth program or youths as my cousin Vinnie says. >> Uh I had to do it. I'm sorry. I had to do it. Be be careful now.
>> Be careful. >> Yo, >> I got you. Sorry. I had to do it. I couldn't I couldn't miss the opportunity. Um they they had an 86% placement rate with the adult cohorts which is incredible. Uh and uh as many of you participated in the youth program, the celebration of these young
adults uh going through different county departments to experience careers in government um incredibly impactful. We heard from many of the students who shared their experiences there. Starbase uh hosted in partnership with the county and the city of Sanford uh 41 high school and college students to create a
model and simulation project surrounding the Barbara Lee uh and the uh manufacturers association of central Florida uh this week on Thursday is actually hosting the maiden central Florida expo which will be connecting 200 registered students to that event to
a uh a pipeline of workforce needs uh within the manufacturing industry. And lastly, uh, as we've done in the past, Seminal, we uh, the economic development team has supported Seminal County Fire Department with recruitment videos, tying that to, uh, collegiate athletes, uh, to to build a a desire for, uh,
folks for those students to, uh, join the fire department. Uh, I'm happy to announce that we will be, uh, starting a new project in January in partnership with the, uh, fire department to create more content. Uh, so excited to be able to showcase that soon. um and to pass it
back to the birthday boy. Okay. Uh for upcoming projects. Thank you. >> Thank you. And and one of the points on uh the incubators uh we work with both Semino State College and UCF to continue to look at the best strategic locations
uh for each of the incubators. We are aware of the current developments at one of our incubators and we're working hand inand on all best uh possible outcomes for the county specifically. Now, last
uh economic development presentation that we had, there was a request for a labor study to have a better understanding in return to office concepts in Semino County and also the feeder system into our large employers.
So now that we've started this new fiscal year, we've allocated the resources necessary to launch the largest labor study that economic development has conducted in Semino County. We expect that this labor study, the first draft, will be completed on
calendar Q1 2026. Our team will be engaged with all the largest employers along with our current partners uh stakeholders to have a better understanding of what that hybrid did uh
virtual and uh office worker looks like in Semino County and also who are the feeders into these large employers. We will then bring that data back to the BCC and from that that data that we
gathered, we will look at possible next steps in updating possible ED strategies that may include job growth incentive uh review as well. And with that, I want to open the floor for any questions.
>> Very good. We'll start at this end with Commissioner Her. Uh, I'm going to go through questions first. So on 858, Orlando Economic Partnership, it's the one with the funnels, the sales funnels.
Are those specific to Semino County? >> No, those are to the entire region, including of Semino County. >> No, I'm sorry. Those were the seminal county specific. >> Oh, the Okay. Well, even better. Yes. So, yes. So, uh we received two of the
funnel reports. This would be Yeah, >> if I may add, uh there um the um of the many leads they have, they respond and they submit properties and sometimes there will be a property that's submitted that is an Orange County and another property that is Semino County.
So, the same project may be counted twice because of that. So these are the ones that have include seminal county information or seminal county sites. >> This so the this is fantastic information. We should be getting this regularly
specific to seminal. We can get it along with the regional but I really want to understand uh how we fit into the bigger >> portion of the program. So that's fabulous. Thank you. Um, I also wanted to point out, gee, that we serve donuts
in the lobby for your birthday. Um, but that was all just for you. >> And then let's go to 856. Um, I think at some point, so this I'm going to do a commercial. I did the ribbon cutting for BNY and I think next year we're going to see
BNY on this list. It was simply phenomenal in terms of an employer that's been brought into this area. That is remarkable. It is one of three financial hubs in the country. It is not simply back office anymore. In all
honesty, I did not know that until I got there. That was intentional because it was brought in after 911 as a back office redundancy shop and now it is one of the financial hubs within the country. It's significant, significant,
significant. So, um, and I would tell you they have a philosophy of, um, unrealistic hospitality. I thought this was interesting as a core as a core belief. Never have I ever been welcomed anywhere
like I was welcomed at this facility. Literally met me in the parking lot, which freaked me out just a little bit. I'm going to tell you, in this day and age, right? Somebody standing there waiting. It was literally amazing. So that's the work that comes of this that started a decade ago that has now
blossomed into a a really beautiful relationship and part of that is because of partnerships with the city. They mentioned the school districts like they get it. It so it was cool. That piece was cool. I'll take that out of my district report this afternoon. I was going to talk about that.
Um, and then on 868, I would point out, and I don't know this to the be to be the case, but there may be an opportunity on that survey to partner with some of our commercial realators to get really good survey data. I I
think they would help point you in the direction because they know what's sitting empty and those employers probably aren't going to answer the survey unless prompted. We really need good information on that. My last comment is I'm going to give a shout out to Amy Kirkland from Seminal State who
does a phenomenal job at the incubator out at the port for small businesses and has been doing so for a long time. We appreciate you chairman >> commissioner. >> Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Uh Gee staff well done. I like the presentation. Very uh detail oriented on
the form that you have there that shows the large employers. Uh come back to that real second. Uh you did mention a little bit about uh the new expansion of the Bank of New York. How would that fit into that chart uh not just for the employees but square footage and can you
talk a little bit about that because that is a big uh uh project for us and we didn't hear that much about it locally. >> So the uh BNY Melon expansion actually dates back multiple years. Um it's it's
actually multiple projects at this point. So it's very exciting. This was a project through and through that was brought to us by the Orlando Economic Partnership through their relationship. It initially started off as project hub
and then through project hub it grew into now the BMY melon expansion and this may not possibly be the end of that expansion. So one of the exciting parts is it is an unincorporated seminal. So we're very excited about that. But BMY
Melon did not come to the county for any local incentives. This is one of the projects that's had the highest wages and to have a project such as this that may not be finished even though we've seen reports out there already in the
the actual uh uh deliverables that we've seen for this project. There still may be more jobs, maybe a capital expenditure or two, but we expect possible wages. Uh, this project dates all the way back to 2023.
Uh, and one of the indirect impacts from this project has actually been towards the Colonial Town Park area as they're seeing their sales grow. Um, as we've had uh, uh, qualitative data told to us, but also the Weston Hotel and the
Hampton Hotel there that contribute into the tourism improvement district. So they have seen now their sales, rentals, food and beverage and occupancy grow with this new market that has come in. >> So one of the reasons why I wanted you
to do all this was because on projects that may seem small in the beginning, they're not >> and it takes time and a lot of cultivating not just from our staff but from the OEPS and well as the region. So I want to compliment you all on that.
So, it's it's important for us to grow those small projects like you're doing. So, I wanted to make sure we talked about that. Thank you, >> Commissioner Constantine. >> Thank you very much. Um, first of all, Gee, as I go around the community all the way
from, you know, Orange County through Valuchia County. Uh, when people talk to me, um, one of the things that I'm always getting is, uh, compliments from about you and your staff. So, congratulations. Also the same thing goes with uh uh our relationship with
OEP and how you have cultivated that relationship you again you and your staff and how it's become great. The thing that you know I I I was going to comment a little bit on um you know the opening in New York because I saw the pictures and they were phenomenal. I was
not there but um you know congratulations and it's another example of how Seanol County sells itself you know I mean I from the very beginning I thought that we were you know far too easy and and in and trying to come up
with incentives to come here when if you want to come to Central Florida uh there is no school district there is no uh you know location that has more of a friendly atmosphere you're in business relations, you know, the best place to
raise a family, best place to to live, you know, and the whole thing. So, it's once again, it's just wonderful to see that that sales pitch is working as opposed to uh I want to come 20 miles and how much are you going to give me?
>> Thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. Commissioner Lockhart. >> Um very excited to see uh the study as it moves forward and look forward to um the ultimate report. Um I I think
measuring what we want to see happen in this community and and in whether or not incentives are the right way forward and certain projects um will have a lot to do with the outcome of that study.
um how things are measured and why they're measured and you know we've talked about this before in other realms. Numbers are funny things and you can make them show what you want them to show um sometimes. So I am a little curious about the largest employer data.
The we have an asterisk at the bottom that says that we don't use this doesn't include multi-sight retail employers. Yes, >> but it does include multi-sight healthcare delivery systems. >> So, I'm a little perplexed. Does Advent
Health, does that include centric care? Do these include their the dock in the box facilities as well or is this Advent Health hospitals or the college like what is tell me what if you can because I know these aren't your numbers. That's the other thing that I think is
interesting is we have not we have not directly verified with each company these numbers. So, OBJ doesn't always get it right. >> Yes, >> we've noticed that before because they said that Seminal State College had 14,000 employees. We do not, by the way, putting on my college hat. So, verifying
numbers from OBJ is, I think, critical moving forward. So, help me with with understanding where these numbers are actually coming from and what they include. >> So, I'm going to ask IDMAN to come up for for as she handles our research and the vast sources that that are on there.
But one of the things to keep in mind, for example, if you consolidated those figures, and Idma's going to bring in the data, you're going to end up with Home Depot, you're going to end up with Publix as those being the largest employers when we know not every Home
Depot is owned by the same person. Not every Publix is owned by the same person, but it will >> they are. >> No. No. Uh so it would make the retail companies it would make the individual box become the largest employers all
together. So I'm going to bring you up to to better explain this. >> Maybe I want another column. >> Yes, we can add that column. >> Yes, we can add that data for sure. >> Sure. >> Uh thank you for asking. The um uh
information specifically about Advent Health includes about four different business names. um um Advent Health um Information Systems, uh Florida Hospital Sanitarium and some other similar names.
Um that might change slightly but it does not include like a physician's office or uh central care unless they are when they report if when they report to the state their job numbers if they are including in their a uh central care
facilities or specific doctor's offices but they are not in the data that I have. not specifically listed as individual doctor's offices or delivery centers just uh hospitals and their uh they have a I think assisted and
assisted living facility and um and there's uh headquarters those kinds of and different departments from their headquarters um they did not list something like a college in their in this particular listing but there's
about five business names and Um, and for HCA, it again, it's just, I think, um, uh, one business name that they're reporting in there. >> I'd love to better understand what's included in those numbers. >> I can get that to you. Absolutely. >> That would be super helpful. And I'd
love to understand it from the employer, not from OBJ. >> Well, this is not necessarily from OBJ. >> So, we have um I compiled. So I have a column for what is the OBJ saying, what is the state saying, what is the data
axle saying, what is the Dunham Brad Street saying and I look at all some of them is like well this is not in Dunham and Brad Street but it's in the OBJ this is not in data access. So and I looked at the numbers and it's like oh this is way off and then we verify what the state is saying what they are reporting to the state that is data that is
confidential and that we cannot specifically you know publicly say it. So that's why I use different data sources so that we can >> um and and round it up and and do this kind of magic. So we're not saying the state
told us that this company has this many employees, you know. So that's why we handle it that way. But we're happy to definitely share all the details of all this data to you with. >> I I do think it's important. Yes, I understand you don't want to necessar necessarily have all of you know all
every Publix employee, but I will tell you >> that is a huge workforce opportunity for our community and they are I mean I'm the fifth generation of my family shopping at Publix. I am a Publix girl. So I know that a lot of students for who
are students at Seol State or high school students, Publix is a phenomenal opportunity for them to be. So I just it kind of I want them on the list. I just want them maybe in a different category if we want to categorize them differently because I think retail jobs are important when we look at that pie chart
>> of um >> oh I don't know what page it was on where was the pie chart you know retail is 9.9% it's probably the fourth largest piece of the pie on the pie chart >> so uh commission >> I'm just yeah
>> we can provide all the follow-up data that is not an issue at all. Yes. >> Um I think to Commissioner Her's point talking about the funnels is if there's I understand that maybe they all started out with being you know they were in
Oyola's p bucket and they were in Seminal's bucket and then maybe they funneled down but I'd like to see how many of those where did they start? Did they just look at Seminal initially or were they looking at everything in the region? I'd love to kind of like get a better idea of what's at the top of the funnel
>> and and part of the detailed breakdown that will look at the funnel as well are the other counties that are also being considered within that project. So that in the funnel when you look at all the projects as of now
>> as of now for example when we look at 42 total projects top of funnel we cannot confirm at the moment that we are the only county that those 42 projects are looking at. So we will also ask OEP so they know we are one of the sites for
those 42 projects but we may not be the only site for all 42. >> I want to know who we're beating out in the competition. >> Yes. Yes. >> Because I think and commissioner her you know clarify your question because I think you said you asked for it for seinal specific and I think I just heard
that that's not possible. >> No this is seinal specific. So this is a salesunnel. So anytime you have a salesunnel and it's a prospect, it's a prospect somewhere else as well. So I would expect that of the 42 that are in that bucket, they're in somebody else's
bucket as well. We haven't won yet. >> And what I what we could add to this chart is what's the average number of locations that they're looking at and then you would know if it's two then you 21 are realistic opportunities. But
>> but maybe I don't understand. I thought this was retrospective. >> This is >> So this isn't current. So we do know who. >> So this is from uh Q3 of FY25, >> but they're not sold yet. >> Yes, they're not. No, no, no. That's just the top qualified.
>> I'm sorry. I thought decision meant that seven had made a decision. Okay. >> No, no. Seven are in their decision phase. >> Yeah. >> So from the top of a salesunnel, this is a really good discussion. This the space I live in. from the top of the sales
funnel, the 25, very unrealistic. >> Right. >> Right. They're still deciding. They may not flow all the way through the funnel. They may fall out at some point. When you get down to the seven and they're we're still in play for seven that are in final decision-making stage, most likely to sell.
>> So they seven haven't decided for seminal. They're in the process of making a decision. >> Correct. >> Yes. But we're still in play or they wouldn't be in there if it's a real sales funnel. >> Got it. This is why this is not my business. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I could talk about this for the next
>> We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. No. Um I I do I do appreciate the information and I do love data although I don't understand sales cycles and I think it's really important so that we know that we're giving the cor the whatever our decisions may be as a board and the and
the policy decision that we give you moving forward at least we understand exactly what it is that our decision is going to do. what what is the result and the outcome that that influence is going to have on on our community moving forward because right now I clearly I don't think we fully understand what's
what the whole big picture is. >> So thank you. >> The most important one on that chart to me is the negotiation phase. >> Yeah, they're reversed. >> Yeah, >> that should be on the bottom. >> Yeah, that should be flipped around. Um,
so I think you may have touched on it >> and maybe you were trying to be kind. >> Yes. >> On the UCF incubator. So I'm just going to ask the question. Um, what what is happening in the void of the city of Winter Springs deciding to
defund the incubator uh for their prop share after years of advocating? They wanted it in Winter Spring. >> Yes. Yep. So, uh, we also have Raphael Kammano here, uh, for Oh, just left. No worries. So, we work very closely with
Raphael, Michael Weiss, uh, Michael Weiss is the site manager that's at the incubator in Winter Springs and also at Seminal State College. This would be the first months that they haven't received the grant funding from Winter Springs. So, they're currently looking at
offsetting the space that would pay for that grant funding with a partner over at the Winter Springs incubator. This does not impact the expansion into Seminal State College into Heathrow in any way. We're still filling those uh
offices with the international companies there. But in Winter Springs, we are currently looking at is that the best possible location to move forward? Uh, uh, University of Central Florida and Semino County Economic Development. We
believe there are other possible locations. Um, and they do understand that the grant funding received, it is not tied in any way city to the current lease that UCF incubate. That is a
private lease that they have with a land owner at at the incubator site. >> Right. >> But currently the discussion on where would be a better location to continue growth for UCF incubator that is the discussion on the table with the county
and UCF. >> Fantastic. I appreciate that. >> I had the occasion. >> Go ahead. I'm not done yet. But you go. >> Okay. No, I I wanted to specifically on that. No, >> it's fine. I had I had a discussion yesterday uh on we were talking about another matter on UCF and Mr. Kittinger,
you know, we talked specifically about this. Um, not only is Ghee right on accurate, but they are also, like I said, looking they if they're going to move, they want to move just one time. They're looking at some place that would be more beneficial throughout
Seol County since Winter Springs is in close proximity to UCF and u they no longer are giving money. Um, and uh they did, you know, quite frankly, they did try to go back to um um Winter Springs, right? And at the next meeting there was
a motion but and got a second but it lost for the second time. >> So um they're they're but they are not giving up on seminal county and they're extremely thankful to Gee and his staff but also to Semino County Commission and our continued support of this and told
me of a number of different projects that are extremely beneficial to Semino County that they're working on as we speak. >> That that's my understanding as well. So, thank you very much and also want to thank you and your team
>> for being at the Sanford Orlando International Airport on Saturday. >> Thank you. >> To welcome Arajet, the new airline in the Dominican Republic who are making three flights a week now into the Sanford Orlando International Airport. And our chairman of the board from the
airport, Mr. Kevin Bentley is here. Kenneth, thank you for being here, sir. Good to see you. Uh, good good work. You you really put together and I and I was told by the airlines representatives there that they have never ever been to an
area or an airport and have been greeted as well as they were and treated as kind as they've been in opening up their new routes here to to the Orlando area. So speaks volumes the airport to your folks and so forth. Good work. >> Good work. Mr. Would there be an opportunity, speaking of the airport in
the future, to have some type of a presentation or work session to give us an update on uh developments like airlines that are coming or update on the uh property development, that sort of thing. I feel like um I know you serve on that board for us, but it might
be good to just get a a here's a a state of the airport kind of. >> Yeah, we we can get something put together. I'm sure that we can work on that. There there are some things that are in the works and because the nature and the political nature of some of those things
are unknown at this point as far as air carriers. It's just not a matter of picking up the phone and say Delta come come set up shop here. >> Yeah, I know. But I I would love to understand that. Like I don't understand the nature of that because I've never served on that board and I don't know what that entails. And I was actually having um breakfast with some folks this
weekend and they said why ar why aren't there more airlines at the Stanford airport? And I was like, you know what, that's a really good question. I'm sure there's an answer. I, however, do not know it. >> So, um, I would just like to be better educated. >> Sure. Absolutely. Well, >> just to that point, I know it's great to
go to South America from from Sanford, but you can now go to New Jersey. There's been significant developments at the Sanford airport. That's critically important. >> Atlantic City. Bob's like, "Wait a minute. His eyebrows are Atlantic City." I try to use them as many times as I can
and the airport's a great asset for us and it's a great economic engine not just for Semino County but for the region >> and a lot of people don't realize the significance behind it. So I would agree with Commissioner Lockheart if there's an update that we could get I think it'd be great. >> You know we did an update uh
transportation wise at Metro Plan uh and it was very informative. >> Thank you. >> I'd love to learn more. >> Hey Mr. Bentley, you got your work cut out for you there. >> Can you make that happen? Good stuff. Thank you very much. Anything else for this group? Seeing none, thank you all very much. We
appreciate it. >> Happy birthday, G. >> Yes. Happy birthday. >> Enjoy the donuts. Next up is our uh work session involving the third generation 1 cent sales tax. >> And Mr. Chairman,
>> Mr. John Slaugh and Miss Tanya Lori from Jacobs. Welcome. And thank you uh Mr. Chairman as they get set up here. Um one of the discussions we have had the last year year and a half probably almost two
years uh since I have been here is to finalize our third gen uh sales tax program. And so we are happy to present you this this morning with that. And do want to welcome Tanya Lori here from Jacobs. Tonnie and I have worked together in many capacities in the past
and um probably one of the best people that I know that can help us with our sales tax program to and now and into the future. So with that, I'll turn it over to them. >> And you may have to speak right into those.
>> Can you hear me now? Wonderful. Well, good morning uh board of county commissioners and uh county manager, county attorney. Uh we're here to present the uh next edition of the conversation we started back in the
retreat in March um around the how will we finish the generation 3 sales tax. Um, so we have a lot of uh interesting activity going on, a lot of product productivity and we have a few challenges, but we have a plan and we'd
like to present it to you today. Uh, I am flanked as as uh Darren has just stated uh by uh Tony Olri from uh from Jacobs. uh you all have met her in many different capacities over the years and we're to echo uh Darren's point, we're excited that she's with us uh to help us
not only with the generation three closeout but also the generation 4 startup of the work plan um of the work program for the generation 4 sales tax. Um also um flanked by our um county storm water engineer and division
manager Owen Regan um who basically his teams maintain all the things that the project teams create. So they have to work in in a symbiotic nature because what we create we do have to maintain and I know this board knows that but you'll see that in this plan as well.
Um, we're also supported by uh Christian Swenson uh from the county manager's office as well as Tim J from the office of OM. All right, let's step right into the presentation. So, we'll walk through um a little bit
of background. Um I think the the commission, you all know the background very well over all the years of of experiencing the one penny sales tax and its projects. um more for the community. We'll walk through the uh remaining Gen 3 projects and then what are what are
our next steps and then we have an action requested at the end of the presentation. The presentation will review those projects that remain in the generation 3 work program as well. We'll look at the summary of the cash flows. So when will we spend the money? So you'll see here
um how we are intending to prioritize the spending remaining in the generation 3 sales tax uh as well as the projects that are associated with that remaining spending. So we start here with an overview of the
uh background of the generation 3 referendum. The referendum was intended to collect $366.2 million. We actually have spent to date uh $380 million, sorry, $380 million.4.
Um, so we've spent more than the original tax referendum had envisioned. So with that spending, where did that spending go over the last 10 years? It went to all of those things we talked about. We had two major initiatives. the
capital maintenance activities. So, the road resurfacing, the pipelining activities, sidewalk programs, all of those types of programs. We also then on the project side had all those initiatives that uh you and your constituents said were important as well
as what our engineers said needed to be maintained. So, we have those projects. As you can see, productivity has increased over the years as we spent the one penny sales tax on those initiatives that um you and your fellow Kim
commissioners have stated are the priority and um with the uh referendums uh conditions of what the money can be spent to in the last year just over $60 million of spent.
So now we step into an overview. So this is what remains. So what remains really is we have that $380 million that was um was already spent. We also um one of the very good news items within this uh
initiative was um and thank you to the county commissioner and staff over the last 10 years were really able to leverage these funds to go get other federal and state funding. So you can see 175 million on $380 million uh that
the team was able to generate in addition to the investment of our of our taxpayers and of our community. So as you all know all the dollars are associated to existing projects within the budget. So that last remaining is
$145.9 million that is in the carry forward that you have seen uh moving into this year's budget. So as we move over to what remains, what remains is there is $145 million in the
carry forward. We less out the budget request that we have in front of you today, the $22 million. We less out what it costs to maintain that infrastructure, the $19.7 million. What remains for the project side of the
generation 3 spending is $103.7 million. So at this point in overall numbers, $700 million in in actual collections toward the one penny infrastructure sales tax on $380 million of initial
collections. So as we move the story forward, we started with many hundreds of projects that the that the um county would like to have completed. We are now down to double digits. So we began uh last
fiscal year with 73 remaining projects. We uh were able to complete the staff has completed 13 projects. Remaining 60. Those 60 remaining projects of them as we stand here today, nine of that 60 are
already in a substantially complete state or being finalized uh as we speak in the next few months. So working from the bottom up on this chart, we have a 30 projects that have funding from the one penny sales tax,
we have 13 projects that are a composite, those leveraged funds which are funded by one penny and then also funded by grants. Then we have nine projects that were named in generation 4 as well as generation three and we're going to talk to you about those here in
a second. And then we have eight projects that we believe are very good candidates for leveraged funds. Those are the intent there is to get them shovel ready and go look for some additional funding to complete the construction. In this time we still want
to focus of course on the capital maintenance, maintaining all those the road resurfacing, the sidewalk programs, the traffic signals and and bridge repair. We want to rightsize and that's what we'll talk about here in a second when I turn it over to Tonyie to walk us
through the projects. Um, and we want to actually go after and um, this is something we're really excited with to to really look for the support of board and others um, to really look for more leveraged funds to complete this work program and then of course be prepared
for the fourth generation sales tax and take that same benefit and and apply it to those those tax dollars. >> Great. Thanks, John. Um before I begin, I just want to say thank you for the warm welcome and it's truly my honor to
serve this county um with moving your transportation program forward. Um so the next two slides are our opportunity slashchallenge slides. As John mentioned, as we started looking through your third gen uh program and looking at
the monies that have been allocated into different phases, we started breaking those into the buckets that John uh just mentioned in the last slide. And if if you notice the there were two um buckets that were not checkarked and and I'm going to spend a little bit of time
talking uh through both of those. This is our first slide which is our prepare shovel ready. These are the eight projects that John um mentioned earlier. Now, if you look at the dollar amounts that uh are remaining, you see six of
them are all under that $4 million mark. And as Commissioner Delari knows very well and and the fellow commissioners, those are really good candidates for Metropan Orlando and some of those federal dollars that come in. Those are your sidewalk projects or your intersection improvements. So, we're
going to continue your tradition of bringing uh the bacon home, so to speak, and uh really knock on those doors and get those dollars back into uh Semino County. Uh there are two projects on there, you'll notice that have higher dollar amounts. That's Orange Boulevard
as well as Slavia Road. So, what we're doing with those two projects, we're looking at that, especially Orange Boulevard. And this is where John talks about rightsiz in a project. Where are the needs? Can we do some intersection improvements at lower dollar amounts to help alleviate some of the congestions
or can we phase this project to bite, you know, break it into smaller bites at the apple so we can bring in additional federal dollars. We're also had even uh this last week uh talked with our grants departments what once the government reopens
what are opportunities for us those build grants or what name that they want to call it next. So, we're really going to concentrate on looking and bringing dollars back to help these construction. DOT loves shovel shovel ready projects
and that's what we're preparing these projects for. Next slide. Okay. The next bucket that was not check mark is what we call our fourthgen projects. So, these are projects that started in Gen 3, but they are also named in the referendum for Gen 4. Now, the good news
with these projects, you see a lot of asterisks. those already have leverage dollars on it. They already have grant funding on it. So that'll help us as we move forward. But what we're going to do um really as early as this next week is turn our attention to building out the
fourth gen work program. So we're going to take a 10-year and flow these projects. These are not the only projects that were named in the referendum. So we're going to start putting the puzzle together on what projects we can complete when. and we'd love to come back to you and present
that to you um in the spring of of of next year. Um so those are sort of our look ahead. Now, what are we doing right now um to finish out your Gen 3? Uh I think I got a call on our very first day here was
probably about a month ago and Darren said, "When are you going to be done with Gen 3?" So there was no pressure at all in starting this this job. Um, so, um, John mentioned it a little bit. Uh, we're going to continue our capital maintenance. As he mentioned, it's our
resurfacing. It's our sidewalks. It's our bread and butter, uh, to keep the traffic moving through this county. Um, I mentioned earlier, we're going to right-size projects. Let's look at these big dollar amount and what, um, programs or what improvements can we put in place
to help alleviate some of the congestion? And then of course looking um to actively pursue those grant function. I mean $175 million that's something to be proud of. You turned a $366 million program into $71 million.
I mean that is that is really incredible in transportation and you all should be commended for that. So um what we wanted to show you in the next couple slides is when we're going to be done with Gen 3. So, as we um
looked um at your program and the schedule for the projects, we um the next couple slides sort of shows you that $103.7 million that John mentioned earlier in the presentation and how are we going to flow through that through
the next couple years. So, this first slide sort of shows you the construction, design, rightway, and study phases of these projects that remaining. We look to be complete with Gen 3 in the next couple years and that's really great. That's a good feat
um two years after your fourth gen um referendum. So again, kudos. I'm coming in at a good moment, right? Um so um so that's how this data breaks down by project phase. And then the next
um slide shows those buckets, those five buckets that we uh John started the presentation with and how that is flowing through the the work program. So, we have a big work program this year. $72 million is a big work program. Uh, we've got a lot of projects in
construction now. We just had a meeting yesterday. Got a lot of projects that are finishing up with construction. Um, we've got a lot of studies that are finishing up. We've got a lot of design projects that are finishing up. So, we look forward to working with all of you
to um put uh third gen to rest and then uh start your fourth gen. And with that, I'll turn it back over to John. >> Thank you, Tony. So, as you can see, um, commissioners, the work is continuing. There's mighty work to complete and, uh,
we have a plan. So, that how do we complete the Gen 3 and put a bow on it is the intent of of this discussion. It's also taking that and then leveraging it in and understanding all of the learnings of this entire team as well as with the support of our consulting teams to be able to say how
do we take all the learnings from the last three generations and take it into the fourth generation and appropriately set up an appropriate uh work plan uh for fourthg gen. What that'll mean is a lot of coordination upfront. So, um, at
the direction of the county manager, Darren has, uh, asked us to be ready for a springtime generation 4 discussion with you and your fellow commissioners, uh, to be able to sit down and say, "Here's what the fourth generation plan looks like as well as keep going on the
Gen 3. So, what we're going to do is start tomorrow." So, maybe start this afternoon. Uh, we might have already started. Yeah, we might have already started. Uh, but to the point would be go out and talk to the cities. Um we've heard from this board the cities are very very important partner to the one
penny sales tax and therefore we need to coordinate with them. We need to understand what their needs are and we will need your help in those in those discussions. We'll also meet with our regional partners DOT we've talked about Tony brought up the key uh funding sources that the DOT can help with and
and and have done over the years. So we appreciate their partnership. Also, of course, the turnpike uh the expressway authority and of course metroplan Orlando as our regional uh MO and as uh commissioner uh Delari as chair today on
that board can assist us on these potential uh initiatives and and hopefully help us bring back more of that money. Um then of course as the federal government uh opens back up again being well positioned for those grants that are coming out of the
federal government uh and working with our teams and the lobbyists and and so on to really make sure that uh the needs of Semino County are understood understood at the federal level. And then finally thank you for your authorization last meeting regarding the
2050 MTP. that is the cherry on top basically to be able to sync up with the metrop plan uh planning cycle and grab those new projects or potential projects that will inform your thinking around
generation 4 and we'd layer those into the work program so that you can consider both the everything that was considered in the fourth gen referendum already as well as the new thinking that might come from that plan. Um, with that, I'd also like to pause for a
moment and just a big thank you. Um, this was a a herculean effort um starting back in in March to get us here. I want to really truly appreciate um the county manager's direction and vision as well as his staff support. Um,
this could not have happened without uh Mr. J and his team, Sarah, uh, doing some just yman's work very quickly. And then I think Tonyie, we said hello and she just got started. Um, so she just jumped right from the frying pan into the fire and and came with us. And then
of course Owen and his team um and and our our construction and and uh and design teams just diving in and making sure it happened. I do want to share one special story a little bit too. What do our teams do when we're not watching our construction team? Uh we were having our
status meeting yesterday. major project. Um the Oxford Road project as you all are very very aware of. Um the team these little small something extras, right? Uh they went out to our construction partners uh our contractors and said, "Hey, Halloween's coming up.
Let's make sure we have no construction debris on these sidewalks that we're working on so that the kids can have safe and fun Halloween." So, no one asked them to do it. This is just a special people we get to work with. And uh it was just a nice quiet moment. And
I'd like to just acknowledge uh Ted Holmes and his team on the construction side for just doing the simple things that make this a very special place to live. With that, I will we will pause. We're here to answer any questions and we have a requested action for the approval of a
>> very good. Thank you very much. Any inquiries, questions, comments? >> Mr. So, I want to I want to start by pointing out and Tim may not like this math because, you know, his math is always just a little bit different than
mine. It's probably writer than mine, but this is still good math. So, if you take us back to slide 887. So, the tax generated $380 million. If I reduce that by 25%, so
that's a low number, very conservative approach. 25% of that came from people outside of the county. Historically, we've said 30% of it comes from people outside of the county. You get to about 285 million of taxpayer investment by Seminal County taxpayers.
And if I do an ROI to Semino County taxpayers on that, it is a um 2.46 return on one every $1 that was put in. We get 2.46 back. That we need to not
lose sight of that because when we talk about we miss the the talk track about the leveraging of the dollars that we get. We talk about it very >> No, we didn't. Well, we talk about it loosely, but we're not talking about it specific to the ROI on this after the
fact of both calculations. And and it's it's remarkable. So, I just wanted to to point that out. I would like to have a general conversation with the backdrop of the conversation being
Orange Boulevard and the notion of phasing a project or rightsizing the project so that the components can get leverage dollars. How is that going to feel to citizens that are living through the construction on their main only
entrance and exit from their homes? >> Thank you commissioners. So the on Orange Boulevard just um setting a little bit of the groundwork. Uh this project extends Orange Boulevard from just under I4 all the way to 46 are the
terminus of the project. It includes uh separated trail as well as trail connectivity up into the Wakiva longterm and then most of it is drainage and safety across that whole corridor. So there's a lot of retention and a lot of
just basic blocking and tackling of good roads and storm water uh infrastructure being put in place on a road that has not been maintained um up to that level to this point. So that's the framing of the project. So, one of the things
that's made it a difficult project is that they've had to separate all of the water retention and um storm water assets across the whole corridor. Uh so, what we're asking our design folks to look at is how do we break this up in an
appropriate manner? Uh instead of looking at a $40 million project straight off the off the gate, can we break it into phases logically? So one of the logical separations is the Smith Lockhart Canal system. So to the east
one phase, to the west another phase that still leaves a very big phase to the commissioner's point on on the west side of of Orange Boulevard. So we're really asking our engineers to take a peek at this and say, "Wait a second. Is there another way to split this up?" Um,
and to use a public works or or uh construction term, we also have to consider the MOT, the management of traffic. So, how do we make sure that these these um citizens can get to and from their homes on the daily for all
the things they want to do during what will be a quite a long project. Um, so I think that's what Tony had just referenced. We've got to think more deeply about that and we've got to think a bit uh and thank you commissioner from the lens of how it impacts the the community.
>> And if I could add just one point and one of the questions that you asked and then going back out to the community talking to them because what makes sense to us may may not make sense to the community on really what boots on the ground. And so keeping the community involvement um having them with us every
step of the way of the of the project and ensuring that you know that they understand what how the project's moving forward as well. >> I appreciate that because I think when we talk about that and don't frame it with the idea that we are worried about
how they get to and fro um it's probably going to raise concerns. So so that's in the mix. I just want to make a a comment around Midway. I know the projects that we've already accounted for in Midway and I just want
to and I did this I do this in every single briefing that I'm in. >> The work that we did on Midway was the start to getting that infrastructure up to par. It was not final. So, it's in fourthgen as well and we need to make sure that we transition from one to the
other without a big gap in time. my my last comment, but I think the work that you've done is I'm not looking at you, I'm looking at the entire team. The work that's been done to push stuff through this funnel is amazing.
Um, and the fact that you start slow and then ramp up, but you still had the second gen that was tagging on top of that and that piece is lost in that one graphic, >> but but it is amazing. So, thank you, Chairman. >> Anyone else? Commissioner Delari.
>> Thank you, Mr. I would like to continue the conversation that uh Commissioner Her was just saying that it's not been easy uh and one of the reasons why it's not been easy because of the increased cost >> of not just materials uh but also
manpower. And there's another factor here that we don't really talk about a lot and that is that when large projects come into the region like I4 or the 417 or 4 whatever project it is it sucks up a lot
of bandwidth of capacity of construction workers which increases the cost as well as it sucks up the uh bandwidth of engineering firms so it doesn't go unnoticed
that you know it does take time and it is difficult to get these projects done even the small projects as people may think it's just a small sidewalk project it's only a couple hundred thousand even though that is real money but it does get inflated so you should all be
commended uh for all the work that you're doing uh two issues I'd like to discuss you mentioned John uh reaching out to the seven cities about are you talking about their projects or about our projects or both of them or how to
dovetail that but can you elaborate on that please? >> Yes commissioner and I I think uh one of them at your at your direction as well as your fellow commissioners. So uh an example would be the Slavia road uh project that is currently in the generation 3. Um at your bequest uh we
were going to fund that with one penny uh ostensibly by the county. We took that back went out to the city of Ovido um and got them to agree to a share to so they are coming to the table with a 30% share um
>> Slavia road is not in the city sorry 426 apologize long project sorry about that y so the ILA >> sorry about that >> been a long day yeah sorry about that um so yes so so the uh 426 extension so
basically this um this project they were able to now come into and um and help us in the design and they are also interested in looking at the potential construction as well. So that's a perfect example of a name project where
um the municipal will come in and help us out. The city will come in and help you >> talking about the city's projects and also working with us to elaborate on their dollars as well. >> Yeah. And if you remember, commissioner, we had u on the referendum, we had joint projects like a joint shared list. And so um and I have been working with all
the city managers during that process as well as well as Mr. Switzerland when we we we started this is that now we're ready to start meeting with the cities u as we start collecting looking at what are what joint projects uh that we both agree upon and how we move forward and
that's what we will be taking back to this board once we work with them. Can you also uh discuss uh with us? I know the transportation mass plan has not been finalized yet. It should be finalized the first quarter plus or minus next year. Uh I'm sure that's
going to be dovetailed in this as well. Can you explain that how that's going to work? >> Absolutely commissioner. So for everyone what we've at your direction what we did was we took the 2045 uh TMP the transportation master plan recast that
as the 2050 MTP um ostensibly to align to the regional planning efforts so to align to uh metrop plan Orlando's process. So uh we will conduct that project through this uh last quarter and then into first quarter of next year.
What that'll allow us to do is take all of that data and bounce it against what was in the generation uh the fourth generation referendum and be able to say here are additional projects for your consideration based on the new data and
the new learnings. So that's the intent there and then at Darren's direction we would bring that back to you and your fellow commissioners. >> So I guess you're going to be putting this data into the master plan to see how all that shakes out then. >> Absolutely. >> Okay, great. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you that anyone else
lockard >> um talking about collaborating with the cities is great. Also want to uh see um additional further collaboration between road storm water and water quality. I think um we have a great opportunity to
to focus on that this year. And so as we're looking at these projects, um any opportunity that we have to also improve water quality in the region, whether it's um a perceived retention pond that may eventually flow into the Lockhart
Smith Canal that then flows into Lake Monroe. Um we we really need to emphasize that as much as possible as oo and I know I've been asking for breakdowns. what are water which one which of these projects impact water quality and which of these are just you know we just paving and then I got the whole pipelining speech but um but I
really think that anytime we're we're talking about spending money we need to be able to at least say this this we either can or cannot improve water quality and if we can this is how we plan to do it. I would love to see that because I think that um would be great
and Owen's amazing and Kim's amazing and their teams are all amazing and they do work together very well, but I don't think we have been as intentional as a board in funding projects that give them the very firm nod that this is important to our board. We know it's important to our citizens. So, um so that's one
thing. The other thing I wanted to touch on is um on the back page uh of this item before you get to the actual B page 828 in my agenda book there's the list of projects that were not reimbursed by FEMA and I don't know that it's necess I
don't know if it's in your PowerPoint or not. >> Yeah. Um, but I think this further solidifies this board's conversation and discussion around making sure that we have adequate reserves and funds for
things that FEMA will not be re reimbursing. And I think Tim, you would you did some math for me on these and I I'm sorry I don't have it in front of me. Do you remember the total? >> I do. I'm Timothy Jex with the Office of Management and Budget. Uh after Hurricane Milton, there were six
roadways that were damaged and required uh drainage mitigation. Um these are projects that would have initially been uh reimbursed primarily by FEMA. Um the total was about $4 million. Um and we've learned that we're not going to be getting that reimbursement, so we had to switch that to county funds.
>> So, not great news, but great that we've been thinking about it and planning ahead because we know we're going to see more of this. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Appreciate that. Right. Great work. I'm I'm excited about moving forward and thank you again Tonnie for coming on board.
>> Commissioner, >> um go ahead. >> Thank you very much. Just to say the key to this and it's been it's been stated in many different ways by the my fellow commissioners is the results and that the citizens see those
results. Um, I think one of the things that we did that we just blew over and don't think much about is the is the signs one penny sales tax at work. I've seen that so many people have said something to me, you know, that's a great idea. I mean, from other counties,
they that's a great idea. We should be doing that, too. But uh I just wanted to reiterate also what Commissioner Lockheart just said about and and not just because of water but you know making sure that whenever we do something we're looking at other
positive results we can do with it. Not just going ahead and paving the road but okay what other problems do we have in this area? Let's see if we can take care of them with this project or through this project. So I think that's very
very important and I I agreed with the other commissioners u commissioner and commissioner Zimbau when they said things about leveraging it's amazing that um you know we we did talk about it but not as much as we talked about hey 30% is coming from other people
>> you know the leveraging of hey and we've got this and now we can draw down monies from other areas is is extremely important and gives us even more bang for the buck. That's it. Thank you. Uh if you could go
to slide number five. Before we get into that, um I just want to say I think what I'm hearing here is something that that I've always wondered about when we talk about water quality so on so forth is a simple ranking of each project whether it has positive,
negative or neutral impact environmentally is something I would love to see. >> It could be used as a ranking perhaps by this board as to what benefits you know overall should be moving forward. >> Yes, sir.
So, I would say everybody's been thankful to staff. So, I'm not going to reiterate that, but I will tell you if you look at this graph, I'm thrilled to death. >> I'm thrilled that we have kicked this finally into high gear to get delivery out,
especially during a pandemic following up with after the pandemic when we had, you know, supply chain issues, uh, labor issues. This is great. I was banging on the table before I was
ever elected here that they couldn't spend the money quick enough to get the job done. This tells the story. So, fantastic work. Fantastic. U that we're actually getting there. There's always going to be speed bumps and hurdles and hiccups
on any project. Um and we have to deal with those as they come. But this this portrays really a a movement in the right direction to get these projects done on behalf of our citizens who've been waiting to have them done and also
being able to see those leverage dollars play out. So thank you. >> Thank you chairman. >> That's all I have and I'll move for someone to move >> requested action. Mr. >> Yes, sir. I move to approve the chairman to execute a resolution implementing the
budget amendment requests 205-053 in the amount of 22,51,777 to realign budgets for existing infrastructure projects. >> Second >> motion second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? I oppose like sign.
Seeing none carries unanimous. Thank you all very much. >> Thank you. Next item is going to be item 31, fourth generation sales tax project priorities. It's going to be assistant county manager Christian Swinsson and Mr. Tim
J, manage it management and budget off budget director, sorry. and chairman and commissioners as they're setting up up here just to to start off again is that now that we're ending the third gen as you saw the last presentation over the last uh for the
next couple years and the fourth gen transportation sales tax projects will be coming to you in the spring as we'll go through that work session. There are a few projects that are not non-transportation related that I wanted to make sure we talked about it at our retreat p in this past March, but I
wanted to bring it to the board uh so we can start moving on a few of these projects. So that's the purpose of the next presentation. >> Good morning chairman and commissioners. Christian Swinson, assistant county manager. I'm here with Tim J, the budget director. And as Darren mentioned, we're
here to talk about fourthgen sales tax nontransportation related projects that are initially contemplated. So >> you may pull that mic. You may far too those you have to >> Can you hear me better? All right. I apologize for that. >> We can't afford new ones.
>> Oh, no worries. The >> budget cuts. Sorry. >> Budget cuts. Um, so with this, we're going to do the standard agenda that we do in our presentations. We'll talk about the purpose, the background. I'll turn it over to Tim for the background. He'll give you kind of a history of that. he'll turn it back to me to talk about potential projects and then we'll
talk about next steps and questions and so forth. So, as as Darren mentioned, this is to talk about the non-transportated transportation related 4ch sales tax projects and establish initial priorities. So, what we're looking with this just from a a more administrative uh understanding what
we're doing. We we really just want to create projects accounts and get started on these things. not necessarily apply the budget yet, but establish them as as legitimate projects in the budget and begin the the administrative process. >> A high level conversation at this point, correct? >> That that is 100% correct. Yes, sir. So, with that, I'm going to turn it over to
Tim and he's going to give you a background of the sales tax and as mentioned, he'll pass it back to me. >> Thank you, Christian. The fourth gen sales tax referendum passed in November of 2024 with 73% voter approval. It's a 10-year tax uh and revenues are restricted to be used on public
infrastructure improvements. The first three generations f focused on transportation infrastructure like roadway preservation, flood prevention and drainage, trails, traffic improvements, sidewalks, water quality and bridges. And the fourth gen referendum was expanded to include parks
and other public infrastructure. When we started the process of developing the fourth gen sales tax, we worked with our public works department, parks department, and facilities department to identify needed improvements. We looked at historical actual expenditures and future needs and
the fourth gen referendum was built based on the approximate funding shares shown here. We anticipate to collect $650 million over the next 10 years with 400 million going to transportation and storm water and $ 250 million going to
parks and other infrastructure. Revenue collections began in January of 2025 and for nine months in fiscal 25 we collected $40 million. In fiscal 26, the current year, we're projecting to collect another 50 million for a total of $90 million currently available to
allocate towards projects. Sales tax revenues can be pledged towards debt service, but the term of the debt cannot be longer than the term of the revenue. So, a simple example where we took the $250 million totally available for parks and infrastructure,
uh, that would be a $25 million annual debt service, which would generate $210 million in immediate proceeds and would cost about $40 million in interest at 3% with a 10-year term. Now, I'm going to turn it back over to Christian to talk about individual projects.
>> All right. Thank you, Tim. All right. So, you know, based upon a a series of uh meetings of board meetings and retreats over the last year, we've identified some projects that we think are at the forefront of uh of this effort. So, I'm going to go through I'm going to just run through these and then I'll spend a little bit talking about
each one. So, we're going to talk about animal services building, county administration building, medical examiner building, the Roland Hills Park project, Rosenwald uh property, and then the WB equestrian center building that's on it. Um, so the first one I want to
chat about is the animal services building. Uh, Alan Harris was here and kind of briefed you on the the state of uh, animal services during the budget process and highlighted a number of these things. But what we're looking for is a expansion of the current animal services shelter to include additional
kennel space. There's, you know, there's been some conversation about capacity and things like that that would hopefully relieve that as well as um an HVAC system to bring the temperature of the existing as well as the new kennels down to meet regulatory levels as well as some associated building um upgrades.
You know, with the uh with the creation of this project, we would start a an RFP development process for both the architect and CM, which is fairly standard on our on our projects. The next project to be discussed is the county administration building. This would be a a multi-story administration
building and parking garage. It would house the BCC staff, BCC chambers, property appraiser, and a tax collector. It's a replacement of this building with some other accuchments in it for other staff members to bring in. Um, on today's agenda, you obviously saw this with with the recommendation for both
the architect and the uh the CM. So, the next slide is the medical examiner facility. That's another one we've talked about. As y'all are aware, we are currently in a partnership with District 5. Um that is a an agreement
that finishes in 2029. We're looking to do our own medical examiner facility. It is questionable right now whether that's a facility that will include Lake County. They've expressed some desire to do that or a facility that will do our do, you know, go it alone. So this project would would
contemplate the programming of both of those uh style facilities, but more importantly would include a full medical examiner uh suite, offices, autopsy, forensic space, laboratories, things like that. The RFP for the architecture has closed. We actually just did a short
listing yesterday and we're scheduling those presentations to go further in the process. The construction manager RFP will um will close on the 29th of October and construction is planned to be complete for the third quarter of 2029 which would mirror the agreement we
have with District 5. The next project to discuss is the Rolling Hill Park. Everyone's familiar with that. That's the former golf course that's being converted into a regional park. That will include obviously park amenities um as well as a road improvements and and trail improvements. The uh guaranteed
maximum price with a construction manager is currently being negotiated with staff. We're um hopeful to be bringing that back to the November 18th uh board agenda for for approval and moving that forward. The next project, another one that was on the consent agenda this morning, or
at least a portion of it, was the Rosenwald project. This is we've contemplated this as a three-phase project to kind of catch up the construction. and it's been around for a little bit of time. So, we're breaking it into more manageable chunks to be able to uh to get it built faster and catch up with that. So, the first phase
was the one that was for the GMP on the agenda today is a pavilion and hardcape the trails that kind of go, you know, connect that. Phase 1B is site amenities to do with the lake, which is fish and pure and a kayak launch. And then the third or what we're calling phase two is
the community center building construction itself. So, as mentioned, the phase 1 GMP was on the agenda this morning. Phase 1 be its is currently in design. We're anticipating construction to be estimated for the second quarter of 26 and the phase 2 community center
for the third quarter of 26. The next pro the next project we're contemplating is the WD WB equestrian center project. As you know, this was purchased last year and kind of a land bank project to to to do something with that facility. Up there on there, there
is a building. It is a horse barn, which sounds a bit odd as we're talking about horse barns, but it's not a horse barn like you would traditionally think of a horse barn. It is a blocked building. It is extremely extremely wellb built. It is open to the elements. The current property owner has to vacate the park by
April. That's what the uh the sales agreement was. We would like to go in there and uh and move some staff in there, button up the building and have a staff presence. Sometimes when you leave buildings by themselves and there's not a staff presence on there, a decay process starts. There's not people that
can f, you know, there's not people that see the problem and then it further exacerbates itself. So, we would just like to kind of establish a presence in there and then get that so we don't run the risk of that. So, um right now we're just working with an on call architect just contemplating a scope and trying to
develop a proposal for that. So the next steps is if everyone's agreeable to these projects, we would bring budget amendments back for the individual projects as they're needed at the appropriate time. So So with that, I'd just like to turn it back to the board for questions.
>> Okay. Start with Commissioner Herur. >> So we have 250 million available spread out over the duration of the fourth gen. What's the total of all of those round numbers? Give me a second to work my pen and can
I come back to you and I'll just roughly just roughly give that >> I'll tell you why I'm asking. >> Again, one thing I want to, you know, I'm going to work a pen here, but it's not it's going to be very rough. Obviously, the programming and what the board's desired for some of these things would come in there and that would have an impact. So, >> Oh, yeah. We're we're I'm going to
double whatever you say because then it comes back. >> Oh, don't do that, please. All right. Give me just give me just a second if you want. I can I can do two things at once. Maybe not. Well, but I'll I'll I'll come back as you ask other questions. >> Well, I'll I'll I'll tell you why I'm asking. You don't The notion that we're already talking
about debt is unsettling to me. Just going to go on the record. Some of this stuff is not have to have and there's a 10-year duration. And so if we could potentially cash flow this out over time without taking on $40
million worth of interest for debt service, that would be fabulous. But I have no earthly idea what the wish list cost. I I know animal services 20 million of the 250 million probably needs to be phased early on. I have an idea on Rolling
Hills. I think we have an idea on Rosenwald that probably has to be put in early. We've been working on that those two for a while. Um, >> and if the the reason I I had them throw in the debt service is just as as an
option as we start I'm sure we'll have another retreat in the spring and that we'll start talking about projects and that was asked by uh a few about if we wanted to fasttrack some of these projects what it would the debt look like and so that was just a scenario
that we had put on there. So, um, that is not, you know, we haven't made any decisions as you all you all would make that decision, but just we wanted to, uh, since it was question was asked, we wanted to make sure we covered it. >> Yep. I thought I'd get it out on the record that I'm a little freaked out by it. >> I was done. >> I'm sorry.
>> Sorry. Go ahead. I wanted to chime in on the debt conversation. >> Anything else on that? >> If you got if you got math number, >> I have Yeah, I have the mathematics done. So, I I just ran through there. And again, this can go higher or lower. I mean this is all we're doing is establishing project code. So this is order of magnitudes the programming can
go out. This is I don't want anyone. So 210 214 as Tim indicated you know there's 50 million. Now the thing to keep in mind about these projects is the projects that we talked about are going out to 2029. So commissioner her you
know there's not a shortage of cash flow to do any of the this work that we need to do right now. This is all preliminary work. Yep. >> This is this is stuff that when you put it out on a scale, it slides. It's not all that money now. And these projects,
like I said, easily will go three, four, five years to get there. And that's why, you know, when you look at 50 million a year, it's it's a it's a notion, but it seems like these are doable within that time and possibly by the cash flow. But again, this is Christian in about two
seconds given a real rough order of magnitude, not based on any programming or design or things like that. >> Uh, Mr. Jax is really unnerved by us doing math like this, but I can tell. Um, and by the way, a shout out because you got asked a question that probably
it was a really good question, but you were able to stand up and give a number. That's amazing. That that's how in tune we are, you are with this our our budgets. It's amazing. Um I just wanted to point so I would have come up with I I thought it was in range which is why I asked for you to do it and I think
that's how we should be thinking. So I appreciate that. Thank you chairman. >> Sure. So so for me I think it's a bit premature to have this discussion. I think this is a high level discussion. I'm looking forward to more detail in each project
>> that this board will ultimately approve or not approve and the cost thereof. Uh I understand this is broad and so forth. So I'm I'm not ready to have the discussion at this point until we get deeper into understanding what board direction is going to be ultimately
given for each project as well as the cost and delivery methods. So this is a good appetizer uh if you will for where we'll ultimately end up. We have to start that conversation somewhere, but that's that's where I land for that. So
anyone else? Well, >> you can go go to Lee. I'll come back. >> Mr. Constantine, then Lockar, then Delari. >> Sure. >> But it's good to know that you're thinking ahead about it. That's I I I concur. This is something that I'm looking forward to getting in depth um
as to exactly specifics on what we're going to do with each one. But it is nice that we're listing them and we're putting them in this proper situation that we can or cannot, you know, pay for them. >> Commissioner Lockhart. Um, I agree this
is meant to be a high level. We're establishing project lines and and the the devil's always in the details. Um, for sure, but I do think you're looking for some sort of reflection back from this board that you're on the right track and what you're saying you're doing is something that we are
collectively giving you the head nod to move forward with even though we're not going to get into the weeds with you. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Correct. >> Or say yes or no. Well, I think we're giving that we are we are by consensus saying that we concur with establishing these project
lines, right? So, we don't know exactly the number that's going to be in them. We have some round numbers, but we're >> because we've already committed to right >> these >> in one way, shape, or form. Okay. Um, as far as the debt goes, I I think what I took away from the slide um referring to
debt was that in in this situation, in these circumstances, debt doesn't make sense. um the math doesn't doesn't work to do that. There there are some projects and some times when debt does make sense and I think that slide tells us that this this isn't one of those
times right now to contemplate that. And so that's that's good because that kind of confirms some other conversations that we've had on this on this board. But um great to be looking ahead looking forward to more details down the road. Um it's it's great that we have this
opportunity that our citizens have trusted us with these additional funds so that we can do some of these really important projects for the community. So excited good times. >> Commissioner Delori. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I concur with everything that you all been saying.
Just want to not go into the details and repeating it, but uh to the extent that borrowing money to move these projects forward, I would not be interested in that. We haven't done that in the past. I don't see that to be a starter to be
honest with you. And this is just the beginning of the conversation and I have no problem with making these project line items to have these discussions. We're going to need to get more information about what these projects really look like, what the operation maintenance are and forward and there's a lot more conversations. So, good work
looking forward and uh look forward to having more conversations. Thank you. >> Great. Anyone else? Final. Do you believe you have direction, sir? >> Yes, sir. Thank you. >> Very good. Anything else you all have to add? >> No. Thank you. Appreciate the time.
>> Thank you all very much. All right, that wraps up our morning session. Uh, anybody else have anything good for the order before we uh go into recess? >> Happy birthday, Geek. >> Yeah, we shall be in recess till 1:30.
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[Music] Welcome back to the afternoon session here at the Semino County Board of County Commission. October 28th, 2025 is today's date. We
are going to immediately go into our quarterly service recognition awards. Miss Christina Brandolini. >> Good afternoon. >> Good afternoon, chairman and commissioners. This afternoon, we have the pleasure of recognizing several employees for their service to Seminal
County. Allison Thaw with Community Services will lead us off with recognizing Carrie Longworth, community assistance division manager with 20 years of service. >> Good afternoon, commissioners. Um, it is my pleasure today to introduce you
because you already know her, to Carrie Longsworth. So, Carrie is a native Flidian who grew up in Ovido and graduated from Ovido High School and from UCF. >> Yay. >> I know. >> Go Nights. I was going to say that, but then I thought there
>> um Carrie started with Seminal County in the community services department >> on August 15th, >> 2005 as a part-time customer service representative while attending college. She worked her way up through the community assistance division and became
the division manager in 2017. During the pandemic, Carrie led the division through the CARES, the RAP, the ARPA, and the funding blitz, pushing over $40 million out the door to residents in need to remain in their homes while also managing the nonprofit
and homeless diversion funding. Carrie oversees programs providing financial support to the community's most vulnerable residents, whether through rental subsidy, housing the homeless, and working with our nonprofit providers to deliver muchneeded services in our
community. I am proud to have Carrie on the community services team. Thank you for your 20 years of service to Seminal County. >> Yay. And I would add that Carrie is an invaluable asset to the AHACK.
>> Alan Harris, emergency management director, has several employees this afternoon that he will be recognizing. First, we have Michael Freyer, animal services investigator with 20 years of service. Uh so for the record, Alan Harris, director of emergency management, uh and
investigator Michael uh does our investigations for our aggressive dogs, uh bite investigations, dangerous dogs, uh does a lot of uh work on animal cruelty and uh prevention of hoarding cases. Many of you actually have done uh
some ride alongs and I know you've ridden along with him and you've seen what he does out in the field and it's quite something. Uh, I really appreciate Michael uh his uh strength in uh looking into cases that are brought up to us and
uh investigating those and preventing future animal cruelty. Um one thing also that uh Michael doesn't know I was going to mention today is he's got a new title um and that is leader of our Geneva emu response team. >> Oh boy.
>> So Michael's been doing that. He is actually the every once in a while when the emu gets loose, Michael is the one that goes out and works with the family to get the emu. So, congratulations on your 20 years. >> Uh for 25 years, I I really don't I
don't think I think uh that we really need to everybody knows who this person is. So, uh Tommy Oliveris is uh very well known throughout the entire state of Florida. He serves on multiple uh communications uh subcommittees for the state homeland security group. Uh the
urban area security initiative initiative for central Florida. Uh when the Stoneman Douglas tragic event happened uh down in South Florida, uh the state legislation put out that we needed to have interoperable networks uh that communicated that police and law
enforcement in each city and county could speak to each other. And uh when Tommy and I uh met uh right after that to make sure that all the checks were you know all the boxes were checked what we already knew that we had already connected that here in Semino County we
had an interoperable network for decades uh before that and that's due to Tommy's uh proactive thinking. uh all of our network from the school bus to the police car to the government vehicle to seminal state college all of those are
on interoperable network we can all communicate throughout the entire and that's because his of his uh proactive thinking and it's been an honor uh working with him we started almost about the same time our public service here in Simino County is it's an honor to have you as my partner and work work uh
co-orker so thank you So for 30 years it's the voice of animal services. I don't know uh mar if you call animal services Monday through Friday this is the lady 90% of the time is going to pick up the call. uh over
1,400 field calls uh per month on average and she picks up the calls, dispatches the folks uh if anyone's in trouble out in the field. And it is a a dangerous situation sometimes. It's an individual
alone, an animal control officer out in the field in in front of someone that may not be too happy that a dog just bit them or a dog got loose or whatever. and Marlene is on the other side uh protecting those animal control officers when they need help and also being the
comforting voice for people that are uh calling us when whenever there is an issue. So, Marlene, thank you for your 30 years of service. Uh we wouldn't be able to do this without you. So, thank you. Chief Matt Kinley will be recognizing uh several fire department employees as
well as a recent retiree. And we will start with Laura Simpson, emergency communications dispatcher with 20 years of service. >> Good afternoon. For the record, Matt Matt Kinley, fire chief, Smol County. Uh 20 years of service. Uh Laura Simpson
began her public safety career in 2000 after relocating to Pennsylvania where she completed firefighter training and proudly served for three years. In 2005, she returned to Florida and transitioned into emergency communications as an emergency communications dispatcher. Over the years, she advanced through the
ranks and has served as communications training officer for over a decade, training many if not all of our current personnel. uh with more than 20 years years of experience in the fire service and emergency dispatch, she has remained deeply committed to public safety and professional growth. Thank you, Lisa.
Next, we have Lieutenant Jasine Zombo. Jazz began her career uh in 2005 with the Soma County Fire Department after coming from Winter Springs. Uh, Lieutenant Zombo is a Geneva native who graduated from Semino High School and Semino High School's health academy program. Soon after graduation, she
enrolled in Semol State Colleg's firefighter minimum standards program to pursue a career in firefighting. In her 20-year tenure as a firefighter, she's become a paramedic, promoted to lieutenant, and attained a bachelor's degree in public administr public safety administration along with many accolades
to include the 2018 state of Florida paramedic of the year. She she also worked with legislators in Tallahassee to pass a cancer legislation that provides benefits for firefighters in the state of Florida diagnosed with cancer. Lieutenant Zombo currently serves as command safety technician on
Bshift and resides in Ovito in the Ovito area with her son and daughter. And I know that she has pulled two people out of a burning building. [Applause] 25 years of service.
So, I'm going to keep this short because this individual hates recognition, but I will say that we could not do our job without him. Gerald Hutchinson Hutch began his career with Semino County working for environmental services water and sewer in September of 2000 as their
warehouse supervisor. In November of 2007, he transferred to the fire department, also in the role of warehouse supervisor. In this role, he has seen many changes in his tenure with the fire department. Hutch is married, resides in unincorporated Almont Springs. And I would just like to point out that when you're talking about
logistics to keep our operation moving from paper towels to bunker gear, Hutch has touched every piece of it. We could not do our job without people like him. Thank you, Hutch. [Applause]
38 years of service. Wow. [Applause] She has seen everything. She knows where all the skeletons are. Lisa Emanuel, retired emergency communication dispatcher, began her career with Semino County in August of 1987, where she
worked in the emergency communication center for more than three and a half decades. Throughout the years, she has been a steadfast, the steadfast heart and soul behind the scenes, whether dispatching critical calls, supervising shifts, training the next generation of operators. Her leadership and commitment
have set the gold standard for what it means to serve. Lisa's impact on Semino County and the Fire Department Communications Center will be felt for generations. As she embarks on her new chapter, we honor her extraordinary journey and say thank you.
If I can just for a moment, thank you. Um, I just like to point out when it comes to public safety, we talk about firefighters, we talk about police, everybody who's getting a recognition here has some level of impact on public safety. Whether that be through animal services, dispatch, helping the
firefighters get their equipment and gear, and keeping their trucks on the road, it's all public safety. So, I'd just like to point that out and thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. And that concludes our presentation. Um if we can have some pictures ondeed
come down and get some photos. [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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All right. Now, we're going to move into our public hearing portion of our agenda. And I will look for proof of publication. Please move. >> Second. >> Motion. Second. All those in favor? I opposed. Like sign. Hearing none. Carries unanimously. Uh, exparte disclosure. We'll start with
Commissioner her and work our way across. >> None to disclose. >> None to disclose. None to disclose. >> None to disclose. >> How about that? Is unanimous. Okay. First item will be the approve the adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 95. Miss Trisha Johnson, the
deputy county manager. Thank you for all the work you've done on this. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman, commissioners. I'm here this afternoon actually to present three public hearings related to code amendments. Joining me today to address any of your questions, Mike Rhodess, Jennifer Nicks, and John Martin
behind me. To briefly recap and possibly for the last time at least for several months, this process began nearly 20 months ago. Since then, we have accomplished several key milestones, namely adoption of the international property maintenance code, amendments to
chapter 53, establishment of our code enforcement team, and now today, code amendments before you. Ongoing efforts include implementation of our interim IT program, development of the public portal, and additional amendments to chapter 40, which will probably come
back to you in the spring. Today, we begin with chapter 95, health property maintenance and sanitation. Recommended changes to chapter 95 include deletion of obsolete and duplicative language, new definitions for rubbish and vehicle coverings,
revisions related to overgrown yards and abatement procedures, streamlining nuisance abatement by authorizing the code enforcement division manager to make determinations on nuisance violations and initiate abatements more efficiently, and delegation of authority to the special magistrate to consider
and decide challenge nuisance determinations or abatements. staff's recommendation approval and adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 95 to the seminal county code. >> Thank you very much. Any questions for Miss Johnson?
>> Seeing none, I will go to board action. >> Move to approve. >> Second. >> Public comment. >> Do we have public comment on this item? >> No, sir. >> Hey, we've done it. >> I was looking. Uh, so we'll close public
comment. Good call. >> We got a motion and a second. All those in favor? I oppose. Like sign carries unanimously. >> Next item, Miss Johnson is yours as well. >> Yes, sir. Uh public hearing number two,
chapter 120, junk and junk dealers. Recommended changes to chapter 120 include updating the chapter name from junk dealers to simply junk. clarifying the county's authority to address and remove abandoned or junk vehicles on both private and public property. Adding
a clear definition to vehicle cover, updates to contract procedures for vehicle removal, lot clearing, etc. Staff's recommendation, approval and adoption of the ordinance amending chapter 120 of the Seminal County Code. >> Any questions for staff?
>> Seeing none, is there any public input on this item? >> No, sir. >> Seeing none, we'll close public input and go to board action. >> So moved. >> Second. Okay. Motion second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? I >> opposed like sign carries unanimously.
Okay, Miss Johnson, you're three for three. It's yours again. >> All right. Public hearing number three, chapter 168, nuisances. Recommended changes to chapter 168 include conforming amendments to align with prior updates to chapters 53 and 95. Further streamlining of nuisance
abatement, violation, correction, and hearing procedures. Delegation of authority to the special magistrate to consider and decide nuisance determinations or abatement abatements. Authorization for the code enforcement division manager to proceed with abatements upon expiration of an order
for an unsuccessful appeal. And the chapter provides for abatement of imminently hazardous items. Staff's recommendation approval and adoption of the ordinance amended chapter 168 of the seminal county code. Any questions for staff? N I
>> just one. Yes, sir. So, we have Commissioner >> Con. Where's the stuff where it never comes back to us? >> When you're done with that, that should be it. Yes, sir. It's all of the chapters we've been bringing for you. Cover that. >> Thank you. >> Anybody from the public to speak on this matter? >> No, sir.
>> Seeing none, we'll close public comment. Go to board action. >> Move to approve. Second. >> Motion second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor? I >> oppos like sign carries unanimous. Thank you very much for all your hard work and also the county attorney's office and
all the folks now in our new division of code enforcement. >> Well, I'd like to thank this board, the county manager, and the county attorney for your guidance, insight, and patience with us throughout this process. It has been quite the adventure. Lots of
discussion, collaboration, and just downright hard work to get where we are today. We have an incredible team in place and we're all very excited to see where we can take code enforcement for our citizens. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you, >> Commissioner. >> I'd just like to point out that this is
the gestational period of an elephant. >> The time it took us to do this, I looked it up >> and so congratulations on the birth of our baby elephant. Yeah, I was I was actually going to say to that point when you mentioned how long you've been working on, I'm like
I'm pretty sure we covered the junk vehicle back in 2019 2020 that was revised. Uh 2020, correct? Yes, sir. >> So, here we are five years later. >> Good work.
>> And I think we uh hired our last code enforcement officer. So, we're fully staffed, right? We have our team of five code enforcement officers, our division manager, our field supervisor, and they're all set up on the second floor. So, you should pop in and take a look. It looks terrific. Fantastic. >> Fantastic. Good work. Thank you all very
much. Appreciate it. >> All right. We'll go to the county attorney's report. >> I have no report today, chairman. >> All right. Thank you. County manager's report. >> You're not so lucky with me. I just have a few things.
Um, one, uh, uh, couple great news items here. Uh, first, our emergency management division manager, Steven Learner, has been selected as the Central Florida Disaster Medical Coalition Leader of the Year. He just got that. Um, this coalition spans from
Martin County down south all the way to Valuchia. Includes health care providers, hospitals, emergency services, and public safety agencies across the region. Steven's leadership reflects Seminal Countyy's strong commitment to preparedness and regional coordination. So, we want to thank uh
congratulate Stephen. Uh great great recognition and great job as he always does. Um you saw our veteran services manager Joey uh Coat here this morning. He's been with us now six weeks or probably about two months now. He's doing amazing. Right.
>> You all will uh he's probably has already met with you. We're going to relaunch our uh veteran of the month program. Uh getting ready uh to to start that again soon. So you'll be getting more information on that. Um as you all know, Oliver Bond, our solid waste uh
division manager went what they call it, cross the pond. He went back home. Um we were very very fortunate and we have a replacement already. His name is Joe England. Um he started yesterday. Uh comes from the city of Orlando, has a PhD in environmental science. Uh great
individual. Uh he was here this morning. I was hoping I don't think he's here now. Nope. Uh I'll get him to come by your offices. I said you're very crucial uh all year long, but particularly during our hurricane season. So uh he's
uh and he's from this region, so he under understands that. Um and we finished our first full week with Scout. 6,300 rides as of this morning. a little over 6,300. We all knew there were going to be a few hiccups and challenges.
We're working through all that. Mr. Swinson uh is working works with the team uh on on this on a daily basis. You all should have gotten your dashboards already. So, those are great information. Um what we're planning to do is go through a first the first quarter and bring come back in January
to do a a full update to the board. But as you notice, we're going to be watching it every day, making tweaks uh on it continuously. So if you hear something or if you want something more, just send it our way and we'll we'll get it happen. Make it happen. Great. Thank you.
>> Great work. on the scout item. Um, and I know we have been very proactive in in rolling this out uh to our community both in person and many of us have been interviewed by the news media as well as
social media that we've put out there. I've spoke to three civic groups this past week that had no clue, no idea, which was sort of lost on me from the standpoint of do you watch the news? Do you follow anything at the county? And I guess a lot don't,
>> right? >> For whatever reason. So, I I don't know if it makes sense to I know we've got these brochures um that we drop those at faith-based groups and ask them to pass them out or or whatever it is. Um just just food for
thought. Okay. Um and I think that that may be helpful. Just >> sure >> if you can let us know your thoughts or PI who can >> No, I think as much as and that's what we as much as information that you we we send out as much as we possibly can. Um, however, we don't we know we don't cover
everyone. So, if there's groups or >> um we had a a person come up recently and said they put out this magazine to a few HOAs and they would like to place it in there too. So, we give them uh gave them the brochure as well. So, anything you know, please pass it our way. And our team with Mr. Patton and his
communication team is out there speaking to it as well. One thing that um Mr. Swinson had told me this morning um and actually Commissioner Lockheart and I just talked about this recently is some folks are saying some of the links bus riders are not using it yet because the
buses are still running. You know, we're we're we're running dual uh transportation systems now. That will end in January. However, we have our interns um going to bus stops on the buses, riding the buses, explaining it. Some of those members will uh those
riders probably will use that until they can't and then they'll they'll they'll transition. So, we're out there on the streets every day um notifying folks. So, any other groups that you think would be helpful, we'd be more uh and happy then go go talk with them or send them information. Yeah, I spoke to a
group in Tuscilla last night and several of them said, "Yeah, we've seen the vehicles, but we weren't sure what they were." >> Yeah. Well, that's what Yeah. So, anyway, Mr. Chairman, >> good. Yes, Commissioner Lockard. >> On that same um point, I think if if we can creatively find ways to
encourage those links, fixed route riders who are going to have to transition to start trying it now. And I don't know what that incentive may be. Maybe it's your first ride is free if you're a current Lynx bus rider,
something even though we've missed our free phase. Um I think that you know people just out of >> just pure habit and human nature is to wait until the last possible moment to do the science project to do right to write the report. And so they're going
to wait until January 10th and then they're going to try to get on and then we may be in a bit of a bind with a rush of people trying to figure out how to use it all at the same time. So leave it completely up to staff how they want to, you know, brainstorm, encouraging those
people to start trying it now. Um I think that would be really important. >> Good idea. >> Yep. Good stuff. Okay. Anything else on that item? >> No, sir. Commissioner her. >> Uh, in terms of getting information out, I would say there's a couple of major
constituencies that probably are riders and that is the transportation and food services department at the school district. I can help facilitate any if you give me the material, it's probably a thousand to distribute by the time I
get to both of those populations. Um, I can get it into the right departments and make sure that it's handed out. I think they would appreciate that. I do think they're riders um and most often one car households. So, this this may be gamechanging in terms of employment opportunities.
>> Good. We'll do it. >> And maybe our tax collector could in insert one of our things with their mailers. >> Oh, >> I mean, they may allow for renewal of tags, you know, literally probably every day or at least once a month. Just a
thought. Commissioner Constantine. I and I think Commissioner Hurl will be proud of me. I'm on the dashboard right now. >> What? >> I am proud of you. >> And yeah, I spoke to two groups this week. Um Christian came with me to one
of them as did um Chris and they did know about it. They just didn't know how to get on it and and so that was and they had a lot of great questions and everything like that. But, you know, we're talking about a half a half a month here, right? >> And we're already almost at 11,000
passengers. That's that's pretty darn good, you know. I I would suggest that that's probably more than rode the bus. >> Agreed. >> Huh? >> In one week. >> Agreed. In one week, >> right? >> But and that's what I'm saying. The
interesting thing about this is the the the age distribution that it's almost exactly the same 65 and over and 21 to 34. >> They're both at right 33%. Which is really interesting. I think
that probably the 65 will go higher as we get No. But it is nice to see that you know it's being so well used. The the one thing that I've heard is and I brought it to county manager's attention is a little bit of confusion with the
app and how do we get an app that says scout instead of freebie or go in through the freebie portal and then it populates an app for scout. >> Um because I've had several people call and go well I I went to do it but it just shows up and it's Miami or whatever
on the screen. Well, you got to drop it down, go to Semino County, right? >> All that just a thought. Yeah. >> Yeah. Commissioner Lockard, >> um I had a little scout update on my district report. So, if you don't mind, I'll go ahead and share if I can now and then we'll knock the scout off. >> Yeah.
>> Um >> Tim and I took Scout this weekend and our driver was um absolutely the best ambassador for Scout that you could possibly have. Um most of his information was accurate.
He had no idea who I was. Um I was kind of secret shopping. I didn't mean to be but um one of the things that he feels that he has observed is that the people who are riding now are not the lynx riders and um but that when Christian
and I spoke we do think that these are the folks that we knew existed in the gap they couldn't necessarily afford an Uber or a lift they didn't have the ability to walk to the distance of a lynx bus stop and these are these folks who are trying this for the first time
who maybe would have been stuck at home or or finding some other way. So, >> right. >> Yeah, those people that we really because when we went down this path, we said this is for lynx riders. If you are a lynx rider, this is your replacement. And now we have found that there are
teen more thousands of people who need transportation in this community who didn't have access to it. So, um it it's going to be really interesting to watch. At the links board meeting, we had several UCF students who came to uh express their objection to the
elimination of of the routes. Um there's some misunderstanding about what when you say route 434 and that that's going away and it it the the messaging is difficult when you're used to a particular route, what does that mean?
And so we right up front address the fact that if if you live in Orange County, Ociola County, and you need to get to the UCF campus, the modification that Semino count, the changes that Semino County made in implementing Scout
does not affect your ability to get from where you are to your to your school campus. These would be for Seminal County students. So, we have not heard yet um any displeasure from any Semol County residents who attend UCF. Um
these have mostly been students, UCF students who live in Orange County and are just generally at the upset at the idea of of something change. It's change, right? It's change. They will still have access. They still have the ability to get to campus. It's it will
just be um maybe a different number uh route. So, uh, I had an interview with Night News just this afternoon over the lunch break. Uh, fantastic students from the Nicholson School of Communications who really want to make sure that they get the facts out to their students. And so, they're covering both sides of the
story, those who have been users of links and um, talking to us and and um, what a great opportunity for for us to be able to get the word directly to those students who are going to be reading right news and understand exactly what it is that may be impacting
them. um which if you're in Semino County right now we have had four rides to UCF on Scout and seven rides from UCF on Scout. So over the course of the last
week 11 trips of students util now that's probably more than utilized the links bus route frankly. Um, so but but now we'll be able to know we'll be able to know exactly who needs it, where they're going, where they're coming from, and we'll be able to continue to work on that. And that was one of the things
that the um the reporters from Night News were curious about was are you going to be able to extend hours? And >> maybe, >> right, like we don't know. We're we're taking it one step at a time and and does an extension of hours make sense? And what does that wrership look like?
And it's all, you know, possible possibly. But um but just so you know, there was opposition at the links board meeting to those route changes and um we'll continue to communicate with those folks as best we can and utilize every opportunity. Chris and his team have
been fantastic in making sure that we communicate the positives of scout and um so so far everybody seems to be >> understanding that. >> And ironically on that point, hasn't links now developed a relationship with
freebie? Yeah. So, yeah, the irony is not lost on me. So, at our last links board meeting, we um we approved a contract with Bree Freeb out of Miami to replace um the neighbor link. So, now
Lynx is no longer doing neighbor link in-house. They have outsourced to freebie um and they have found that they can save millions of dollars. >> Wow. >> Amazing. >> Exciting. Um I I it took every bone in my body to not
>> gloat. I bet you it did. >> But yeah, that's true. Yes. So Lynx has has decided that they're going to give Freeb a shot to provide microtransit services. >> Good job. >> And commissioner, we've had two go to UCF today. >> Two rides go to UCF today.
>> I am proud of you down there. >> Thank you. >> Managing the dashboard live. >> That's pretty incredible. All right. Well, district reports, Commissioner Lockheart, you're still up. >> Okay. So, I talked about links. I do want to I
anything that we can do? I know each of us works with different commissioners from different counties on regional boards. Um, this change has ruffled some feathers with some of our partners in some of our neighboring counties. Um, if if you interact uh particularly with
with folks from Ocola County, I'm just going to put it out there because it was at the public meeting at Lynx and it's being discussed. Um there was concern on the part of the Oyola County representative that the folks from Lynx were helping to answer questions about the freebie changes and the route changes that Lynx were was making and
and and my perspective on that is we're still a partner in Lynx. Um we still are serving the same riders. Uh we we need I was I actually said I think it's fantastic that Lynx has been working so collaboratively with our team because we need to make sure that
there's continued connectivity like we're still a regional transportation system. We're just choosing to do things a little bit differently in Seminal County. So, if you can help to um you know reinstill that with any of our partners as you work with them on other
boards, I certainly don't want the change that we decided to make to um to hinder other partnership opportunities moving forward because there's clearly some some ruffled feathers. >> Yeah. I mean, change back to what was said earlier about UCF the change. Uh, I
did interact with one from from that county. Um, and and good dialogue. Um, and my take on it was was the partners can all benefit from the gamble that Seol County has taken to be
the first to go out and see how this works. Uh, instead of everybody doing it at once. Um, you use our experience to your benefit. Um, and it was well taken. Good. >> Yeah. And if I can on that,
Commissioner, you're exactly right. At the regional planning council, there was an Orange County Commissioner that was concerned about it also. And I think the other thing about it is, you know, we are the guinea pig >> if you want to do. But the other thing that I think that I I I heard was that they felt that we were leaving the links
riders behind. And I clearly, you know, squaltched that and said, "No, this is actually going to be even more beneficial to them." and our price uh our pricing is uh at the same level as it would be on links. So once I I was
able to you know tell them that then they didn't have any problem >> and they also didn't realize our our focus on getting people to Sunrail >> that they had no idea of. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. Well, thank you Mr. Delari. >> Mr. Lockard, I think you've posed a
valid point and I think in the past Oyola has pulled back from OEP as it is today and there was no angst from us or anyone else because they were trying something different. Uh I'm not asking you to remind them that but I will be
more than happy to remind those individuals that I know of from Moscow Ocula County that as well. And we did speak about it uh at Metrop Plan uh with a couple of the uh Orange County commissioners and there was a lot of issues that they weren't aware of. So
there's a lot of misinformation. There is shouldn't say a lot. There is some misinformation that's out there. I think that's a better way to put it. >> Oh get to know it. >> Yeah. Great. >> Just takes time. Absolutely. >> It does. And then I appreciate so much everyone being you know all of us are in this together and so the more that we can um can help you know alleviate fears
the better. Thank you. um had a good Sunrail meeting. Uh we did extend hours uh on Sunrail minimally. Uh well, it was a minimal change, but it's going to impact people I I think very positively. So, we had two dead head trains at the
end of the night um that were coming back uh empty there. There weren't people on them. They were just getting them back to where they needed to start the next morning. And so with some tweaking of some times and some some minor modifications of some staffing um
FDOT made the recommendation and there was a lot of discussion about it to make sure that we were making the best decision and for cost purposes and everything. But um so now there are extended southbound trains so from from
Dland southbound I think uh going till 11 o'clock at night. So um yeah. So that did the media has not picked up on that. I'm not quite sure. Um that was actually a pretty significant change and it's and there was another train that was added um in in a gap. There was like a 2hour
gap late in the evening like a nine and then a coming the other direction like a 9 and then 11 and so we put one in at 10:00. Um so it's it's actually more opportunities to ride later into the evening um at an incredibly minimal cost because the train was running anyway.
We're just putting people on it. >> Yeah. Good. Great. >> I could have count come back from homecoming. >> Go Hatters. >> Thank you. >> This weekend, >> I don't think it was in effect yet this weekend because we just voted ahead. So,
I can now go to the elusive grape into land and come home. That's fantastic. >> Yeah, >> great news. >> That is fantastic. >> Check the check the trips and just make sure that I'm outlined. >> Go ahead. Go Hatters. Go Hatters. Okay,
so that's your that's your Sunreil update. And then um and there we also uh shout out to Besash again and the team that's working on the um has been working on the amendment, the first amendment to the local funding agreement that there was that agreement was crazy.
I asked to see the um strike ad version and it was like red underline, red underline, red underline, strike, strike, strike. It was a mess. So they did a fantastic job as a team cleaning that up and really excited about that. um had a briefing with Trisha Johnson and uh Chief Baddard and Chief Spriggs
from the jail and uh Bob Cortez talking about inmate healthcare medical costs. There's a um there's been an ongoing discussion through the Florida Association of Counties about some potential language um change at the legislature that could help local jails
h get access to um Medicare reimbursement for inmates that they don't currently have access to. And I don't and I will not go into the weeds on the language because there's there are a lot of different suggestions about it, but um significant opportunity. The
sheriff's office is working with us. There are a couple of other counties. Um I think it was Pasco County that was one of the counties that's proposing this legislation. It could be several years in the making as a lot of legislative changes tend to be, but could be a
significant impact um to our jail. The the RX is another huge driver. um at the jail. Um and so we're looking at any ways that we can to help support them in that. What is unique about Seol County is that although the sheriff runs the jail, we do actually care how much it
costs. Apparently, other counties, they said that other counties who have given their sheriff the the responsibility of running the jail, they don't necessarily look at at the cost drivers as much. They haven't made quite made that connection yet. So, we're going to see if we can't be supportive and help the
sheriff with some legislation and and at least start talking about this with our county partners and see what we can do. It was a very good meeting with followup to come. >> Um, the Emerald Awards is November 1st at Northland Church in Longwood. Um,
it's a salute to black excellence in Semino County. Commissioner Zenower, thank you so much for your support of this event. It's just a a wonderful grassroots event um highlighting the incredible accomplishments of of the um black community in Semino County. We um
I will be going with the college. Uh the council of presidents has a legislative fly into Tallahassee um next week. So I will be up there. Um always use that as an opportunity to talk to any of our legislators about the things that we have happening here in Semino County as well. Um, so looking forward to that.
And um, did someone say today was National Chocolate Day? >> It is. >> Did you actually say that earlier? >> Yeah. >> When I tried to take >> Well, he was taking all my shot. >> Okay. I thought I heard it, but I couldn't. I didn't remember if it was said officially. Got it. So, today is actual also National First Responders
Day. It was mentioned. Did I take that again? >> Sorry. >> Um, >> you got it for me, too, so I can mark off my >> I'm marking things off that you're saying. Don't worry. Lots and lots and lots of great things happening in Semino County. Thank you all. >> Amen. >> Commissioner her
district. >> All right. On 10:17, I did a tour of the recovery house of Central Florida. If you haven't been there recently, it's probably worth a tour. It is very different from what it used to be. New management structure and style and all
of the stuff. And they are doing a serve hope gayla on the 14th. Um, and tables are very affordable. This is a fundraiser. So, anybody that might want to buy a table, that would be awesome. And they are uh working toward a capital
fund raise. If you live in Semino County and you happen to be addicted and you happen to be a woman, you cannot get treatment in this county. Our center doesn't host women. Recovery House doesn't host women.
Interesting. So there are no there are So they want to change that. They've found a property and they are looking to change that and have this be an equal opportunity cure location. So I am happily supporting that. Um I did go to
the Semino County Public Schools annual foundation night of impact. Significant amount of money was raised. The most remarkable thing is that that started in 1987 um and uh with Dee Shaner and God bless
her $65 million has been raised since she started that. And at the point that I joined that board, she was running it on a legal pad with a pencil. >> And running it she was. >> And running it she was. Yes. And so it from its meager start to where it is
today with an accounting system which is pretty cool. But amazing work that's been done over the years there. I did attend the legislative session. I sit in the back and listen to the majority of it um when our legislative delegation came. Uh Commissioner Zimbau did a good
job of representing us and the day is just always an interesting one. >> It is. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So and then Sanford's state of the city lunchon. I was asked why I never attend it and I told them I'm not a member of the chamber nor have I ever been invited
to attend it. So that turned into an invitation. It was delightful. I did get to meet the new uh owners of the Sanford Mall and they uh talked about their vision for the mall which includes a big box
store that sells cheap hot dogs is how they say it because there's apparently an NDA. Um and so that's happening. It it was uh very nicely done. The Sanford Chamber host it and it's nicely done.
And um HSN gave me the opportunity to present Kim Fogle with the Thomas C. Chapman Jr. Community Champion Champion Award and it was really nice to see a project in Seminal County get recognized
in Orange County and uh she was she was quite delighted by that. I do want to let you know that uh I did ask county team to look at two parcels of land that may become available that
are adjacent to the Smith Canal and may be valuable for drainage or future work. They are not on the market yet. A owner reached out and I've connected them to the team. So, we may be hearing more about that at some
point. And the last shout out I'll give is it was wonderful to see Christina Brandolini standing here looking like nothing ever happened. But she is in the middle of annual open enrollment. And if you have not done your annual open enrollment, now is the time to do it. Don't say you didn't hear about it.
10:24 to 11:7. I've already enrolled. I hope you all do as well. >> All right. Good. Commissioner Delari. >> Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh just quickly have one item. Yes. metrop plan. We hosted uh a regional meeting with the
Tampa Bay region. Uh they have several NPOs over in the Tampa Bay area and they are looking to consolidate all their NPOS into one and they're trying to figure out the pros and cons. That's why they came to Mitch Plan
Orlando. Uh it started yesterday at 9:00 in the morning and it finished I think it was like 2:30. Uh I want to thank uh Commissioner Constine for being there most of the time. Uh there's a lot of great input, a lot of questions. Uh they were very intrigued on how three
different counties can work together for the good of the region and still feel as if they get their fair share >> feel. >> It was quite interesting. >> Yeah. >> And they were also concerned about small cities
uh not being heard. And as we know, we have several small cities, not just in Semol, but Oyola and Orange. And they actually reported out that they feel as if they do get their voices heard. And so there's a lot of great dialogue. And
one of the dialogues that they were talking about is that they wanted to hear more about I shouldn't say at this point they wanted to watch to see what was happening with scout because a lot of them use it on a much smaller area and they are looking to
learn from semol and I just told them I said just give us a couple of months and then reach out to our staff and I'm sure we'll be more than happy to share our lessons learned and uh so we're all being watched from that standpoint. point and they're also concerned about
how we as a region came together to actually bring uh Sunreil to fruition as it is today and what's moving forward. So just want to let you all know that people are watching us from different aspects from the region and from different parts of the state. So end of
my report. >> Thank you Commissioner and this will be Commissioner Constantine District three. >> Thank you very much. Um, I did want to make you aware that on October 15th, the thousand friends of Florida did a webinar on uh, Senate Bill 180, which
was very well attended. There was over a thousand attendees that was done virtual. Um, and I I I watched it myself. I sent it to our county attorney's office and I am going to ask Beatatric to send it to all of your offices. It was really good. People like
Richard Groso, who's an attorney down in South Florida. How long is the uh >> It's about an hour. Okay. >> Yeah. And it's it really was very informative. Even some things that what things that would happen that I didn't I
hadn't thought of, but they even had a um city commissioner from uh Deltona that was talking about um her concerns and what has happened just in Deltona on it already. And then um so there was there was two there was another attorney
um who happens to be on the board of thousand friends with me Susan and she was also talking she's an attorney for cities uh down south and she was also talking about some of the things so I think you might you know if you get a chance it's uh it's very interesting >> so commissioner on that yes
>> is the attorney of record in the litigation correct >> yes he is >> and and city of Deltona didn't they just take a vote to withdraw from litigation >> I I am not aware of that. >> Pretty sure they did. >> Okay. >> Not sure why. >> Well, I will tell you and you could some
of the things that are in there as to you know and a lot of the cities are and you know nobody's advocating that. I'm just this is just an information as to what it what the cause and effect is. >> Sure. And so I think that if you took a
look at it, they were just talking about as well as us, you know, they sent their concerns like all of us, like the Florida Association of Counties has. So I just think that if you want to just learn more, it's there for you uh for your benefit. >> There's no recommendations just for
information purposes. It's telling you what hap what what it the effect of it is as very similar to you know Kate with her letter had done but this is goes in a little bit more detail. Um, if uh I
did want to talk to you about uh English Estates, one of our homeowners associations, it's in uh Commissioner Lockhart's district had a fall festival which was very nice little community festival um that uh uh we have so many and you know festivals it's just
wonderful here in Semino County. >> Do you do you go to all of them? >> No. >> Can't go to all of them. I see you at a lot of them though, Bob. I don't know. I just want to make sure I missed some of them. That's why I wanted to notice >> and I'll go through some of the ones that I did go to. >> I never got the notice.
>> On October 23rd uh or October 22nd, the statewide council on opio debatement, which both the sheriff and I are on uh had a meeting. Um we one of the things one of the new endorsements that we are suggesting to the state is that the
program that the University of Central Florida has which is unique uh concerning uh you know help and psychological with with talking about being uh you know first responders day um with the problems that first responders are having with the uh
protection and uh treatment of opioid abatement and other drugs. drugs that they're having their own psychological problems and uh to put some new dollars from the state level from the state's portion of those dollars that they're
getting from the opioid um opioid um >> thank you. Uh so um that was another thing that we've been talking about on the u on the 24th at the Orange County
Regional Economic Summit. I just wanted to give a shout out to you, Commissioner Zimbau. Um I was there and uh I thought that you did a wonderful job as part of the whole panel for Semino County and you know in um in dealing with the other
Orange and Oyola County on some new and innovative approaches. >> Thank you. Um on October 24th also there was the leadership 70 third down room call of service and uh I thought that was a well attended event with a number of different um of our 501c3
corporations there looking for volunteers also um tomorrow at the sheriff's office commissioner uh our sheriff Lima and myself and others will be um doing a
project overdose program, leadership program concerning some new and innovative approaches along with Andre Bailey of Project Overdose. Uh the um looking forward to you, Commissioner Her on the 30th. You always are having a lot
of fun uh at the um mayor's update as you do that every year. The regional planning council, by the way, talking about other counties, is going to have a meeting at uh Neo Center or Neo City, I'm sorry, uh Neo Academy in CMI this
next uh month. So, that should be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing that. I have not been there um yet, but I've heard a lot about it and read a lot about it. And also at um Champions Gate, this might be interesting for all of us as well as
Christian because of you know what we're doing with Scout. On the 5th and 6th, the uh there's going to be a summit on automated vehicle programming and um I u am looking forward to going out there and I've been invited by one of the
presenters and I'm looking forward to going out there and seeing some of that. Speaking of some of the events other than uh English estates, just wanted to also say that we had um a wonderful
event for the German American Society this past Saturday. Uh well attended, in fact, very well attended. It was oh well crowded. Could hardly get in. And upcoming is the city of Altoont Springs Halloween at Crane's Roost. Always a
very safe environment for children to get a lot of candy. That's what they want. Um, on the same night as the Emerald Awards, I'll be attending the Lifeboat Project, which is having their annual. So, I will be missing the Emerald, although I wish I could be
there, but uh I'm on the board of the Lifeboat Project, so I will be there. Castleberry >> Community Project. >> Thank you. Castleberry on November 3rd is having their 15th annual food and wine, um, which should be a lot of fun. the um
the uh Greek festival is coming up the 7th through the 9th. Annunciation Catholic Church's fall festival is the 7th and the 8th. Um one thing that I hope all of you are planning on attending is November 12th, the Central Florida Zoo is having a government
preview of the u of the Asian Lantern. Um always a great event and their biggest fundraiser of the year. And then our good friend uh uh Joe Gallagher and their glass full of hope will be at Crane's Roose this year on November
13th. And I think I'm done. >> Thank you very much for the indulgence. >> Thank you. >> I'm tired just thinking about all those things. >> Well, glad a lot of that's out of the way. So October 15th I attended the U econ
zone and the hard launch for the scout uh microobility here. Um AHAC meeting. Um, some things came out of the affordable housing committee that have been festering for some time, which is the
challenges that some of our partners, our our private partners have with getting through the permitting process uh at the city of Sanford. >> Numerous discussions have been had. I've spoken to
staff and leadership at at uh the city, but it continues to be a challenge. Uh so the direction was given to the chairman of the Ahack board to draft a letter to the mayor uh just outlining again some of the struggles that we have
and and getting some of that process done. um our desire is to to try to foster and help that situation and and so forth, but it becomes a problem when you have grant monies or federal money being
pledged and there's deadlines on that that you have to be in and families have got to be uh housed and so that continues to be somewhat of a struggle. So hopefully we can work our way through that and and find a better place. Uh
>> Mr. uh >> yes >> with I I know you don't want to probably go into too much detail and it's great to know that we're trying to help. Do we have we identified exactly how we can help with the city of Sanford because it's not just housing where they're
struggling. It's it's also businesses, restaurants, >> understood. Uh >> the list goes on. >> Yeah. I can't answer that question directly, but it it all has to seem to revolve around a timing issue, efficiency of getting something in on
the front end and out on the back end. Um, you know, it'd be easy for me to say it starts with leadership, but um something is a miss. There's no urgency. Um, and I'll give you one example was we
had a an applicant that went through the whole process. Um, you know, you have to go through a historic review at the city of Sanford because it may be in a historic, you know, facade that has to be put on and got all the way through and then for whatever reason they didn't
move through move force. They turned it over to another entity and then they were forced to start all over again. And what the first entity was told they could do, the second entity was told can't do.
>> Exact same project. Nothing changed. Um, so it's at one point it actually put the county in jeopardy of losing monies that had been pledged for affordable housing
because we weren't going to meet the deadline under the federal guidelines to get a certificate of occupancy. Those kinds of things are are what we're continuing to deal with. And some of our nonprofit partners continue to struggle
to get through the process. And I've met I met with the city manager twice now in my office um and assured that steps were being taken to to foster and get it moved forward. But I still we still hear the complaints and the concerns. So, I
don't have a a hard answer, but that's some of the things we're dealing with. >> My two cents would be anything that we can do to provide support to our largest city. Happy to provide that support. >> Correct. >> Yeah. So, I've talked to staff about that and, you know, again, anything we
can do to help um get through that process. >> Chairman. >> Yes. >> So, this is not new. maybe new to the nonprofits that are now building, but this is this has been going on since I've been elected
and periodically those issues come through my office and we can figure out how to try to move the needle individually. Um, we have I think Darren and his team have a list of items from me to include
where are we with the interlocal agreement and what are we how are we dealing with some of the things that have happened over the years. I would tell you that I think there is there are just challenges that are very similar to what I would say I walked
into here when I got here. So, we're going to watch them go through similar iterations, I think, of change and and we've offered support. Um, there has to be a willingness on both sides. The mayor and I talk about things regularly. I would tell you one of the
other things that is a significant challenge that we have got to address is this notion that when you put a subdivision in that touches a county and touches the city and touches the
homeowners association that one ditch is being serviced by three different entities and we can't seem to get out of our own way. The ditch never flows because they're not cycled at the same time. And so there's al there's a long list of stuff that has to be addressed,
>> right? >> Um and the permitting for businesses is >> it it's a lot. It is a lot. Part of it is infrastructure that you know they're tangled in old infrastructure, but that shouldn't be a surprise after
somebody's outlaid capital, >> right? Yeah. Well, the JPA expires wouldn't end this month. >> It's already expired. That's my last point and we're we're working with the city on that. >> Okay. And this board's going to weigh in on that. >> Absolutely.
>> Good. All right. Um, night of impact, Gayla was mentioned. Great great work there. A lot of money raised. Well attended. Um, legislative delegation was mentioned. I won't go into that. Orange County summit which on the 24th. Um
each county shared some of the specific challenges that we believe we'll have moving to the future. And as you can imagine, some of ours are in stark contrast to what others might have been. But there is talk about regional u
collaboration uh on transportation related items as well as perhaps development related items. Um and and we've pledged to keep our ears open, have the dialogue as far as you know the three counties and go. So Darren also
was in attendance. So he got to see a lot of his counterparts and take notes and understand where if we move forward with some of those initiatives um it'll come back to this board for discussion and so forth. Um
Sanford intern yeah we're at Sanford International Airport spoke about the Aerajjet uh inaugural flight which came in this weekend. New carrier three three flights round trip uh a week is what's
planned right now. they will be feeding all of Latin America and uh so they're gonna the Punta Gorda or Punta K um is is where they're based out of uh but they they're looking to expand in other
airports around the United States, but they also are going to be flying into South America, multiple destinations there. So you can go from here to one to others and they will bring others from those areas back up into here. Interesting enough, uh, a big portion of
those that flew in this weekend were going to be playing golf in Semino County. They're going to play the Wakiva Club. They were going to play over at Heathrow, uh, and a couple other courses. And they were going to go on the airboat rides over in the Black Hammock. Uh, they were going to the zoo.
They had it all planned out for Semino County. So, >> doesn't put heads in. >> That's right. Exactly. um attended the juvenile justice uh committee meeting and I got to tell you
um a lot of talk about the the juveniles and the age groups and the programs that are avail but it's not the food program. Um but it
>> now and plan >> that's right. Um and the understanding and what we learned was our sheriff's department is doing great work in that silo that is not
necessarily being done by others. Some of them actually have some barriers that domestic violence cannot be considered for a juvenile to enter into the SNAP program. ours is not that way. The sheriff's office here is not that way. So, that's a huge benefit
to our citizens and these young people. Um, and getting the outcome that we want and quite honestly deserve, which ends up saving the taxpayers dollars at the end of the the round with if we can keep people from going on about a life of crime and get them integrated back into
the community at at a young age, the payoff is huge. So, good work by the sheriff's office. Um there is some other initiatives that the juvenile justice system is looking at. There's a couple of uh circuits. I think circuit 4, which I believe is in the Jacksonville area,
is doing some unique work with the young people. So they're going to be looking at that here in our district and across the state to maybe adopt some of those things that would be helpful for our juveniles, you know, here. So, good work
there. Um, also want to the emu, Geneva emu was mentioned earlier. He has a fan club. You can buy a button that you could wear the Geneva emu. Um,
I've spoke to some of the folks out there in my district and and urged them the best they can. try to keep the emu at bay instead that are running around with our our people chasing them and so forth. Uh again, just want to take a minute and thank all the veterans um for
this county and and nationwide for giving us the ability to assemble like we were able to do here today and and all the freedoms that we we have and great uh great work by everybody this morning and celebrating the veterans and and Judge Woodruff in that veterans court was if you ever had the
opportunity to go watch that >> amazing amazing work um that's not being done in a lot of places. So that's the end of my report and I will now move to public comment items not on the agenda.
Reminder for those who are going to speak on non-aggenda items, this has to do with county business only. This is not a an area that you talk about federal or state or judicial or campaigning or anything else. This is
something the purview of the county commission would have control of in the county. With that said, each will get three minutes. We'll call one name at a time. >> The only speaker, Mr. Chairman, is John Stewart. >> Sir John Stewart, you have three minutes, sir. Please come up.
>> Your name and address for the record, sir? >> John Stewart, 693 White Cliff Place, Winter Springs, Florida. And thank you for recognizing the veterans. Uh, as you can see, I am one. Um, I don't speak for veterans. I don't want to get them in trouble.
Um, but and and I appreciate the kind words about the sheriff. Uh, about a half a mile from my house, a woman was uh abducted by some drug dealers um in the middle of the day, Tuscilla, you
know, not Paramore. And they killed her and our sheriff had them behind bars within a few weeks. um he has cut uh opioid uh fentanyl deaths by about 42% in the last year and uh I've
seen those those courts uh you know those programs uh up close I do volunteer and they're about they have about a uh the rehab programs have about a 70% uh success rate which is incredible
and uh I saw a sheriff speak um at the budget hearing. Sounded like he asked for 16, he got 15. I don't think anybody would begrudge him another million dollars. But what a lot of people have a problem with, including our CFO and our auditor,
are things like the $9.6 million for WB equestrian 50 acre horse ranch. Guess you can't run a county without one of those. Then there's the infamous $8 million road to nowhere over at Five
Points. Good news, no traffic. And then uh two golf courses for uh $13.7 million. Hard to resist a BOGO. I mean, I shop at Publix, too. And I know, you know, you'll say, "Well, we buy up all this
property to stop it from being developed." Well, I mean, you control zoning. you know, remember Nancy Reagan? Just say no. Okay. So, in in this endless smear of uh of our, you know, our bookkeeper, our
auditor really bothers me. I mean, I've got 40 years of experience in finance. I hold degrees in finance, business administration, IT. I had a series 7, the series 66. I could go on. And I can tell that you're, you know, you these
these criticisms are baseless. And I don't know what a letter from Jimmy Petronis is going to do for you. Our new CFO is uh Bla1 Angolia. And you know, comparing him to uh Joel Greenberg, I don't know if you've apologized, Commissioner Lockhart, but that was
pretty bad. That was just unprofessional. >> Sir, we're not going to sit here while you make statements about the commission. If you got a topic, continue on. You got 15 seconds, so let's wrap it up. >> I'm I'm pretty much done, but uh you know, you really shouldn't interrupt me while I've got time on the clock either. So, uh,
>> we expect proper decor if you can't if you can't >> Well, it's the truth, isn't it? Wasn't there a comparison with Joel Greenberg who's in prison? >> Your time's up, sir. Thank you very much. >> Okay. Well, thank you. >> Anyone else? >> No, sir. >> Thank you very much. Anything else for
the good of the order? >> No, sir. >> Seeing none, we're dismissed. [Music] [Music]
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