--------- also is National Medal of Honor day here in the country one of the highest medals or the highest medal that can best stowed upon someone and uh we'll get to our veterans Proclamation here shortly first we're going to start with our invocation this is going to be put on by Mr Pastor Andy serles and then
commissioner herw lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance please rise Pastor let us pray Heavenly Father We Gather today to serve our community seeking wisdom unity and Clarity in our
decisions may we lead with Integrity be guided by compassion and Justice always mindful of those we serve bless our leaders with discernment our citizens with peace and our County with prosperity May our actions today seow
the seeds of a brighter tomorrow amen amen amen it's because of our veterans and those that serve that we have the privilege of saying I pledge Ali to the flag of the United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice thank you commissioner and thank you Pastor we sincerely appreciate it next we're going to move on to our proclamations this is a proclamation
claiming staff Serge Sergeant Tommy aleris United States Air Force of seminal County's March veteran of the month this will be read by commissioner delari and I would urge each and every one of you to silence your cell phones and any other electronic devices you may have thank you Mr chairman thank you
thank you Mr chairman as all the uh veterans proclamations are all very special uh and this one uh have known uh the staff sergeant for many years so it uh it's great that I'm able to to present this
not just to you staff sergeant but also to the community proclamation of the Su County Bard County Commissioners United States Air Force Sergeant Tommy alera for his outstanding service to the United States in semal
County whereas the brave men and women of our army navy Marines Air Force Coast Guard and space force demonstrate a Resolute Spirit of unmatched selfishness reminding us of the few things more americ Americans can give giving of
ourselves than making a difference in the lives of others whereas throughout our country's history generations of servicemen members have answered the call to leaving their families in their jobs and putting their future and even their lives in line Val to defend our
nation where as many service members have sacrificed and ended in permanent injury of death yet their Spirit remains in a continuous preservation of freedom and the promise of Liberty whereas there are more than 30,000 living veterans in
s County who have served our nation in time of Peace in war though their service have kept American strong and whereas staff sergeant Tommy ala has listed in the United States Air Force on active duty on April 1986 and separated out of the
air force on October 1994 he was Electronics Warfare technician completing multiple ments with the first Special Operations Wing in support of operation just course Operation Desert Shield Operation Desert
Storm and with the 352nd Special Operations Wing in support of operation providing Comfort one two and three operation promise and operation denied flight during his service staff sergeant Tommy Aliva received the John levetto
award as top leader in his class he's also received the reciprocate of the Air Force combination medal Air Force Achievement medal The Joint Maris unit Award with two Oak cleave clusters Southwest Asian service Award
Medal with three bronze Stars among 13 other metals and ribbons and where staff sergeant Tommy aliv moved to seal County in 1994 and has been a resident since he began his work here in semal County as a Senior Team
Leader uh of the office of Information Technology on September 2000 and currently St staff sergeant Tomy Rivera has served as board member of the past president of Central Florida uh Board of certified public managers and is
currently the vice chairman of the regional domestic security Task Force 5 and currently the chairman of the Orlando urban area security initiative and where staff sergeant Tommy ala has brought great credit and distinction
upon himself United States of America United States Air Force and semal County now therefore we Proclaim that we the Border County Commissioner of suel County Florida express our gratitude admiration and respect for staff sergeant Tommy Olivera for his outstanding service to United States Air
Force and residents of sunel County be further Proclaim that this Proclamation be presented to the staff sergeant uh Tommy Aliva among with our sincere gratit ude and recognition of sim County Veteran of the month adopted this 25th
day March 2025 second motion second all those in favor I oos like sign seeing none carries unanimous congratulations thank you very much for your [Applause]
service you join us up front we'll get a picture and ask you to have a few words for us [Music] you as big a sacrifice he two one that's a nice play I just want to Chairman uh board um
County management senior leadership um everyone in the audience my staff my lovely wife and son here um just want to thank everybody for this great honor and it is really an honor it's a civil servic is a very Noble job and U I just
want to thank everyone for this uh recognition thank you so much honor is ours thank you thank you very much next we're going to go to our investment advisor report it's going to be done remote we have Mr McIntyre queued
up okay can you guys hear me okay we can hear you great thank you fantastic I'm I'm always a word whenever this is remote but uh I'll make this fairly quick kind of cut to the chase we're we're not making recommendations at this point the market
has rallied quite a bit and been a lot of purchases that have been made but um the on again off again I'm sorry I can't see the slide moment but the off again on again tariff have been disruptive to the
market and uh I'm sorry Jeremiah I can't see that let me there we go there we go um inflation concerns have shifted to recession worries I think everybody's aware of that now I I don't know how valid that is but some of the real-time
measures are are negative at this point in time so there is some concern it doesn't mean that it can't write itself very quickly but right now it's a shaky Market both bonds and stocks for what it's worth stocks are up today um I think volatility is something we're all
going to have to get used to for at least the first half of this year and that that extreme uncertainty is affected consumer confidence and business confidence business investment spending stock prices everything at this point because we don't have a handle on
things and the FED doesn't have a handle on things the FED did meet um this couple weeks now um they met in March uh they didn't do anything they they did not cut rates they didn't raise rates pal was as it usually is pretty
evenhanded in terms of his assessment of things and there was an a fresh Dot Plot which is the outlook for interest rates among the FED members in that fresh Dot Plot continued to indicate two rate Cuts
all both of those in the second half of this year now those rate Cuts really are going to depend on a couple of things and one of the things is that it's going to depend on is inflation getting back in line um we did have a what I would consider to be a a
solid fair enough CPI report so core CPI actually fell to a four-year low most people look through these CPI numbers despite the fact that this is cooling inflation it's also February and tariffs are going to go into place in in March
and and then we're going to have reciprocal tariffs that are like to go into place in April so a lot of this inflation we haven't seen yet and the market understands that the FED understands that one of the things that that pal did that I thought was interesting at the meeting was that he
differentiated between what he called tariff inflation and regular inflation and that really opens up the door for him to be able to potentially cut rates if the economy sof significantly even though inflation may be headed higher
because he's he's made that differentiation so we'll keep you eye on that the next slide please as we usually do we show you where rates have been and where they are now the the 2-year treasury note got down to about 390 the other day when I
created this slide it was down to 392 it's up a little bit now but it's it's considerably lower than it's been over the course of the last several months which means that the County the clerk's offices made purchase is at significantly higher levels than we
currently are the expectation is that yields are going to continue to fall throughout this year so uh they' just come a long way in a short period of time next slide please so um upcoming maturities actually there are no maturities in
April there is there are a number of maturities at the end of May but I figured I would address those the next time I'm in front of you guys so we've got a $13 million treasury security that's maturing ing in about 6 weeks other than that there's just a cash
that's on hand recent Investments I will tell you that if you you tally up the 35 that was reinvested um before yields dropped which is which is nice that was done following the last meeting uh and and
then you look at the purchases that were made in January and December they total about 330 so that's roughly a third of the portfolio almost of those have been pushed out well beyond a year in some cases two and three years and and the
clerk's office has been able to lock in you know roughly 420 430 435 so some pretty good levels so right now this is a fors us the the luxury of of holding steady a lot of Investments have been done recently uh there are not
maturities that we have to address the last two maturities were were rolled over at favorable levels so again that makes it pretty easy in terms of of what we're asking for here which is which is basically a hold until
I'm in front of you guys in in a month Mr chairman let me Jeremiah if we can go to one more slide um sure go ahead the February yield on the portfolio was 448 um and again the two-year got down to
390 the the mix between fixed and floating about 83% was fully invested as of the end of February and as of the end of March it's going to be about 82% so it's a well- invested portfolio at this point in time it's it's somewhat
backloaded relative to what has been done in the past and that's deliberate with the expectation that yields are going to continue to fall so is there is there any I guess we have to ask for a motion at this point Mr chairman commissioner lari i' like to make a motion to
implement the recommendations of our financial advisor based on the report submitted today and recommend the clerk Implement uh said recommendations second motion to Second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor I oppose like sign seeing none carries unanimous
thank you Mr McIntyre for appearing remotely today we're glad well I appreciate it it's good to see you guys we'll see you next month very well be safe all right next we're going to move to our consent agenda items these are items 3 through 21 if you are here and
desire to speak on any of these items items 3 through 21 please fill out a speaker's form in the lobby bring it down and hand it to the clerk Miss Dominique here down at the front she'll get you queed and we'll call you up to speak on of these items if you desire to
do so I will go to the county attorney Miss Kate Lor for the rules of public engagement thank you Mr chairman and good morning Florida law provides that members of the public shall be given a reasonable opportunity to be heard on propositions before the board of County Commissioners except when the board is acting on emergency or ministerial
matters or conducting a meeting exempt from the requirements of the Sunshine Law individuals shall be permitted 3 minutes each for public comment or 6 minutes when the individual is an official representative of a formal Association or group the chairman May modify the maximum time for public
comment at his sole discretion when appropriate public comments on quasi judicial or other public hearing items will occur during the board's consideration of those items this afternoon public comments on pending procurement matters or on non-agenda items shall not be permitted at this
time members of the public Desiring to make public comment must fill out a speaker form and present the form to staff forms are available in the lobby Mr chairman thanks Mr Tori Madam County manager's office do we have any updates deletions additions to
the agenda yes sir item number five we are recommending be pulled and moved to the next board meeting okay item five we pulled and rescheduled to the next board meeting that's all I have anything else no sir
okay is there any commissioner that desires to have any of the items pulled for separate consideration seeing none we will go to the public any members of the public here to speak on any of the agenda items no sir we'll close public input and go to board action Mr chairman commissioner
Constantine I will move um the constitutional consent item number three and the county manager consent items 4 through 21 except for five second motion second any further discussion all those
in favor I oppose like sign seeing none carries unanimous thank you very much all right now we will move on to our regular agenda we'll give folks here in the audience that uh may be departing us a moment to exit so we make sure that we
are able to focus on our next item next item is our regular agenda will be item number 22 the homelessness update be presented by Trish Johnson Deputy County manager which I think is now going to be possibly switched a little bit I'll
still be presenting but Carrie longsworth will also be tag teaming with me this morning great as well as Chris ham from Rescue outre Outreach Mission thank you sir and good morning uh chairman and Commissioners our team is here to provide an overview of the funding history hist between seol County
government and rescue Outreach Mission our agenda for this presentation first Carrie longsworth will highlight some of the agencies that serve the homeless Community here in our County followed by some seminal action board history I will then provide a highlevel summary of various federal state and local funding
programs followed by an overview of the County's funding funding history with Rah and then Chris ham the executive director of ROM and Christine Schaefer the director of shelter services will will join us to present at the conclusion of our slides at this time I'd like to turn the microphone over to
Carrie longsworth our division manager of community Assistance good morning Commissioners Carrie longsworth community Assistance division manager I just want to touch a little bit about some of the agencies that are serving our homeless population um there's been a lot of talk lately about some overlap
of services collaboration among the nonprofits and so this slide right here really represents agencies that are focused on the housing component of homelessness of of course there's other agencies that are providing support mental health H uh food different things like that substance use but this is
really the housing piece and this is kind of how we can break homelessness up when we look at services that are provided for housing if you can look at the uh far left you're going to see that the largest overlap is going to be our Prevention Services that's really keeping people in their homes paying one-time rental assistance utilities to
keep them house so they do not enter the homeless system we also have a rapid rehousing program which which there are several agencies providing that service that is actually going to be um Services mostly targeting families with minor children it does short to medium-term
rental assistance usually about 6 to 12 months along with case management in the hopes that they can quickly be housed and maintain self-sufficiency if you look at the two smaller boxes the top one is our permanent support of housing they're the fewest agencies provide those Services
um the County Community Services offices uh provide services to about 70 chronically homeless individuals and Aspire Health Partners provide services to about 25 homeless individuals these are individuals that have been on the streets for a year longer they usually have severe mental
health Andor substance use issues and this is our hardest population that we do work with this is ongoing support with rental and case management assistance we also have another group that provides transitional housing this actually is not traditionally funded by um HUD any longer but there are some
agencies and some populations that really benefit from transitional housing so Empower works with our youth that are aging out of foster care ages 18 to 24 they provide them with some Housing Services along with Case Management Mental Health Services and Pathways to
care is actually a rest bit program that provides assistance for individuals coming out of the hospital that need medical rest bit um if they don't have anywhere else to go our street Outreach programs actually do a wide range of things but their goal is not necessarily
housing directly but but to get people ready to be housed so they're engaging with our homeless that are in the camps our Aspire Health Partners as well as our salt mobile Outreach actually has individuals that go out into the camps to try to get people ready to be housed get their documents get them on the
registry list um salt mobile Outreach also has mobile showers that goes out they provide things such as clean socks that are needed food and other um items they can distribute and then the Christian Sharing Center has our Drop in Center The Oasis where individuals can come they can get showers they can wash
their clothes charge their phone they can receive mail there as well as Case Management Services and then obviously our last category is our shelters we do have four shelters in simal County they all have a different population that they serve our shelter that um serves
men women and children is the rescue Outreach Mission with the largest bed count we also have boy town which does youth ages 12 to 17 we have recovery house which has some beds available for men who have substance use ISS issues and our Safe House of simol which are is
our Domestic Violence Shelter simol County Community Services Department also provides Bridge housing and hotels for families with minor children when there's no space available at the rescue Outreach Mission because there are limited rooms there um also we're going to touch a little bit on the seminal action board
again there's been a lot of talk lately about homeless plans what's the County's um response to homelessness what has happened task force that have met um there has not been an official task force prev previously that's met for a while since the seminal action board um the seminal action board was kind of
born out of the leadership Seal's in Vision conference and simal County actually funded simal um leadership seminal to provide a working group a task force really made up of Business Leaders Community leaders there were some nonprofits the school board the
colleges the Sheriff's Office and some of the government agencies to really tackle homelessness as it was becoming a larger issue in simol County the board officially started meeting in June of 2016 and continued to meet through November of 2020 the chairs of the board
were John Hillen Meer and Wendy Brandon and they met about once a month they also had a consultant that was um brought along to assist this board um and all the nonprofits kind of working together in a more coordinated fashion Philip who was the president of
the American Roundtable to abolish homelessness they did have a strategy during the first year that they were put um together they wanted to house 120 families and 50 individuals the homeless providers both the nonprofits and the community
services office together ended up assisting 142 families and 117 individuals for a total of more than 500 people housed this that first year additionally warle park with wend over housing and 82 unit development in Stanford that was specifically housing
homelessness um was brought because of this it was built it opened in May of 2020 the county worked closely to get individuals housed into worly park and um when arpa funding came around the county allocated $250,000 to the nonprofit that was working with Wendover A Step Up on
Second to provide Case Management Services the semal action board did report in their first year that they were able to leverage more than $2 million in both housing and services through things like worly Park as well as housing vouchers through the homeless Services Network working with the
nonprofits thank you Carrie before we review the funding timeline I'd like to quickly highlight some Key Programs that support rescue Outreach mission in many of our community not for-profits I know this board is very familiar with these programs but it can look like acronym soup to members of the public so I'll
quickly highlight them Community Development block grants are federal dollars provided annually to entitlement cities and counties for various activities related to property acquisition and Rehabilitation emergency solution grants are also federal dollars provided annually for
shelter operations and essential Services related to homelessness you are of course familiar with our community service agreements the County's annual grant program for essential and Supportive Services provided to not for profits These funds originate from the County's general fund and of course we
all remember car's and American Rescue plan act funds provided by the federal government directly related to financial hardship experienced as a as experienced as a result of the covid-19 pandemic and finally the state housing initiatives
partnership or ship funds are a one-time state funded grant that supports various activities related to home and property acquisition the following timeline is a highlevel overview of the County's funding relationship with rescue Outreach Mission since 2004 while there
are nearly 30 agreements that span the last 20 years I will highlight just a few of these in 2013 the county entered into a contract with ROM pursuant to a cdbg developer agreement which grants the county a mortgage on two ROM
properties the men's and women's shelter shelters excuse me this agreement committed 1.1 million in cdbg funds to renovate the men's shelter and construct the women's shelter these properties have active restricted use covenants with a term of June
2034 I have received a few questions about what would happen if ROM deter it no longer wish to operate these properties as a shelter with active restricted use covenants attached if that were to occur the county could foreclose on its mortgage interest on
the properties it's important to note the county is not under any obligation to continue to operate these properties as a shelter but the county could convey the properties to another not for-profit to continue to operate them as shelter or the restricted use covenants could be
modified so that a not for-profit could operate differently in the those properties but still provide low to moderate Income Support to various individuals in September 2019 the county committed emergency funding totaling
120,000 general fund dollars to support ROM's payroll at the time restricted use covenants were placed on three vacant properties owned by ROM this is in addition to the two active restricted use covenants on the aforementioned
shelter locations these three restricted use Covenants have since expired seal County purchased 2105 Hartwell Avenue in 2013 and later that year conveyed the property to rescue Outreach Mission the property was
restricted to low to moderate income tenants for a 30-year term in October 2020 the county purchased the property back from Rescue Outreach mission for $157,000 using ship funds following a $184,000 renovation of the property
using home and cdbg funds the county has since conveyed the property to Resurrection Community Housing Development as you know the county entered into various arpa agreements with Rah I will highlight just a few of these the arpa funds for rescue Outreach
Mission total 2,850,000 all funds were fully expended by September 2024 an amendment was executed in January 2023 I mentioned this amendment simply because it includes the addition
of three restricted use covenants for the three vacant properties I mentioned earlier the maturity date for this agreement is June 2026 therefore at this point all five of the ROM properties have restricted use covenants attached as you recall a mutual
termination agreement for arpa funds was executed by the board in November 2023 and a revised funding agreement was later approved this slide highlights funds awarded to ROM by the county broken into two times time frames 2004 to 2018 and
2019 to present as you can see the County's relationship with rescue Outreach Mission became more involved in 2019 this is just another overview of the funds that have been awarded to ROM the various categories over the last 20
years I have received some questions related to the County's funding process for these various programs that I mentioned earlier and then on this slide I'd like to ask Carrie back just for a moment to highlight how we fund particularly ESG CSA and cdbg programs
thank you Carrie thank you Commissioners um Carrie longsworth again for the record uh we actually have a competitive process for our federal dollars that come into the county simal county is an entitlement Community from HUD and so we receive the Community Development block grant and the emergency Solutions Grant
funds on an annual basis we do put out a notice of funding availability to our nonprofit Partners they are able to apply uh there's a Review Committee that ranks the applications and scores them we make funding recommendations based on the funding we've received and the applications that have been submitted
and then ultimately we do bring those decisions to the board of County Commissioners to be able to approve in our annual action plan process every year in August um something important to note that we have um looked at with our csas obviously is the board that is obviously board um General Revenue
funding there is an application process as well we do look at the needs assess as being the driving force of the top needs that are identified in the community and that's the priority of agencies that are receiving funding with our federal dollars that are coming into
the county the county does have the option to run those uh dollars internally on programs with cdbg working on Parks working with the cities for infrastructure projects such as sidewalks and lighting for our ESG programs we also have the option to run those on rapid rehousing which we do
keep some internally and also our Prevention Services um so it is this board's prerogative to keep the funds inhouse or put them out to the nonprofits thank you Carrie and Mr chairman and Commissioners that concludes our portion of the presentation if you'd like we can address questions now or introduce Chris
ham and Christine sure uh any questions for this portion of the presentation I do have one um the sheriff has been involved with ROM and has provided some Services as well as
Personnel in the past have we Quantified the value of that in any way shape or form we have not Quantified that I did uh contact the sheriff's office yesterday to understand their continued involvement and while they do have involvement on the board and a committee they no longer have staff involvement I
know uh they did have someone who was very involved with the Shel shelter for a period of time we can certainly follow up with them uh to get that information if you like great thank you very much all right any further questions see none um Mr chairman Comm Constantine well
that um the question that I would have uh based upon what the chairman just asked is you know the the the sheriff gives away um through captured dollars and assets charity money do we know how
much or if he has ever given to ROM I do know that good thank you uh we're not receiving funding through that mechanism from the Sheriff's Office uh historic the engagement has been with two key personnel one who serves on the board
and that's uh Chief sprigs and she serves has served on the finance committee uh most importantly and has been instrumental in helping to get the audits done so that fundraising could take place we were in a position
in 2020 when I came in that you couldn't actually raise funds based on the lack of audits uh that is all in the rearview mirror at this point the other one was a uh an officer who became the operations
person at the shelter and held it together during covid so from my perspective that was uh in order to facilitate keeping the doors open during that pandemic thank
you thank you anything else all right thank you m longsworth very much we may have some questions come up later and now Mr Chris ham from Rescue Outreach Mission good morning and welcome Mr ham good morning thank you Commissioners for the record my name is
Chris ham I'm the executive director of rescue Outreach Mission with me is Christine schaer who is our director of shelter Services before we start I want to share really the importance of this photo up here for you see every time we find a home for one of our guests we have a key
that gets placed on a wall as a reminder last year almost 250 keys were placed on the wall for the families that are finding permanent homes in just a moment you'll see how impressive that really is I think we all agree that no one
should be sleeping outside no one should be in their cars or tents and none of us want our great County to look like DC or California with large encampments as a reminder as you're aware but for the public rescue Outreach missions really like a hospital emergency room guests as
we call them come to us in crisis experience expc in trauma as they have nowhere else to go unlike other shelters in our area that remove guests during the day we remain a Solace 24 hours a day we also
operate in partnership with Emergency Management as an extreme weather shelter during extreme cold extreme heat and I don't want to say the HW that's coming upon us but we open those shelter doors
EXP anded capacity so our schools and other shelters don't have to be open unless they really must do but as funding remains tight we're starting to think about Alternatives what happens if there's no Rong what if we went to a different
model without our 24-hour service of care well over the course of the past year that would mean nearly 800 individuals who would be sleeping and spending time in our libraries and our malls our public parks and our private property I don't think any of us really
want that so there a couple options that are on the table we continue to fund rescue Outreach mission for about $38 a night per person I would never suggest this but in the Orlando Sentinel this morning city of Orlando decided to spend Millions on
two buses for people to sleep in a 6x6 square foot area at about $68 per night but still or $78 per night still removing people every morning to the street our jail space is operating at about $106 per night we can pay for hotel
rooms at a cost of upwards of $150 per night we can build tiny homes or entry-level apartments that are about 75,000 to upwards of 100 125,000 per unit I believe strongly that ROM is by far the most cost effective
way to address this issue and of that $38 we're anticipating 65 to 80% to be paid by non government sources you know I'm constantly amazed at where we have come in just a few short years I'm going to turn this over to Christine Schaefer
who's a director of shelter services to share a little bit more good morning so it's no secret that the number of people experiencing homelessness is on the rise 20% of our guests are seniors seeing expenses outpace the cost of living increases
from Social Security young families are going to debt as Rising costs are not being matched by increasing wages children account for 21% of our population at ROM for men women and children living on the edge life is not easy one unexpected expense like car
trouble a job loss medical bills can cause someone to lose their housing match that with the cost of moving in which is often more than $5,000 just to rent a two-bedroom apartment and you're in for The Perfect Storm
based on the numbers I've just provided you can see that our guests do not paint the picture of the stereotypical homeless person less than 8% of our guests are identifying as drug and alcohol users and an even smaller percentage of guests with severe mental health issues in the last few years we've taken
steps to greatly increase the number of people we serve in help you'll notice that since 2021 we've nearly doubled the number of people we serve to accomplish this we've worked hard on case management to quick L determine case plan goals and work towards housing we
become more efficient and de developed better techniques when serving our guests what I'm most proud of however is that we've more than tripled the number of people who were able to obtain permanent housing through our program we've done this by developing a network of organizations who exchange
information resources and give more options for our clients in and out of Shelter by utilizing Our Community Partners and resources that are already available in the county we can house guests faster reduce their length of homelessness and allow us to increase
the number of guests served at the shelter this also helps us prevent duplication of services within the county I'll turn it back over to Chris to discuss funding just like our operations we've worked hard over the last 3 years to increase non-government funding in some
pretty significant ways in many ways when I became the executive director we were a startup my donor database was a piece of paper with four names on it the good news is we're just three months into our fiscal year we start January 1st we're almost halfway to our
2025 fundraising goal just last week it was announced privately that we are approved for an anonymous Grant that's going to provide almost $300,000 to us this year alone most of our large fundraising does come
towards the end of our fiscal year which we end in December so we're grateful to be this far ahead at this point in time though we still have a projected fundraising gap between our expenses and our income now we hope this is going to
be overcome with additional private fundraising but as we all know costs are increasing and we're all a bit unsure about the economic conditions later this year right now you'll see we do have a bit of a reserve a little bit more than
six months now that's intentional on our part we don't know what the future is going to bring we don't have a long track record to show our cash flow with our increased demand for services we do believe that we're going to be able to use about 120,000 of our reserves for
operating expenses so we can remain in that 180 days of emergency reserves we hesit to gate to go lower because we don't want to come to you in desperation for a quick fix later on That's essential for cash flow as our income is
highly seasonal and to prepare if the worst happens and if non- Government funding is harder to come by because of a downturn in the economy that's why we're coming with an Ask above the 200,000 that you've already allocated in CSA funding for
this year we'd like up to an additional 280,000 in funding to support our services now our hope and our goal is that we can exceed our income projections to not utilize all that funding but it's most likely that we'll need some this year for the next year we'll budget an additional increase in
fundraising efforts for non-governmental funding in addition to the 200,000 of CSA we're going to ask for an additional um allocation now I'm hopeful we'll be able to continue to decrease Government funding I'm also hopeful that other
affected governments in Seal County will come to the table if you will to help us lower the County's support and we can use your help in that push Commissioners I hope our community understands the impact rescue Outreach Mission has here on seal County the way
that each of you have we're working diligently to tell the story we're leaving no stone unturned in this effort and your support is essential to our County's future thank
you any questions for Mr ham I do have one or two if you can go back a slide or two if you don't mind up come forward one so what's your total overhead about 1.4 million okay and
you've got 800,000 in unrestricted reserves mhm and you're if if I understood what you said January you already are halfway to your 2025 fundraising today we are our
fiscal year is January 1st through December 31st correct right we're almost at 400,000 okay due this large grant that I can't tell you who gave it to us yet we're hoping to announ it in a couple I understood okay
um okay I don't have any further questions commissioner her so if you stay on this slide for a minute I think what is attempting we're attempting to do here is oblige a couple of things maybe maybe five
things one is to M make sure that the county stays ahead of the new legislation with regard to folks sleeping on private property and that's very important this is probably the least expensive way we can do it in the
current iterations of homelessness being addressed in our County but the second is and this is exceptionally important is that the board our board board has heard loud and clear that we don't want to be surprised with an ask and I think commissioner delari said it very well in
the last presentation that Chris did we don't want any last minute surprises which is what happened in 19 it was before I got here so I can't really speak to that but um so the notion of maintaining 180 days of Reserve in an
organization that has had really no track record at understanding the cash flow in the organ organization given the ramp up and if you take that slide back to the ramp up in Revenue raised if you look at this ramp
up you can see that we don't have more than a Year's worth of any understanding of cash flow so the idea now if you go to that next slide again is that we would we would and I'm I'll use your
your term uh chairman sit on the Reserve to make sure that we're not coming back and if you take it to the ask slide we're not asking for the money we're asking for up to with the idea that we
may come back with no ask at all in either year we just don't know so the most important thing that I think this organization does is keep the doors open and keep them open at the current service levels which is critically important to getting folks into the Shel
shelter and moving them out of the shelter which we're doing rather effectively now and the last comment that I would make is that I'd be remiss if I didn't and this is an order of importance shout out to Christine who is there every day
getting folks into that shelter and through her team getting folks out of that shelter into stabilized housing our recidivism rate is pretty low that's due to the work that her team does and then Chris is out there so shout out to Chris
focused on fundraising with his team that does that anything else okay I I think this is uh something that's appropriate for our budget work sessions that are upcoming um for me I I would like a lot of data I would like to
see how many revisits meaning people that are cycling back through I would like to see where uh the best we can the majority of the impact is coming from throughout the county if it's a particular City or multiple
cities or unincorporated semal County um would be important to me and then you mentioned the uh drug abuse uh and alcohol abuse I'd like to have a clean understanding of how we're dealing with that separating that population or
getting them additional help to some of those those that are actually more focused on that um would be helpful for me when we get to that point commissioner Constantine thank you um Chris no one questions the the job and
and the and the passion that you and your staff bring to this and I very thankful that um you exist that you're there um but let me just ask a few questions the 800,000 that you have in
fundraising okay so we're we have already given half of what you've gotten so far and of the 800,000 if we gave another 200,000 so we'd be giving half of your fundraising activity so the real
fundraising would be potentially 400,000 am I correct it no it would be more than that okay that's why I'm trying to figure it out cuz then we would ramp up we would continue to raise at 800 and that would
take us over to the 1.2 1.4 yeah but but just just so we get a clear perspective the 400,000 that you've raised so far almost more than half has come from the county as of today but that will change
quickly in the next couple I hope so I hope so but that's what it the second question I had is in looking at the numbers and being interested in those you called them dignity buses I believe that that the city of Orlando
approved yesterday M I believe that you said they were millions of dollars from what I read it was 285,000 per bus let me let me just and they bought two buses so where is the additional
money that you're suggesting come from so for that that is the operating costs of $78 per night they've allocated according to or Lando Sentinel about $3 million to allocate about $500,000 per bus for 20 individuals per year and they
come in around 7:00 to 900 p.m. and then exit that next morning yes I I do understand the the process I was just surprised with the individual cost there cuz the the 200 85,000 is a fixed cost
correct obviously there's going to have to be repair and maintenance um what other services do you know and I I'm I'm interested because it's clear that you have looked into this and I'm thankful you have so what other costs are involved in that bus are they feeding
them and in on the bus or you how does that work no they're going to be parked downtown at the Christian Service Center or other locations so there's the fixed cost of an employee who's there or two employees one in each bus um there's the
gas cost the electricity costs and other costs associated with that and I would suspect its case management Etc yeah and that would then be done the next day at the service center or other places in downtown Orlando it's it's just good
thank you but it's it's just good that that you are monitoring that because you know we're all looking at potential successes and opportunities so thank you very much for that if if I could Mr chairman the just
to to tag on the the we the math is the straight math it's 500,000 divided 365 divided by 20 heads in the bet that's that's how that we got to the $68 $78 78 whatever the number was yeah
so the and we are we want to keep a a good monitor on it because if there's a less expensive alternative we need to be exploring it for sure or something that could work in conjunction with um and that's what I was looking at the mobility opportunity of you know not
everybody can come to Sanford and come to Ram there are you know other opportunities throughout the county and if that could be in conjunction with I'm not looking at either or I'm looking at agreed in conjunction
with Mr Glory thank you m thank you Mr chairman Chris thank you for president presentation I also want to thank uh Trisha and Carrie for their presentation as well very well presented uh as you know if you can go back through the timeline that our staff presented this
board is very well invested in rescue Outreach and the homeless it's not something that we've just started getting into it's been discussed not just at the board level but the community uh level and well as through leadership suit all I know we have a
couple members Maybe M here from leadership seminal and uh they've been very involved with this as well so uh I would like as you said Mr chairman uh take this up during the budget process uh the issues that we're going to be having with uh the budget coming up this
year uh when it comes to uh potential shortfalls as we discussed in our uh Retreat uh it it's imperative that we as well as the community understand the total uh View and lens of the budget as
we move into next year I would like to look at your entire budget instead of just having one sheet if you can present that to our staff I'd greatly appreciate it and can you also present with the budget you know comparison from you know the last year or so so we can actually
see what the trends are looking like and I also know that in talking to our County Manager I'm sorry he's not here today he's under the weather I did get a a text message from him that he's ill that's why Trisha Johnson's here a deputy and uh I know that our dep our County
manager is meeting with you on monthly I've been told by him in my briefings and so if there's any shortfalls uh please keep our County Manager involved as well as I know that our commissioner commissioner her will keep us involved as well so that there are no surprises and uh the worst thing
we want is anybody to uh be told at the last minute that we need x amount of dollars you know within you know the next week or so because we did have that happen to us that won't happen again commissioner you weren't here Chris neither was anyone on your board uh but
uh those types of surprises are not acceptable and with you meeting with the county manager as well as our County Commissioner on the board I know that that won't happen so I feel uh pretty contented from that perspective uh but you're correct Mr chairman I think this
is something we should be looking at in great depth and looking at it from a total budget perspective thank you and and I don't disagree I mean my concern was a couple months ago you all were here um we had already given you
$230,000 and then within a month or two I guess two and a half months to be fair three months we were being told if we didn't get $600,000 rom was going to have to close now here I look at you're telling me we have $800,000 and in in reserves uh and
fundraising is going fairly good so I think those numbers are going to be very very important um for us to see during the budget session uh for me it's it's about doing what we need to do for the homeless in this community um but it's
also about working with other entities to help get to that and clear that hurdle um and combining efforts in any way shape or form we can I know commissioner her sit on that Action Group uh uh uh that was before mentioned
up until 2020 which is now defunct um so I'm sure she has some awareness of that and how that all functioned as well but you know bringing those Charities together to do what's best for the most um I I think
is is really where the answer is to to all this instead of we got multiple Charities out there raising multiple monies for similar or complimentary service Services uh I think it would behoove us to uh have that discussion in
depth with all those folks and see who may be best served to do a certain portion or collaborate on a portion of it or do multiple fundraisers or joint fundraisers um there there's all kinds of ways to do this and ultimately to
address you know the the state statutes for the homeless and all that um you know we've adopted an ordinance and for me especially for the general fund dollars those are taxpayers dollars so
there may have to be a referendum go on the ballot to see what our citizens desire to do because it is their money and likewise it's tax dollars coming out of Tallahassee as well as coming out of uh DC just just for the belief that
those dollars are not tax dollars they are um so for me it's a lot of thought process but I think starting with the budget uh hearings and and really digging down to the finances will be helpful I am a little taken
back we're now in 2025 I was asked by the then chairman of this board commissioner Kerry in 2019 to go to ROM and help try to get things back up and going and it's been a very
slow process um and I know commissioner her has been there for a couple years there's there been audits attempted uh quasi perform back in 2020 2021 uh Miss Lisa sprigs from the Sheriff's Office was involved at that time uh but here we
are six years later and definitely better but the County's put $3.8 or $2.8 million of arpa money and other monies into this and we're not a whole lot further ahead other than we've got a nicer facility we've got got some
organization going on that's a lot of money over a short period of time to not be further ahead than what we are that's that's my concern commissioner in all honesty I don't even know what to say to that so let me offer
just some very from the heart commentary it's not been five or six years it was 2019 when the disaster was identified there was a p pandemic going on everyone was focused on the pandemic
not necessarily focused on Rescue Outreach Mission um arpa money was earmarked from the federal government to the states then to the counties for
homelessness and this is the only emergency homeless shelter in town so the notion that arpa money should not have been given and I realize you didn't say that but we take credit for the arpa money given as though that money was seino County taxpayer money it was
Federal taxpayer money and had we not used it for this we would have had a a bigger mess there were and I I don't know what happened with rescue Outreach Mission before 2020 which is when I was asked to
be on that board by at the time chairman uh Constantine but we were finding receipts in the ceiling tiles folks and that didn't happen under my watch that didn't happen under Chris's watch and it didn't happen under the reconstituted board's
watch during the pandemic we lost The Treasure of our board um due to covid it's a sudden death we had to recover from that we also housed people mult multiple times
um in conditions that were monitored by our EOC and we redeemed the only place they could go so as Co wrapped up we then secured a new executive director the audit process has been long
and arduous and I will tell you no one worked harder on it than Lisa sprigs and she deserves all the credit in the world but our audits are clean so I don't want anyone to walk away from this at this point thinking that the disappointment is related to a bad audit the audit was
clean uh so was last year's and we are already on track for next year so we've now turned this around in my time on the board which has been less than five years and are in a stable funding position and coming back to you and I
want you to move to that last slide Chris for me please and I just want to point out I do appreciate I think all this should be disc discuss in budget Workshop Chris was asked by our team to come back for a midyear budget ask that
is why he was here three months ago two months ago whenever it was and we were asked to bring it back again uh with and we gave you an update with the fundraising it is going well I don't know that we will need it we are just letting you know that to be discussed
but that first 280 is fiscal year 2024 25 budget not next Year's budget although we can still discuss it in the workshop that is the the the ask here is that if you want us to keep a reserve in place to make sure that there's no last
minute and as you say chairman regularly everything in government takes way too long it takes us too long to respond so if we want to debate whether or not six months is the right number should it be a different number that's probably a worthy conversation it takes us at least
3 months to get anything through this board and so if it goes south fast that's the thought process behind more than 90 days just so you know I think it's it's been an amazing progression my husband and I have been
donors to rescue Outreach mission for probably 25 years he was the first to find them in the county and it's in the best shape it's ever been okay any further comments questions thank you Mr ham sincerely appreciate anybody here from the public
wish to comment on this item no sir very good our next item up is item 23 reduction of lean [Music] request this will be presented by Alexis Valley code enforcement officer office
morning good morning for the record Alexis valali um clerk to the code enforcement office I'm presenting item number 23 which is a total a request for a total waiver of lean this code enforcement violation is
for trash and debris the request to reduce the lean is from a collective $57,000 $57,900 the current property owner brought the violation into compliance by removing the trash and debris from the
property the property was originally cited in March of 2012 for a violation of trash and debris on October 25th 2012 the con enforcement board issued a finding a fact requiring
compliance no longer no later than November 15 2012 there was a lean hearing held on January 24th 2013 and the board issued an order imposing a fine of 18,000 which will continue to occre at $250 per day until
brought into compliance the property was brought into compliance on June 6 2018 making the fine total $57,500 this table illustrates a financial summary of the case um The Daily fines
accured is represented here as that $57,500 total administrative costs $495 15 the total Lane amount is there the 2024 assessed value is right in the middle so you can compare that to
the lean amount in accordance with the administrative code as the deputy County Manager determined that the request did not fail any of the guidelines established by the administrative code the deputy County Manager reviewed the
request by evaluating the amount of lean as compared to the value of the property the amount of lean which totals $ 57,98811 confirmed that the trash and debris were removed from the property on June 6 2018
while the property owner while the property was in violation from 2012 to June 2018 the applicant states that she was not aware of the violation until 2024 well after the property was brought into compliance and lastly the amount of
staff time expended to bring the property in compliance a collective 11.75 hours of Staff time were expended on the C enforcement case the request for total waiver the applicant requests that the
board make an exception to its established guidelines and entirely wave the total amount secured of the lean for the following reasons One financial hardship the amount of the lean far exceeds the amount of the applicant's gross income the applicant provided
supporting documentation relative to her income and reports ongoing medical costs obligations medical hardship the applicant states that she has two permanent disabilities which limit her ability to perform both uh both perform day-to-day functions at home and to work
extra hours at her employment the applicant requested action the applicant requests that the board consider and make a final determination on the applicant's request for a total waiver of the lean to 0 and should the lean amount be reduced
authorize the chairman to execute a satisfaction of lean upon payment of the approved reducer amount if any that concludes my presentation thank you any questions for staff commissioner Constantine just to be clear the the
previous owner was cited back in 2012 they [Music] um then they the final judgment was a
lean of $188,000 in 2013 when did the when is the current owner when did they buy the property so the respondent of this case still owns the property so it's the same person it's the same person and they put
brought it into compliance in 2018 M the lean was from 2012 to 2018 um basically the previous clerk never submitted the Affidavit of compliance to official records to be
recorded So then in the year 2024 I went ahead and did that and sent the respondent a letter in the mail letting her know the total amount of the lean which is then why she requested the uh total waiver thank you and just for the record she is here if you have any additional
questions she's in the audience okay does the applicant wish to make any statements of the board yes sir ma'am please come forward yes sir good yes ma'am your name and address for the record my name is vernett Cole my
address is 2306 North beardall Avenue Sanford 32771 go ahead well as Alexa said I never received um a letter saying that you know I had
this this lean on my property or anything like that I always keep the property clean of debris except for just say when someone did live in the house and if I had to go in and throw everything out to the curb because I do know I have
that twice a year pickup service in my taxes I put everything to the road so I don't know if at that point in time did code enforcement go out there and see it then before it was picked up by the um waste management but I keep the yard cut
I don't have trees falling down or anything around it and so it blindsided me when I got this letter from her stating that I owed all this money and the yard is um on a monthly schedule of getting cut so any debris that would
have been in the yard from falling from the trees that's sorry around the property that would have been picked up as well so it just blindsided me like what happened you know I because I wasn't getting any um correspondents
telling me I had done anything wrong so like I and I know I definitely can't afford the amount that the letter is saying sure as if I can afford that I wouldn't be in that Community sorry for that so so the question I have is we
heard the presentation that you weren't alerted until 2024 of of how this had all manifested but the original dated back to 2012 do do you recall any interaction back in 2012 with code enforcement or
violation being posted or notification at all no sir honestly I did not I didn't know anything whatsoever and I'm not standing here trying to tell you a lot about anything and my mailing address has always well not since I own
the property but as of 20 21 I always live around the corner from the property so and my mail comes to my address so I why didn't I get any mail you know certified cuz just like when I received her letter
I responded to it right away so it's like I'm there I don't know if they sent mail to that actual address which should have never been on file for address for me cuz I never had a key you know to go into it so I don't know what happened okay any other questions from the
board thank you ma'am thank you so my question is for staff on the 20 the original violation I I caught the part about previous clerk didn't file the
proper paperwork in 2018 and you did it in 2024 but back in 2012 2013 I think what I'm hearing from the the applicant and the owner is she had no knowledge at all any of this was going on even back to 2012 do we have
anything that supports otherwise so in the beginning when the case was originally cited we did use the property Appraiser for citing for the mailing address so it was the
2306 Beall Avenue originally that first meeting it was posted but after that original findings of fact was issued there was certified mail received um signed which in past conversations we
determined it was the daughter of the respondent that signed for the green cards okay so all notification from that first findings of fact was signed okay was there ever a hearing the findings of fact that would
be that original first meeting okay and the magistrate oversaw this was the code enforcement board at the time yeah okay all right thank you very much okay any other questions or inquiry staff for the app this commissioner her's District
commissioner her yes uh I move that we reduce the lean to the administrative expenses only which is $495 15 second any further discussion um yeah just just one thing and that
I I'm in support of the motion but I do believe in discussions with Christian um that again we talk about this all the time but I'm going to repeat it again that we have to do something with the
administrative cost there's no way that 12 years or 13 years of going back and forth 11 and a half or 11.75 hours which does not include the
time to get there and the time to come back um and all the paperwork that was sent is um is $495 there's just no way that I can ever imagine that but I I support this motion
today based upon what we have um what we how we calculate and and I don't disagree I mean i' I've asked that question numerous times think we all um and I've been told statutorily we're limited on a certain amount we can
charge for admin fees on an hourly or whatever County attorney May address that again if you would yes I just wanted to let the board know that we are limited in certain by case law and attorney general opinions to only charging certain things to administrative costs however my office
is going to work with the county manager's office as we continue to go through this entire code enforcement process there are ways that we could be more efficient and capturing some of these administrative costs so please be reassured that we are looking at this and we do hear your concerns great and and I had given a model I think to the
county manager that included gasoline the car C everything with the code enforcement office of the time they roll and get there and go back and visit and all that so those were all the questions I had for for five years
almost so okay and since we can't I'm sorry but I just want to say and since we can't go back it it seemed that every single time they went there they said it was 15 minutes um you know you know there was no there was no discre it was
15 minutes so think about that when you're talking about 11.75 hours how many times they went out there great I want to make sure there's nobody here from the public to speak on this matter no sir okay we'll close
public comment we have a motion a second all those in favor I I oppose like sign see none carries unanimous thank you folks for being here today next item is item number 24 the fiscal year 2425 Grant and project carry forward
budget amendment resolution Mr Tim JX management and budget director will present this item morning Commissioners I'm Timothy JX with the Office of Management and budget item number 24 is our annual Grant and project carry forward bar this
item was advertised in the Orlando Sentinel on March 20th this is a budget amendment that will carry forward available balances of approved projects from last fiscal year 24 and reappropriate them in the current fiscal year 25 there are backup reports for this item
including a one-page summary as well as a list of every project being carried forward starting on page 739 of your agenda the FY 24 final budget included a total of 896 projects that fall under the category shown here of that 291
projects were completed and 605 are being carried forward of the closed projects $15.1 million is being returned to fund Reserves this bar is balanced on the revenue side we have 548
m126 662 of that $9.7 million is dedicated grant funding and $457 million is assigned fund balances which are revenues collected in a PRI prior year and assigned to board approved projects
and are not part of our available reserve on the expenditure side you see our 90.7 million in Grant carry forward which incl includes 23 million in Community Services Grants 12.6 million in water utility grants including our septic to sewer program $21 million in
public works grants including our Midway drainage project and $15 million in projects under the American Rescue plan act moving to the left you see carrying forward $88 million in bond funding which was issued for the core phase of our Five Points development project these remaining funds are primarily
associated with a renovation of the Criminal Justice Center next we have $181 million carried forward for 143 ongoing active projects in our sales tax program then we have our water utility and solid waste Capital programs where
we're carrying forward $96 million across 130 projects in the fire department we're carrying forward $42 million related to new fire stations station Renovations and Fleet Replacements then we have $24.5 million in projects from other restricted funds
including our building fund Transportation trust and 911 funds and finally we're carrying forward $9.4 million in general funded projects primarily associated with our seminal County Sheriff's Office and our facilities Department that concludes my
presentation staff's here to answer any questions thank you very much any questions for staff seeing none anybody hear from the public desire to speak on this item no sir seeing none we'll close public comment M chairman make a motion to move
to approve the request in motion second a second any further discussion all those in favor iose light sign carries unanimously thank you Mr jackon thank you sincerely appreciate it all right anything else for the good of
the order before we take our midday recess seeing none we'll stay in recess until 1:30 p.m. thank you all very much [Music] Part: 2
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good afternoon everyone and welcome to the afternoon session of the board of County Commission Mission meeting here in Seal County the date is March 25th 2025 we are going to move on to our public hearing agenda I will uh remind
everyone if you're here to speak on on any of these matters today make sure you get a speaker form out in the lobby fill that out bring it down and hand it to the clerk here and make sure that she has it so when it comes time to speak on an item that we can call you up all
right I will go to the board look for proof of public application so moved second motion a second all those in favor I carries unanimous uh expar any commissioner receive any expar if so disclose and how
it was submitted it along it has been submitted electronically mine has been submitted electronically as well Mr chairman I have items on uh 26 27 that I have here and I'll submit to the court very good mine was passed along
electronically uh unfortunately the county manager and commissioner lockart will not be with us today they are feeling under the weather and not up to speed to be able to attend so we're look forward to their return at the next meeting the quasa judicial hearing rules
will be read into the record by Miss Kate Lor the County Attorney thank you Mr chairman while the board welcomes comments from all persons with an interest in these proceedings Florida law required that the board's decision in quasi judicial actions be supported by competent substantial
evidence presented to the board during the hearings on the applications competent substantial evidence is such evidence as a reasonable mind would accept as adequate to support a conclusion there must be a factual basis in the record to support opinion testimony from both expert and non-expert Witnesses persons presenting
testimony May rely on factual information that they present information presented by County staff information the applicant presented or on factual information included in the county staff report to support their testimony all persons who Present written materials to the board for
consideration must ensure that a copy of such materials is provided to the clerk for inclusion in the board's record of the proceedings and the official minutes Mr chairman thank you Mr Lor first first item up is item 25 lockheart subdivision
partial alley RightWay vacate this will be presented by Miss Caitlyn apar our staff will present the application to the board we will then go to the applicant to see if they have anything that they want to address with the board then we'll go to public input we will
then close public input and go for rebuttal to the applicant if they desire us to do so miss abgar good afternoon Caitlyn afgar planning and development services the applicant Kevin Merlot has petitioned seol County to vacate and
abandoned an unnamed unimproved portion of the public right of way in the lockart subdivision the subject right of way is ploted as a 15t wide Alleyway in the lockart subdivision which was ploted in 1924 the alley exists between 2415 West
18th Street in a portion of lot 9 block one of Lockard subdivision 2415 West 18th Street contains a portion of flatted lots 10 11 and 12 the railroad takes up the other portion of the platted Lots 10 11 and 12 the applicant is the owner of this
property as well as the other portion of lot n on the other side of the alley the requested portion of RightWay to be vacated would unite unite that portion of lot n n with Those portions of Lot 10 11 and 12 the highlighted portion on the slide indicates that area to be
vacated the proposed subject area to be vacated is 85 6 67 ft on one side 115.7 ft on the other side and 15 ft wide with an overall area of 1, 156.25
Ft the unconstructed alleyway would not meet minimum County standards for right of way WID or roadway WID the vacate requested originated as a code violation from June 27th 2024 due to the gate structures being installed in the alley as well as the encroachment of the AC
pad the applicant has provided letters of no objection from all applicable utility companies and Public Works has no objection to the requested RightWay vacate the request complies with the requirements for vacating of RightWay
under Section 35.1 184 of the seal County Land Development code and the authority of Florida statute 33609 staff request the board of County Commissioners adopt the resolution vacating and abandoning an unnamed unapproved portion of the public right
of way and the lock card subdivision thank you any questions for staff I do have uh two has the uh gate and AC been removed from the RightWay it is my belief it has not I
think it's contingent upon um this being approved or denied okay thank you very much is the applicant here and wish to address the board here he is here if you'd like to come forward if if you'd like to address the board if not you're fine no you want to address the
board I'm sorry hold on okay [Music] okay if we can get the portable microphone for this gentleman I really don't need it I got a deep enough voice and I speak pretty loudly
okay your name and name and address for the record please Kevin merilot 2415 West 18th Street um I wouldn't even aware this alley existed uh I've lived there for 25 20
almost 26 years and I wasn't even aware this alley existed until it was brought to my attention a few months ago um didn't know about it I had no clue I I'd like to see it gone because I
own property on both sides of it and I'd like to have them join together as one property very good thank you sir any any questions for the applicant before he gets too far away seeing none thank
you he moves pretty quicker than he thinks all right do we have U anyone here from the public wish to speak on this item no sir seeing none we'll close public input and go to board action this is commissioner hers District yes
Commissioners I move that we adopt the resolution vacating and abandoning a portion of an unnamed undeveloped right away in the laart subdivision as recorded in plat book 3 page 70 of the public records of seal County Florida for the property located on the south side of 18th Street West of Southwest
Road more particularly known as 2 415 West 18th Street Sanford Florida second motion second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor I oppose like sign carries
unanimously thank you all very much next item up is item 26 Panther Street RightWay vacate this also be presented by Miss Caitlyn appar Mr chairman if I may before staff presents uh as you all know I wasn't
present for the uh February 25th public hearing on this matter uh which is continued here today uh I do want to state that I did fully watch the uh the meeting online and uh inter the whole meeting
and I uh would like to uh ask the uh County attorney uh because I watch the entire meeting online I haven't had any conversation with any of my fellow Commissioners about it and I just want to make sure do we have to repeat anything or can we just pick it up where they left off no thank you for stating
that for the record because this is a continued hearing and you have watched the meeting that occurred a month ago you have all the same information that your fellow board members do just wanted to get that clear put on a record before we actually started any further discussion thank you thank you
commissioner Miss abgar um with that being said um Caitlyn avgar Planning Development Services again um with that being said I can represent this if you would like um I'm more than happy to if you want it's the same presentation with the same
recommendation and the same the same data as before this is a continuance unless my fellow Commissioners want to hear it present it again I think we've we've heard it but I'll leave that up to my colleagues does anybody have a desire for staff to go back through
it seeing none okay then we won't need it I do stand by if there's additional information sure but go ahead um I do have additional letters um support and opposition that were sent out um from
yesterday late yesterday and this morning um I do have a copy for everybody and one for the record please distribute those thank you I did receive some as well yesterday I don't know if this is the entirety of them but
thank you commissioner Vice chair thank you over okay miss sgard you have anything additional to add no sir thank you thank you very much uh is the applicant here
and wish to make any statements or presentation name and address for the record please sir good afternoon Philip CAO I'm the attorney for the lewises my address is 5200 South US Highway 1792 suet 1000 Castlebury Florida
32707 um in as much as we continued the hearing or you all continued the hearing because you were at a 22 vote um previously and I believe the two were uh in favor was commiss chairman zauer and commissioner lockart and the two opposed were commissioner her and commissioner
Constantine um unless the commission is inclined to I don't know it's a County Attorney question unless unless the last vote stands with just commissioner delari adding his vote which I don't think it does um I would ask that you all continue until you have a full body full body of
so that you can fully vet and and make a final determination I know that would require an additional continuance um but that would seem to me to be the only fair way to have a final resolution so your request is a continuance until we can seeed an entire full board that is
correct okay anything else that's if if if they're not going to entertain that then I have then I would obviously make a presentation of course sure so the the request is for continuance I believe we should take that up first is that correct yes and I
would ask that we that your request specify what date you'd like it continued to um the earliest possible date which I believe would be April 8th is or April 2nd which is the next date I I believe it's April April 8th yes thank
you correct okay um well I'm the district commissioner I I have no problem for continuant to see a full board on the 8th um but we'll uh we'll take some public input on the
continuance only uh and then we will uh give it to the board and let the board make a decision okay fair enough as long as you recall me if I have to make a presentation absolutely we certainly will thank you very much we don't want to short anybody Mr chair commissioner I
believe that this um request is outside of our agreed to um uh procedure to ask for continuance is that not correct Madam attorney the board's policies and procedures require that an applicant's
request for continuance be submitted at least 48 hours in advance that is correct thank you so since this is out I'm not inclined to say no but what I am inclined to do is that since the residents have come here in full not in
full knowledge that that Mr Capo was going to ask for a continuance that they be allowed a leeway to speak on whatever they want you to speak as far as on the merits of the vacay so I don't necessarily have a problem with that but
remember if we were hearing this today we've already heard the input from many of these folks that are here today we are to hear any new information and if we are going to have a continuance have a discussion about
continuance from the input from the public absolutely talk chairman absolutely talk about the continuance um and if there is any new information I think we should be able to hear that from the consti also okay fair enough may I address yes Mr cap and you too Mr
cap very briefly just wanted to make sure everyone was aware I did make sure that the primary neighboring owner of the property who I believe is here today uh Mr Bazi was made aware he was copied on all the communications so he was aware that I was going to be requesting a continuance it what should be no
surprise to the board um I I did send notification earlier and insured to copy him um and so and as far as the 48 hours I had no way of knowing there wouldn't be a full board today and uh so otherwise I would have made the request Center understood no I get that nobody
predicted that we'd have a county manager and a commissioner out sick today I found out earli this morning before I arrived so with that said we will go to uh public input let's call them up one at the time
time and if you would State whether they are in favor or in opposition and when you all come up if you'd state your name and address for the record we're not here to hear the same thing we heard last time if you have something new to add and you spoke last
time please do that and speak about the continuation whether you're in favor of continuing or not in favor of continuing so let's call the first name please terara Meritt in opposition Miss Meritt thank you I'm Tara Merritt I live at
1580 Panther Street if this is only specific to a continuance uh I respectfully mention does my time start for the continuous portion do I get a separate time for my statement three minutes okay um I don't think we should continue There was a
commissioner missing last time and the attorney was okay with us moving forward um also Mr presidi last time at a major medical event and asked for continuance as was was not granted that the attorney still pushed for you all to discuss this matter and now all of a sudden
respectfully there's one missing and now he's okay moving forward on those two instances um but my new information is is that I live there since 2011 it's my second time appearing on our behalf and our position is still to deny this request what I didn't share at the last
meeting is I've spent 20 plus years in the real estate with the majority of that in real estate Title Insurance there was a time in my career I obtained and held my title insurance license with the state of Florida and was appointed by Title Insurance Underwriters to issue and sign title commitments and policies
over my career I have witness boundary disputes I share this because I want to convey I understand exactly what is going on here so do my surrounding neighbors who have come before you against this we know that this is not an equal exchange the applicants erected
structures without permits or using a survey therefore taking over the County's rideway preventing Community Access and encroaching on neighboring properties the applicants applied for this ride of way vacate after pending litigation and in an effort to leave everything as is it sets a bad example
for our community to reward this behavior and sets precedence for future residents to repeat when a rideway is vacated it must benefit the community I don't see how this benefits our community it only benefits the applic an a yes vote means awarding approximately
0.4 Acres of County Land for free to the applicants who fenced off whatever they wanted without regard and respect for the county neighboring properties and environment once made aware of their egregious actions instead of removing or relocating their encroachments on element Panther streets they applied for
this RightWay vacate in closing we hope you deny because it's not an equal exchange it does not benefit our community and these actions should not be condoned in our County thank you thank you next speaker please Michael
prudi in opposition Mr prudi better use the overhead projector I'm Michael purui I reside at 980 ym Street and everything's falling here 980 ym Street noo Florida 32765 I am the property immediately to
the South of this Panther Street fate last week I addressed to each of you an email identifying an explaining in detail how the vacate of Panther Street will adversely affect my private property rights possibly causing Simo
County to incur sizable damages please pay special attention to that email yesterday I filed my own application to vacate Panther street that applic ation is 25-9
00003 and it is only intended to help clarify the choice that you as Commissioners can make on a vacated of Panther Street the choice be because at the last hearing I showed you where we have multiple encroachments by Lewis we
have multiple uh uh breaches of the piece where Lewis's actually picked up and threw away uh um surveyor Flags threatened their surveyors with bodily harm if they would continue their s
survey we had to have a court intervention on that your authority to vacate Panther Street should be done only specifically with a public benefit there is no public benefit to switching off a
fee simple right away for a uh a drain easement those are two different totally different things and as we have here we see that the drainage easement is going to cost the county money when you go to
use it not only that with me fing for this vate yesterday I discovered that the applicant receives notice that a drainage easement is not proper from the county should you have any improvements
on that property and this is exactly what Lewis has done we need to have it finalized we we started in January with a unanimous vote to deny the petition please today four Commissioners let's
have a unanimous vote again to deny the uh uh um Lewis petition to vacate now to make it clear I did file a petition to vacate the exact same property only in
contradiction to Lewis's it is my intent to my interest and is my desire that you not vacate Panther Street Panther Street needs to stay there for numerous reasons for us residents so please deny that uh
vacate get the lewises to remove all of the obstructions they have on Panther Street and denying the general public from accessing Panther Street thank you thank you Mr presi goodbye thank you thank
you oh I did have next speaker please okay Alicia pudi in opposition Miss pudi hello welcome good afternoon if you'd pull the mic down closer to you so we can hear everything is there a possibility I could put this up sure
absolutely if you get assist Mr P thank you so the red is going to be the oh I'm sorry Alicia purui 980 Elm Street Ovito Florida 32765 and remember try let's try to keep this to the continuance not what we've
already heard pre previous hearings I don't think you've heard this first of all and second of all I am against the continuent okay being that this is our third time we've taking off work and come down but real quick let me just show the red is the row and where you see the
green that is all the neighbors that of opposition and you can see they all work around that row we are the ones closest to it this would be the third time you're hearing from me and in fact the third time you'll be hearing from each and every neighbor that is a affected by the
ls's row vacate if you look at my attached picture it marks in green every neighbor who has taken their time to come here to speak with you the red mark is the Lewis and the public road that is being considered every single neighbor that surrounds this vacate has voiced her opposition to granting it this has
affected residents getting involved in voicing their concerns public comment is how you can tell what the locals want by and large and in an overwhelming capacity us local do not want this road vacated we ask that you listen to us
local residents as we are the ones who are intimately known to the issues at stake in the situation surrounding this petition we are the ones who are currently are and will be directly affected by the actions You all take
today we all voted this Commission in with the promise of protecting the wetlands on the rural boundary and we ask that you do not reward anybody who are active destroying it Polie Commissioners defer to every single person here today and in the past who
has asked you to deny this petition trust us your constituents and vote no on this item that's it thank you thank you Miss presi we need to have that left with us sure to enter you got a copy great yes
thank you just want to make sure we had a copy next person please Richard Robertson in opposition did you say Robertson yes Mr Robertson my name is Richard Robertson
I'm in 971 Elm Street Florida 328 32765 and my position on this is I'm not in favor of spending any more of the taxpayers money and basically I support
preventive spending and that's all I have to say thank you sir thank you next individual please Jeff Peterson in opposition Mr Peterson good afternoon everybody Jeff
Peterson 998 El Street oo and also in opposition of the land Grand and would not like to see it continued um I think it's extremely irresponsible to G giving up government owned wetlands and the possible solution to our flooding problems just because
someone applies and asks for it the situation seems to be a nut negative for all of our citizens it cost nothing to keep it yet can cost us all a lot in the future if you give it up this grant to vacate this petition from what I have seen it uh seems all of the neighbors
are in agreement of not wanting this road vacated if the community is against that I think it would be proper to follow their request to you I think there is certainly a danger that long before um everyone next to a row will be applying to get their land vacated in
overwhelming simal County with request for free land I think you should establish a baseline of how why and when to vacate and should uh be granted so this does not already happen I know of some folks around me that thinking applying one based on what they're seeing now and this could turn into a
nightmare uh for discontinued roads and privately owned ditches so we don't want this thank you thank you anyone else no sir anyone else here to speak on this matter seeing none we'll close public
input well since we've heard all that does the applicant wish to make any statements regarding the information that was just presented i' actually Reserve comment until after the issue of a continuance is taken up yes fair enough all right we will go to
board action this is my district I would uh move a motion for continuance to sit when we have a full board I think that's the April 8th pending catastrophic events Unknown People not being here whatever the case might be so that's my
motion second motion second further discussion seeing none all those in favor I I opposed like sign No 2 two all right anybody want to make another
motion motion fails and and let me just say this before we get on the motion we just heard a right away vacate literally just before this we heard that there's Gates and air conditioning in the RightWay way I heard during the last hearing that was a
problem why this one shouldn't be vacated I've heard from staff that this is wetlands and there will never be any need for this property to be utilized for drainage although we're going to reserve a drainage
easement so whether we were to vacate it now or not the county still has the right to use this property for drainage and I'm told it will never be a road as it was initially intended to be because it's
wetlands and if staff if that's not correct Mr slot please correct me is that correct yes um yes Mr chairman for the record uh Mr slot is identifying and acknowledging your
statement yes Mr chairman the difference in my opinion is that one property on both sides was owned by the same person um and yes they put things in the right of way but though but that in the right
of way was something that if it was not approved we would have had him take out in this case this there are neighbors that live all around this property that are concerned about not only what was
built inside the right of way but also have taken this to court my concern is not about you know the right of way per se as much as this is a court action this is a potential that we also had a
study regardless of whether um we say it's not going to be used or can be used or will be used the fact of the matter is we don't know yet for sure and the fact also is is that um there is things in the right of way and if we get Grant
this right of way it could be built into the right of way and then unfortunately we would have to pay for the replacement if we ever or or the fixing or the dismantling if we had ever paid it I am more than happy in in absence of a
lawsuit which whether or not people say lawyers you know say it is or is not you know U subject to the right of way the fact of the matter is if we Grant this property now it'll Prejudice prejudicial
uh I believe it would be a Prejudice within the context of the lawsuit and therefore I'm happy to make a motion that we postpone this until after the lawsuit has been concluded so a question
on that what can I you I mean I made a motion if there's no second we move a proposal so you want to turn that into a mo no I made a motion I I said a motion I will make a motion okay if no there's no second fine there second okay that's
fine I just said that's what I would do her had her hand raised thank you uh there is a piece of new information with regard to this uh Mr pudi has filed
a new Motion in the existing lawsuit to uh for an emergency motion to stop interference with the court jurisdiction and so he's going to court to ask them to stop
us from moving forward with this and it was filed recently and there's some some interesting statements in here and I actually would like to read them to you
please give me a minute the property on the other side of Elm Street and panther Street was subdivided in 1914 uh simple RightWay dedicated as Elm Street and panther Street in the future when my property which is the 33 Acres
is subdivided an additional 25t wide simple free RightWay will be added to the Elm Street and panther Street thereby giving both streets 50 ft wide so the intention here is to subdivide the 33 Acres and The Angst is around
that 25 ft being used as an entrance way if the defendant is permitted to vacate the panther Street PL plaintiff's property rights will be irreparably damaged by not having Panther Street as a 50 foot wide RightWay accessing the plan of's future
subdivision I hope that the neighbors understood that they're opposing this for a future subdivision for the road to be cut through to access by the way the road is not necessarily needed to access because it's got access points all the
way around it m so quite honestly this the intentions here are different than have been stated on the record correct and it's in writing by the plaintiff's attorney who happens to be
the plaintiff and and and to your point I think that's the conversation I asked staff to clarify at one of the hearings was would this abatement impact the other property owners's ability to access their property in the
future if it was subdivided as it's eligible to be subdivided under the current land use policy and the answer I received was no there is access excuse me access from other areas um so I I will go to the county attorney um I'm
not going to play attorney so I'm going to ask you all to not withstanding the legal action that is a civil matter between these two Property Owners does that change the ability of the county to make a decision on whether we abandon a right away or an
easement Mr chairman are you asking about the new filing that commissioner her referenced no just the lawsuit generally correct no for my review of the lawsuit as it stands today it does not affect the board's ability to move forward with this request and I did share this with the
county attorney and I believe the County Attorney has said that this does not interfere with our ability to make a decision either correct correct chairman there may be one more thing that may be remain to the situation cuz there was one more item um
if I could please there was one more item that was brought up that was new and that was Mr pudi's application for a vacation of the panther Street rideway the way that rideway vacations work when they're platted is that if the right of
way is on the edge of a plat the entirety of that road right of way the underlying the easement essentially the reverter claim or the easement the county has over it goes away and that the entirety of that right of way that 25 ft would go to the lewises if it or
if it if it is vacated so he's made a request but he won't get he's not authorized in this case to get any property from that because his property was not part of the original plot so um there's no ability for him to now this
were a right of way done not by plat in a different way by you know a grant or something like that um it would be different but in this case he has no rights to that underlying fee right I I read the letter his letter sent to us which I forwarded to the clerk that was
my understanding from a previous inquiry I had with staff on this particular plat um and that's so thank you for for clarifying that very much okay any other questions for staff or attorneys I will be looking for additional
motion last motion failed does that not put us in the position where we simply need to hear the argument there was a request for an extension it failed failing any other new ideas Mr
CAO please come up we'll give you some rebuttal time thank you Commissioners um well I think much of what uh I would say has already been Unearthed the prod the pudi's true intentions have revealed themselves through the what was
identified as an emergency motion the court determined it was not an emergency which is why it hasn't been heard yet um also notably the county has not been named in that lawsuit the county is not a party to that lawsuit and so there's there's no jurisdiction for the court to
direct this commission what they can and can't do absent them being a party to the lawsuit and I I'm not your attorney but I'm pretty sure your county attorney would would would agree with that position um what we're talking about here is land that was originally part of the plant as Miss Bor borker that's
correct thank you just said so effectively that land would have been part of the lewises had it not been originally given back to the county and they're simply asking for have it back because it's not going to be used by the county to the extent that the county might use it for an easement or for drain for for drainage or for utilities
they're happy to provide that they're even happy to provide a provision in the in the uh resolution if if you all would entertain it that they would be responsible should there ever be anything in that easement area in the way of a structure that they are prepared to be the ones financially
responsible for removing and replacing and and and doing whatever they need to do to undo whatever is there parenthetically there's all this conversation about how a garage is in the right of way the garage is not in the right of way the garage is next to the right of way it abuts the right of
way but currently the only there there is nothing in that right of way in the way of a structure there's a fence and a gate that's been there for 20 plus years that all of the neighbors have seen never had a problem with so realistically I understand that that the
neighbors are all providing their position but I don't think they have all the underlying facts and I I don't I don't think that they have all of the underlying knowledge of what specifically is being asked for here I think they're hearing one side and supporting one neighbor over another and that happen but that's not that should
not form the basis of a decision by the by the commission Mr chairman can I ke a question certainly Mr kaer you entertain a question from the Das you just stated that your your uh the applicant
applicant would be willing to add a clause that if we did Grant the vacated the RightWay and just have a stor water easement that any structure on that property if needed for storm water they'd be willing to pay to remove that
structure 100% that's correct any other inquiries I just wanted to point out that there's the the applicant has already executed a drainage easement in favor of the county which agrees to not put anything in the easement area that would interfere with the County's
drainage rights while the express language of reimbursement is is not in there you know that is their commitment to not impede the drainage easement with any sort of structure that wouldn't allow the county to put whatever drainage improvements in there it needed and we would have an enforcable document
to turn to if that were to be breached that was my understanding so thank you for that commissioner her well and I think the new language that's been suggested actually doesn't go as far as that language goes that says don't build
anything what we said was if you build if you build anything you'll move it I would rather have it this language and add the reimbursement language to it if we go down that path which I don't I don't disagree with the applicant would be fine with that as
well any other inquiries of Mr CAO the applicant seeing none the last point I would make is Mr mudi apparently filed an application for vacating the same right of away so regardless of what he said said here today he seems to be looking for the same thing the louises are looking for which is a vacation of
the right of way thank you thank you thank you very much well I'll will move for a motion to uh Grant the RightWay with the additional language uh that indicates that the owner shall incur all
costs of any removal of any structure or any improvements that are placed there by that owner should the County have a need to use that for drainage easement I'll second that with an adjustment removal and replacement they don't just pay to
remove it we're not planning to put anything back that goes there that's fair Mr chairman a motion and second comment yes in Our Last Retreat I um suggested that I really had
a concern about the chairman making motions even in their own district and and I would be happy to make that motion if if um was the one that he wanted to make um I I you know and I would prefer
if you will that you allow you know I I am I was opposed to this and I got to tell you that what commissioner her just read and the fact that they are willing to do what I have from the beginning had
a concern about I would be I I I think that now now we have come to a POS and that our attorney has said that there is no relevance to the lawsuit that would infect affect us or um or you the
neighbors you know trying to um uh their concern about the lawsuit their their rights in the lawsuit I would be happy to now make that motion that you just made if you would allow me to do so so
um first of all I'm happy for you to be able to make that motion I have no problem with that at all we we've had this debate the county which one the count which one the County's rules and admin
code do allow and permit the chair to make a motion so I know you don't like that but but I'm happy in interest of time in moving this this along I'm happy to make the retract my motion and ask
commissioner mon Constantine to make the motion and I will move that motion if commissioner her will make the second I will second it even when you make the motion commission are you going to make the motion commission I already did yes I move I moved that motion I second it all
right I'll call the question though how about that any further discussion all those in favor I oppos like sign carries unanimous thank you all very much next item up is item number 27
seminal Science school expansion small scale future land use map amendment in PD reone this applicant is requesting a continuance from the March 25th BCC meeting to the April 22nd BCC meeting Miss Annie silway will be the
presenter good afternoon um Annie silway senior planer development services um the applicant initially requested a continuance from the March 25th BCC meeting to the April 22nd BCC meeting however the applicant has requested to
continue the May 13th BCC meeting um in accordance with Section 2.85 of the administrative code the applicant submitted in writing as required and requests for continuances are not automatically granted and the applicant or their representative is required to attend
the meeting at which the public hearing or agenda item is scheduled and must be prepared for the board to review and act upon the item and the applicant is here today thank you very much if the applicant would come forward please welcome Mr
Spain hey chairman thank you fellow Commissioners Brent Spain theak and Spain 1809 Edgewater Drive Orlando Florida and as Miss silway indicated we originally had asked for a continuance till the April 22nd meeting and that was
to allow time for us to have that follow-up uh neighborhood meeting that the commission asked us to do we had facilitated that the week after the meeting in February we waited several weeks to get dates from the Lake Mary
Woods Home Owners Association they ended up proposing March 17th 18th and 19th so we had had a meeting scheduled for March 19th which would have been cutting it really close to make the agenda packet with any revisions to the development
order and then the Lake Mary Woods HOA I guess had overlooked that that was during spring break so they ended up asking us to reschedule it so we have accommodated that in fact the meeting is this evening at 6:30 which then allows
us time Miss silway had indicated the her internal deadline for agenda packets is April 4th so to make the May 13th meeting so that's what's driving from going from April 22nd to May 13th okay any questions for the applicant seeing
none all right sir thank you very much we'll call you through btle if needed anyone here from the public to speak on this item no sir see none we'll close public input this is commissioner Lockhart's uh District would anybody care to make a motion Mr chairman I will
move that we postpone both 28 and 20 or is 27 and 28 to a Time certain of May 13th second second motion second any further discussion seeing none all those in favor I I oppose like sign carries
unanimous thank you all very much next we will move to the county attorney's report Miss Lor Mr chairman I have one request of the board to make this afternoon um I am seeking authorization to initiate litigation against Benchmark Construction Company LLC Liberty Mutual
insurance company and mg underground LLC this is in relation to a 2022 contract the county entered into with the parties for the country club Heights sewer and water M replacement project um you may recall that um after several lengthy
delays in the project and deficient work the county the board excuse me approved termination of the contract in November of 2024 since November County staff and my office have been working with the shity company and the contractors attempting to reach a resolution and to
exercise our rights under the performance bond unfortunately we've made very little progress and I think it's the the time to initiate litigation and so I'm looking for a motion approving same I'll be happy to make that motion second motion second all
those in favor I I oppos like sign seeing none you have your direction ma'am thank you and that concludes my report oh okay great next up County manager's report any staff presentations yes sir I have only one item for you and
that is an uh update with respect to fluoride and I've actually asked our assistant County Manager Christian swansson to provide that okay Mr Swinson Christian snon assistant County Manager um I believe as most of you know that uh the state uh State Surgeon General had
changed their opinion on the use of fluoride in water and the health effects of that and there's also a bill making its way through the lake legislature to also regulate that as a result of the uh that changes and also Communications that the County's receiving we would
like to bring back a an update to you at the April 8th meeting on fluide and discuss the topic okay any questions for staff nope so you want to bring it back on April 8th yes sir I'm okay with
that fabulous thank you Mr Dori question Constantine y okay with that we'll wait for the eth okay well you got your direction all I was going to say is why not wait for the uh for the legislature um but uh if you all want to hear it
okay fair enough okay anything else from the county manager's office nothing else thank you I'm sorry apologize I she had a milk D way what the update is on the bill you requested
okay watching for that all right well now we'll go to District commissioner reports commissioner her District 5 I will be brief uh I attended on the 14th of March the women saving the vote that was their title not ours but it was held
by Tiger Bay and our new uh supervisor of elections did a wonderful job they hosted it was Lake County P County Orange County seal County all four are women that are now
uh supervisor of elections it was it was a very nicely done by Tiger Bay uh on the good news front I will continue with that I attended the Interfaith ifar in in March and that was an an amazing event uh happy to have
been there on a different note uh caban alive has started up again and so your offices may be getting phone calls for the special events that they're
hosting that include names that I won't say on the record uh the information is in your offices the the team professionals are once again circling the wagons uh Trisha has engaged with the Sheriff's Office to we do know that
the Sheriff's Office was notified in advance of the last one that happened but we're still getting uh phone calls with regard to noise and the inappropriate nature of it so more to come on that at some point just know that I am aware of it as the district commissioner the Port Authority is aware
of it the Port Authority has limited uh jurisdiction based on the leases and based on zoning Etc but we are relooking at it to see if there's anything that we can do I will wrap this up by saying that uh
well two wrap ups one on on the 5th of April is the rescue on the river which is the next fundraiser for the rescue Outreach Mission and to all of those employees professionals on the seal County government team and anybody
that's in our program it is Thrive for five times so I'm giv the annual plug to take care of yourself go get your annual exam get your lab work done and get your reductions and your payroll deductions based on your good behavior of taking care of yourself and thank you I thought
this was really cool it's an advancement in our notifications so I was excited about that that is it thank you commissioner uh commissioner delari district one thank you Mr chairman uh as the county representative for metrop plan
Orlando we are working with the uh met plan Alliance metro plan Alliance M Alliance which is a ncount organization and we're trying to get new funding or additional funding for the bridge on I4
going over to St John's river and so we're asking entities that actually uh come in contact with not just I4 but the bridge uh to give us a resolution of support so we can actually present this to the
state uh I plan on talking about this in Greater detail at a future agenda item but uh I would like to at some point put this on the agenda so instead of emailing it to your offices I'd like to present it to you today and then at the
next meeting discuss it and then uh we'll take it up from there but we're not looking for funding from the board we're looking for new funding from the state to move the uh widening of I4 from uh basically Lake Mary up into valuchi
County including the I4 Bridge that's what this would do um so you're asking for approval to write a letter of support you want to agendize it for like to agendize this so that we can discuss it at a future agenda item future agenda I'm happy to do that that's what you want to do but I will tell you that um
as part of um Congressman Mills Transportation uh board Valia county has that's one of their ask um to support for the congressman to support bringing
federal dollars to that project just so just so you're aware and we're aware of that we've spoken to luch County we've spoken to the land was spoken to DeBerry was spoken to Sanford was spoken to a lot of entities we haven't spoken to seal county yet sure so I'm bringing this back so we can put on agenda so we can discuss commissioner her I'd be
delighted to have it on the agenda I get stuck in it all the time I would add Orange City and Delona to the mix all of those commission we're getting them all we're just uh this is one of the stops and for those of us that go to New Smyrna I I suspect they'd be delighted to get that bridge fixed as well cuz
their Friday night could start earlier in order for me to get something that's approved I got to bring into this board I didn't want to just keep C I'd like to put us on the agenda for our approval out of the future agenda item that's why I'm bringing this okay yall got it commissioner thank you thank you very
much commissioner last week I had the honor and privilege to actually meet with Christina W Smith and we know her as Christina Watkins uh she is a channel 2 anchor person uh she actually grew up in
Ido and she wrote a book children's book and it's is growing a garden and uh I was there when she read the book to a bunch of children and it was amazing to see their F faces light up and her interact with the little ones uh I did
ask for copies she did give us copies and they autographed each one of you so i' like to pass this down if you take the top one it's assigned to you it's got your name on it so this one's yours J next one is Andrew hers this one is yours commissioner thank you much I have
lockards here and uh I would like to after we look at this see about putting this in our library it's a great children's book and it's uh actually written by someone that actually grew up here in SEO County went
to seal County schools and uh artist rendition I actually saw the picture it's about her sister who's no longer with us and uh if you see the original picture of uh Tiffany uh the artist rendition the artist did a phenomenal job and uh
should be commended but more importantly uh news to anchor Christine Watkins should be commended for doing a book about uh emotions and
uh it's just great that she actually did this so I commend her for that I would like to talk to the county manager about how do we put a book like this in our libraries books like this should be in our libraries but and then also at the uh Children's Alliance the
health department presented this uh prevention resource guide I want to make sure we all have a copy of it so if we could pass that down as well sure and then last uh I'm not needing any action at this time but uh staff is
working with myself and the residents uh Trinity Bay which is over by uh Aloma and tusca it's a townhouse unit uh staff has been working very hard with the townhouse unit they have a lot of flooding and uh their flooding is
actually causing a couple of homes to flood and uh we've actually spoken to St John's uh to talk about uh code enforcement on them uh one of the things we did find out that the uh uh plans
that uh when Trinity when the uh townhouse unit was built wasn't actually completed and they're trying to figure out how to get that done as well as maintenance issues and I wanted to just bring this up to everyone's attention because every time we have a minor minor
rainfall two homes actually flood I've been out there one evening and uh when they say A River Runs Through It a river definitely runs through their house with fish I'll be sending you all photos and videos showing you the uh stream that
actually goes through a person's living room and uh it's quite sad and uh I plan on bringing this back up another uh update from the district but I didn't want you caught off guard I'm
looking not for no action at this point hopefully staff will brief you all and uh we'll be talking about this in in the future thank you Mr chairman thank you commissioner Constantine District three thank you very much um as you know uh
this past week was um Florida Association of counties legislative days in Tallahassee um I believe I know that uh Trisha as well as the county manager as well as commissioner lockart and I were there I did want you all to know uh that
um I did have a conversation with Senator pad's office concerning the local Act and the potential of the property that um we all know is um concerning to us in the
wakaba protection area and possible solutions for that uh also um I know we've all received a number of emails concerning 1118 and that egregious Bill and that's
what it is but I will tell you that because of the public outrage and the concerns of many of the Senators uh that it is being Rewritten as we speak I do not know what it will
look like but if it wasn't for the fact that citizens all over the State of Florida including the sponsors own Republican party citizens um that bill would probably continue to move through the process but in talking to the
Florida Association of counties um lobbyist today he was in their office uh waiting for the rewrite so I just wanted to let you know that U I think that uh we have to keep our diligence in
watching that bill but um we don't know what it's going to look like but thank thank everyone out there and everyone uh throughout the state that um has indicated how difficult how terrible
118 Center Bill 118 and the uh agricultural enclaves which is doing the very opposite of what you know revitalization of the rural area would do um also I did want to say that at the
longwoods community center on Thursday um there's going to be the pearls of seminal County leadership luncheon on also the 27th luncheon uh the League of Women Voters will have a
hot topics at Embassy Suites in Altamont in which I believe you Mr chairman will be one of the people on the um Podium I will um or so wish you the best on the 29th many of you remember that I brought
forth a a young man that wanted to get his Eagle Scout medal um to do the Medal of Honor he wanted to do as his project the medal of honor memorial project at our Criminal Justice Center we all gave him permission as long as we agreed to
the language and the plaque that all has been done and that will and he will be doing that program on March 29th at 10:00 a.m. at the criminal justice uh Center also I believe that all we're
having a we seol County are having a vendor fair and Resource Management purchasing and contracts to all those out there that wish to work with the county on March 31st at the Lake Mary Event Center and also that same day
there at the Marriott at the courtyard near the Marriott Lake Mary there is the taste of Lake Mary by the Lake Mary rotary club which I know that uh um commissioner her is not I think a member of but she says she's done more work than most members yeah shout out to the
Lake Mary rotary for forgetting to say that uh we've already bought our tickets get and I've already done a sponsorship but hopefully they'll forgive me also on April 2nd there is the uh cfx is doing the refined alternative public workshop
for the state on 4th 17 and and again I'm you know I'm not I defer to commissioner her who's on that but that will be at the gal Galo School in Sanford for those that are interested um also something that's very near and dear
to commissioner delori as the um kids house Unity candle lighting which will be dece which will be April 3rd at 10:00 a.m. at their offices and we will have uh a branch at the Castlebury Branch Library a Kids Zone ribbon cutting event
on the 3 at 2:30 um did want to let everybody know that we were are after a Hiatus last year we are having the Springs concert again but it will no longer be at the
Springs it will be at Crane's Roost and it will be both April 4th and 5th at CR Roost and so I think that'll be a you know Wonderful venue for that location although I am sad that it's being it's
moved from the springs and also on the 5ifth there is the 12th annual East almite Unity day at the Boys and Girls Club in Winwood Park East alamont Springs I will also say one thing um the
111 Senate Bill 1118 I just want everyone to know that even though it hasn't moved in the house that means nothing at this early stage in the com in the in the session that can be picked up moved re-referred
taken out I I remind you that back in 2000 I had four references to the unified building codes with only only one week left and I got it on the floor so just be continue please to be diligent on that and the last thing is
we all remember how difficult it was on Shadow Bay and we all know that we came to conclusion and it was this our staff and uh and and they did a great deal of the hard lifting to make sure that that
worked well one of the folks that was very much involved Vlad and Vlad I'm I'm I'm it's I'm going to try please forgive me simisi is retiring from us I think he's going to a popka but he was the one that
uh did a lot of the heavy lifting that helped us get through and those citizens get through that difficult situation I wanted to wish him all the best in his next adventure and with that Mr chairman I'm done thank you very much
commissioner um March 12 both I also attended and was U humbled to be able to speak at the Interfaith ifar 2025 commissioner her was there commissioner delari was there uh and many others elected officials as well as uh folks
from all around the county really a special special event it really is um March 13th with our was our board retreat I want to thank each and every one of you for attending I want to thank staff who did such a great job in in bringing stuff to us for consideration
so we were able to give guidance for our strategic plans and so forth so sincerely thank you all for doing that March 14th I attended the fire station 42 uh which is in my district of Geneva the two Good Samaritans who uh rescued a
resident who had capsized in Lake Harney near death uh and was transported uh to the hospital brought back to life and he was there with his wife and the two individuals who helped rescue him and our firefighters and paramedics it was
really a special special uh uh reunion of those people to get together and ironically and I thought they were joking when I first got there to talk to them the poor gentleman that had become capsized in the boat when the two other boers got there to hang on to him on the
side of the boat in freezing water before our paramedics got there grabbed his fishing pole and there was actually a fish on it which they took and they ate and thanked him for catching a fish for him so there was no alligators
around um well it's was too cold I guess more than likely but it was it really a a a great mankind you know type story for people to to reach out to other people and help them to help our firefighters and
paramedics get this man back to uh his family uh also April 24th is the Golden Eagle dinner for the scouts just putting on everybody's radar I'll give you more updates as we progress uh also for those
who are not aware Justice EC Perry has published a book uh in the Florida historical society it's available called benchmarked about his time on the bench uh and his story um I've ordered my copy
it may be something interest all of you um his life story becoming the first U Justice to be you know hail from seol County uh so you may want to look into that outside of that I think that's all
I have we will now move to public comment items not related to today's agenda and remind everyone this is three minutes per person these are for things that weren't on the agenda today and are items that the County Commission has
some control or ability to impact or effect this is not something uh related to the school board or something related to something outside of our purview so if you have something we will start that uh you'll
call one at a time up if you would please miss Dominique Justin Harvey Mr Harvey If you'd come up and briefly just give us a quick overview what you want to talk about your name and address for the record and welcome thank you my name is Justin Harvey I'm
at 1025 Hamlet Drive in maitlin uh thank you so much for having me here today I am uh today here calling for you to uh end the practice of water fluoridation and as I just heard you're going to be talking about it very soon I'm grateful for that um and I I'm calling for this due to the new and evolving science that
we know has come out this federal court case and also the overall principle I think of giving people a choice um that Florida that federal court case uh some people will say it's just one court case but I also remind people we have 75 jamama studies were recently published uh Dr Malin has been touring the the
state with Dr lpo and after that state guidance was issued we've had 25 cities have the discussion 19 of which uh removed fluoride pretty quickly and 14 of those 19 decisions were unanimous which I think really sends a pretty clear message across Florida as I'm sure
you heard Longwood Lake Mary leeburg Lakeland New samna Orman just to name a few around this area and if you weren't aware Castleberry Poco Winter Garden Claremont have never added fluoride to their drinking water which I always thought was interesting Winter Springs voted it out in
1996 um I say that to illustrate that this is not a trend or political as some people have framed this has been going on for a while I personally brought about 50 studies into the Orange County Commission meeting uh about eight years ago and now we've just got a federal judge that has corroborated it
essentially what has happened a Harvard Journal classified it as a neurotoxin in 2014 and uh um there's enough documented risk I think at this point that we just have to give people a choice because where there is risk and there is with all medications there must be choice and
we are you know administering a medication to the public as a one- siiz fits-all this is the one medication we can't opt out of I can say no to anything my doctor you know prescribes or tells me but this one comes out of the faucet you've either got to spend a lot of money or dig a well and not everybody can do that um we're also
cooking with it we're bathing with it uh the county is essentially not able to control the dose to an infant an elderly person a 300 lb man and I think that's a concern you know and if we learned anything from Co I think you know forced Medical Treatments don't typically work out you know you got to give people the
option of whether they want to take it or not um it's also important to mention it's not naturally occurring fluoride it is a hydrofluosilicic acid that comes from the phosphate industry a lot of times a newspaper will call it a naturally occurring mineral while that's in the groundwater at about 2 we add a
chemical waste from Theos F at industry personally don't want to be drinking that 95% of the world does not fluoridate their water just like Castleberry and we don't have a dental crisis in these areas which I think is also important to point out uh again thank you all for bringing this up I just want to encourage you don't wait
for the state I know you mentioned that and I think it's best to use your local control you know exercise home rule we always want to keep the state out of our local Affairs right let's not throw the controversial issue up to them and just let them handle it let's be brave let's have the discussion and let's remove the
unreasonable risk to pregnant women and children as the federal judge put it thank you so much thank you next please Sher Johnson welcome Miss Johnson hello I'm Sher Johnson and I'm from 172 Williams Road in Lake Mary Florida
resident of seminal County for since 1987 in Native floridia so I agree with everything that Justin said um I'm a certified functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioner I found this history in an article on the Ohio State
University website in the 1950s Central Florida contains some of the largest phosphate deposits in the world providing a key ingredient for Global agriculture since synthetic fertilizer however the production of fertilizer resulted in the release of Highly toxic
gases including hydrogen fluoride and silicone tetrafluoride into the air before 1970 these gases contributed to some of the worst air pollution in the country by the 1960s after many complaints manufacturers began using
pollution abatement scrubbers these scrubbers converted the toxic gases into floros fluosilicic acid or FSA a dangerous but more manageable liquid waste OSHA warns that exposure to FSA can cause severe lung damage Burns and
excruciating pain for the past 50 plus years FSA has been stored in high density plastic tanks and transported from Florida's fertilizer factories to water reservoirs across the US where it is drip fed into the drinking water supply fluoride is a waste product that
is so toxic it is not allowed to be dumped into the landfills or released into the air but is okay to be added to your water supply the negative Health impacts of fluoride include gastrointestinal issues cystic acne chronic migraines chronic nose bleeds
chronic hives interference with the thyroid calcification of the pineal gland which impacts hormone regulation kidney function issues glucose uh glucose level disruption bone fragility an increased risk of cancer fosis or
tooth discoloration which my children actually uh who grew up in seminal County have neurological disorders such as ADHD per the NIH my youngest has ADHD the NIH published a study in 2020 that found there is no known essential function for
fluoride in cells and organisms Studies have shown that children who ingest fluoride may have lower IQs and the Lancet neurology Journal has categorized fluoride as a developmental neurotoxicant similar to lead methyl
Mercury and arsenic it's apparently very toxic the warning label on the children's Colgate toothpaste says to call Poison Control right away if swallowed what kid doesn't swallow toothpaste the longer fluoride stays in our water supply the greater chance the
citizens of seal County may have one or more of the negative Health impacts I listed it is obvious fluoride is toxic there's no informed consent to add it to our water supply and people are not deficient in fluoride so I am so grateful that you're going to bring it
up on April 8th because I really think it's an important topic thank you thank you Miss Dominique anyone else here to speak on any non-agenda item no sir seeing none we'll close public comment anything good anything else good for the
order before we close the meeting seeing none we are hereby Clos the meeting thank you all very much for attending today you [Music]