Good evening. This is the August 6th, 2025 Seminal County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible
with liberty and justice for all. This board is a seven member board appointed by the board of county commissioners. A quorum has been established to hold tonight's meeting. Public hearing items acted upon by this board are referred to the board of county commissioners for further
consideration. Board members present tonight are myself, Chairman Mike Loren, Vice Chairman Tim Smith, Commissioner Cararissa Lawan, Commissioner Lordis Aguer,
Commissioner Brandy Ayapollo. Staff present tonight are Joseé Gomez, development services director, Dagmary Sigeri, development services director, excuse me, deputy director.
Joy Giles, planning and development division manager. Nissa Borurt, deputy county attorney. Annie Siloway, principal planner. Caitlyn Apagar, senior planner. Hillary Peyton, planner,
and Jaylen Marino, tonight's board clerk. Tonight's meeting will go as follows. Staff will introduce the item. The applicant will present their item. Audience members wishing to speak will then be heard. Audience participation
requires each speaker complete a comment card and give it to the clerk. Comment cards are located in the lobby. Please indicate on the comment form whether you would like to make oral comments. Written comments will also be accepted. Speakers should restrict their comments
to information directly related to the item being heard. When called, speakers should approach the microphone clearly, stating their name and address for the record. The board may ask questions of the speaker. After all speakers have been heard, public comment will be
closed. The applicant will be given a chance for rebuttal. Any items sewn shown such as video, presentations, pictures or maps must be left with the clerk for public record. Items shown from the electric devices should be emailed to the clerk. A motion will be
made and seconded. Board discussion may occurred and conclude with a vote. I will request a roll call vote for any split votes. First up, uh we have the acceptance of approval of publication. Do I have a motion? So moved. Second. Second.
All those in favor? I I. All right. Motion passes. Next. Uh, is there any changes that the board has to the minutes before we discuss approval? Seeing no. Do I have a motion on? I'll make a mot.
I'll second. Okay. A first and a second. All those in favor? I I. All those opposed? Hearing none. Approval of minutes passes. All right. Uh we're going to move on to our public hearing items. Uh Nicola Home Smallscale
Future Land Use Amendment. Caitlyn Abgar presenting. Hey Kaitlin. Hey. Good evening guys. Caitlyn Avgar, Planning and Development Services. The applicant is requesting the approval for a smallcale future land use map
amendment from public quasi public to suburban estates for proposed single family development on approximately 2.6 acres on the west side of Markham Woods Road south of Markham Woods south of Markham Road. The subject property has a future land
use designation of public quasi public and a zoning classification of A1 agriculture. The intent of the existing public quasi public future land use is to provide appropriate locations for public uses such as schools, cemeteries,
safety facilities, and transportation facilities. Residential uses are not permitted. The applicant proposes to develop the site as a single family residence, which warrants the need for the proposed amendment. The subject property is currently vacant is and is adjacent to an existing
historical cemetery known as the Piney Grove Cemetery, also known as the New Island Lake Cemetery. Due to the due to the historical cemetery being located directly adjacent to the subject site, staff conducted research to validate that the subject site was pro not
previously utilized or registered as a cemetery. The applicant provided a ground penetrating radar report that was performed on September 30th, 2024. The applicant also contacted the appropriate state agencies and nonprofit/historical
entities. These correspondences, as well as the ground penetrating radar report, are included in the agenda package for review. The site is located within the county's utility service area and will be required to connect to public utilities for water and reclaim. Sanitary sew
sewer connection is not readily available. Therefore, the site may utilize a septic system for waste water. The property proposes access onto Markham Woods Road which is classified as an urban major collector. Markhamm Woods Road is currently operating at a
level of service B. There is an existing sidewalk along Markham Woods Road. Therefore, the addition of a sidewalk will not be required upon development as it already exists. The A1 zoning classification requires a minimum lot size of 1 acre with a
minimum lot width of 150 ft at building line. The permitted uses include single family residential and is consistent with the proposed future land use of suburban estates. Per the seminal county comprehensive plan future land use objective 1.6
standards of review land use amendments are evaluated utilizing the criteria as depicted on the slide above. In summation, the surrounding character of the area has become developed over time consistent with the suburban estate's future land use. The property adjacent
to the west has remained a cemetery, but the other properties in the vicinity are developed as single family homes on a minimum of 1 acre. The site does not appear to contain any wetlands or flood plane, but will be evaluated further during the building permit process. The the request is compliant with the river
protection act area and that it limits density and complies with the standards set forth in the act and the comprehensive plan. Suburban estates and future and public future land uses are compatible transitional land uses. The future land use of suburban estates and
zoning district of A1 require larger lot size than other uh future land use and zoning districts which mitigate which mitigates potential impacts in the transition from public to suburban estates. The proposed amendment to the suburban
estates. The proposed amendment to suburban estates is compliant with the Wakiva River Protection Area in the county's comprehensive plan by meeting the intent of the following policies. Per future land use policy 2.2.5.
Um the county shall implement standards to maintain low density and enforce development standards farthest from um surface waters and wetlands and minimize the development impacts. There are no wetlands per estimates from the national wetland inventory maps and any development on the subject property is
subject to the maximum impervious surface ratio of 60% due to its status in the aquafer recharge overlay per future land use policy 2.3. Um development in the area um in the
Wakaver River Protection area is out of one dwelling unit or less per net buildable acre. um those land uses design those land use designations in the warp um shall not be amended except to reassign a land use to suburban
estates for the purpose of developing single family units. This request is compliant with this policy. Um per policy 2.3.8 intent is also one dwelling unit per net buildable acre. This also meets this as previously described.
Staff request the planning and zoning commission uh recommend the board of county commissioners adopt the proposed ordinance enacting a smallcale future land use map amendment from public quasi public to suburban estates for proposed single family dwelling unit on
approximately 2.6 acres. Thank you. Kaylin is the uh applicant here actually pause that. Is there any questions of staff yet? something. Um I wanted to clarify in the staff report it seems to indicate that um there's only
going to be a one single family residence built. Um but I don't see anything that limits one in the development order. So is it could it potentially be a second later or So they would have to go through the subdivision process in order to do that.
The current um right-of-way frontage that they have is only 20 ft. Um, any created lot requires 20 ft a minimum of public frontage. So based on their current public frontage amount, they have only
they're only able to do one based on that current frontage. Any other questions of staff? Sorry, is the applicant here? Yes, sir. Mr. Chair, members of the commission, my name is Lonnie Groot. I'm representing the property owners,
Alexander and Dragana Nicolik. The Kitch is actually the correct pronounce. I'll give my address in just a second. I know you got that perfect picture. They're sitting in the back with the UCF hat on and the lady next to next to Yeah. And my address is 3047 South Atlantic Avenue, Daytona Beach Shores,
Florida 32118. And I know you want to stick to certain time limits. Staff has presented everything that it possibly can. I know you've read your agenda packets and I
put a I've submitted a legal memorandum and some other materials in support of the application. Uh, I can go into the history of the Simino County comprehensing plan and tell you why in my view this is really just a clerical
matter and that would take a few minutes to do so. I'll be glad to do it. But the bottom line really is I think maintaining the current future land use designation on the property is actually inconsistent with the seminal county
comprehensy plan because the property is not appropriate for public qua public just like any other property abuing this property. it's appropriate for private uses and is subject to the ability to
use property as a private property right which is inherent in the and stated in the similar county competency plan. So actually and I have a legal memorandum in there in the agenda packet. It's inconsistent to keep it the way it is.
Uh, but I can go in to tell you why I think it was a this is really a clerical error if you'd like to to tell me for me to tell you why. Cuz actually if this property had not been conveyed to a church in 1946,
we wouldn't be here today. I can I'm sure of that. But that's what caused this whole issue to arise was that conveyance in 1946 to a church. So, if you'd like me to go into that further, I don't know what time limit you'd like to
prescribe for the applicant or not. I was interested in Okay. Not necessarily yet. No, it's fine. I guess um is there if you're done presenting, I'll you'll have a chance. I would like to rebut of course, but unless you want to go into why I think
it's a clerical error, fine or clerical correction actually. It's not a clerical error. It's clerical correction based upon that 1946 conveyance. I will. If not, then I'll sit down and listen to what anybody else might have to say and then rebutt. Is there any questions for the applicant?
I have one. Um I read that um you all doing your due diligence um wrote to the division of historical resources, the Black Cemetery Network, S County School District. Um I didn't see although it was mentioned that the responses were
included in our packet, I didn't see what was the response you got from the Black Cemetery Network. What did they say? They they was a nice response. They said they have their resources are reported cemeteries and reported graves in the
black community. They appreciated our inquiry and referred us to the Florida Department of State, which was the right thing to do. But I didn't even know there was a Black Cemetery Network, but I saw it when I did some research. So, I
figured I I would reach out to them as a resource. And there was there was no so they didn't have anything in their record. Okay. Thank you. And I've submitted that report to staff. So I mean their their response to staff.
Nothing further. Okay. Thank you. Chairman. Yes. Just for the record, the um memorandum Mr. Groot referenced is on page 84 of the agenda for reference.
So, I'm going to move on to uh members of the audience who would like to speak in either favor or opposition of this request. Um believe we have some comment cards. expensive paper we're using now.
All right. William Clatt. Yes. Please uh approach me and uh name and address for the record, please. My name is William Clad. I live at 1719 Cedar Stone Court. Been living here in Lake Mary since 1988. And before I
start, I would like to thank Caitlyn Abgar from Planet Development for ensuring that the lawyers did not succeed in not sending us a notice as stated that they had accidentally got their radios wrong. So, I would like to
play a video now if it's possible. The video is 4 and a half minutes long. Yeah. So, we're going to share a time Ernie, myself, so we can see the four and a half minutes. Yeah. We get each speaker gets three minutes. Yes. So, I don't know if you'll have time for the whole video.
Yes, we do because my my other between both of us, we're presenting this video. Okay. You have somebody else that's present. Yeah. So, we'll we'll split time. Yeah. Have to pause. One of our News Six viewers reached out to us about a part of Semino County that has been disappearing through the
decades. News 6 reporter Katherine Silver explores Markham Woods. It's been here for a long time. It's a piece of Semino County's history that's buried. It's really hidden. We have to keep in here. Stories passed on with few records that
hold true answers. There's some markers there. Mr. General Gene Nelson, 1959. John Stanton, 1937. Bill Clatt only knew about it because he recently discovered part of it is just beyond his property. How many people do you think don't even realize this
exists? I think most of the people don't even know. Not far from Markhamwoods Road lies what was known as Piney Ridge Cemetery. This was a burial ground for the black community that developed lumber and tarpentine here in the early 20th century when the town of Markham
existed. What we do know about its history we found at the museum in Seminal County. Answers here aren't buried in the ground but in cabinets and files. reminders of a reality years ago.
Where we're located is, you know, right in here. That's where Markham like the community is going to be centered. It's west of Polola cuz it was close to the railway. Yeah, it was close to the railway and also to the river because Bennett Lloyd is the museum coordinator. All of this is Wilson Cypress and uh you
have little pockets of it. Te Wilson. These companies really owned everything and the laborers who we see buried at Piney Ridge are the ones who did all the work. Yes. And it was grueling work. At what point did the town of Markham disappear?
Really, by the time we see it here in the 40s and 50s, it was only on paper. Today, it's only known as a ghost town. They would move the whole town and they would drop it on another uh little plot of land nearby and they would do the same thing for that land. And the cycle
continued where there would have been a church, a community. Here it was Oak Groves Missionary Baptist that was here until 1928 when it burnt down. There is now mostly pine trees. There are dozens of these cemeteries scattered around the county. Uh some of which have been lost to development already and we're working on trying to
figure out what what parking lots they're under. The only peak into the past at Piney Ridge are metal markers, some rusted or unreadable. Many were wooden and disintegrated through the decades. Do we have any way of knowing how many people could be buried here?
I've seen estimates from 25 to 75, but those estimates are also older. A lot of the families, they'll still have plots here. What we see here today is a cemetery that is small, but still in use. It's what Clatt found just beyond the treeine. This collection of apparent
graves that made him wonder just how much bigger this burial site could be. It could be that uh you know it's uh poor individuals who still wanted to be close to the cemetery but uh didn't really have the money to purchase plots. There's really no way of knowing who's
buried here and where unless there's, you know, some kind of archaeology done. Sincere proposal future land use designation amendments. The owners of a nearby property have plans to build a home on their land. This letter is from a law firm. They paid for a ground penetrating radar
report that was limited by the terrain but found no graves. There was some concern that a cemetery was located on the property. Evidence proves to the contrary. Clatt says he just wants people to remember what happened long ago, what's been lost along the way, and to keep
telling the story. You reached out to us cuz you believe this is a story worth telling. Yes. For us to capture the essence of Markhamm Woods, it would be very important to restore this cemetery and also make it a historical site because here there is no story without
the people who made Markham in Semino County. Katherine Silver getting results News 6. Just fascinating. It really is. I did a story years ago. I think it was the Oakland cemetery and it's primarily African-American and had it not been for the people in that
community saying there are graves back here they were trying to widen and put part of the turnpike over in that area. So, I'm so glad that they are preserving all of that because those people lived. They mattered and you know, Yeah. and so many people live around there today and we've talked about
Markham Woods and everyone's familiar with that, but I don't think many people realize that that was an actual town and the history that was in that area before the modern day subdivision. Yeah. Thank you for your time.
Granger knows that if your alignment in All right. Uh, next up, uh, Ernest. I just, uh, Oh, donut. Okay, that was it. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Okay.
Uh, Christopher and name and address for the record, please. Christopher Thorp, 1713 Cedar Stone Court, Lake Mary, Florida, 32746. I'm not going to take up much your time. I just want the board when you're making your decision, look at that ground penetrating radar report. It's not
conclusive. They didn't that lot is nowhere near where you can get a good ground penetrating radar report. There's got to be some clearing down there. It needs to be done before we start digging up an African-American grave site. That
That's all that's all I need to say to you is just look at that ground penetrating radar report and make your decision from there. Thank you. Uh, next up, Ronnie Whitlock. And name and address, please. Thank you. Ronnie Whitlock, 6000 Markhamm Woods. I
think we're just curious of what's what they're anticipating building there. Nobody really knows and that's kind of been a question what's what's we've heard uh churches, cemeteries, we've heard all kind of things. We're just kind of curious to what the plan actually is to build there.
Appreciate it. Joel and Sue Russell. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um do not comment. Okay. Was there any more comment cards for this one? No.
Okay. Does anybody else from the audience want to speak on this item? All right. Hearing comments. Sorry. All right. Seeing none, I'm going to close public comments. Um,
so yeah, I was just going to ask if the applicant wanted to come up. I'm just Go ahead. Yeah, I think um in response to the question from the property owner that just came up is could there be a church there? That's what I was going to get into.
In the A1 district, civic assembly uses, the neighborhood use requires five acres. I believe this site is only two 2.6 2.6 acres. So, it wouldn't meet the requirement to have a church on the property. Um, also, I'll just note that
you saw that this is within the Wakiva River area protection area. um those uh uses are limited to one dwelling unit per acre, single family residential dwelling unit per acre. So um that
really is overwriting of a lot of this stuff. You'll have the the A1 designation, but you have to meet the Wakiva provisions and those standards. So I'll just point out that that is an overarching requirement for this area.
Now, if they were to um engage in, you know, agricultural uses or something like that, they could they could probably do that, but it would be again mitigated by the Wakiva and any standards there. Thank you for that clarification. Sure.
That's kind of what I wanted to dig into. Sure. And I'm sure the applicant can Yeah, that's okay. talk about their intent, but I just wanted to clarify that. Yeah, please. Sure. Thank you again, Mr. Chair. So, um,
as to the I guess three issues that were were brought up. First of all, in terms of the ghost town, we agree. I thought if you you read my application, I was fascinated by the history of Markham and the and the the African-American
community settlement that was there. I attached articles relating to that whole history in the application. So, um, we just there's no there's no proof except to the contrary that there was a
a cemetery located or is a cemetery located on my client's property. Indeed, uh, in the application, I note that the, uh, that the the property appraisal appraiser, uh, came to the conclusion
back when they put the property back on the tax roles after a hiatus of about 66 years, uh, that they removed the Department of Revenue Code for cemeteries and put single
family residential, which is the case now. They did that in 2012 and they concluded that there never has been a cemetery church no longer there. That's not written very well, but never been a cemetery church there. And actually the
church that owned the property they they stated was not in had been not been a church for 60 years at the time. That's why I keep referring to the fact that this conveyance in 1946
re if it had one result, it's took the property off the tax roles for 66 years because since 2012 it's been on the tax roles. That's why there was a tax deed and that's why my clients been paying $4,000 a year. Well, they're paying $4,000 this year. That's what the tax
bill said. Uh and have paid taxes on the property since 2016. So, um, we agree the area is historically significant. There's just no evidence except to the contrary that there is a cemetery or graves on the site. Um, as to the GPR
issue, let me just note that if there was construction on the site, state law requires you to stop if there's a grave found. When I was with the Simol County Attorney's Office, we had to stop several times, not only for finding
human graves on road projects, but also a pet cemetery at the corner of Aloma and and uh where the expressway ends in Simol ended at the time in Simol County. I forgot the name of the pet cemetery, but we had to stop for several days
because of of that, too. So, but state law requires you to stop, notify archa archaeological uh personnel, and go through a whole litany of of events if you do happen to find a grave during the course of construction. In terms of
what's intended, I can tell you, and I've talked to my clients again tonight, and I'm going to look at them in the back, and they can nod their head. They plan on having one single family residential. They're both nodding their heads in the affirmative because they're not
interested in going through the subdivision process. Okay? And and all that would entail. So the intent is to do one single family residence on the site. There's not any intent to do a church. I
I know there's consternation about a development at the end of the road, the dirt road, uh that the the property abut. There's consternation about what happened down there, you know, uh, in terms of becoming an some type of a code
enforcement issue and becoming an event center when it was supposed to be an a use. That's not what we're about. We want to build one single family residence on the site. I don't know how unambiguous I can be. That's the intent
of Mr. and Mrs. Nishelich. Any questions? All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Board discussion. None. I'll I'll make a motion to recommend the board of county the board of county
commissioners adopt the proposed ordinance enacting a smallcale future land use map amendment per the following motion. one based on staff's findings and the testimony and evidence received at the hearing. The planning and zoning commission finds the request meets the identified portions of the comprehensive
plan and moves to adopt the requested small-cale future land use map amendment from public quasi public to suburban estates. I have a motion. Do I have a second? Second. All those in favor? I.
All those opposed hearing none. Motion passes. Thank you very much. All right. Um, moving on to the next public hearing item, the cigar lounge special exemption. Uh,
Hillary Pen Peyton presenting. Sorry. It's okay. Either way is fine with me. Good evening. Hillary Peyton, Planning and Development. Uh, this item is a request for a special exception for the cigar lounge to amend their existing special exception for an alcoholic
beverage establishment to allow for expansion in the LMA Vista Plan development on 2.29 acres located on the northwest corner of West State Road 426 and Via Loma Drive. The applicant currently operates an existing cigar lounge in a shopping
plaza via special exception approved on October 25th, 2010 for onremise consumption of beer and wine as an accessory use to the tobacco products offered for sale on site. The applicant is requesting to amend the special exception to allow for expansion of the operation into the adjacent unit to
continue serving beer and wine. The cigar lounge has increased from 1,350 square feet to 2500 square f feet in size and they seat 25 patrons with no outdoor seating. The hours of operation are currently Monday through Wednesday
12:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Th Thursday through Saturday from 12:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. and Sunday from 1:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. The Sim County Land Development Code states that any establishment selling alcoholic beverages for consumption on
premise shall maintain separations from all churches and schools. The cigar lounge meets all separation requirements and will continue to meet these requirements with the proposed expansion. The land development code states that certain criteria must be met for the board of county commissioners to approve
a special exception request. Staff finds that the request meets the four criteria. On July 15, 2025, the applicant held a community meeting in compliance with the land development code. Details of the meeting have been provided in your agenda package.
staff requests that the board of county commissioners approve the amendment of an existing special exception to allow with the conditions stated in the development order an alcoholic beverage establishment to expand in the PD district on 2.29 acres located on the northwest corner of West State Road 426
and via Lulmen Drive. This concludes my presentation. I'm available for any questions. Any any questions from the board? I have one. Um, I heard you say that the seating is 20 to 25 with no outdoor seating, but you showed us a picture with outdoor seating.
Unless my eyes are a lot worse than I thought. That looks like outdoor seating. Those are not tables and chairs and chairs and stuff out there. That's indoor. No. Oh, that's inside. Yeah, that's inside. You're talking about on the sidewalk? The sidewalk right here. The front door. This is all inside,
right? No, I'm looking at the picture. Oh, yeah. They have to remove it. Oh, sorry. I thought you meant the the drawing. No, we uh required that they have a um site plan to have the outdoor seating and they've opted to remove it.
Gotcha. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? Um is that applicant present? I believe so. Yes. mind. Come on up. Thanks. Name and address.
Hey, how you doing? Ryan Labar. Uh, home address, 1909 Criterion Court, Windermir, Florida 34786. Thanks. Yeah, you have the opportunity to present any extra information you want to do or not.
Um, we bought the So, this the cigar lounge existed for I believe 10 and 12 years. We bought it two years ago. Um, 2022 of December. We tried to renew the alcohol and they had beer and wine. We tried to renew that, but the previous
owner put an L to the bar into the next space, which required us to, I guess, reapply and go through the whole thing over again. So, that's been the dilemma. Gotcha. Okay. Appreciate that. Is there uh any questions? The applicant?
Yes. I only have one question. The expansion of the square footage, will it also require you to have the uh exhaust fans to absorb the They're already in there. So nothing like he blew out a wall
essentially and made the bar like an L, but it didn't it all it did was add three to four more seats to the bar. There's no other the rest of the space is just like retail space. So it's like cabinets holding products, but there's no other seating in that area besides
the three to four seats on the bar. This right here. So this area right here was expanded, but this is all retail. So there's actually no seating over here. All right. Well, thank you. Um, you'll have a chance to, you know, comment if
there's additional speakers. Do we have any comment cards for this one? All right. I'm going to open and close public comments unless there's anybody in the audience to speak on it. Seeing none, I'm going to close public comments. Um,
board discussion. Motion. I'll make a motion. Um, I'll make a motion that the board of county commissioners approve the amendment of an existing special exception to allow with the condition stated in the development order an alcoholic beverage establishment to expand in the the
planned development district on 2.29 acres located on the northwest corner of West State Road 426 and Voma Drive. Second. I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion
passes. Congratulations. Moving on to our next public hearing item. Village on green smallcale future land use amendment. Annie Silhaway presenting. Good evening. Um Annie Siloway with development services. Um I will be
presenting the village on the green. The applicant is requesting a small-scale future land use map amendment from highdensity residential and plan development to plan development and a reszone from R3 multiple family dwelling and PD plan development to PD plan
development. The subject site was approved as part of the Sable Point PD in 1979 with entitlements for single family residential, multifamily, a golf course, office, and commercial uses on 3,50 acres.
2018, the board of county commissioners approved a PD major amendment reszone on 75.76 acres of the Sable Point PD, now known as the Village on the Green PD, with entitlements for a continuum of care
facility of 144 beds providing skilled nursing care for assisted living and memory care along with 514 independent living units for residents 55 years and older with a maximum density of 10.7 78 dwell dwelling units per net buildable
acre and a maximum 138,100 square ft for the healthc care facility and a 35,76qt clubhouse. The applicant is proposing to incorporate an additional 6.83 83 acres designated as pod E on the master
development plan from the remaining Sable Point PD into the village on the green PD for the addition of 40 independent living dwelling units consisting of both duplexes and single family units. The existing village on the green proposes adding a 5,500 square
foot amenities building and two sport courts within a southern within the southern portion of pod B2. The overall development will maintain a maximum density of 7.09 dwelling units per net billable acre and a maximum floor area
ratio of60. The development proposes a new access point onto Wakiva Springs Road from the newly incorporated 6.83 acre parcel while maintaining access via Sable Palm Drive. Sable Palm Drive is classified as an urban minor arterial and a local
roadway. There are discussions of a gate into the proposed pod east site. The county from Wakiva Springs Road and the county engineer does have concerns with access to the site such as possible queuing out onto Akiva Springs Road. Based on these traffic safety concerns,
a right turn lane or other entrance requirements may be required at the time of final engineering. There appears to be approximately 4.80 acres of flood plane on the existing village on the green subject property. However, the newly incorporated POD E
parcel does not contain any flood planes or wetlands. The developer will be required to maintain a 15 foot wide landscape buffer along the south and southeast perimeter and a 10-ft wide landscape buffer is proposed along the west boundary of the newly incorporated
POD E parcel referred to as Potty. The amenity area encompassing the amenities building and sport court shall maintain the previously approved 10- foot wide buffer along its southern boundary of pod B2. The proposed project is located within
the Little Wakiva drainage basin. A portion of the site has a master drainage basin system. Due to the basin having a limited downstream capacity, the site will have to be designed to hold water quality and the pre versus post volutric difference for the 25-year
24-hour storm event. The overall site plan will be required to maintain a minimum of 25% open space. The proposed PD zoning designation and the associated master development plan have been evaluated for compliance with the seminal county land development code
review criteria for plan developments. The proposed plan development zoning and associated master development plan are consistent with the seminal county land development code and the comprehensive plan. The development supports the goals of the future land use element by promoting flexibility, incorporating a
max a mix of housing types and redeveloping underutilized land, specifically through the newly integrated 6.83 acre parcel referred to as pod E that was previously and developed as an office site and is proposed to be converted into an
additional 40 independent living units. The project cannot be reasonably implemented under conventional zoning and offers greater community benefits, including crime prevention through environmental design standards, measures such as secure fencing and controlled access, as well as reduced vehicular
trips due to on-site amenities, proximity to retail and internal golf cart access. The design preserves approximately 90% of the existing tree canopy and key areas, enhances landscaping with native species, and provides internal sidewalk trails and
pedestrian access to Wakiva Springs Road, ensuring strong multimodal connectivity. The applicant has demonstrated compliance with all relevant sections of the code, including residential design standards, neighborhood improvements, and common
usable open space requirements as demonstrated in this architectural rendering while presenting an innovative and efficient development approach that aligns with adopted county planning policies. The plan development future land use
designation shall promote flexibility and creativity in the development design especially where needed to implement adopted policies of the comprehensive plan. It may also be used to promote pedestrianoriented development and protection of natural resources such as wetlands, lakes, and other natural
amenities. Per the seminal county comprehensive plan flu objective 1.6 Six standards of review category 1 land use amendments are evaluated utilizing the following criteria and are addressed as follows. The proposed land use amendment and redevelopment of the subject site
are justified by significant changes in the surrounding areas character. Notably the decline demand for office space postcoid and the increased need for senior housing. The project repurposes an underutilized commercial parcel into
a residential development, reducing sprawl and enhancing community in integration by expanding the existing village on the green. Public facilities and services, including water, sewer, and road access are already in place with sufficient capacity. The
redevelopment is expected to re reduce peak traffic impacts compared to the previous office use and all infrastructure improvements will comply with adopted service levels. The site is suitable for development and no wetlands or flood planes are of concern though
CARS features will require appropriate buffering and conservation easements. The proposed use creates a compatible transition between existing commercial and residential developments in incorporating appropriate setbacks, landscaping, and open space. While no
public facility contributions beyond minimum requirements are anticipated, the applicant will need to provide a sidewalk and potentially a right turn lane due to access concerns. Although the project does not include workforce housing or directly support economic development or mass transit, it reduces
transportation impacts and aligns with local, regional, and state planning policies by redeveloping underutilized land, preserving natural resources, and enhancing neighborhood compatibility in in accordance with the Central Florida Regional Growth Vision.
The applicant conducted a community meeting on May 8th, 2025, and no one from the public attended the meeting. Details of the community meeting have been provided in the agenda package. For the record, I have received three emails of concern from adjacent neighbors to the village on the green and these
emails were emailed to the planning and zoning commission and two emails were received this afternoon and have been provided to the planning and zoning commission tonight. So staff requests the planning and zoning commission to recommend the board of county
commissioners adopt the proposed small-scale future land use map amendment and concurrent reszone as per the following two motions based on staff's findings and the testimony and evidence received at the hearing. The planning and zoning commission finds
the request meets the identified portions of the comprehensive plan and recommends the board adopt the requested small-scale future land use map amendment from highdensity residential to plan development and based on staff's findings and the testimony and evidence
received at the hearing. The planning and zoning commission finds the request meets the identified portions of the Simol County Land Development Code and recommends the board adopt the requested reszone from R3 multiple family dwelling and PD plan development to PD plan development and approve the associated
development order and master development plan. And that concludes my presentation. Thank you, Annie. Thank you. Board have any uh questions for staff on this one? Sure, I do. Um, Annie, I think you did a really good job on this presentation.
Very comprehensive. Thank you. Thanks. Um, you noted that the county engineer has some concerns uh with regard to the proposed access um off of Wakiva Springs Road. Yes. Is that something that uh can be
resolved with a right turn lane for sure or is it something that may be eliminated later down the line? The access entirely on that off of that road? So, I can answer that. Jose Gomez development services director. Uh that's a concern just of ingress and egress and
of stacking because of the proposed gate. There are certainly ways to mitigate that at site plan. If they can't provide the sufficient stacking and uh they'd have to provide a turn lane and if they couldn't then we would um basically not allow the gate at that
location. Uh, so that's something that could be addressed through that site plan, but there will be access off of this road with or without a gate. Uh, what they're proposing at this time is is requesting that access at that location. It seems important um, you know, based
on the reading from the, you know, concerned um, people and also the site plan. So, you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to approve this tonight and then see that eliminated, you know, entirely. No, that's that's a good point and and staff believes from a circulation standpoint and providing
that interconnectivity to Wakava Springs Road that it is important for the development uh to provide that access point. We're just the concern is more about making sure that it it's safe that uh traffic doesn't stack onto Springs Road. Okay. Any other questions of staff at this
point? Is the applicant here? They are. All right, please come on up. Good evening. For the record, McGregor Love, 215 North Yola Drive from Louns here on behalf of the applicant. Um, as
you appropriately noted, staff did a really great thorough job. So, I will uh spare this commission the the details, but I thought I'd I'd summarize what we're looking at here. Um, you know, this was the existing building was built
in 1983. That's a six over 67,000 square feet. Uh, if you look at an aerial of this parcel, it's almost entirely impervious surface. So allowing this parcel to be redeveloped under the
current code and uh in a manner that integrates uh a residential use with the existing uh development um is why I believe staff appropriately noted this is consistent with uh the planning
objectives of the county. Uh, I have our project engineer here. Um, and they can answer more detailed questions that that either you have or members of the public have. Uh, so we're available for questions. Thank you.
Excellent. Thank you. All right. Is there any questions at this point? Why are you looking at me? Oops. I'm guessing there's going to be some public comments. Just looking down the way. Yeah. So, public comments here. All right. So,
we're going to open it up for the audience to speak in favor. We're in opposition. It looks like everybody's in opposition of it. So, we'll start out with uh Kevin Bole. Good evening. My name is Kevin Bole. I'm
at 106 Fairway Drive, Longwood, Florida, 32779. I live conveniently directly behind this um lot um in Fairway Villa in the Springs. Um, I'm opposed to this
development mainly because of the development of the recreational area and the open sports courts aka pickle ball which has been a big issue within our own community with the Norris ordinance and disruption that that causes. um as
well as the concern of um changing of these retention ponds for drainage because all of our properties actually slope towards that area. So, we're concerned about drainage. But that's all I have to say. All right.
Thank you. Um staff, can we maybe address the drainage uh comment? Is there uh Sure. Uh I don't know if the applicant Yeah. Yeah. Would you prefer chairman? Do you want to address it now prior to the rest of public comment
just to I mean you're you're you can you can do it. That's fine. That's Yeah, we'll but it may I mean it may be good since we didn't talk about it before that they go through the drainage so that the public has knowledge of what the engineering says on the site and then maybe they can
tailor their comments with additional questions. Yeah. Good for them. Okay, perfect. All right, let's do that then. We'll get them all together and then we're about at the end. All right. Um,
moving on. It looks like we've got Fran Smirker Smyrnner. Oh, there. Welcome. Good evening. Hello. I'm actually Fran's daughter. I live at 223 West Sable Palm Place, Longwood,
Florida 32779. Um, I just have two I'm sorry, what's your name for the record? Melissa Sakonic. Suk K. Thank you. You're welcome. Um, I have two questions for this. We're talking about a right lane turning in off Wakava Springs Road, but what about people leaving out of
that development? Is there going to be a light there to control people making a left turn lane out of this development onto Wakava Springs Road? because it's already a very busy road. So, is there going to be a light there for lefthand turns coming out of there? If not,
there's going to be issues. And then my second question is, my mom and I walk every morning, and we love seeing the deer every morning when we walk. Is this going to take away all that all the wooded areas for the deers and interrupt their lives? Thank you.
Uh, Alexi Wyatt. Good evening. My name is Alexi Wyatt. I live at 207 Fairway Drive in Longwood, 32779. I live close to Kevin, so I have similar concerns. Um, our pool abuts the area
where you're proposing the pickle ball courts. So, I do have concern about the noise that's going to bring uh more development, brings more traffic, brings more people. I have concern 434 is always a mess. Can't even get out of our neighborhood even with the light. I don't think I've ever been able to make
a right on red um often, let's put it that way. Uh, so I do have concerns about the people that the additional traffic it's going to bring. Um, I have really big concerns about what it's going to do to the envi to the
environment. Um, new development, it's displaces wildlife. Um, I'm not sure if this retention pond is going to be filled in, but I do have concerns about that. Um, it's going to displace amphibious wildlife. Um, I have concerns
about it changing the character of the springs, the proximity that it is to the springs. I moved into the Springs because it's not your typical cookie cutter model. It's got a lot of character and so I have concern about it changing the character of our community
and the noise that it's going to generate. I don't know if there's going to be any noise studies done, but um I urge you to please um consider rejecting this proposal. And thank you. Thank you, Edna Rosen.
Hi, my name is Edna Rosen. I live at 112 Fairway Drive. I also happen to be the president of our condominium association, Fairway Villas. uh directly behind this proposed uh project. So I'm
um opposed uh to most of this uh for selfish reasons I guess maybe not selfish but also you know the impact on our neighborhood it would be substantial considering this is directly behind half
of our units half of our buildings. So, there's 16 buildings that are on the side that is directly going to be impacted by the building along with the um the open sports courts. Now, nobody has said pickle ball. I don't want to
even go there, but I am concerned because it does say open sports courts and the noise from those um as other members have alluded to has been a concern going forward. Have any um noise
studies been done uh with regards to this? Uh have any plans been done to mitigate that noise? We live in a 100 acre nature preserves. That's what the whole springs is. It's a 100 acre nature preserve for a reason. We have deer and
bear, black bear. We have a lot of natural birds as well as other wildlife in our area. We have cougars, otter, and everything else. um who's going to be displaced, what's going to be done to mitigate that for the our our nature
preserve that we have. Um I understand um development needs to come and uh but I also think it should be more thoughtful and uh something should be um done about those open sports courts. The second concern that I really have is
about the drainage. Now I know y'all said that you have something about that. We haven't heard it yet because we didn't hear about this meeting before. Sorry about that. But um all of our properties drain that
way. So we are um a little bit higher. But if that changes because of this development and the building, especially with regards to the retention pond area, all of that, while they say it's not wetlands, I mean, you can see on the on
the aerial photos that they took in June, it's all wet where they're talking about building those open sports courts. So, what happens to that area? Where's this water going to drain to? I'm concerned that that's going to come draining back to us. We are going to
then be have required to, you know, address that in some way, shape or form so that we don't get flooded out. Like I said, we have half of our units on that side and that could definitely affect, you know, our building very directly.
So, I am opposed to most of this. Oh, the last item I wanted to mention was the traffic that somebody else had brought up. you can barely get out of the Publix to get out onto Akiva Road after three o'clock in the afternoon. Um, so that's not going to get any
better, even if they have a a a light or a turn lane or whatever from putting something else in. Thank you very much. Thank you. This one is not oral comments. So,
I'll just pass that around if you want to see it real quick. The other way, uh, Sherry Penguin, if you want to come up, six inches. My name is Sher Bwick. I live at 108
Autumn Drive, Longwood 32779. I live in the Springs and I'm actually president of my sub association. There are 10 such subassociations in the Springs like Edna was talking about
Fairway. We have somebody here from Live Oak Village. She's right next to this site plan. My town home association is right across the street. Everybody's listed several concerns,
all of which I agree with. The nature, the beauty that's actually a 400 acre nature preserve is the springs and just the construction alone is going to make a difference. I don't
know if any of that nature and animals will all come back. But my biggest concern is the water. The springs drainage system was established for the most part to be
an engineered system of swells and BMS. So we don't have hardly any underground pipes and things like that like we had where I used to live. And that was all done in conjunction with Semino County and the PUD agreement
that was done in the 70s when the Springs developer was asking for what would satisfy the county to for him to get his vision of the springs. So, it's very important that the nearby properties such as Sable
and Village on the Green retain their own water, especially since the flood zones have apparently changed since inception of all of this work. And just hurricanes since the late 90s.
I don't know how many of you have been involved that long, but water's water's different now. Storms are different now. and we've had a lot of flooding in the springs that I don't think was ever anticipated in the beginning. Climate change.
So, we're very much concerned that any proposal from any nearby properties that's not comprehensive enough to preclude the springs accepting water that is not our own to manage should be reviewed very carefully and reconfigured
to make certain we're not adversely affected. Thank you. Thank you, Asher Wildman. Am I going to get the extra? So, hey, good evening. Asher Wildman. the president of the Springs Community
Association, 400 Woodbridge Road, Longwood, Florida. Um, so a lot of my colleagues here tonight, my neighbors have brought up some interesting points, but there's some things that I think the county is overlooking that I want to present to you. Uh, not only that was provided by our community, but was in fact provided by previous engineers for
Village on the Green. So, my my goal here tonight is really to talk about this drainage concern. We have no issues with Village on the Green. I want to be clear about that. They have been nice neighbors. Uh, however, this is the best comparison I can give you. It's like Charlie Brown. Lucy keeps pulling the football and changing the game on
Charlie. And he gets in the dirt and he kicks and he misses. In 2010, our community did a engineering study on Willow Run, which essentially is the drainage for 40% of our community. Willow Run is supposed to be taking care of the water from the springs, portions
of Springs Landing, and port that's not there, and portions of Stable Point, not Village on the Green, not the golf course. This was done by Harden Engineering in 2010 and a copy was provided to the county in 2010. Also on that photo there, it shows an extension and can we get the photo up of
that of the I've never seen a plat that extends past the 100-year retention pond that you guys included in your photo tonight of what is their property because that's not their property. That's private property.
Also, I do want to make a note this. The reason why there was no public input on May 8th is because not one of myself or my neighbors received a letter to go to public input on May 8th. But yet, we all got the letter to be here tonight.
And we got that letter Monday and Saturday of this past week. So again, very discouraging that this is why you have the turnout you have here tonight, whereas this a lot of this probably could have been avoided had this done in properly and again as good neighbors.
All right, I want to fast forward now to to previous engineers for Village on the Green for the project that they did in 2018. And that excuse me, that's the POD there. So above I believe the property ends right here. I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain
the property line ends where that retention pond ends. And I also have on a third on a hard drive tonight the plas from the chem seminal county property appraiser that shows who owns what lot and where those are. And that's on the thumb drive. But in 2018,
when they were originally doing this expansion, the county recommended that they put in a 25-year retention pond. However, an engineer for the project for them came back and said WGI, who was the engineer at the time, was advised the village on the green
property is landlocked with no adjacent canals or lakes. As a result, the surface water management system for the property must be designed to retain the 100year one-day storm event, which is what they ended up doing and changing. Later in 2019, the same engineer said
storm water runoff from the wet retention area discharges to the small creek and then flows north towards an existing wetland outside the village on the green property. Essentially, the water that we get and behind my
neighbors where Fairway is, all this water from Fairway comes underneath our neighborhood, flows behind Wisteria Drive, right next to the retention pond they put in, and this services literally 40 to 45% of our
neighborhood. Plus, we're getting all the water from Sable, which is who we're supposed to get it from, not Village on the Green. During Hurricane Ian, our neighbors pumped water into our community, from
their retention pond, into our community and Willow Run. I have neighbors here tonight who are a foot away from losing their homes. Is this how it's supposed to be done with Village on the Green? Can I show some photos now, please? And
we did report to the county when the pumping was happened. And I was told, please call us either a in normal operating hours. Well, what good is that if you're pumping during and after a hurricane? So again, we're not anti-development. We
just want to make sure that things are done the right way and it protect our community, which was originally there in 1970s79 again to be the first putt of Semino County. But yet, every time something happens, the burden is on us to figure
out where to put this water. And that is our number one concern for at least why I'm speaking here tonight. And is there a way I can show some of these photos? When I did report the pumping to the county, I was told told to call the sheriff's office. The sheriff's office then said, um, it's a civil matter.
There's nothing criminal. Well, here's the problem with that. Then I was told by the county, call us back when it happens again. Folks, the county is not going to send people out during a hurricane to tell them to put their pumps off. So, what are we supposed to do? because it's shown they've already done it and they have been doing it.
I'm going to keep you, but you you guys can keep the thumb drive. Um, but the other thing that I didn't want to emphasize in my presentation again was who has what parcel, where the water's supposed to go, and what water is supposed to go into Willow Run. And again, I want to emphasize when they did
this project, their own engineers said they needed a one in 100-year event because otherwise that pond would have been a 25-year pond, which is what was proposed tonight. I'm terrified for my community and I'm terrified for my residents because Willow Run, as
mentioned, is the drainage, but more importantly, you're going to hear from other residents who live on Wisteria Drive who live right off the little Wakiva River. They're going to lose their homes. Thank you. Thank you. See, uh, Howard Moss, thank you so much. I appreciate what you
guys do. Serving on a master HOA board, I get how this could be a thankless job. I live at I'm Howard Mass and I live at 247 Crown Oaks Way. That's kind It's not as close as Fairway, but pretty close. When I moved to the Springs, it was because of the mostly because of the
nature preserve. I go on walks throughout the community, see the deer, you know, just the trees. And then when I'm walking, you know, towards like the first run of the circle, I see village on the green. And before I moved in, it used to be all green space. Then they
did all the construction. And you know, it was a change, but this seems like something that's going to affect us a lot more. Now, I second Asher on the water concerns. I mean, what I went down there and saw how they flood our community and
it offended me and I, you know, I I think you have to see I I don't know if you got How many of you have been down to our community? Have you ever been down? Okay. Yeah. It's it's beautiful in my community. I feel so fortunate to live
there. And the people did not sign up for a sports facility that lived around there. They didn't. The people that live by our uh wreck area, they know what they signed up for. We didn't. And then we
had this flooding. We also, another factor is the is that road. Have you ever been down that road that's by that borders our our community? and uh you know 434 it is congested by Sweet Water. I mean it takes during rush hour it can
take like 25 minutes to get out of there. It's absolutely horrendous and I just I don't all my all a lot of residents have called me and normally I don't get as many phone calls. They're scared and they're concerned. And I
don't think Village on the Green can be trusted based on everything that they've done in the past with the drainage. And the people do not want our wildlife disrupted. A couple weeks ago, actually a few months ago, myself and Enda and
another board member were chatting by her pool and there was a bunch of trees out there. It was it was so peaceful and I never knew that part of the Springs existed because I never have gone to the fairway village portions. They do not deserve to have their lives, you know,
disrupted by this. It is not fair. They did not sign up for this for a sports facility for so maybe they can get flood as well. This is not right. And you know, a lot a lot of the residents again
are scared and I I completely oppose that and I hope you all see the people who came out here and I guarantee you if we had more notice, this whole room will be filled up. Please see that. Please see what what our turnout compared to the air items. And please reject this
proposal. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Uh, next up, Anthony Brenda. I think I have it right. That would be great if you could. Yeah. Name and address, please.
Hi, my name is Anthony Renda. I'm at 203 Weeping Elm in Longwood, 32779. I'm the president of Shadowwood Village as a part of the Springs and we are uh one area that has a retention pond built into our community and that retention
pond during hurricanes becomes Lake Shadowwood. So the drainage goes into the area that Asher had indicated and over the years the development around the springs has created more and more water runoff into our area and that is no longer effective. We've done uh
mechanical pumping systems to move water away from that. We've dug uh pits underneath uh what we call Lake Shadowwood, some areas to retain water. And when we get into those heavy storm areas where our community, which is all grading towards PJ on the green and towards the Willow Run, and now we have
the areas around us that are developed, there just simply is not a place for that water to go. And some of my uh fellow residents have made clear claims that we don't have an underground storm water system. It was not built and developed that way. And our significant
concern is drainage. Whether someone wants pickle ball courts or not is of course a concern, but flooding of homes and the insurance damage that that's going to cause is a very real concern. Today in 2022, no luck, huh? Oh, there
you go. So, in 2022, uh, Lake Shadowwood was so flooded that we had water intruding on the homes at the doorstep and in the home, certainly in the garages. In 2024, we had a similar scenario. There are pictures and videos on this thumb drive. Um, the road is
impassable for several days. It is a significant concern. This is a springs concern. I accept that we ourselves have a concern, but any development that does not adequately consider and improve the way that water comes towards the springs really needs to be considered and our
community will take it directly in the shorts if we don't do something smart here. Um I'm not and there's a very good image of a home that is essentially going to have to be gutted, right? I mean that's not positive. So we we have a general concern for drainage. I'm not opposed at all to the village on the
green. I have friends that live there. It's a good community, but they need to treat their neighbors in the right way. And the water is going to get worse if we continue to not pay attention to our inability, our permitted inability to take water from others and not deal with it. We have enough problems within our
own boundaries. So, please take strong consideration to the drainage topic and whatever the rebuttal is, that's great. These are words. These are homes. These are residents. We need to consider that in straight force. Thank you for your help. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, please. I'm sorry. There are some
videos here and you can take my time and Oh no. Take two. Take two. My daughter cuz she dances. She's like, "Mom, you're a mom video. You play where you get the ground." This is on Wisteria, which is directly
adjacent to the area that the retention pond is. Oh, there's a book. There are some of our wildlife in the street. We had a deer have her baby out here and it drowned. There's several in there.
Yeah, I think uh I think we get the idea on that one. Yeah, please and thank you. Take strong consideration. appreciate. Let me see. Uh, this one I'll just pass around. Let me see if there's any more real
quick here. And kind of a hard time reading this one. Um, Deontest M, uh, President at 102 Primrose. Thank you. If you want to come on up while we're
passing this around, my name is Deanna Deanna Sims. I'm at 102 Primrose Drive. I live in the live oak village, which is supposedly got the May mailing. Um, I'm the president of the association there and I'm yielding all of my time to Asher Wildman.
Hello. Again, I just want to include something else that I didn't get in the other previous time. Back when they did their previous expansion, it was also noted with the county there were two things they were going to do. Number one, we will engineer and design the storm water system in a way that does not discharge water onto the adjacent
springs development. That again from their engineer the project in 2018 2017. Number two, the proposed retention area is designed to retain storm water runoff prior to discharging minimal amounts to the north away from the Springs neighborhood. Again, history has
repeated itself. They're giving the water. Now, just to understand, the best analogy I can give, Willow Run is essentially a deli counter. It's waiting its turn to get to the little Waka River. The more up you are, the more backed up it gets. And the more people
are sending to you just makes it overdrive of how much water should get into it. Again, I understand when the community was built, they built it to the plans they were supposed to. The amount of things we've done between dredging Willow Run, uh, taking care of the vegetation that grows in Willow Run,
these are all our expenses as a private HOA, we have to get the bill for. We don't get money from Village on the Green. We don't get it from the county and we don't get it from Sable. Willow Run essentially is at the mercy of the county to make sure that this water, the
amount of water gets to the river in a timely manner that doesn't flood people's homes and more that's not supposed to be there continues to get into Willow Run. And that is kind of what I just hope everybody here understands tonight is that the water has to have a place to go and it has to
get there the right way. And also, it's been noted numerous times and I've had disagreements with the county on this. It sounds like their water is not supposed to come into our community and yet they've been doing it for years. Thank you. All right. Uh next up, Miller 152.
Hello, my name is Greg Miller. I live at 152 Wisteria Drive in the Springs. Um, and I'm just here to underscore the concern about drainage and flooding. I mean, I'm my my lot basically backs up to a village on the green and the Willow
Run run run runs through my backyard and the past two hurricanes, 2022 and 2024, my yard has flooded all the way up to my house. And I'm concerned that uh this construction particularly on the where the amenities building is is a is just
more uh more trouble coming down the road uh in terms of flooding coming down my creek and into my yard. Um this is not a good thing for our neighborhood. I mean, I'm I've been okay so far, but other people further down on
the on the uh on Willow Run have had real damage and uh uh I think the county actually bought up uh one of the lots to keep it from flooding again. And uh this is just not um not acceptable. And I I
really oppose any project uh without any guarantees that we will not get more water and more flooding risk. Uh, I just I just am not convinced right now that this project uh won't cause us more trouble down the line. That's all.
Thank you, Paul. And same name and address, please. Paul Reitis, 123 Wisteria Drive. I have some pictures to show. These were my pictures that were shown earlier, which is uh I have some things to point
out on them. This is a house on 127 Wisteria. As you can see in the last storm, the water came inches from his door. If the water were to be an inch higher, his house would have been flooded. And so any change to the water
in a negative way will impact at least this house if not dozens of other homes in our neighborhood. Next one, please. I've lived there two years and we've seen this condition three times in the last two years. And so this is uh severe
to all of us and the neighbors and uh very scary. Next one, please. Oh, this one you can see the electrical outlet box. All the electrical outlet boxes were covered with water. I don't can't imagine the electrical danger that could cause.
Um, now this one is the bridge that goes next to 112A Wisteria. And you can see two cars have actually stalled in the water. It looks like it's oh just a couple inches, but if you look at the handrails on the bridge, there was
actually 18 inches deep at the bridge. Um, this is a considerable amount of water coming directly from Sable Point and comes through our neighborhood. Next picture, please. Thanks. And this is my beautiful wife. I just threw her
in because she's cute. And if you'll notice, she's ankle deep. The water was coming down Wisteria um like a river down the street. One more picture, please. Is that it?
And this one, this is in front of my house at 123 Wisteria. The water's coming from Sable Point direction onto our property and just it came about a foot from our house. So, six more inches to a foot would we would be water in the
house. So, it's very scary and the water should be going through the willow creek that runs behind our house and it just is where the whole neighborhood was inundated with water. So, in fact, we had fish swimming in our driveway, which
was quite interesting. So, just just concerns sharing my concern visually about why we're so concerned of this project. Thank you. All right, I have um one more here. John Le.
Yeah. Name and address, please. Sure. It's John Lassin. Okay. I live at 2082 Builtmore Point. Uh but I'm an a unit owner in Fairway Villas. Uh unit 116 Fairway Villas. I also serve
with Edno on the board. I'm treasurer for Fairway Villas condominium association. I I'm really just reinforcing what what you the board of the commission have heard this evening uh with regard to the water mitigation
issues. uh it's it's been an ongoing challenge through the years as as has been well documented. Um the other part that I can't emphasize enough is the quality of life aspect aside aside from
the risk that the lack of adequate mitigate water mitigation creates for all the residents in the springs not just fairway villas uh is the quality of life of that's at risk that we have from from excuse me just
from dealing with the water dealing with the development dealing with the whatever the sports complex is going to be. Uh it's very difficult to uh expose our community
to that to that uh just that loss of the quality of life. Uh I don't think anybody from the springs could imagine that that uh there's a sufficient water mitigation
plan at hand. I presume we're going to hear something shortly uh that's going to solve the problem that we've had for years, much much less the problem that's going to be created by this new project
coming through. I'm firmly opposed to it. Um and I'm also one of the ones that didn't get that original letter. U I find it somewhat ironic that uh something was mailed in over two to over 200 residences or addresses and uh no
one's been able to uh come forward and say they got that letter until what Asher pointed out was just a couple of days ago. So I appreciate your consideration. I hope you take the thoughts and well wishes. We're willing to be good
neighbors, but we've got problems that need to be fixed before we can go forward. And it from everything that I'm seeing, it looks like we're looking at just adding more problems to it with this proposal. Thank you very much.
Thank you. All right. So, did I miss anybody? There was a lot of comment cards. Was there any additional ones? Did you fill out a form? Oh, it said uh you didn't want to make an oral comment though.
Oh, I apologize. Did you want to make a No, no, it's okay. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's the one I passed around so everybody could read. Nope. That's fine. All right. Um, seeing no others, I will close public comment.
Um, I think we're going to need probably the applicant to come up. Yeah. Good evening again for the record. McGregor Love. Um, you know, I think the concerns you heard tonight are all very, very legitimate concerns. Clearly, there's a
problem in this area with flooding being kind of the most dire uh concern. There was also concerns related to to traffic, the character of the community, the environment. All of these are perfectly legitimate concerns. I think what
separates this development from other developments, green field developments, is that this is an infill redevelopment of a very intense intensely developed parcel. Again, this is over 67,000
square ft of commercial building on this parcel. Uh that's subject to this request. uh we have to adhere to the 25% open space requirement the uh requirement under code for imperous
surface area and and it's sort of small in the image on the screen here and I don't know whether staff if you have an image an aerial image of just the the subject property or can zoom in on that one uh but you could never and this is
the proposed concept plan you could never develop the the subject parcel the way that they developed it in 1983 because there's far far too much impervious surface area. Um and and Mr. Renda um uh Anthony Renda mentioned
something during his discussion that it should be incumbent upon developers to actually improve uh the the drainage issue that they are experiencing. uh there will be significantly more pvious area and the main contributing factor
that one parcel has to another for uh storm water runoff is imperous surface. There will be a substantial reduction in imperous surface. I'm going to have our engineer go into more detail about that because again I'm I'm just the lawyer.
But but that is um there should be there should be an improvement in storm water runoff that's caused by this parcel um because I can't make any supposition about what's causing the current condition. All I can say is that this parcel's contribution to that issue
should be reduced and and you can talk to our engineer about that. But again, you know, to the to the traffic issue, uh, and staff put it in their staff report. The current use at its current buildout generates around 119 p.m. peak
hour trips. This proposed use generates 20. So that that reduction in the impact on the roadway facilities is is fairly straightforward. Um, and yet we are within the we're kind of a study area.
We are aware of that and as staff noted from a preliminary analysis it does not appear that our plans are going to uh run a foul of any of the standards for setbacks from uh the the carse features. It doesn't appear that there are
wetlands, but those questions actually are answered at final engineering and and the county engineers and and the various departments that review the engineered plans will will have to uh verify that that all those those issues
are being met. But again, this is this is not a green field development. Uh this is not an additional uh and I understand why it's um it's natural to think of an application as a a request to increase the amount of developed
square footage, but this is a reduction. It's a reduction in the existing devel development of this area. Thank you. And I'll call up um our engineer to uh to speak in more detail about the drainage issue. Yeah. Thank you.
Hello, this is Jeff Swisser. I'm with Kimley Horn at 6876 Marwick Lane and that's Orlando 32827. And yes, everything you said was correct. The the the subject site, you can see the the building there, the the rooftop is just massive. You can see it
from the aerial and we're zoomed out really far. So there's a lot of imperous area and the main contributor for runoff from a site is the amount of imperous area that's on the site. So when we start taking away rooftops and taking away a lot of the parking area and we
get more grass in there, uh that helps a lot to uh reduce the the runoff that goes to the uh off the site. And obviously we all have to meet the current that that site is pretty old now has to meet up the new new standards not only for the county standards but also
the water management district. So you know attenuation of the water is very important. Water quality is another one. Uh the the wet ponds that are right adjacent to it. Um obviously we can't we're not going to fill those in. We can't we have we're going to actually
enhance them. But the bottom line here is that the by changing the re the the current plan to the new development plan, we're actually reducing that impervious area and that does help a ton for reducing the water coming off the
site. Thank you. We also have our architect here going to speak to the sports courts. Yeah, that'd be great. That was my next next topic. Yes. So, that was a great point on the sports courts. Um, I'm not sure where
that particular statement or definition came from. We are showing some sports areas. We do have a requirement for some recreational uses. Uh, for any development, you generally create trails and some open space and something for people to do. Um, you know, as far as pickle ball goes, um, you know, our
average age is 83 in our communities. Um, you know, I think more lawn bowling, um, horseshoes. Um, I'm not really sure, but we're willing to work, you know, on the location of that, you know, and we were actually been recently talking about putting it more central to the community. Uh, so I don't believe that
that's going to be an issue for us. Um, currently where we're showing it, we thought it was pretty good, you know, behind all of that undeveloped area. Um, I will point out too because a statement was made earlier that we're going to take away wildlife and and natural areas and ponds and we're doing none of that.
Um, we are concentrated on the area that are paved and the goal here is to get rid of that building, get rid of all that paved area, preserve there's some really nice trees actually in the islands. We're going to save those too. Uh, the goal here is to put back uh
impervious uh or I'm sorry, pvious area and get rid of imperous area just like has been stated by the attorney. Um, you know, I think the other thing that we're going to do is impose uh or start to employ rain gardens, which was a suggestion made by the county. Um, we think those should be in all of our
communities. Um, we should have them all over the place. It would help divert water, contain water, hold water so it stays away from our homes. Uh, that's something we're going to be using widely in this area and start to implement throughout our community. Um, I think water in general has been an issue uh
lately uh for a lot of people. Uh we certainly want to do our part and plan to do our part here. And I think by doing this, we're making that uh that first step. Um if we leave this undeveloped uh or leave it developed the way it is now, the next buyer, the next person that comes is going to basically
leave it as a commercial use and they can uh that isn't going to do anything to help our water situation. I think what we're doing and proposing here is the right steps uh to helping both our neighborhood and our adjacent neighbors. Um, and again, we we'd be willing to work on the sports piece to this and
would love that input from those neighbors. I I wouldn't want to hear pickle ball in my backyard either. If you have any other questions, we are available. Yeah. Open it up to the board for questions. Any discussion? I think they lowered the air conditioning
temperature. I am. Yes. I for discussion for the definition. So, at this point, obviously, when we get into design, we'll we'll be going through and working with the county on quantifying and doing all the an
analysis for exactly how much water we're actually reducing. But with the uh with the impervious area do with it reducing, you will have water uh reduction that goes to those ponds. And we also have to meet the current
criteria with the water management districts as well as the county to make sure that we're not we're not uh uh making the uh flooding any worse like we have that that's what we have to do. So so all that's going to be done during
during engineering and and during as we get in those in that point. Thanks estimate that we go from however many acres of pavement to less. You don't it's 5% reduction or 40% and and I'll go out and answer that, sir. And the answer is no. And and it's
typ it's not typical at this stage to have exact impervious surface ratio or area calculations. Staff did note in their report that it is a it will be a substantial reduction. Um and and I'm actually don't have this information off hand and perhaps I could put the
development director on the spot here and see if uh what the current u maximum ISR is for uh this subject property. Um that would provide the public with some information regarding um the maximum
imperous surface area that we could have on this property. Um but it will be a reduction uh substantial reduction and you can just plainly see that from the amount of paved surface on the existing site. But I
Why will we never I'm sorry. Um we're going to have to stop the yelling from the audience and I'll I'll explain why. Um it's not on the record because you're not in front of the microphone and we don't know who's yelling. I'll also point out that
this is a recommendation hearing. Um, it will go to the board. Um, the applicant and staff is available. I'm assuming Mr. Love, I'm speaking for you, but they're available to answer questions. So, if you have specific questions that you
want to put in an email, staff can we can provide you with staff's email and they can get answers for you. But we cannot allow yelling from the audience because it's not on the record and everything we do here has to be on the record. So, thank you for your for your understanding. Appreciate it.
And thank you, Na. And I'll I'll re I'll iterate reiterate what you said, which is please do reach out to us and ask questions. We're happy to provide additional information. Thank you, N. Do you have anything else? Yeah, there was just one more question that I marked. I try to write everything
down and mark questions that aren't um answered that that the public asked. And I think the only other question was um they were worried about a left turn lane and a and a light at the entrance. And Mr. Love, I know you spoke about the reduction in the trip count, but maybe
and I don't know if um Mr. Gomez or the engineer would be better to answer this, but maybe explaining how a light is put in and then it must meet certain warrants by FDOT before one can be put in the Yeah, that is correct. But I think I'll go ahead and defer to the engineer
or you want to speak to it? Yeah, I think we'll start. You know, right now we have one entrance um you know to the entire community. Um, we are adding 40 homes to this, but this is a large community and that one entrance does not have a substantial impact on
traffic right now. I don't believe that we have issues with it backing up. Uh, that being said, having a second entrance makes a lot of sense for safety purposes. Um, you know, getting emergency vehicles in and out. Um, you know, people getting egress in and out if there's an accident on one street. So, typically communities um of this
size have two entrances. Um, that's really the the premise here. We totally agree with the backing up aspect and that utilities and traffic have have had concerns over and our our intention would be is to comply with every piece that they would require. Um you know if
we want to extend the right turn lane or have a right acceleration I think that was you know discussed we are open to that. Um in addition to that you know making our throat deeper to make sure there was no cars coming in and off. I also note there was a a comment made
about a left turn. you can't make a left turn there because there's a median. Um, and we would not take a median out because it's a curve. So, there's a right in right out provision in this particular case, which is exactly what you have now. And remember, we're replacing a call center. So, the number
of trips dramatically goes down. And I just would like to make that point again. All of this is reduction, not increase. And very briefly, because I think that the question you were asking was a little bit more specific. Uh but the question uh I believe that one of the members of
the public asked is whether we we want to put in a traffic light uh in a signal warrant analysis has to be done. An applicant can't elect to just put in volunteer to put on a a traffic light on their own. It's not it's not within their authority. Uh so during
engineering if one is found to be needed uh during that signal warrant analysis one will be required and it will be required at the developer's expense. Uh but we can't simply agree to it as a condition because we don't have the authority to do that on our own.
Thank you. And chairman I believe there was one more question that um about the noise from a potential pickle ball court. Um what I heard from the applicant was that there may be opening they may be open to
some conditions on that or some um moving of the court or something like that or could you talk about potential noise mitigation? Sure. And and again, I don't know specifics about exactly what is being proposed or uh whether those courts are
even in in in mind. Uh whether pickle ball courts specifically are in mind. Um, you know, I think that, you know, whatever the whatever the county's sound current sound ordinance is, if it's not sufficient to to sort of
cover noise of this type, we would be um happy to discuss between now and and uh the board of county commissioners a condition that would assure the residents that that there won't be any nuisance noise from the uh the athletic
uh amenity. I'm hesitant to craft one now uh because I think we could work to uh provide a little bit more detail and and make sure we can measure measure twice and cut once on that. Uh but between now and the border county commissioners, we could certainly be happy to work on a condition of that
regard. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to um hear what Joy found out about the maximum allowable impervious area compared with the current impervious area. Hi, good evening. Annie Siloway, principal planner on for the record. Um,
I I cannot state how much existing impervious is out on site, I can state, um, factually that based on, you know, our flu policies that we have in our comp plan, um, the site is in a high recharge area. So, they're limited to 60% of impervious surface for any future
development. and that will be demonstrated at the time of final engineering. Right now, what they're going through is for entitlement purposes only. So, it's for the the reszone purpose. Thank you. Okay.
Is there any other questions from staff? I Well, I I have a question. If this is a recommendation or not, you'll you'll tell me. I hesitant as to advise the commission, the board of commissioners to move do anything and move forward if
the neighbors never received a letter for a meeting. I think many of these concerns can be addressed if we just step back a bit and they can address and once we recommend to I think the staff did a superb job. I'm sure the engineers and Kling Horn have done a great job.
However, there's serious concerns with the neighbors. So, I think if this is all addressed, then the county board of commissioners will have a easier um you know, project in their hands to evaluate and approve. That's just my thought. I think they should have that opportunity
to have all their questions and concerns. So, yeah. Did we ever address um they said they didn't get notified on time? I I can address that. Um Jose G's development services director. So, the community meeting requirement per land development code is for a,000 foot
radius from the property. Um the notices that were sent recently are courtesy notifications that go out to 1500 feet. So that grabbed a lot more residents. So that's where the discrepancy is. But the notices for the community meeting were
sent to within a th00and ft and we do have record of that that's in your packet. Thank you. N Yeah, I I do. So, um, you know, your job is to make a recommendation to the
board. Okay? So, that's your job to to do. That's the hard work that you have to do. And I've told you before in making that recommendation, you can state on the record that you recommend additional conditions go with it. you recommend
that the the applicant, for example, reach out to the community again, maybe to the larger area and and be made available to answer questions and try to work some of these things out. You know, you can add these things with your recommendation to the board. And what we
always do when we present it to the board, we list what your recommendation was and then any comments or concerns or additional conditions that you wanted to put on. So, that is an option for you. Another option could be to potentially table this until the next meeting to
give them time to work out some of these differences. You you can table the item. You would need to continue it to a date certain so that um we have it on the record and don't have to go through the expense of
renoticing. Um, I would suggest that if you do do that that you make very specific the reasons why you're continuing the item and what you want to be done within that period of time because the last thing you want is for it to come back like if you need more
information on something you feel like uh there needs to be additional conditions on X Y and Z you know whatever whatever it is I would suggest that you give um specific direction to staff and the applicant so when when it does come back, you're not kind of going
through the same thing. I'll also note um if you continue the item to a date certain, it leaves the um every all the evidence that was put on the record today and all the public comment is still there. So, when you got to that
meeting, um if there was any public comment on new items that came up, you could allow for that public comment. Um, but the public wouldn't be allowed to the same members of the public wouldn't be allowed to speak again on the same items they already spoke of because we
already have that on the record. So, that's just a little insight as to what you would if there's new things that come up, new condition, something like that, they could speak to that. Um, but it's basically a continuence is is keeping the item open and everything that's been put on the record is still
there at that time. Thanks for the clarification. I think the water issue is the thing that should be clearly addressed and that's but you can't address that until you go to design, right? If we're in discussion, um, you
know, I would say that I'm not sure I'd use the word satisfied, but I believe what we're hearing in terms of this will be a reduction in development. this will be um this will
uh result in less water runoff um than otherwise you know I don't know that that can be quantifi you know in order to be satisfied with that completely I'd want to have it quantified somehow um
but I am somewhat in agreement that uh that maybe what they're suggesting is an improvement um to what's currently there. I have to agree with you, Chrissa, and be and also, you know, less traffic um with it not being a call center, you know, with
with that versus um you know, the residents. I think that that would that would be an improvement. I mean, I'm not in disagreement at all. I agree. I think the project is very smart. I think that the the reality that they're ignorant of all those details
because it was never they were never at a meeting where they can ask questions and answers and have a you know debate or until they feel pleased and well at the end of the day the right of the owner is to do a development right but but I think I'm I'm fully in agreement I
just think that they should if anything to be able to have some conditions saying you know that they have the opportunity to come back can get those. But how do you how do you decide how to word the conditions? I mean, because we really don't know how to do that until
it gets further through the process, right? Um, and you know, and in terms of, you know, even in terms of continuing it and hoping that the applicant and the the neighbors can come to some agreement that everyone's more satisfied with, you know, what is going
to be what will be the nature of that? what could they possibly agree to before they have that information that they get, you know, further down the line. Maybe Tim actually knows more about uh what can be discovered later in the process than I do, but
I don't know that you're going to find any new information by um pushing it aside. No, I know that between now and then there's and there's there's there's there's there's moving on to the next step. There's there's there's there is time to ask questions
and again it's a recommendation based on the zoning. Um and you know there's there's some of this can be refined and and addressed with the board of county commissioners. Um and that's that's the process. That's
why we're here. We're looking at the the the zoning of it. And I I understand the the the uncertainty of some of the design criteria and how you know what you're going to do with the differential between pvious and impervious but is it's definitely going in the right direction.
Um it will not solve um some issues that go back to the 70s. I mean that's just the nature of of everybody trying to coexist today. No, but for this particular small 60acre parcel, it makes it better.
It definitely makes it better than what I see. I also want to um uh just bring up the fact as far as the notification you mentioned well the radius is you know the requirement is a thousand ft or or is that
yes for the community meeting notification it's 1,000 feet and so you did that and then the second goound you did you went and sent them 1500 feet which was above and beyond you know so going back to the notifications well you know they they followed the
requirement and then went back and went above and beyond. So, I just picked that up based on what what you stated. So, I just I didn't know if you because I know that that's one of your hiccups. Um but No, no, no. And I I understand everything has been done. I'm more
concerned about having um chaos at any of the county board of, you know, that the neighborhood is a rage because they're approving something that they like we said here, it's a smarter project. is going to alleiate a lot. If they get
understanding of that, then it's not going to be an issue in the final approval. That's all I'm saying. I think the project is excellent. I'm develop. Thank you. And and if I could I we are sensitive to the fact that that you know, I believe these folks that they did not receive notice at the community meeting. We were frankly surprised that
no one was at the community meeting. Um you know, they may have be just outside the radius, but notwithstanding, they have reasonable questions and uh you know, this is a recommendation. Uh, I think and and Nancy, you can let me know whether this is a uh not necessarily a
condition, but a direction that the planning commission could give us to engage with any additional questions that these folks have. Um, and then the border county commissioners will at a minimum know that you directed us to do that and they should ask us whether that
we've done that in the interim. Um, I I hope that tonight has been informative for the folks here. I know that there are folks who couldn't be here tonight that will have additional questions, but but we will work to answer those questions.
Yeah, I think that'd be an important piece if that if we can make that happen. Yeah, for sure. Either way, sure, you could I mean you could give direction that the um that the applicant work with the community members, maybe get copies
of the everybody that was here tonight if they put their contact information. Mr. Love and his crew could stay after the meeting and I don't know if you have a business card or could hand some things out or coordinate an additional community meeting. I mean, what what
like what are you guys willing to do? We're we're willing to do whatever the community wants us to do. We're we're happy to work with them. I don't um you know, when is the board of county commissioners date? Can we get confirmation of of that? Um just so that I'm aware of the timeline before I
I um so the BC the the BCC meeting is scheduled for September 9th. Okay. You said September 9th. September 9th. Yeah. So we have over uh Yes. over a month to to to engage. And so if the community uh informs us that they'd like
us to host a team's meeting, we'll host a team's meeting, uh we're happy to do that uh in the time that we have between now and the board of county commissioners. Is is there a prior date to get on the agenda or get all the settled prior to the 9th
that the meeting needs to happen before? I don't know what it takes to get get on the agenda or is it 99 as long as everything's settled prior to the meeting? I mean to um so to get things to get like community meeting minutes uploaded, we would need it as soon as possible. There wouldn't be much
I Yeah, I think that what we're we're um discussing here is is just kind of general engagement with the community and the folks that didn't receive notice of the community meeting but received notice for tonight's meeting to answer their questions. It may that may involve
talking to them here uh after this meeting, send responding to their emails. A few of them, you know, may ask us to to to join a team's meeting. Um but it wouldn't be a formal community meeting in the in the traditional sense because one of those has been held, but there are still folks that have
questions that weren't notified of it. Uh so that's that's that would be the intention. I apologize. No, there is no interrupting. There is no interrupting from sorry N
sorry about that public comments are closed so apologize. Um yeah if you can be available for I guess you know answer people's questions that would be that'd be important. I think specifically uh what the directive would include as well would be to try to
get uh some clarification amongst your own team and with the community with regards to what the sports courts really look like because it sounds like there's been some recent discussion, very recent discussion amongst your your team that things might be changing and that might be a moot
point, you know, with them. Yeah, absolutely. And I actually do like the fact if you're willing to stay after and answer any questions. I I really like um you know being able to to have that um as part of one of maybe the
suggestions as well. Um and then having any of your of these you know of y'all's questions answered via email. I think that would be we'll commit to that. Yeah. And then and then I actually do think look we've got you know a little ways a little some time five weeks until
the the next meeting or so not quite um but uh but I think if you can set up a team's meeting say within the next two weeks that gives them look you have the opportunity to answer questions now you can um communicate via email and then
you can set up a team's meeting. So, I think that that gives everybody a fair chance to be able to have their questions answered before um the board of commission meeting. I don't know that we have to include, you know, any of these types of suggestions necessarily,
though. And I'm kind of thinking through this, so for discussion, I'm not sure we need to include any types of those directives in in our motion. uh though because you know if they don't happen and they don't happen to the community satisfaction, they're going to be with
much more notice probably even a lot angrier than they are now at the in front of the the county commission right at that meeting specifically saying look at look at the record you know I mean watch the video of the meeting they were supposed to cooperate communicate and
they didn't right I mean so they're going to so I don't you know I don't know that we have to like nail them down to a team's meeting on such and such a date or within this time. I think that, you know, not either they naturally want to cooperate, you know, or they don't and if they don't, it comes out in front
of the BCC. I I think I think you're right in that um the general direction could be that the applicant engages in community outreach with the residents to try to work on some of their concerns. Um, and that's probably the extent of it. And
then when they get to the board meeting, Mr. love can relay that we got this direction from the planning and zoning board. Here's all the steps we took to do it and I think that's kind of will satisfy um what what you're talking
about here that goes on. Okay, agreed. So, um Natha, I don't think it was you, but somebody substituting for you one night made me read motions like eight times.
You have to read one and two. Read them both. The next question that all of us are going to ask is where would you want that type of directive to be? Okay. So in motion one or motion two.
Okay. So motion one is for the comprehensive plan and comprehensive plan is a legislative action not a quasi judicial action. So I would suggest that motion one just be read as is if that's your intent and then I would say and
after you read motion two and then and then we vote on motion one and then the next motion for motion two you would read that and say with direction to the applicant to engage with the community on the concerns raised at the hearing tonight.
You'll have to read each once. Not according to You got it right the second time. I think I had it right a few of the time. I So, guess we've had discussion. Um,
is there more discussion? U do I get a motion? Why does everybody writing it out? So that because because my memory is shot, you know, if I don't have it written down, I'll make a motion. Go ahead. I'll I'll make a motion um
that the uh board of county commissioners I would recommend the board of county commissioners adopt the proposed smallcale future land use map amendment and concurrent reszone as per the following two motions. Based on staff findings uh uh and the testimony
and evidence received at the hearing in the planning and zoning commission finds the request meets the identified portions of the comprehensive plan and recommends the board adopt the requested smallcale future land use map amendment from highdensity residential to plan
development. Second. I have a motion now. I have a second. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Hearing none. That motion passes. Um I will also uh make a motion to recommend the board of county
commissioners adopt um the proposed uh smallcale future land use map amendment and concurrent reszone as per based on the staff findings and that the testimony and evidence received at this hearing. The planning and zoning commission finds that the request meets
the ident uh identified portions of the seminal county land development code and recommend the board adopt the requested reszone from R3 multiple family dwelling to plan development and approve the associated development order and master development plan. Um provided they that
the developer engage with the community um based on our conversations from tonight. Do I have a second? All those in favor? I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion passes.
Thank you. Thank you. All right. So, we're going to close public hearing. Um, let's see. Is there a director's report? Joey, do you have anything for us tonight for Dary?
Hi. Hey. Good evening, Dagmar Seagar, deputy de deputy development services director. Um, just want to give you some updates on our on the end of the session of the legislative this year. Uh, this session
ended um in at the end of May and we have a couple of few uh Senate bills that just want to bring up to your attention which would affect our land development code and amendments to our comprehensive plan in the future. Um we
have seven uh Senate Bill 180 which is um it it pro um preempts um municipalities to implement any moratoriums or changes to the land development code after uh an emergency
or such as a hurricane. Um so this will affect our land develop uh LDC amendments that we were currently working such as the raw enclaves. So right now we are working with um we're
working on it and we will continue to work towards the sessions evaluating um the impacts of that bill and a presentation right now is scheduled to in front of the board of county commissioners on September 9th. So those amendments are being put on pause until
we we're working with the county attorneys as well to see how we're going to move forward uh on those amendments. Also there were some changes to the live local um act Senate Bill 1730. Um it just refi it refineses it with some
definitions about what PUBS are commercial mixed use industrial and also defines where those leave local uh projects can and cannot be located. One of the additions that one of the important additions that happened in
this bill was the addition of the Wakiva study area to prohibit love live local uh um projects in this area. Um also it allows for the uh development
of live locals on um rel religious institutions. So if a church owns a big parcel and they wish to partner with a developer and build a lift local project now they will be able to do so.
um under some uh criterias of course. Um there's also Senate Bill 1080 which it um enforces some deadlines and penalties if the county doesn't meet them in regards to development approvals.
Um the seven bill 784 which is our platting. It pretty much um mandates the municipality to pl be administratively approved without public hearings. We are currently working on a process
um to implement that approval. Well, we're going to bring that before the board. Yeah. And that Yeah, I was going to Would those come to us? Yeah. Yeah. So, um, so let me just back up as it pertains to
Senate Bill 180. I don't know if you guys have heard about it. You probably have. It's been a lot on the news, but what the what the legislature did was say anyone in the state within a 100 miles of these nametor storms, which is the entire state, um is prohibited from
adopting comprehensive plan amendments or land development code regulations that are more restrictive or burdensome. There's no definition for restrictive or burdensome. Um, and that prohibition is in effect currently until 2027.
So, we are going over all of our planned land development code amendments and the rural enclave. You know, we were doing this rural enclave study, which is now um not going to move forward at this time. We have the study completed, but um we are going through the land development code amendments we've been
working on to make sure that we're not potentially violating this um ambiguous terminology. So that we're doing the best we can on that. Um, as it pertains to the um, as it pertains to the changes to the
platting statute, um, that does require administrative approval, but the section of the statute that allows for the county to have its own process for plats was not changed. So our planning process requires plats to go to the board of
county commissioners. So the option for them to be approved administratively would be done will be presented to the board of county commissioners and if they agree and want to remove um the requirement that plats go to the board
of county commissioners they will make the decision to do they will direct staff as to how they want the amendments prepared as it pertains to that specifically. There's other changes that we've had to implement in that statute and also in our land development code changes that we're working on. That's
where we would do it as as it pertains to plotting because we have a couple other changes that we want to make. Just like clarifications on what's required, what we require now, but put it in the code. So, I think that was it. Sorry, I didn't mean to
jump in there and tag Marie, but No, no, that's fine. Um and then also there is Senate Bill 954 about certified recovery residents which now there will be allowed on on multifamily zones and
and as Nissa mentioned uh we those there's some of those um bills that will require amendments to our land development code and or comprehensive plan and those will be moving forward um as we work through them as as Nissa
said. Um, just a quick update about what's going on with the school capital improvement plan and the adding of the micro microtransit to the transportation element and the CIP element. Currently, these are scheduled to go in front of this board next month and September the
uh 3rd and in front of the board of county commissioners on September 23rd for trans middle. And that if I could just jump in that um capital improvement element change required is because we've had this interlocal agreement that was never
signed by all cities and it just got signed by the last remaining city um you know a number of months ago. So when it was fully executed that put into effect all these things for us to do and one of them is to make amendments to the comprehensive plan and the deadline for
that's I think October 28th. So, we've we've done we we were waiting for the school district to provide us with their um capital improvement element. And now that we have it, we can move forward with those require those amendments that
are required pursuant to the interlocal agreement. And that's it. That's all I have to report. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to answer. Questions? Any questions from the board? Any other discussions? All right. me in a journ.
Thank you.