cloud. So, we've got a few things on the agenda here. Um, first of all, the the um minutes from the previous meeting, and we have a motion and a second to
either uh accept them or change them. I'll move it. >> Do I hear a second? A second. Norine. >> Okay. All in favor? Arlene, >> yes. >> Norine, >> yes. >> Garrett,
>> yes. >> Cat, yes. Okay, there we go. Um, okay. There is, this has been on the agenda for a couple times. It's it's a small matter. Over on West Pelum Road,
there is a new system going in. All new construction there. It's um it's number T 117 on the map and parcel, but um I haven't actually figured out quite where it is. John Seruda is doing
the design under the direction of Kathy Bridges and um we haven't had a plan review yet, but um Mike Thorough is reviewing it. And I wonder if you are willing for me to issue this permit once
Mike has um given his okay. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Discussion. >> Hearing none. We'll vote. Arlene. >> Yes. >> Meen. Yes, >> Garrett. >> Yes.
>> Yeah. Yes. Okay. Now, important things. Um, I expect to receive an outofse beaver trapping permit application from the
highway department um in the near future. Um, and those are very timesensitive. That's why I'm bringing it up even though I have not received it yet. I attended a meeting um last week I guess with um
there was the town administrator, there was Mark Rivers for Elwack, there was me obviously um there was Howard um Kinder the Damkeeper and there was Kevin Williams who is the person in charge of
Pine Brook Camp. And um the reason he was there is that um the thinking is if they want us to keep the covert open for navigation um in other words not put some kind of a
water flow control device in it um then we would like them to help pay for it pay for whatever the solution will be and they and Kevin said that they were able to do that last year. Last year we
received a a permit application for the use of a conne which is a body holding trap. It's much smaller than the big box traps that are normally used. And um because of a reg a
referendum question um years ago, quite a few years ago, those are technically illegal unless there is an emergency. And last year we said you haven't shown that there's an emergency and we turned them down. The result of this was that
was basically nothing because nothing happened. They didn't have a trapper who could who could do the job um with box traps. And so the problem is just getting worse. It is probably it's not doing the culvert any favors. The covert
is already it did not get a passing grade from whatever state um agency grades them. Um it's visibly apparently I I haven't seen it myself. The the sections of it are visibly sort of
opening up and uh and everybody knows that there's stones falling out of the wall. Um, and the dam is huge and it's uh the water level on the two sides and it's completely blocking the water flow into
the lake. Right? For a while, last year water was going over the top and that was that was okay, but this year it water is not coming in. So, so the trapper that Dave talked to last
year and he's trying to find him again and also Kevin Williams knows somebody so he's trying to find somebody too. The reason you probably remember this way back in history um there was a there
was that referendum question to ban county beer traps because they were said to be cruel. Um, and I voted for it actually. Um, but what Dave described to me does not
really sound any worse than the actual box trap because they uh they get trapped in those box traps and either they drown in there before before um they come back to enter the trap trap or somebody goes and springs the trap
before a beaver can get into it. and makes it useless. Um, see, I lost my my train of thought. Or the beaver is alive when they come to catch it and then they have to shoot it
on site. Um, which is extremely disturbing to anybody that lives nearby. The coner trap is a much smaller thing and it's a closer, tighter thing. They put it
basically they shove it right into the dam itself and when the beavers come to work on the dam they get caught in the trap and it squeezes them and they drown in there the same as they drowned in the other one except that because of the pressure on their lungs they probably
drown faster. They can hold their under normal circumstances they can hold their breath under water for about 15 minutes. Um, this makes it apparently go faster. To me, it sounds like not an issue to
have these connection approaching an emergency and the the cruelty aspect of it does not seem to be at all significant. So,
we would need to declare an emergency. I'm not sure if Concom has to do it also, but we would need to declare an emergency. Um, and then we would upon receiving the application, we could issue a 10day outofse emergency permit
using the Connie chat. May I have your thoughts? Cat, from the meeting that you were at, um, were there between the previous time and and now, were there mitigation measures that were
implemented, non non-lethal mitigation measures? >> I don't think so. I don't think there was anything they could think of to do. Actually, they had they had somebody come in and remove the the dam that was
there, but because no beavers were removed, they just um they just built it right back up again, even bigger. Um the um the plan is to to remove some of the
beavers uh at first and then take the tra the um um the dam down. They can they can possibly borrow something from from lever, a sort of a backho sort of thing that would could reach all the way down from the road
level and pull the pull the uh the dam out. Uh Cat, is is that part of the planning for perhaps a longer term solution since we know this has been going on for the 25 years I've lived there? Well, now
that we have Pinebrook on board, yes. Um, you know, there's no, you know, there's no permanent solution to this. There's an infinite supply of beavers. And if you've been up to Fist Pond recently, they have totally
colonized that and really changed the lay of the land at the at the outflow from the um from the pond. Um the the guy that came in last year said he wanted to set nine traps or didn't come in last year but that Dave was working
with he said he wanted to set nine traps. Um Kevin is interested in setting traps up on his property and he owns or the Camp Pine Brook owns quite a lot of that that marshy area um upstream. Um,
so he would be I think he understands that this will be an ongoing problem and he can take get beavers out this year, but in another year or two or three he's going to have to do it again. Um, the only way this can work for us is
basically if we take the pressure off upstream because they're just being forced down by population pressure toward toward the cover. So in that sense, yeah, um Kevin is
seems committed to um getting the population down and freeing up the water there. >> And so would the applicant be Pine Brook or would it be the town? >> The applicant to us would be the town.
Um Pine Brook would have to apply to the Wendle Conservation Commission. or the window board of health rather the con because they're not be doing the the breach. It seems to me that the damn breach permit
comes from concom where it's very much overlapping. We have to give the out of season trapping permit and declare the emergency. So he'll have to work probably with both of those boards in Wendell.
Would we give him any support in that endeavor, Cat? Since, you know, we we know quite a bit about the history of this situation and, you know, I don't really know what the Wendle board is thinking about. I think there's some
restrictions on their property in terms of not disturbing any natural. There is up I believe that that is true up in the Wendell conservation area around Fiskbrook, but um Pinebrook
apparently owns quite close to Fisk Pond. I don't know exactly where the boundary is, but they can go up fairly high up there. Um what kind of support are you? Well, I was just thinking, you know, would it be helpful if, you know,
I don't know if they've discussed this, but we could offer to uh appear at one of their board meetings or, you know, talk with them if it's helpful. Something like that. That's what I was thinking. >> We certainly could. I there's no reason why we couldn't.
>> Yeah, I think we we have a lot of um interest in trying to make this work and the more parties we have in agreement, the the better off we are. Right? Because if Kevin can't get the permits for his side of the town line, I don't
see how it can possibly work. >> Right. That's that's why I'm suggesting maybe we reach out and offer to um meet with them or talk to them or provide, you know, insight that we might have or experience we might have. >> I'll I'll send an email to Kevin saying that we we would be available to to lend
any kind of kind of support in that way. I think the other part of it for me would be I would like to see more proactive mitigation >> um as opposed to you know in in my brief
time on the board we've had quite a few emergency requests for this um and I' I'd just like to see some more proactive collaboration on mitigation efforts um so that so that we don't reach this
place all the time. >> Do you know what um approaches >> are out there that are that we can use to mitigate? I mean, we we've heard we've heard from residents about, you know, beaver deceivers and and
efforts like that, which it sounds like in this area might require collaboration between Wendell and Shootsbury around uh trying to approach some of this. Mhm.
>> But >> it's possible, Garrett, that um that Pine Brook could use that technology up upstream. It's not really feasible downstream without cutting off
navigation under the under the covert. Mhm. >> I mean that would be the ideal thing obviously but um but you know the the the pressure of the subsequent generations
coming down here really makes it pretty much impossible for us to coexist with such a large number of beavers. I'm not sure how many are active right now, but but it's clear that there are plenty around because the construction they're
doing upstream is just amazing. >> Well, um I'd like to put a motion on the floor. Um I'm I'm thinking the way you are, Katherine. I think we're quickly uh I think this is uh an emergency situation and we we need to take action
now and anything we can do to you know move forward with the other two parties is helpful. So I would move that we declare an emergency uh situation. >> Do I hear a second? >> Second.
Further discussion. >> There's a hand up. K. >> So, so the only thing I would add to that is pending an application. >> Right. >> Well, we can declare an emergency
in any case, right? I mean, we're not that's not taking any action. That's simply saying that the emergency exists. Do you think that we should not declare an emergency until until we receive the application? So, isn't that um isn't that how it
works with board of health authority is that we would first receive an application stating that there's an emergency and then we would review the application and then declare an emergency
based based on the information provided by the applicant. I imagine that the application itself will be pretty um pretty bare bones because basically it just um it just says, you know, there's
a threat. Um but we we we certainly could do that. That would slow things down. What I was hoping we could do is maybe speed things up a little bit because then once we get the um I mean they're still building um once we get
the application once we issue the application or the the permit uh it's only good for 10 days and we can renew it but basically it's meant to be a short term a short-term thing.
>> I have one other comment in that regard. I I believe we have in the past declared an emergency on behalf of the town to go ahead and um you know deconstruct the the beaver dams. So I think some
precedent for declaring an emergency before there's a >> I'm not sure if we have done it before actually receiving a written or not. So, so Garrett, you're saying pending
receipt of an application. Would you want the board to review the the application when we receive it in in a meeting or do you feel that you have enough information now? I just thought in the past that we
had received applications and that that in the way that the statute is written that an application can come from the town or from a private property owner
>> to the board of health outside of trapping season. And so so I I just assumed that we would get an application first. >> I was hoping we would have it by now. Yeah. >> And you know, if if we've done if
there's precedent and we've done this before, um I guess I'm I'm okay with that, but it just seems a little premature if there's not an application. I'm wondering if you when you said that
you wanted to to amend the motion to say um pending receipt of the application. Do does that mean that once we receive the application a of >> an emergency vote would be automatically
applied as a result of our vote tonight or does it mean that we would have to to deliberate again? >> Yeah. So, so you know if if there's an application that comes forward then it makes sense to move forward with declaring an emergency.
But if we're declaring an emergency before there's an application, that seems a little uh seems off to me. >> Okay. Okay. So, so how can we amend this motion to reflect this?
>> I I'll go ahead and withdraw my motion. >> Okay. >> No, no, >> no. And then we can start over. Then we can just start over. It's probably works better. just as simple as you know if an application comes forward I think we can move forward with declaring an emergency
but prior prior to an application declaring an emergency seems >> I get it I see what you mean >> um so I think that we're looking at a
motion to upon receipt of an application to um to agree that we have an emergency here and to presume well that's one thing right about the emergency um
do I hear a motion to that effect so I would move that pending an application for an emergency permit to trap that we would de that the board of health would declare
an emergency to allow for the trapping. >> Okay. >> Based on the circumstances that you've described. >> Okay. Do I hear a second? Second.
All right. Further discussion on this motion. >> All right. Let's vote. >> Uh but prior to the vote, I would acknowledge that Tom has his hand raised. >> I know.
>> Tom, you have the floor. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, I'm the clerk for the board of health and Wendell, and this topic has come up a lot. Um, can am I correct that the emergency
would be the state of the covert and not the access to um people who use the water? I think that it would be because there's no requirement
to keep the culvert open for navigation. >> Okay. Um then I just wanted to I guess reiterate some of the points that have already been made. Um both coming from a board of health perspective and also a resident of
Shootsberry perspective. It is difficult to have to um tell a private land owner potentially that they might not be able to enjoy access that they've had over time. And I would really wish we could find a way for them to have that access.
But for repeated emergencies to be occurring at the same spot is bringing into question whether this really is an emergency or something that is just ongoing and repetitive. Um, so I
I would advocate, I think, for thinking about more permanent ideas like a beaver deceiver, even though it would hinder the access for the private land owner. And there might be a way to um
generate a different way for them to access or there might not. But it's coming across very unclear just to a listener right now about whether this is um
allowing that consideration to >> be more than um emergency at hand the situation of just having um recreational access to that covert. Um, so I just want to urge a lot of caution
in repeatedly giving these uh trapping permits um in a so-called emergency basis because again um it's a predictable matter and therefore it doesn't seem to
count as an emergent matter. Do you and I had a question. Um there was mention that the dam was removed recently. Does anyone know if there was a permit for that removal? Cuz I couldn't find any in the research
I did. >> I I I believe that they were. I I don't have any reason to believe that they were not um behave acting lawfully, but I could not um I couldn't swear to it.
>> Okay. Um, >> this was I believe last year. >> Okay. I thought I'd heard about a removal um this summer as well of the dam. And um it just it it concerns me a lot. There's a lot of time and money
being spent on this. And um my research tells me and looking at the end of Fisk Pond as an example and other beaver deceivers I've seen, they do the job of allowing the water still to flow through the culvert in a safe way that
doesn't hurt the culvert and keeps the lake water quality up and the sacrifice would be the recreational use of that culver. Um it's I grant a tough call and it it's
you know nobody wants to tell Pine Brook Camp um that the Beaver Deceiver is the better choice knowing that it would prevent their recreational access. Um but I just want to urge that that topic remain up there um about considering a
beaver deceiver or something else that doesn't cause this repetitive quote emergency unquote situation. >> Thank you Tom. Thanks. >> All right, we have a motion on the floor to um
to issue an well to declare an emergency upon receipt of an application. Are we ready to vote on that? I just have one other question. Do we need to specify who that application
might come from? I mean, >> the application will come from the town. There's no there's no about it because the town is the owner. >> And do we need to state for the um for the sake of the record um
an application for what? Um fill in the blank. Um, an application >> application for outofse beaver trapping with trap. >> Yeah. Not not specifying the type of trap.
The application would be a more broadly stated trapping out of season, but >> the the I believe that the permit would specify the kind of trap. >> I see. Because because they cannot use that
trap unless they we specifically permit it. >> Oh, I see. >> Okay. That's that's why it's important because otherwise it can't be it can't be used by state law. >> Right. >> And that's why we need an emergency uh
declaration because otherwise they can't use this trap. And it seems that this using this kind of trap is the only way we're going to get this problem taken care of. the problem that's in front of us right now. >> Okay. >> Okay. More discussion on this motion.
>> No. Could could you just repeat the the motion as it stands now, please? C. >> Okay. The motion is to declare an emergency on a beaver related emergency upon
receipt of an application from the town to do outofse beaver trapping at Fisk Cove Fisk stream coververt uh using coner traps. Did I leave anything out?
That that that would be the motion. And I had kind of thought we might have to do two motions, one for the emergency and one for the trap, but it seems like we can do it all in one swell swoop here. >> The other reason I think this makes sense is that once we declare an
emergency that the time starts ticking, right? So, if we don't get an application until later, we might have to go back and do this again.
>> 10 days. >> Yeah, I'm not sure that that is true. Um, the the clock starts ticking when we issue the permit. >> Okay. >> I don't think that it starts ticking when we declare the emergency, but they can be they can happen at the same time.
Basically, >> that makes sense. So basically what I'm asking you to do is authorize me to act on your behalf as if we were having this discussion with an application in front of us since we know what the application is going to say.
Further discussion >> I call for the vote. >> Okay. Are we ready to vote? All right. Norin >> yes. >> Arlene. >> Yes. >> Garrett. >> Yes. >> Cat. Yes. Okay, that motion passes and
uh I will let you know what happens. Last I heard from Dave, he said they were looking for a trapper. So, all right, moving on. Um, I just want to tell you that um,
John Briggs, our mosquito guy, who is in all other respects perfect, neglected to bill us for fiscal 25. >> We So, we've paid fiscal 26, but we haven't paid fiscal 25. And it wasn't discovered, this this problem wasn't
discovered until after the warrant for special town meeting was already closed. So, we're going to have to to um get it on uh annual town meeting as a bill of prior years. So, it's not a big deal. Oh, and there's
another thing about the mosquito control district. There's coming up an opening on the board of it. And Haley, the town administrator, wants to try for that position. and um if she if she applies
for it, I'm not sure how how the person is chosen. Um she would want um a letter of recommendation from the board of health and from the select board. >> I don't know that she has any particular
qualifications, but um but I mean who does? Um, but I think it would be great if we had representation on the board of the mosquito control district. >> I agree with that, Kat, and I think it's quite a good board from what I've heard from some of the previous members. So,
that's Yes, I think we should offer that recommendation. >> Okay. Is that something we need to vote on or just wait until maybe wait until Haley asks us? I I would say wait until she makes that
request. >> Okay. Okay. Just ahead. Oh, so I have Well, let me let me get another small matter out of the way. Um, I I don't know if I'm the right if if this is the right board, but I got a
complaint about um ADA compliance because um at town hall in where the where the lift is on the three small stairs in the by the front door, the town clerk's office has been putting furniture there. They have a little table and they have a
chair and it's been blocking the access to the lift and somebody wanted to use that lift in a wheelchair and furniture had to be moved and stuff. So it was I someone complained to me about it and um so I talked with Brennan who's the
administrative secretary and kind of a guy on the ground doing things and um and said that you know they could have that little table out there as long as it's right smack in front of the um town clerk's door and that they should bring
it in when they're not using it and that the chair should be folded up unless somebody sits. it. Um, so I happened into town hall today and nobody was in the town clerk's office and the table wasn't there and the chair wasn't there. So, so Brennan obviously has taken
action on this. >> Great. Good. >> Is that in fact for us to um to deal with? I've never heard of that being part of the what the a board of health is
charged with. I would imagine that is more the town administrators um would fall more in town admin's lap. But >> well, in any case, Brennan took care of it. And basically I I didn't like order
him to do anything. I just said this this is how it should be in my opinion and this is how you do it. I also suggested you know I don't know if you've been in town hall >> um much recently but they they've been sprucing it up. They're buying different furniture and stuff and they've got a
new system for um for um hybrid meetings and stuff. So they're investing some money in in um making town hall nicer. So, I suggested that they get a Dutch door for the for the town clerk's office so that they don't need a tape. They'll
have a little out there. >> Ju just a quick question. C is is Brennan the clerk from Leopard who's filling in right now? I don't know. >> No, no, he's Brennan is a full-time regular employee and he is doing the job
that um I can't remember that that gal's name. She has they have the office. He's the person in the office opposite the um town administrator's office. >> Oh, like the the administrator's clerk or secretary.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I think I think I think the title is administrative secretary. Um the person who's filling in who's our interim town clerk is Lisa Stratford. >> Okay. Thank you. >> And she is there on Thursdays only. >> Okay. Thank you. >> In case you should date her.
Okay. So, another thing I want to tell you about is the health agent search for the district. Um, we may have a viable candidate. Um, we we put out a an ad
which gave a misleading impression of what this position actually is. made it seem more like an administrative thing than a hands-on out in the woods kind of thing. Um but
ultimately we found someone who does not in fact have any public health experience at all but um has a lot of experience with um occupational safe and health safety and health in um in industrial settings. He seems to know
quite a lot about regulations both in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. He's a local guy from lifelong Orange resident. Um and um so we had an interview this week and um he feels that he can get all
the credentials that he needs to do the jobs that we need him to do um within six months to a year. and uh he really wants this job a lot. So um so there it
is. Uh so what has to happen is the um first of all we're going to see we put out another more um accurate ad. At least I think it's more accurate because I didn't get to write it. Um and um
me so so we're going to look for other candidates, but meanwhile the Irving Board of Health has to recommend the person that is hired because he's an an employee of the town of Irving, right? They cover all the
employee parts of things and we just reimburse them for for services. So, we were asked and we did um vote to um to recommend this guy for the position and they'll vote on it in the Irving Board of Health, but they won't forward that
recommendation until we're sure we're not going to get any more candidates. So, so that's where that is. We may might be getting um a health agent comparatively soon. um he's going to
have to be brought up to speed um both by taking u courses and trainings and also by I think working individually with the town so we can we can tell him what he needs to know. But that's where that is.
Um, we have I guess I had thought that we prepaid for health agent services, but we don't. We we we reimburse. So, we haven't yet actually spent any money for this
half the year that starts um on July 1st. But I have pointed out that we've gone 3 months without services and that we should not be paying for that. >> So
So >> yeah. Uh, Cat, is is Urbing part of Furcog? So that if this individual is hired and needs some help with the um the coursework or has some questions or needs a mentor, would someone from
Furcog be able to mentor him? >> Yeah. what they're talking about is having him shadow like Randy Crocher and um uh and you know take take those trainings and whatever else other trainings and they're going to be talking with Phoebe about it and so on.
But, you know, we can also um we can also do that in our town. If like if like Mike Thorough or Megan Children is going to be um doing a perk test or or some other thing, we can ask this other guy to go with them. And uh he seems
extremely eager to learn. He's probably in his 50s and he'd like to have this job for about 10 years, which would be great. Um and um he's working on a master's degree in some scientific field. I forget what it what it is. So
he's obviously somebody who just wants to keep learning things. >> So he could be good. It'll be it'll be a kind of a slow on board, but uh it it could work out well. So that's where that is. Now, we've been
talking about possibly enacting some regulations, and I think we need to just kind of uh get our feet under us on on this question. Um, first of all, we have to decide what we
are going to regulate, right? We might want to regulate data centers. We might want to regulate battery battery energy storage systems. Those would probably be two separate regulations, but we have to decide,
right, which if I if any or either or both or none, we want to do. Um, and we need to think about some timing. If we want to enact regulations, we would probably want to set some kind of a
timeline. Um, I don't think we're in a position to do that yet. It seems like it might be good for it to happen before town meeting, right? Because we don't have to take our regulations to town meeting. We only have to have a public
hearing to enact a regulation. Um, obviously there are other people we can work with, the planning board, town council, MAHB, there may be other entities that we can work with. Where I thought we might start is I've
sent you all kinds of information that has come flooding in on us from Mike Hugo, from Donna McNichol, from um Wendell, uh all over the place. And I wonder if
we could um commit ourselves to to reading that stuff between now and say two weeks October 22nd so that we can answer some of these questions like what do we want to regulate? >> Right? Does that seem does that seem
reasonable? >> Yes. to me. >> Any uh any any thoughts from Norin or Garrett? >> Uh I I have a comment. I I attempted to read much of that for today. Um the other piece that you didn't mention that
we also got from Mike, I think are draft regulations based on uh what DPH is doing. >> Yeah. >> Uh I I found those um I need some help with those. I I uh
found difficulty kind of uh seeing how they were relevant to um the questions we are faced with with regard to either regulating battery storage centers or um you know making
those decisions and what what needs to be regulated. So I would love to hear from Mike or someone else unless someone else has read them and has more insight than I do. like, you know, >> I have >> I need some help, >> right? I I think we're probably all going to need some help. Um I have not
yet read them in depth and in detail. Um so I can't I couldn't really even advise you on that. But if we could all if we could all try to be prepared for a discussion next time of all the materials that we've received and how
they might be relative to our situation. I think that's that's as much of a starting point as we >> Yes. So am I correct in thinking that this the information we have received is uh contains the
um October 2nd document from Mike Hugo which is titled the MAHB review of Shootsbury data center issues etc. Yeah, >> that's a four-page document.
>> And then there's one from the Wendell >> um the Wendell regulation. Um and that's an eight-page document, right? And then there's something from Donna McNichol, and I don't know how long that is, but I have seen it in my >> Yeah, it's it's a page or two. It's not long. And then I think there is also an
just an email, a less formal email from Mike, but I'm not sure. He asked me um in an email exchange if if it would be useful to have what he called a formal email and that's that's that four-page document that that you
>> I have his emails you I think you've shared those with us so so I'll go back to that as well. >> Okay. Okay. If I find anything else that um that we haven't sent out, I will send it out. But I think I think we all have everything. And >> so four documents to review or whether
emails slashdocuments. Okay. >> Yeah. >> I I have another quick question because I looked at everything except I think you resent to us the Wendle regulation. >> Yeah. >> It didn't pop up with my other the other
three that I did find today. So, I think I do. Do you remember when you sent it or anything like that? >> I'll just I'll just find it and resend it. >> Thank you. >> I'm gonna stop my video because I think I'm freezing up from time to time. So, that's >> dark. Okay.
>> Okay. >> Thank you, Cat. >> Okay. So, I think I'm at the end of my tether my list. Um, do we is there anything else that we
need to discuss tonight? >> Uh, I just have a quick question to Garrett as to what's happening with Mathco in terms of finding a a vendor to help manage >> the situation. Where where are we with that, Garrett?
So the way that they constructed the request for proposals this time was a little bit different uh than probably what you experienced when you were on the um when you were co-chairing MAFco.
So they their procurement officer required them to construct it differently this time because the deliverables were different enough. um that they did it as
two procurements. One for basically like coalition management. Uh so maintaining meetings, you know, putting out notices, uh that sort of thing. And then one
related to an exercise. So they received they they actually received a decent number of proposals for both um and there was a committee of coalition members from MAFCO that met
and reviewed the proposals. I participated in that. I had to um not participate in part of it because one of the applicants I've done contract work for. Um so I had to
step aside from that one. Um but recommendations were made for both coalition management services and exercise services. And
now for COG is going through the process of opening opening up the bids and determining whether or not the recommended proposals are in line with what's available in terms of funding. Um
so my understanding at this point is I think the exercise contract is moving forward but the coalition management you know so sort of the
day-to-day operations um the bids came in much higher than what's available >> um so I'm not sure where they're at with that at this point. >> Thank you.
>> Y >> Garrett, why do we need to outsource the coalition management? >> We don't necessarily. I mean, FCOG can do it. I mean, MAF could just say to
FCOG, we want you to do this. Um, the coalition didn't do that. I mean, they're they're filling in the gap >> for the time being. >> Um, but you know, basically for Cog said,
you know, we're willing to do it, but you can also put it out for bid. >> I see. But all the bids are unacceptably high. >> All of the bids were above um especially the the one that was selected was above
the >> Mhm. um what's available. >> And are these like whole companies that do this or are they individuals or how does it how does it work?
>> So for for both kind of the coalition management stuff and the exercise stuff, uh I would call them, you know, like LLC's, you know, that they're >> more company versus individual. Okay.
That seems that seems kind of over over and above what's needed for sending out meeting notices and so on. >> Agreed. >> Well, but it's not my decision to make
and probably not yours either. Okay. Anything else we need to know from you or anyone else? you will send me the um information the link to the collaborative meeting for 8:30 tomorrow morning.
>> Uh I already did uh >> Oh, you already did. Thank you. >> So, I hope you have it >> to my board of health email or my other. >> I think it's just your regular email. >> I'll check both anyway. Okay. >> Thank you. I'm pretty sure it's your regular email.
>> Okay. Thanks. So, so is everybody getting an email from I guess it's my town government or whatever that's called telling you that there's a meeting and what's on the
agenda and what the link is. >> It comes from whatever it's called the sender always is support at something or other. >> Oh, yeah. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's probably mytown government.org.
I wasn't sure if I was or not, Cat. So, based on what you suggested that we do, I tried to do it earlier this evening and >> uh I had some >> tried to Did you have a problem? >> Yeah, I couldn't. Um it wanted me to to
I had to put my um email in and then change a password and yeah, do some stuff like that. So, I'm not sure if I'm getting it or not, but I did try and go online and follow those steps and >> Okay. >> Because, you know, I don't register to
do it. >> Yeah. >> I don't mind sending out the link, but it never seems to work for you anyway. And um and sometimes I forget until the last minute to send the link and the agenda, but the link and the agenda are available. >> No, it worked tonight. It was simply me
trying to get on an hour early. >> Oh, right. You did say that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, but I did >> Well, I appreciate your eagerness very much. >> Yeah. Wait. >> So, so I'm sure you all know have you've been seeing the town announces about the
flu clinic or the vaccination clinic on uh next next Friday, >> right? Mhm. >> Someone mentioned to me that um they were confused when they went to sign up for it and were sent to a Stop and Shop
um the Stop and Shop pharmacy website. And so I know that in your most recent update you mentioned that it is not that it is being run by Stop and Shop. Um so I hope that takes care of it, but there was confusion on one person's part.
there's been a bunch of confusion. um it wasn't it wasn't smooth and so Sarah did something to to kind of smooth things out and she asked me to post a new >> a new flyer on the um >> on the town website but then I also sent
out the sort of the basics of the information on the town announce >> I haven't seen that flyer yet but um um is is it specified as to whether it is Mona versus Fizer vaccine some people care about that.
>> Uh, let me see. I don't think so, but let me check. Um, >> let's see. >> I will I should take a look at the flyer, too. >> Yeah. Um, okay.
It says they have both. >> Okay, great. Right. And it's it's really it's really complicated. If you look at the flyer, it's got it's got all kinds of different different flu Well, it's got two different flu uh vaccines, but one is
for children. One's for over 12, one's for over 65, and then there's then there's two different COVID vaccines, and there's a whole bunch more stuff. And apparently for a lot of these um uh for especially for children, there's no
pre-registration. They're just walkins. >> Yeah. >> Um is her access to Sarah's um but she's not accessible via the town website. Right. It's just our
information from our page. Um >> right. >> She doesn't have her own Okay, got it. >> Right. Yeah, she doesn't she doesn't have her own >> subset of our website. Okay. Our web So, she just sends me what she wants me to put up there and I and I put it up and
usually I put out a town announce saying it's there because she sends me these flyers and you know you can't put those out in town announce basically the only thing that can go in town is text and links. >> Okay. No. Um, I have one other thing that
reminds me of, Kat, that you you and I talked about and Arlene, you may not need to know for the meeting tomorrow, but um, Sarah's going to the uh, we approved several months ago for her to go to the public health conference and instead of flying, she's going to drive
and so Megan checked in to make sure that we were still willing to help fund her driving as opposed to uh, flying. And Cat said she didn't, you know, see any problem with that. So, >> we have let Megan know, but just in case
it should come up or Megan should ask you tomorrow. >> Okay. All right. >> Right. I figure we said we'd we'd support it to to a limit of $200. And I don't see why we would care how she spends it as long as it's in support of
her going there and doing her presentation. Anything else? It sounds like we're done. Okay, I'm going to pull executive privilege again. I'm going to declare the meeting over. >> Great. Thank you. >> And see you in a couple weeks and we'll
see if we can dig into the regulations question. >> Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Have a good night. >> Thank you. Good night.