WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=OfQ2wguSLP0 NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: OfQ2wguSLP0): - 00:00:02: Meeting Start, Attendance, and Minutes Approval - 00:01:27: Septic System Repair Approval - 36 South Laurel - 00:11:13: Septic System Repair Application - 53 West Pelham - 00:15:43: Title 5 Inspection Failure - 305 West Pelham Road - 00:19:03: Title 5 Report Review - 80 Lake View Road - 00:31:37: Insect-Borne Disease Communication Update and Planning - 00:39:56: Health Inspector Update and Collaborative Meeting - 00:41:34: Mice Disposal Methods and Raptor Food Donations - 00:44:28: Website and Insect-Borne Illness Fact Sheet Revisions - 00:49:16: Adjournment Motion and Meeting Conclusion Part: 1 1 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:18.240 So for the sake of the recording I will say that this is the board of health meeting of May 6, 2026. Um we have a quorum present of um board members including myself, Katherine Hilton, Norin Peas, Arlene Reid and 2 00:00:18.240 --> 00:00:35.840 Garrett Simson. Whim Lavine is absent and in the south of France. And as guests, we have Claire P and we have Linda and Mike Grikco. So before we get to other business, can 3 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:53.520 we just um approve or not the minutes of the previous meeting which was um about April 14th or 15th. >> Move to approve. Garrett 4 00:00:53.520 --> 00:01:10.479 >> second. Arlene. >> Okay. Any discussion? >> No. >> All in favor? >> Arlene? >> Yes. >> Norine? >> I'll just abstain because I wasn't there. >> Okay. 5 00:01:10.479 --> 00:01:27.680 You're allowed to vote anyway, but um >> Well, in that case, >> entirely up to you. >> Superb. Yes, >> Garrett. >> Yes. >> Okay. And Cat, yes. Norin, is that a yes or an abstain? >> That was a yes. 6 00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:48.399 >> Okay. Okay. So, we have the Grios here and they are here about a septic system. I guess this is technically a repair for 36 South Laurel Drive. And this um this 7 00:01:48.399 --> 00:02:01.840 application has a number of local upgrade approvals. Um it's one for the setback set back to the well which is 80 ft, one to the property line which is 8 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:18.720 about 6 1/2 ft and one to wetlands 33 feet. That wetlands one is completely up to concom. it's not it's not for us to um to rule on and so they're they're 9 00:02:18.720 --> 00:02:34.640 kind of next. Um Megan has recommended that we approve it um except for the concom part which is theirs and she has also suggested that we should add the same water testing requirement that we've added on a couple of other systems 10 00:02:34.640 --> 00:02:52.280 recently um which is for colifform and nitrate um to be taken um in August. I think we're saying 15 through 31st. Is that does that sound right? Anybody? 11 00:02:53.440 --> 00:03:15.280 >> I'm sorry. August August 15 to 31. Is that the parameters we've put on this or was it the whole month of August? >> Oh, for the testing for water testing. >> Huh? Let me see if my >> I know we discussed that. I don't 12 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:31.760 remember that we reached a decision about that last time and I don't think it was in the minutes. >> Well, I must have written it on somebody's um >> permit. So, I will just I will just make it match what 13 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:50.560 >> whatever we do. So any any discussion the the I should point out that the reason there are so many local upgrades here is this is an extremely tight extremely steep extremely small property that is basically if I understand it 14 00:03:50.560 --> 00:04:08.640 correctly being totally redone by the Grios. Um, is there do we have any questions, any discussion, anything the Grim Co want to say? >> I just have a quick question because I believe I was away when you last met. 15 00:04:08.640 --> 00:04:24.960 So, this this old system, which I know hasn't been working since I lived there, is in working condition. That's that's pretty that's pretty wondrous. I mean, did you have to do some major things to >> Well, it's it's being replaced. system 16 00:04:24.960 --> 00:04:47.240 is being >> Oh, it's being replaced. Okay, >> that's what this is. This is a replacement and the >> the being makes more sense. Okay. All right. I was like, wow. >> Quite an elaborate project. >> Other discussion, other concerns? 17 00:04:47.280 --> 00:05:03.440 >> No, I think if if Megan is comfortable with it, then I app I feel good about it. Okay. So, I'm suggesting that we need a motion to approve this permit, but to hold on to it as we used to do until 18 00:05:03.440 --> 00:05:22.560 Concom has given its approval, which I'm assuming, Linda, that you've been in touch with Concom and they are expecting this. >> Yes. Um, unfortunately, I think as you know, I've been in and out of the hospital with two knee replacements in 19 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:39.759 the last several months. So, I I haven't really been on site. I'm kind of um >> out of the loop a little bit, but we talked extensively with Concom way back when. Um, this is for anybody else. I know Norin knows the property well, but 20 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:55.680 for anybody else who doesn't, it's a very sloped property. There are no houses around it on that side of South Laurel Drive. It's the only one. And um you're right, the property itself is 21 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:11.600 tiny. >> Yeah, it's less than a quarter acre. >> Yeah. But um the the prior owners um we know the people not the last owner well, but the owners before that well, and they used it extensively as a summer 22 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:29.680 home. um he was amazing that he's the one who built the house and the chimneys and and whatnot. And it it just seems it's right across the street from us and we have family that would love to use it. So, um we're doing everything we possibly can to to squeeze into whatever 23 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:47.120 parameters are allowed so that we can do that. Um I noticed on the on the um the plan that there is a proposed well site. Um have you actually applied yet for a 24 00:06:47.120 --> 00:07:02.479 well permit? >> No, I didn't think so. >> No, we're we're waiting really for you. Um I think the board of health and the conservation commission are are the two most important. The well there's no other wells near it. There's no other 25 00:07:02.479 --> 00:07:18.880 septic tanks near it. So, um I wouldn't think that that would be an issue except to get to it. We're going to have to take a few trees down just to get up there. So, >> but we'll do as little clearing as we possibly can because that's not We're 26 00:07:18.880 --> 00:07:34.479 not looking for a recreational area. We're looking for an area for a small house. >> Right. Right. Right. And uh you you'll want to talk to Concom about that too about the trees >> just in just in case. Um so you know I 27 00:07:34.479 --> 00:07:51.800 mean this isn't your first rodeo as I recall you know to apply to us for a well permit when the time comes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um is there any other discussion we should have about this? 28 00:07:53.599 --> 00:08:10.240 If done, I'll move to approve. >> Okay. Um let's let's be um specific about the motion. We're moving to approve this septic system repair with 29 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:26.479 the local upgrade approvals that are in our power and with a requirement for annual well testing. Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Do I hear a second to this motion? Second, Arlene. >> Okay. 30 00:08:26.479 --> 00:08:46.880 All right. Any further discussion? >> Okay. Shall we vote? Arlene, >> yes. >> Norin, >> yes. >> Garrett, >> yes. >> Cat, yes. So, that is unanimous. I will write the permit and I will 31 00:08:46.880 --> 00:09:03.360 convey it to Linda. And um um actually I won't convey it to Linda. I will write the permit and I will secrete it away and I will let Concom know that we have approved the septic 32 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:18.959 system essentially. But but um we're holding the permit until they have made their decision. Right. And I'm assuming that that's going to just involve um wet wetlands protection during the 33 00:09:18.959 --> 00:09:35.360 construction period, but but I don't know that. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I think we're on their agenda for the 14th. >> Oh, excellent. >> Good. >> Moving right moving right forward. Great. Great. Do you guys have any other 34 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:51.360 questions for us? Grid Coast, >> I don't. And I thank you so much for working with us. We when I did this 30 years ago, Cat, for the well, you know, for the house across the street, which was a burn. >> Yeah. 35 00:09:51.360 --> 00:10:07.440 And uh I mean, what a wonderful, wonderful um place we've got there. And we hope that we're as successful with this one. It's not going to be waterfront, but it'll be a cute little place that family can stay and they'll come across the street to play. >> Um >> sounds great. 36 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:22.720 >> Yeah. Yeah. The only thing that's different this time is we used um Arc, a company that was recommended to us because it's getting harder and harder for me to do all of this stuff. >> And um 37 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:38.880 >> I feel sometimes that I don't really know what they're doing. So, I keep asking questions and anything that appears that you feel is odd, please alert me because I just um I'm kind of leaving it in their hands and praying. 38 00:10:38.880 --> 00:10:55.200 >> Well, our our the person who's acting as our health agent has reviewed the plan and she and she had some questions and concerns and worked it out with with LEC. So, um we have confidence. >> Okay. 39 00:10:55.200 --> 00:11:13.680 >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. All right. Well, thanks everybody. >> Yeah. >> You're very welcome. >> Thank you. We'll sign off. >> Okay. Good. Good night. >> Good night. >> Good night. >> All right. So, that's one thing. I have 40 00:11:13.680 --> 00:11:29.760 a few more things for your consideration. on 53 West Pelum Road, a Barbara of Fukushima. Um she is she has submitted um a repair application for her septic system. And 41 00:11:29.760 --> 00:11:44.880 this is the kind of a weird story. It's all about weird stories tonight. Um two years ago, Alan Weiss drew up a plan for her because she had a title five inspection and it failed. and um I think it was a title five, but in any case, he 42 00:11:44.880 --> 00:11:59.680 drew up the plan, but the plan never got submitted. She kind of she kind of lost the plot. Apparently, there was a lot going on in her life and it wasn't any of it good. Um so this spring she it occurred to her that she should get this 43 00:11:59.680 --> 00:12:18.399 done and um we discovered that the plan had never been reviewed and or permitted or anything. So, we got that underway. And um let me zoom away from you for a second and see. 44 00:12:18.399 --> 00:13:02.880 Megan was was uh reviewing it this afternoon and I'll see if she's completed it. Apparently, she has not. So, um, as as far as I recall, I don't think 45 00:13:02.880 --> 00:13:25.440 there are any local upgrades in this. Let me just check. That's just forget. No, it's all pretty cut and dried. Um, so what I would like you to do is give me 46 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:44.800 authorization to issue this permit once Megan gives it her. Okay. They've already come to they're coming, you know. Well, they never she had a title five and when you fail, you're supposed to fix it within two 47 00:13:44.800 --> 00:14:02.320 years. So, she's coming right up on that. So, this would be the ideal time to do that. So, do we need to vote on that or we just assume? I think we one time voted that we we would do this as a matter of course, >> but 48 00:14:02.320 --> 00:14:18.320 >> I guess we've done this before, given you the okay to um sign off on it once the plan is recommended for approval by our inspector. Okay, just to be just to be 49 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:34.800 um complete about this, I think perhaps we should vote on the actual on issuing the actual permit, right? Vote to approve this application, right? And then the rest of it kind of 50 00:14:34.800 --> 00:14:52.000 goes along with that that I will issue it when when it's ready to be issued. So, do I hear a motion to um approve this application? >> So, uh so moved. >> A second. 51 00:14:52.000 --> 00:15:12.160 >> Second. >> Okay. Any discussion? Any questions or concerns? Hearing none, we can move to a vote. Um all in favor? Norine? >> Yes. >> Arlene. Yes, >> Garrett. 52 00:15:12.160 --> 00:15:27.600 >> Yes, >> Cat. Yes. Okay, I will get that moving as soon as I expect that Megan will probably have that reviewed by tomorrow. She didn't finish it today. All right, I have one more thing to 53 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:43.279 Well, actually, no, I have a lot more things. This This was This is a weird weird uh weird evening. 305 West Palm Road, 54 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:58.560 guy named Scott Gibson. We got a request from Neil Jackson, I guess, Robert Norman, um, for information about the septic system um, in order to do a Title 5 inspection. So, I went looking and I 55 00:15:58.560 --> 00:16:13.920 discovered that there had been a Title 5 inspection in 2008 and that it failed. Um and then nothing else. >> Wow. >> All right. No repair, nothing. And now 56 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:32.560 they are on the on the site. The um Neil Jackson and this guy Robert Norman just who was involved in doing the title five. Neil says it looks like it works to him and he's asked me to send him the um the original design, which I think I 57 00:16:32.560 --> 00:16:49.199 can do. Um, I just don't know what to think about this. Clearly, we did not um we did not follow up. Usually, we don't have to. People fix their septic systems. I think that 58 00:16:49.199 --> 00:17:06.880 the person did a title five, but then didn't sell the house. There may have been a divorce involved. Um, and so he just didn't do anything. Um, at this point I guess whatever they whatever they find 59 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:22.480 is what they find. I mean, we can't we can't like condemn the system because 16 years ago it was failed if it's if it's working now. Although I can hardly imagine such a thing. >> Wow. 60 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:38.799 >> Who failed it? the um the engineer or the uh health officer or the um >> the title five inspector. >> Okay. >> It was Phil from um um Gregs. >> Okay. Huh. 61 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:54.880 >> And it's it seemed unequivocal to me. I looked at the I've looked at the report and it there was like ponding to the surface and and and stuff stuff was actually getting out. Um, it looked like a significant failure. 62 00:17:54.880 --> 00:18:12.720 The uh the owner is surprised. Apparently, he didn't even look at this or, you know, I mean, it was 16 years ago. Who, you know, >> who knows? It's kind of embarrassing for all concerned, but >> but there it is. So, I don't think 63 00:18:12.720 --> 00:18:29.760 there's any action that we need to take right now, unless somebody can think of some. Hm. What was this treat address again? What number? West Pal 305 West Palmer Road. >> Okay. >> And did Gregs inspect it again or someone else kept 64 00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:46.160 >> someone else? It seems like Neil Jackson >> who's an engineer see is apparently doing the um the inspection. >> Okay. >> So, apparently this time he does want to sell the house. So, it should get get 65 00:18:46.160 --> 00:19:03.600 taken care of. Yeah. >> Okay. Okay. Now, for the weirdest thing of all, or the most complicated and puzzling thing of all, um, I have received a title five inspection report 66 00:19:03.600 --> 00:19:19.200 for 80 Lake View Road, which is Debbie Pachanic's house. It's the big yellow house right opposite Kinder Beach. and it's been marked further evaluation need needed by the local approving authority 67 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:35.440 which would be us. Um apparently what she has there is a concrete leeching pit then it's under the driveway. Um it's 68 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:52.880 probably 50 years old. It um is has been described as in decent condition for its age, which isn't very u very encouraging. Um it's under the 69 00:19:52.880 --> 00:20:10.320 driveway, but the inspector says that it doesn't appear to be H20. I don't know what H20 is exactly. is probably the um uh the grade of the concrete, but that's traffic rated, so that it's not necessarily 70 00:20:10.320 --> 00:20:29.440 something that you can drive a lot of traffic over. Obviously, all they can do is go in and out because it's a short driveway. Um he also said that the outlet baffle was still in place, but showing corrosion on the baffle and the tank walls. Um, this leeching pit is 66 71 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:45.840 feet from her well. The tank is 56 feet from the well. The washing machine drains to a dry well, so that's a whole different different story. Um, the water was tested. 72 00:20:45.840 --> 00:21:05.000 Um, it looks to me like I wish we had gotten a little bit more um analysis of the water testing because there were a couple of tests. 73 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:30.880 One is the usual total colithor bacteria and ecoli and those were both absent which is good. But there was also another set of tests for ammonia as nitrogen and nitrate as 74 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:51.520 nitrogen. And so the ammonia as nitrogen is less than the reporting level which is 0.05 05 mg per liter. Nitrate as nitrogen the 75 00:21:51.520 --> 00:22:11.039 reporting level is 001 mg per liter and it seems that they have.14 which looks to me like more than 01. Um the maximum contaminant level is 10. So 76 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:32.799 it's well below the maximum contaminant level. But um and there is no nothing at the action level. So MCL's are enforcable standards, but they 77 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:50.720 are not anywhere near the MCL. So I I guess that this is this is okay for that well. However, where' my note go on this? However, there are four other wells in close 78 00:22:50.720 --> 00:23:05.120 proximity um and they don't have any um or there are four other houses. It looks like and I haven't I have yet to confirm 79 00:23:05.120 --> 00:23:22.880 this. The Hello Bill cottage um apparently shares a well with Jean Decker's house which is the one um what is that westmost of the state 80 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:37.280 beach that there's a well between those two houses that was described as shared and I have no record of any new wells being drilled. So there's one one well for 81 00:23:37.280 --> 00:23:54.799 um for those two places. There is a well the well that's right next to Kinder Beach between Kinder Beach and Hello Bill is apparently in the house. Um and then there is 82 00:23:54.799 --> 00:24:12.320 >> Bill. Is he in the house? Whoa. Yeah, that that that happens a few that a few times around the lake. We've seen that. >> Yeah, I think Teres was in his basement, too. >> Yeah. Yeah, there's a few over that way that are in the basement. Um and then there's John Kinder's Well, which is on 83 00:24:12.320 --> 00:24:31.919 the same side, the up, you know, the not the lake side. >> So, so there's a few things here that are problematic for me. one um this is I feel like this is over my head um that 84 00:24:31.919 --> 00:24:50.000 we need more advice on this and the other is that um I'm a near neighbor we don't have actual abudding property but we're very close neighbors and so I'm I don't feel too comfortable about being closely 85 00:24:50.000 --> 00:25:09.760 involved in this >> um so So, what do you guys think we should do? >> Um, does does Megan have any experience with this? And I mean, this is a really unusual situation with that many wells 86 00:25:09.760 --> 00:25:23.760 in that close proximity. And the nature of the storage pit for this septic is unusual too from my days on this board I 87 00:25:23.760 --> 00:25:40.400 believe. So um I'm thinking as maybe we should consult with Megan or or is one option. Do we hire an engineer ourselves to look at it? >> No, we don't do that for sure. Can I 88 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:56.159 just um address one thing that you just said, Norin? I don't think that this is a holding you you were um you said something that made me think you're thinking of this as like a holding tank, but this is a leech pit, which is 89 00:25:56.159 --> 00:26:12.880 different from a holding tank, >> right? But yeah, but I don't remember a leech pit being and maybe that's one of the older types of so I guess it's a it's considered a septic system. >> It is since it has a leeching pit. 90 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:29.840 >> There are there are a few leeching pits around in fact on the lake here. And basically what it is is a a soil absorption system that is vertical instead of horizontal, right? where you don't have a lot of 91 00:26:29.840 --> 00:26:46.440 horizontal space on your property. Um you can you can dig it down and have the same kind of perforated sides. So >> we have a pit here. 92 00:26:47.360 --> 00:27:08.559 >> That's interesting. So yeah, it does seem to me that under normal circumstances we would turn this over to our agent. >> Right. Right. >> We don't actually have an agent at the moment. >> Right. 93 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:24.320 >> And whether Megan is well enough first in all of this to address the questions here. >> Well, Megan has more resources. I mean, she's got several >> people there who are doing basically the 94 00:27:24.320 --> 00:27:40.000 same things as Mike the thorough and there's some other people who are actually doing this kind of work. Plus, she is she seems to be in constant um communication with something called the training hub. >> Okay. 95 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:56.720 >> Where she gets technical advice. Um, so I can't see who else we could turn to, >> right? >> Really, right? We can consult Megan and ask her what she thinks we should do, 96 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:11.600 >> right? >> Um, and um, I would think that possibly she might come out or she might dispatch somebody to come out and kind of look at the situation and talk to Debbie and so on. 97 00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:28.000 >> Okay. Okay. And I think I noted that the house is for sale. Is there there isn't a sale pending or anything like that that we know? >> No. Okay. >> No, it's only it's only gone up for sale in the last week or two. >> Okay. >> Um Um So, yeah, we're not interrupting 98 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:47.039 anything, but it would be good if she could get it sorted out. >> Yeah, I agree. Especially with all those those wells, you know, so so nearby. >> Yeah. All right. Do we have any other thoughts 99 00:28:47.039 --> 00:29:10.399 about that that I should record? Okay. Hearing none, I'll just I'll just pass this on to Megan and see uh and see what she has to say. I hope that >> with your with your discomfort as a close sort of close neighbor to the 100 00:29:10.399 --> 00:29:28.000 situation. Um it sounds like you do not want to be the main communicator of any decisions to the homeowner. Is that right? Um, I guess I guess I just don't want to have to vote 101 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:44.080 on any particular action. Like if we order correction corrective action seems like something that maybe I shouldn't vote on, >> but I don't I don't mind um communicating with Megan about this and I'll send her I'll send her a copy of 102 00:29:44.080 --> 00:30:01.440 the report. >> Okay. And can you just clarify again or repeat? So there there was some concern about the vault or there is none other than its aging and uh the traffic going over the surface of of the area could 103 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:17.279 potentially be of concern or >> there there was some uh corrosion corrosion on the baffle and tank walls. >> The outlet baffle was still in place, he said. So, decent condition for its age. Um, >> okay. 104 00:30:17.279 --> 00:30:34.000 >> But doesn't appear to be um rated for um vehicular traffic and it's starting to show some corrosion. So, even if the whole thing doesn't have to be changed out, it may be that it's that um some 105 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:50.480 kind of upgrade or repair would be called for. >> Yeah, it it occurs to me I I think Deb's garage is right behind the the driveway, so she's probably driving over it every 106 00:30:50.480 --> 00:31:09.760 day to across. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, yeah. I mean, and so far it's stood up to it because it hasn't collapsed or crumbled or anything, >> right? Somebody came and put a camera 107 00:31:09.760 --> 00:31:37.200 down the pipe to actually inspect the inside. So, anything else on that? All right. I'm going to pass it on to Megan then and and see what she can what she can tell us. The only other thing 108 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:51.919 that I have to talk about is that I haven't done anything and I guess neither is anybody else about insect born disease communication. Um, we talked about updating the website which has not happened yet. Um, we talked about getting Haley to mention it 109 00:31:51.919 --> 00:32:08.320 in the Friday five and we talked about making a handout for town meeting and that could still happen. All of them could still happen. Um um I'm not sure what this handout might 110 00:32:08.320 --> 00:32:29.679 consist of. You guys have any suggestions? Um, I can um just sort of taking a look at DPH's website and seeing what sorts of um they they have 111 00:32:29.679 --> 00:32:46.720 some um sort of handouts. Um I forget what they call them, but around different um disease entities. Oh, >> those fact sheets. >> Excuse me. The >> fact sheets. Yeah, fact sheets. Exactly. That's what we call them. And they may 112 00:32:46.720 --> 00:33:02.880 have one on uh tickborne illnesses and let me look into that and see and maybe it would be >> something we could just use instead of re, you know, reinventing the wheel or use it as a model for something 113 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:21.440 that we want to uh call our own. Um, so let me I'm just looking right now to see if I can >> there's that on Arlene and it occurs to me that we posted signs or we got some signs from the state or someone three or 114 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:38.640 four years ago. >> Yeah. And and so there's probably some pretty good and condensed messages on those as well. And we have some fact sheets on our web page under insect born diseases 115 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:56.799 for both mosquitoes and ticks. >> Are they from DPH? >> Uh let's see. So >> mosquitoes >> under mosquitoes. This looks like something that we probably did. Yeah, this is dated 20 2022. 116 00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:15.599 >> Yikes. >> On mosquitoes. It's probably still accurate. And on tick, it doesn't indicate whether it's from us or from DPH or other, but looks like it might have been something that we put 117 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:36.560 together. Doesn't have a date. >> Okay. Well, maybe we can adapt those or we might want to update especially with the ticks now that this lonear tick is >> Oh, so the the tick the tick one is from uh Andrew Lover. >> He put it he put it together for us. 118 00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:53.119 >> Excellent. >> Oh, yes. >> That's on our page. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, maybe I'll pull some of that stuff and um run off some copies so that we can have it for distribution at a town meeting 119 00:34:53.119 --> 00:35:10.079 >> and we're just going to put it. Is there like a table when people go in to vote or how are we going to >> There's there's a usually a table for informational um stuff that people can pick up. >> Okay. There's the meeting stuff that's 120 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:25.760 pertains specifically to the meeting and then there's other stuff too that that people put out. >> So, a couple of things about this Andrew Lover um uh liar. Um >> he still it still states um if you find 121 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:39.760 ticks and you you can have them tested at UMass, but that is no longer true. They are not doing tick testing. >> Right. I've heard that. So that is not current information. >> Okay. 122 00:35:39.760 --> 00:36:02.079 >> And also it talks about um insecticides um containing DE or some other things but it doesn't say anything about treating clothing with >> peromethine. Okay. Okay. Um Okay. 123 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:19.839 >> So those are Yeah. updates that might be wanted. Um, >> okay. >> And does anybody know is the peromethin treatment still good for a month? >> It's the 124 00:36:19.839 --> 00:36:35.760 >> what it says on the um the various things I've read is it is good for six washings. >> Yeah. Or or I mean like on your boots and stuff. I thought it was a month. I think >> it might be, but I'll I'll 125 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:54.800 find out about it. and and Kad, I was recently thinking about the mosquito control district and are are we still current with them around membership and payment and because we we had that situation a while 126 00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:12.760 back where we had to go >> uh through special town meeting to do a back payment to them. >> Right. As far as I know, I believe that we got that um sorted out. 127 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:31.200 >> I think that was sorted out, but it's more are we now paying as we should annually? >> Well, that's what I mean. I think that started out that that it became an annual annual payment that went to directly the town accountant and she had 128 00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:51.119 my instructions to pay it when it came in. And by the way, did you guys know that um Andrew Lover is now on the mosquito control district board? >> No. >> No, that's great. >> That is great. Okay. So there's some sort of automatic 129 00:37:51.119 --> 00:38:07.359 mechanism that you set up as you recall. Cat, >> I think so. >> Okay. >> I think it's just become a recurrent expense >> that um that when the bill comes in, it gets paid. It doesn't even come to us 130 00:38:07.359 --> 00:38:26.800 anymore, I don't think. >> But I should check. Um, I don't know if they have spent our district budget because Gail Weiss said if we weren't going to 131 00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:42.400 spend it, she could she could spend it on other things, which is, you know, they can redirect that. Um, uh, so if if it hasn't all been spent and we and this hasn't been paid, maybe we can just make that happen. But I will I will follow up 132 00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:59.280 on that on that. >> That's that sort of begs the question for me is how could it possibly all be spent since you know we didn't have the health inspector very long. >> Well be because Gail said that if we if we weren't going to be spending it she could redirect the funds to spend it. 133 00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:15.440 >> Right. Right. No, I agree >> for other town um things. >> Yeah, I agree with that. I'm just saying it couldn't possibly be all spent. So, yes, I'm all for redirecting it, >> right? Well, it it could be all spent, but um depending on what they're trying 134 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:31.680 to trying to buy with it. Um but we can hope not. >> Okay. >> But I'll uh because there is some time because that budget goes through June 30th. So, they might not have spent it all. So, I will check with Gail. She is 135 00:39:31.680 --> 00:39:56.320 probably probably in tomorrow and I'll see if I can reach her and make sure that that is getting paid. All right, that's all I've got. What have you guys got? Anything? 136 00:39:56.320 --> 00:40:13.359 >> I take it there's nothing new. I didn't go to the collaborative meeting, but nothing new on health inspector for us. No updates. Did Did you go cat or did you go Garrett >> to to the >> collaborative? 137 00:40:13.359 --> 00:40:29.839 >> I I went to the meeting, but there la but that was like before our last meeting and I didn't really have anything to >> to report from that. And of course, >> Okay. So, so Megan's still covering for us. Megan and Greenfield are pretty much 138 00:40:29.839 --> 00:40:45.119 covering. >> Yes. Um, I don't know if you heard that that guy that we hired died. >> Yes. I believe you told me. Yes. That's shocking. >> Yeah. 139 00:40:45.119 --> 00:41:00.960 Yeah. He was younger than almost all of us here. Well, not Claire and probably not Garrett either. In fact, I'm sure not Garrett. He's younger than some of us here. or he was >> I just have grayer hair that he did. 140 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:18.079 >> Oh, I thought I thought you were like letting it go blonde or something. Looks It looks good. In any case, >> it's the lighting. >> It's a pleasure now to look at um some actual young faces on this on this instead of the wrinkly old ones that 141 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:34.160 have been at this for so long. Is that your farewell to me, Cat? >> Not hardly. We should have a party. We should have a farewell party for you. >> We should plan that. 142 00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:50.720 >> Let's plan something fun. I think we all need something fun. >> When are you back at the >> Sorry, when are you back at the cottage, Norin? >> We're there. We were there today. And so, bit by bit, we're we're getting it. It's uh excellent. We've taken it back 143 00:41:50.720 --> 00:42:11.520 from the mice. >> I don't um I don't know what you're doing with your mice, but I've been saving mine in the freezer. And >> what? >> Yes. And taking them >> not to eat any ice cream at her house. 144 00:42:11.520 --> 00:42:25.920 >> Yeah. Right. >> I keep them downstairs, the same place I keep the frozen garbage. But um um I heard from Cecilele's daughter that that veterinary practice over there on the 145 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:44.079 other side of Elm Street in in South Deerfield near the near the Cumberland Farms >> that they wanted mice um to feed the raptors that they they get. people bring in their, you know, injured eagles and 146 00:42:44.079 --> 00:43:00.319 stuff that they find and they feed them these mice. >> So, so I think they're still taking them. So, if you catch any mice, you might want to pop them in the freezer in a plastic bag. >> Okay. >> Thanks for your advice. 147 00:43:00.319 --> 00:43:17.280 >> So, Tom Ricardi, Tom Ricardi is coming to do a a presentation at the library. >> Are you gonna bring all your frozen mice in? Well, I'm gonna try to find him and ask him if he wants them. I only have six at the moment, but >> when we catch them, we I just bring them 148 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:32.720 out to the stone wall on the edge of the woods and I put them on top I put it on top of a stone and every single time by the next morning it's gone. >> Oh, yeah. >> That's basically what I do. >> Yeah. 149 00:43:32.720 --> 00:43:47.520 >> Every single time. Well, what I used to do was I would give them what I referred to as a decent Christian burial, which means I threw them in the in the brush pile. But now I'm saving them for saving 150 00:43:47.520 --> 00:44:10.079 them for, you know, eagles and pots that need hospital food. She's crying. No, you're making me laugh. your laughing joy. >> So So that's important her to the board of health, don't you think? 151 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:28.560 >> Yes. >> We'll have to put together a fact sheet, >> right? >> Yeah. >> The mouse fact sheet. >> Yeah. >> All right. All right. Is there anything else we need to talk about? Does anybody have any? 152 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:43.760 >> So I'm just unclear speaking fact sheet about um what we're going to do about revisions. Are we planning on having a handout available for a town meeting? And is um do we want to use that as a 153 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:58.640 platform and make some quick changes to it and just um because I can make those couple of changes and see Well, that sounds good. Let me let me look. 154 00:44:58.640 --> 00:45:20.720 >> Let me look and see what we got. Okay. So, for mosquitoes. Oh, where you going? Um, >> mosquitoes. Yes. Okay. So, there's this section about the 155 00:45:20.720 --> 00:45:35.680 pesticide spraying, the part that begins but. Mhm. >> And that's all that's all kind of moot at this point because I mean at the time we put this on there, we were waiting to 156 00:45:35.680 --> 00:45:54.800 see if we could do the opt out. Um, let me come back here to you. However, I gave up doing that opting out because I found first of all, it's a a lot of work to to do that. And I discovered 157 00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:11.520 that you can opt out for for I guess town and private property, but not for state property. If they want to spray on state property, they can. And that's practically all we have here. It just 158 00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:27.119 doesn't seem like it's worth trouble to do that. So, so I think we can just I'll take that section. I'll go on the website. I'll edit the website and just take out that section about the spraying. 159 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:50.960 >> Okay. >> Yeah. But if you can just if you could take that out and check the links and >> take that out, meaning the the on the 160 00:46:50.960 --> 00:47:07.040 tick page. Are we now talking about the tick? >> I'm on the mosquito page. >> On the mosquito page. >> Yeah. So take out >> take out the section that begins but >> right >> section 161 00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:22.720 >> and then and check the links and um change the date and if you could get that on a single page maybe what we could do and it could be smaller type I think um then maybe what we could do is 162 00:47:22.720 --> 00:47:38.240 have m a mosquito thing on one side and a tick thing on the other side. >> That's good. >> I'll I'll see what I can do. Then I'll run it by you before >> Okay. Okay. No, let me Where did it go? 163 00:47:38.240 --> 00:47:57.440 >> I'll run it by everybody. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And would we need to copy that ourselves too? Probably because >> make you mean in making >> copies. Yeah. Uh >> I can do that up at town hall. >> Okay. All right. Um, 164 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:14.359 okay. So, all right. So, this thing from Andrew. Yeah, this isn't going to work because this thing from Andrew is really long. >> Yeah. >> If we could get that squeezed in some way. 165 00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:38.559 So, that at least Well, let's see. Is it okay? So, this is basically a single sheet, two pages, right? >> Double-sided, >> right? So, we could we'll have to have two. We can't we can't do it on a single sheet, both mosquitoes and ticks. So, 166 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:57.119 don't worry about making the mosquito one shorter. >> Okay. And um there are still tick testing services in the state, but just not at UMass. So I would um update the information there. >> Okay. 167 00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:16.880 >> And add something about peromethine use. >> Yeah, that'd be good. >> Okay. I will spend some time on it. >> Um it probably wouldn't be till Friday that 168 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:35.359 I get to do that. So that's tricky, but Okay. Well, we can we can make that work. >> Okay. >> I move we adjourn. >> I like the way you think. I second that motion. 169 00:49:35.359 --> 00:49:55.599 May I need notes so I can do this properly? Okay. All in favor of adjourning. >> Noren. Yes. since you moved it. Arlene. Yes. >> Garrett. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Cat. Yes. Okay. This was great. 170 00:49:55.599 --> 00:50:07.280 Thank you guys. We will see you on Saturday. >> Saturday. >> Right. Yes. See you then. >> All right. Have a good night. >> Okay. Bye. >> Good night.