WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=QP5HVTE5QOA NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: QP5HVTE5QOA): - 00:00:00: Meeting Start, Introductions, and Old Business Minutes - 00:02:26: Discussion and Vote on 53 West Pelham Septic Compliance - 00:06:10: Title 5 Inspection Results Discussion: 305 West Pelham - 00:13:44: Review of Lake View Drive Title 5 Inspection - 00:16:17: Medical Resources List Discussion for Undocumented People - 00:21:12: Emergency Management Team Updates: Oil Leak, Beavers - 00:26:39: New Board Member Training and Meeting Adjournment - 00:30:47: Future Meeting Dates and Travel Plans Discussion Part: 1 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:16.000 Oh, we've been having a long conversation about mice. Um, >> I'm vacationing. >> It wasn't that long, Cat. >> Well, it was kind of long. Uh, so the recording is on. This is the board of 2 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:32.239 health meeting of uh May 20th, 26. And we are all here plus Claire. >> Um, >> congratulations, Claire. >> Congratulations. What what is the start date for the transition? >> July 1. 3 00:00:32.239 --> 00:00:49.680 >> July 1. Okay. Thank you. >> Right. So, Norine has to come to a few more meetings. >> Uhhuh. >> Before she becomes a free woman. >> I don't have my notebook any longer though. I don't take notes anymore. >> Well, that's a good idea, right? That 4 00:00:49.680 --> 00:01:06.960 would be less useful. How long have you been on the board, Nor? I think 14 or 15 years. >> Yeah. >> Well, it would have to be divisible by three, so it would have to be 15. >> Yeah, I think it's 15. >> Yeah. 5 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:21.360 >> Well, >> I finished someone else's term. As I recall, I was appointed by the select board and I finished someone else's term. >> Jackie K, maybe. >> Yeah, maybe. So, >> maybe. 6 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:37.040 >> Yeah. I don't I don't remember. I don't either. >> Anyway, anyway, let's get on with it here. >> Yeah. >> Um, the minutes of the previous meeting, did I send them out? >> I think so. I think I recall reading them. Yeah. 7 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:53.520 >> Are they okay? >> Yes. >> Problems. >> Shall we approve them? >> Yes. >> Anybody want to move to approve them? Uh, I move to approve the minutes of the 8 00:01:53.520 --> 00:02:10.720 um meeting of May 6th. >> Second. >> Okay. Discussion hearing? None. Let's vote. Whim, >> yes. >> Arlene, >> yes. >> Garrett, 9 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:26.480 >> yes. >> Norine, >> yes. >> And Cat, yes. No surprise there. Um, before I do anything that's actually on the agenda, I got um I got an email just 10 00:02:26.480 --> 00:02:41.680 now from Mike Thorough who's doing our inspection kinds of things and it was about I think let me check the exact address. um 11 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:58.959 53 West Pelum Road. Um there has been a a septic system installation and um Mike wants us to vote to issue the certificate of compliance. 12 00:02:58.959 --> 00:03:14.239 Everybody has signed it except us. We don't usually do this, but since we've been asked to do it, and since we're trying to merge with the collaborative and kind of get into the same way of doing things, I 13 00:03:14.239 --> 00:03:31.360 figured we might as well. So, this is 53 West Palm Road, septic system. Um, it must be a repair since it has a um an address. Do I hear a motion to issue the 14 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:48.799 certificate of compliance on the advice of Mike Thorough acting as our agent? >> So moved. Norine >> second Arlene. >> Okay. Any um any discussion on that 15 00:03:48.799 --> 00:04:04.159 question? >> Just just a question. What is the difference that we're voting to issue the certificate is different from what we usually do. that >> usually I just go ahead and issue the certificate of compliance once um once certain conditions are met. Bill would 16 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:20.160 Bill would have called that acting administratively. So the the designer, the installer um and the agent all sign it and um and then it comes to us, >> right? So, we're doing it after 17 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:35.520 completely after the fact and everybody signs it versus what we were doing before was oftentimes giving you the okay to go ahead and do it. >> Right. This is this has actually been done I think it was done today because Mike was up here today. >> Yeah. I was just trying to clarify the difference. It's 18 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:53.440 >> and in the also to clarify in the past certificates of compliance have been issued by the inspector without a vote of the board. Am I right? >> No. What we have done normally is the board has issued the certificate rather 19 00:04:53.440 --> 00:05:08.720 than the inspector and that go >> that goes back to the days of Charlie Kcki and Bill Elliot and um Charlie was issuing certificates of compliance on our behalf and Bill didn't feel like he was he was checking all the boxes 20 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:23.600 correctly in some way. I think it had to do with the watershed protection act or something. So we took that function back. Okay, >> we've had it ever since, but basically it's just a rubber stamp because we get all these other signatures. 21 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:39.280 >> Um, and so normally because all those conditions are met, I would just go ahead and issue it, >> right? >> Um, >> okay. >> I thought, okay, well, we can vote on this. No problem. >> Yeah. >> So, we haven't voted, right? 22 00:05:39.280 --> 00:05:56.000 >> No, we have have just have the um the motion. This is discussion, >> right? Any further discussion? Hearing none, we will vote. Whim, >> yes. >> Arlene, >> yes. >> Garrett, 23 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:10.400 >> yes. >> Norin, >> yes. >> Cat, yes. Okay, so that's done. So, also on West Palm Road, we have a rather bizarre situation. Number 305. 24 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:29.759 um a guy, I can't remember who it was, some subject system inspector, and I think Neil Jackson was involved in it, and maybe he actually did the the inspection. Anyway, somebody sent me an email, as often happens, it says, "Can that said, what can you what information 25 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:44.720 can you provide about 305 West Palm Road because I'm going to do a Title 5 inspection?" and they are in fact required to to ask us for any information we can we can provide. So I 26 00:06:44.720 --> 00:07:03.440 looked and I found in the database a failed septic system inspection report from 2008 and then nothing else. So we kind of dropped the ball on that and so did they apparently. So, what I've what I've 27 00:07:03.440 --> 00:07:19.680 pieced together is that the family was in the middle of a divorce and presumably there was not a lot of communication and whatnot. In any case, nothing ever happened. So, Neil Jackson comes in now 16 years later, is it 18? I 28 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:36.400 don't know, long time later, and um does a title five inspection and finds that it works fine. >> Wow. I have no idea what to think about that or how it could happen, but possibly. >> Wow. 29 00:07:36.400 --> 00:07:49.680 >> Possibly >> he's the guy I want to hire to inspect my system. >> Right. Right. Um >> Wow. My only guess about this is that 30 00:07:49.680 --> 00:08:06.879 there were sort of local and um uh temporal conditions that >> made that system appear to be in a failing state and then instead of two people or more I don't know if there was a family there was only one person 31 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:22.400 living there and it kind of just >> got over it >> itself. Yeah. However, I told them um that I didn't want to all by myself accept this this inspection report since 32 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:40.880 it's so anomalous and that I wanted to bring it to the board and um and have us all vote on whether or not to accept it. >> Yeah. Yeah. 33 00:08:40.880 --> 00:08:59.120 >> What can you say which inspection is right? >> Well, you know, if one of them happened last year and one of them happened this year, that would be one thing, but that happened in 2008. >> Oh, those years ago. Yeah. >> And so, I mean, a lot of things could have changed and obviously did change 34 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:13.920 >> since then. So, you know, the inspection, the purpose of the inspection report is to tell whether the system works now. >> And it works now. And so I'm inclined to go with it. 35 00:09:13.920 --> 00:09:31.920 >> I am too. Can we have a motion to Is it Well, first of all, before we moved, is there more discussion we want to have about that? >> How do you tell if it doesn't work? Like what are those signs of a failure? 36 00:09:31.920 --> 00:09:50.399 >> Um there they can be um dramatic or not. There there can be backup into the house. There can be ponding where um liquid comes up from the from the se from the leeching field and and breaks 37 00:09:50.399 --> 00:10:07.519 out into the open air. Um they usually uncover the debox and uh inspect it and that can be filled up. Um >> uh and that would be a thing that that part of it might be something that you 38 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:24.880 wouldn't see you know you wouldn't have a dramatic effect right but you would have a system of sort of imminent failure because the debox could be clogged >> and sometimes I think they actually will dig into one of the trenches and and to 39 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:41.040 inspect the trench and see if it's clogged right because if the basically what happens s in the normal course of things is that the the liquid gets washed out into the trenches and and is essentially 40 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:56.320 purified by contact with the soil. But if the system isn't pumped frequently enough, solids can get carried in there and then that clogs it and then >> then you're failed basically. Yeah, >> that's what I was wondering is is if 41 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:12.320 they hadn't done routine maintenance, if maybe that was the failure and then they got back on schedule and target with uh having it pumped and maybe that's why it's 42 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:28.160 now okay. >> That's plausible. >> Yeah, >> perfectly plausible. >> It it's the same uh owner as it was back at the time of the failure. Yes. Okay. >> Yes. There was a couple, maybe a family, I don't know, but one stayed and one 43 00:11:28.160 --> 00:11:44.959 left and so there was less use and uh um just time went by and and the owner seemed quite surprised about this. I think it was one of those things where the maybe the divorcing 44 00:11:44.959 --> 00:12:04.880 couple weren't really communicating. >> Surprised that it passed. No surprised that there was ever um a failed report was unaware of it or claimed to be unaware >> did not know about the failure saying at 45 00:12:04.880 --> 00:12:21.200 least one person living there now is >> was also living there. >> Yes. >> In '08. Okay. >> Yes. Yes. It was a husband and wife and the wife is gone but the husband is still there and now he wants to sell >> and so he >> and he was surprised to hear there was a 46 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:37.519 failure. Okay. >> Yeah. He even asked who had done the inspection. Um he sort of had no idea what it was about because I reached out to him as soon as I found this and asked him. I thought maybe >> maybe they did a repair of some sort and it just didn't get into our records or 47 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:53.120 they did it >> sure >> secretly. But no, no, he had no idea what was going on. >> Interesting. Wow. A self-healing septic system. >> Awesome. >> I like it. >> I like it, too. 48 00:12:53.120 --> 00:13:11.279 >> Yeah. If they could if they could market that, it would be a great >> Sounds like a lucky property. They should uh increase the asking price. >> Yeah. Right. >> Right. >> So, you're okay. I'm okay with 49 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:28.079 I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> I was saying do I hear a motion to accept this? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> Hearing none. Let's vote. Uh Norin seems 50 00:13:28.079 --> 00:13:44.639 to have left the room for a minute. Uh Whim, >> yes. >> Garrett, >> yes. >> Whim, did I just ask you or Arlene. >> Yes, Arlene. >> I'm trying to go in the order of your pictures, but then I got confused. 51 00:13:44.639 --> 00:14:01.360 >> Okay. And Cat. Yes. So, that also is unanimous. Um, speaking of weird Title Five inspections. Um, I we talked last time about the one at 80 Lake View where she has the the 52 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:18.480 leeching pit under the driveway and all that stuff. Um, I only just was able to get that title five inspection to Mike Thorough today. Um, uh, I sent it I copied it and I sent it to Megan, but it didn't arrive and, uh, so he came by and 53 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:35.279 picked it, actually picked it up today. So, we'll be hearing more from them. So, because it's been a little while, I sent a letter to the owner saying that we were we were having it reviewed and it should be considered neither passing or 54 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:51.519 failing at this point because we just don't know. >> So, it's under review? >> Yes. >> Okay. Claire, are you familiar with what we're talking about when we say title five? Okay, great. 55 00:14:51.519 --> 00:15:06.480 Uh um Kat I have a quick quick question because I think we do get records of this too. Do you know if um that system has been cleaned out on a regular basis because that might be helpful information. 56 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:23.279 >> I think so, but I don't know right off the top of my head. >> I think it has been regularly pumped. I you know when I when I look for things in the database then all the different all the different entries show up 57 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:39.120 >> and so I get a sense that of whether they've been doing the pumpouts or not and I think that that is the case. >> Okay. >> I I would think so. I mean >> yeah. Yeah. And um if you remember she's got the the leeching pit that's for the 58 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:54.639 actual septic system and then she's got a separate dry well for the washing machine, >> right? which might might be up in the house or behind the house. >> And is this inspection because of an impending um transfer of title? 59 00:15:54.639 --> 00:16:17.759 >> The house is for sale, but I don't know if there's any action on it. >> Okay. >> So, that's all that's going on with that. Um this thing about medical resources for 60 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:33.759 undocumented people. Um, I've told a couple of you this. I I ran into a former member of the board of health who had an experience seeing seeing people who were apparently undocumented 61 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:49.920 at urgent care. And when they were asked for their, you know, ID and insurance cards and things, there was this all this kind of, oh, I guess I forgot my wallet. I'll come back later. Um, and it was pretty clear to her that these 62 00:16:49.920 --> 00:17:05.600 people didn't have documents and they were afraid. So, she she intercepted them and she gave them directions to the um community health center in um um in Ammerst. But she asked me if there is 63 00:17:05.600 --> 00:17:23.039 not a list of places where people who don't have documents can go. So, so I asked Mag Children if she knew anything about it and she was at that time at some kind of nursing conference and she 64 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:38.320 said she was going to look into it and I assume she did but I haven't heard back from her yet. So, um, I'll keep you posted on that. >> And Okay. So, so assuming that we can lay hands on such a 65 00:17:38.320 --> 00:17:57.440 list, what do you think would be the right use of it? >> I mean, obviously, we want to get it into the hands of the people who would need it. I'm not quite sure how how to do that. 66 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:14.320 >> Well, I think one way is to to make sure Sarah's aware of it. and she may know of some families already that we don't know of. >> Um maybe also make it known to the school, the school nurse, for example. 67 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:32.240 >> Excellent idea. >> Um >> yeah, >> maybe um let Lenny know too. He may come into contact with with families that you know he you know he knows 68 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:49.039 you know, could use some help or use a referral. >> Yeah, that's a that's a good thought. Um, possibly another thing we could do is is sort of publish publish the list on Next Door so that it would be widely available. >> Oh, that's a good idea. That's a really 69 00:18:49.039 --> 00:19:08.720 good idea. >> Make it available to the library. >> Yep. >> The library. Yes, indeed. Good thought. And um someone who who is um lives very close to me and I know very well works 70 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:24.640 in Amoris for the Center for New Americans >> and um I can let her know. Um I don't know that any of her clients is a shoot resident, but I will find out about that. >> Okay. 71 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:42.400 >> Right. Um yeah. And I don't I'm not terribly concerned about, you know, limiting this in any way to Shootsbury residents. I just like to get the >> get the information together and and get it out there. If your if your neighbor um has information about this and maybe 72 00:19:42.400 --> 00:20:02.400 there's a list that Senator New Americans has, >> okay, >> that would be useful. >> I will talk with her about this. Yeah. >> Great. It seems like it's probable that these target organizations 73 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:20.320 uh do their own outreach since that is their mission. I I'd imagine um like the community health center in Greenfield. >> Right. Right. But really I think the more 74 00:20:20.320 --> 00:20:40.799 information that's out there >> Yeah. Oh, it's great. >> The the better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I could I could ask the uh the community health centers if they have if they have more information, but I'll wait and see. I'll I'll get 75 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:57.360 back to Megan. She has not been very responsive in the last few days, and I think she's really overwhelmed. Excuse me. But, uh, I'll see if she if she turned anything up. And if not, maybe I'll put Jackie Catz, who was the person who brought this up, 76 00:20:57.360 --> 00:21:12.799 I'll put her on it and have her make some calls. She seemed to be willing to do that. >> Good. Got to delegate. Um, so 77 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:34.960 do you guys have anything to tell me? Nope. >> No, no updates, no reports, no meetings. Garrett, you must have something to say. I saw you just unmute yourself. >> Yeah, so emergency management team met on Monday and so two items from that 78 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:52.720 that I think are important for us. Uh, one relates to the oil leak at the school. Um and so in the report out um that Haley gave on that, I asked her for an update on 79 00:21:52.720 --> 00:22:08.000 previously there had been conversations around doing offering testing, well testing for uh the neighboring private wells. >> Um and so I asked her for an update on that. The contractors that are doing soil 80 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:26.720 testing and drilling of testing wells related to the oil leak on the school property have said that they want to get uh results back from the testing that they're doing there first before they 81 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:44.000 offer out to the uh neighboring public wells. So that's the update on on that part. Well, wait before you go on to the the next part, does do you have the sense that the idea is if the if the 82 00:22:44.000 --> 00:23:01.360 results are negative on site, they won't um they won't expand their focus and and test other properties. >> That wasn't specifically said, but that is kind of my takeaway. Mhm. >> that if if they didn't see evidence 83 00:23:01.360 --> 00:23:18.000 um from the testing that they were doing that there were issues that they probably wouldn't proceed with offering testing to the neighboring sites or the neighboring wells. >> That seems reasonable. So they're testing the soil and they're testing the 84 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:35.039 old well and the new well on the school site. >> I I believe so. >> Okay. >> Yeah. was my understanding from from that conversation. >> And uh they I think that the uh barrels that they 85 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:50.799 have of the soil that they're going to remove are still there. Um because they wanted to wait to do the additional testing to determine if they needed to do further >> further removal >> removal before they 86 00:23:50.799 --> 00:24:07.200 >> took everything away. You may do it all at once. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um >> so that's for that'll be for the soil testing. >> Yep. >> Uhuh. >> And then the other conversation uh brings us to our favorite topic of 87 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:23.679 beavers. Um, and so there seems to be interest particularly uh by the uh fire chief and police chief to having the board of health and the conservation commission 88 00:24:23.679 --> 00:24:40.559 and emergency management team have a joint meeting just to uh develop a really good understanding of not only the emergency trapping procedures and the permitting process but also conversation with the 89 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:59.679 conservation commission about when and to what degree they have to go to them to remove dams, beaver dams, you know. So if there is the start of a beaver dam, uh do they 90 00:24:59.679 --> 00:25:15.039 need to get conservation commission approval just to go in and remove, you know, seven, eight branches, >> right? Yeah. When is it a pile of sticks and when is it a >> right? Um so there may be a request at 91 00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:31.919 some point for us to meet jointly. >> I think that would be a good idea. >> Yeah. And uh Lenny's also been doing some work around, you know, trying to identify some proactive, you know, so whether it's the beaver 92 00:25:31.919 --> 00:25:48.799 deceivers or other items that can be used to uh so that we don't have to go down this road all the time. I think I heard Howard Kinder say the other day that um the beavers are 93 00:25:48.799 --> 00:26:06.000 being very quiet so far this year. And that may be because um uh so many of them were trapped out upstream in Wendell this winter, but I don't really know how many. 94 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:22.080 >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, who know who who knows how the uh dam work and the lowering of the water is going to impact behavior. So, >> right. There's that. 95 00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:39.919 >> Okay. Well, yeah, I would be happy to to meet with them and kind of get our protocols because everybody everybody always seems kind of surprised >> when this happens. Excellent. Thank you, Garrett. Is there 96 00:26:39.919 --> 00:27:01.440 is there more to tell from anybody? No. Sounds like not. Claire, I don't know if you have to wait until until July 1st. I I don't think you do, but you're going to have to you're going to have to sign a bunch of paperwork and be 97 00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:18.799 given a bunch of paper on on about um open meeting laws and sexual harassment and ethics training and all kinds of stuff. >> So, I've already had to do it. So, I went >> Oh, you already done that? >> Yeah. They um basically told us 98 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:37.679 immediately like, "Hey, I'll be here at this time this week." So last week I went and picked up all the paperwork >> and signed a few forms and I still have to like I I have 30 days within that being sworn in to um do the um 99 00:27:37.679 --> 00:27:54.240 one of the certificates. It might be the uh code of conduct one. There's the sexual harassment one, the code of conduct. There's um reading through the pamphlet on the town moderator information. So, I have all of that. 100 00:27:54.240 --> 00:28:10.559 >> Okay, great. >> Setting up an email. >> Great. >> Right. It works. >> I just haven't gotten to it yet. >> Maybe open. Did you say open meeting law as well? >> I think so. >> That's Yeah, that's another Yeah. >> Yeah. Is that one of those online trainings? I can't remember. 101 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:25.279 >> I can't remember either. >> Yeah, >> they're all online now. >> Yeah, I know. I know the ethics training is. And uh um and I'm way behind on it. I did it and I got almost to the end and it I 102 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:41.919 lost it and somehow and I just haven't come through. >> I might be behind on something too. >> You Well, you know, I I I kind of object to it because it's exactly the same every year. They don't change anything. And do they really think that we've 103 00:28:41.919 --> 00:28:58.720 forgotten >> how to be ethical? >> Yeah. It did seem like the sexual harassment one is extremely outdated. I think it's from 1997. >> Oh my gosh. Wow. >> Ridiculously outdated. Um >> Wow. 104 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:15.679 >> But like we have to do those trainings at work every year as well. So >> yeah. And >> but those get updated. >> So the ones you have you have at work get updated but ours is not. >> Yeah. And does is that is what you have 105 00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:31.600 at work is that generated by the college or does it come from somewhere else? >> I think it's a third party pe uh group that the college works with. >> H oh I wonder why the 106 00:29:31.600 --> 00:29:53.000 Well, I don't know if it's the state or the town that's not being caught up on this. If we ever get a a town clerk, maybe we can find out, but we probably aren't going to find out before that. All right. Anything else we need to talk about? 107 00:29:55.279 --> 00:30:14.399 >> Okay. Well, why don't we adjourn? >> Okay. I'm just >> I'm just going to declare the meeting adjourned at 7:35. >> Okay. And we'll meet again, not until June, right? June 2nd, I think. 108 00:30:14.399 --> 00:30:31.200 Something like that. >> Sure. >> Let me see. Let me check that out. Um, >> I think you're right. >> June 3rd. >> Yeah, June 3rd. >> Is anybody not going to be able to make that meeting? 109 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:47.840 >> I'll be here. Sounds like everybody can be as far as we know right now. All right. Well, I'll see you all then and >> Okay. And maybe we'll plan a party. My favorite agenda item. 110 00:30:47.840 --> 00:31:06.080 >> Right. I am gone from June 19 through July 10th. >> I think just for party planning. >> Okay. Good to know. Anybody else have any travel plans that we should have in 111 00:31:06.080 --> 00:31:22.320 the in the mix? Not that I ever remember. I have to ask every time, >> right? >> It'll actually come up, but I think June 15 or sorry, July 15th for me, the second meeting in July, >> I will be away. 112 00:31:22.320 --> 00:31:41.600 >> Okay. Um, okay. July 15. So it'll be is that the date of it? July 15th, >> I believe. So >> calendar. >> Okay. So let me look at that for a second. So yeah, it's July 1st and July 113 00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:55.919 15th. So presumably we can have those meetings on schedule. Uh sometimes because of the fourth we have to change it. Um and possibly we might change it anyway. 114 00:31:55.919 --> 00:32:12.799 Um depending on what's going on. Mhm. >> Um because we we'll be meeting what the 3rd and the 17th. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see. >> All right. Thank you guys. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. 115 00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:18.480 >> Good night. >> Good night. >> Good night. >> Good night.