##VIDEO ID:R0d8OHaThOw## Frank did you get the A1 did I send you the one you were looking for I did email it uh do Frank at something yeah Frank no I didn't get it yet okay I'll re-email it I don't know what happened I did send it after you left my office the other day Okay um so I'll try sending it again where do you want me to send it just so I don't goof up I just I like that account it's uh I like that all my town stuff in one thing it's uh shs berry. frank. magin MCG i n n know you and okay yeah so it's shuberry Frank dot. Frank doag MCG I NN no you okay so I did send it to the wrong one yeah um yeah that's at.org no that's at Gmail Gmail thank you okay I'll resend it um later and not he Stephen you want to be host wait can you make uh can Frank be made co-host um I don't know I'm not I don't know if I can have three people let's see um if I make you host then you can make Frank co-host do you know how to do that um we have muddled through it in the past so why don't I make you co-host and make Frank host that sounds yeah make Frank I just need I'm the one who shares the spreadsheet um so sure yeah once I make you host Frank I'm out of it okay thank you Gabe yep so you guys should be all set Frank make sure you work before I leave yeah uh you should be able to hit the share yep okay good good there you go okay okay right have a good meeting guys bye you okay okay so I call this meeting to order at 532 and Frank I I figured based on what I just heard that uh yeah Gabe did not send the uh AI minutes to the right address or correct so I didn't get them okay so Jeff update on the uh spear Library roof repair so the contractor arrived last let's see one or two Fridays ago whichever one was even freaking colder than usual and um it was extremely windy but um by the time I left they had replaced five shingles on the north side of the building five shingles that had holes in them and um they were going to check the rest of the shingles on that side of the building and they had also put a um a new copper patch on the Ridge and also um riled any loose or missing Nails along Bridge awesome so I think I think they're done and I've given the bill to uh to Gabe and was the area where they replaced the slates adjoining that other area that had been patched or repaired no it was everywhere it was lot it was spread out across many areas of the roof was there some of the holes in the shingles were an inch in diameter were they from like rocks or something or I don't know well you can get nails uh gradually driving up and popping through I don't again I don't know what caused the holes so did it look like anything was done in the area where the previous repair had been made yeah they they replaced um one or two shingles in that area okay yeah they're going to write a report and give it to us with pictures oh good they haven't done that yet all right well next time there's a a good rain can go up in the attic and see if there's any water in that uh container okay so Frank did you get a chance to take a look at the exit signs no not yet well I was actually um at the fire department more recently uh because I uh was talking to Len about the knoxbox or boxes and um I had made the mistake saying that the town hall had a combo lock it's not Town Hall it's the highway department so they don't need one for the highway department but so what do you mean by combo um if you look at if you go to the fire department the entry door it's got a number of buttons I can't tell you how many I'll just say seven and you set up a combination and you hit the right numbers and it opens the door okay so that's that's what's also on the highway department so the buildings that would need it are four and that's going to be the elementary school town hall the spear library and Old Town Hall okay and um since we're on that you know with Russ's help uh we can probably install those ourselves what are your thoughts I agree so do we um you did the research on that Frank correct yeah there's about there's like the generic and the non generic and it's going to cost I forget what I said $400 to $600 per piece but a lot of times they don't sell them to I have to ask and put an inquiry in I'm GNA ask for a quote now that we know that there's four and ask to quote the town of shuberry yeah because they looks like they go through Distributors who install so if I I'll do that leg workk um and we'll uh we'll go with that so back to the exit signs while I was there I looked above the exit door from the sort of Entry area the common area the front door south facing door and that does not have an illuminated sign it just has a stuck up you know printed you know it's it says Exit so same kind of sign that's over the one back door from the back fire base that you can see so I don't know that that tells us much yeah that doesn't tell us much that just tells us somebody put up a a PL a fake sign yeah because they have to be hooked up to a specific electrical and backup and all that so when the power goes off they automatically go on all right be the requirement Jeff yeah they need they they they're supposed to be self-illuminating and um so if the power goes out they they stay lit and are those um uh signs that say any licensed electrician can install def yeah so we could put that in with our uh electrical impr package upgrad I think the first thing we we should do is try to get the building inspector to tell us where does he want them and to find out if that block door is required yeah yeah we don't want to put the you know we don't want to put the signs in the wrong spot so would that be the um I don't know who that I know somewhere there's a listing for building inspector so does the building inspector cover both residential and Commercial covers it all I'll be meeting with Jim [Music] on third Wednesday or Thursday maybe next week have to look it up I'm the town representative for the Frankland County C blah blah blah building something rather and I could ask him at that point okay about the exit door and where the signs go in the fire department exit door and fire department yep blocked one in the uh rear engine day and I can also ask if he can wants to meet us if he's in that area because I know he's you know there's this as this Jim who's the head guy and then get the other guy's name um who's now fully working as a building inspector um but Jim is the most knowledgeable individual especially when it comes to the town of shuberry he knows all our stupid zoning WS he doesn't like them he'll probably want to they'll meet you at the fire station to see it yeah yeah so he can figure it out right because I would think we would probably need at least three illuminated exits lights two from the apparatus Bay and then one from the main office to the outside so when when you walk out of the apparatus Bay and you go into the offices can you see the the um the front main door from from when you walk out of the apparatus room you're talking about where the uh the three Bay the larger engine area yeah um well there's a a door you have to open at least one door to get from that into I don't know if it's a small room or kind of a hallway to then get into the front room so it sounds so when you walk from the apparatus room into the offices if you can't see that that front entrance exit light you got to have more you'll need more lights directing you to that okay that's why you need the chief or the building inspector to probably walk the building okay yeah because then there's a a single Bay that has a door facing north you know garage door vehicle door and from that there's another little hallway and I don't I didn't look to see if that has any light but um I'm guessing based on what you're saying there probably need to be an exit light there too yeah I really didn't understand your what you were saying in terms of another quarter but but basically you need to be able to let's say that the place is full of smoke you need to be able to see from exit sign to Exit Sign to get you out on a path okay this probably won't be what he requires but nowadays I think for commercial they want an exit side also near the floor an exit l in case you're crawling in case you're crawling interesting but I don't I I don't think it's for every use group okay so Frank you're G to follow talk to Jim at the meeting and all that and I'll ask the right questions and see uh he wants to meet us there um were you able to pursue uh salt shed design and cost at all Frank just the ones I um I looked up online that between you know they have to come up with a size um because they're all over the place and there's all different designs there's some uh block designs you take those concrete blocks and then put it big hoop on top of it um you know a couple hundred, for that one compared to Foundation based ones that between 4 and 600,000 I think we have to ask them how big it should be um and then having said that I'm not an engineer but couldn't they just take that truss roof and add another five feet so the truck can go in there and open up well the the walls would have to be uh raised yeah that's something I mean I mean they they raise uh houses and everything else all the time uh they did that across the street next to you or something they lifted that whole greenhous up on the lake and pour a foundation underneath it and put it back down oh so but that that doesn't that's um that building just has a very large pressure treated posts that go directly into the ground right but I'm saying there maybe we'd hire an engineer to I I'm assuming it's going to be so much more cheaper to uh um raise that roof structure let's say 5T with whatever we need to do engineering and they lift it up build something underneath it plop it back down and it's done and that clears the way the truck goes it's got to be cheaper than 200 to $400,000 for a new salt ship you know there might be another possibility of a a different truss you know they what do you call it um truss they just the regular trusses right yeah possibly a scissors truss yeah you know scissors truss is you the bottom cords are on the slope as well as the top cords I guess the one uh concern is will that will scissor trust pre prevent uh the sidewalls from bowing out push pushing out yes it'll criteria as a regular trust you know like if if it doesn't meet the same criteria just won't pass like they won't sell it to you so what are the side walls of the building down to the well is there slab in there or is it just dirt dirt thought there was a slab in there I could be wrong but I don't think so okay well I'm just wondering if it if it's if it's better just to raise the whole building and then put a con a block foundation around the bottom or a port foundation around the bottom exactly yeah as opposed to messing with the roof yeah raise a whole building pour five foot by two foot thing and let it let those uh timers sit on top of that with the blocking yeah and at that point assuming there's no slab put put a slab so the salt uh that was one of the things I think Dave mentioned is that you know the salt can now permeate into the ground so what protects the slab from the corrosive action of the salt I used to sell uclid products and saiban products and there's a lot of sealers that reflect a lot of salts and a lot of other things and you know when the things crack you do have leakage there um but there's a lot of chemicals that they mix with the concrete or add after the fact to seal and they're penetrating seal so they go in okay well like the real thing is we need more information from the highway people M yeah I guess how many feet more do we need also know the when the trailer comes in and you see all the damage how many more feet you know those 18 Wheel Trailers seem to be standard right well when I was there uh more recently there was just a truck might have been one of the shsb trucks one of the bigger ones and with with that raised it almost touched uh the um the underside of the truss so I would say it's got to go up a good bit for a tractor okay moving on um on anticipated items I uh met with uh stepen smolski and um he had some thoughts about how to um deal with the sign board when we get it back and one of the things that I thought was most useful was his idea is to have the slab um the perimeter of the slab be a little less than the perimeter of the sign board so that water isn't hitting the slab and you know when it's raining and splashing up uh and also that would reduce the amount of water that would actually get on the slab okay interesting but he he doesn't he doesn't have any dimensions of the sign board um so if we wanted to find that out before we get it back we'd have to as you suggested have a road trip and when are we getting it back maybe in the spring I'm not sure uh 25 right I think we'd the uh historic commission would probably have have be the best ones to ask about that and how how heavy is this thing don't know well I'm kind of wondering do we need to do we just do the foundation after the thing gets back well unless we go and see it and get Dimensions I would say you know and uh I think we're going to have to figure out you know the interface because one of the things that He suggests which I think you know we definitely want to do is you don't want it sitting directly on the slab you want it raised slightly above the concrete his his idea is you know an inch so we have to have an attachment some component attached to the slab and I was thinking of thick aluminum angle um because that won't you know rust I mean if we put Steel on there it'll gradually rust and expand and uh eventually become a problem and then have a way to attach work out the detail and how to attach some blocking to the channel and then a method of letting the signboard come down and sit on that and make a couple simple connections just so it can't be uh knocked over or uh BL blown over okay and does that slab have some type of pyramid slope on it so well you know if you if you slope it well first off that would be pretty difficult to do um if you know it's going to be a small slab if you just give it a quarter inch to the foot pitch you know the water is going to drain off of it and given now that it's going to be slightly smaller I don't think a whole lot of water is gonna get on there Anna would you agree it'd be hard to slope a small slab in multiple directions well small is small yeah I'm harder than just doing one slope in One Direction I and as long as there's a side that's like a good side to dump it to I would just pick one side and just do like a single pitch well well um when you say a slab I'm a little confused so I thought it sounds more like what he's ask he's talking about is he he wants a foundation that sticks up above the dirt aways so that the the sign board then could sit down over that right sit over what the concrete yeah no no his you're talking about sm's idea is that the sign board is floating by an inch above the slab but the slab dimensions are smaller than the outside dimensions of the sign board so so if you were looking straight down you wouldn't see the concrete okay we're saying the same thing okay and then are you saying another slab around the outside so that a lawn mower doesn't hit it now okay okay hope that you're using the word slab and I'm going to use the word foundation okay very good right it's up just enough so that the weed whack will go underneath it never hit it that's the theory okay okay maybe maybe uh for a short distance around the perimeter you put gravel oh there he's back to the gravel thing again okay barrier under it he loves that gravel okay I forgot where else do I want gravel everywhere right gravel the world gravel's a growth industry oh is it he must have investments in it must have been around since the Romans okay all my money is okay um I sent an email to uh the CPA regarding that remaining thousand uh at the hsh house project and then $1,000 that was gifted to us for Old Town Hall asking you know that uh those money still be available to us I haven't gotten any kind of reply but I did send that off so I guess unless somebody has [Music] um anything else we can uh get back to signing action levels so do we have a new member for our board um he's been U approved and he's uh currently I think on a skiing trip and he said after that after he comes back he's going to um go and get sworn in so hopefully next meeting okay and just so what I found real quickly online is I think the long trucks are 29 feet high when they dump Sal salt sand or whatever in that building well that's cool so they go 23 feet and maybe what we what this highway department has goes is 19 so yeah so it might be just like putting a foundation and it might be you know easy peasy um not lots of money just have to hire an engineer oh yeah and a surveyor and a surveyor and we'll have to go to concom because we're next to the wetlands probably yeah like across the street yep well Pete spending you know $400,000 on one of those white hooped buildings that look like um I'm sorry I didn't mean to say that out loud but they just drive me nuts the SL the snow flies off of them but they just they they I don't like them in people's driveways I don't like them in town halls or town yards but anyway so we finished the fire department except for what needed to be checked out so this is Highway Department yeah low priority or anticipate I mean a future inspection what's the work that needs to be done based on what I read in the comments I think it's adequately or repaired not adequately yeah good question three repair Tresses they they looked they looked um when I see a lot of fasteners at all the connections um that gives me confidence that somebody was involved you know engineer architect um or trust engineer um so I would say you know I didn't see any stress looks like they've been repaired for a while um I think the only thing is just pay attention to the trust plates because there was looked like more surface corrosion than anything else on some a lot of the trust plates I assume from the salt a monitor yep [Music] monitor monitor okay so on the insulation um in the main building the three Bay building that also has the office um I think at some point put up this reflective material it's almost like a a b you know very thin bubble wrap which say reflecti on it it's like the old duct cover like duct work in that made a good insole for your shoes it was cold yeah actually that's that's what it looked like but I think and and it was very tight fitting you know so I couldn't look up behind it there might be some other insulation but um if anything you know you need to do some say destructive slightly destructive I mean maybe you know cut some things and take a look to figure out if there's more but I don't know that you'd put any more insulation in that building I mean they do have you know they do have heat in there um further further inspection that would be my um that would be my suggestion is that how you spell it oh there's an L I think it's um f l e c iix I don't know I'll uh I'll consult the internet can't say I've seen it in a long time but when you were describing it I it sounded exactly like that yeah r e f l e c t iix r e f I'm sorry L yeah eect eect iix okay good you need an I before the X no e correct Anna yep now you don't need the question mark question I guess I don't know well I mean I don't know the brand name but yeah they used to sell like 4 foot by like 100 something foot rolls that weighed nothing you carry it yourself and yeah you staple it up and you're done and it had a a minimal r factor of seven or eight or something something really thin and small so it was always a question of people putting it tightly on the Ducks and whether it actually needed the airspace to meet that r value and blah blah blah monitor okay say further inspection further thank you moist your no concerns Monitor and all these things you're talking about were the where are we in in this building are we talking just the heated part of the building yeah well if you look at say uh under attic see where it say Framing and then I have one two three four so four different locations and then you know if you go to sheathing one two three four it's all pearlins so there are four four different areas okay so then you know insulation the only there are only two areas that had any insulation what do we do for infant for mice monitor or I don't think there's much you can do in the highway department we just keep on monitoring it and see how it C get a cat okay we'll be right back functional doors monitor monitor on the Windows is this a non- applicable or um yeah yeah if there isn't any right oh I'm I'm not suspecting any I mean there's I don't think there's anything that's really painted unless it's got a factory paint you didn't go tasting well I licked it but oh good tasted dust you're still here so that tells us something actually on the um on mold I mean there's there's mold there so I don't I mean you know I I describe how to how to clean it this is from an old uh the further inspection was there before Oh God I then we leave that because it'll just always go in if it the mold no I wouldn't well why you want further inspection required is it all gone no so what would you want to do with it uh it's either priority high or priority low okay priority low no okay that's what I think we put in other Lo where there's been a little bit okay I think priority high for this one hang on um go to where the garage doors are yep okay um so where you have the further inspection required now I have those filled in what's that mean no I haven't filled in well there was no comment before and that's why PR INSP okay so those three yellow further inspection required comments can be changed to monitor because they're functional I think so now on the um the garage doors so the two of the doors have a safety reverse feat F the East St doesn't and then all of the um the eyes are mounted between 14 and 24 in above the slab and I don't know if it's different in commercial but in residential it's not they're not supposed to be mounted any higher than 6 in so that's either uh priority low or priority already high in my opinion that I would go with high since it's a safety issue right so I think on 1.2 I think that can be changed to monitor okay because that was yeah and that's the highway department oh wa what are the go back so those also I've now commented on so I talked to uh Dave and um that sliding gate that I think you would um asked about previously Jeff yeah okay well he said you know that that currently does not function and he uh wants to actually move it further back so people can't go back behind the buildings um what's back mean pardon take them from where take them from where they are in the front of the property line on the street level take them apart and just put them between the two buildings so that no one can go be after hours can drive behind the buildings right okay this so we just put Priority low on or did you seem to think we needed to do that soon or not um we didn't have that discussion um he didn't he didn't voice any immediate concern okay it was all priority low y yeah but back to the burm why is it what what's the issue that we need priority load under site grading probably just needs monitor what's the problem what's the problem for me I can't I have to put my nose in the street all the time um but I use the one on the west side because it's easier to see on the left side it's built up too much it's too close to the street yeah I think the burms too close to the street you can't see cars coming but I think when they take out those uh G they can you know use their equipment and move them unless you know move what the burn BMS yeah are trees covered them with plants okay well the burm um one area where the BM couldn't be moved is where they have their fuel storage tanks which are right BM with the chain link fence around them um it couldn't be moved away from the there but certainly other areas but then I wonder you know when they bring trucks their their trucks in and uh move them into the vehicle Bays there how much room they need I noticed since I was there last that at least two of the door frames have been uh damaged and according to Dave when you have the plow on there there's very little clearance and uh I think it's something at some point actually probably if I probably need to make a change in the uh comment about the trim at some point uh adjacent those doors but I was wondering if putting ballards up to prevent you know if ballards could be installed in such a way to prevent them from running into the door or somehow not the operating door but the door frame yep anything else on the highway department go back uh keep going thought I saw a space Oh okay I don't think there's with that um can't evaluate until the spring or summer pretty good so are there any more buildings we haven't finished I still have to do a little bit at the elementary school oh okay um so when do you think we're going to be ready to prioritize well my thought is I don't think we're going to find um I don't think I'm going to find any big issues at the elementary school and I think we've already discussed that electrical might be the most important uh item to prioritize this top priority and whether we should start putting together say a list electrical list um and then um get some uh contractors electrical contractors to uh give us bids sounds like a a plan that makes sense yep one thing that was noted during covid on your section 6.1 whatever the ventilation the air Exchange and I don't know the I don't remember the exact numbers Jeff might uh you're supposed to be able to exchange the air so many times a minute or an hour or whatever it is and let's say the standard now is 10 the old system we have is only three um and it was concerned uh in the beginning of covid uh for that reason um so that the specs on that might have to be looked at and that might be a big thing down the road the air exchange units whatever it is making them up to standard because I think do you have that new energy could may bring those back down oh really oh maybe okay because I don't know what the standard was for the new library um yeah we when when the old building committee looked at um the boiler system in there that's what the engineers um that's what the engineers uh came up with you know we had that whole boiler problem there turned out to be you know new computers new valves compared to replacing the whole system um but that was one of the concerns for the future that should be somewhere in some file somewhere an I have a question do you guys have a copy in your office of the building code you have a digital copy of the only the residential or the commercial and residential um I don't know if we have the commercial I can look we don't do we don't do design build on like larger commercials so usually that's coming down from an architect if we're in that code but I can see in theory I can check from home here but I can get back to on that because I'm kind of wondering if if we as part of the committee should get a subscription to the building code so that we can check out some of these things do they do it for free oh nothing's free I can't ask the building inspector for a copy no he won't even give you a copy I mean he can give you a copy of the Massachusetts amendments yeah but without the without the national code you're that's no that's useless okay you how much it cost a year no I would think it' probably be a few hundred dollars would um would some of the say larger libraries uh have that accessible but I don't know again I they I'm sure they would have the massachus Amendments but I'm not sure they'd have the national code so I don't know so what's the um what's the requirement I know you know at least in residential you know everything's quote grandfathered so in the case of the uh ventilation system for the school um as requirements changed are you required to bring you know the building in this case the ventilation system up to meet the code the new code well I can tell you what it was back when before I retired the answer would be no however I know since then is because we had this discussion on the new library meeting a couple days ago where there have been two revisions to the Massachusetts energy code the last two revisions um so I don't I don't guarantee what I'm saying is necessarily correct but in the past if you were to do some major improvements or modifications then you would have to bring it up in the new code but we're not talking about that yeah so it may not be required that the ventilation system be improved it also went back to health things that was the other side yeah yeah unless there's some kind of Health requirement that how changes that is the air changes based on the uh population of the school usually it's based on square footage okay we we talking about something similar at the when I went to the select board meeting the other night for the sh Bay Athletic Club uh ever since that major fire in Rhode Island nothing was grandfathered in and all um for fire restrictions and egresses and all that they changed it all U Massachusetts followed Rhode Island suit and said yeah all those things were out the door that you have a space 100 people you have to have this this and this and um I sent Rita the the select the code is like even fire um uh systems you know if you have X amount of people the state of Massachusetts requires now um sprinklers yeah and they don't care how old the building is or how long you've been in involved because it sa yeah we got we got hit by that big time on at UMass mhm don't a copy of the code sorry go ahead oh I don't have a copy of the commercial code okay okay so I have a little bit more to do at the elementary school one thought I had was um we each have access to the spreadsheet yep so I'm wondering if it would make sense for each of us to go through that and start to get a sense of what you might see as priority items and then um you know next meeting we could talk about some of those but I think do everybody that starting with electrical issues makes sense oh oh yeah sorry I'm having trouble with electrical issues here um I just I the dog had to come up and visit me so I had to move everything unblur your unblur your background so we can see the dog yeah I agree the electrical to me is a good starting point yeah okay so how do we so Frank could you send how do we access this thing say tomorrow or more every whenever you have if I sent you a copy in the past you have access to it so we have to uh I've learned something new and I wanted a new business to talk about uh sharing documents um specifically meeting minutes and I have to figure out how this come into effect with what we were just talking about but when I share you all the meeting minutes um and you all work on them that's comp an open meeting law violation because it's considered a quorum even though you're not each individual is doing it at their own time so you're not doing that in the public that's why a lot of committees recently and I found a list I can send you uh something about email and all the ugliness of open meeting laws not that people are going to complain about our little buildings committee but when we do that we can't edit it you can look at it write your edits on the uh um on your own and they have to be done in public um they can't be done offsite anymore so um tell me if this is also would be also a violation so if the library building committee um um drawing a blank on our secretary um Jeff who's our secretary Library building committee Penny Penny Penny sends us the minutes that she's taken and then we individually uh go through them and if we have any comments we can email them to her and then she modifies the minutes is is that also violation it sounds to me it's a violation because you're not doing it in the public uh realm that's what it sound like from what bank Frank was saying yeah so then the other side is I was thinking about the spreadsheet and going back to the and what Jeff just said was um this is a a document we share and then we're going to share with h this came up when I talked to Gabe yesterday um that we share um one of the things is that we constantly say site visits are not a scheduled open meeting there are site visits so I asked and we have to get an answer is if if Steph dalus goes to the elementary school and uses the spreadsheet as a site visit is at a site visit and makes edits and and that's how I'd like to look at it and and get more clarity so Jeff and what Stephen's asking us to do is come up with our own priorities so in our mind we're all doing site visits at the elementary school or or whatever building we're working on uh and that's how we'll look at it and that's how we'll publicize it if if that gets a blessing from whoever um but they uh I'll find the thing online I just I closed too many tabs today and I'll send you all a list and I still want to get together with Steven because when shoot when she Stephen has the master account shoot SP building something.org if I send it to there it should automatically forward to all its members and I was waiting to do that to add uh Phil when he was in in the loop so as soon as Phils comes on board I want to do that so that whenever we or anyone has questions all we do is send it to the main account and then all the members get it and if someone from outside the system does the same thing uh a bid a question an engineer it goes to all of us in general and that makes it more e i I'll find that it's one of those orgs that came up with this whole list and said Beware of emails was the title the new thing so um I think we can say the spreadsheet is site visits because we're we we're doing a site visit and then we're writing our notes down where meeting minutes are different because we were we're sitting here talking I also learned something new at one of the smaller committees uh that we were Tom was on this morning is that you can do minutes at the end of a meeting I mean what you can record you can accept and record and accept the minutes in other words if you knew you're going to just talk about one thing like the time we all got together to approve the um contract for um the elementary school we got together one day and just approved the contract and that was all we did I could write the minutes up what time it started what time we ended and who said everything and we're all in in agreement and we can also vote on those minutes at the end of the meeting so that was something interesting so um hearing all this so in the future I should not make any changes uh to the document that you send us in terms of minutes corre can I could print it out make all my changes um and then at the meeting present them all correct that's it was a really it's a weird a bunch of I know that a bunch of committees are now doing this and who knows maybe someone complained um but those stupid little laws um and we're all learning because now we're remote so it used to be you know when I started on this committee we met in that little room in uh town hall and we talked for an hour and then we left everything was handwritten and nothing was recorded so interesting so I'll go over some priorities on the buildings and come up with a list um so I could um you know sometimes I will add a fair amount you know Frank to started so I could um copy copy what you've sent make all my changes but not present them until the meeting exactly can I could I at the meeting email them to you yes okay and then I might save your copy and that becomes a permanent record all right we'll try that okay all right so um people will um spend some time looking at the um spreadsheet um Frank I don't know if you want to just resend it so that yeah I mean I have my copy you know so I am C I love it so I know where it is but yeah I'll send it to Dan and Jeff and uh okay as soon as I hang up the meeting okay we will um talk about priorities next time including um electrical okay and two weeks yes does that work for everybody yeah I think so I'll be away all next week but I'll be should be back for the next one okay but but then I'm warning you um I'm leaving February 10th from New Zealand I'll be gone almost a month they have they have internet down there yeah so what what's your [Laughter] point do you have your real IDE they're also like a day and a a day ahead of us yeah and what a long flight yeah don't tell me yeah I know 14 hours from Texas wow we gotta get to Texas first why are you going to Texas my daughter oh um the flight from Boston the best flight to New Zealand on American Airlines is goes from Boston to Dallas and then Dallas to New Zealand someone works at American Airlines well we have points on American Airlines okay hey we're going to visit my daughter and her boyfriend the next meeting will be the 22nd and then after that the 5th of February so we should have you here then right and then you'll be gone for a month yep okay well have a great time sounds awesome thank you and Mr delouth you're you're going to be approached to um f in to attend the construction meetings at the library while I'm away okay so just curious I appreciate all the pictures you're posting I'm on the towns whatever and all that and being in building materials my whole life why wasn't a steel stud building not applicable I always wanted to ask the architect why he doesn't use steel studs um the theory was that being in Wood um more contractors could bid okay we could get like almost like custom residential contractors to build it out of wood as a as opposed to building it out of steel studs and the code um it's not that big of a building the code allowed it to be out of wood there are a few steel members in there but not that many the light steel framing I remember um I didn't do the configuration but uh dri steel or unimas one of the companies bid it out a house and I remember doing the the computation the difference between the two and the steel steel studs was cheaper time so that I thought that was interesting yeah another issue is a lot of the um structure in that library is going to be exposed glue lamb beams mhm so combining the steel and the wood would be yep maybe not cost effective if you ever built a steel studed house Anna house no but definitely in commercial and we did a project a couple years ago that like in the kind of midco days the um steel stud price was all over the map so the originally the architect had steel studs we went to Wood because it was cheaper and then steel was cheaper and then it went back again it was just like a pingpong trying remember if that was 2022 or 21 but it was it was an interesting time it was probably 21 when the shortages hit and that and they went through the roof that because everything was like that so yeah oh my it all it was a blur yeah I remember those roller coaster roids you bid you bid a job and nine months later you're starting the job and it's just like you're not making any money on the steel and yep yeah yeah our joke was like the price is good until you're done reading the sentence all forbidding so uh Frank getting back to um the open meeting law yeah um so when you send the minutes you should not send it as a shared document right no I'm gonna send it as a shared document but you won't be able to edit it oh okay oh I won't be you'll be you'll get a copy of it and you can save it and work on it uh and you know maybe add notes maybe I'll I'll fig I'll figure it out Stephen we'll play okay all right okay do I hear a motion to end the meeting I'd like to end the meeting I have a motion second second cook hi y i quacken Bush hi elas I thank you everyone see you in thank you all bye night byebye