Hey Stephen. Hey Frank. So, how'd your firing go? Very well. I think it actually I wasn't in the firing uh because I couldn't get any work done because of weddings and a few other things, but uh um I just helped out and took some late night
stuff for him. We'll find out Saturday. Uh so, you know, we'll see how it all goes. I'm going to go up Saturday and open it if it's cool enough. Uhhuh. So, um it's pretty nice up there though
and it's five days it's firing. So, wow. Very grueling. Oh, good. And is here. How you doing, Jeff? Very well. Yourself? Very good.
Hello, Anna. Hi, Anna. Hi. Hi. Thanks everybody for doing the later meeting today. That was helpful. Easy to do. Yeah, appreciate that. Very easy. Very easy to do. Thank you. Okay. Phil will not be here today. He
has a conflict. And I'll start the meeting at 5:45 on time. We've got Steven Dalamus, Frank McInn, Jeff Quackenbush, and Anna Cook. First thing on the agenda is a meet
meeting minutes of I have a question. Y are the minutes basically the AI transcription. Yep. I'm having a hard time keeping up with my life in general. Um
I changed I changed a few things on it. Um, but the past two months has just been overwhelming the amount of time I've been spending on the buildings committee. So, especially with the oil problem, it was like h. So,
it usually takes me two hours or to go over the uh video and all that and redo them. Yeah. Why are you asking, Stephen? Why? Yeah. Um well, I read through the minutes once and um especially in the I think the
summary and a few other spots, I find that I don't feel that it's from what I remember an accurate representation of what really transpired. But, you know, I'm the I'm the one who's kind of the nitpicker on the minutes.
So, We always enjoy your focus. The last two months have been overwhelming for me, but I I'll may be able to do change them going forward and stuff like that. Um, I can try
going forward. Do you have any changes? Um, I'd have to read through them again, but I I felt I guess I feel that there a number a fair number of things and I just said
I'm not doing this. Anyone else have a problem with the minutes or what I mean I guess what is the who's looking at the minutes or like what are we do are we checking those out five years from now
you know like is it a require I think it's a requirement I think it's a requirement or just if somebody wanted to to look back something so is there like an AI transcript, which
of course it would be a lot longer, but then you're not relying on AI to summarize things in ways that we don't like, would that just make it more accurate and on the off chance someone's checking out some random meeting minutes, you know, in the future that they just have to dig through a longer thing because it's a little more
verbatim. I They only have a couple options. I know one is a lot longer. Um, I mean the other thing is we could do what this other I've read other minutes and some people
just do oneliners really the one sentence for sure a 15 minute conversation or 20 minute conversation the committee you the committee talked about the oil leak you know that's all they say so
right and that's it. Yeah. And the transcript would have just caught me telling my kid to put her pants on, so we don't really need that. Like we didn't hear that. Oh, good. I was trying to get my voice down, but so like sometime like the verbatim would also be like an avalanche of unnecessary
information, too. But if that's somehow better than the AI, you know, attempt to condense things. I don't know. But I kind of agree. It's like it's such a time suck. I that's like I 100% why I did not volunteer for the position. So um
I don't know I feel like imperfect something is better than none of us doing it you know and it depends on what time of year um between a you know weddings firings um a whole bunch of stuff happened in the
last two months that just overwhelmed. There was a week there that I I didn't have anything to do other than what was scheduled. Yeah. You come home at 9:00 at night and you don't have time to do stuff. So that's where I was this week um this past
months actually. Yeah. And getting back to your uh original question, um I'm on the um MN Spear Library Reuse Committee
and some questions came up about when um we first reformed the building committee and you know, I was looking into us uh applying for a CPA or CPC grant for the
front entry porch at the library. And so I was able to go back and look at the minutes um from that. But of course maybe if it was AI generated minutes there would have been enough info uh
there. I don't know. But I'd say occasionally somebody might for historical purposes go look at the minutes. Sure. Yeah. I mean I kind of knew the answer to the question. It was more like how what's the bar that we need to set
here? But if none of us have the time to do this consistently, I kind of feel like an imperfect AI thing is better than the alternative. Yeah. I don't think there is a bar. Okay. I kind of lean towards if the AI gets close, that's good
enough. Yeah. I would also add I feel like I can I mean maybe this will change over time, but you can kind of tell that it's AI. So then if I'm reading something and I know it's AI, I'm reading it with like kind of a different attitude on how I'm kind of discerning the information and
maybe that's okay for other people too. That makes sense. And I might have more time after today for this meeting to take the II and condense it and just do the bullet points like I've done in the past, but past two months I haven't been
able to do it. So, so do we want to approve these meeting minutes? Yes. You want to approve? Do I have a motion? I make a motion to approve them. Second. Uh, so moved. Okay.
Roll call vote. David. Oh, sorry. Are we alphabetical? I always forget. No, I just do it by I always do it who who came on first. Um. Oh, that's Steve was first then Jeff then. So that's I'll shut up. I'm good.
I it I could probably rearrange the screen, but anyway, Stephen Dalmus Dus I Wacom Bush Army Cook I Okay, thank you very much. And number two for the uh the procedure um to bring to next
week's meeting um what I remember from our last meeting which I really liked was some type of work order and the only reason why I want something I want the for me and how I feel is um
to be more to have everyone more inclusive um is to have this select board say this is how we should do it going forward. I like the work order idea that Phil came up with that he said he used to do at Mount Snow a work order going to whom?
I think it should just go to the buildings committee saying we need to have this done. You can re No. Yeah, I kind of think it ought to go to um Haley. Yeah. And then if she can if she can go through and say
the first blush now this is BS. we're not doing this because you know I could see a work order change my light bulb and you know there's no reason it should come to us. Okay. So I totally agree. I think it ought to go to her first and
she should then decide whether it should, you know, go to the building committee or if it should just be dealt with by who's ever requesting.
But somehow informing somebody, Haley should inform someone at the building committee that this is the request and this is how we think we ought to proceed. Okay. Building committee want to be part of it. I I mean, I'm going to go back to
the school again only because uh to see the angst in uh the principle of going $16,000 over budget and having to for maintenance on the boiler. Um and the one that stuck out of the 16 was
$6,000 for a new pump that got flooded. And I wouldn't have done that cuz they I would have asked, "What's a better way?" Because after they installed it, Gem Rod informed me, "Oh, most schools have this pump inside the building, not in a hole
in the ground that's got 3 ft of water underneath it." And the subp pump failed. Um, so little things like that. So, it's, you know, I think it's a waste of taxpayers money. Um, I would have handled it differently, but also to find
out that this water problem's been going on for five years. Mhm. So that's the only I I I like your idea, Jeff, that it should go to Haley because I think her task also was in charge of all the buildings or something like that in her in her um work description. I
remember seeing something like that because at that meeting I would also like to get from the select board what do they think our our duties are. Mhm. Um and then go from there.
You know, the work order I I think is a fine idea, but again goes to Haley first. Yes. Yep. I like that idea. And just toh throw out an interesting example, uh Jeff and I were up at town hall last week starting
to uh fill in the gaps around the fence post after we did the repair to the fence. and I walked around the building looking for um an electrical receptacle and the mini split
that serves the assessor's office, the refrigerant lines were disconnected. So, I saw Brennan um at the meeting uh he's he's uh coming to the meetings for
the reuse, the MN Spear Library reuse. and I asked him about it and he said, "Oh yeah, there was a problem with it and um I don't think they had Jamro, but the whole point is we didn't know anything about this problem with this mini split
and I'm sure Haley did." Um, and so then I say if Haley makes the decision to get somebody to come and deal with this mini split and there's a repair cost, is this
coming from the buildings committee? You know, like how, you know, can somebody can Haley uh or somebody else determine that the building committee is responsible for something? you know, like we have we
have some monies and you know, we've done a number of repairs on our own. Uh, and now we have things like the electrical, like the gutters and downspouts, um, to name a couple things that we want to spend some of our money on.
So, good question. That's why I wanted this select board to kind of explain what they think we're supposed to be doing. And part of that discussion should be who's got control of the money
and and Frank question. So this um what was it six am I remembering about 6,400 to get the oil cleaned. Yes. Who's who's paying for that? Very good question. How I did it because I didn't want to make a commitment
because it wasn't you know on our end. I call I went into Haley and I said, "This is a contract. Would someone from would you someone issue a PO or something? I don't do that. I just, you know, I I wanted someone else to to do it." And I I I
said and I said at that point, I don't know where the monies are coming from. Oh, I'm sorry. Henry's Henry Gettis just popped in. Sorry, I didn't I was talking and I didn't see him. But um so yeah, we had the um I
didn't want to commit to our monies, you know, because you know that was that that you know that went really well. Um, I mean, you obviously did an awful lot of work on getting it taken care of, but
you know, based on a lot of what information you've found out and have told us about, it's like this really wasn't your problem. No, it wasn't our It wasn't the buildings committee problem. You know, we would have done something totally different. And I've always liked Jeff's attitude.
fix it for 30 years so the next guy will have to fix it and we don't have to hear anyone complain about it and not do anything on the skinny. Um, you know, I in the in the and also like the coordination of all the committees. I talked to Michael Diierra. He's going
to hook me up with a past school person who's been who was on the school committee for years and years and years and we'll know when that tank was put in. Let's say that tank was put in uh 35 years ago. It's almost at its
lifetime. As as fiberglass tanks go, they they according to the stuff I researched, it's 35 to 45 years. It might last a 100, I don't know. But if we have a major problem, they do the parking lot, we
have to dig the parking lot up again. So that's the coordination you want. It's like uh you know you do you ask everyone what they're doing with stuff and we're all talking together and someone doesn't come in and you know mess up the parking lot
and and with the com tank did a great job. Um I asked them I asked an the principal what time should they be there and she gave me a specific time and so they wouldn't interrupt the school buses and they came 10 minutes 15 minutes
after that and then you know they were done and everything else and the school buses came so it was a good coordination so we didn't interrupt the school as it is because we had to do it during school hours but you know just the coordination is you know I guess someone said everyone
has their own fftom if we all know about it. We can help each other. And I think that's what it comes down to. And I don't think Matt wants to make these decisions at the as a custodian, you know, he just says, "I need I need the hot water on, you know." Have you been able based on past
history? Anybody Is there a preferred vendor list that the town has for, you know, if you have a problem, call X, Y, and Z company? I asked Haley. you couldn't find anything because I I've heard I've heard it both ways.
Yes. That's another thing I would like to hear because and if there isn't should we make one, but I don't know what the process would be to make one. I know how that they did
it at UMass, but you know that that's all contractual stuff and and uh that's not easy to do. So I don't know that's necessarily our solution, but or at least at least like I'm very
disappointed because he's I've emailed him. He hasn't got back to me. Don't know why, but uh you know it's frustrating. Um we came and we spent time. Yeah. So, I'm going to call him tomorrow one more time. And uh
So, you said you emailed. Have you had have you called as well? No. Okay. That's my next thing. I assume I I got you I send the a lot of emails out on Monday and I just assume people are at the job so you won't get back to you Tuesday. Now it's Wednesday. So,
they're on the you know that Anna, you leave the office, you go to a job site. Yeah. I mean, and we all have cell phones now, but we like to pretend we don't. Yep. So, who's going to be at the meeting Tuesday from our little happy group?
I will be. We have to have a quorum. Um, we should have a quorum. Phil said he would be. Yeah. Will you be able to make it, Jeff? Um, I think I will. I have to take my wife to a doctor's appointment in Boston, but I think we're going to be back in time. What time do you think
we're going to be meeting them? I I think we're on the agenda first. Meeting seven. No, it's f that's it's a five o'clock meeting. They I don't know why they're doing meetings that they changed the they've had some unique meetings. Uh
so it's five o'clock, not six. Yeah, it's 5:00 and we're basically they review the minutes and then they then it's us. Okay. I'm not convinced I'll be back by five. I thought it was at 7.
Okay. Well, we'll try to be there. Will you be able to be there, Anna? Um, Tuesday at 5 14. I don't know what I don't know. Well, I I can be there. So, if Phil's going to be there, we've got a quorum,
right? Okay. And Phil said he would be there, so we'll do that. And Okay. I know Maryanne's going to come um cuz she would like an answer to a lot of these same questions as it will affect the new library.
Um just so you guys are aware, I've been talking with Maryanne because the mechanical system at that new library is complex. So, for the first year in her budget, uh, she's going to hire the mechanical
contractor who installed the systems at the library to do the periodic maintenance. U, but then after the first year, she she doesn't want it to be in her budget unless somehow her budget's
adjusted. I can see that. Yeah. So, she's got to be she'll be at the meeting, too. Okay. Okay. So, can't be there. I just have conflicting My kids are in different activities. So,
um I have trouble just getting them. Lend them a car. Just lend them a car. They'll take it. Yeah. I guess if you combine their ages, they're old enough to drive. It works. That's that's by the way when I turned 16 and got it whatever month after that
was the first thing my parents did was give me hand me down car and I became the driver of the house and the neighbor but okay so we'll put take something together I'll the work order uh what are our duties where do the monies come from
you know and preferred vendor um and you know where you basically What are what does the select board think our duties are? From there, we if they if they think that everyone's in charge of their own building, great, you know, so go with that.
Also, if they think we're actually doing all the physical repairs ourselves, that doesn't work when it comes to some of these systems. Okay. Thank you. You know, Frank, are you saying that you're going to uh put
together a work order? I was going to look up a online what a work order looks like and then because I was thinking why not just wait till the meeting and ask them if they think a work order would be a good idea
and then if they like the idea then it can be pursued but you know a waste of time. Yep. Yeah. Okay. If you wanted to see a work order request, you just go to UMass physical plant website and that's where people
would submit a work order request. Okay. Okay. I think we've answered that enough of that. Uh the next thing on is the oil tank. Um they cleaned it or polished is the word. And um I got the
report I sent to everyone. I don't know how to read it, but um did it take some water out and it's all good. The only thing they didn't do was the cap. He he promised me to do the cap. Yeah. Okay. Um the five gallon bucket's going to be
there for a little bit. Does anyone know a copper tin knocker in the area? No. Do you mean copper? Do we say tin knocker? Copper duct work. Well, what I
call them tin knockers. My brother-in-law, my brother-in-law when he does through roof chimneys uses one specific guy to do a copper flashing that's custom to the top of the chimney. Wow. So, this was custom. Whatever they wherever they made these things, it was custom.
Okay. And my thought was um because it shouldn't be that much money to make it aesthetically look correct um is to uh take the copper sleeve that we showed you all in the picture. Bring it
to that guy. He puts a fun cap on it and I stick it back on because it would aesthetically follow suit. Um because all it has to do is be a mushroom or whatever. um rather than buy a commercial one.
The only thing I could recommend is the company that we hired to fix the slate at um Spear Library. Um they maybe I don't know if they can make something out of I mean they deal with lead coated copper.
Mhm. Um Oh yeah. I'll call my brother-in-law cuz he uses it all the time on his high-end buildings and I'm not going to drive to Rhode Island though. Um, but he has a lot of jobs in Massachusetts. So, I'll do a little leg work on that one.
That company's out of blood though with the ones that did the the slight roof. Yeah, there's got to be someone. I haven't done the research. I just thought I'd ask. Um, so so is the system up and running?
Yep. Supposedly, no one complained. So, you don't hear anything, don't ask. Um, actually the four it it has to be up and running by the 15th of this month. Right. Got seven more days. Seven more days before. So,
um, so I'll probably take a ride over and see Ann um by Friday just to see how life is over there. So, to recap, so what we found was was there water in the tank? three inches on the bottom. Okay. So, now all the water's gone.
The water's gone. The They did that that polishing, that strange test, which goes through three different types of filters. One for algae, one for fungus, one for water. But they pump the water out first and put it into a container
and then process it from there back in and give a you know, and when they at the end they test the water the product before and after. And so it was, you know, new, it was new fuel. How many do you know how many gallons was processed?
Uh, gallons of oil or gallons of water? Well, I'm assuming that the entire whatever the liquid uh level or the liquid in gallons was, that's what was processed and they got
rid of all the water. I mean, the thought occurred to me just recently. I thought, "Okay, so it's $6,400 to take it all out, clean it, put it back in. What would the cost be to just pump it out,
get rid of it, it's contaminated, and put new oil in? Tremendous amount of money. A lot more than um a lot more than $6,200. Okay, you have to pay by the gallon." And that was one of the things I asked. And the the guy who did the pressure tank says, "You don't want to do that. you want to,
you know, he gave me the several people gave me the idea of the polishing, but you basically have to pay by the gallon. So, if there was 6,000 gallons in there, it has to go to a specific place. Got it. Okay. Yeah.
And is the sump pump fixed? It was a brand new sump pump with a line. It's a manual system, though. See, this is what I'm We're in a drought, so there's water in it down there. Um, you know, I wish it if we had been involved, there's an electrical box
there. You know, there's electric for the pump. So, we could have had the subp pump automatically plugged into it, so you don't have to open it and check it if it needs to be pumped. Do you follow me? Saying you have to manually turn on the sump pump
and pull out the hose. Bizarre. Yeah. So, how do you know whether you need to go do that? I think they check every once in a while. This is the bizarre thing for me. I like automatic is, you know, you know, take the sub pump, put the hose outside
somehow, okay? And uh have it all hooked up and then just check to make sure it's working all the time rather than go out there with an extension cord across the parking lot and take the hose out and put it in the parking lot. That's the current manual.
Do you remember when I went out uh there early in this process before you got involved, Frank? Yeah. That Matt said that during the spring when it was raining a lot, he would check it and there was no water
in there. And then at some point, say after all the rains, then all of a sudden there's this water. So, you know, it's like when do you check it? I know we've been in a severe drought
and everything is down, the lakes, the ponds, and everything. So, and you know, I was surprised to see how much water was in there. So, I wonder if you could get some kind of water alarm that would like signal your phone,
you know, something simple that could be put down in there. You mount maybe mount a couple of them. Um but just like our septic system has the alarm and it the pump fails. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
To which mine failed three years ago. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you want to uh Henry, you can you hear us? Henry, do you want to do your presentation now rather than the end? Uh, can you hear me?
I can hear you. Yes, we can see you. Hi, everybody. Hi, Henry. Hello. Hello. Yeah, historical commission here. Um, oh, how about that?
Well, this is very efficient. I didn't even summon it. Can you see what is on the screen there? Can't read it. Can't read it. It It's too small, is it? Yeah, we're old. Well, except for Anna.
It's all relative. Oh, thank you. Yeah. And so, uh, just to bring you up to speed on the, uh, the guide board on the town common, right? Uh the the renovations should be done
uh early next year, it turns out. And uh we thought it would be a good idea to get the cement foundation recommended by uh Steven Smolski up and running uh you know as soon as we can
in the time remaining before winter sets in. Uh what you see before you there is uh a description the top part there uh of the work involved for this cement foundation.
Um, and uh I I I went ahead and and looked around to see uh if there was a local contractor who might be able to do it and u perhaps you have some
leads on someone who could do this kind of job. It's it's a very small job. Uh, I sent out eight bids with this kind of description and only got one back saying they would consider doing it. Uh,
and the cost they quoted was $2,500. Um, you know, everything I think well I I guess your input would be great here. uh both in terms of the recommendation
and in terms of a potential contractor. Uh the the one bid we did get uh wondered about the last item, metal flashing,
uh etc. And of course, I have no idea what that is, you know, what that would look like, but um I ran it by Bob Groves and he seemed to think that that was
unnecessary. Um I have a couple comments. Yeah. Um, first one, um, we have a, uh, retired contractor who has volunteered and, uh, we've done some several
different repairs around town and I had talked to him about this a while back and, um, he said at the time that he would be uh, willing to be involved in doing this. Um, that's first first
comment. Um, you know, I remember in the drawing that I saw, it's kind of a sketch that Steve Smolski did. Um, the whole sign board is going to be, we'll say, floating slightly above the slab.
Yes. And, um, you know, there's going to be some detailing and figuring out exactly how to do that. Um, and I have some thoughts about that. And um,
you know, I I think that the metal flashing probably is not going to be a necessity. Um, and I'd be a little concerned about putting the pad in before we have the sign board because I think it would be good to get the sign
board back and actually position it where we think we want it and say that's good or that's bad. Um, you know, and if it comes back sometime in the winter, well, you know, it could be housed
somewhere, maybe in the highway department, uh, undercover until the spring and then, you know, we deal with the pad in the spring. That's my thought. How heavy is this sign board? Not heavy at all.
So, what's going to hold it down? That's the next question, precisely. Um, that's why I think Steven's got the right idea. We need to see this thing before we go pouring a bunch of concrete. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Smolski recommended uh
securing it to the concrete and and of course that that would entail a whole other layer of um, you know, an additional layer to this, right? Um, again, and I've I've already got some ideas on this which probably
aren't that easy to just verbally explain, but basically um possibly using some uh aluminum L sections uh attached to the concrete and then attaching to them uh some pieces of
pressuret treated wood uh that will go up inside of the sign board. And there'd be some stops inside the sign board. And then you'd be able to at several locations screw through the sign board
into the pressuret treated wood so everything's anchored. Yeah. So, well, again, I think your idea, Steve, let's let's see this thing back in in town and then we'll figure out how we're going to do. You'd have to we
might have to use stainless steel uh threaded bolts in the concrete and I'd like to have it measured in front of me and say yeah rather than guess it's supposed to go there and then yeah I'm wondering how they came up with a 45 by 45 dimensions.
That would be Smolski. Yes. Uh this is what uh he recommended. Yeah. Well, in his sketch, he shows the concrete base being slightly smaller uh dimensionally than the base of the
signboard, so that uh there's less chance of water kind of pulling or puddling on the concrete, which makes good sense, but you know, we don't know yet if the sign board is perfectly square at the base. And I think there
are a lot of uh issues, if you will, that could come up if we pour that slab ahead of time and then determine find out that it's too big or Yeah. Right. Agreed. And and I think the location of the
signboard um is is an important consideration as well. Yeah. Yeah. I uh actually spent some time with Leslie Bracebridge. Uhhuh. sorting out where it might uh be placed
and uh and we we marked it. But yeah, agree. I agree. We need to revisit that and and probably, you know, double check it. Um according to the I just um did some quick con u configuration. It's going to
be used between nine and 10 cubic feet of concrete. That's another issue. Um, I know there's there's someone that someone once said, I know a guy who does 10 cubic feet. So, rather than a you pay so much when you
order a dump truck full you'll get like a short load fee. Yeah, you'll get Yeah. So, it asks what I know someone else who has a Doug Smith from Wendell told me if you ever get a you know he knows someone who does 10 yards or 10 cubic feet or something, not
10 yards. I think a How much is a dump truck? I don't know. I don't know. Would probably hand mix something like that. It's just under 4x4 by I don't know. Just math on how many bags and rent a mixer.
Half a cubic foot per bag of uh quick. So, we'd need 20 bags. So, for for the 45x 45 by 8, that's that's uh that much concrete. Mhm.
8 in thick. We have to make sure it goes down on the ground so it doesn't move. That's another question. We're just putting a slab on there and in time will it move?
Well, that's I mean if it frost sees up and down that's no big deal. Okay. I mean being in this thick I don't think it's going it's going to go anywhere. It was sitting on um some flat stones that were uh uh flush to the ground in
in the in the past. And then Bob also recommended this uh 6x6 foot uh gauge welded wire reinforcing mesh. No, it's 6 in by 6 in. Is it 6 in? No, that's six feet by six feet.
I know. But it's a 6 by6 10 x 10 6 by six. But it's Yeah, it's supposed to be six inches, right? Right. Is it? I would assume so. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. This is all standard stuff. Okay. Okay. Concrete guy right in shoot that does
flat work. I don't I don't think he would do the prep, but um Bernard Concrete's right by the lake. He would definitely do the flat work. Okay. So, we'll leave it till we get that the guide board back. Yep. And you could probably put it in the
boiler room of town hall. The boiler room. Yeah. Um, you know, they they put a lot of stuff in there sometimes. I Well, we could we could investigate several locations. Yeah.
So, it's it's protected. Um, yeah. Could put it in the meeting room. It's It's an adornment. Yeah. How How big is it again? What are the approximate dimensions?
5t tall. Yeah, just above 5 foot. It's just a bit higher maybe than than my height. I'm 5'11, so it's just about that high. And then the base is approximately is it really the base 45 or 45?
Yeah, some somewhere in that. It's slightly smaller than that. So it doesn't sit through a three-foot door. Oh yeah. Or does not? Yeah. Oh, that's a good question. Highway department. Highway department.
That's what it sounds like. Yep. Okay. Highway department. Uh a place to store it someplace. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, I'll uh I guess get
back to you as soon as we get that the word on it. Okay. And it's it it you know, if if uh I guess it would be best if they returned it in the spring, right? I mean, there's no point in if if if possible if they can store it
um get it back to us in the spring instead. As long as they don't charge you. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay. Well, thanks Henry. We'll be in touch. Bye bye.
Take care. Okay. Okay, boss. What's next? Uh, we talked about the electrical projects updates and I have to give him another call and I tried doing the Knox box
online and I think I have to have Lenny do it with me because he's got he has a a code. Did you put the Knox box on the library yet? You mean is it installed? Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
It's not, you know, it's it's recessed. It's researched. Yeah. Yeah. Because anyway, so I'll work on that next week or so for the other buildings. Uh the only other thing I had actually I want to share. What about the um what
about the gutters? You know, Anna got those prices on the gutters. Are we going to move ahead with this? We should. Or are we going to wait till we know how much the electrical work's going to cost? How much money do we have?
Right. Another way of looking at it. And how much money were those gutters? I don't remember anymore, but I'll pull it up. I think um I think it was like like eight grand. Couple. Yeah. Okay. I think we had like 75
in our account because remember it got put in twice. That's why we didn't we weren't on town meeting. Uh right. annual town meeting because it had gotten put in twice. We have around 70. We don't know if we're paying for the uh
oil problem at the school and a few other things. Right. Well, if we spend all our money real quick, they'll say, "Hey, sorry, we don't have it." Don't we need to get the elevator running?
Yes, that's that's a new that's another unanticipated things that that's why I was hoping for this Paya because he said he'd had a guy and he did everything. So, it was a little disappointing, but I'll give him a call tomorrow.
So, are we saying that the that the gutters are moving down the priority list? Let's see what the electric costs and it'd be nice to get the gutters done this fall. before the snow and everything just because that's, you know, ice and all
that other stuff direction where the ice goes. So, and that's pretty those are going on. Gutters go quickly. They just drive up. Oh, yeah. They'll be done in a day. I bet they would do all three together. I was just looking them up because they're pretty separately. So, we had 1300,800
and then I'm just getting the last one was 750. I'm rounding. you had uh raised a question about putting a scupper at the back of uh town hall, you know, way up above the door.
Yep. And I think it's a good idea. The one problem is the way um the way that little valley, if you will, comes down to the corner of the elevator
shaft, which extends up above the roof line. Um it's going to be tricky to get that in there so that it truly captures all the water. And I don't know if they can do any flashing, which I
suspect they don't do. No. It's kind of a weird spot, too, cuz um on the one hand, like there's a door and you want to collect all the water, but then where does the water go? It just sort of like dumps into that corner. I'm not sure. Well, there's a drain there.
True. Yeah. Several years ago, um, we found that it was clogged and Steve Sullivan ran a snake down and he got around one elbow and then I think there was almost immediately another elbow or and I don't know that that's ever been
opened up. I don't think it's ever been fixed. Yeah. So, I mean, if the down spout came down to the ground, it's in a way it's no different than all
that water just running down the side of the other than other than we keep it off the side of the building. Yeah. I mean, that would be the I think the reason to do it, right? Sure. And so, Mr. Gutter doesn't do that kind of thing. Um because Yeah. I don't
know if it' be like a kind of a customformed Yeah. upper. I don't know if there's a roofing contractor that wants to bend that up or like a metal roofing contractor. I'm not really sure to be honest. Yeah, I think I mean it probably
doesn't. It's a It's only getting a small amount of water. So, probably could just somebody could just use a say a 12 inch piece of gutter or something, you know, I mean, and not have a custom scupper, but I
think there's going to be some flashing work needed to make sure it all goes into the receptor, whatever it is. Yeah. So maybe we leave leave that and um out of the gutter work.
Yep. Sounds like a plan. Um did anyone open the capital planning committee email I sent you all? Oh, I looked at it. I opened it. That's all I did.
I didn't really understand what we're supposed to do with it. I this I'm gonna have to go talk to I it sounds like you know I thought the spreadsheet we did that Stephen spent boatloads of hours and you know we all spent boatloads of hours is
self-explanatory like you know was it purchase current replacement cost you know I couldn't guess that. No I don't think we'd Yeah. I might go in and talk to her tomorrow.
Um I just Yeah. It was an interesting conversation because it was only three buildings. Old Town Hall, um, MNS Spear Library, and Town Hall. So, well, and you know, with Old Town Hall that you have up there, Yeah.
It's like what what do they want to know? The current replacement cost of the building or the anticipated life years? It's done pretty well since 1829. So, Right.
So, yeah, I the whole thing I'd have to ask more about because uh and I agree with you, Frank. I mean, if they took the spreadsheet, they could glean a lot of information. Mhm.
Um Yeah. Yeah, you know, like like current town hall there, the HVAC, you know, there's a lot of information. I mean, there's the boiler, there the mini splits. Um, and you've dated it all, so it's like very, you know,
Yeah. As many dates as I could find, they're in there. I wonder if they ever opened my our spreadsheet when when I sent it from us. Not my spreadsheet, our spreadsheet. So anyway, just keep forwarding the sped treat and we'll just email the attachments back and forth,
right? I'll go in tomorrow and ask what is I just wanted to say that. So, um, other than that, is any unanticipated business? I think we've talked about it. They moved the um the leftover metal
roofing from the library project has been moved over to the highway department. Mhm. For us to use. Um so that's been taken care of if we ever rebuild that
the little that little building. Do you do you know where it's uh stored? I mean, have you seen where they put it? Yeah, I saw it, but I can't remember. I think it's to the left of the highway building if you're looking at the building from the road.
Yeah. Sort of I'll say neatly uh placed or do we need to go and kind of organize it? No, it's I think it was neatly placed. Okay, good. And then with the library, the new
library, the contractor is leaving us a pallet or a partial pallet of slate, leftover slate, um, which we're going to stick in the woods near where the well is in case we
need to do any slate repairs down the road. It's going to stay on the pallet. Yeah, it's going to stay on the pallet till the pallet disintegrates. Okay. And then um the the contractor's giving me a list of all the um
attic stock that we own. Now, we don't want all that. There's But um what kind of stuff? Yeah, attic stock. Attic. It's like extra like just uh like, you know, repairs, future
matching. You know, as an example, we're going to get a certain number of square feet of ceiling tile. Okay. Things like that. Yeah. Partial open boxes, partial boxes. Yeah. Nuts and bolts, and all that other fun stuff.
So, um, so we're going to get a bunch of that stuff. Some of it we're not we don't want, but some of it we'll keep and try to figure out where we're supposed to put it. Any leftover siding material? Well, kind of sided material. Wood.
Wood. The wood. Yeah. But what are we going to keep with the wood? Where would Why do we leftover pieces of wood? I mean, it like lengths, not not, you know, cut off scraps.
Yeah, there's some lengths, but where do we keep it? Where do we store it? We don't have any storage. Can't stick it in the woods. you know. Well, I was wondering if, you know, could um talk to Dave, the highway department, and maybe there's a spot
where could put up a couple shelf brackets, you know, an out of way place and um put it on the put it up so it's inside. I I question why we even need it. Okay,
that's right. We don't have to. It's We'll be gone, right? There's the theory. It's got to be Anna's problem. Slate siding is the slate siding is the best thing to keep because Yeah. We'll never be kids and someone might just start throwing rocks someday and breaking a couple of them. They'll
be easy to fix, right? And we're never going to be able to match that color in the future. Yeah. Well, it's the Murphy's law. If you know exactly like your manufacturer and color, then it's been discontinued. And when something goes, I don't know, then you find it really easily. Right.
So, um, getting back to the gutters for a minute, are we going to go ahead with the gutters? I thought we were going to wait till we see the final electrical to see if it eats up what we're going to do with all that stuff. And then if it's not going to eat
it all up and it seems reasonable, um, well, I we can pull the trigger at the next meeting because it, you know, it's a fall project. So, I'd have to go back um and look again, but remember uh Grace Electric, he gave
us estimates. Yeah. And I don't I want to say I don't think it was more than 30,000 if it was that anyway. Okay.
Okay. Well, then I'll we'll see all each other who gets to show up and uh we'll show you how to use your app, mobile app for the Zoom, Jeff, before uh next Tuesday. Yeah, that'll be the
[Laughter] My mobile app is called a piece of paper and pencil. I threaten that every time we have computer problems at work. I'm like, "Pen and paper. We're going back. I'm done."
So, um, do you think there's any value in, um, having a meeting in a couple weeks rather than a month in terms of you'll have found out something about
whether or not Pure's giving us an estimate? And if not, we could pursue with grace if he's still interested. And then knowing how much we might be spending there, we could uh also go ahead with
the gutters. Right with me. Sure. So that's the 22nd. 22nd. I can do the I can't do the 22nd. Can we do it the 29th? Just make it an extra week. I can't I won't I can't do the 22nd unless someone else wants to run
the meeting. But um is it 29? That works for me. We're saying the 29th. Yeah, you're good. Fantastic. Okay.
In that case, do we have a motion to end the meeting? I make a motion to end the meeting. I second. Elm I motion I Cook I. I. Thank you very much. Thank you, Frank.
Okay. Bye. 5:30 on the uh 29th. Yes. Yes. That works. Okay. Great. Bye everybody. Bye. [Music]