Hello everyone. >> Hello. >> Howdy. >> Howdy. >> Enjoying the weather? >> Beautiful. >> You'll be able to skate in the next couple days over to my house if you want. I think it's going to go below
zero tomorrow or tonight. Did everyone have a lovely holiday? >> We had a busy holiday. We had 15 students. >> Wow. How big was the turkey? >> 22 pounds. >> Wow.
>> I went from >> their uh foreign exchange foreign students from Kazakhstan. Have they had a Thanksgiving meal before? >> Yeah, this this is something we do every year. So, they've done it in the past
few years, too. >> That's pretty nice. >> Yeah, very nice. >> So, what they think of uh turkey and stuffing and all the trimmings? >> They ate it.
Did they all go home with leftovers? >> Oh, yeah. >> Still they're all still alive. >> My nephew uh just bought a house and him and his wife invited her family, my family, and it was a huge amount. Two
turkeys, seating all over the place. It was very interesting. I had a niece fly in from Paris and or Marseilles and a nephew from Ireland. So, it was kind of fun. People family now living overseas, but
a lot of fun. Were you in town, Stephen? We were in town. Uh-huh. Yeah. We were supposed to have some uh friends from Baltimore come up, but um one of them had a I guess you could say somewhat of a medical emergency. Um he had a kidney
stone that had to be operated on. >> So they didn't make it. So uh we got a smaller turkey. I still smoked it though. >> You smoked it? Oh fun. >> I've been doing that. How do you do that?
>> Well, I have what's called a smoker grill. >> Okay. >> Columnar things. And um you know, the key thing is um well, mine's electric. Um so I get wood
chunks. I soak them in wood in water for o over half an hour. And then as it operates, you put the chunks on the burner element and it creates smoke and you have a water pan in there. And the
turkey uh as it drips fat and whatever else, it just goes into the water pan. >> Oh, that sounds lovely. >> What kind of wood What kind of wood do you use? >> Well, I use a combination of cherry and
alder. um gives a mild smoke. Um you know, I don't like heavily smoked things. Um a lot of people don't, but uh so it's, you know, it has a different flavor, but it's not uh overwhelming.
>> Okay, >> that was very interesting. I like smoked products. I also don't mind heavily smoked flavored things. I have a um I collect black walnut shells after the >> the uh squirrels eat them. And that's a
very heavy smoked, very pey stuff. That's a fun. I do that with oysters. >> I have smoked oysters. >> I tried smoking salmon once. Uh but I didn't I didn't do something right. A friend did it for me, but I didn't do
something. You have to salt brine it for a while. Yep. Yeah, I do that. >> Yeah. >> And then my smoker, um it's older, so it doesn't have any kind of control to control the
heat. So, um the last time I smoked a piece of salmon, I had the lid practically off um because I needed to keep the temperature low, like around 150 for the first hour. Otherwise, you know how sometimes when you cook salmon,
all that white product comes out? Well, that's because you're actually cooking it too hot, too fast, and the muscles are contracting too quickly, so it makes it drier and not as flavorful.
Um, >> interesting. Oh, well, I don't It's uh 534, I think. If someone else is coming in, we'll let them in. But right now, um, I think we'll open we have a quorum, so I'll open the meeting. We have Jeff
Quackenbush, Steven Delmus, and Frank McInn call the order the meeting to order at 5:35. I sent out the minutes late. I shared them today. I thought I had did shared them before, but when I looked at
them today, they weren't shared. Um, if you want to look at them now or we can postpone it till the next meeting, that's fine with me. >> Let's postpone them. I haven't looked at him. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Are we supposed to be able Are we supposed to tell you what to change?
>> Yes. >> Okay. >> Phil Parker's name was wrong, so I changed that. And a couple >> My name's wrong. >> It's D A L Mus. >> Mus. It is. >> And it's not in there. Yes.
>> And my name is Stephen with a PH, not with a V. >> I don't know why I there. So, okay. Um, but we'll look at that next week. Um, >> did you read through those, Frank? >> Yes. Quickly.
>> Well, I did quickly as well. And I feel that they have they're now redundant. It like goes through the meeting and then it goes like I don't know action levels or this or that and it's like well I'm read I already read this before. I read this before. So >> it's interesting. I'm using we had eight
or so different feedbacks and I went to I went to use the last one that we liked the feedback template and it's totally different. I don't know why. So I'll look at it again see if I can match it up but we'll do that next week. Um,
I guess we rewind we wanted the meeting today because you wanted to go over the electrical. Have you had a convers you were talking to Ptori? >> Oh, Puric is also misspelled in the minutes. >> Okay, I'll look at that again.
>> Um, well, I had to the key thing was to get an update from Grace, >> right? um which he finally uh was able to get to me to uh get to me today and I went through it and um and then
Jeff and I actually talked about it um a little bit this afternoon and now the updated price for Grace the total is 10,160 the total for pure IC is 10,650.
And one of the things that we noticed was that the there was quite a bit of difference between Grace and Puric at Town Hall. And one of the things I noted was Peturic is referring to the walls in
Town Hall as being concrete. and I didn't know if that was adding to the cost uh of replacing these electrical panels. So, I actually called him and got to speak to him um this evening uh
or early this late this afternoon. And long story short, that doesn't make that much difference. But he brought up something that I don't think that I had asked um Grace about whether or not Grace is
uh paying prevailing wage to anyone that works for him. >> Ah >> um but if he is, the estimates are practically the same. If he isn't, they'd be quite a
bit different. Um, but Pure also um made a couple comments like apparently uh recently there was some issue at town hall, somebody was concerned about something and he got somebody out there
right away and it looks like he also has done uh work pretty regularly at the at the elementary school. Um >> I didn't know that. Well, that that's the sense I got from something that I don't know if he said it or I read it,
but um and one of the things I liked is his estimate uh is a lot more detailed in terms of what he's doing. Um and I hadn't noticed this until after our last meeting and I was going through uh his
response. He actually had gone through our scope of work where we had questions and we were saying you know like electrician to get permits and he actually responded to all those things >> as well as um
you know last time we had noted that he had made the comment about the ground fault circuit interrupterss and I had used the uh spec that I got from Anna where it talked about this hospital grade and he was saying how that really was very unusual and not really
necessary in our location in our situation and it added quite a bit of money to the cost. Um so you know I feel and I think Jeff also feels but I'll let Jeff speak for himself that Puric um
seems to um provide you know he provides more information um he seems quite clear about what he's uh doing or not doing. Um, and he's a it's a larger company, so
I think we could if we had an emergency, I think we could expect him to send somebody out very quickly if we needed that. Um, I mean, Grace may might be the same, but um um you know, my vote at
this point would be that we go for pure because the the prices are so close. And um like I said, I'd have to check with Grace to see if he's prevailing wage. >> I tend to agree with we should go with
the chart, but why don't you review um what's not included in that price just so everybody else is aware of it. Well, the price the two prices are all the things we wanted done at Old Town
Hall, town hall, fire department, highway department, but no none of the uh emergency lighting. Part of that's because um when we went through when Jeff and I
went through with Poric um we came up with a lot of locations where we thought it might be necessary to have emergency lighting but
I don't remember this clearly but I think we had discussed that we the committee needed to be clear as to what we needed. So, we need to talk to um I guess the building inspector, whoever it
is uh that will be able to tell us what we need before we get uh you know, a quote for that. And that's what he had he had that's why he didn't provide a quote for that. He did provide a quote for the highway department emergency
lighting, but that's not part of this 10,650. that's separate. So, I guess what what we're saying right now is we would do the electrical items but no um emergency lighting. And one other thing when we
went through with PURIC, Len um you know was uh talking about some of the additional lighting that he would like, but that was never in on the scope of what we wanted to have done. I mean things that we're having done are things
to make the uh electrical systems we'll say safer >> right >> uh you know electrical panels uh sort of safer >> so you know what what uh
Len wanted is some additional lights uh outside the uh three doors where the engine bays are. And maybe someday we'll do that, but that's not a necessity or it's not going to make it. I mean, I guess you could argue that it
would be safer because there's more light, but it's a different it's a different uh safety um on that. And added to that, that's our um our going this money comes
out of our budget >> is if if he if we go with PTO and Lenny wants to put it in his budget, would we do that? Let him put the extra lighting in through his budget while he's there.
Um well, he gave us a separate quote for that. Um, I mean, at this point, you know, his estimate is good for a couple more days, so we need to respond. Um, you know, my my thought was if we
approve it, I'll get back to him and let him know we want to do uh what we're going to what we want to do and we're not going to do this extra at the fire department. >> Okay. So, you're confident, Jeff? Yeah, I'm
good with this. >> It sounds good to me, too. >> And me, too. >> So, I think we probably should have a motion. >> Yep. A motion to uh do I have a motion to accept PTO's bid to go through with
the safety electrical updates at the various buildings? I move that we uh use the Peturic Electric estimates that include improvements, safety improvements to town hall, old town hall, fire department, highway department for a
total of $10,650. And that excludes other uh desired improvements to the fire department. That excludes that and it also does not include any emergency lighting.
Okay. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> And roll call vote. >> I cook I >> am bush eye. >> McIn I. Thank you. Would it make sense
since we're not doing these extra lights for the fire department to just communicate that back that it's not included because it's not a safety issue, but if they want to pursue that through their own budget, they can and and perhaps in theory that could if that works out for them, then Peter could do
all the work in one trip. >> Sure. Oh, and um Jeff had asked me, you know, when we were talking today when um the two different electricians could get to the work and when I had spoken with Grace right after our last meeting, I
think he said it wouldn't be till January or February and Pure said um he could he could get to probably get to a lot of this like maybe later next week. Uh but town hall would require some um
coordination because they're going to have to have power off for sections. U and he was even saying, you know, maybe around Christmas uh might be a good time. >> Okay.
And I also was when when we walked around was you and I walked around with Stephen, I I was very he had when I talked to him on the phone, he hasn't been able to coordinate. We still have to fix the elevator system and he has a friend that does that and he promised to get back to him but it would didn't work
out in timing. So I think he'll push for that too to work on that the uh the fire system at town hall so we can expand that because we have that those monies.
Okay. Thank you. Um, the Knox boxes aren't going anywhere. I've got to figure I might have to have Lenny because I went through and did the whole thing. It wants a credit card and I've asked town hall and I've got to go
back to them and I might have Haley do it as the administrator. So, uh, we can get that finally going. That's all I have on that for today. Um,
I talked to uh the company that did the heating system at the library and they are going to send a maintenance one of the maintenance guys out to review our buildings um in the future. I don't know if anyone else wants to do
that. I don't want to get like one person doing we talked about that doing one person maintenance um but around the holiday season it wasn't good last holiday it wasn't good for them then we'll try to get they're going to try to get back to me next week for this week and um because I want them
to look at the school specifically um the school heating system is already over their yearly budget so far what's happening in and out I I would I don't >> you say yearly budget their their well they're their their
school year budget they put x amount in and and they've already going to surpassed it this year >> with the maintenance on that on that old system. So >> So you're saying that the school year we're talking from September to June and they've already exceeded the budget.
>> Yeah. And just because they've had a bunch of little problems. Um I told you about the u fan belt for the air system. And I haven't got back to Matt to see if we've got if that's that's working flawlessly. They replaced all three belts, but then they've had a lot of
tricking uh trick tripping, not tricking, tripping in one one or the other. And I'm not as comfortable to have Jamrod constantly go over there as an emergency
um and and constantly look at that. So that's why Jeff gave me the name of the new company and we'll we'll see we'll have another outlet. um talking to the woman um you know they also do mini splits and everything else and I know that
when I went around with the ECAC committee to do the evaluation with the the gentleman that or the company that the wrote up everything for the uh energy systems and he I think I told you in one of the other meetings that they looked at all
the mini splits and the ones that are older and the ones we have problems with was at the height height of mini splits and the technology and the machines are so much better now. Um, and I know we've got to replace two I think one at
fire station and one for the uh assessor's office is not working. And this is something they they also do. So like to get together with um with them and go around all our buildings. We can
cross country ski if there's still snow. >> What's the company? Do you remember the name? >> Um I just had it up and I just closed that window. See what's the name of the uh >> something steam? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh Frank. >> Yeah.
>> Um I I would very much like to be part of that. >> I would I would I was hoping you were going to say that. I was hoping we'll drag Jeff too. >> Royal Royal Steam. >> Royal Steam. Where else? Okay, cool. >> Where are they located?
>> H >> Where are they located? >> Gardener. >> Gardener, Mass. >> How far away is that? >> Oh, thousands of miles. >> You don't know where Gardener is? Like the furniture capital of Massachusetts?
>> Yeah. Right off the bike. >> I'm from Maryland. What do I know? If you go towards Boston on Route Two, it's where the highway is a double. You have two lanes. After you get through the the single lane, it's right right there. >> Yeah. >> So, what is that? Half an hour away.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. So, not that far. >> No. >> If you go on their website, it's really neat because, you know, they've got a It looks like the, you know, they've got workers that look old, so you know, they've been working around old machines.
>> Well, any any company that incorporates steam into their >> Right. Right. has got to have been around for a very long time. And if they know if they know Steam, they've got some pretty smart plumbers. >> Um, I would be happy to go, too, but I
I'm assuming my schedule will be a little tricky. But if you guys, whatever you guys work out, if I can join, I will. That might make the most sense. >> Yeah. And it what what Let me ask you, uh, what works best for people, mornings or afternoons? this it's going to take like an hour to do the all the buildings
I or maybe two hours so >> gonna take more than an hour >> more than an hour two >> and I've got to coordinate that with the school too so I'd like to do the start at the school um because that's the most that's the
the biggest system >> well you know I often have different appointments but Tuesday Tuesday Tuesday morning and Thursday morning are not good. >> Okay, >> that's that's a given. And there can be other times that aren't good.
>> I I'll find out what he what's available. It's going to be the service manager. >> Uhhuh. >> And I think that So, um >> I will tell you that often Mondays,
excuse me, often are quite open. Uh, >> well, we'll we'll that and I'll send a a group email out. So, that'll work. >> My schedule's all over the place, but it's um it doesn't book out very far. So, it's like next week and the week after are totally chaos, but the third
week, you know, I don't book out super far in advance, >> but so I don't know. I don't have any helpful information based on that. Yeah, but I was disappointed. You I get I'm on the email list now and they had you know the the thing one they have two
two boilers or two burners and one trip you know has been tripping out and if you look at the bills happens often. So we've updated all the computer systems. So I'd like to get a second opinion as why it trips. So
>> So when you say it trip is the burner shutting down? >> Yes, I believe that's what they say. Yeah, >> the burner shutting down, not the power is is tripping, >> right? And they have to come in and reset it and it kept on tripping the other day. So, it's something a mech. There's also
um when we looked at the um I I've been going over there a lot so I don't remember what I've told you but they had a uh they filled up the oil tank and uh the utility room where all the oil tank uh inside the building the
measuring and security and system securities and all that um filled up with diesel and it went into the school. Diesel smell, excuse me. And what basically happened is the device that measures pressure. It's a a pressure
gauge that measures it comes up PVC pipe in the hole in the floor. >> And that's probably where the this the excess came in. Uh Matt ordered 5,000 gallons because he looked at the
uh device to shows how much it is and it only took 3,000. So they had the thing on whole full and normally um they slow down you know like when you're doing your gas at your tank you know you leave it on high and then when
it gets to the end you slow it up and fill it you know tap it a few more times you're done. So that's what they do with these big trucks. Um, so they ordered 5,000 but they only got 3,100 and so it was on full and they would have slowed it down before 5,000 and the
automatic shut off happened which is um on both sides there's a ball shut off in the um when you add oil and that that happened. So that's probably where the little spill went. But that room has a lot of old devices in it that
none of it works. So, this is why I'd like to have like the second guess of uh from someone who's been around a long time with steam, whatever, to see what's worth fixing and what's not worth fixing.
Um, the fact that it said it needed over five, it's a 10,000gallon tank and it needed, you know, it said it needed over 5,000 gallons and that's the normal what they normally use. the order 5000, but the gauge was off and it's one
of those water pressure gauge things. So, it's not what maybe it might have had oil in it, the fuel oil. But anyway, so that's why I'm excited about the uh the new company looking at it just to see because it is an older system.
So, that's my updates on the elementary school. >> I have a question on the elementary school. I've received emails that they want to repave. >> Yes. >> So, what do they want to do? Because I'm
I'm getting questions from them about hiring engineers and getting bids and all this stuff, but I don't really know what the scope of work is. Do they want to change? >> Yes, they want to reroute the They want to do something with the bus system. You
know, how the buses work now. Anna would know this more than me. Do do your kids take the bus? >> Yeah. >> I don't know if you listen to the school committee meetings, but it's about the uh logistics of getting the kids in and out and the parents and all that. It just they want to dig that whole thing
up um and change it. They've also looking into uh putting I forget what the name of it is is uh the garage tops with all the solar on it would be another thing that they're going to try to apply for. Uh, so >> the garage tops with the
>> It's like you have it UMass Amherst, you know, all the garages have the uh solar on top of them. Not garage. >> It's the parking lots with the solar. >> Yeah. It's got a name though. >> Park under the solar. >> Yeah. Um because then they can utilize
that. Um so um that was my understanding when I was out there. And I have uh talking to Nate and um that you know I've got to still figure out I still haven't been able to figure out how old that tank is to see if it needs to be
replaced because I know it's older than 30 years old. Um, and I just haven't been able to get a hold of the uh I'll have to walk down there. The u the custom from many many years ago who knows all this, but everyone I've talked
to prince old principles and everything. I don't remember because it was before their time because that would be part of the plan. Jeeoff, if we have to do something with that tank, it' be nicer to coordinate all this rather than dig up that hole.
And who's paying for all this? >> The school. This isn't on the I think way back when if I don't know if it was us or the old school committee was we're vertical highway department's
horizontal. So I I don't know who would be it wouldn't be coming out of our budget monies. It would probably coming out of the school budget or the town's budget. It would have to be it have to be a special I think it'd have to be a special town meeting or a special uh
warrant on a town meeting to pay for it to get the money. >> Okay. Because we're talking some serious money here. >> Um I just I think you were instrumental the other day when he was on u you know you have to hire an engineer and you you
you brought all that up. That's why you get you get all those questions going forward. But yeah, this would have to definitely go through a town meeting because it is big bucks. >> Okay. Well, now that I understand the scope a
little bit, I think I need to email back to Nate. I don't think they understand how complex this is going to be. >> Yeah. >> And especially if this is this is horizontal. So, this will be chapter 30 mass bidding crap.
Wow. >> And this, you know, this is going to be like when we did the roof, you know, they're going to have to get a real designer to put together real drawings and specs and all that stuff >> with like a site site engineer like
Berkshire Design Group, an appropriate party for that. >> I gave him Bergkshire Design Group and apparently they're not interested. >> Oh, that's too bad. >> Yeah. So, um, Nate was hoping that they could recommend somebody else, but as of
last time I emailed Nate, he hadn't got a response yet. >> So, you know, do you know any good civils around here? Because I think this is a civil engineer project. >> Um, they're my go-to. >> Berkshire. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'll think about that. Um, I've worked with Levesque before. not recently, but he was good. He did some work >> Kohl's uh for WD Kohl's when we did um Atkins in North Ammerst, that barn. He did all the site planning for that.
>> Okay. >> Um I thought he was really good and he dealt with that, you know, that team of ownership. Well, >> okay. Can you send him a name? >> Yeah. I'm sorry. It just cut out. You want me to send you the name or you want
me to send him the information? >> Either one. I hear one. >> Okay. >> Because all the civils I used all came out of Boston, so I I don't know the locals. >> Yeah. Yeah. I haven't worked with them in a number of years, but it was it was good on that project.
>> Okay. A friend of mine was in charge of the massive addition at the Orange Elementary School. Um I'll reach out to him and see what they you what they use because they redid everything over there the same way. Um,
and Bruce was head of that committee when he when he did that. So, I know Gail Associates who we you know we use for the roof could do it, but they're all the way in Boston. It'd be nice if we could find somebody
close with the Who is this? Um, who's doing the uh the dam CV? What? CV something or rather? Who's the engineers on the dam? Aren't they civil? >> No. No.
>> I think they're might be I forget. They're out of Connecticut or Boston or out of Connecticut or somewhere south. >> GVW. Not GVW. Yeah. They just bought my brother-in-law's business. That's why I was thinking of them.
>> He's a civil engineer and he's licensed all over the country. So, >> cool. Okay. I have a question. >> Yes. >> Um Anna, when you got a price on the gutters at the T at the um highway
department >> Yep. Did they have any problems installing the gutters on that banged up front of the building? >> Uh, he didn't mention anything about that, although we did talk about the new gutters instead of the um the down spot
dropping in the current location, having it swoop to the side. So, kind of uh not on the wall with the overhead doors, but on the side of that so that at least it drops where somebody's less likely to back into it. >> Okay. All right. If that if we're talking about the same corner, like if
you're facing if you're standing in the parking lot facing the overhead doors, that top right or that sorry, the far right side. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. That was that was like an obvious like, oh, it looks like someone's bumped this a couple 10 times. >> Okay. >> Yeah.
>> And I said their number is no longer good. >> Um I think on paper it's not, but they've they've held numbers for me for several months. Yeah, it's been like six months, I bet. >> Okay. Um, if is it something where I'm happy
to ask them to update that if necessary or is that is this a good time to see if the prices change or want to wait till we're ready to pull the trigger? >> Well, that's kind of my question to the group. Well, we had talked about it last time and I think we had talked about going
ahead as long as there wasn't an issue with install on the front of the highway department. And when you and I went down there, Jeff, I couldn't see anything that would suggest to me that it would be
problematic. >> Yep. >> Yeah. He didn't have any concerns when we when we visited it the site. >> Okay. >> So, do we want to go ahead with that project? >> I think so. >> Okay.
>> What was the numbers again? Approximate. >> I have no clue. >> Yeah, I don't either, but I could pull it up. >> That's fine. Yeah. Well, if if uh if you can pull it up, Anna, and we could hear what it is, we could uh have a vote on
it and um pursue it. >> Sure. Let's find that. So, all right. So, I've got three quotes. The first one is downloading. The first one is for town hall and it
was 75335. >> Okay. >> And I had a couple. Do you want me to review the notes on that or you just want the numbers? >> No. What are the notes? >> Um on town hall we we had talked about
or some one of us had talked about whether they could be repaired or replaced. recommended replacement. Um, and also because the they looked like they've been repaired prior and those just tend to not hold up. Um, and just confirming that I was correct or the locations were correct on the back.
There's a if you're on the if you're standing in the parking lot facing the rear entrance of town hall, there's a shed roof to the far right and the far left. That's what's included here. Um, there's nothing in the proposal to do anything about water coming off the roof right over that rear entrance to town
hall. that's in the center because there isn't really there's no real eve there. There's just like a valley that kind of just drops in there. >> Yeah, you had raised the question um uh previously about whether or not to put a scupper on there, but it would take it
would take uh reflashing to get everything, you know, to make sure everything went into the scupper. So, I think it's uh you and I may have discussed that a little bit and decided that >> that would be something to have them do. >> Yep. Okay, great. So, we won't we won't
mess So, then that quote is good as is if everybody agrees. >> So, it's the two the two uh little uh shed roofs at the back, but then there's also up at the front on the left side, right? >> Yes. Front at the left side is that's the area where he recommends replacing it and not repairing it. So, it' be
replaced same location, same drop. Yep. >> And then um fire department is $1,882 and or $82.40 that um the only the diff uh a small
change there from original discussion was on the west side. Um he was recommending that there's a down spot at both ends of that gutter just because of the volume of water that's coming down. Um, but we met Lenny there and we're going to have he would prefer if more water it goes to the south than to the
east. So they were going to pitch the uh gutter so that it's it goes more like 6040 or 7030 um sending more water to the east or to the south than the north. >> Okay. >> Okay. And then I'm sorry I just have to
navigate in and out of these emails. Um, so then the highway department, the total price was $56,1.35. And then notes on there, there are two seams near the east end. He recommends full replacement of the
gutter and downspouts as those seams will eventually fail. So that is $1,319. If we want to seam again, u he would bring the seam a little farther than where it where it is because right now it's over a door and he'd bring it so
that it uh the seam is between the doors and that way when it still eventually fails as he recommends against doing then the water is not dripping at a door opening, it's dripping between the doors. So I'm sorry, I should have read that first. So if we want to do the replace the section that's bad, seam it.
He'd move the seam that's 561. He doesn't recommend this or we spend 1,319 and do the whole thing so we avoid seams. >> Let's just do the whole thing. >> Great. Okay. >> And then just to repeat then this is
where on the east end we're recommending that downspout wraps the corner and drops um on the side of the building instead of on the face of it. >> And that was $1,319 even. >> Yes. Um I believe so. Um
>> okay. So, I've been doing uh adding >> Oh, in 10 I'm sorry. In 10 cents. >> Oh, geez. >> I know. I'll throw that in if that's a problem. >> So, I've got for for the three um the total if we do the uh better solution
for the highway department, we've got $3,254 for all the whole job. All three jobs. >> Sounds good. So, do I have a motion
to go forward with the uh the gutters? >> Yes, I'll make the motion to move forward with the three quotes for Mr. Gutter, including the full replacement at the highway department. >> Totally. >> I'll second that. >> And that's for a total of approximately
$3,254 if I did my math right. We trust you. >> Okay. Roll call vote. Dallas I >> I blush eye. >> You get I Okay. Thank you, Anna, for
doing that. >> Yeah. Um, how is what's the process here? Do can I just reach out to Mr. Gutter like normal to tell him to go ahead with this and then direct the bill to town hall or what's the billing procedure here? I would uh when you can are you gonna
call them or email them or can you do both? >> Um I'll call first but I can also email. Yeah. >> What I'm saying is if you I think um if you email when you email them the the thing and then email Haley >> she'lling all that and she'll know what to do. >> Okay.
>> And then she'll >> um >> Can I get Haley's email off the town website? Yeah, it's greater. >> Oh, is that I got you. Okay. >> So, it's really easy. So, >> yeah, got it. Okay.
>> And those prices are prevailing wage rate. >> I don't I don't think so. I did not ask him that. So, I'm assuming not. Is that a requirement even in a small project like this? >> I think so.
>> Okay. Then I will I will have to ask that. I I didn't mention that to him. So, I would assume that it's not included. >> But the prevailing wage had was $10,000 and above. Or is it all jobs? >> I think 10,000 and above is you need
multiple pricing. >> That's what it is. Yes. Okay. Yep. >> Because even when we have the slate repaired over at the library, old library. >> Yep. >> That's right. >> Wage rate. And >> that was what? $700.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. So hopefully it's in here, but if it's not, then the process I'll get a new quote and just send it out to the group and we might need to revote on it. >> Sure. >> Okay. Okay, I'll take care of it. >> Thank you.
>> Um, the other thing I had was I got an email, and you know about this, Stephen, uh, because you're on that repurposing committee. I got an email from Rita asking about mass saves and weatherization of
MNSPER library and town hall. I went through uh buildings at shespbury.org emails is it only goes back so far and it has nothing there and I don't know
if stuff like this Anna's quote and these quotes should be saved onto the Google Drive, which that's shoot.org is a Google Drive um permanently there so people can look them up in the future.
>> Well, can I ask what what uh was Rita asking for? >> Uh if if I had anything on weatherization or mass saves on those two buildings. Well, we know that, you know, from 2022
when I was chair, we didn't involve mass saves at all. I think she's looking to see if we can get, you know, any kind of insulation work done as part of a mass saves program on the building. >> Oh, >> that's my guess because we we did I sort
of remember we had a discussion related to that. >> I could be wrong, but that's that's what I think that's all about. So, you know, >> we didn't do any of that. >> I called Mass Saves and talked to a
woman who actually lives in Coventry, Rhode Island. She gave me her direct line and um I'll go into town hall tomorrow and I can get uh any uh electric bill account number and she'll search, you know, anything
that was done to any building. they'll be able to look it up and if not I will ask her those questions. Um we might have to have someone come in and do an an energy thing. >> I think the question is whether or not a say a town building
can attach to any kind of funding for weatherization improvements. >> I asked know that residential we can do that. So that was that was the question that was raised at one of our meetings. And it can be because I looked into that
and um when talking to this woman, Lisa, she said the same. She said, "You have you can look up any town building. It's just I need an account number." >> So, great. >> And I'll I'll do the leg work on that. >> So, you're getting close to choosing
what you're going to do with that building? >> No. I mean what we what we decided was um that we the committee are going to and the committee is not going to decide. We're
going to offer options. >> Um but we decided that the first thing we're going to do is take a close look at town hall to see if town hall spaces could be more say efficiently used and
maybe um some modifications can be made in the use of the existing town hall that would answer some of the needs or concerns of some of the other groups. Um
but I I will tell you this that um one of Jeff's concerns was you know chains of use. So, you know, chains of use of the old M and Spear Library could uh require that we upgrade the building
like a bathroom for instance. So, I spoke with the uh chief of the what's the department, Jeff? >> Burkhog. >> Burkog in Greenfield >> or what you call frog. >> Yeah.
And um what I learned was I asked him you know about it and he said well he said the library is a the MN spear is a meeting space. It's a space to meet for books. So if it continues to be a meeting space
for committees or you know if say it was a space that towns people could rent you know for a party it's a meeting space then it's not a change of use and we don't have to put a bathroom in.
>> You talked to Jim right? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm on a I'm on that committee, whatever. And he's the most knowledgeable person I've ever known. He even knows everyone's zoning laws in all these different towns. Very very frustrated with Shootsbury because we
have so many different zone zoning laws compared to most. >> But that was really a wonderful information to hear. >> Yeah. Yeah. Kind of uh saves the town a lot of money.
>> Yeah. bring up to code. That's great. I think the only else anyone have anything else? The only other question I have is there is there a date when the books are being moved? >> No, not yet. >> Okay. >> Is there a plan? Is that like going to
be a community event of everybody like grab a box and >> walk it out, drive it out? Part of it was that for the children's books, and Jeff you can correct me if I'm wrong, they're going to line Lever Road with people and it would be one
person passing to the next to the next to the next all the way into the library. >> That's cute. >> That's a theory. >> That's cute. >> Not every book though, just a some some of the children's books just to be symbolic, >> right?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then moving the whole collection, I guess um Maryanne's coordinating that with other people using pickup trucks and boxes and stuff like that. >> Is has that been is that date have has
that been a schedule been decided on that or are we still too far out on the construction to really pin that down? >> I don't think an exact date has been determined. The worried the word is we got a uh occupancy permit yesterday.
>> Oh, awesome. That's amazing. That's great. >> But there's a few items punch list still has to be completed and um my understanding is there's some parts missing from the bookshelves.
So, it's going to be a few weeks yet. >> It looks >> looks great inside. >> And the heat's working, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. >> For a while. >> Awesome. That's good to hear. Thank you for sharing. >> Great.
>> Anyone have anything else? >> No. >> I have a motion to end the meeting. >> I move that we uh close the meeting. >> Second. >> I second.
I >> sorry cook I >> ban off. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you. Good night. >> Thanks. Byebye.