Where did they go? They went to some place. >> St. John. >> They go to St. John every year. >> Although last year place to be. >> Yeah, it is. Last year I think they were in New Zealand, but yes. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Okay, this is our agenda.
Okay, it is now I'm out. We have one more minute by my watch. Okay, I call the meeting to order. Attendance, uh, we're everybody's here except for Michael Broad who is away. I don't see him signing in. So,
okay. Now, the next thing is to approve the meeting minutes of January of our meeting of January 8th. >> Do I second that? >> Do I have a motion? >> I'll second that. >> You have to make the motion. I can't make a motion. I'll make >> I can't make a motion as chair.
>> So moved. >> Do I have Okay. Motion's been made and seconded to approve the meeting meeting minutes of January 8th. Is there any discussion? >> I got some questions for Laura. So these are your first minutes. >> Is this your second or your second? >> I mean second time.
>> Okay. No, they look great. We do. No, they do. Want to be a little more specific on a couple things. under discussion of joint meeting climate community grants up to 5 million. Could we could we add a description of what that is? I mean that's that's a specific type of grant, isn't it?
>> That is for the ground heat pump. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Just in the next line it pretty much says it's for heating system, but I knew it I I knew it was for something environmental. I forgot it was grand. There another thing I had here.
>> Oh, a greater. Um, greater with the D, not a T. >> Right. That's what I was going to say. Cheese grater. And I think there was I guess that's it. All right. Go ahead. All right. So just I mean so so like
just like claiming community grants up to 5 million for ground source heating >> source heat pump. >> Okay. Oh, under old library septic conversion for bathroom. What were we talking about specifically? What's that about? Do you
hear? Ah, >> we were talking about um like pumping these um well these septics >> a little talking about potentially
>> uh well we he was Michael was saying that we have to pump this one maybe ever >> because it's right right >> designed for a school with 250 or 200 kids or whatever and that we don't have that populace here and then we're is talking. We don't have any of that kind
of septic over at the >> No, we have no septic. We don't have a bathroom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Septic converter is probably not the right. >> Yeah. There's something more specific about what we were talking about, which I honestly don't remember what that was. Sounds like Nate has it figured out better than I do. >> Wow. >> Wasn't it a what's it called?
>> I discussed septic options for just trying to >> Yeah. I'm trying to think of what >> that thing. >> It was funny to hear Mike talk about his own. Really? >> That was an unusual situation. >> No, these look great, Laura.
>> Okay. Very, very good. Very good minutes. We thank you very much for taking it up. >> Yeah, it's not a fun job. I know. >> So I Okay, so now review the what's come in on capital requests and I have
paperwork up the wing one for all of you. start in the highway. I don't have much as we were just chatting about, but I'm going to pass you what I have, which includes notes, David's I mean, yeah, George's
email from David. >> Yeah, I just for >> Yeah, I know. And I just made copies of it and sent it to everybody. The the one lives one detail we have is the um
the pump that would be used to um that when you want to put >> Oh yeah sprayer. >> The sprayer. Thank you. >> Yes. But we but we will get everybody. Okay.
The school here is the Okay. The These are all I clipped them all together to keep them with each other. Fired. Let's go back in here. That's for
Michael. Here comes the fire department. >> Is it 6,000 each or 6,000 for both? >> I believe it was 6,000. What? What is that one? >> I believe it was 6,000 for both. >> Yeah, 6,000 for both. >> Yeah.
>> That's the snowblowers. Yeah, 6,000 >> fire home. Here is the uh clickers for the town moving. >> Those are the top of the line >> tractor wheels. I like it. Yeah.
>> Or >> I'm missing one, but that's okay. That's good. That's okay because he gets he gets in. And this is the piece that I think we saw last week that Haley gave
us on the uh on the storage of records. That is why I gave us 20 minutes or 15 minutes to take a look at them if you want. So if we have any questions then we can get a hold of the people and this tells you
also the who we have to have in discuss. I did not hear from the building committee but I chatted with um one of the members. He was over doing the um picking out the electric here of the and I said, you know, I haven't gotten
anything. And he said, well, we still have money from about two years ago. >> So that he's he does to the best of his knowledge, he's not going to be requesting anything. >> I do have an update for um school. >> Well, we're going to talk to you on that. >> Y
>> that's that's our that's our thing today. review them with you >> and uh so and we never did hear from LWAC but then again we've got other issues going on down there with respect to a what is it a sinkhole or something
>> damn thing >> we cannot use CPA because it has to happen in the fiscal year so because it's happening now we can't apply for >> right because by the time >> if something >> the application process is all starting
July 1st next year. >> If we know in advance from the design team or if we have some idea of what we might expect then put in for some funding. >> Do we have adequate funds now to do the work that needs to um
be quite expensive? >> I don't have the most recent figures from Gail. I know it's in the ballpark of like $73,000. So >> special town meeting possibly. >> Yes, we did declare a state of emergency
so we can spend but we will have to backfill right at that time meeting. >> Oh that's good. So we might be able to wait till any town meeting to do that. >> Oh that's good. >> That's good. >> Meetings are expensive. >> Yeah they are. They're extremely expensive.
>> The school things >> like that. If you want to just take a look at everything else and come and just glance at it at the moment and see whether there's anything else that you can see in there that
more things that are missing. Now, I was talking with Lenny, the firet truck, and of course, he's waiting to hear from people. But what he did tell me, he's basically got the possibility of three different trucks. Two of which are
standards. In other words, they're just a truck that's made for everybody. The only problem is they're too big. >> Because, as he says, one of them is so big that he l you literally could not walk around the truck in the station. So, anything you do on the truck has to
be done outside. The other one, the small one, is the one that's the most expensive because it is the one that is made to spec. >> Okay. >> And but and it it would very nicely fit because it's the same size as the
current engine. He's also priced out the possibility because apparently some people have talked to him but oh let's just refurb the whole and that without any bells whistles or anything else that's half a million. >> Well that doesn't seem worth it at all.
>> It is >> right. >> But anyway he and I had a very interesting chat on the whole issue of the fire. >> So should he have put the higher amount? He says that they go from between 700 to 900. 900,000 is a yes because that would be but but we can talk to him on that.
>> Okay. >> But uh it was an interesting chat because it gave me it was like okay great. So you you get something that's not specialized and it's too big and or big and you know it's
a lot of the cat the compartments are taken off which all of the fancy dancy stuff now you have to do for for Yes. Yeah. >> And and then he said that next year it's going to be even worse because next year the federal government's coming out with
more specs. >> Oh, so we really should try to do this year. >> Yeah, definitely. Because we don't want to get caught in more >> add another 10% to the cost. You're >> saying at least 10%. >> Yeah. Yeah. And uh and he already knows
that's coming in. So it was like oh boy. So you just overwhelmed us all with papers. Thank you. >> Yes, I did overwhelm you all. >> So I was wondering if we could just go down the list of what we think we have before we start. >> Oh no, by all mean
>> this capital improvement one here. >> Okay. Which is >> hold record. That's all of this. That's over here on our >> And so this is different from the clickers. >> Yes. Oh, that's totally different. >> All right. So, I want to get this on my list because I was just want to make sure I can show the income comp
everything that we're looking at. >> Want to make sure I got it right. So, Kayie, $6,600. That's >> Well, no. It adds up. >> No, it's total. >> We don't wouldn't have according to what you said one other time, we would not have to do it all at once. >> No. So the the representative that I
spoke to from um data tree discovery said that you can do it. You could definitely just go alart and pick which ones you want to focus on. I would really like to clear out this basement and the ones that are in the hall. And I had talked to Cat
Hilton and she also wanted to kind of take advantage of that too. So I think for me prioritizing would be down here and the department the public health ones because then that frees up office office space for Matteo. We can do a
little reconfiguring in there with the table and make it a better workstation. Um so those would be my two like I would really like to do that next year and then we can just kind of pace ourselves. But the the nice thing about the process is so that they take everything. They
scan any notes, they scan any sticky notes, and so they just go section by section. If you need those for like a records request, they will send it to you. So you don't have to worry about not having access to your files. And then they'll give everything to you on a
thumb drive. And then if you want, they can even shred them offsite. So we could just eliminate all this paper storage. Um, you know, I know that like the sphere community has talked about maybe reusing the space. It'd be a lot more functional if we didn't have all the
clutter and it looks nicer, too. >> Health 6,000. >> Um, >> hallway with 2500 and then the three downstairs. >> Yes. I guess probably most of I see planning
more the year. >> I think that was what I had put in my initial estimate which I thought I wrote on the sheet and then I realized I I didn't. I'm sorry. We could add it up. >> I can. >> Yeah, it's around 27,000. She's going to need the round number >> just for now. But again, what you're
thinking, we don't necessarily need to do it all in one. >> No, she was very clear. you can do it all like they can take payment plans like they were pretty flexible >> and so right and so we don't get a discount for doing all this at once these prices are >> now and I think there there are grants
too so like we could do some of it on our own we could apply for a grant to try to have um to cover more of the cost but like then that gives us like a really digital archive which we don't have >> like start with the hallway start with
something like cheap, right? Start with like the hallway, see how they do. >> Let's Well, that would >> cuz this like this would be great to get gone and like I said, if have you been to the upstairs meeting room? >> No. >> Oh, so there's like a little like room
and it has Matteo's office and it has this giant table you can't really get around and then it has this huge wall of files. >> It should. So it would free up his space, you know, because theoretically like you could put like another person in there, you know, if you really needed to or like
anything you want really. >> 26850, >> right? So that's only one part of that or that whole you guys >> I don't know. We need to talk about that. >> One of the but that's one of the issues that actually the finance committee would talk about, not necessarily us.
>> Let's finance committee make any decisions about any of this, please. >> Okay. They're right now finance comm. >> Yeah. Oh, well I would one other thing >> about this is that this also aligns with a select board goal they gave me when I
first started was to help find a way to manage all this storage. >> Have you talked to anyone that's already used this firm? >> No, but I could definitely do that. I think it may be an idea just to >> get references. >> Yeah, get references. It's always a good >> like the idea of just doing one room.
>> Yeah. now. >> See how it goes. See if the data really is is as accessible as you think it is. You know, one day just call them up and say, "I need this." Or or go and check the file and make sure it's there. And just test it and stress test it. >> Yeah.
>> So these items that we have here today, >> counting the parking lot, 1.2 million is >> And that was a guess, right? >> That was based on South Deerfield. >> Oh, that's right. Yeah. >> Significantly lower. I would. Well, we don't know that.
>> We talked to we talked with Carlos today. >> Yeah. >> So, we're just waiting on the snow to melt to get >> Who's Carlos? I'm sorry. >> Carlos is sorry. >> No, no, that's okay. I think you can. >> Yeah. Carlos is the uh representative from the Berkshire Design. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> That we met with Haley and I met with him recently. We walked around the parking lot. We described all the issues. We um and there was also like talk of um ADA compliance
>> and Haley is um put in for a grant. >> Yes. So we have a grant with um Ferg is helping us with to do an ADA assessment on all the town buildings because there are some problems with the way that things are currently now the sidewalks at the elementary school among some
other things at throat town. Um, I did say to Carlos, I don't know how quickly that grant process will move. So, he may want to think about including that, but it's not like anyone's going to be able to get out there until the snow melts, at least for the exterior of the building. >> And are they looking also at the
business of the tank, the water tank >> with the ADA assessment? >> Was that included in your conversation? >> Yep. We talked about the oil tank. We talked about the 13,000. So he's got the overhead views. >> Yeah. Good. Well, that's what I was concerned about that he had the overhead
view. >> I mean, if you go down the school driveway now, >> they've d they plowed double wide. So, they're plowing um the grass. There's a sidewalk there. So, we talked to Carlos about that about widening that front
entrance so we're not damaging >> lawn that that needs to get receded in the spring. like >> so yeah it's it should be a pretty good um puts together and he was pretty
conscious of costs and was really >> you know all the time I'm sure >> he lives in town >> and his wife is a teacher >> well Sun I was thinking of who was Carlos in town >> yeah no and he's yeah so he seems like he's very like knows what's going on and
knows the budget issues and so he's he you know we can work with him. He's not going to like it. And none of the things the thing that I was worried about was that >> um he'd be doing these assessments and they trigger a um >> you know of some bylaws some >> Yes.
>> nothing he's going to do is going to trigger an event >> some regulation that we're going to have to like quickly. I hear you. >> So that was kind of one first away from us. So the grant would go be applied against Carlos's cost.
>> No, that's uh that grant is solely for an assessment. So it's not going to cover any construction cost, but it it looks at the buildings and it looks at town policies. So >> yeah, the grant was only like 9 >> 9,000 and change. That definitely won't cover.
>> Yeah, >> but it could help do the assessment part and then that could be one less thing he has to do potentially. And we still have that 24,000 set aside for sidewalk, you know, could help.
>> That's something. >> It's money. >> So, when do we think we might hear back from him? >> Uh, he needs the snow to melt. >> Oh, so >> yeah, we talked we talked today. >> Um, he is going to swing by the school tomorrow and just do like some
preliminary looks, but you can't you can't get a good idea until that's gone, >> of course. Right. But we, you know, for town meeting, if we're going to want to do a warn article, >> might not be able to wait. I mean, yeah, the snow melts mid-March. Maybe he could, but we'll be cutting it close.
>> Yeah. Well, he we um we're going to check in again tomorrow after that. So, we can maybe get some more better idea if he can maybe get something by the end of the month or but >> more snow coming on the weekends. >> I know it's not helping. >> Two inches this weekend and then more
next week. This might be the real >> Oh, I will. >> Yeah, the roofs. Well, we've been melting lately, but you know, I was worried about the roof. >> Okay. Anyway, anything else on any of the other sheets that right off the top
of your head that jump out at you? >> So, I just wanted to mention to everybody, I just entered all these on the on the finance committee list. I reward them to look at the numbers and try to figure out how we fund each of these things. 1.2 2 million is a monster on its own. >> Yeah.
>> But and the highway is going to be a I mean fire truck's going to be a big one too. >> Yeah, that could be >> if I use 1.2 million and then 776 for the fire truck. The bottom line on our request is 2.1 million. 2.1 >> except it's going to be higher on the fire truck if they go with the smaller
truck because of the need to get it in the fire station. >> So what number should I put in here? >> 900. >> Okay. Right. So the number is >> Yeah. lot >> 2.3 million 2265. >> Yeah.
>> So that's what the finance committee is going to be facing and we're already at the max on debt in the budget. So I don't >> something like a parking lot >> financing that a debt exchange override makes more sense. >> You can spread it over the longer term
and it drops out of the tax tax bill. >> Now the fire truck, what is the term for borrowing that year? >> No, no, no. I think they extended it a while ago. >> Yeah, but I don't know if it was 10 or 15. I don't remember. >> I wouldn't want to go too far.
>> No, but I just remember that it was >> seven movie. >> Yeah. Well, maybe it's seven. I'm not sure what it is. I just remember they changed a lot of those probably. God, it must I was still a treasurer somewhere. So, probably 15 years ago. >> Well, that's good to hear actually because
>> they got smart. the state got smart and realized that there's no way you can fund it and you know and it's too short a period of time because the life of the thing is much longer than that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And the thing about the the parking lot we just kind of have to get that ball rolling. Yes.
>> There's so many things and >> and he Carlos was talking like this can't happen you know we have to put this in now because it may not happen this summer but it you know we have to kind of >> really start planning ahead. Well, that'll be good to know too when the work can be done because that can affect
when the financing happens. Yes, definitely can happen this summer. I think that he made that clear. >> So, it's not >> even if we were able to pass, you know, a thing in in April, >> you know, so >> we couldn't get to work. >> So, if it doesn't happen, it won't
happen in fiscal 27 then. >> It would be the spring at the earliest of 27, right? >> Fiscal 27. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. and you have to time it too with contractors are going to be wanting work. >> That's good from a financing point of
view. That is a really good delays when we have to come up with 1.2 and we can try to deal with and also with these grants with these like with these >> uh you know that heat pump grant like trying to like couch some of that money in there. You know,
>> I just heard on the radio on the television last night, they were talking about a grant program that's people just applied for towns and some of them applied for it for graders and got it. And then there's also
>> Yeah. Did we 50 David hasn't heard back yet? >> Oh, okay. Well, this is stuff that I mean this it was really heavy duty stuff. a lot of involved surge and or s systems and all that stuff, but it also involved in a couple of smaller towns graders.
>> And there's also something that um had applied for and gotten and there's another round coming up. I'll give you the information, but it it dealt with once again a lot of the towns are going for graders. >> That makes sense. And the state has been throwing a lot of
money at chapter 90 and general. They've really been trying to get the bridges straightened out. A lot of bridges that you have to kind of drive around, especially Montigue, but the state is really trying to get rid of that backlog. Yeah. So I that that makes sense what you're saying. >> Yeah. I'll I'll give you these. I'll try
to remember. You're not going to be in tomorrow, so I'll try to remember to do it on Monday or >> Yeah. >> Or you can send it to me. So I um so we had that big meeting to talk about grants again December. Um and we had to set the date for the other one. Um but so
basically I was able to go some computer assistance and create a like a table of different grant opportunities and match that against our capital plan and our decarbonization roadmap. >> And it gave like you know in the fall here are the grants that you want to
look at and then in the spring you want to prep this. So, >> we can get really organized on these things much easier. Um, something like that. >> Very good. >> Oh, by the way, I didn't have the grade on here. >> Yeah,
>> because I'm assuming it's was that going to cost us anything? I mean, it's not >> Well, theoretically, no. David said no. >> Right. Right. But I still got to put it on. >> Yeah, you do have to put it on even though it's hopefully not going to cost you. >> Yeah. Hopefully, it's not going to affect the cash.
So get everybody hemorrhages. But anyway, 2.7 million. >> Yeah. >> But you know, but this is a perfect example of where we've held off buying anything for so long that it's all coming back to bite us.
>> It's all hitting us still on. >> It's all hitting. But anytime is the wrong time for the sky of money. >> Yeah. No, that's true. >> And uh and you know, and it's just one of those things that we have to do it. >> Yeah. you know whether it's now or later it has to be done.
Yeah. >> And that should remain. >> Yeah. In his >> I'm just looking for the number he was giving us, but he's he gave us a range of numbers on that. I'm just put 400,000 in here. >> Anyway, so
anything else on all the all the stuff I gave then? Let's start with Nate. >> Um, so I have some update. I think I'll update. >> Okay. >> Uh, things like I talked to uh went back to
the school committee to talk about the snow blow snowblowers before. There was an incident with the the basketball hoop. We like kind of talked about that >> and I think we all like like no snowblowers the town doing it and we'll supplement
snowblowers. That would be a really big um big deal if we were able to save that kind of money and not have to get a tractor. The other thing was the gym. >> Oh yes, >> Jimmy Nate. facing the mechanics. Talk to uh Matt
Foster and Frank McGill with the building committee. Um and we have the initial quote. This is from 22 of 15,741
for the um gymnasium equipment. Um Frank and Matt and I discussed the possibility of instead of a mechanical one, a walk a manual one where you >> Oh, yeah. >> Um that would save a bunch of money. So
that is between three and $10,000. And I have a more of a breakdown that Frank um gave me. Um, but he's going to work with the buildings committee to kind of come up with that uh quote and that bid that could save us five
to >> How's administration and schoolfield that >> I think they're on board with I think they just want they just want to have it function. >> Is that going to impact the annual town meeting if we can't move the >> Well, you'll be able to move it. Question move it. We're going to be able
to move it from town meeting. Okay. >> The problem is if it's moved every every weekend, it's going to end up >> breaking. Okay. >> Um so they just want to minimize the movement. But if you had to walk behind one >> um >> it would be solid enough that you could
just because you need it. >> So Frank's uh you know his thing is uh quality for first for longevity. So that's what they're famous for. >> And you and so I'm wondering what it would look like when you pull it open
completely. It's going to affect those walkways >> down the side. I would I'm wondering how they would tuck it in, you know, because the width of that gym, that's a lot of curve. >> Yeah. >> So I'd be curious how that looks. But I like >> how they have it now where it's where >> if it goes up
>> goes up. >> It rolls. Right now there's a motor on a shaft. I know because I used to play basketball. Well, we played pickup basketball there for years and we'd come in and sometimes it was down. Go over there, the keys on top of it. You turn the key and then it just right off you.
>> So, that's something they're going to have to they're going to work out. And so, that's I think I you know I talked to you about at the library is like trying to get the building committee like in on a lot of these things for the school um and get them in the loop and that's
what I'm working on. So, >> good. Yeah. No, that's a conversation I've had with a number of people now is having one facility manager just keep track of the building so the librarian, the principal, and even Haley, they don't have to take care of the buildings they're in. They can do their own jobs.
>> I'm not an expert. I don't think you want me really knowledgeable. >> Yeah, I could learn. I mean, I think that's that's what Ann is feeling in the school committee is that we're spending a lot of time on on building stuff. >> And it does seem like we're going in circles of time. We've talked about a
lot of this stuff and we really haven't >> dug our teeth into solutions yet. >> Yeah, that's a perfect example of that is the paving and the the whole style >> paving. Yeah. Been talked about. The paving's been talked about for years. The sidewalk's been talked about for >> for even more years and 10 years at
least. I was playing basketball talking about it. Yeah, I know. >> It's back ways and and now it's the time to actually do it because we have to. >> Well, you don't want kids falling on the sidewalk. >> Don't want that liability.
>> I want to hurt the kids. >> No, we want the kids to be healthy and happy. We want the roads to be good, and we want a fire truck when we need it. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Well, so in my mind, um there's no question I'm I'm totally supportive of the curtain. I'm supportive of the
snowblowers for sure. >> I think the snowblowers, thank goodness, but rather than doing a tractor, which means one person operates, now you've got two people to operate, which means you can get rid of the snow even faster. >> That and those still have the tractor. >> Yeah. >> You know, and it's just that's on its
way out. So, >> seems like a win. >> Yeah, it does. And it's a lot cheaper than tractor. Absolutely. I was pretty happy to see this versus what we were looking at before. So what's the justification for the parking lot? I mean what and I haven't read this so
maybe I need to read this justification. >> Yeah. I'm just you know um is it and really it's I know we've had issues with I just want to understand the issue so I didn't talk intelligently about asking. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean
I know there was issues with the way the school buses are coming around. There's an issue with that, you know. Um, let's see. What could you like? >> Pitch it. >> Well, you know what? Actually, I think
we don't need to pitch it. >> Yeah. >> We have somebody who's going to do an assessment. >> That's when you're going to get the information. >> Exactly. >> Is So, this guy, I forget his name already. >> Carlos. >> Carlos. So, what who is what is this job? What does he do? Um he works for
Birkshire Design. Yeah, Birkshshire design group. >> He's not a paper. He's not a road guy. >> He's a landscape architect. >> So he's our consultant to assess it and give us >> and they do all three things. They do surveying. They do the design and then
they also do this like u municipal like you know meetings like town meeting stuff like figuring out how to how to pitch it to the town. >> Okay. So then I'm asking that question too soon. It sounds like >> there is though. I think what stood out to me in the walkthrough that we did is
like the buses. >> So, you go down and then the buses are by the playground and there's not really like a clear path of like where the kids should be going that is going to separate them from the oncoming traffic. And then because some parents get into
the mix, the school buses themselves are sometimes parking on what what is that mound? Yeah, that I mean that's where the oil tank is >> that on top of like where the oil tank is. >> So we need better demarcation and then some of like the sidewalk things like he
was saying that where the curb meets the driveway is not ADA compliant because it's too the grade is not correct. So it's not and you don't have the right turning radius. So if I'm in a wheelchair, the turn is too tight to get from. So those are some of the things that just stood out to me when we did
that walk through. So there's quite a I would couch it in, you know, making sure that we're not damaging anything under the ground, but then maximizing safety >> and the condition of the pavement itself in the parking lot. >> It's it's pretty rough. I mean, they do
patch jobs and so it's just, you know, those those >> frost tees or whatever they get, you know, they just get torn up again. You're just putting normal >> every time a plow goes over, >> you know what I mean? So it's just like you're throwing more pavement down and >> so it really is in poor condition.
>> Oh yeah, it is. >> We expected that. >> When was the last time it was paved? >> Yeah. And Well, this says over 10 years, right? Well, it needed for the last 10 years. 93 is when we did the addition. >> That's what I was thinking. And that was back in what year? >> 93. >> 93.
>> Yeah. So >> that's 30 plus years. >> It needed to be replaced 10 years ago. >> Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Right. Did I see that? Yes. Yeah. >> And I'm assuming that this will also include the sidewalks. >> That's
>> because that >> they all tie into it. And then we talked about, you know, a big part of it is drainage. >> Big part of it is looking at drainage. And then >> Yeah. Because we couldn't do anything if you engineer it properly. We couldn't do
anything on the on the driveway and the sidewalks until we re roofed the building in order to make sure the drainage was right off of the roof. And so now that that's done, now the logical step is to go. >> It's not just putting pavement down.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> Right. And that's why it's going that's why we're using 1.2 million too. >> Absolutely. >> And that is like I said that is from Deerfield Academy. Oh, it's Seville Elementary and their parking lot is much bigger than ours.
>> Yes. Just, >> you know, that's like 2028 money. >> Yeah. >> No, that's true. Just for that. >> Who knows, >> right? Well, well, I in his assessment, would he have an idea of ranges of the costs for the work?
>> I would imagine. I mean, he's been doing it a while. >> Yeah, that's great. I mean, we need to see that. And then that I guess now we're just wondering about the timing for town meeting. >> Yeah. And I think also like putting money away because you said that this is not like what's not likely going to
happen next year, but if we can put a significant chunk away then we can stretch that out over time. >> Yes. >> Unlike the fire truck, which we probably can't do that. >> Well, no, actually the firetruck given the fact that even what was it? the two
that were big because they are a standard so to speak firet truck that was going to be 14 months >> and the other and the if you have the specialty one which is going to be the smaller one it's even longer. >> Yeah. >> So we're not in looking at this coming
wrong then municipal financing if we approve it in May Lenny gets the order out by the end of May. Yeah. >> He's not getting delayed. Well, first of all, he wouldn't get it uh he shouldn't even order it until July year,
>> right? So, we're in fiscal 27. Yeah. >> Means he's not getting it till fiscal 28. >> 28 would be fiscal 29. >> I think you're well, it depends if the debt's 6 months and it could be late. >> So, it's possible half of it would be.
So, the point is from a finance point of view, we can really >> plan for these things. We got some time. You do have some time >> on that one in particular and the grater probably. No idea on the >> parking lot and the fire truck. The grater hopefully is caught. >> Yeah, I know. >> We might have to deal with that. I
understand. >> Yeah. And it may be that it's not going to be needed. I mean, we're not going to >> it's going to take longer to create the thing >> might be another thing. It takes longer. >> Yeah. Because anything big you have is going to take more than a year to
create. especially if you're doing, you know, the >> it's not like they're sitting on the parking lot. >> That's the issue. And it's harder and harder to get these things as we've already been told by mega people, >> right? But this is all helpful for us and the finance committee to try to plan
how to finance this stuff, >> right? >> Um because we have a lot of debt right now. >> I know >> we got three items and we're pray >> and how close are they to being completed? >> Two or three more years. >> Really? >> Yeah. But I talk about Now, we have the
uh we have the track at at the Oh, yeah. And we and remember at the town meeting, we also approved something to do with their >> middle school. >> Yeah. Their junior high roof or something. >> Middle school roof. >> I don't know what they're doing with that though because there was something about Ammeris wanting to pay for more. >> Yeah. They want to go over the
auditorium. And so, yeah, it's going to add to the cost. So, the Ammer said just do it. You don't bother the other towns just to keep it going. make it a part of what we've all approved. >> That's kind of weird. I don't know how that's going to play out. It's so
unhemer. Yeah, I'll have to see how that plays out. But so we have a debt service schedule um that they give us. >> Yeah, I know. >> It ramps up in a big way. And again, finance committee's problem, but it ramps up in a big way. It's debt
excluded. So basically, um, it's going to go in the tax rates. It's going to come out and it won't affect our capacity within the tax levy, but it's going to add to the Well, whatever. >> Yeah, whatever. >> I digress, but >> no, that's okay. >> Just trying to think this stuff through. So,
>> yeah, that's helpful. >> Yeah, I really think it's very helpful, but it's still not It's helpful, but I mean, we >> we're still facing it. Yeah, we got facing it. >> Well, you're you're in finance. I mean, one of the things I'm thinking is we
might be able to take some cash and pay down some of the debt we have now. >> And if we can do that, that creates capacity in the budget. >> Yeah. >> For the new debt that's coming. >> We got to run the numbers. We don't know. But we need to look at that and see if that's a possibility. and also
have >> Oh, incidentally, I ought to tell you, and it's not going to be much, but our Furcog assessments going up, too, because our EQV was higher than the average of all the 27 towns,
>> I believe. That >> Yeah, I was I was surprised. And what they did was anybody who was under and I think the percent was the magic percent was like 18%. any anybody above 18% >> has paying more and anybody below is
paying less. >> There's a lot of those small towns in our county that you know we're we got a lot of people working at UMass and so RQV looks pretty good. Oh yeah. Well, it wasn't. Yeah. >> But then you have Sunderland which is the highest because they had a huge
complex come in >> a huge living complex somewhere up there and I have no idea where that up there is like you couldn't believe the percentage increase their EQB. So there the top the top of the the heap. Uh
Irving on the other hand went down because No, the um what is it? Power plant or something. >> Paper mill. >> Oh, the power plant. >> Oh. Oh, you're you're talking North. >> Well, one of something anyway apparently
is not online anymore and therefore the taxes are down and the values out. I know it was Irving. It wasn't Rowan. That surprised me. Well, >> and so there their QV went crash basically. >> It's not Northfield, huh? >> Yeah, something in Irving. Yeah, I don't
know. >> It was Irving. I'm pretty sure. I could look. I've got the list. >> But anyway, just a word warning. It's only going up. Well, of course, also we're now in the um uh electrical inspector program. So,
that's another kick up. And a couple of the other programs have upped their fees like one of them up to like $50 for everybody. I mean, not not big bucks, but all that is bringing us up probably I don't know, $2 or $3,000, but I I'll
give it to you. >> I've forgotten to pull it out. >> Yeah, that came out. That was LA last week that was approved by Furcog. So, but anyway, it's just another thing going up in the budget. And do we know, and I know this has
nothing to do with us, do we know if there's anybody looking at getting out of Hampshire group insurance? >> Yes, Ryan's been working on it. >> Okay, I'm sorry. >> Um >> because four four of the Burkog the Burkog and four other four towns
have already gotten out. >> Um there's a meeting on Monday. Ryan is going to we're going to discuss it after. I think initially when I spoke to him last his feeling was not to pull out that the even though it seems counterintuitive it's better to stay in right now and that really when you look
across the board there's not a whole lot of difference anywhere I mean they're all going up pretty >> he told the finance committee he thought hi that he thought they were no he thought they were better than GIC in terms of the coverages they're offering and GIC apparently is not
>> GIC is only going up 12% % >> that's because for a cog with GIC. >> Yeah, Brian, he didn't sound like he thought there was real benefit to jumping. That's I know the legislature has a bill that supposedly it passed is going to help towns make the jump. If
they decide to, they're going to make it. >> Well, also we already know that the federal that the state government has bailed out GIC in the past. >> Yeah, I think they were in a deficit last. >> Yeah. >> So, they're not like a strong position. >> I think I thought that too at one point. I was just wondering if anybody's
looking at that because somebody else I want to say it was Deerfield. I'd have to I'd have to go over the mix again. >> Did it? >> Uh well, Deerfield actually went with the consultant >> and I I think I I may have made a note of the name of the consultant.
>> Well, I just hope that Ryan ultimately comes in with a lower number than he gave us first time around because he might be able to lower it. I'm hoping he can because it was not a small number. >> None of them are small numbers on that issue now. >> Yeah. one year after the other. >> Yeah, I know. Well, yeah.
>> So, >> okay. So, what are we looking at in terms of the school? Definitely going with the uh with correct me if I'm wrong. Definitely going with the solo. I mean, that's an easy. >> That would be great. >> I vote for it. Yeah, I would if we if we want. Do we do you usually vote?
>> Yeah, we usually vote on them. >> Yeah, but Okay. So, we're going to recommend proposals that >> that would be awesome. >> Okay. Well, okay. >> Okay. Can I have a motion then? >> I make a motion that we um recommend the purchase of two snowblowers for the
elementary school. >> I have a second. >> I second that. >> Any discussion? Okay. All those in favor, please say I. >> I opposed. >> Okay. So, it's unanimous. Okay. That's the first one. The second one is the mechanics for the cafeterium.
Now again that is down uh my new quote is $3 to $10,000. I have a breakdown uh from Frank on what those costs could potentially be. Um and uh the buildings committee is going to
put those costs together and get a bid. So that would be could be lower say a high end of $10,000 rather than 50. Or do you want to wait until we get >> I kind of feel like you want to wait and get >> Let's wait. Let's wait on that one. >> I'm okay with I'm okay with do moving
ahead with it and just get the lowest price you can. But yeah, that's what >> I think I think like you but you brought up like where's the where's the walking one going to go? So I think all those things need to be looked at. >> Yeah, >> that sounds good. >> I mean we can we can postpone discussion on that until later in the in this
>> budget cycle. Uh okay. And then the p and then the driveway and parking lot. >> So it sounds like we're going to wait on that one too. I think waiting on that to get back from the merchant. >> Right. Okay. So we only have the one that we've approved. At least we at
least we thrown one of them out. >> That's great. Taking care of it. >> Makes me feel at least a little bit better. One's done. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And uh now our next question is to
schedule meetings with the departments. >> Yeah, I was thinking for Dave. Well, and I was wondering God >> jumping up ahead here. >> It keeps budget keeps I mean his time is at a
premium. >> I mean, huh? >> Want a pen? No, that's >> Oh, we don't. They're all highlighters. >> They're all Yeah, they're all markers. >> People must have stolen them. >> That's right. >> Write down.
>> But for Dave, what I was going to say is I would just like to give him some options. >> Oh, yeah. No, definitely. That goes without saying. >> I totally agree with you. No, we have to give him options because of the craziness of what he
>> when he sp I gave him. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, now the next question is where do we want to start? We could very easily take yours and and I don't know who's rep would represent the town clerk. Oh. Um
>> well, it came in through the >> No, it wasn't town clerk. It's um yeah the um moderator we could take both of them at the same same meeting. >> I don't think they'll take very long. >> No, that's what I was thinking. >> Well, I'll tell you one thing about the
moderator is we could go to that mock town meeting and really see them in action and that'll help me make a decision. >> That's true. And when >> who did you was the other one? The moderator at the same time as >> me. Me Haley. >> Oh, right. Right. For the digital.
>> Right. I heard that uh Sunderland brought in those clickers and their meeting was when they brought it in their meeting was 45 minutes long. >> Hey 32 items, >> but it sounds like nobody talked though. And another question is
>> I'm Did they also go have a because they have cable access. Did they also have a cable access meeting before to explain what was happening at town meeting? I wonder >> because I we used to do that in Boilston when I worked there. >> Yeah. >> And we would have all of us would sit
around and the cable access would broadcast it and we go over all the all everything the money and everything. As a result, you know, our town meeting which could have you know 30 or 40 or 50 articles will get done in three hours. >> Yeah. >> And we had and we had a lawyer a very
good lawyer as moderator. >> So we moved it right along. >> But you need to have the public know in advance. totally >> of what is being considered and why and and discuss it or ask their questions
before we have it and we we can't do that because we don't have any well we do >> well the finance hearing >> and all the same questions get asked at town >> I know I know they do well because >> you think it's going to make it better but it does people who weren't at the
hearing and that's just the way it is. Yeah, >> I know. Okay. So, but I'm just saying that if we want to have the real short clicker or no clicker, >> I think it's a shock. >> Okay. So, when are we looking at >> I hear what you're saying?
>> Yeah. When are we looking at our first meeting, everyone? >> So, I did want to tell everybody I'm glad you brought this up. So the finance committee had initially had a date scheduled for us and they moved it to March 10th. So they would like to meet
with us on March 10th. So yeah, there you go. >> That gives basically 30 days. >> Definitely. >> Could we do them by via Zoom? Like a kind of like we have it hybrid right now. >> We could do we could do meetings. You're here.
>> Oh, you just press a button. >> Yeah. Well, no, you have to you have to be here to help. >> That TV is beautiful. >> Okay. And what time? What time did Pincom want us? >> Um, I don't know. I can tell you
>> what time do we start? 7:30. >> Okay. >> Figure 7:30. Okay. >> I'll send you I'll send everybody an email and let you know >> when we get closer. But I think more importantly is >> Yeah. Now we need to plan our Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> when was that digital um clicker? I'm
sorry. Clicker. Um >> I know. I saw it, but I >> I got it here. When >> I may not have the mock meeting, the mock town. >> Uh I forget. I want to say it was the seventh because it was like a Saturday, right? >> Seventh. And what time of the day
though? Because that's the day when we were going to have snow. We're going to have snow Friday night in the Saturday. >> March 7th. >> Yeah. >> So, it's March 7th. >> Do we know what time? >> 10 to 12 in the morning. >> Yeah. So, March 7th. >> That may not fly. >> March 7th. >> Depending on the weather. Yeah. They're
saying snow Friday night into Saturday morning. >> February. >> Oh, I'm just not. >> It still could happen, but February is not 30 days away. >> No, March 7th. March. Oh, I'm sorry. March 7th. That's okay. And what was the time on that? uh 10 o'clock in the
morning, 10 to 12. >> So, >> hear local people sharing their experiences with clickers. Honestly, I'm going to I'm going to call Becky and say, "Okay, tell me about your clickers that you're not want to hear about it." >> She'll tell me. >> Now, do we buy them and then we have to
worry about storing them? >> There's I think there's two models. I think at the very least there's a subscription fee, which is the norm for that everything now. You don't own anything anymore. >> Awesome. >> Um,
cash flow. Keep the money in. >> There's a total. So uh so what she says for year one it's about 5700 which includes 250 clickers with a useful life and 10 plus years IT
support and then each year thereafter it would be about 500 bucks for the >> oh program support >> I'm sorry can you repeat so you have to invest how much upfront? uh upfront investment is $5,733.
It really is $700 above our minimum for cons. We don't >> Yeah. >> under under what the rules >> and those fees as we know our streaming services will increase over time.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. >> We're going up. >> So all this stuff that she has on here, this order form, it adds up to 186. Oh. Um, and >> she had said >> said something about a trade in because
we do have some like old models that we got from Ammerst. >> We know. >> Yeah, I did. You're right. I did read that in her email. >> Oh, yeah. Trading credit of $22 for each handset and $150 for each working day system. I don't know what that is, but So, yeah,
that's what shaves off the cost. >> Though, this a theme isn't real. It's the upfront is 5,700 and then of course there's going to be the subscription free fee on the very top >> 20 3,000.
>> All right. >> Yeah. I'd like to hear from the moderator before I make a decision. >> Oh yeah, definitely. >> That's going to be on three 37. Doesn't give us much time. We're meeting with them on the 10th. Yeah. Meeting
with us in Yeah. We're not going to be able to decide at that m meeting. No. >> Well, I'm not going to be here anyway because I've had another meeting in the eastern part of the state that day. >> Then the other only other people we need to talk to were besides the moderator
and townator >> fire and highway. >> Fire and highway. Yeah. So, I'm available all month of February and except for the last week. Yeah, the last I'm I'm available next
week and the week after. And then um I'm back on March and I'm fine the first week of March before that FinCon meeting. So, the next four weeks, I just can't do that last week unless we do Monday. I could do Monday.
>> Week of the 16th is better for me. >> Although, Monday is a holiday, so we just have to keep that in mind. >> Oh, yeah. Right. >> Yeah, it's President's Day. >> Do we want to see if one of these guys can come to that meeting firm? Like
are we going to give him options like the Lenny and Dave or is that >> I think Dave we're definitely going to have to give options too. >> We should probably schedule Dave as early as possible so when he can't make it because of a snowstorm we come back in for another day. >> Exactly.
>> I have a school committee next Thursday at 7. But that following Thursday's school vacation that will be around >> the week of the 16th. >> 16th. Yeah. >> Okay. Um well, I have a personnel board
meeting on the 19th. >> Thursday. No, the third Thursday of February the 19th. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Do you know if they're going to put me on the agenda? Because remember I asked you to >> I don't know what their agenda looks like just yet, but I know that there are
some other personnel issues that they got to look at. >> Oh, when are we meeting? >> So, well, so what dates can we not do in those next two weeks? Um, >> I can't do next Thursday and it sounds
like Haley can't do the following Thursday. No. >> Okay. And I can't do next Tuesday. >> So maybe we can try and get somebody in on the 11th and maybe somebody >> No. Well, no, that's not going to be a good time because we're doing Devon Swearing in at the library right at 5:00.
>> So that Wednesday's out and I'm no good on Tuesdays because I'm either at the fincom or the select board. >> 18, 19, 20th. Let's try and do I mean >> Yeah. Yeah. And I can do the 23rd, too. >> Yeah, 18 is 18 is good. I could do >> 19 is okay with May. 20th is Sat the
Friday I'm >> on way to Canada. >> We can Can we do Laura? You can't do during the day, can you? >> I can sometimes. It depends on like when like I mean like which day and it's like hard for me to predict a little bit in advance, but I mean something goes on my calendar then it will it's I mean it's
good. >> How about Nate? Were you available during the day? It could be can move stuff around. Could potentially >> Well, it's for the now. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. If Dave's available. >> Yeah. I guess we'll have to figure it out. I'll I'll talk to him. I'll send him an email tomorrow. I'll give him a
phone call tomorrow. I'm going to try and get him on the 18th, 19th or 20th and I'll let everybody know. >> 20th. I'm not here. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. And the 20th would be you don't want to do an evening. >> 19. I have personnel board at um I think either 5 or 5:30. Yeah.
>> So, we'd have to be around that. If we could do it during the day, I think that would it would be easier to wrangle Lenny and Dave. >> Yeah, especially Dave. That's a good point. >> No, ostensibly, they're here working unless they took the day off. >> Yeah, but take our minutes.
>> That's true. We got the AI record. We'll save them for you. >> Right. I'll talk to them about So, is there a good time during the day, Laura? Like, could you go to work late one day or something like that? Yeah. I mean like so I could
>> go like the 11th uh >> 11th. Okay. We're moving back down. Okay. >> Well, I'm just Yeah. Um >> It's okay. >> I could do the 12th in the morning. >> Mhm. I can too. >> I'm going to throw one more wrench into this. Netty teaches. >> Oh.
>> So, she cannot do anything during the day. >> Well, yeah. >> Well, we still have the 18. >> We're doing far. We're kind of looking at Dave and >> just one for them, one for her later. Yeah. Okay. >> And then I think that's it for vential thing.
>> 20th like anytime during the day. >> Oh, that's good. >> But if you're out like >> I'm out all day. >> All day. Yes. I'm taking a bus to Canada. >> Oh, okay. >> You don't want to run. >> Zoom on the bus. >> Oh, thank you. >> 40 or 50 other people.
>> Yeah, it is a long bus ride, but better than driving. >> And Wednesday night, you're out. >> Uh, no, it's Thursday night. So, I can do Wednesday night if we want to do like morning with the guy next week. >> Oh, wait. What? >> 18th. We're looking at the 18th. >> Yeah. My only my problem during the day
is I have a mass collector treasures eboard meeting at 10:30. That's >> I wish I had a pen. I could write all this stuff because when I talked to Dave. So, what times you work for Dave? Wednesday.
We're screen savers. So 18th, Wednesday the 18th, anytime except any time during the day. >> Yeah, my meeting goes 10:30 to 11:30. >> All right. Except Except 10:30 to 11:30.
>> Right. I could I mean I mean I can't do that one until like three o'clock would be the earliest day. >> That's fine. But that's >> Well, so I'll try and do three. I'll try and get in. You know, they wrap up pretty early at the highways. So, >> no, I think they do four now. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, we could do whatever.
>> Dave, I'm sure. >> I have I have we have my husband and I have a Zoom at 3:00 to 4. >> All right. I'm going to try for 3:00. >> Oh, well then if you do, I'm not here. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> I'm looking at Well, no. I'm looking at the schedule in the afternoon. I'm
probably tied up until 4. >> So, I'm going to try for four. >> Okay. Try for four. >> That's four o'clock on the 18th. Now, Thursday the 19th. >> I can do during the day, but I can't um I'll be busy from like 5 to 7.
>> Laura, what about you? Same thing. No. >> Yeah, I can't do it during the day on that one. I mean, five is probably the earliest I could do. >> Yeah, I'm I'm clear on that day, so I can I can do five. >> And then nobody can do Friday. >> Yeah. And then what about Monday the 23rd?
>> Dave's going to be a long time. I think Lenny's just got one item, but I think Dave Well, I don't know. >> 23rd's good. I don't have anything. >> 23rd. I'm tied up at night. >> Um, I could do >> I could do morning. >> Morning. I could do before 10. Mhm.
>> Before 10. >> That's fine by me. >> So, I'll say I'll put down 9 to 10 a.m. Shoot for that. >> And then Thursday >> 20. >> Yeah. Back to that. 5 to 7 is out in the evening.
>> Okay. This Thursday the 26th. What's Thursday? Talking the 19th. Okay. >> And Laura, what was your deal again on Thursday? I'm sorry. >> Thursday the 19th after five. I mean >> after Oh, that's right. Thursday wasn't going to work. >> Oh, okay. Yeah, right. Thursday is not going to work because then Kerry won't
be available for that time. >> What about the 26? >> I guess you're away. Aren't you away? >> Oh, yeah. I'm going to San Francisco on the 25th. >> Visit the >> Yeah, visit the my grandson. Yeah, burned.
>> Nice. >> Yeah. Looking forward to it. >> Yeah. I don't blame him. I was talking to my sister who lives uh we zoomed the other night. She lives in the uh Sierras at 30,000 ft elevation. No, it was 70°. >> Oh man.
>> Yeah. >> Really? >> Yes. >> It's the thing. >> Tahoe has no snow this year. >> They really really sweating out how they're going to get enough Yeah. get enough water. >> I think the higher is buried. I think Mammoth is buried.
>> I don't know. I just know that they I couldn't believe it. She said 70. >> Wow. >> I felt like send it off. >> I tried to get my wife to stay for a month in SF. She's like, I don't know if I can do that. Hey, so we got the week uh March 6 to March 2nd to March 6. So
we got lots of options there. I've forgotten about that. >> Yeah. So >> March. >> So there ones can't we do Tuesday? You can't do Tuesday. Uh I'm clear on
I'm okay on Wednesday. I'm okay. Nothing on uh nothing on Wednesday. I'm clear on all day Tuesday and uh >> Thursday the 6th >> Thursday the 5th rather. Um I have a I
have rotary until 1. So after >> afternoon well Laura after three three o'clock >> on any of those days we'll shoot for >> I'll just say I'm going to try and say three o'clock on those days and again this is just for me talking to Dave so I don't know about Lenny
>> I mean Tuesday Wednesday is fine Thursday I could probably make it work >> if we can get Lenny and Dave at the same day first >> my brain will explode just one >> yeah that's true and it may not be that
tricky. >> I don't think it's going to be that tricky, Lenny. >> Uh, yeah. I mean, all right. >> He knows what he needs >> and he knows where to get it. That helps. >> Okay. So, what I what we can do then is we'll get a date from Dave and then
we'll schedule a two-hour meeting. >> We'll get Dave in first and Lenny in second. See, hopefully Lenny will say, "Yes, I can do that day." >> Right. >> And if he can't, we'll do an hour with Dave and we'll find another day for Lenny. >> Okay, makes sense. >> All right. I'll I'll reach out to him tomorrow. Well, yeah, actually um I'll
send an email tonight, but I'm going to be uh traveling tomorrow, but Okay. Thank you. >> Very well. Thank you. >> I'll let you guys know soon. >> We're doing that. >> Everybody knows as soon as I know. >> Okay. So, at this point, we don't know when our next Do we know when our next meeting is? >> Do we want Do you want to know?
>> Yeah, we probably schedule that one first, but then we also need to do the moderator >> Yeah. moderator >> records. So, we need to know which after five. That sounds like >> Do we really think Lenny will take a full hour with the one thing? >> Uh, yes, maybe. >> So, I feel because Netty and Mines are pretty small. >> I know.
>> Oh, yeah. So, you're think you're thinking back all three of them together. >> Bang them all out. >> Yeah. >> Well, so do you want to do that after the seventh? After the mock mock meeting? >> That's okay. I don't need to. I'd be happy. >> Got to go before the final on the 10.
>> Yeah, I'd be okay. No, I don't need to. I was just thinking that'd be a great way to decide. But no, I mean Netty can tell us. She can articulate it. And I am gonna contact Becky. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm gonna ask Becky. >> Um,
>> so when would that date be then? Should we >> the same one? Yeah. Well, all right. So >> now I remember 18th or like the March 3rd through 5th. I mean are the ones that we have kind of those afternoon? >> Well, Netty No, Netty teaches those she
like when we have the evening times. Yeah. >> So, Wednesday anytime after 4:00. >> Which Wednesday? >> How many Wednesday? >> Wednesday. Look like a clear one for everybody in the evening. >> Okay. Wait a minute. 218. >> That's true. >> Yeah. Let me get into it, too.
>> Yeah, I could do the 18. I just shut off my phone. So, just a minute while I get back into it. >> It would be good. I mean, the only person who is a full-time employee working during the day would be Lenny. He lives in town. I don't think Lenny's gonna mind.
Whereas Dave, I think, doesn't live in town. >> No, he doesn't. >> But he could zoom. >> Yes, he So, if we have the hybrid setup, then he can just tune in that way. >> I'll let him know that, too, >> because that's how we do it, like when he gives select board updates. >> Yeah. So, we're looking at 28. >> He's comfortable with it. I'm just
thinking he might have documents to share and things like that >> if he can. Uh, well, I can't do that if I'm posting down here, but if somebody has a laptop, we could plug it in and probably just host it on that. >> Yeah. Well, you'd be able to talk to them once we have a meeting schedule. You can just talk to him and if he has
any documents or anything, you could make >> Yeah, I could print some out that day and just Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Any of us can print them out, you know? I guess he gets to me, I can print them out. >> Well, he might not even have them printed. He might have things that he gets from contractors or or, you know, he might have
>> things like this. >> Yeah. So, okay. >> I don't know what kind of equipment he has in the highway department to convert. >> I don't know. But we have the copier here. >> Yeah. All right. >> Okay. So, we're looking at Wednesday the 18th. >> Mhm. >> And I'm going to need, you know, a time
and all because I've got to get that on, let's see, it's going to be two days before the time of meeting. So, preferably it would have to be done >> Monday. >> Yeah. Mondays during the day at the earliest the latest in order to get it
in order to have the uh work time on the law under the law. This has to be done for posted 48 hours in advance. >> Right. That's why we were all sweating bullets the other day. >> That wouldn't be till the like the 16th. >> Yeah. You still got you got plenty of
>> We got a week still. Yeah. >> So, we're thinking at full time five o'clock. We're just going to put that as like tenatively February 25. >> Yeah. I just like to get it done or you know as quick as possible just so it's done and I don't have to worry about it.
>> All right. And then we're just going to wait to hear well the assessment for the parking lot and um more information about the curtain, right? And >> yeah, that sounds good. And I guess yeah, make some decisions about
Digitization. Okay, then we're getting a little late. Thank you all for everything today. >> Yeah, I just want to bring up one thing if I could. >> Go ahead. You may. Um, so you know, I'm working on the the schedule, the the capital schedule, and given the deadlines, we're looking at
what we're doing for the next month. Obviously, I'm not going to get anything done, but I gave Dave a schedule, his schedule. He had not filled in the life of each thing, and I think his cost estimates. He said he'd work on that, but I know it's going to take a while. But what I wanted to propose was
that we kind of put that on the back burner until we get through this process and then maybe starting in March or April meeting, sit down and look at it and maybe bring people back in so we can talk to each department. Yes. Make sure we really get what they need because I got a lot of paperwork
and I'm hearing a lot. But I think we really want them to make the decision. >> No, agreed. So, you know, who knows how long it'll take, but to take us into the summer, but then next year hopefully we'll have that thing really buttoned up and uh just wanted and it's people are
deciding that that's important because that meeting when we talked about the grant for the heat pump >> for the school and everybody was >> one of the things that came up was we really need to look at a capital plan. Capital planning committee really needs to have their plan laid out for us. So,
I feel like there's going to be some pressure on us to >> that's great >> to have it done. So, I'd really like us to get it done maybe even before town meeting, but >> it's not necessary, I don't think. Only reason I say that though is if anybody raises it, I want to be able to say, "Oh, yeah, we got that." But,
>> you know, we might have to say, "Yeah, we're we're updating it. We're close to done." We could say that, of course, but >> yeah, play that way. So, I just want to get that out there. >> Very good. >> Thanks for working on that. >> Thank you for working on >> Oh, you're welcome. Yeah, it's not that. You know, if you got the information, it shouldn't be that bad. But ultimately, I
and I do want everybody to see what I'm doing before I get too far because you might have ideas about what I've been doing. >> And something else, of course, we have to put in there ultimately when the decision is made and what they're going to do with the old library. >> Yeah.
>> No, was in the paper the other day. So, they've been in their library 10 years, they still haven't figured out what to do with their old library yet. >> Really? It's about time. Well, I don't know. My my friend saw the article. She's like, "Sell the damn thing." Like, and I'm like, "No, people are going to object to that." And she's
like, "There will be somebody somewhere who want to buy it. Tell them they have to take it." >> Plus, plus the fact you'd better check on how we received it. There might have been a caveat in there. If it's not used for town purposes,
no. No. I mean, I I I can't remember if it was wouldn't have been the old town. No, I bet it was spared that it was given to us with a provision it'd be used for the town for something to do with the town and if it wasn't then it reverts back to the family. You got to check on that.
>> There's a committee working on that. I hope you're checking on that. That's you just said. >> No, I said I wonder if they would still want it. Like uh >> I don't even know. I don't even know if it's still a family. >> Well, was it 1895 it was? And it was it was there was a caveat on one of the two
builds. So I can't remember which one because I had to research it when I was treasurer back in the 90s. >> Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, that's something the committee should know about. >> As I say, I'm not sure what which building it was. I think it was that one though. >> And the only reason I liked my wife's
idea was because it could help us buy all this other stuff. >> Yeah. >> Right. Sometimes >> still Starbucks. Old people would love that. >> Well, I mean, what the heck? If we get commercial property, I mean, one of the problems we're having with our budget and the reason our tax bills are going
up is because we have no growth. We have no new growth because the state isn't going to step up, but not anytime in the near future. And so, it's growth and you know, we had a bump when the Wheelock solar power went in 10 years ago. Um, but there's been, you know, what else is
there? Maybe if Starbucks thought they could make money and a lot of people come through town on their way to UMass at 7 in the morning, >> get your coffee and your donut, you know, >> at a meeting place. >> $12 an acre from the state.
>> Oh, it's obscene. We could I mean the guys there on my road uh uh his name but the DCR guy they're they're putting in a slash barrier right there on Town Farmer Road and they're getting ready to do it and it's going to be a 5
acre plus spot where they're going to clear cut and they're going to take the debris from that and make a 20 foot wall barrier. You're gonna be able to see it for everybody on my road is gonna be able to see it from that >> 10 years. >> And we're getting 12 bucks a year.
>> Yeah. >> So it's like less than $60. They're going to put this monstros >> how much they get Plymouth Mass. >> Oh yeah, that's the issue. >> I mean that that seems like for that 20% of our town to be state land that we get $12 an acre. >> Seems like robbery.
>> It is robbery. >> When Aaron Saunders assistant was here, Aaron, did he show up? Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. You were there. >> I was there. I sent this whole speech to her. Yeah. I was so ticked off. >> She's like, "Oh, yeah. That's not being talked about." >> Yeah. That's what I heard. >> The stuff that brings revenue to our
town is being talked about. And I've been hearing that from Sandre Rep. Saunders for three years. >> Yeah. I talked to Mindy D on Sheal Rotary. So, I talked to her about it. Yeah. She She said, >> "The planning committee is talking about like data centers like were you looking
into that whole thing and bringing money? That's not f popular >> and that's not going to happen. >> In fact, in fact, Mike Dur, he had us do a another moratorium on it, right? Didn't we approve a moratorium on it? >> But Nate Murphy is working to get it
back in on the on the planning committee. I mean, >> it's worth talking about. You know, >> it's worth talking about. Why not? >> We got a substation down on they want to put it down on Pratt Corner Road. We got a substation they can lock right in. It's not gonna flow into Atkins pond,
not exactly. >> Yeah. You know, that's it. There's We're definitely living in an NIMBI community from what I can tell. I'm >> telling you. >> Yeah. And you know, so there's a we pay a premium for that in our property tax bill. Yeah, >> you do. >> Anyway,
>> it's very frustrating. And you have more and more people going into classified forest land, classified recreation. anything reduce their tax bills and it doesn't help us. >> And the the state has some bills out there right now to
help low-income people maybe get more of a discount on their taxes. And if you live in a town that your tax bill went up by more than 20% or something, they're going to put in some provision that's going to help taxpayers. But what they're not doing is addressing the root issue. >> Yeah. >> And that is state revenues are not
keeping up with education costs. trying to cover it with the tax bills. >> That's my soap box when they're right there with you. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate that you all appreciate that. I more people need to understand that, you know, people saw their tax bills at
Christmas, you know. >> Oh, yes. I know. >> They weren't happy. >> Do we want to adjourn like officially? >> Yeah. Okay. Could I have a motion? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. >> Second. >> Okay. So, we have a motion second to adjourn this meeting. Hi.
>> All those in favor? I. Okay.