Oh, hoy crew. How are you? >> Good evening. Let me pull up the um a agenda or agender as we said it when I was growing up. >> That's a that's a east east state
eastern part of the state. >> Yeah. But but it's weird. I grew up in Lever and Shootsbury, but it was we said nothing and faux and a gender. Funny. Yeah. I drive around like I'm from Connecticut originally, so we don't have
accents. And then I lived out in Tucson and they're like, "You absolutely have an accent, but not compared to people from Massachusetts and and then I moved here and like, yeah, it's hit or miss. Some people have
accents and some people don't. It's so it's so different. Um, who doesn't does it? Oh god. >> Yeah. And Mass, Mass is one of those states that definitely has its regional accent.
>> Oh gosh. Um, okay. I'll I'm I'm here. I just have to go see what they're dumping in my driveway. >> Okay. >> Holy moly. Oh my god. >> Okay. >> Just now.
>> Is everything okay? >> Okie dokie. Oh, I'm having an addition put on. I don't know if you were talking to me. >> Oh, yeah. Is everything okay with the driveway? >> You heard the holy roll and I think we were worried. >> Oh my gosh. Uh, they just dumped a truck
a dump truckload of boulders in my driveway. and they were back filling and I thought they were done for the day, but every time I turn around, they just keep going. So, they started um they started early this morning. Yeah. Neighbor just
texted me. She goes, "That sounded a little scary." I love this side of the lake. You know, I get alerts all the time for every kind of little thing that goes on. Oh my god, that's so funny. But oh, that is
>> okay. I'll have to check that out after the meeting. So, are we ready? >> Yeah, I think we'll get started if unless there's any objections. Um, >> uh, Matteo, do I have the thumbs up to begin? >> Yeah.
>> Excellent. Okay, it is uh July 23rd. Welcome to the uh Shoots Spring Conservation Commission meeting. Um uh tonight we will be doing uh as we always do with our meeting via uh uh
social media Zoom and um uh this meeting will be available on tape as well as uh its minutes in due course. Um uh tonight's meeting should be a short one. President we have uh Michael Mayor and Matteo. Uh the rest of the folks uh were
unable to make it tonight. Um and um we will begin with comments for the chair. Uh um I think I will give a kind of a brief summary on the sedimentation group uh at the end of the at the end of meeting under a unexpected uh
unanticipated business. Um >> so I'll go on to the second item which is the review and vote on the minutes of July 9th. Um and uh commissioners, do we have any comments on that? >> Nope. >> No.
>> Okay. Hearing none, uh the comm the chair will take a the guest chair will take a um uh a motion to approve the minutes of July 9th. >> So moved. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> Seconded.
>> All right. All in favor of uh approving the minutes? Uh Mayor Fox >> I. Michael McDuffy. >> Hi. >> And Bob Douglas. Hi. So, that passes unanimously. Uh on to on to uh Oh, boy. We're boogieing through here, folks.
We're halfway through. >> Yeah. >> On to our land management update. Um uh I do did hear today that um uh Scott was going to take a uh a deep dive with the folks working on the um the park by the
boat launch uh sometime on Monday. I don't really have anything more than that. Uh uh Michael or Mayor, anything on uh uh land management that you have as an update? >> No, I think Scott did Scott have something else in there. I think that
was the big one. Oh, and then the um you know, uh I just looked at the comments from um uh the town council, I think. Did Scott have anything else on here? Yeah, he's just doing it Monday at
the boat ramp at 9:15. Um that's it. >> Great. Yeah. So, I will I will try and get out there. That's uh I'm really excited for the the work to be that's being done in that area that that uh uh
park area and its trails are a gem currently and uh this will only make it better. So I'm really looking forward to that. Um if if there's no objection, I'll move on to um number five, which is the emergency certification for hazardous stream removal. Um, the way
I'd like to handle this is uh I do believe that um some of you are on on scene with that. If I could ask you for your comments first, then I'll share uh the our chair our chairperson Beth's comments and then we will uh we'll have
a vote. So, Mayor, if it's all right, I'll start with you. Can you tell me about your uh uh emergency certification uh inspection related to the hazard tree removal? So, we we got there and Beth had the photo of the tree. Um, we easily
assertained the tree is right on the um little inlet there where it's probably about maybe a foot and a half deep. Um, and it's within Yeah. inches basically of that of that
um that area. And uh it is completely dead. a dead dead tree right on the large edge. Okay. >> Right. And so and it it does lean so towards uh a little bit more towards the water. There's another one that leans more, but that one the one that's coming
down. Um it it has a slight lean to it. I'm sure they're going to have a company that will come in and uh you know professionally make sure that none of it ends up in the that inlet. Michael, did you have a chance to see the uh trait?
>> I just saw the pictures and it certainly looks dead. >> Yeah. And um Beth's report is consistent with you yours, mayor, that uh >> she believed it to be a hazard tree um >> dead uh and possible endangerment. Um
and um certainly I would I would add that uh one thing after being in this business for a couple decades, I've learned to respect giant trees that can fall at a moment's notice. So
>> uh so um uh I I concur with um Beth that it's it's an emergency tree based on the photos that I saw and your report. Uh, mayor. Um, is there any more discussion? >> Not at my end. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Hearing none, um, the guest chair will, uh, take a, uh, a motion to, um, uh, issue an emergency certification for the removal of the hazard tree on 51 Shore Drive. >> So, move. Yep. Second.
>> Okay. You know what? We're going to give the motion to uh, Mike and the second to mayor. um for the purposes of the minutes and uh um so we'll call the question all all in favor uh of removing the issuing it uh uh say I I'll start
with you mayor >> I >> uh Michael >> I >> and Douglas I so unanimous for uh issuing the emergency certification for the hazard tree removal of 51 Shore Drive. Wow, we are on record time folks.
Okay. >> Absolutely. Um uh I'll handle the uh number six in a similar manner. This is the update on the shoot public library 66 lever road discussing the rough vegetation reveation and removal the uh erosion
controls. I don't think this is necessarily something we need to vote on but I'd like to get uh your report and I'll start with mayor. Um, yeah, that I Yeah, I don't know if we have to vote on that, but um uh it was
Beth and myself and then Michael arrived um at towards the end. Uh um it was supposed to also be a little bit more with the um the reveation with Penny, but she did not show. Maryanne is the
one who sent us or showed us around. Um so uh there the 75% I guess is was met of uh and so the erosion you know we we agreed that the erosion control could be
removed. Um Maryanne um just walked us through the different trees. Um all the trees seem to have taken um except for I think I just saw one um and we walked just about all of it. um uh of the
property. Um the uh she said they are coming in to recede on the um the uh where the leechfield is which is
closest to the road. Um uh there's uh the library has got a new program where they're going to be doing on Thursdays um in the morning people can show up and help get rid of you know just invasive
species if you want to weed. So um I got something from the library that's just aside from that um just on that uh I think it was yesterday or so. Um then the um so yeah, all the erosion controls can come out. It was unclear who's
taking them out cuz I guess the highway department's difficult to get to do that. Um and then um yeah, we walked through the retention basins um are all kind of coming in. Um there's
a lovely growth of blackeyed susans there and it's it just looks lovely. And um there's milkweed. And um in terms of that last retention pond
that's or basin that's closest to the road um that has had difficulty because it was not um the you know Jan was Jan and I I you know she brought me into it when I came on to concom and I would go
to the visits with her and they just kept pushing it off and pushing it off and and then they put Um, and this is when they still had a trailer there. They put a uh um they put like wood chips there to kind of keep it from
flowing into the road if it did come out into that last basin. Um, and um that really wasn't a solution. So I guess Maryanne's dealing with this all
the time now like and so she has withheld their money. she has withheld releasing their funds. Um, not withheld their money, but she's she's not releasing their funds because every time she calls them, they talk they say it it
was done and she says, "No, it wasn't." And she says, you know, they just go, they get keep going in circles. So, it's not working. So, she decided to not release their funds and that'll get their attention. And um and then uh um
um hopefully that will address the matter. And and so uh um and this was a bone to pick with them, as Jan would say, you know, because that was something that was always bothering her about this last basin. And so it became
my goal, too. And um they had, like I said, the wood chips that they put around the whole perimeter. So they need to re they it needs to be redone um so that it is it is um properly but all the
all the flowers have grown in and and so now everything's kind of have to be ripped out. So when that will happen don't I no idea but Beth said that that is not part of their um uh their removal of erosion control does not have
anything to do with that last basin. um um all the the rest of it, you know, can all be removed. So, um and uh they still have a bunch of trees left to plant. Um but they're trying to do
that and fund it as they go along because of the cost involved of trying to find native trees. Company brought in trees and and they weren't native. So, Marian sent them back and make them bring in native trees. So it was Yeah.
So it's been it's been a process. You know, you think like her work is >> Yeah. You think her work is done, you know, that you know um but yeah, she's still spending a ton of time on it. So that's basically everything was
discussed and um Beth felt that as she probably wrote in her her notes that uh that the it should be allowed and uh and I don't know whether we have to vote on it or not. So >> yeah, so this is just anformational item as as put on our
>> our agenda. Um it does sound like if the proponents are feel that they're ready for a certificate compliance that they could uh file for that and that would be a future agenda item, >> right? We did talk about that and that it I think that that retention basin is
the last thing in order to get that and and so um >> well good good and bad it sounds like they're I know it's been a long long project and it sounds like they're in the final lap which is great news. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
>> Michael, do you have any questions or discussion on the um the library? >> No. No. Um, I mean, we've been up to the library a bunch this this summer and we've seen everything growing and everything looks like it's coming in nice and thick and healthy. >> Excellent. Excellent. Well, we'll anticipate then, you know, perhaps as as
early as this summer a certificate of compliance application once everything is is done there. Um, unless there's any um objections, I'll move on to number seven, which is discussion of draft regulations for the conservation commission of administered lands. Now,
help me out here. Uh, mayor, there were comments that came in from the um the town. >> Um, it yeah, it came in this afternoon and I didn't see it until I asked Scott. Um,
uh, came in from Matteo at, um, 2:30. Um, and it was Donna's comments. If you, um, if it, if it could be brought up, we could just, you know, go through it. Uh, I don't know how to do that, but
>> yeah, I >> there's there's a couple sections. There's one there's three, four, six, and seven. Or um, but I mean, maybe the thing is just to table it until everybody's here.
>> Yeah, that would be my preference. I, you know, it's it's tough for me to review things that came in the same day. So, uh, and I'm sure um, it would be for others as well. So, >> um, >> uh, if you're okay with that, Michael,
my recommendation would be to make a motion to table this to our next meeting. >> Yes. Yeah, I'm I'm fine with that. Yeah. >> Okay. I I'll accept the motion. Uh motion to table until table this
discussion on the draft uh the response on the draft regul regulations for um conservation commission administered lands until um the meeting on um uh is it August 6th
6th August 6th I think is our next meeting. Okay Matteo can you confirm that August 6 is our next meeting? Um, I believe it is. Hang on a second. Let me just pop my calendar open. >> It's not on the town calendar. Let's see.
>> Uh, actually it would be August 13th because it would be the second >> um the second and fourth >> Thursday. So it would be August 13th would be the next one. >> Great. >> Okay. >> We'll accept that as your amended um motion then. Mayor. >> Yes.
>> And uh Michael, do I have a second? >> Seconded. >> All right. So, uh, vote please. Uh, and I'll start with Mayor Fox. >> I Michael >> I >> and Douglas I as well, uh, unanimous. So, that that will be, uh, table
regulations and give us all a chance to look at them as well as the public um, there as I'm sure they're they're available. Um, wow. Good for us guys. Uh there that concludes our regular agenda and I just
wanted to kind of um uh if I may uh give a brief summary of um kind of at a 2,000 foot level of the uh uh the committee that I represent the conservation commission on which has the lovely acronym of SMIC, the storm water
management and imple implementation committee and very simply um uh we have a a charge to uh prioritize adoption and prioritization um of of different reports. Um look at
engineering permitting design, different uh funding, acquisition and management implementation and construction over oversight and long-term stewardship as well as reporting and coordination all related to uh storm water. Uh the fellow
members on the committee uh one one is the concom member which is myself as a member of the lake whale advisory committee. Uh there is one energy and climate action member a member of the highway uh department superintendent or other representative and another member
with a civil engineering environmental science or project manager expertise. So um and the town administration shall serve as a non- voting exeicial leaison to the committee. So um we have had uh during the course of our our uh of
course of our meetings a proposal from GZI to uh prioritize parts of the lake that uh are are we feel are most uh worthy of focus on. And um uh the last
meeting I was at we we had 10 and we asked if that could be expanded to 11. Um and uh that's pretty much my report at this point. And uh when I when I next meet with you when I next after our next meeting in August, I'll be able to have
be able to provide more details on the the direction of uh where things have been chosen to go related to um the advisor GZA and the committee itself. >> Okay. >> Now, >> is Mark Rivers the ELWAC member?
>> Um I believe so. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Um and uh I know this is Diane and Greg. Did you uh the Adams's did did you have anything particular you wanted to talk about tonight on our tonight's meeting? >> Uh no, thank you. We're mainly
interested in listening to the discussion of the um regulations for conservation land and um just any updates. I I just enjoy hearing about how things are going in town and and
trying to stay up on that. So, thank you very much. >> Oh, excellent. So, good. As you saw, as you heard, we we will continue that to the next meeting. And should you um uh like to get a draft of of what's been coming to us from the town, I'm sure
that's that's available through the the town hall. And I app I appreciate your interest. >> Yes. I would like a draft of of the regulations. And how would I do that? Contact the town.
>> Let me ask uh Matteo for his advice. >> Yeah. So, you can email uh land use clerk at shootesbury.org and I can send them to you. Right now, they're still drafts, so they're not posted publicly. But once the um conservation commission has finished their review of it based
off of, you know, their thoughts and comments from town council, then there would have to be a um at some stage a public hearing. And so there will be a point for sort of officially receiving public comments on them. But the certainly the draft versions are public documents. So I can send those to you.
>> Okay, great. Thank you, >> Diane. Does your property um is it all the conservation land start behind your property? >> It is behind our property. Yes. >> Okay. Yeah, that's what I figured. Um >> behind and beside um that would be the
footed conservation restriction. Mhm. >> And I I don't I haven't heard the last update I heard on that was that um the Kestrel was planning to purchase that in July, but I I haven't heard any further
updates. There was a question of the um the well and the eent the telephone underground telephone eent that are on the property and I I haven't heard any more updates on that. that building that's kind of like right
on the curve right above you that has like a tiny little building built into the ground. >> Uh it's Yeah, it's more of a a cap. There's a um there's an underground stream that bubbles up into the you know
surface and that's where Harry and Jean had their water. But I also learned that the two houses on the um the south side of that property get their water from that well also. Um
I learned that from >> my friend who father built one of those houses >> when she was a child. They that's where they get their water from. >> Ah okay. So, I I don't know if there was
any update on like the the purchase or what was happening with the well and I don't know anything further. >> Yeah, that's off of my radar as well too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I think Beth knows that but
because she was talking about at the library visit that um you know just that you know the general process of Kestrel buys it and then then the town gets the grant and and then buys so and then Kestrel administers it and but other
than that I don't know where that specific parcel is at this point. >> Great. Well, I'll keep listening. Thank you. Excellent. Um, thank you Diana and Greg.
Um, and um, is there uh, conservation commissioners, is there anything else we want to discuss tonight? >> Nope. >> And, uh, so, uh, it looks like at 7:24, I'll be asking for a a motion to
adjurnn. >> So moved. >> Okay. Moved by Mayor Fox. Uh, do I hear a second? >> Seconded. Great. So, uh moved and seconded. Uh any discussion hearing? None. Um we'll go to a vote. Uh
Mayor Fox >> I. >> Uh voting on adjournment. Uh Michael McDuffy. >> I >> I and Bob Douglas. I uh unanimous. Thank you all for for coming and uh >> making this such an awesome quick
meeting. And uh >> it is. >> Have a great weekend. And I know we're going to have some super weather tomorrow. All the best. >> Yeah. All the best. Take care. >> Bye-bye for now. Bye.