Recording in progress. The meeting is being recorded. All right. First on the agenda is comments from the chair. Um all I have is that the town did receive um a grant that I
worked on for the town. It was a multi- town effort um also coordinated through Pioneer Valley Planning Commission. Um, and it had to do with all the towns that feed into the Fort River, which Shootsbury has kind of a small section
that does, but uh, anyways, it was a MVP, state MVP grant, which is, um, municipal vulnerability preparedness grant um, and it was for over $400,000. And it's for all of those towns to do
more with covert assessment. And I know Shoesbury already did a covert assessment um with Furcog like Furcog or organized that whole thing. So we have some covert assessment information but this is for all the towns covert
assessments. They're going to um the money is really going to be to hire they're thinking grad students and students from the colleges to be doing the assessments and then to enter all of the uh the data into this um it's called the Knack. It's
the um North Atlantic Aquatic Conductivity Database and it's it's been around now for a number of years and um a number of states in the on the on the Atlantic side um enter
covert data into this big this big database. So the assessments that cuz when we were applying for the grant I was like well shoot already done has already got covert assessment stuff done and they said yeah but it wasn't entered into this database and the assessments
were done a little bit differently because they weren't done following the um procedure that the knack wants you to do. And anyway we got the grant which is great. Yay. So yay. Were the culverts uh off of
roads that were solely dirt roads or were they paved roads as well? It's the whole town. It's it's all culverts throughout the town. It originally it was for the Fort River. It's the basis of the grant was to
improve Fort River, but we decided to just it was just almost easier to do all Culver's for all the towns. The towns are Shootsbury, Pelum, Belchuretown, Ammerson, Hadley. Okay.
Yeah. So, it's a covert that goes can go under a dirt road or a paved road um all of them. And then who will um does each town get together to to figure out how that's spent or is it based on
the percentage of land mass in each town or or how does that it's so Pioneer Valley Planning Commission? Well, Ammerst ended up being the applicant. That went back and forth as to which town should be the applicant, but Ammerst took it on mostly
because they have the staff to um oversee a grant of that size. The original application was actually for a million, but we only got 400,000. Um, so they're going to oversee the grant itself and then Pioneer Valley Planning Commission, who was really the prime
author of the application, they're going to do all the hiring of the um I forget what they're calling them, but the the students really who are going to go around and and the training for them to go around and do it. Um, so
it's more I don't the money is not necessarily per town. It's more all the money is going to I mean PVPC is really going to be the ones distributing the money in the trainings and the and the paying the
hiring of all these these folks. There's some community outreach and stuff like that which actually the conservation commission is going to be involved in that. Um and then it's just all the culverts. So whether some towns may have more
culverts than others. Um, so maybe in the end more money could be being spent on those, but it's just that's how it's kind of organized. Okay, good job. Yeah, it's kind of it's good. It's good.
Um, and then the idea really is once everything's in the knack, you can kind of prioritize like if you're applying for a grant to replace a covert, um, you'll go into the knack and you're like, "Oh, here's all the shoot coververts and the one that's been rated as the most the highest need need for
replacement. That's the one we should put our money towards. So, it's sort of a pri prioritization of cohorts, too. Um, that's all I have. Um, item two, review and vote on the
minutes of the September 11th meeting. Everybody have a chance to look at the meeting minutes? Yep. Yep. I reviewed I gave Matteo one little comment on it, but um All right. Looking
for a motion to approve the minutes of September 11th. So moved. Looking for a second. Second. Great. All right. Um, Fox
I Con I and Wilson I Oh, and Matteo is not here tonight. Um, but he will still do the minutes based on the recording. All right.
Third on the agenda is um site visits update. Mayor, do you have anything? Um, no. I I did go to uh last week to the library.
Nothing's there's nothing changed. Um they uh they were I'll have to I'll have to send a picture for the next meeting, but um they were putting in a walkway
that um so the um pond that the retention pond the um so there's the pond that's closest the retention pond that's closest to the library itself. um that's kind of behind the library,
south of the library. And that's the one has to be dug out. But they are putting in um they were putting in a walkway that would go right up to the edge of that retention pond. So, I'm going to
keep an eye on what exactly they're doing because it um uh the walkway was probably they they then said around the walkway they were going to fill in lots of they
were going to put lots of dirt and then it and um and so I just want I wasn't sure how that was going to add up with the the retention pond because the way they just the way it was going was that it was going all the way up to the edge
of the retention pond, but not knowing what they intend to do with and whether they intend to change the retention pond at all when they when they have to um clean it all out and dig redig it. I I wasn't sure what exactly
they had planned to do. Um, so it might be something that uh now that it's rained and they're probably done with the walkway and they're probably done with the dirt that they were going to be putting around the walkway, which
was about probably about this much um all along the back of the building. Um, it might be nice to have somebody else come with me to better, you know, um, because I don't know the parameters of what they were like. I'm assuming that
they're allowed to do that as part of their plan, but because I wasn't on the commission at the time that um, this was all, you know, the library. So, I did I've never seen the exact plans as to whether this was a change or whether this is
what was approved. Um it'd be nice to see those plans like or figure out how I can see those plans and then um and also just uh maybe have somebody come with me for a site visit. Um
yeah, I'm happy to come. I I can come probably on your next visit. Are you going this week or I mean I guess next week or I have Let me look at my calendar. Um uh
let's see. Um I don't let me see. I'll have to look up. Um but the site plan visit to see the library. I forget whether I have one. I think I have another one scheduled. I have one scheduled for
October 6th at 11. It's It's probably a Tuesday. Um because uh October 6, Monday. Oh, it's Monday. Okay. So, that's my next one is I can Yeah, I can do that
at 11. Oh, no. At Okay. 3:45. Okay. Let me uh hold on. Let me look to my calendar. I'm going to have to go through and get to that spot. Um,
okay. Um, 3:45 you said. Yeah. Okay. I will um I will reach out to Maryanne. Um, let me double check that that's okay with me. when I get to that point in my calendar.
Um, yeah, that's fine. I can do that. Um, so 3:45 I will check in. If that's not okay, um, I will ask I mean I will get in touch with you, but otherwise I'm going to assume that 3:45 works.
Um, but I'll check in with Maryanne. Um, so that was the only thing. And then, um, I did Oh, I did the one for Evan Jones, too, but that's already coming up later in this meeting. So,
yeah, we can talk about that. Okay. Okay, sounds good. and I'll um I'll try and send you a set of plans for the library or bring a small 11 by seven version when we go. Okay. Um cuz yeah, now that they're getting to
the the landscaping phase of it, it's important to make sure they're still going to get in and clean out those basins before they completely Yeah. So, a lot what a lot of what I've done with Jan and and now on my own has
been we're going to do this or like or you know this is going to happen. It's always futurebased that they're going to clean out these basins and and so um I guess we're getting to that point where that's going to happen soon hopefully. Um so yeah.
Good. Something looking at my calendar that I just saw was that on next Tuesday, um there's a special town meeting at 6:30 at the elementary school. Hong Kong's not doing anything,
but just so people know if you're interested in going. Um I haven't looked at the warrant or anything, so I don't know what's on. Anyway, I still don't see or haven't heard anything from Bob.
I don't know what he's doing. Oh well. Next on the agenda, land management update. And Scott is with us. So, what you got, Scott? Scott. Maybe he's not with us anymore.
His phone. Yeah, I still see him on there. Oh, he's there. We can kind of hear you, but not very well. I should have a better connection here in about a minute. Is that you, Scott with the 413?
Yep, that's me. Oh, no. Excuse me. I'm 978. You're 978. Okay, we can hear you now. Um Oh, okay. Good. Just who whoever has the 413 number, could you identify yourself?
Can you hear me? I can. Hello. Oh, great. Um, first time Zoom phone caller in her. Um, my name is Isaiah Robson and I'm the potential contractor to do the work um up at Lake
Wyola for Clint. Okay, great. Thanks for identifying yourself. Yep. Thank you. Um All right. So, um so we're not to that hearing yet, but um Scott, sorry if you want to share anything about land
management. He's gone again. candidate that can you hear me? Okay. Yes, right now we can. Good. Okay. I uh I don't have a lot to
report. I've been checking in with um Haley and the town. I think last uh I knew they were working with Furco to better understand the contracting requirements to complete the work at
Southbrook and get that issued. And I I followed up a few times and followed up again earlier this week and I'm still waiting to hear back from her. I'm not exactly sure where we're at with that, but I'll keep um
I kind of keep on tabs with that with Haley and hopefully I' I'd love to get that contract out here this fall. And the other place that you're you're gone again. I can't hear you.
[Music] And I was hoping to have better reception, but you can't hear me. No, right now we can. Oh, okay. Uh the the last thing I was going to say is I was hoping uh that or at least things that I've been working
on. Um I know it's come up here where we have talked some about uh regulations land management for um the properties there around Southbrook. Um I I know there we've had
some old management plans that have been drafted. Um, I did plan to take kind of a collective look at all of those and see if we could come up with some consistent land management, you know, regulations around those properties, both the
properties around town beach and around the Southbrook and um and see where that goes. And so, um, starting kind of the compilation of what's been done to date and then hopefully I'll I'll have a little bit more to report back to all of
you on that once I I have a little bit of time with those documents. But that's that's all I have uh, Madam Chair. End of report. Great. Thank you very much. Um, yeah, I think I had sent you some of the stuff
that had come up when Miriam was chair, some deeds and things, but then I think I also mentioned to you that Penny said that Janice Stone put together some very basic management plan for um I think I think South Brook or for the boat ramp
area. So yeah, so those are, you know, things to start with and we'll see absolutely where go from there. Great. All right, it's 7:26. Um, we can start with our first uh
agenda item. 7:15 is certificate of compliance for Evan Evan Jones for construction of an addition to an existing home located within the buffer zone to Lake Wiiola at 64
Lake Drive. Um, is there anyone here to talk about that? No. Well, for certificates of compliance, applicants don't necessarily have to present anything. Um, I did send
around the application that he had sent in. I sent around the um approved and recorded chapter 91 application that that they got. Um,
what else did they send? Anything else? I think they sent asbuilt plans too. So they've got their certificate of compliance application done, their asbuilt plans and their chapter 91 license for the docks. Um
I guess the question came up about whether if the docks had been moved to a new location. Maybe I can bring up um still waiting for ball.
I can bring up the map. Sorry. Right. Can everybody see my screen? Mayor, can you see my screen? looking at it on my phone the you can see but you can see my screen on your
Yep. Um anyway, so this is a plan that came with the chapter 91 license. Um and it's showing on the bottom existing dock to be removed. Um, and then it's got the the new dock
locations. Proposed seasonal aluminum dock B, proposed seasonal aluminum dock A at this spot right here. Um, so that's where they were supposed to be moved to. Um,
I also have the asbuilt This one especially the one on the south got moved. Should have been moved quite a bit. Stop sharing for a second. So, here is the asbuilt plan. Let's see if I can zoom in a little bit.
Oops. Yeah. So this so the as plan is showing doc B in the correct location. It used to be way down here and then dock A in this location which there was on the
other drawing. didn't show where it used to be, but um and I remember we when he came we talked about this removable wooden dock part. So all the paperwork that they've submitted
all looks fine and meets everything that's in the order conditions. Um Mayor, you're the one that did the site visit. Did did you notice you know that the docks were in this position where
this map is showing and that um that all vegetation had grown in? Yes. Everything had been reveated. Yes. Okay. And then I went down after but um you know
when you had said you weren't sure if the docks have been remove had been moved but um I I can say that the the aluminum dock was moved but I'm not sure this that one yes but I'm not sure about
the other one because I didn't even um I didn't know if that one had got move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move move moved at all but Um, so I can't Did you happen to Did you happen to see this little wooden connector to this the bigger dot?
I mean, I I'm going to see if I I'm going to look to see if I have it in my photos, but my photos really um Yeah. Um Okay. But you're sure that
Yeah, that one. Yes. Um um looking at my photos, I um he just I mean when I did go back that second time um you know he just said basically that he
had they had been licensed. So, um I did not go back onto the property cuz it didn't seem that that was um what he wanted um to be honest. And uh
um uh and so let's see. It would be one, two, three. So yeah, the photos that I took don't really show any kind of wooden. It
does show um um the number. So I showed the terrace garden photo. So then I had a side side of the yard facing south, side of the yard facing Lake Drive, which would have
been west, and then plantings facing north where this kind of grally riverstone area is. But then I didn't have um because I didn't know about the dock. I needed to take a photo of the docks until after I had left. And I just took
a photo of that one dock um which would be in uh the last photo um of Do you want to share the do do you want to share the photos or
I I sent them in? I don't know how to do that. Um I sent them in to You sent them to all of us, right? I sent them to all of you at 4:24 on Monday. Yeah, let me find them.
I looked at them. I just need to It's just that I'm missing that second um I'm missing a photo of that second uh dock that he has. Let's see here.
I mean, you can see it in the background of the last photo that I sent, but it's kind of got to be zoomed. Have them here. If I can share
my email, yeah. Okay. So, okay, that's the terrace. So, that's facing that's the part of the house that faces towards Lake Drive. And this is
all terrace work that was done. Um, and then in the background on that one photo on the first photo, you can see um that when you see that kind of mini split there in the back on the right here,
there's like that's the addition and then there's like a gap between the existing house and the addition. And then you'll see like at some point when the photos are from the front that that connects down to like a couch, an
outdoor couch that he has that's like on a covered area. Um so that is um he had all that. So the addition is on the far right and then you know a
huge deck which that wasn't his deck before. And then um underneath that grass that's kind of those tall grasses in the middle there is there's like all these different like kind of couches and that are covered and um and that's where
the gap is between underneath between the addition or the existing house on the left and the addition on the right. That shed is his shed. Um, in the between the new addition and the existing shed is another little house in
the background and that's on property that is his next door neighbor's property which I think he has some sort of rights to. I'm not sure. And then so that's from the property line heading south. And again that's all the grasses
have grown in. That's the the shed and This is looking up that way. That's looking up towards Lake Drive. All grown in. Yep. And this is where like that there's that sign that I was telling you know that
says you have to have like a public walkway because of the docks. And then yeah, that's the chap that was a requirement of the chapter 91 license, right? And then in the background there's a tree uh to the right of that sign. And then to the right of that is a
dock, but that is the next door neighbor's dock. And then this is where I believe just um south of this yellow rope is where the other dock is that is not as um the
same, you know, that's not for his pontoon boat that I think is just kind of I don't know. And I think I think this riverstone was part of the project, wasn't it? I think it looked it looked in the as like maybe that was part of the project. Yes.
And then um let's see this picture. Did we look at this one? Oh, so here and so that um there's a dock. So the dock was down towards this like kind of towards where these grasses are
and then got moved to kind of like halfway down the property. Um, and you could see that. And then beyond that is it, you know, if you blew it up, you could see that there's another dock there, but it's not clearly, you know, shown. So,
and um, and then in the last photo, oh, again, that's the dock the where the pontoon boat goes. And then there's another dock on the other side of that. And that's the one I don't have a photo of. And the grasses were put in and everything is grown in.
Um, yeah. Yeah, I think it looks good. I think it looks great. All right. Yeah, I did look through the order and conditions um and I looked at the asbuilts um and I looked through the
chapter 91. It's very confusing, but um I did look through with that whole permit license that he got. Um and I I do feel like looking at the pictures too, obviously the vegetation's all grown in. There's no problem, no threat of erosion anymore. And I it does
seem to me like he's he's done everything that he was asked to do in the order of conditions. Um is that how you feel, Mayor and Scott? Yeah. I mean, I do. Yeah. Okay. Scott, you have any questions
about it or anything? I don't. Okay. All right. Then I will take a motion to issue the certificate of compliance for D number 286303
for 64 Lake Drive. So move. All right. Second. Great. All right. Uh Khan I and Fox I and Wilson I
Great. and 7:43 we can uh do our 7:30 item. So I'm uh opening the hearing for the notice of intent for Clinton Claziac uh for construction of a retaining wall/bank
and filing for a seasonal dock at 73 Shore Drive T number 2860309. And I see Ward. Hi Ward. How are we doing? pretty good. So, Ward Smith, good Wendle Wetland Services and we have
Isaiah, as you talked to him earlier on the line, who who will in all likelihood be doing the the work. Um, we've got an existing beach area about 15 feet of
bank with a deteriorated little stone wall between the lawn and the beach area. and he would just like to make about a two-ft high little stone retaining wall there that looks better than what's there. Um, no significant
change to that. But as part of this, there is a dock that's not permitted. So, we've added that into the filing. Um, and I know the commission has typical conditions that you put in that you need a chapter 91 waterways license in order to get a certificate of
compliance. So that's we we he understands that. I've explained that to him, so he's okay with that. Um DP, we we just heard back from Natural Heritage yesterday, which I was kind of surprised that they they were timely. Um they have
no no take for the project. So that's good. Um DP, I'm sure you've looked at DP. They have issued a file number. They said we you the commission can require additional native vegetation. Um he's not opposed to some of that.
Obviously he doesn't want any of that at the beach area. It's just a small little beach. So that but if if I don't know if you have any pictures if you did a site v visit and took any shots but most of the bank is relatively natural. There is
a retaining wall there but it's kind of a broken down retaining wall with a lot of natural vegetation. So most of the bank at this site is relatively natural. There are no trees but there are small like meadowed and stuff like that and a
lot of herbaceous plants but if the commission requires some uh shrub plantings he is willing to do that. Yeah I um I do have a picture we were there today. Mayor and I stopped by there today. Um, there's also a picture
with the application. That be easier to look at because I can just pull that up. Yeah, that that just shows the work area though. It doesn't really show I should have taken some other pictures of the rest of the bank, but um maybe mine's a little
have to send it to myself, email it to myself. The other thing I failed to mention is, you know, obviously the work would only be done when the lake is drawn down. Um sediment and erosion control would be put in, you know, kind of at the bottom of the beach area between the proposed
work and and the lake. Um access would for a small machine he has permission to to access through an abuing property because this property if you look there's no way to get down from the road to the lawn. Um but there is way a way
on is a butter's property and as a butter said that's okay. Butter to the north. So, as you're looking at the site to the right. Okay. So, he had he he thought it he thought
it through pretty well. And Isaiah's here can answer any of your questions on the actual construction. Um it's a pretty as far as wall projects go, this one's pretty minor. I know you have a lot of them on the lake.
Yeah. So, I emailed myself a photo. So, we're waiting for it to show up. Um, yeah, we were talking about plantings and Mhm. Yeah.
some of the same kind of natural plantings that were already there. Yeah. Yeah, I noticed the neighbor to the south had had some um a bit more maybe kind of uh rooted uh plantings,
you know, some more bushes and stuff like that that are that are that stabilize the bank a little bit a little bit better. Um so something like that would be great. But yeah, I'm waiting for the picture so we can look at it. Why didn't it work? As I said, we discussed it and he's
aware that it could be a requirement. He's not opposed to it. Okay. waiting for the photo to go from my phone to my email. It's taking forever. I don't know why. Um, but I guess one question I have is,
um, so I think I said in the application that you're going to be reusing a lot of the stones that are there. Mhm. Are you also going to be u bringing in more stone and more material? Isaiah should answer that question. Isaiah.
Yes, we we would definitely bring in some more stone. Um mostly to be able to create a flat top on the cap. As Ward mentioned, we're aiming to be at about two feet tall. And so it just would be
kind of nice if the top of the wall was flat so that people could sit on it, you know, and kind of enjoy the space in that way. So we're not aiming, you know, obviously Ward said it's a relatively small Stonewall project.
It's it's not like we're going to have I mean, you can see from the from the photos like we're going to bring in maybe a ton or two of stone and we would bring in some smaller stone. um like angular rip wrap like you know probably 3 inch or something like that to use
behind the wall to support the larger capstones. Um I say larger but that might be like a two foot by two foot piece you know just to have something nice to sit on. And the length I know you sent you did
have a map that showed the the lengths and stuff, but um is it gonna is it going to be the same length basically of the open area now? That's like the beach. You're not extending the beach at all. You're just building something that's the same length.
Same same thing. It's basically just redoing what's there and making it more more aesthetically pleasing. And um so there won't be any erosion or anything. that bank is kind embankment is kind of you know people walking down that it's kind of eroded a little bit
over time. So it's two two purposes. One to stabilize but also so that it's aesthetically pleasing. It looks good. Okay. And the water does does the water come up to where the embankment is going
to be or Yeah. Maybe it maybe in a flood but not normally. So the embankment is kind of if you look at the picture there's a beach there's quite a beach a small beach but there's a beach between the water water level and the wall.
I wouldn't say the water would I I wouldn't say that the water is never going to be at the bottom of that wall but I would say the normal high water line is not going to be to the wall. Okay. I don't know what happened to that picture.
My technology is not my friend tonight. Can you pull the one up from the my letter? Yeah, I think so. It's probably be easier. Oh, yeah. It's on the the email that you
sent out on Tuesday. Um the one that you know it says forward notice of intent 73 shore drive. There's the photo right there under Yeah, I got it. You got it. Okay, good. Yeah, there you go. Perfect.
Yeah. So, um yeah. So, uh we're just thinking some plantings more along this southern um piece of shoreline and and also the
north or there these short little areas to the north and south of the beach that are still on their property. Yes. Yes. So, it's about So, it's about um you know, based on the plan, 17 feet of of shoreline to the north of that little beach area and 18 feet to the
south um within which is the dock. So you want to do six foot spacing and figure out so you know come up with yeah you'd want to you'd want to leave an opening to get to the dock so it
wouldn't be the whole you know it wouldn't be the whole length but the dock is just to the south of that isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So if if if I if if I ignored the dot and just took that distance and
divided by six, you get 5.8. So six shrubs, which seems six feet is kind of a standard spacing for a shrub. Gives them room to grow. I mean, it's up to the commission. I'm just saying that's not unreasonable.
That to me that sounds great. I love that idea. Um, and I I we would leave it up to you to I think to identify. Okay. Do you want Do you want to just condition it that it would be native wetland? Not doesn't have to be wetland.
Probably should be though, but native uh plants just something like what was already there. Like as you can see in in this photo at the top, you know, something that doesn't have is really low to the ground but just holds everything in is what
y we what you know what's already there is is you know it doesn't have to be an actual like kind of shrub. Right. Right Beth? Um I think in in this if you look to the yard to the south they had more like
shrubs. This yard seemed to have more grasses and kind of things. And I think having something a little bit more stable, a little taller. Um, shrubs are great. Short short shrubs, you know, but native. Um, and like you said, it could be wetland wetland, but they don't have
to be necessarily because they're they're going to be on the bank really. Yeah. Okay. I'll take a look through. I'm thinking like I think there's meadow there. You know, high bush blueberry is always good. You know, there's there's a bunch you could put in there, but like it not something that would
really obstruct any kind of view if you were sitting there at right, you know? Yep. You know what I mean? Like I'm sure people wouldn't want that. If you could if you could specify that in the conditions, low to the ground shrubs, that would be great. Just so just so that he knows that you're not
asking you them to put in, you know, winter berry holls that are going to grow up to be 10 feet, you know. Exactly. which would be nice, but that's we want alder 25 foot. Yeah, alder. Aldder would be perfect in there.
I love alder, but it is large. That would be great. Yeah. No, that sounds that sounds great. I I love that condition. I'm glad that you're willing and and the owner's willing. Well, Mark Sinson put that in there and I went back and I don't know how I had
missed this in the the regulations, but the last revision of the regulations added that it says in I can't remember exactly what it says, but that the commission can require that for areas that have been altered up to the
resource area. So, it's actually in the regulations that you can I mean, you can require anything, but I mean it's this is, you know, if somebody were to appeal it, it would be upheld by the D. It would be upheld by courts because it's
in the regulations as something that you're allowed to do. Yeah. Yeah. And under our bylaw, anything within 50 feet, you know, we've got we've got our 50 foot setback. So, if you're if there's impacts Yeah. Yeah, within that then we can ask for
mitigation. So, yes. And and the fact that you're willing to say that they low to the ground shrubs, I think that's everybody should be happy with that. Okay, great. That sounds good. And I I the way I understand the chapter 91
thing is that also sort of in our conditions, we say that that we are we we approve the dock in terms of its impact on wetlands. you know, we've reviewed it, you know, in terms of the Wetlands Protection Act and in terms of our bylaw. They they kind of want to see
that written in there. We've gone through that whole thing before where they they go to make their approval and they're like, "We need an order of conditions that says that it's been looked at, right, in regard to the So, I'll be sure to add something in the conditions, too, that says we
we looked at the dock and and are okay with it for I know it's a sticky wicket because we've got how many docks out there that have, you know, most of them don't have permits." Yeah. But it's a slow slow process. Yeah.
when people come for things like this. Yes, that's I explained it all to him. He's fine with it. That's great. That's awesome. Um I don't think I had any other notes on
this one. Well, Mayor or Scott, do you guys have any any other questions or concerns? No, I do not. Great. All right. Uh, any comments from the
public? I see just Mary, David. All right. Looking for a motion to close the public hearing and is issue the order conditions for
um 73 Shore Drive D number 286309. So moved. All right. Second. Second. All right. Fox I
Con I and Wilson I Right. Great. And we'll put together the order of conditions. And what I usually do is I bring them back to the next meeting and you're you are welcome to come and
just take a quick we I just like to have the commission look at them and um just to see if they have any comments or changes or anything and and you're welcome to come to that meeting. It's on uh when is our next meeting?
The 9th, I think. Yeah, October 9th. Okay. Um, great. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Have a good night. Thank you. Thank you.
All right. Um, then last on our agenda is unanticipated business. I think that's why Mary is here, Mary David. Um, something that's come up in the last 48 hours is um an
emergency start to take a tree down. Um, I don't even have the address. Mary, do you have the address for Arlene's house? I think it's uh 13 13 Cove Road or is it? Yeah, 13 Cove Road. Okay.
Um, those pictures that Mary sent me are in a text. Uh, that's even more complicated. I don't know why when I emailed that other picture, it never showed up in my email
cuz on my phone it shows that it got sent. I don't get it. Um anyway, let me Oh, Tom Seaffort is back. Let me try emailing these again. See if it works.
I must done something wrong with the other one cuz that worked. All right, let's see if we can look at some pictures of the tree. All right. So, I believe it's this large pine tree, right, Mary?
Yes. That's got Yeah, the one that's got the split in it, right? Which is always very dangerous. Um, so I don't Mary, do you want to present?
I can do it for her. So, um, it's basically this tree that's kind of split in two here. As you can see, it's gotten very topheavy and with the winds and everything right there off the lake. Um, it's blowing over her house, but it's
also if it came down and fell, you can't really see the neighbor's house, but it would damage the neighbor's house, too. Um, so what she wants to do is basically take down this tree. Um, because it's endangering the house.
Um, and it looks like I think we agreed it's like about 30 feet from the It's 30 feet from the lake. Yeah. Okay. And um, and it's How close is it to the house? Like 10 feet or something? Oh, it's it's less than that.
Yeah. All right. There all have everything tight. They're they're tight tight lots. Yeah, I can just look and see the other There's the tree. Different angle. That's a big tree.
Yes. When they when they split like that, they uh they wobble in the wind. Yeah. I've heard that that's that right there is is one of the most dangerous situations with trees.
Yes. So she had someone look at it too and also they she knows what equipment the person might use. Yeah, they would they would just use some small equipment. It wouldn't come really around anything. Um but he's
going to from uh woodland forestry is just going to use a tiny um piece of equipment so that he doesn't it really won't be damaging the lawn or doing anything. Okay. Um, all right. So,
what seemed appropriate to me in this case is just is an emergency. It's just one tree. It definitely is threatening the house at this point. Um, so and the equipment being used is is
not going to have much of an impact. So, that's what I suggest an emergency so she can get it done quickly. How do uh you guys feel about that, Mayor and Scott? Does the um property line to
for the neighbor because I can see the house on the background and I have a general idea of where this house is. Should we look at the pictures again? No, I didn't know if Mary knew that. Oh, how far is the property line? I don't I don't know where the I just know
they're they're really close. I don't know where the line runs. Sorry. Okay. And is it somebody who's going to climb? Is that why you don't need There wasn't a lot of equip need for equipment or Yeah, he's just going to use a small truck, but he's got climbers that do it, too.
Okay. He's a full service forest street person. And then with an emergency sert like when does um does it require that the work is done within a certain period of time?
Yep. Emergencys are good for 30 days. Okay. Yeah. And they the basis with them is that that you have to really decide that it's an emergency, you know, that there's there's a a danger there that either some
safety or also property type damage. Um, and then yeah, and it's just a simple it's onepage form and then so I I would probably do if you guys are all right with it, we can vote on it tonight and I can issue it tomorrow and then they have 30 days.
Okay. All right. I am uh looking for a motion to issue an emergency search to take down the tree at 13 Cove Road. So moved. All right. Second.
Second. Okay. Con I. Fox. I. And Wilson I. All right, Mary. I'll try and get that put together tomorrow for you.
Okay. Um, and you can copy it to me, too, just in case. Sometimes she doesn't always get them. You send it. You should have her thing to send it to her, too. But you could you send it to me. I'll make sure she gets it, too. Or send me a copy. Yeah, I think she sent an email.
Yeah, I got a text from you, but I think she sent an email, so I should at least have her email. Yes. Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Any other uh unanticipated
business? No, not unanticipated, but um we are are we having the hearing or we I have regulations on for October 9th. Are we
voting on the regulations or are we discussing it further? I can't remember. We're having the public hearing on public hearing. Okay. So then Yeah. So that's really the opportunity for the public to make comments and things on it. Um
and then you know based on feedback we get from the public, we may make some more changes and stuff before we eventually vote on any vote on it. Okay. But we're require you required to have a public hearing. So, okay. Yeah, that's going to be a busy night
because we've got other stuff already on the agenda. Yeah, that's what I was wondering. Yeah, I was hoping to try to have a really light agenda so that we because I think the hearing might take a while, but I know we already have a couple things, but
it's all right. We'll survive. Maybe not very many people come to the public hearing. We'll see. That's what we can hope for. And so you'll get us a copy of it before that like and Okay.
Yeah. I've been going through I went through a lot of it today. Um and I'm pretty much done and tomorrow I want to send it to Donna tomorrow so she has a chance to look through it and so she's going to come to the hearing. It's going to get posted on the web page
hopefully this weekend. And so then I'll and I'll get a copy to you guys same time that all that happens. Sounds good. Yeah. Yay. Yeah, I know. A lot of lot of effort by everybody. And
well, we've just been busy. Like coming out of the last meeting, we had I had two determinations that had to go out and three certificates of compliance that had to it's just all the paperwork is a lot. So now coming out of this meeting, we have another certificate of
compliance and an order of conditions and the regulations and it's just a lot. But just great love being chair. Love it. Anyone else want to be chair? Anyone? Anyone?
Oh, thank you. No, thank you. Did you ever hear Did you ever hear from uh Bob or I know. No, I don't. I Okay. He must have forgot that tonight was meeting night. I have
No, he didn't respond to my text. I sent 701. I just said meeting starting. Yeah, I sent him a text, too, saying, "Are you coming?" But I didn't hear from him, so I didn't know. I hope he's okay. Yeah. So,
yeah. Well, luckily Scott stuck around. Thanks, Scott. Yeah, I'm sorry not to be able to make the um call on video, but um anyways, um good meeting. Thank you. And thank you, Beth, for all your work as chair.
Yes, thank you. I was just whining. I just I just had to complain a little bit. It's a lot and you're doing a lot. So, thank you. Yes. Thank you. Scott, are you on the 9th? Are you going
to um be able to call in? Yeah, I should be able to. I haven't um Well, let me just look at that now. So, it's at 7
9th. October 9th. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Is it at 7 p.m.? Yes. Y. Yep. I should be able to make it. Great. Okay.
All right then. All right. No other business. I'm looking for a motion to adjurnn. So moved. Second. Second. Great. Fox. I
Khan. I and Wilson. I All right. Thanks you guys for coming. Okay. Have a good night. Yeah, you too. Have a good weekend. See you in a couple weeks. Okay. Bye everyone. Bye
bye.