I am recording. Okay, good. Okay. Hi everybody. So, it is uh 7 now 03 and this is the um Lake Wya storm water erosion task force. And let's just for
uh Tom's sake call out our names and and we are then present. So I'm Jennifer Wallace. I'm here. Oh, I know I can vote for Bob Douglas. I mean not vote for him, but he is here. He just can't be speaking. Yeah. So Bob Douglas
is here. Jim Moore is here. Tom's here. And I expect we'll get Charlene and Eric eventually, but not right now. But keep your eye out for them, Tom. You can add them when they I you'll um unless you made me host. I can't see if people are
asking. Okay. I'll let you know. Just so you know. I'll let you know. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, then we will um call this meeting to order. And first item of business is to review and approve the
minutes that Tom, our minute minute man, has um has sent to us all and any additions, changes, uh issues or anything with the minutes that anybody can
identify. They look good to me. That's the March 20th minutes, right? Mhm. Okay. So, without any um anyone bringing anything up, can we have a motion to approve these minutes?
I move to approve and I'll move to Can I I can move to second things, right? Yes, sure. Yeah. Okay. I'll move to second. Joe's saving his voice, but he is here. Okay. Okay. Good.
So now a couple of updates and I is everyone in I just to get it verbal. Oh yeah, we should have I don't mind. Yeah, I'm Bob thumbs up. I thank you. I
say your name. That's that was Jim and Joe both said I. Jen, you're an I. I'm an I. I'm looking at a text here that I have from Charlene who is trying to get back on. So, let's say
um all excuse me, all others are here. Try again. I'll just try again without video, I'll say and maybe she'll be okay.
Okay. Oh, here she is. Admit. Okay, there she is. Hi, Charlene. Okay, we can't hear you, Charlene. You froze for a minute and then I lost you and then it said something about my internet connection, but we're good to
go. Okay, good. And if it freezes again or looks like it is, if you get a a weak internet message, you can just turn your video off and that sometimes allows you at least to participate audio. Okay, sounds good. Sorry about that. Well, you're right on Q because I was going to
talk a little bit about the association meeting, but let's first start with GZA. So uh we had um talked at our last meeting about expanding the GZA estimate
and proposal to include the geomorphic study up at Fiskbrook. This is something that uh that Elwack has really wanted us to do and the Furcog rep said there really wasn't any thing in the science that
we'd say one way or the other to do it or not to do it. And I asked the GZA person, Rosalie, who we met with, if she could just give a ballpark of what it would look like if the uh geomorphic study was included
in their proposal. And she said it would add $7,000. So she did a revised proposal um which now is our final proposal from them unless something changes again. And
the total for that now is 80,700 where so I have met with the select board and conveyed to them our endorsement of GZA as as the engineering firm that looked like it was well positioned to do this work and the town
has worked with GZA on other projects and uh they um are considering that to be the firm that that we would like to use. Uh the proposal asks for a commitment from the town within six
months. So there is some wiggle room there. Um and perhaps it could be extended. You know, a town's process for accepting the proposal, I think, is going to be very much related to this application that
we're applying for for funding from the rural development fund. Um and I will that will be the next on my list in just a minute. So that's where we stand with GZA and uh our next steps with them are
going to be related to the rural development fund application. So I'll be back with GZA momentarily. Uh can I ask a quick question please? Yes. Um, even though it might not matter from what you just said, what would the six
months be currently? Like is it from now or is it from two months ago? Uh, it's probably from it's from the date of their proposal. So, let me just double check what that date is. Hold on. I just have to go into my
folder here. Okay. Wrong folder sliding you all around. Okay. So, the final proposal was dated March 11th.
Oh, pretty recent. Okay. So, you you can count the months from that. Okay. Thank you. Uh so, any other questions on GZA at the moment? I will forward to you their
final proposal so that you can see the timeline and the way that they've broken up the tasks and the way that the um geomorphic study fits in with the H&H study. It's you'll see that they're done
several of the steps are done concurrently. So it's not like they'll wait. It's a actually a they subcontract the geomorphic um study out to a different engineering firm. So these which they'll supervise this other firm.
So they'll uh they'll be able to proceed alongside each other rather than waiting for one to be finished before the other can start. Jim, I'm sorry to be hazy on this, but what is the product of the uh
geologic right we get a list of suggestions or a plan? Okay. Yeah, there'll be a um you know a me memorandum that identifies you know what the landform situations are there currently,
how they would expect them to be impacted by major modeled out storm events of the future. Uh what the repercussions would be downstream from all these beaver dams. and we would get
a a report of existing conditions and recommended potential mitigation measures. Um, and there I think there was one other kind of deliverable on that. Okay. So, we get to say gee whiz great pines
has always been a pain. Um, could you come up with maybe a new solution for what's going on there? Well, okay. So, we're talking about two different things. So what I just mentioned to you was their analysis of the Fiskbrook area. Oh, okay. What's happening with
the engineering firm which is H&H is exactly what you're talking about. I mean, they're going to be looking at in a more comprehensive way at the drainage systems that we've already identified and and they're going to be wanting our involvement with them in
pinpointing where these are in in real space, right? So they have like a site reconnaissance um component. They're going to do modeling out based on what they're seeing and what their projections might be for I don't know you know water
volume and 100red-year storms and things like that. And then they will be producing lists of what they call mitigation measures for these particular sites as well as uh schematic designs and conceptual approaches and all kinds
of things that would be our next steps to approaching um a funding source for construction funds to implement these things. Oh, and they'll also recommend the best management practices for these particular sites.
Yeah, they also have a grant writer on staff and they also have um you know other consultants that are part of their whole package to be offering advising to their clients about you know how to implement their next steps. It's pretty
uh it's a pretty good proposal. It's not just it seems like a whole package of um of services. Great. Thank you. And you'll see that when you see the proposal.
Um, so where we are with the uh rural development fund is that I have um been working on a draft of that application and that will get passed off to the new
town administrator whose name is Haley Boon. In fact, I met with her for the first time today and briefed her on all of the um work that's been done so far and have given her tons of materials both from
Furcog and and uh you know the rural development fund itself has criteria and guidelines. I went to one of their webinars. I'll have an virtual office visit with the uh real
development fund representatives next week to clarify a few outstanding questions. So um and also our two furcog people are reviewing the draft right now. Um I am going to be traveling abroad
from May 30th until no sorry April 30th until May 25th. The application is due on June 4th. So that gives it like a 10day window to finalize things. And Tom has agreed to
be our task force uh liaison to the town as they work out how to flesh out this application. Um I will also send to you the draft. what I have two more little fine points I need to work on in the
draft and at the same time I send that to the town administrator I'll send it to you all so that you all have that draft too and can see where we're headed with this fund that the rural development fund is interested in uh I don't know how
interested they are in lake quality in sedimentation and a lot of the things that we're interested in however ever. They are interested in public safety. They're interested in climate resiliency. They're interested in
flooding and they're interested in public safety on roads and road improvements to improve public safety. So, this application is definitely slanted to fit into that
groove. So if when you see it you don't see well like what about all these discharge points and what about all this you know unloading of sediment into the lake well if I hope it's not absent but it's definitely the proportion of things
about road safety and flooding and sediment are are shifted a little bit for this purpose but the resilience should capture that capture yeah the resilience should capture it so um so that's in the works and I just want to
make a note to myself that I owe you GZA and draft and I'll be meeting with Tom to pass all this information off to him so he has it as well. Uh then I met with the so the rural
development application guidelines say that uh applications are more competitive if they have a 10% match from the applicant. And so with Charlene's help, I approached
the Lake Wyola Association about their um openness to sharing this 10% grant with the town. And they said yes. Yay. So, the
Lake Bile Association is going to um write a letter of support indicating their support for this project and their uh commitment to participate in the matching funds. And uh Charlene, do you want to
add anything else into that? Well, we um Jan did a very nice presentation to the Lake Wyola board um and gave the specifics that uh were important for them to hear. And after um the presentation uh we had a discussion and
there were two motions made. The first motion was to first write the letter of support which was uh unanimously accepted by uh the members that were there. Um, and one request that was made during that time was if Jen you could
bullet um like major ideas that we could put in that letter of support and if you forward them to me, I'll take care of them. Um, that would be helpful. I'm going to work on that tomorrow afternoon. I hope. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. And then the second motion was uh
regarding the amount of money uh we could uh promise and that was uh a motion was made for $4,000.50 50 cents. I think if I recall we rounded up the 80,700 to 81,000. That's where that
particular number came from. Um but in the discussion that money will be there as long as the town also gives their 5%. So, it's contingent on the town agreeing otherwise uh it's
useless um because they need 10% and we we really can't do 10%. So, uh that and you couldn't even apply you guys. The Lake Association can't really even apply period. It has to be okay through the town. But yeah, that motion was also
unanimous. So, you've got full support of the of the uh Lake Wyola Association. And the other request they had, and I hate to keep putting more work on you because you're certainly doing so much of it. Um, we have a nice Lake Wyola
newsletter that we put online and distribute um, usually at the end end of spring. Art Keane puts it together for us. And um because this is a new project which obviously involves the lake, would
you be willing to write up, it doesn't have to be a detailed um piece of information, but again the highlights of what has happened and transpired and if you want to send it directly to Art, that's great because he cut cuts and
pastes it. Um, and do put your name to it because you want to get credit for authoring it or you can send it to me and I'll get it to him, whichever works easiest for you. Um, and then he puts it in the newsletter and but he he has to get that I think he's hoping to get it
out soon. So again, it's a matter of as fast as you can do that one is um because that that's going to be see what's going to be hard for me and I think you may have glitched out at this point but so next Wednesday. So that's
less than a week from now. Um I'm leaving for a month. Okay. Well, do you want I can It'll be really hard I think given the application Yeah. that uh where my focus is on really getting
those materials to the town. It might be hard for I can't imagine it. Not that it can't occur, but I can't imagine it. If I be better if you wanted based on I can try it. Why don't I You can send it to me and I'll just give it a look over. That would be great because I don't want
to put any erroneous information in there. So, I'll I'll try to write something up. And when um we just got back from Florida yesterday, so I just paid all my bills. I'm so tired. Oh, yeah. Right. Um but um I'll try to get
it to you by Saturday or Sunday. Will that Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That would be very helpful. And I can, you know, tweak that a little bit or not or whatever. Okay. So, you have two motions that moved the project. Yeah. Unanimous,
too. I'm thrilled. Yes. And for for all of us here, you know, here's one thing that I think is just one of the most awesome things about that and this, which is, you know, the one of the premises of
this whole thing and going to the town with it was to get all the stakeholders, you know, at the table and begin to work together and not let the fact that roads are owned by different entities be the obst obstacle to dealing
with water troubles that care nothing about who owns what roads or or hillsides, you know, and there are individual homeowners that are involved with some of these properties, too. And our education component will start to
address that, I think. So the idea that we can and actually the town administrator said that to me today when I said that the association had voted to contribute half of this match that that's just um a
spectacular point in in the favor of of what we're doing here. You know that it's a not only is it a systems wide and Furcog said this too. It's it's not only a systemswide approach to thinking about how to think about this water and how to
treat the issues, but it's a systemswide approach to the problem solving and the planning that goes into doing something about this water. And I don't think any of
us really think much successfully can be done without a systems wide approach both geographically and institutionally. So I think we're really on on a good footing here and I think it's good footing for potential fundraising in the
future that these groundwork is being laid. So, Jen, will you u be hearing from the select board if the or does that go to their town meeting for a vote? It won't have to have to because the amount is under,000, right? It's under whatever
their town meeting threshold is, right? So, will they let you know directly they have voted that at one of their meetings? So, she's gonna be Yeah, they're going to be meeting I think I don't know if they'll put that for a vote on Tuesday, but it will be at some subsequent select board
meeting. Um, Haley, the town minister, has all this now and and needs to be in touch with them. So, you'll get back to George to say let him know because then we'll know at our next meeting to Yeah. And you know what? None of this. We have
to find out if we're approved for this match and that's not gonna happen till October. That's right. Yeah. There's no rush on the line. They do have to, you know, when they submit the application, it has to certify that the funds are secure and it has to certify where the funds are coming from and all of that.
All right. Um, also Joe Cmerford's office is saying they'll write a letter support of support for the project. Furcog will write a letter of support for the project, too. Okay. Um, I think that's it on the rural
development fund. Oh, the well the main thing too is and I said this to the town administrator. I said, "Well, we won't be able to work with GZA uh in any formal sense
until that proposal has been accepted by the town, meaning signed off on and we have a contract with them. And I don't think the town is going to sign off on that uh until they find out if they got the grant, right? And that wouldn't be till
October. However, today we discussed and I think they've already started talking to the town attorney that there might be a way to do a memorandum of understanding between the town and GZA to do some leg work and consult with
each other around how to raise um how to get started or how to raise funds in case the grant doesn't go through uh in advance of actually signing and accepting their proposal for that particular work. So do you understand
what I mean that if we have a a memor memorandum of understanding we can consult with GZA but they are not conducting the engineering study until the grant funding is secured which maybe it'll be secured from the rural development fund
and maybe it won't. If it's not then somehow we try to raise $80,700 from one source or another. So, we really want this rural development thing to go through. Tom, thanks. Oh, I'm not muted.
Um, do you know if there's anything after we submit it in June between then and October like do we find out any news or is it kind of just a long silent period? Are there Yeah, I think it's a long silent period,
but I'm just to know what to deal with patience wise and yes, I will. Um I'm writing that on my note to them when I meet with them next week. Like it would be great if there were like tears like we made the short list or something. You know, that was
one thing I wondered about or didn't make it. Gosh. Um or yeah, that's a good just any sort of uh steps that might be allowed for us to know along the way. Yeah, that's a good one. So be it either way.
Um All right. So So if there aren't any other questions on that, then I can move on to the next agenda item. All right. So I wanted to try and find Bob's hand is up. I apologize. Yes, I I did have a quick question. um
related to uh letters of support. Is that something you would want a letter of support from the conservation commission for? It's a good question because I don't know whether letters of support. So the town is applying and then does the town's own committees write a letter of support?
It's possible. I thought also that ELWAC has been way behind this and especially way behind the uh fluial geomorphic study. So let me ask that question of uh let me ask that question of Haley
whether you know letters of support from town committees are useful. Great. And if they are let me know and I can I can just bring that to the commission. Good. And even though my time seems like it's disappearing quickly by April 30th,
there is a whole month and even a little bit more before the application is due. Um, Jim can't hear you. You're muted, Jim. Okay, there we are. There you go. Um, no, it's just
that my dog was barking, so I muted that. Um, I think given that the the conservation committee would probably need to sign off on a lot of our activities or you know not for an
engineering study. No, but for going ahead with any actual Oh, sure. Yeah. Eventually. Yeah. at it would be nice for them to at least in spirit or you know um submit some letter saying that
they're behind this sort of um activity. [Music] um you know I know they can't approve any hypothetical activity but at least you know in principle that they'd support anything dealing with
sedimentation or and I think also there as we get to public education I think concom support knowing that we have a big uh public education and outreach component because their interest is in individuals knowing what the impacts of
their alterations are on the wetland habitat. So you rais a good point there. Um so I'm going to talk about that and Elwack too. Okay, good. All right. So I um I wanted to try
and finalize. So back to our charge which was to produce a report for the select board in June. I think we're right on track to be able to accomplish that. um we've done a lot of um sort of looking at things related to
management and maintenance and I had one of those four o'clock in the morning things like this is so dense and hard to read and you can't really even follow it and what good is it going to be. So, I started and I'm not fluent in any way with making tables or anything like
that, but I sent you all a kind of different way of presenting the management and maintenance recommendations. I don't know if you had a chance to look at it. I could screen share it now. I don't want to go over it
with a fine tooth comb because uh we keep delaying the public education component and I want to make sure we get to that. Mhm. But I could give it give you us a quick look at it and see if you think this format is good and then you
could submit comments to me in writing about how you'd like to add things, subtract things, or if someone's a wizard on making tables, they could take it over all together and and put this into a table form. But why don't I share
it on my screen right now and I'll see if I can find it. [Music] Um there is a here we go. So So I made this table and then I printed it and drew this line
down the center because I didn't know how to draw lines on a table. So what I tried to do is to just show tasks that happen at different points in time to show the responsible parties and
sometimes the responsible party extends between both parties, right? So they're both responsible for those things and then in other cases only one party would be responsible for it. So that's what's happening here. So
for example, in spring and fall, these three items are done by both entities, the town and Lake Wyola, whereas this one is just done by the town. That helps that you say that. Thank you. Likewise, all of these are just done by the Lake
Wya association. And these are more general, right? Um this is done by both parties. This one just by the town and this by one by the association. So, I'm not saying that this is in any way finalized, but it takes what was in that
other document and tries to condense it. And for me, it's a it's a more effective way to present the information than page after page colorcoded and stuff like that.
But if if you all felt like this, okay, this is this is a workable format and we can use something like this in our final report. Two things, we can use something like this in our final report with the select board and we can use this in our
eventual um coordination with the highway department in um talking about management and maintenance. And you'll see number one here on the list is a review of an operation and management plan that identifies projects for the
year. And I believe that each of these parties should have such a plan and that those components should go into a master plan for operation and maintenance of drainage systems around the lake. that
that should be um sort of two sub plans which are presented as a total plan and that's again the beginning of creating this um working unit where both institutions are working together
but in their own separate kind of like I had a friend once who said her ideal of her her ideal of a perfect relationship was two canoes on the same river. And I've never been in a canoe with a partner of mine where we've still been
together at the end of the canoe trip. No, I'm just kidding. So, I don't know what's Oh, and then there's a second component. So, so these are more generalized tasks, things that would happen every year and at every periodic
points in the year. And then there would be another piece that are specific recommendations and it would identify who's responsible for those. Here's the one develop a
coordinated town and Lake Wyola management plan. Uh this one, Lake Wyola to rename its roads committee and expand its mission. Uh the highway department assesses ditches across from great pines to
improve their condition and design. Now these are identified these are identified by Furcog right just excuse me but on that number three
um opposite lake um as well that even last weekend during the rain and thaw and all of that there was water coming out onto the road from the ditch on the west side
of locks pond um right around lake. So that um right around lake lake. Okay. All right. So So that from great pines and another location there where the ditch was not holding the water. It was coming
out onto the road. Okay. So, and again, this is by no means, you know, comprehensive, but it also gets to some granular level of detail that's different than the more general tasks
that are identified on something like this. Because, for example, maintaining these turnups on great pines, that's going to happen all the time because they're always going to get filled in. Same with shore and pine. but looking specifically at ditches
across from Great Pines to improve their condition and design. Or there's another one here on King Road and Stebins. You know, that may that may not be done that might be a one-time shot. Same thing with cleaning these ditches on Wendell Road. These are what were
identified by Furcog as immediate needs. Something like this is useful for both parties to prioritize what they're going to do in any given year, too. Okay. Can I bring up a granular item? Oh, yeah. That opposite um Laurel
Straits on Windle Road. The culverts there can be where we had that problem of water Watson Straits. Watson Watson Straits. Yeah. depends on what map you look at. But yeah,
um you know, the water comes down that road and cuts through the woods and makes its way down to shore. So if it could be intercepted back up by, you know, that culvert right at the road opening being shut down and carrying
water a little bit further downhill, um further north, I guess. Um but again that's a granular concern but certainly creates problems when it happens right so some of these too sorry I try to get
this uh some of these two you know I saw some things in the fur cog report that by rights I felt the H&H study should identify what should be done rather than any of us saying meaning us on our task force or the
highway department saying, you know, here's how we'll do it. I I think we're yielding to the engineers to look comprehensively at things and then propose solutions. So, so I don't know, Jim, whether this is something that you
think we would point the engineers to or this is something that someone either the highway department or association or both would work on right away. Well, it it's one of those issues where water off right there at at the opening of Watson
Straits of the road with, you know, within 30 ft of heading downhill cuts off the road and down the hill to shore. And that's the location where um I don't remember the name of the individual, but the right house had water coming right
next to their their foundation. So, um, and I know George has tried to address it, but it'd be nice if the town could simply close down the culvert that feeds or considers closing it down. I don't know.
Okay, that's good. Thank you. So, I leave this with you. You all have this now. I sent it today. Did I make a comment or two about it? I didn't mean to belabor it. No, but let me just finish my thought here. Um, because we
have time before we submit this to the town in the form of our report, I'm asking for two different things. Um, one, more of these granular suggestions like the one we just got and proofing
this for clarity and so on. and two, um, feedback or some proposal for an alternative way to present these ongoing things that
identify that these two parties are working hand in hand in their own in their own kingdoms, but also together to um to take this systems wide approach.
So, I would also like feedback on that eventually, doesn't have to happen now, and take a close look at it. Maybe some one with more graphic expertise than I will come up with a better solution. Tom,
thank you. Um, that was actually one of my points. I didn't catch you saying it so clearly until just now, but yeah, I will do my best also to think about visualizations or organizations of the document. Maybe back to one, maybe keep it as two, whatever. Maybe a map would be included.
I don't know. Map could be included or some sort of visual. Um, oh, just one thing that came up I think while we were just talking you and Jim. Um maybe on these details on the two documents where it is Watson isn't
actually mentioned yet, but if we're like if Watson's was mentioned somewhere in specific maintenance, maybe an asterisk could be put next to it or other projects that we expect the H&H study to touch on more than we expected
to touch on other ones maybe or other items in there. Does that make sense what I mean? because I think for some of them we have a a good idea that it will be touched on by each and yeah let me just put a little asterisk here um kind of leaving it up to you know kind of acknowledging like this is probably
going to be modified or well could be um after the engineers also contribute because some of them do seem more like now with our highway department action could happen. Yes. The other thing that I didn't have on
this list and I knew you had mentioned so Tom feel free to add that either either here at this list or on the other one that you had mentioned issues on South Laurel which I'm not aware of um what they might be. Okay. We never
really made it down there on our field visits. Right. I see Joe's hand is up. Hi, Joe. How you doing? When they do the design work, have they been told to try to do as much as they can using property
that's um not residential or something that's owned by the town or by the lake association? only only because you if you do a design and it all of a sudden runs into somebody's property, trying to
convince that person to to allow the water to go through could be an issue if they not to. Yeah. And keep keep these two things in mind. One, uh nobody has been told anything because currently no
one's working on it. You know, this is in the form of a proposal. to when the engineering firm gets started, they're going to be relying on us to give them all the local information that we
can including just what you just mentioned, Joe, about what we've talked about, town owned properties that could be available, um, etc. The third thing is that they're going to
be providing us with conceptual sketches. You know, they're not down to the level of where's the pipeline going to go and who has rights to that land. That's going to be a following step that we'll all need to work
out. So, there's going to be plenty of um opportunity for us to interact with the engineering firm. And I really doubt that they're going to get to the point of making recommendations based on
whether there's authorization to be on anybody's property. These are going to be big broad sketch ideas. Um I would there'll be specific mitigation measures, but how they get implemented I think is going to be up to whoever receives the engineering study
and begins to figure out how to implement it. But like I said, we'll have lots of opportunities to talk with them. Um, in fact, we already have because GCA will be the firm. But once they get started, you know, they even have in their in
their work plan flow, you know, consultation with us. Did that answer your question? Yes, it does. That's all. I just wanted to make sure. No, no, it's good. Yeah.
Okay. So, if that's um agreeable with everybody, we can move on to the next thing. I'm going to turn my office lights on here. Charlene, I can hear you though. Go ahead. Okay. Um just a couple of things. As everyone knows, the Lake
Wyola Association functions a lot with volunteers helping maintain the roads. Um and then we do every year have a capital plan that comes from David Boron which is very specific with amounts of monies and things. Um my question is
since the highway department has paid personnel who can be asked to do these things. So that becomes part of a you know the town's budget would cover any of those expenses. Um, if there are things on here that
maybe are beyond anything our the association can uh agree upon, how would that get dealt with if it becomes part of the report? Well, other people can weigh in on this. My perspective on it is that this is simply just a report to the select
board. So, no one's committing anybody to have to do anything. It's also a working document that the roads committee and the association can say okay well these issues were specifically identified by
FURCOG endorsed by the task force and in any one year can be we're going to prioritize these items for our work because you know we're on board to to reduce sediment into the lake. Some of them
might require additional fundraising, right? But it's not that someone's on the hook to do something. It's merely like it's a planning document and it's a working document. And Jim has some thoughts about how the roads committee might start to interact with um with
this especially in light of the fact that a lot is done by volunteers and the funding is limited. I mean, I just want to say funding has been directed mostly to dealing with the road surfaces and not comprehensive drainage
studies. And if the if the charge of the roads committee gets expanded to include drainage and then some projects could get prioritized from the point of view of drainage, then funding can be raised just for that one purpose by the Lake Wy
association. Do you see what I mean? Oh, I it it would have its own somewhat of a budget and but I think what would be good, Jen, um this is u the second list is is very specific. Um, do I have the the task
force permission to bring this to our next meeting and let them and and Jim's on the roads committee, so um, he wouldn't be at this meeting, but I think it'd be great if the whole committee could see what was in that report specifically dealing with the Lake Wyola
or is it too early to do that? Well, I'll let Jim weigh on in on that too. My sense that right now it's too early because we're still fleshing out the list. Okay. Um, and I don't know how the Lake Wy association and the roads committee
wanted want to do business. I mean, we're going to have this report. It's going to the select board. It's going to the Lake Wy association and how you all want to do with it. That would be your business, right?
What do you think, Jim? Okay. Uh, one quick one was something that Charlene said early on is one of the tasks that would be great to hand over to the town is just the once a year uh
crowning of the roads. We don't have a truck and I believe the town does have the facility to to um take care of Wendle Road for sure. So that um if we
could reach an understanding on that it would be great. Um, second thing for Char, you know, with Charlene's comments is, um, I know at one point George said that he's at least open to think about expand changing the name of the roads
committee to, you know, erosion in roads or something of that sort and to with that think of expanding the mission statement of the committee. And that's something I'd hope we could um as the
Lake Wyola Association could get on fairly quickly so that we'd have a structure, a committee that could um begin to address some of these issues and and take on some of the nitty-gritty
points um as it affected the association. American citizen. So Charlene, I'll I'll I'll ask I wasn't aware of that with George. So George is because informally, you know, was a Okay. Because the
conversation I had with George about it. He seemed to think that it might be a good idea. Um, and what I'd like to do is to get I don't have a copy of the association bylaws, I hate to say, but to get a copy
of it, see what the mission of the roads committee is and and draft up something to take to the executive committee about um getting ready to deal with um these issues. Um because I I do know we we've talked
at at least two meetings about the because Jen was requesting a separate committee for uh this and I listened in on that. So yeah. Right. Right. Right. And um at the first meeting and it came from a member on the committee they
they just because of unfortunately the nature of the beast of getting people to help out on committees is is Easier said than done, I guess, is the way way I'll best put it. Um, so rather than have another committee, then the discussion
came to be f let it be a focus of the roads committee. So what George is has informally said to you is maybe rename the roads committee as is that what he's saying? Well, add something like erosion in roads or something and then so it was
kind of like re enlarge the charge a little bit. Yeah. and rename the committee and it would be the same people but you know so because you're right that there's a limited um amount of labor on the lake you know
there's there's the 25 people who do a hell of a lot of work then there's another 25 that do a good bit of work and then right you know there's maybe the 50 at the bottom that sometimes do something so that um yeah to take
advantage of the roads committee to and they wouldn't necessarily be doing the work as much as coming up with this oversight and suggestions on an annual basis. Okay. So, the question Yeah. like how
how my Charlene, you and Jim work together to facilitate this and and the difference is here I went back to this. So, currently the roads committee subcontracts their assessment out to Dave Boron, right? once a year he goes
around. So what this would do is not preempt that but add to that whether it's Dave or members of the committee these kinds of items like cleaning out culverts and drainage ditches assessing winter damage to drainage conducting
fall assessment to address drainage. So, I don't think Dave and George concurred is he's looking at road surfaces, getting them ready for plowing, what needs to happen. He's not looking at culverts. He's not looking at the
condition of ditches, cleaning out retention ponds. So, that kind of would be the role of this expanded role of the committee is that this becomes surveillance, if you will, an assessment that's done every year.
uh and and at different times of the year. So, it's a little bit slightly tweaked from what the roads committee has been doing. But, um that so that's what Jim is is talking about. And yeah, I'm going to be up at the lake this
weekend, so there might be a chance that we could chitchat a bit about this. Okay, sounds good. And and I think I think once we have this draft, the specifics and the other one uh finalized
and we vote to say we're cool on this and we're going to send it to the select board. Of course, you know, there isn't any reason why the association wouldn't have it and Jim wouldn't have it and and his group wouldn't have it and begin to use that as a template.
But I don't think it's ready to circulate yet. Do you Does anybody No. Jim says no. What do you say, Tom? Is this ready to circulate? I would wait for now if possible, unless it were urgent.
And and Joe, do you have any feedback on that? No, I I think uh you did a good job with it. So, I have no feedback with it. And and but do you think it's it's ready to circulate or can we take another little
time to fine-tune it? Well, you already put the covers and stuff in it that normally they don't do with the roads committee, right? And that'll give them chance to start figuring out for funding for it because trying to get people to donate to the association is another
issue. So maybe that could help them. Well, yeah. And I think that once we have something like this and it's finalized, the association can, you know, and we would help with this go to other entities that might be um already
lending money to do, you know, smaller road improvements and things like that for the environmental purposes if anything else. Um, but we just need to get the list finalized and be happy with it. And maybe I'm just saying I'm not really happy with it just yet. It doesn't feel
complete to me. And I think Jim, you agree with that, right? I do. Yeah. So, all right. So, three hands up. Jim, no, I I spoke. Jim's down. Charlene, your hand is up. Well, the only thing is
um I don't know if I heard you wrong that once it's tweaked then it'll go to the select board, but I would feel better knowing since Lake Wyola Association is mentioned in there that they need to see it before the select
boards. You know, they should Well, I I just think I was going to do it simultaneously, but Oh, I don't um I just think if you're going to Okay, mention it. I think they need to look at it and see, you know, here's something very simple I'm thinking of. I I don't
know what other things David Borne does, but maybe if he even saw the list and says, "Well, I could do your cop." You know, we could at least get a price from him or or he could recommend somebody. But I don't know if he doesn't do that. So, other people who are better aware of
that might um be able to, you know, give better advice on that. But I I just think whenever you mention an association, they need to see the document before it goes forth as the final presentation. I I would feel better because I don't want anyone to come back and say, "Charlene, you didn't
bring this. You were in here." And you know, it's it's a matter of courtesy, I guess. Okay, that's fine. I agree with Charlene. Yeah, I have no problem with that. Sometimes the time the timing it takes to get, you know, I know everything. I totally agree. Timing. Yeah. And that's all my, you know, I
mean, municipal government works slowly, too. So, I'm always like, let's get this done. But I made a note of it. We'll make sure it happens. Okay, good. Tom, thank you. Um, I guess two things actually. One, just in response to that, I'm comfortable if uh Charlene talks
about what she's seen here tonight and everything. I'm not saying please don't share any of this. I'm just saying as a document, I think maybe we want to hold off calling it written yet. But um that's just a little aside. I had a question for Jim if it's okay. Jim, did
you say that you do not have the bylaws for the Lake Wyola? I don't I know they're online. Oh, I was going to say Yeah, it's just Lake Wyola.org. Okay. And um it's at the top of the page when you go to Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In case you needed to
know where to find them. Okay. So now we're going to move to this next and final component of our report. Uh I will stop sharing for one second. No actually I do have to share
again. [Music] Um just not this one. Uh okay. So this is almost
entirely pulled from the Furcog report. And I have since in sort of hanging out with this have uh have made a couple of other suggestions. But these are the current public outreach um
suggestions that were um made by Furcog. And I should also share just so you have it much older 27y old. I don't know if you remember but Furcog took the town of Sheetsberry
and our task force as one of the locations where they are providing district local technical assistance. So as part of this they are very interested in in what they're calling capacity
building among people who live around the lake and in the watershed to understand the findings of their report. um what kind of measures individual can have, what kind of measures institutions
can have to reduce sedimentation. And they are going to facilitate some education events that would be co-designed with our task force. and they'll focus on building an understanding and buyin from
everybody, the association, the town, the town committee, residents around the lake. And they'll do events and projects that could include uh powerpoints, outreach materials, maps, demonstrations,
interactions with the stream study, field walks, and other ideas. They would meet with us a few times and have these two big public events either at Lake Wyola or online or at the library as people suggested. So they would be a
professional um partner in doing this public education. So this is not included in the recommendations because it didn't exist at the time the recommendations were written but it will get folded into
those recommendations. So and you all have this too I think but I don't need to be I could just I'll keep this available for us if we want to look at it again. And then these are the things that that
they have identified as public education. Uh identify willing land owners who'd like to work with the town or the association for placement of BMPPS would be like structural interventions on private
property. for instance like the sump drainage system at the west's house you know things that have to be low because of where you know there are very few places where the drainage passes through publicly owned land on
the way down to the lake. So in almost any case something is going to have to involve a private property owner. So who are those owners and might they be interested? Um, it's kind of theoretical because we don't know what these BMPPS
are yet, but we will when the engineering study is done. Outreach to owners of properties with driveway exits on Locks Pound Road and consider installing water bars and turnouts off their driveways into the
adjacent woods. So on Locks Pound Road looking west, there are a number of properties where water is like cascading down their driveways. If they could be brought on board as partners too and um
be working to redirect some of that water before it even gets to Locks Pond Road. Um that would be advantageous. uh property owner coordination with a drainage study group before installing systems on their own. That's a big
thing. A lot of people for, you know, in a power vacuum, everybody fills the vacuum with whatever um they need to do to keep that water out of their house, right? But those practices aren't necessarily the most um sustainable or
long lasting or even effective and often what h you know like plugging the dyke in one area ends up causing troubles in the other area. So working with homeowners to be part of a coordinated approach rather than taking action on
their individual properties without knowing that there's a whole master plan at work here. you know, everybody is trying to work together. Uh Joe, your hand is up. Yeah, I was just reading some of those
and the only concern I have is that um and probably Bob could help out. A lot of those things that are written on there are part of the new conservation commission's uh bylaws that they put in. So, they're going to be really involved in a lot of
anything to do with the water around so many feet of the water that goes on a person's um deed. That's right. And that's definitely when I was looking at this list right before our meeting, I wrote down coordination
with concom is going to be crucial when it comes to anything within that uh wetland protection buffer zone for sure. people's lives and another um okay so oh Charlene you have your hand
up I I just wondered who would be part of the drainage study group is that us the task force or is that another group no well yeah that's a good question I don't think I don't know where that name came from necessarily and I don't know what I
don't know how much longer us is going to be in us because technically our charges is dissolved when we make our report to the select board. Is the drainage study group this roads erosion committee?
No, because that relates just to the lake Wyola roads. I have had initial discussions with Mark Rivers about Elwack slightly expanding their role to take
to become kind of the the um middleman I guess in these drainage discussions since we're trying to do a systems wide approach between the town the association and surrounding homeowners.
It would seem that Elweek is in a good position to be the coordinator who would oversee the plan itself and what parties are involved in doing what. Uh I didn't know what other central
organization could do all of that. And I thought ELWAC since it represents both the town and the association might be ideal probably mean one of us becoming a member of ELWAC maybe but but you rais a
really good point there Charlene. I don't think there really there is no such thing as a drainage study group. Yeah, but there does I just worry if you have a group of lay people as this group and then they could they possibly stop a
property owner from not doing something that they may have gotten a lot of I don't think they could because they it's the way it's written it I don't know before installing it looks like they have to give permission and I
don't think that's what that No yeah that's true okay so let me just put this I'm going to make this in a different color. We'll figure out another way to rephrase that. Okay. Yeah. I think I think it's just with communication with or something, you
know, coordination. Yeah. Coordin Well, that's why it's there coordination anyway. But but no, it doesn't want to send a message that there's any more layers of regulatory authority or anything, right? And con, as Joe said, Kanscom would have
a lot of authority over anything that's done, especially that they have it depends on where if it's within the buffer, the wetland buffer, which is I think 100 feet from the lake shore. They have everything to do with that. Right. Right. Um, and I don't know how much
they by law I don't know how much they have to do with permitting us anyway, you know, if they're outside of the buffer zone, but we definitely have to be coordinating with them on all of this, right? Um, education for, you know, part, you know, there's a lot
missing here, like what does education mean for boat owners or for property owners? You know, I think there are things like, well, maybe we want to suggest that a fact sheet gets created, you know, so that this is a flyer that can go in the town newsletter or the
Lake Wy association mailings of what is sedimentation, what what are the causes of sedimentation, how could um actions that you're taking with your boats or your property contribute to
sedimentation, what natural forces are at work in sedimentation. How does sedimentation affect your own shoreline? You know, there's a property over here across from us that, you know, basically had to apply to the conservation commission and the town because the silt
in their little cove, they can't even not the big cove, a little cove by the gases. They can't even get their boat out. So, you know, so what does education mean? It's not just workshops. I feel so much happier. falling after some request to
the library to host workshops. So, I think this will come through. I'm going to eliminate this because this is where I'm going to put Furco. I'll just stick their things in there because that's where all that will come into play, I think. And these are all, you know, things that
interventions that people could do on their own properties. There's also um oh yeah, native plants and shrubs. I mean, it's very likely that you could get an organization, let's see, like Bay State
Perennials to come and do a workshop on native plants and shrubs and give discounts to homeowners for, you know, new plantings that would help with um reducing runoff from their properties
into the lake. I mean, this stuff happens all the time. So part of it is create identifying the interventions and then identifying um incentives for homeowners or property owners to to make some of
these changes. Raising awareness is a big part. How do you raise awareness? Usually you have to, you know, send the information out in a variety of different ways and consistently and rout
and regularly, right, to get the message across. We could run field trips as part of a lake activity and take people to places where we can see, you know, loads of runoff and sediment running into the
lake. We'll call it a sedimentation Saturday or something. Uh Tom, you a sedentary Saturday. No, it wouldn't be sedentary. Everybody
would be sediment with their boots. Anti anti sedentary sediment Saturdays. Um anyway, your hand is up, Tom. Thanks. Yeah, I had a few little comments. Um, is the word field trip on this document
or No, I just I just said that because that was I'm glad you said it. It was kind of among the ideas I was thinking of. Um, and I don't see the word incentives in the document, but it was something I had written down after I had read it was maybe figuring out ways to
incentivize people, um, prizes, awards, things of that nature that can be kind of somehow phrased in that nature. I didn't know when we wanted to get into like the details of the public events we do, but whether like things like
scavenger hunts or quiz shows or knowledge tests or things like that get into it. But those are just some of the ideas I wanted to throw out. Now, um I love scavenger hunts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. you know, find the length and round, you know, and who's to say some of our 5050
raffles have the proceeds go to, you know, fighting sedimentation, right? I mean, who's to say that some of the funding that comes from calendars and other things one year, you know, couldn't go toward um some of these
sediment reduction activities. Yeah. Gum on the um the item where you mention boat wakes, sedimentation, lake depths, vegetation growth. Um, I don't know if it might belong in there. It seems like a phrase we use sometimes, but I don't
know if we also want to avoid it sometimes for our group, but water quality. Um, I don't, it's been unclear to me whether that's our purview or not technically with the silt group, but I just wanted to suggest that we might include water quality somewhere. Yeah,
that's what we're talking about um on the drainage study group and before installing systems and whatnot on their own. I agree. It can sound as though this is setting up some sort of permit process or whatnot. But um and in terms of involving ELWAC with kind of maybe
being guiding in what that drainage study group is or who it is, um my thoughts always go back even kind of higher up than ELWAC that the um three land use permit granting
authorities in town are the board of health, the planning board, and the concom um each of whom by its charter has a representative on ELWAC because those are basically going to happen anywhere in town but they might happen in the Lake Biola area. So, um,
it might be important at some point along the line to go all the way to the step of just even notifying or involving maybe somehow the planning board and board of health beyond the concomwac [Music] and it might even be required at some
point down the line depending what the H&H studies and what implementations come up. Um, road work to me all of a sudden brings to mind planning for it almost more than anything. Um, so just wanted to throw those other groups out there, the planning board and the board
of health besides concomwac. I think that's really important and I added um community preservation because they have funding. They have the money. They have money. So, you know, it's possible that if you know, we had projects, education pro projects or some
of these incentivizing projects that needed funding that we could go to community conservation to um receive some of that funding. So this is all exactly right to bring the town and and the the association and people who are
living around the lake to begin to see their tasks as the same tasks, right? The same priorities um but but then implemented separately depending on their their own organizations and what those
organizational goals and missions are. traveling and he has I think I got Oh yeah, I wondered about discou I know Furcog discourages imperous surfaces and I know that a lot of property owners
have put in imperous asphalt surfaces to keep water away. That's the kind of education that I think we need to begin to identify as being perhaps a solution for an individual family, but but a
bigger problem for the wider for the wider ecosystem. Well, some of the Oh, I had to raise my hand. Some of the problems they driveways that have gotten paved because around the lake, you're limited to your leech fields and most of the leech
fields are by the road. And they found out that some of the water if it drains into the leech field, the leechfield is only designed to take in so much water. So you got to be really careful of how the road itself is crowned to make sure it doesn't overflood the leechfield
because a couple of houses that I know of that had their driveways paved because the system's only designed for so much water. So it wouldn't do wa do good having it so the water drains into it. Right. So of it is good on either side
of it good but not actually into the leaf field itself. Right. So that's where it is. You know I think there's look no one wants to have to involve all these regulatory agencies and signing off on things that they want to do on their properties.
But but if if right now we're the organization that's taken this sedimentation issue and tried to elevate it to a different position than just on a bookshelf someplace. And those kind of factors are
real. You can't be doing you can't be making changes that are going to drown out someone's leechfield. But then you can't be putting an asphalt and asphalt bms everywhere if it's going to be creating other problems too. So that's where the
coordinated approach of how to handle these seemingly competing priorities come into play I think. So it's a delicate balance but I think we do need some some coordination between all these different
agencies and parties. Well, Com is in the last two years have added a lot of vegetation and pvious driveways. They've already had that. They have that already in bylaws works and most of the time when people
are going to pave, they go to them and say this is the reason. So, they present it to them. So, it's that part of it is all working. Okay. Good. Um I know it's in their bylaws. Yeah. Good. Good. I wanted to say something about the
crowning too. Oh, the idea of of the town who has the equipment to maybe take over the crowning of the Lake Wyola roads. That's a decent suggestion. Now, now Dave said he needed a new
greater and the select board didn't fund it this year. Uh, I was to put a vote in a vote for it with the select board and I said to Dave that day, "Yeah, I'm going to talk to the select board tonight about, you know, um, backing your request for a
greater." He goes, "They already voted it down." So, that doesn't mean it can't be voted up next time. And maybe there's a trade, maybe there's some kind of deal that can be made with the town in relationship with them uh taking on the
grading of the roads at least. Who knows, you know, but these are these are problems that can get solved as we begin to roll up our sleeves and try to dive into these recommendations. I think I think that's a decent
suggestion. I don't think the town will like it. Eric's not here. He said he thought they should buy the roads for a dollar. So, I don't know. I don't know what's better. $40,000 greater or a dollar for all these roads
that then you have to be in charge of. Actually, the greater a lot than that. It was 400,000. Oh, 400. Oh, maybe I missed a zero. I thought he said it was 40,000. Well, that's a lot of money. Seems like town should share this big equipment. They share police
departments. Why can't they share this big equipment? But anyway, obviously this this has already been improved and expanded in good ways just in this conversation. So maybe in view of the fact that we're
trying to stand on stay on schedule with with our report to the select board, if like the maintenance stuff, you all could take a look at this and um make suggestions to me of what you think should be included. We won't need to
meet again on it necessarily until, you know, right before it's finalized. But I will finalize I'll just throw in everybody's suggestions and try and get them in a coordinated fashion and we can look at it
again. Um rather than take up our meeting time, you know, on individual lines and stuff like that if if you're in agreement with that. Um two hands are up. Joe's and then Charlene's. Well, I just want to say first thank
you. You did a great job with this. Well, I took everything from the Furcock report. He'll put it all together. So, I just want to Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Um, and Jen, when are are you presenting our final report to the select board?
That's in June, you said. Yeah, I think they said June 18th. I have a crazy travel schedule this summer. So, so June 18th, I really am going to be um just returning from visiting my son and his family in Oregon.
Um, so I'm going to ask them whether I can have another week and present it to them on the 25th and and I am going to miss the Lake Wy Association meeting on the 14th, but I think between Mark Rivers and one of you
guys, you'll be able to give an update to them on what we're up to. But I'll make sure the select board will give us another date. I'm sure it might even be in July. and we'll make sure that all the relevant parties have a chance
to look at this report and sign off on it and endorse it before it goes to the select board. It's all about Did that answer your question, Charlene? Yes. I just wondered how much time we had to build on this, you know, what we
saw tonight. Well, it would be good. Let's see. I'm looking at the calendar. I'll be back um on the 26th and I have the application to the rural development fund is due on the 4th, but I'm hoping that that doesn't have a lot
on my shoulders anymore by the time I get back. So, so let's say that we have until if you're okay with it, say until like the 27th of May. Okay, that's a good long time
for both documents, right? For the maintenance document and the education document, right? I'm just trying to think our Lake Wyola meeting. I Our next one is
Oh my gosh. Let me just quickly look in my minutes from I think it's May 13th, but I'm not sure. One sec. ice cream because where is it?
Our next Lake Wyola meeting is May 13th. So, how about this? I have an idea. or is anti I since these are I mean they are rough but if you are content with
something rough and our committee is okay with something rough I think that I could feel comfortable you bringing these two things the public education and the maintenance stuff as it exists now with
a little bit of tweaking from what we just did tonight as drafts and then because it's true. I mean, if there are substantial um you're talking sort of negative feelings that the
association has about any of this, then I I we would want to iron that out before we went to the select board. Right. Right. And if they feel like there's something blaringly missing, likewise. So, I think there's an advantage to to supplying you with some
drafts that you can show them knowing that that I'd like to get whatever feedback could happen in time for us to draft that report. So, you know, let's just say by the 4th of
June or the last part of May. Do you want to give us a date to get you things so that the tweaking can be sent out to all of us so I could have that for May 13th because right now people
might want to change what we've looked at. Right. Well, if you want me to change something Oh, that doesn't matter to me. Yeah. No, but I'm just saying if I'm gonna tweak anything before I leave, I would need it, you know, like this
weekend probably. Oh, okay. Yeah. But if it's this is just like things that that should be included in a draft. The final version, I wouldn't need anything until say even the 4th of June, the last part of May or the 4th of June.
But you want to bring something to them by the 13th, right? So, and I see I just won't be here to work on it from the 30th until the 13th. And I have other things that I'm doing with that application that are time consuming, too. So, I'm just feeling
crunched, I guess, as far how to do that. Well, what I I mean, as long as it's all right with everyone, I if nothing more is going to change on what we've seen, I can take those and just really encourage
them to understand it's truly a draft and that if there's anything glaring in there that they want to be brought back, then we could, you know, because it looks like the end of June might be the time the information is going to be shared with the select board, right?
then that would give you more time and but and just leave it the way it is or if there's anything more in there that you want to just change quickly and send it along to me then I'll take whatever the latest version is from you. Okay. So, let's say this. We'll take a vote on
this or you know loose vote. Uh I'm going to clean all of this up. There's three documents. I'm going to clean them up a little bit. And then and I'm not going to add anything like brand new that wasn't discussed tonight.
If anything's added brand new, Jim might be adding it from his end, but you know, he's got the expertise and we probably wouldn't bother with that anyway. Um, and I'll just clean these three documents up so I feel pretty comfortable talking about them with
anybody as drafts. and I can get those to you before I leave on the 30th. Okay, that's great. Now, you might not be sleeping, Jen. Does anyone have any objection to that plan?
I would add that um Tommy is here. They're kind of public at this point. Anyway, had this meeting and you're having shared them with us on email. So, um I'm not quite exactly sure of the distinction we're making in terms of sharing it with anyone. and we've kind
of just shared it with the public um in one way and uh I'm very comfortable with them being shared especially with the caveat of these are drafts um you know I I think it's all pretty common sense at that point because yeah I think for I
mean I'm a writer so I just don't like to put stuff out in the world too much if it's really you know not up to some kind of invisible standard I hold in the back of my I hear Yeah. Yeah. I'm like I want to say, "Oh, wait. Can we wait to
format it in a more pleasingly visual way? We're not going to change the content." Um, so I'm comfortable with the draft forms being shared now. Okay. So, no objections to that. Okay. So, that's done. Charlene, I will
get you something before I leave. Okay. And Joe, your hand was up. I forgot to take it down, that's all. Oh, okay. All right. Okay. Good. So then the only other thing we have is
to talk about our next meeting date which I am hoping we can do on either May 29th or June 5th and start talking like normal people. Someone's television is on. I wish I knew what they were watching. That's
ours. Ed, can you turn Ed? Can you turn the TV or I'll mute? Never mind. Can be either day. We'll wait to hear. Joe, can you make it either the 29th or the 5th? Um, yeah, I can make it either day, but
we're are we better wait until the 5th because we're really waiting for more information to come in, right? Uh well, maybe I mean I don't know what more information we would need. I'm going to file the town is going to file that application on the 4th. So, um I'll
I'm thinking I won't be jetlagged on the 29th, but the 5th is okay. How about you, Jim? Either date. Fine. Okay. And what about you, Bob?
Unfortunately, I have the Shootsbury Concom meeting on the on the 5th. Oh, bummer. All right. You You could have the meeting without me, though. I'm trying to decide how I think it's going to be a pretty pretty
important meeting because that's going to be unless we also have a second meeting in June to sign off on the report items. would um the following week um uh the
the Thursday um June um I guess it would be the 12th. Yeah, that's See, that's what I was saying. That's my problem because I have to go to Oregon. Oh, okay. Um I think I'm gonna Who we can do it the 29th,
right? Yep. I believe it be the 29th. All right. If everyone can do it on the 29th, let's shoot for the 29th. we'll get ourselves organized around the um the components of this final report and be happy with what we're going to
send to the select board. Um we would have gotten the feedback from the lake association at that point. Uh and then we'll probably have to have one more meeting in June before we can send the thing off to the select board later in June. It'll probably be like, can we
meet the 26th of June? Yep. I can that'll probably be our last meeting. I mean, yeah, in our present configuration, we'll see what they want to do with it. 26th is good. Okay. All right. So, we're going to have two
meetings, one on the 29th and one on the 26th. The 26 is June, right? Correct. And uh that looks clear to me. Okay, good. In the meantime there, you know, sometime in June, we'll probably have
planning to do with Furcog if they're going to run these public education sessions and all of that. Okay. So 8:33 not too bad.
Um, do I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? I give you a motion to adjourn. Second. Okay. Uh, I Wallace I. Douglas I.
Golinsky. I Moore I. Salvador I. I I so um you know I love you guys. Oh, I'll turn off the recording. It's gonna get mushy. Yeah, it's gonna get mushy. Stop sharing
the screen, too. Oh, you haven't Wait a minute. All right. Stop share. Okay. And now I'm going to