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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: 2-966RdwRGA):
- 00:00:05: Initial Discussion and Preparation for Meeting Start
- 00:02:43: Rescheduled Meeting, Hip Shot, and Bluebird Prototype
- 00:05:28: Prime Video, Steen Report, Hurst House Sanding
- 00:08:45: Zoom Recording, Agenda, and Meeting Call to Order
- 00:09:50: Public Comment: No Comments This Time
- 00:10:09: Review and Approve Minutes of April 16th Meeting
- 00:11:16: Remaining Items Inside Library: Rug, Doors, Lighting
- 00:23:52: Plumbing Issues, Well Water Testing and Quality
- 00:28:56: Stormwater Infrastructure: Basins, Silt, Drainage Problems
- 00:36:11: Landscaping, Seeding, Native vs. Non-Native Plants
- 00:44:52: Motion: Prioritizing Neighbor's Privacy Screen Plantings
- 00:51:26: Planting 41 Trees: Process, Costs, and Logistics
- 01:09:50: Friend's Money and Bird Friendly Window Film
- 01:14:57: Birdhouses, Bathouses, and Metal vs. Cedar Posts
- 01:18:19: Motion to Adjourn


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So, I that's as far as I've gotten with that. Okay. >> Okay. And Okay. This is here. So, it should broken.

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Maybe it's just this should just get its power from the computer. Select a camera. Integrate a camera. >> Unless this is screwed in more than it

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um needs to be to be fully functional. small group tonight. >> The other room is was already booked. >> That's good. >> But none of this technology is working. >> I'll clean after this. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. >> Do I have a minute? >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Let me just get a pen. Okay. Well, we're just going to have to use the zoom on this camera and not um and this is just going to have to be

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good enough if anybody comes on Zoom. >> Are we expecting any people like Neil? Dominic said he's not coming, right? Or >> Dominic's not coming. I don't know. I don't know if anybody's coming. >> Yeah, >> I'm going to get a thing.

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>> Totally. So, were you raised to say to if you couldn't say anything nice just to not say anything? >> No, I am try I um we we rescheduled our community preservation committee

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meeting last week because of the library building committee and >> to this week at 7 o'clock and I am the secretary for that. >> Oh, no. And so I am >> this will keep you a minister in the

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meeting. >> I pretend I'm accomplished. >> Yeah. Really? >> How are you doing? >> I'm okay. Shot in my hip yesterday. >> What?

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>> Blueird bucks. I look better in a couple days. >> No, we're sitting here. >> Dave Moer made it. >> What? >> Um the paper. >> I thought he was going to make a prototype, >> right? That's the prototype. >> Yeah.

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And as soon as >> it's getting there. >> It's getting Oh, yeah. I think it's No, it isn't the screw now. >> No, it's this. >> Okay. Oh, >> screws the perch. >> Okay. Well, these are holes.

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>> I'm having them do is score this so the little baby birds can climb out. >> No. >> Hi. >> Hello. I'll be right. >> Oh, okay.

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>> So, we're back to freezing again, huh? >> Almost almost freezing. >> It's downright unfriendly out there. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Our house was not ready for um the 90° temperature. You know, screens in

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the windows, you know, it was >> nasty. >> Well, fortunately, I can flip that little switch. >> Yeah. Well, we don't have that little switch. But >> that was a smart move. That was probably the smartest thing I've done. >> Oh, you fixed it. Good job, Maryanne.

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What was it? Um the wrong >> So, prime video. It's the wrong one of these. Now, has this one been used much? Um, ever

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>> the TV? Yeah. Yeah, it's been used. Um, so okay. >> I'll bring it back. >> Try again. >> Did you read the Steen report? >> Yeah. Contradicted. First he contradicted twice when we met and then

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the report contradicts the third time. >> Right. >> Yeah. So, Now, now you got >> I ripped it up. >> Stain and drive pre- stain and stain. >> We're doing two coats of stain cuz this I looked the stain from Sha Williams and

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cabbage >> has a primer in it already. So, I just put on two coats of stain. >> Yeah. >> So, where what are >> Yeah. >> Oh, you got you can do the >> Yeah. Um, so the only thing I was

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thinking about with the Hurst house that probably needed to get a generator there to hit it with a pad sander. >> I've got batter sanders. >> Yeah. Enough to do that whole thing because there is some peel. There's some peeling that's happen.

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>> I've also got a nice carbide. >> Don't do it. Put that thing away. Do not do it. Don't. You'll dig in with that thing. I I wouldn't do it. would not

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um No, I use a pad sander. >> Well, I have I don't have I don't think I have enough batteries. >> It's not a problem. I can get you a generator. >> I don't see this is I sort of see maybe

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try to do side. We're going to go side of >> So, are you guys going to do it? Yeah, >> I I would >> I would be >> What is I put in for a raise for them? >> Yeah, I would I would assist them. >> Well,

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>> but I think would be an improvement over nothing. >> That's why >> I doubled Penny's salary. >> Double salary today when I stomped my feet and said, "I don't want to be." >> Oh, that's when you got your pay was docked. Are you kidding? Oh, we are having so much fun with the

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landscaping. >> Um, >> red black again. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we may not paint those corner boards. >> They're fake. >> You think that they were That's not

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saying they were painted. >> Um, appears to be paint. It's interesting because the picture >> small skates sent us have any black on clothes. >> It's all >> Yeah, the red is showing through. I

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mean, I look at it on the way over. >> I mean, pictures. >> Oh, there we go. >> There you go. Now, >> we may just do the whole thing. >> Okay. Okay. Now, have I started the Zoom

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meeting? I have. >> Um, with this We've been recording this whole time. >> All righty. Okay. Um, let's see. >> Is Molly coming? Do we know? >> You don't. >> It's probably hard for her at this time.

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>> We still have some dots left. >> Oh, >> those are the ones that worked. >> Yeah. >> Oh, right. The >> Put some back on. >> Oh, the dots are >> in the children's area. Yeah. Right. >> No. >> Should they? >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Yes. Actually, that's interesting to

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figure out what happened. >> I suppose >> it's an agenda item. >> Golly. >> All right. Are we uh >> Let's call this place to order. How many of the pictures does he

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>> 5:35 5:35 >> and then the email that has >> Thankfully I paid attention this time. >> Do we have >> Well, unless >> we don't have anybody who's tried to come. >> Okay, we don't have anybody who's tried

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to come and therefore we will move on. >> We have no public comment. >> No public comment. >> That's what you get for that's what happens when you pull the big switcheroo. Oh. >> Um, update on the remaining items to be >> You want to approve minutes?

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>> Oh, I'm sorry. >> That's okay. >> Sorry. >> Review and approve minutes of April 16th. Do I hear a motion? >> I'll make a motion to approve the minutes of April 16th. >> I'll second. >> Just like last time. >> Oh boy.

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>> That makes it easy, doesn't it? >> There she is. Right here. We have a chair for you. >> Oh, there is. There's room for you. >> It's proposal tonight. >> Okay. Any uh changes, comments? We're just reviewing the minutes changes,

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questions, comments. We've got all my >> all your information, so it made some sense. >> Okay, good. >> Thank you, dear. >> You're welcome. All right, roll call vote. Yetis I >> Elma I

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>> Foster abstain I wasn't sure I >> uh Jake I moss I >> wish I okay now let us move on to an update on the remaining items to be completed inside the library you had some meetings

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this week okay um so inside the library so one issue we have is that the um quite conveniently right outside the door here. Um >> as you can see

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>> as you can see the rug so the the um rubber flooring was supposed to extend a couple of inches this way and so the sliding door slides over the carpeting. >> There's a brush on the bottom of the door and the two things create friction

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with each other. Um the Dominic was here today to do um landscape review. I kept him here all day and um and um we talked about that because I couldn't remember where we were in that

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conversation. Um and um and we came down and we looked at it and the rug now has a hole in it. >> Take very long. So, um, so the, so the sliding door is causing the rug to

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erode. Yes. So, so since it was installed incorrectly and they're going to have to repair the rug that's fraying on the edge and now has a nickelsiz hole in it. Um, it's so

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so one solution is cutting out a piece of the rug and putting in a piece of this. It would be a strip of this >> iron, >> right? Whatever this is. Um, and >> put in a a thresh some sort of a threshold thing.

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>> So Dominic says the thresholds would be threshold. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We had like zero clearance. >> Right. >> Right. Right. So anyway, now that we actually have the rug, you know, deteriorating, you know, it wasn't going

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to. >> Yeah. >> Right. Um, and it's only been a few months and we haven't used that door a whole lot. >> You probably opened and closed it to see how it was opening and closing >> mostly. I mean, there there have been times when parents will close it to trap, you know, two-year-olds.

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>> Yes. Okay. >> And are the parents in the space with their children or not? >> No, the parents do tend to stay in the space with their children. So, >> what is Dominic's solution? Dominic's solution is cut out the carpet, put in whatever this is

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>> inlaid, >> right? And then it'll there'll be >> and another metal strip. >> Yeah, that's >> and another metal strip. >> On this side of the >> on this side of it. Yeah. >> Okay. So, anyway, so he he's going to connect with Mike on that. We've got

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this door is wonky. Um and so he's going to connect with Mike and we all saw that this door was wonky the last time we met. It's still wonky. Um, I wrote to Mike and said this door is wonky. He did. >> Is that a technical term? >> It is a technical term. Wonky. Wo.

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>> N K Y. It's a very tech. Yeah. Only only the experts. >> I know people correct me. >> Um, but we've all seen why this door is wonky. So they'll So, so Dominic looked at I showed it to him and um

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>> Did he agree that it was wonky? He did agree that it was wonky. Um, >> did you make him stand in here and then try to get out? >> Oh, that would have been fun. Yeah. Um, so, um, he doesn't like the handles either and says they're not what was specified. Um, so he's going to raise

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that. I do I think they're hard to operate. >> They are very hard to operate. Okay. Um, okay. So, >> you say Mike, what is Mike's last name? >> Masilio. And he's >> missilio. He's works for Construction Dynamics

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Incorporated. >> Okay. >> He's the project manager or >> foreman for No, >> he's the associate project manager. >> Yeah. So, okay. >> Jeff just demoted him. >> All right.

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>> I promoted him a long time. >> I know he did. >> I know he's not your favorite person. >> Okay. He's not the one you hit with the hard hit. Okay. No, that was dominating. Okay, so >> have to be double.

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>> I had my shuffle outside. Okay. Um, so the lighting is another thing. Um, >> so um, so lighting controls. So, so according to the project specifications,

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we should have lighting controls in the children's room and in the adult room so that we can dim the lights. Now, we can't we can't even turn them off. Um, so the lights are either on or off and and they're by and they're controlled by

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daylight sensors or motion sensors. So, they need to >> So, are they automatically dimming or going off? Well, they do according to the daylight and they go off if there's nobody in the room. Okay. >> But like say if we decided to have an event in the library in the evening and

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we wanted to dim the lights, we don't have the ability to do that. But we we own the ability to do that. So, um, so, so Ted, >> because you could do a glow-in-the-dark thing. You need to be able to turn the lights off. >> Exactly. Exactly. Yes. You know, I

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always do glow in the dark things. >> Dylan there. Yes. Okay. So, um so they have to run some Cat 6 cabling to connect it to the um touchscreen controller next to the

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circulation desk. So, that's something that is specified. It's in the the specifications and they just missed it. >> So, we own controlling only from the touch screen, >> right? Okay. >> Right. Yes. And then you can't control

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the lighting in the director's office. And the lighting in the director's office is meant to torture whoever is in there the way it's set up now. So, um, so they were >> we supposed to be able to. >> Yes. Yes. It's 2026.

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Dimming has been around probably since the 1970s at least, right? Okay. So, so um so they um they talked about connecting it to the controller. They go back and forth.

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Um so they are going to put a dimmer on the light switch in that room. Um so and that and we're not paying extra for it. I >> No, you can turn it on and off. >> I can turn it off. I mostly keep it off. Yeah. Um and just >> But they can't just can't dim it, >> right? You can't dim it. And they're

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just it's just way too bright. You don't have to interrogation room, >> right? Yeah. >> You just don't move when you're in there and then it doesn't realize you're in there and the lights go off. >> You Yeah, you'd have to not move for 15 minutes. Okay. But anyway, I just turned the lights off for now. So, they're going to fix that. Um

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>> that's cheap. >> We're not paying for that. >> Yeah. No, but I mean that's cheap. >> Okay. It's like bucks. >> Okay. There are some outlets in the director's office that don't work. They're going to fix that still. Yeah. They have >> There's all over the library that don't work, right? No, but Roger went all

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around and tested them all and they all worked. So, that's good. >> Except for those. >> Except for those. Um, let's see. And then in the meeting room, we own or what what was specified is

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dimming control for to dim just the first row of lights on the south end of the building. So just the first row and then the lights that would shine on the wall on the west side and on the south

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side and then the cove lighting that runs along the east wall. Um those should all be dimable. There should be six different places that are and then the whole room. We can dim the whole room now. Um but we can't dim anything else. And so >> so you can't turn off the lights that

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are shining on the screen, >> right? just those. >> Right. Right. So, um you can either it's either all on, all off, or some dim. Right. And there's two different levels of dim. >> So, we're supposed to have a different controller, but they couldn't source

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that controller. They >> the hoped you wouldn't notice, >> right? So, they um and then it may be that that they didn't specify. So, remember

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the other day they were talking about um like needing some kind of four circuit switch in order to for the for the control panel to work. >> It may be that in order to have that functionality, whatever switch they

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specified won't won't allow for that functionality. So, we're figuring all of that out. Um okay. Um there are three Yes. So when uh I was here and we were meeting the other day and talking about that

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>> do we we just own being able to dim that first row. >> Can it be the first two? Remember we talked >> not without some extra wiring. >> So um but I'll talk to Ted about that and see what it would take. Okay. Um

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okay. Um there are three ballers that don't work outside. Ted's coming tomorrow and he's going to fix those. He's going to do the wiring to connect the things to the control panel, fix the outlets in the director's office, maybe put the dimmer in. I don't know if he's

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got that part yet or not. Um uh so um >> when he comes tomorrow to do the ballards, >> I'm trying to get more information on this issue of they're not mounted at the right height. >> Okay. And they're going to continue to

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burn out. >> Okay. All right. >> I mean, the thing is they're not found the right way. >> What >> What does the hype have to do with them burning out? >> Well, one of the electrical guys said that they're not installed at the right

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height, so he thinks water is getting into the >> Oh, I see. I see. Gotcha. had said that. >> That's why if you notice at the >> south end of the building, we move the mulch away from the bulge. >> I did see that. >> Cuz I want water now to get away from

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those lights. >> Yep. I see. So, okay. >> They was speculating. >> They were set too low. >> Were they set too low or >> they just threw that out and nobody knew

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whether that one was true. And um Dominic was going to investigate further. >> And Dominic still says he's going to investigate further. >> I'll say that the three of them stopped working right away and there are 20 of

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them out there and they were all out there all winter and the rest of them all still work. >> Yeah. So when they open it up, >> right, >> we'll know. >> Okay. All right. And I'm going to be here watching every watching them like a hawk.

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>> Yeah. The first one that Jeff cleared the mulch from that the concrete which he cleared it down to wasn't too far below the level of the asphalt. But as you go back, you know what they did is when

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they put the mulch down, they put the mulch down to be level with the asphalt. And the third ballard is about that. The concrete is about this far. Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit, not much below the top of the mulch. So that

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could hold some moisture. But you know what Maryanne says makes a lot of sense because I don't we didn't check around these other Well, if you look out at that one, you can see you can see the concrete at the base of the ballard and that's at

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about the level of the walkway. >> So we don't know enough yet, >> right? >> Who we are, >> right? and we'll just have them fix it. Um, so that's so that's everything in the building. Now we can do outside the building. >> Oh, or the plumbing issues have gone

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away. >> So the plumbing issues were um well, I guess there's two plumbing issues. So, one plumbing issue was we had a clog and that's because people were being bad and so they put something somebody put something in the toilet

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that didn't belong that shouldn't have gone any toilet and we had a clog outside. Um >> Oh, so that's why all I was wondering why all the bathrooms weren't available. Okay. It's like we have three. >> Right. Right. It was that we discovered that they all didn't work that we knew

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it was a bigger problem. So that so the plumber came they're not going to charge us um if >> even though it wasn't a failure of the >> right it wasn't a failure of the system if um if if we knew that so I would

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think that it while everything's under warranty you just call the plumber and you don't attempt anything yourself but once that's up um I feel confident that that I could do that what that guy did with the assistance of one one another

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person and that we wouldn't have to call upon her every time. But I'm hoping that there isn't it doesn't become an every time. >> And you did increase the amount of signage in each restroom. >> There were there were signs in each restroom and now there are five signs restrooms >> at at all reading heights,

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>> right? Yeah. And I mean the thing is that we um children use the restrooms and sometimes things fall into toilets by accident. Um, and sometimes people

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who don't live in rural areas and have septic systems use restrooms and aren't aware of things. So, um, so we'll just hope for the best. Um, and it did take four months, you know, for things to

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clog up. Um, so that's one thing. So the other thing is that um so the water the wellwater is tested once a month um at four bacteria and then it's tested about four times a year it's tested for all other things according to a schedule

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determined by the DP. So we've had um low levels of caulifform bacteria. Um, it happened when they first built the system and then it happened again after the first time they chlorinated. So, we

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chlorinated the well before we even opened and then the water operator chlorinated the well. Um, and then it happened again. So, >> but you said it's not E.coli. It's a different color. >> Right. Right. And the and you the like

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the water, you can still drink the water. It's not harmful. Um so um so the certified water operator which is Hatonic Basin that's the company we hired who's bas um

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>> they um uh they came out and they did a they did a pressure test um and they didn't find that there was an issue with any of the water lines. Um so they did they took a

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bunch of samples and they've sent off all of those samples and then um because that's the process that's required and then they will recom they have an engineer and their re their engineer will recommend um either a UV sanitation

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system or a chlorination system. Um and um so they're they're determining the best they're waiting for the test results and then they'll determine the best course of action. Um and the UV sanitation system requires that somebody

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take a reading and record it every day. Um >> every day. >> Every day. Yeah. Every day. Yeah. Yeah. So which I mean it means you keep a clipboard next to it with a pencil on a chain. >> It's inside. >> It's inside in the water. something that

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you just walk back there, >> right? >> Read the numbers, write it down, >> write it down. Yes. Yeah. So, okay. >> Does the water the water fountain has a its own filter? Yes. >> And does it filter for this for bacteria? >> I don't know. But I think

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we we're not we have we've not been like I asked is the water safe to drink? The water is safe to drink. So, they have not said don't drink the water. So, um and I've asked very specifically. So um

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so and we haven't had e coli um that I think would be a different story um so and then you know um wells and water are outside so you know um with all the elements so

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there's um I think that sometimes things get in so um so that's that. So now um we have storm water infrastructure. Um >> we're moving outside.

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>> Yes, we're moving outside. So water brought us outside. So storm water infrastructure. So we have basin number one, just this big one over here. That one looks fine. >> Basin number two has um signific a

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significant amount of standing water in it that looks like it's been there a long time. and and it's more water than it should have. So Dominic thinks that the grade was So that basin had a lot of sediment

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wash into it. It's it needs some work. So that's one thing. I sent them pictures the other day. Um and so that's one. There's an outlet behind that basin that doesn't have a number or a name. Um and it um Oh, and then basin number two

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has um the plastic thing that keep that the hole where things drain into it. >> Agree. >> Right. Whatever it is. And that um that has standing water in it. So it seems like the that maybe isn't installed

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properly because that shouldn't have we haven't had rain in almost a week. Um >> how much standing water? Okay. An inch. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, so they're one, two, and three. One is the one by the right here. >> This two is here

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>> and three is out by the road >> and three is out by the road. Okay. So, three is and then the So, that one behind number two that doesn't have a name or a number that has a lot of like silt on top of the rocks and the silt is

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preventing water from being able to drain properly. So that needs to be cleaned out and I told them that. >> And also the water that goes through picks up that silk and carries it out into the wetland, >> right? So that's why the silk needs to be removed. Right. So anyway, so I took

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pictures, sent it to everybody, and then showed it to Dominic today. Um, >> so who is now going to follow up with Mike on the >> Dominic's going to follow up after? So I emailed that all to Mike and Mike was in the meeting the other day when we were talking all of this. And then Dominic's

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going to follow up Okay. >> With an email to Mike. He's going to copy all of us. Okay. Um and then uh >> should I keep going? >> No, no, no. I'm just uh I thought the the rocks that were covered with silt

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were the final outflow of Basin Run and I and I No, >> it No, it's that doohickey back there that doesn't have a name or a number. >> But that's part of basin. It's the outflow part of basin one. Oh, it might be. Yeah. Okay. Uh, all righty. So, and

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now there's number three, which runs along Lefort Road, which has been a problem ever since they built it. So, um, so here's what happened. Um, in my expert opinion, um, so they built it and they didn't and they built it late in

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the season of not this past winter, but the winter before. Um, there was a lot of erosion. Um and um and so like it filled up and then it was never repaired

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properly. And so at the end so the so it's supposed to be constructed that it has two sides and those two sides are 6 in higher than the spillway at the end. Um but they're not. It's all the same height. So, it's supposed to be like

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this weird shaped thing with, you know, that that goes down like this and then there's this spillway maybe to prevent the water from going out on the sides. >> Okay. So the spillway at the end eroded during that first winter and they did a

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temporary or what should have been a temporary fix by filling in the gully that formed and the other places that eroded with wood chips. And then me being the minister of common sense,

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um I thought that the best course of action would have been to take out those wood chips and fill it in with soil and then to seed it and then put um some erosion control netting over it so that that seating could get established.

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>> So So Mark said that was all done or that it had been repaired. and me being gullible uh the minister of gullibleness um just assumed that they had repaired it properly. So I explained to Dominic that that still doesn't seem to be

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functioning properly in that this end of it seems to be lower than that end of it. Um and if you go down there and look at it, you'll see that you look uphill, you know. Um, so, um, so anyway, when I looked when I went to take the pictures

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yesterday, I noticed that the areas where they had filled in with wood chips were still just wood chips. And those wood chips are what are washing away. So, they never actually repaired it. And wood chips are not going to grow vegetation really.

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>> So, really, really, I feel quite confident that that's the case. Yes. Well, I don't know. Maybe five years, they'll decompose enough down >> and then they'll grow something. >> I'm not patient. I'm not. So, anyway, if they're still there, but they won't still be there because they'll wash

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away. So, so anyway, I now insist that they just rebuild that whole thing that they they they can't >> it can't be it can't just be a patch. They need to just take that whole thing out, rebuild the whole thing, seed it, put some erosion control over it. So,

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anyway, Dominic took pictures. He agrees with me. He also has mentioned several times that the the sides are supposed to be higher. Mike in our call the other day was saying, "Well, we'll fix it, but you know, we've fixed it again, and we've said that the design isn't good."

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It's not the design. It's that it was built late in the season. Vegetation didn't have a chance to grow. It didn't have proper erosion controls on it. It eroded and then it was never repaired. So, if it So, they need to

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just fix it. So, um, so we've I've sent I sent pictures and a narrative and I made Dominic look at it today. So, um, so we'll see, you know, when that gets done. So, I think there'll be some emails flying around. >> So, just while you're talking about the

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basins, >> basin number one, three by the road is fairly vegetated, the the lowest part of it. Same in number two, but three out here is still >> one out, sorry, one out here is still

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just bare soil. So what is the plan for that? >> Right. Well, so that that needs work and that, you know, >> and that's part it's not just it needs to be recontoured some, right? >> It needs to be reveated, >> right? Yes. Yeah. So that was that was

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part of the conversation today. It needs attention. So they need to come up with a plan for fixing it. There's a like brown standing water in it. So, >> yeah, it's got kind of a sheen to it. >> Yeah. So, um so that's that. And now the

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other thing outside. So, Penny will will we'll both talk more about the whole landscaping thing. Um but well, so then the other thing is so the landscaper came today and Greg Tupelo from Simpson Associates.

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Um and and it and it looks pretty good out there. Um there are five >> that they said it in late November, >> right? Yeah. So everything has been >> before you get to the plants. Okay. >> What does Simpson have to say about the

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storm water? Of course. That's not their deal, is it? >> It's not their deal, but he agreed with everything. >> The civil engineer. >> Yeah, it's the civil engineer. Dominic's going to get in touch with them. Um but he agreed that things didn't look, you know, he he said, "Yeah, that that standing water doesn't look good there.

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It does that's not right, you know." So he he kind of agreed, but it's not his thing. But so there are um so they seated all the places that needed to be seated. They've seated it with a rye and then they seated it with

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>> annual ry a mix of annual rye and then uh seeds of four different kinds of fescues, >> right? like a low growing fescue. >> Low growing fescue, right? >> Yeah. Um and so all that seeding has been done. Most of what you see out there is the variety because the fescues

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um germinate later and they like warmer temperatures to germinate and some of that and they will continue to germinate through the months. But it doesn't look terrible is what we all agree. >> It's not a lot of bare soil. >> Right. Right. So

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>> then recovering in some places, >> but there's more that but but more will germinate, you know, and we'll know more in a month than we thought there would. >> Yeah. Because there is a problem with annual rye. It does die and then and then you're left with the bare spots, >> right? But the what the the plan was you

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you put the combination down knowing that the rye will germinate quickly and hold things in place. It's like a nursery. >> That's always the plan. And I mean I've been through it many times and but you know I'm just saying that you know >> right >> the annual ride when it goes away you

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know usually you have >> because it's been occupying space you when it finally dies you have >> what you don't want. >> Yeah. >> Right. But we have but the fescus are you know >> fescus are the right type of >> right. Those should germinate and you

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know and if they don't germinate then they'll have to come see it again. >> Okay. So, um, they they remove the tags from almost all of if not all of the plantings. I >> found one of the tags. >> Okay. Excellent. Um, Penny Penny is

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going to tag the things she can identify and then they're going to come and they're going to tag the rest. Um, so that in a year if something is dead and it's up to us to replace it, we'll know what it is we need to replace. There are five spice bushes that didn't survive

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the winter, they're going to replace them all. um uh they're going to um so we should not um water or trim any of the trees until the

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warranty is up. Um so they're responsible for that. So they will send somebody here once a week to water once the watering is necessary. And there and there are things like plethora and some of the trees that had some winter dieback. They're going to

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trim all of that up so it looks better for us. Um, >> when is the warranty out? >> Well, so the warranty starts when Simson signs off on it and they think they're going to sign off on it in a month. >> So, >> what about the non-natives that were

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planted? >> They're going to take them out. >> They're going to take them out >> and replace them. They and they >> their cost. >> Okay. Yeah. Um >> how many of them are there? >> Two. >> Two. Yes. Yes. >> And and I gotta tell you, it's sad because they look great.

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>> But we were very clear um in writing, you know, repeatedly that we didn't want non-natives. It's and I will say it is hard to source native plants and it's hard to source large native plants >> and it's hard to source anything in

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particular in November, >> right? It is but it is hard. So and and but then they do fall back on well you tell them this is what you want and this is what you give they give you. And so we being fresh off of a a workshop just

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last night where we learned about the benefits of planting native plants for pollinators and birds. Um we're firm and we were like we had an actual expert here last night. We know what we're talking about. So and and I mean Penny

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is an expert. So um but yeah. >> Are the non-native shrubs or they trees? >> Shrubs. They're a witch hazel. Well, actually, it's funny. They're really big witch hazel, so they're in the tree category in their list, but they're shrubs. >> Yeah. Um I mean, they're not going to

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get much taller than that. Like, like >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, I have a fair amount of witch hazel. It's, you know, >> can it It's not going to be like an oak tree. >> No, it's very open,

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>> right? Yes. Okay. So anyway, they do look great, but they're not native plants, so they're not >> I bet they give them away. I bet they're just going to leave them on the side of the road. >> Yeah, we'll see. But they're just not as they're not, you know, they're not hazardous to wildlife, but they're not

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beneficial for wildlife either. And we we want this to be a place where things are beneficial to wildlife. Um, so before um before mostly Penny, but before we talk about the landscaping

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needs, um I saw Nancy today and um who lives next door. Um and so um so anyway, I love Nancy and Nancy loves me and Nancy loves the library and Yeah. And No, no, no, no, it's not. And um but

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Nancy would like some privacy. Um, so what I would like to do is just sort of like take the the bushes for the privacy screen between NY's house and here like

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out of the total project and just >> like and just do it and say these are important. They're about a privacy screen for the neighbor. It's important to get them done as quickly as possible. Um, we are going to have to Where do we have to drive to get those?

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>> Well, the only place I found that have the really big ones is Weston in Hopkin. >> In all the way the one in Hopington. Okay. Um, >> they don't have them at any of their satellite groceries that I found. >> Right. So, I think to get them, we're

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going to have to rent a van. Um, >> or does somebody have a truck? >> Well, how big are they? Yeah, >> they're five feet tall. >> Yeah, they won't fit in my truck unless I take the cap off, which is a whole another thing. >> Yeah, in fact, without a cap.

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>> What about a a trailer? >> Well, they Well, they shouldn't be blowing in the wind on the highway. >> Oh, >> I mean, they would in a truck, too. >> Oh, yeah. You want to get a van? >> You can if they're in a trailer, lay them down.

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>> Got a >> If they're in a trailer, you can let them down. a van or he has a trailer. Yeah, he has a trailer. >> He has a trailer, >> right? >> You could tarp them. >> That would be what you would want to do, I would think. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But tarping on trailer is like going at highway speeds.

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>> Yeah. >> Well, you go the back. >> If you're going to Hopkins backross to Hopington, you take 21. >> Um >> I think we should just rent a van from >> How many are you getting?

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I'm going to buy four big ones >> and hopefully five smaller ones. >> 100 bucks, right? Yeah. >> And they're like, "Yeah." >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um and so, so like I'd like to go get them this week.

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>> Don't get them until the highway department is >> BM, right? >> Prepared to place the plan. >> All right. Okay. So, can we So, can we just I make a motion. So, I'm leaving. So then it's gonna fall on you. Um but I make them unless we do it this week.

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Okay. >> Do it this week. >> Okay. All right. So I make a motion that we just remove them from the rest of the project because in the interest of like >> So we're doing that so that we can do it sooner because otherwise we have to wait. >> And because it is because our neighbor

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has been very patient and and >> you know and she does have this intrusion on her property now. Um, so and that we should just work on getting that done. Penny and I did meet with Haley about having the highway

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department build a small burm there. Um, and so that needs to be done and then um and then we need to get them. So >> So the burm will be on her side and then well all the >> on land on that side along the driveway

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>> close to the properly line. >> Yes. the burm will be and then the plants will be on top of that >> in the BM on top of the berm. In other words, give it a little bit more elevation, >> right? You can add some slightly nicer soil, but you know, all of this has the

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soil's been amended somewhat, but that's just where that's planted. It's outside of the limit of work and it's just >> right, >> you know, rain grass and andy soil. So, it'll also benefit the plants a little bit. >> Why remove it from the project? I think

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what you mean is um we've paid for it with the total project and we're going to pay for it separately on our own. >> Well, we haven't even gotten to that yet. So, this would just be we're going to just say this needs to be done. It's an it's an issue with providing some

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privacy for the neighbor that we've promised her. We've put her off and put her off. And so we want to just say we're not quite ready to move forward with buying everything else and planting everything else, but we want to just get this done. So we >> would that have been our responsibility anyway?

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>> Yes. Okay. >> Yeah. It's part of it was part of the whole landscaping project, >> but it's not going to be bundled with the rest of the plants that we're buying, >> right? >> Yeah. And we're talking hundreds of dollars here. We're not talking thousands, right? >> Thousands. >> We are talking,

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>> but 2,000. Well, each bodendrum is around Well, it depends. They're between $250 and $500, >> right? And how many you buy? >> I I propose we buy four of the biggest

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buys that we can find, which would be in a row closest to NY's house, and then five in front that are slightly smaller. So, 2,000 and then 3,250. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um,

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>> and you know, I've looked at I've looked at their prices online. I haven't seen the plans, so I don't know, >> right? >> What they actually look like, >> right? And I mean, okay, >> we've got friends money and >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. We've got we've got money. >> Okay. Yeah. It's not about the money. It's about just sort of saying it's

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important to get this done now, so we're just going to get it done now. And then Okay. So then um so I make a motion that we do that that we just move forward with getting the roodendrreds planted um between the library and NY's property

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to give our neighbor the privacy that >> I second it. >> Can I make a well can I make a an amendment to your motion >> that we also put in three trees at the same time that provide some shade which is important for the success of the rooted ends. Absolutely.

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Okay. So, I'll second that. Seconded. Oh, I'm sorry. I was saying hello second to my third at the second.

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>> Okay. And you want this? You want it done before you come back? That would be awesome. >> It'll help. Yeah, >> I'll go with you. >> Go with me. Yeah. To get the >> to get the

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>> plant. >> Mhm. >> Okay. And then we need to find someone with a Well, actually, well, I'll look that up. >> Okay. >> We have a tractor. We have a tractor. I'll fix your tractor.

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>> That's a good size. >> We have to source the tree, too, right? >> What? >> Uh, >> we have to what? source the trees >> from Sugarloaf because I know they have one in stock now.

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>> Six and 650 bucks. >> Two of them. >> They only Well, we could get two or we could get Yeah, I'd get three trees from Sugarloaf now. >> Yeah. Go easy on the yolks. >> Oaks have these things that are called

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acorns. And if you don't break the acorns up, it's a problem. So it doesn't matter, >> right? Because that's >> it always matters. >> No, because with this we're not we're not having lawn here. We're having >> we're having like meadow. So um so the

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acorns don't matter and oaks are important keystone trees that are >> last night >> as we learned last night. Um and so they're important for the for they're important for conservation science. They're important for feeding

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pollinators and birds. >> So, >> but they are a good source of food. >> Yes. >> But >> yeah, but they also make acorns that they >> can also sell acorns. >> A lot of acorn >> beings in the in the you know. >> Yeah. Well, that's another issue.

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>> Right. >> Okay. All righty. So, that's good. >> Yeah. So, library. >> So, we going to vote on this thing. >> You're going to deliver >> deliver. Yeah. Okay. They won't plant, but they will deliver. >> Discussion over. We've been still

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discussing. >> I hear no more discussion. >> Roll call vote. >> That's Nella's eye. >> Do we need a roll call vote when we're all in person or can we just say I? >> Well, it's recorded. >> It's being recorded. Okay. >> Nella's eye.

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>> We're not done yet. >> Thomas eye. >> Foster. I >> reluctant eye. Jake I >> I All righty. So now on to so so we are

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required to plant 71 trees. No 41 trees. >> 71 shrubs. >> 41 trees and I think 73 shrubs. Um and um and Penny has been >> getting crabbier and crabier about it.

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>> Getting crabbier and crabier about it. But anyway, it's a it's a big thing. So, um so if so so we're going to do so so we've always planned to do when we originally

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took all of this landscaping out of the project, we thought that the highway department would help with the planting. The highway department doesn't have the skill level that it had before the cheerfulness. >> Okay. Well, the highway department mostly doesn't just doesn't have a a

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natural experience trained landscaper on the on the staff. So, um so it so it's not practical to to think that they can help us. So, um and trees are

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not really something volunteers can plant. They're too big to move without equipment and expertise. So, so we have to put in these 41 trees and we have to hire somebody to plant them. And those and so there are three different levels of procurement. There's under $10,000

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where you can, you know, you can go to a nursery or to a landscaper and you can say, "I need X how much it's going to, you know, and it's I expect it to cost $9,000 and then you can just get the reverbal quotes." Um, then there's

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$10,000 to $50,000 and you have to have a scope of services and you have and that has to be advertised and then people give you quotes. Um, so um

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Oh my god, I'm walking. Okay. Um, so um and then the and then if it's over $50,000 it has to go out to bid. Okay. So, but then that that but the 10 to $50,000 of scope of services that has to be advertised like in the newspaper on

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conbby on the central register >> and for how long? Two weeks. >> Yeah. For two weeks and then and so so then that falls under Haley's job doing all of that. So, so we met with Haley and we're sort of getting pricing on

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trees to see where things fall. And then I'm working on a scope of services for the trees cuz it seems like the trees could fall between the 10 and $50,000. So, I'm working on the scope of services

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so it'll be ready to be advertised so that that can be done while I'm away or before I'm away. That's that's a very important step. >> Yes. Okay. Yes. >> We have to have all these trees and shrubs in by a certain date. >> Yes.

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>> The order conditions which specified that we have to do this expires. I think it's in March of 2027. So, we have to plant them this growing season or ask for an extension.

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So >> I think we well >> no no no say >> well so um I I spoke with u uh somebody that I've known for 40 years who plants trees. He's a landscaper from

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Beluretown. >> Is this Mike >> Mikey? >> So he does does he source trees or does he just >> Yes, he Yes, he sources trees. Um, and we talked and you know, basically I I answered as many questions as I could.

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>> Um, and he basically deals with wholesalers, okay? And he had a catalog, okay? He he did that, you know, we he opened, you know, he had it right there, you know, without knowing that I I walked in there. He had no idea we were

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going to be discussing trees. Okay. Um, so, uh, anyhow, so he's well verssed in this and I even have photos right in my pocket of trees that he's planted in Belchure Town that he just had me check out on the way out. The guy's very very competent, very high quality, he's got

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all the equipment, but a couple things that he he mentioned to me, four points I think that that I want to raise here is uh first of all, uh, you know, we we don't know really how good the soil is here. So, we know that when we dig a

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hole, there's a good chance that whatever we take out of that hole, we probably don't want to put back in the hole. Okay? >> So, that means whatever we take out of the hole, we have to have a place to put that material. And we whatever we put in the hole, we

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have to have a source for that material. Okay? So um so as in loan as in decent quality lom to put in the hole around the trees >> but current wisdom is that you don't really want to alter the soil very much or treat because in the long run they'll

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outgrow this the hole and then they'll be in the crappy soil. >> But if we're digging out rocks and gravel and things like that that's we don't want to put that in there. >> Okay. So anyhow >> so let let me just continue. Okay. >> So I think so in in that sense I think

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that we may still have to rely on on somebody like Dennis Clark to provide a place to put the stuff that we don't want to put back in the ground and if if and when we need lom to provide the loan. Uh the the other thing that he also told me which makes me a little

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concerned about the 41 trees is that he you know because he's been doing this for a long time. He told he talked to me about some trees that he planted 20 years ago on a 50-ft uh spread that are now touching. So you know knowing that it's like well

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you know if we have to if we if you're going to follow any kind of a rule of thumb like that around here you know we don't you know where are we going to put 41 trees? But that's a whole another problem. >> Um, >> and I think that has been sorted out. >> Well, we have a plan.

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>> Okay. So, that's the other thing. So, so in order to do this, we need to have the plan out there so that people can look at that plan. >> We have the plan. >> Okay. Yeah. >> But, you know, I mean, if if Okay. Yeah. A a plan like that. Okay. A piece of paper. >> That's the plan.

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>> Okay. And copies of that plan. Okay. that that can be that can be, you know, given to people so that they can look at them and and and a list of trees that are acceptable. >> I have all that.

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>> Okay. Okay. So, that's got to be given to Maryanne and that's got to go into the scope of service. >> I'm going to put that in the scope of service. >> Yeah. Because right because, you know, I found that there were too many questions that I couldn't answer which made me believe that, you know, we're really not far enough along on this whole thing.

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No, no, no. We do. I have >> Well, I know that you have it, but it just it has to be made available to others. Okay. >> Who are going to look at this? >> Talk to me. >> Okay. Well, >> yeah. >> Right. Yes. Okay. >> So,

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>> we have to pay prevailing wage, right? >> Yes, >> we have to pay prevailing wage. Okay. And so then for the for the shrubbery, um so like the trees we can't do with volunteer labor. Um the shrubbery we always intended to do with volunteer

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labor. So I really think this is two separate projects. Um it is and the shrubbery we're just buying 73 shrubs >> 71 >> only 71 >> 71. Okay. Um and well and then we and then we just voted to take the road of

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dungeons out because we want to get that done as soon as possible. So that takes out some. Um >> nine >> nine. Uh and so >> can I just continue for one second and we also have to consider >> how are we going to water 41 trees. So you know I think the thing I I mean I

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like the idea of doing 20 and 20 or 20 and 21 something like that and but the problem is that having to do it by next March. I mean we're you know we can't be planting trees now because we're we're heading into July and it's a and it's a very bad time for all of that. I mean, I

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think we're look I >> as a gardener, I'm very aware of that and and we have a plan for all of that. >> Okay. So, I mean, I'm thinking that we're probably going to start the tree planting in the fall. >> I >> or August at the earliest. >> I think we want to get them in as soon as we can.

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>> Yeah, but that What kind of an answer is that? >> I think I think we should have planted them in April, but we weren't there. >> So, what kind of an answer is that? What are we going to do now? Okay. Now, at the end of May, >> getting prices for trees. We're going through the process that we learned. We

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have to go through we have we will have hoses and we will have volunteers to water them for the entire growing season >> if we have enough water in the well to do that. >> But you only water once a week. >> Okay. >> And we and there's plenty of them.

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>> Have a so a rotating schedule of Yeah. Like five trees a day or something? >> Yeah. >> Or six trees a day. >> No. Well, we don't have to water one the ones the contractor put in because we're not supposed to mess with those

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until the warranty's up. Which the ones that we're putting in over here? >> So, of the 41, how many are left? >> Oh, no. The 41, that's all. >> No, there were twice as many. >> That's what I mean. You mean if there's we have to plant 41 trees and the

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contractors planted x number amount of trees, how many trees are we planting? >> Oh, no. Where? No, we we have to plant 41. >> We have to plant 41. >> Like 41. >> Dave plant. >> I don't know the number. I can count. >> Okay. >> I have all the numbers on this.

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>> Yeah. Well, we >> I agree that it's really difficult. >> Um >> Well, you know, I mean, this is going to be a hot this is supposed to be a hot dry summer. And you know, I'm just very worried about, you know, >> Well, we had we had a hot dry fall last

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year, too. I mean, we I was harvesting tomatoes into early November. >> Mhm. >> And watering like crazy. So, you know, it's unfortunate that we're here now, but I don't think we have a choice other

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than to move forward as quickly as we can and get things into the ground as quickly as we can. And I hope we don't get to the point where we have to decide that, you know, they'll fall. But for me, you know, I think getting them in the

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ground, keeping them watered, and letting them get established is the best things that we can do. >> And I do think we have a lot of people that are interested in helping. >> Yeah. I mean, you're about water. Volume of water is a concern.

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>> Well, I mean, you know, I mean, I'm just looking at at the end of May and I don't see us putting a tree in the ground for another month. I mean, you know, especially if we've got to if we've got got to put this thing out, you know, I mean, we got to create a scope of services and all that and put it out.

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>> Find that out this week that that that we have to go through that whole process. >> So, I mean I mean that's my my point is I you know I don't see us doing a thing until the end of June putting the >> ground other than the stuff beside NY's. You're right.

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>> So, you know, so Right. So, >> and so then and then we have to remember that we we have to get the trees planted and we need to do that first and then we'll do the shrubbery >> and maybe we'll do the shrubbery in the fall. But I feel like, >> you know, trying to do it's it's going

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to have to be phased because it's such a lot of work. >> It it is a lot of work and I don't know. I mean, >> yeah. A and the the other thing is is planting 41 trees is going to, you know, all this lovely lawn you guys are just talking about. It's going to get, you know, it's going to get affected.

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I mean, because you're going to have to have a heavy machine moving these trees into place and then you're going to have to get a small back coat digging holes. >> But but you have to remember that we intentionally let the contractor plant all the things that are further out into the lawn. All

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the stuff we're planting is right along either side of the driveway or around the loop back here. So, we're not going to be driving over grass except right at the very edge. >> We're stuffing 41 trees right through here. >> Mhm.

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>> Okay. There you go. >> Patrick closes. I guess it's fine. It's nothing. >> Yeah, except that the rug has a hole in it now. So, okay. >> So, >> so I actually, just to throw this out, I

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I was thinking about, okay, we get all this new plant material and water and if I remember correctly, it's a fairly low yield well, so you don't have uh a lot of extra capacity. But I thought, oh, can set up a thing where you ask people

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to uh >> bring water from home, >> right? Yes. No, seriously, save your gallon containers, bring your milk, and when you come, bring two gallons of water. >> So, maybe people can adopt a tree. >> Yeah, >> I think we should definitely have people

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adopt a tree. >> Yeah. >> You know, and bring five gallops a week. I mean, yes. you know, children with parents. I mean, that, you know, like we're gonna this is our >> and we can get some kind of ribbon that we can put on the trees with name on names on them.

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>> I am so worried some of these trees are going to be over watered and some of them are not going to be watered. >> That's right. And and overwatering is probably worse than underwatering. So, >> just just bring the water. We'll take >> I think water. Yeah. And we'll Well,

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>> we can. >> The only thing is you there are those bags. >> Yeah. How much did the bags cost? >> I don't know. So, but >> the bags are a good idea. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There are those bags that you can fill with water and the water. >> They did that when they planted those trees at the

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>> up a town hall. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, um >> that's what the Yeah. The city of Northampton uses those whenever they put in a tree. >> They can take a empty joint comb and drill several tiny holes and pour the

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water in and works like the bags. So like the buckets um the white buckets >> the white buckets but they're also $5 >> the so where that they have at Home Depot and Lowe's. Yeah. >> Yeah. But you need like two buckets per

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tree and so that's $5 a bucket. Home Depot would >> you find you find where you find where they're >> building and you get the empties and just clean them. >> That's what I use. But >> yeah. Well, anyway, >> I've got several I can give. >> It is this it is it is a daunting

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project. And I I have to say when I learned we have had to go through this bidding process rather than just getting prices and buying trees, >> buckets or bags. >> I felt deflated. >> It's it is it's a lot. It's daunting.

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But I think I will >> the building was daunting and we did it. >> We did. We did. But we had, you know, we had instruction group. >> Well, >> we can do this. I just I'll write the scope of services by Monday

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>> and then I'll get that to Haley. I think we have No, you'll and you'll have some more information by then. I think >> I hope I'll call Emer. I'm going to tomorrow, >> right? >> And I have prices for sure. >> Okay. You you should send your scope of

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services out to buildings committee people's just so they can both read it. >> Yeah. And um >> and and it's two I mean it's it is two separate things. One is buying the trees and one is planting them because some

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nurseries only sell trees. Some nurseries sell trees and they provide planning services. Well, but if you're putting this thing out to bid, it it could be that, you know, the the contractors are going to want to provide the trees, you know, and put them in the ground

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>> with great certainty. Nobody has all the trees we want because they're not your ordinary landscaper trees. And Sugarlift doesn't have them all. Ammeris Nursery doesn't have them all. They have different, you know, one. >> So, those are those are retailers.

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They're not wholesalers. um you know the the little book that I was you know that that I was you know >> subject to two twoinch trees are available >> they're hard to find and I'll look at his book I I've done that history already

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>> what's that >> looked at all their material >> and there's there fun about working >> what we're asking for is not readily my children's librarian will sometimes text me and say if you >> well they do go fast Maybe we can get a

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concession from the conservation commission to put put in smaller trees. >> They've already said we can do that. >> They already asked. >> Okay. >> Do we have a lot more to talk about on this? If we do, I think we should put it to a committee. >> Yeah, I agree. >> But anyway, it's Yes, we can just say

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it's a more complicated project than we realized. >> Well, we're just getting we're just getting into it. I mean, >> I don't know. I feel like I'm drowning in it, but >> Well, yeah. you you know you can >> well I think we've learned that it's you know just more complicated than

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>> we thought and when we first >> envisioned this we thought the highway department would do the you know the heavy lifting and and things we realized that we had to go through was um getting >> well I think if they were doing the work

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that we wouldn't be spending as much on trees >> would still cost the same >> they would still cost the same and they're more than 10,000. >> So, actually, yeah, >> just one last thing and then let's move on. >> Um, you were going to investigate it >> whether if the money comes directly from the friends.

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>> Yeah, it doesn't it it doesn't matter because it's still here on this public project on this, you know, town library. >> Different projects. >> Yeah. Because this is a municipal library, I can get away with that because we're not a municipal library. So, we can use private money.

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>> Yeah. Can you change our status? No, no, >> just for >> you don't want to be. >> No. Okay. So, it's um you know, like we've just thought about this in all the different ways and so and I think what I'll do with the scope of services is have have it be tiered like we want

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prices on on providing these trees and um and planting them and we want prices on just planting the trees if we provide the trees. of and because because I think what we don't want to run into is

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the same thing where we had this landscaper who we had to keep going back and saying, "Nope, that's not a native plant. Oh, look, you put in native plants, take them out." You know, we want we want very specific plants. So, um Okay.

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>> Okay. >> All right. What else is there? What says? >> What else? >> What's the up? >> Oh. Oh, the bird feather friendly. >> Oh, yeah. That's on my list right there

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under window film. Okay. So, um they came out, they couldn't even get it off. They had to scrape it all off. They um put some more up. They um the film does not want to if when they put it up, they

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peel it off and it just peels the dots off. So, so >> have they found us successfully in other places? >> I think they have too long about our windows. >> I don't I don't know. They they don't seem to >> have success with it, right? So, so they

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are talking to Feather Friendly and they are looking at other products. So, there's a product called Solex, S O L YX, which is a clear film with dots that you leave on the windows. Um, and

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they're going to send me the cut sheets on that. I'm going to send it to Dominic. He's going to he knows that product. Um, and they're going to he's going to check and see if it affects the warranty, the Pella warranty. Um and so

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he was just here yesterday, the feather friendly guy. Um so so it's it's an ongoing conversation, but they have assured us that we will not have to pay anymore. >> Have has uh Heather Friendly put this

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product on other PE windows? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> What did they put on the hitch? I don't know. >> I thought it was feather friendly. >> I thought it was too. >> I can check with Colleen. >> Yeah. Um, but we'll, you know, we'll let them continue to, um, to work on it and

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I'll send him another email tomorrow. So, >> have we had many bird strikes yet? >> No. No. None of that I know of. >> Yeah. >> You haven't do you burn your sweep each morning? >> No, I don't. I don't. you know, in

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addition to logging the the water >> the water quality. >> You're gonna have a freezer full of birds to taxiderermy. So, yes. So, she has one in her freezer. So, not from here, from another escapade. So,

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and not her escapade either. So, this guy is so cute. Really is. Yeah. I don't Anyway, I don't think that little plastic toy is going to hurt the grass. Um >> if it does, we have no problem. >> Yeah. Um anyway, um but but anyway, the

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library is awesome. Um families come and hang out in the children's room for hours at a time. Um there's a you know we've finally finalized a meeting room use policy and we've got members of the

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public booking the meeting room. That's why we can't be in there tonight. Um but they had it booked before we moved the meeting. Um and um somebody new really like it for for a long time

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somebody new came in every day. there's still somebody new who comes in like at least every other day. Um uh um we're giving out new library cards every week. It's we're attracting people from out of town and people from who live in town that weren't using the library before.

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So um so we did a good thing. >> Y we should all be proud. >> Okay. Is there anything else that needs to be >> Are we gonna have a discussion about the uh bird house?

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Um, so, so another thing that we promised the conservation commission is that we will put up six birdhouses and two bathouses. Somebody donated a bat house. Um, so Dave Moer made this birdhouse. It's a prototype. It had to

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be approved by um the birdhouse. Um, >> I'm Cliff. >> Cliff, can you bring that home and have the have him? Okay. Um, so, um, he looked at Cliff's book and Cliff's notes and he took pictures of Cliff's notes and he, um, he had the same book at

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home. So, um, and, uh, and, um, and so, um, so, so I I I think that that's probably just what we want. Um, >> almost. >> Yeah. Okay. All righty. And so, you'll get us feedback. Okay. with cliff.

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>> Okay. And then somebody else has offered to make us six cedar posts to mount them on. >> Oh, great. >> Um, and I think we want cedar. >> I think we want metal. >> Can you use locus? >> I would use metal because it's harder to climb and the goal is you won't predators to climb.

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>> So metal meaning like >> metal post. Okay. >> So then we don't need those cedar posts. Okay. All right. How do we attach >> it? I think you guys flange on here that fits on.

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>> Well, if the post came up behind, you could just go right through the back here. It's a good post, which I think would be more secure. >> So, like posts like that, >> like post like that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, with a little >> street signs.

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I don't know. That looks easier to climb than than a round. >> Yeah. something around that they that they can't get their claws in. >> Yeah. >> So, okay. So, anyway, yeah, we'll figure that out. Okay. And we've certainly missed that, but that's okay. It's a

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work in pro progress. >> Back to the one question, which maybe will come up. Um, you know, I have a number of birdhouses and I often have find that >> wasp or other bees will decide to move in. So, you got all these vent holes,

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>> and I'm wondering is there >> is it important to put some screen? I mean, obviously you go in through the through the access hole, but you've got all these others. >> And yeah, actually, some of them have like a screen here.

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>> I put on >> Yeah. >> Right. >> And that lets bird spurge climb out, but it also >> putting screen the potters. >> Right. I don't know his name.

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It's hard. There's three. The middle one is >> just on this side. >> Yeah. >> And I think the oldest one is, >> you know, we also have a bunch in our field and in the winter squirrel.

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>> One of my kids could be a parent to one of these kids in there. And I I know the baby's name, but it's you know >> Bluebird. >> Okay. CPC. >> Well, I think we're >> make a motion to

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>> Yeah. >> Second. >> All in favor? Alice? >> Alice I boster I >> Okay. >> J I boss I >> And it sounds like >> Do we need another meeting? >> Do we need or do we just need to wait

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and see how things go? We need to wait and see. >> Let's wait. See how things go. Yeah. >> When are you gone? >> I leave 29. Let me turn myself. >> And uh >> Yep. Well, there'll be another meeting some point. >> All right. Um