I know just a one step one step. Yeah. >> It's literally if I notic if it doesn't show up, is there a setting that can show everybody?
>> No, that's we can do it. >> Eric, can you hear us? You are muted, but can you hear us? >> Okay. Thank you. All right. So, I'll call the Shakesburg board meeting to order 502 on October
28th, 2025. Um, so our Jang Knight has on it um public comment. And then our general business for this evening is approve minutes from 10:14 and 10, sorry,
October 14th and October 21st. accept a resignation from Darwin um I apologize for mispronouncing that name. um from the recreation committee uh discussed the Halloween plans for town with the fire chief and the acting
police chief uh reviewed and discussed the police chief's request by fire chief's request to for permission to uh take the old um fire chief's car and use it for training. Uh update on EV
chargers from Eric. Review and vote on means tested exemption percentage from the assessors. Lesly um review and sign letter for MA regarding ever source transmission by Michael Dier. I'm
assuming you're likely from with us then give us a little background too. Uh review and sign authorization form requesting access to mass energy insight data entry for Joan Johnson. And then um we have two open meeting law uh it
topics and one is from October 3rd um with a complaint from August 22nd and then review and discuss over more complaint on October 7th and then Haley will have to um meet time report for us.
Um, so any other things you need to add to the agenda? >> No. Okay. Okay. Um, so moving on. If there's anyone on camera like to make a public comment, please use the raise hand feature at the bottom of the
screen. Oh, might have just ded off. We're um or a um so anyone have a public comment? Matteo. >> Hi. Uh, I just wanted to provide a brief update. I know I talked to the select
board um, a number of months ago about the idea of using CPA funds for partnering with other towns for a regional affordable housing coordinator. And I just wanted to sort of update on that. I I spoke with Stuart Sagenor at
the Community Preservation Coalition who told me that the CPC itself can actually submit the request uh to use those funds. um uh can present that to town meeting. It doesn't have to go through the select board. So the CPA uh CPC is currently uh working through that um
process and in discussion about uh possibly putting something before a town meeting to do that. So it's off off the select board's plate. >> Okay. >> Thank you. I figured it out. Yeah. Thank you. Right in the middle of all of that. Uh
>> Diane, I see your hand. Yeah, I'm having a lot of trouble with the audio. I don't know if you can hear me. >> Yes. Yeah, we can hear you. It >> It's really hard to hear what's going on in the meeting. >> Can uh Brennan, can you hear us?
>> Yeah, I can hear you uh clear on my end. about um Eric, can you hear us? Okay, can you hear us? >> They're both muted. >> Yeah, I I can hear you. >> Okay. Not sure, Diane. Might be on your end. Seems like other people are
>> Well, it I don't have trouble hearing other Zoom meetings. Um but this one is a challenge. Thank you. Okay, we'll try to project. >> Was that your comment? So I
Okay. Um so we will move on. Um so the first is to approve minutes from our October 14th uh 2025 meeting. So do
I hear a motion to approve the minutes for October 14, 2025? >> I move that we approve the minutes from October 14, 2025. >> Second. Okay. Were there any um edits or didn't see any, but I didn't see any.
>> No, I think they're good. >> Okay. All in favor of approving the minutes from October 14th. >> Barl I. >> Stucker I. >> Pis I. And do I hear a motion for October 21st? >> Uh so moved.
>> Um do I hear a second? >> Second. Uh anyctions or edits on any >> I think that was okay too. >> Yep. Okay. All those in favor? Carol I
>> stucker I um and we have the resignation for Darwin from the recreation committee. So we um additionally accept resignations by vote. So, do I hear a motion to
accept the resignation from Darwin Rutled from the recreation? >> So, moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Frell. I >> ster I think.
Um, and now a little discussion for home media plans and department updates from fire chief and acting police chief. So, Devin and Lenny, um, what does Halloween
look like on Greg? >> I was going to just say same as last year to part the public side >> for those who may not know it. Yes, we're gonna serve cider donuts and have a bullet in the 5:00 start and then dusk
and uh stay probably till probably like 9:00ish basically disappearing pretty much when we've done every year until this shift. This department's looking forward to Halloween. It's my favorite holiday in
December and we're ready for it. We're going to be doing the trunk or treat again. Uh so we'll have a decorated. We're going to have the the road closed. That's what we typically do at the middle west
intersection. Then further down below intersection, uh it's a soft border. Uh through traffic is still let through for folks that live in town. Well, that keeps the kids more safe this
year, too, where they're doing a low state to more visibility, which obviously optional, but it's part of our little goodie bags that we give out.
So, yeah, officers on safety as patrol up and down to keep the track next. Any questions, Eric or Lita? >> No. No.
>> All right. Um, so um and Lambie, uh, you guys didn't need no vote for us for home. >> You guys didn't need a vote from us for home. Um and now uh review and discuss
the fire chief's request with I think chief's bar and music for >> yes former fire chief's car was pretty old. Sorry, I don't have the date on it, but it was pretty much rusted for the
floor. Uh I did go over sheep scar and so far I just sent back to uh basically anything with it for and uh I have been going to give it to
Clarice so we can cut off for jaw training and go to pieces for practice with our jaws. So that's what I like to do. >> A really cool demonstration. >> It is genuinely kind of hard to do training with a bunch of momers.
>> How about it? >> Yeah, we're in charge. So yeah, uh in the past has uh donated cars, brought them up to the back of the fire station. It's not a problematic to
cut cars apart and have broken glass all over the place. >> Okay. >> Um in the past, we've basically cut car um the last several years. I've asked Clark since we can go to his place and do it there. Uh we usually invite Salem
and Wendle to come over and Clark will be able to put a car on its roof and start all their scenarios. It is tough to get in there. There's not much room for the fire trucks. So, it's kind of a timesensitive portion of when we can actually do it because hopefully right
now he's got a bunch of cars crushed and he actually has room for a couple fire trucks to come in. Um but it is we can only do it just a couple times a year that there's actual room available to do it parts junkyard but it is easier that
there is your class and car parts everywhere. You don't have to clean up as much when it's kind of guards up right next to the caution. That's what I like to do to the cheese gar you know the former cheese garment.
Can I ask you an unrelated question just about uh about road closure? It's in affect your um the announcement. >> So where does the road closure for Prescuit start at Quleyville?
>> Uh it starts at the dirty bill to town farm road. >> Yeah, it's take the work down between section ofville where it starts and town farm road. So, so there's no through
traffic from 202 >> through the >> through the center. >> So, >> but somebody coming up, so traffic would be detourred onto >> bill would be unaffected,
>> right? But people coming off of 202 can't come. >> Yes. There'll be two there'll be an officer on each end of 20 to uh you know get directions on how to get around. Okay. >> Detour signs as well. >> Okay. So, is that an all day event?
>> It's from 8 to 3. >> 8 to 3. >> That's basically till they're done. But and they're going to let the the morning buses will go through. They will wait for the morning buses. Unfortunately, they got for a Wednesday, which is uh right
>> the elementary school. I I've already spoken to the elementary school so they're aware of the town farm will still be which is the only concern and if that'll be accessible it will be accessible from from 202 so you you can come up to get into town farm from 202
the closure starts after uh town farm bro >> yeah so I was going I went back and forth on do I do a short message that's straight to the point or an lengthy message that some people will get confused and then I get phone calls from
the station. So I that's the testimony for this message. I mean if you can give me more input on the future if you want more detailed messages. >> Yeah. I just think it it would have been clearer if because a lot of people don't know what because the road changes names
up until >> it's cooling up until there then it becomes Pres. So, >> don't get me wrong, I wish roads stayed the same name. >> Yeah, I the first one that wishes that, but it's kind of like Yeah,
>> because I had asked my husband. I said, "Um, what where what's Prescuit? Where is Prescuit Road?" He said, "Well, it doesn't start till you get to Koolieville." I said, "Oh, >> okay." So, you know where it where it splits off. It is frustrating because grasp will fill an elaborate within a
quarter less than a quarter month, >> right? >> And it is frustrating in a way, but that's the way it's been gone for a long time. It's a good point because we probably don't think of it as much because we know all the roads, >> right? But somebody coming, somebody who's planning on coming,
>> we're in the center of town going 202 will now say, "Wait a minute. >> They'll they'll figure it out." >> Well, that's why we have officers, right? Yeah. >> So if you're coming if you're coming up from like Leverage, you'll just be
you'll go back to Pelen Hill Road. >> You can do that one. >> Okay, cool. Okay. Just one day. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, so do I hear a vote to give uh the fire
chief permission to use the old chief garber training with the jaws of life? Uh, so moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Frell. I >> stucker I >> Okay. So get cut off. >> Um, okay. Eric, update on the EV
chargers. >> Yeah, there's a little conf there's a little confusion there. Whoops. Sorry. Here we go. No, why I'm open. Um, let's how how do I want to say this? The only we we've gone back and forth on where to put the charger if we put a
chargers anywhere. And it the bottom line is we we first we're going to do it at the town hall, then we're going to do it at the school, then we're going to go do it at the highway department. finally decided we really should do it at the at the new library. That's where the place is where cuz you really want someone to
be able to charge their car and walk in, you know, do something creative for half an hour while they charge it. Um, and we didn't really want to create a situation where people were walking into the town hall and end the school or the school um
or the highway department for that matter. So, um the idea was to do it at the um library. Um, at least Maryanne is okay with that as long as we don't some of the um if you own if you lease the Chargers
you as opposed to owning them, you have to um basically let them let there be a always open um station to park the cars, park electric cars because they want they want to get the they want to make money. They want
the charges there. Um, if you own the charges, I think you can do whatever you want. You can decide that like Maryann, that's basically what she was saying. She just wants a situation where like somebody if there's no part, you know, this there's u I think there there are 12 spaces there and let's just say the
12th space, you know, just gets can can be used as a regular parking spot. That's what she wants. Um, I think that's okay. Um the uh the this is this is a complicated
issue. The other issue is like if the uh if we had um parking spaces at the town at the town garage were overflow parking. Um we did look at that. I know the garden club has looked at it. We looked at it the other day and one thing
is clear that if you move the entrance to the highway department down the road toward Lever, if you moved it 10 ft, there's plenty of of sight line when you get out of there, you can look out and see the traffic coming both ways and so forth. That's what I know Dave was
really objecting to before about the the burm was that they couldn't see around it. Um, but I think that's a solvable problem, but which we'll talk on when we talk to him on uh Thursday, we'll see if we can get that straightened out. Um,
so the bottom line is it's it's still happening. It's, you know, it's still a little bit what's the word? It's it's it's a little confusing at this point, but I think it will happen. >> Yeah. U Mike Michael has a question, >> Sarah. I mean, I'm assuming we'll talk
about this in ECAT later, so I'll get an update. But just to clarify, what ECAT had recommended was not owning them. So, are you thinking that you want to own them? So, you have flexibility at the library.
>> Well, yeah, the the owning them is the only way we would get flexibility to be able to use the library to be able to own them all. Is it all or nothing? like we have to own them all in all locations. >> I'm not even sure how many there are. I don't think there's more than one or two
of them anyway. >> Um >> looking at two chargers and yeah, it's all or nothing. And then the other complicating factor is we can't go to that town hall or I guess we could but it needs to be on a paved spot. So that's only the front section of the
town hall >> and it also has to be ADA accessible. So it's a lot of different variables um that you have to consider. >> Okay, that's good to know. So you basically shift a lot because you guys did decipher
>> based on the reality of our infrastructure right now. Yeah, it's it's shaping up to be really different. You know, I have said before I don't necessarily think that we want to be encouraging people to park the highway garage. You know, I'm
thinking worst case scenario, I've got baby in one hand and my 5-year-old goes running into the garage or around equipment and I don't think we want to I don't think we want to touch that. Um, but if you want to do EV, we will have
to get creative what we've got to work with. Well, one thing, if we did have parking there, we'd probably have to have I I don't know if you know about the lights like in East Hampton or at Ammerst College is some lights that a a person using a crosswalk cross hits the button
and these lights flash and so forth. So, I think we'd probably have to have at a bare minimum, we'd have to have some kind of crosswalk that had some kind of protection for the walkers. >> No, I love those crosswalks. Would that be something? I guess we could look for
grants, but would that be something that the library would have to log in not? >> Yeah, that >> Yeah. I mean, it's a it's just a complicated situation basically as far as I can tell. >> Really is complicated.
So, I think we just have to sort of keep pushing on it and see what see what see what's possible basically. Um, that's that's my view anyway. Um, I wouldn't give up on this project yet, but I would
say that there are impediments. Let's just put it that way. >> So, to be continued. Yes, that's I think I think that's the bottom line is to be continued. >> And what's the meeting on Thursday? >> The meeting on Thursday is just to go
over just to meet with Dave and Maryanne and just sort of look at the uh the the possibility of moving the driveway. So this um of of from the of the uh highway garage so that it has more sight line
better sight lines. Um, and just sort of just to talk about all the different possibilities here. I mean, you know, yeah, I I understand there's evident there's a what's the word? There's push back on the idea of having parking there at the at the garage. Um,
I guess we'll have to decide whether or not that's how how serious that is basically. >> Yeah. And will you be at that meeting >> Thursday? Yes. So you're there. Eric, myself, Dave, Marian, and maybe Craig.
>> You can't there. >> Anyone's welcome. It's not, you know, we're just >> It's not opposed to Slimboard meeting though. That's okay. I have I have another meeting on Thursday that I I wasn't looking to go to another meeting. I was just curious. >> Eric, I just encourage everyone to
remember that it is a work zone and there's big heavy machinery working around there and do we want to take that risk on? >> That's right. you know, and um we aren't going to ask the fire chief to park in Moram his building because of vehicles.
Um we just be wanting conscious of what Dave thinks the machines need for run. >> Yeah. No, I know it's Yeah. As I say, it's it's complicated. >> It's his workspace in his department. So, >> right. But I think like Eric was saying,
it's, you know, it sounds so great and there are companies out there who will pay for it, but then when you get down to brass tax, it's like, oh, I didn't think of that or now I have to consider this option. >> That's it. And just I mean, we because we debated this for a while. I mean, one
of the things was only to prove the zero emission vehicle. The idea was if we're going to do that then even though we don't have vehicles now that we reduce infrastructure but it's it does get complicated in reality
right I mean that may be an argument in favor of of putting uh the charges up at the town hall and just say hey so at some point we'll have vehicles that have to be charged that's one possibility um I think we should look at all the
possibilities There's still all the the thing is too, it's like it's just the whole notion of who's actually going to be using these chargers. If you're a a resident of Shootsbury and you have an electric car, you most likely have an electric charger at home. Um, they
aren't that expensive. They're like a,000 bucks, 1,500 bucks or whatever. They're not they're not crazy crazy money. And if you're going to spend the money and have an electric car, you probably have a charger. So, who's actually going to be charging their car
at the library? I mean, I don't know. That's a question. >> That's a good question. >> Yeah, that's true. Because it's not like someone's going to come dry, >> right? >> Yeah. It's it's it's a funny it's just a
funny deal. The whole thing. >> The next phase. And I don't see Leslie uh is the test exemption percentage Leslie print out. >> Yes. Yes. >> Do we have a time designated? I don't
believe so. >> Um Leslie said when we got to her agenda item that they're upstairs and to let her know. Um >> I don't have her number personally. You and your children's fall upstairs.
You're so old. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Do you want to see you can quickly do Joan Hans? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That should be >> that's just that's just the >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> She's going to help um input our data
into the MS Energy Insight so that then I can generate the report which is a huge help. So I think she's done it before. >> Okay. >> It just needs the chair signature. >> Sorry. We want to sign it. That's
so in that case, do I hear a uh motion to authorize uh Joansen to um allow access to shoe spray of data and features in the map of energy
resources mass energy insight energy reporting system. >> So moved. Okay. >> Second. Um all those in favor I >> stuck IP7. >> Okay. facility.
>> So yeah, we're brought to you by >> Okay, >> reviewing sign me a garden ever. Go for it. Thank you. >> So she spray
have the distinct honor. >> Sure. >> Have the distinct honor of having two transmission line projects going through our town. So we talked about national grid and you guys signed that letter. >> Yeah.
>> Um so Amber source is the other one and you all seen the letter but um basically it's been public time period goes to the end of November. I think it's November 21st. And so what's really cool is
currently Ellen Select Board signed it. um Belure Town Board has signed it. Amoris Concom signed it and then if if we sign it. So we'll have four towns. Um and then Judy
Eisman who's the chair of the Pelum planning board is quite connected to different towns reaching out to some other towns. then um but I think the so if you if you agree to sign it, we'll send it off sort of me and Haley to talk about the coordination with signatures
and documents. But it's turned out to be a pretty good coordination. I'm pretty impressed. >> So that's part one. I'll tell you about national grade if you want to discuss that ever sourcing at all. >> How do you feel about ever sourcing just
ice cream? Eric Rita question. >> I'm sorry. I lost that. I lost that question. >> Any questions with what um the letter for? >> No, no, I think No, it's pretty self-explanatory. in
>> I um just as a side note I took a walk at Buffam Falls today and um I hadn't been there for a while and posted along the trail was a map showing this is where they're going to
be cutting and so they had a map and then they had um the 278 acres. So somebody put it up there. It was really good because it showed like where you were where you were walking the trails where they were going to be doing all
the >> McCulla who's on the playing board didn't know before this. >> Yeah. >> Who's been the mover and shaker in terms of she made those signs. >> Oh, she did. Yeah. They're really effective, you know, especially you're in such like a, you know, a beautiful
wooded and and there's, you know, it's water. What is it? I'm not sure what what is the water. She also told me she was out walking like three weeks ago and she saw guys right in a cotton and she was like stop and then she covered it and like
>> they were doing preparatory cutting because >> well I thought this was a really good um yeah a really good letter and it's great to get the coordination amongst the the towns.
Haley's very open. >> Uh so I'll make a motion that we execute this um joint letter to MEA to Jennifer Hughes the U deputy MEA director. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor I
>> stalker I >> am I [Laughter] >> so the second part of it. Can you multitask me or should I wait? >> I can multitask but I don't know if you listen [Laughter]
>> and Eric definitely can because he's there >> even so. So the second part is I think you saw some of this in the email but so national grid. So the other main character um they I'm still trying to like some
processes I I understand clearly. This one is confusing. So this is their second draft environmental impact report. So they did first wrote a while ago. This is the second one. Public comment is through December 7th I think it is. I'm writing it down. else. I'll
tell you for sure. >> December 8th. Um, it's going to be officially released on November 7th, although it's out there to be seen. Um what we were thinking and I and I mentioned
Haley is asking them to do a community meeting that all the towns could come to because I think one they're more to come if there's one if they only have to come one and they'll be better because there's more in the bur. >> So um Haley and I came up with two
dates. It seems like either knows that November 17th or 19th and most likely the 19th is looking like the waiter for other people to show up. Um, so if that makes sense to you all, you can I think Haley who's gonna communicate to
national ask them. Um, my gut is we might want to try to do that. But >> yeah, >> so I think you know but if you guys dates
and us reach me out reach out and we can be the way to ask them to come. >> Sounds good. >> Okay, that's the hard that's the hardest part. November 19th. >> Yeah, it's >> it's a Thursday. Yeah.
>> I can figure out tomorrow. Okay, >> we'll be in. You know where to find me. >> I do. >> I don't know if you heard me. I love his furniture. >> Yes, that's great. Well, the tech see the screen and then
>> we can hear each other. You can hear Diane said she was having trouble hearing us, but I don't I don't think anybody else is up. I'm not sure. >> It's you know >> and we should have equipment that we can
maybe use upstairs. >> That would be good. >> Our old equipment. >> Oh >> yeah. So we still have our own TV and new options. >> Yeah. Shout out to our IT department, Brandon. >> So,
thank you very much. I'll email you. Thanks. >> So, we'll go back to we'll see the um assessor come in. So refemption percentage
>> sure [Music] the law that authorizes the hand she already basically allows anybody who got a circuit breaker tax credit in the previous year to apply for real estate
tax exemption for this year. Okay. Um, people who get the circular tax credit are a over 65, have an income of less than $72,000, and have a home worth less than something like $1,100,000.
Um, and in addition to apply for the real for the real estate tax exemption, uh, they need to have assets less than $250,000. What the law requires you to do? Well, the people who receive the exempt sheet
get somewhere between 50 and 200% of whatever they got for the super tax. What we need from you is to decide on that. Okay. And just for reference, uh so this is the third year the laws been in effect. The first year um
we had 17,000 the total number of the total amount of certain regular tax credit that people in the town received was you guys have or not >> I didn't print it.
I saw it in >> what six >> is that? >> Okay. >> Just the third page just these numbers on it. That's true. Yeah, that's good. Okay. >> Anyway, the first year from the total
amount of circuit was $8,000 something%. So that's the amount that they had to pay out a year afterwards last year. Um the state rather tax rate they double it. Okay. And that
in turn double the amount that all that in total the total amount got to 17. So we dropped it to 50%. We dropped this 50% this year the total amount of circulator is 11,000
250 and we're authorized 50% again. Okay, which would mean 56 to 2950. Okay. Um, the reason we're going from 50% is a few. One is that it's consistent and we're not changing things up for people
and the second is we're concerned that the number might go up in future years. We would like to keep it down. So, we're going to we're going to suggest that you authorize 50% Eric or Rita, do we have a question? I
don't. >> Um, yeah, >> you're muted, Eric. >> You're you're still muted. >> I know. >> There you go. Oh, now there you go. >> Just It's hard to hear exactly like when people are talking. Sometimes they aren't talking right to the microphone.
It's a little hard to I'm I agreeing with Diane. It's a little hard to hear. >> Um they're asking rather they're asking us to do the same as we did last year and do 50% of the um circuit break. Thank you.
>> Yeah, that I I got that. That's that's good with me. >> And then just just um I I know you had have outlined it here. Um so what the what is forgiven for those people is
then picked up absorbed by the other t taxpayers >> the resial >> the residential >> right but it sounded um from this it doesn't it it's like a few cents on the tax rate it's
>> it'll be uh at most two cents to it'll add two cents to the resolution tax. >> Right. So, it's it's really >> it comes out to like someone between I think it's $8 reduction, >> right? >> But it's a big deal for the people who receive it. >> Yeah. Sure.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. Um so, I'd like to make a motion that we um that we stick with the 50% um as the town percentage. >> Okay. >> Second. >> All those in favor?
>> Barl I. Stark cry. >> I'm sorry. >> It'll be in your >> And thank you for um for all the material. It's really it's very clear. I mean the the presentation was really clear. So it's it's great that >> Thank you Leslie for that. Yes, Leslie.
Yeah, thank you for putting that together because it really does help. I think you know for um for anybody who asks the stat sheets are so complicated. >> Yeah. Well, they are, but having having something this that explains this so as
well is really um it's really great for us. But then if anybody you know asks >> and and one thing that I aside from that just be forewarned that when it was voted at town meeting three years ago it
was set that it would be revoted every 3 years. So we will be coming back to you with a war if you have dates that you need to buy. It'll be essentially the same we anticipate. >> Okay. Okay. So it's it's this this next town meeting.
>> Yes it is. Okay, great. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Now on to the October. So I will condense this by saying that the original complaints filed sometime around January 17th and that pertain to
our FY26 appointment list. So we um uploaded with the meeting agenda on mind government was a list that had the appointments and the attorney general has said that that's not permissible that we should be including all names into the agenda. So that may, you know,
we may want to think about how we do appointments that's like over a hundred names. Um, you know, we can definitely just cut and paste them all into it or for readability, you might maybe want to stagger them. Um, but in any event, uh, the state has found that we were in
violation and they have issued a charge of $500, um, which I believe we can pay out of our legal funds. Um but it is something certainly um going to work we'll have to pay more attention to but I have that on
my list now. Always make sure I check figure out how to do it. Maybe even get the last item on the agenda. >> Yeah. them in a way that might be easier to read because if we do, you know, maybe if we did it like all the names,
we put the Zoom info up top, you know, if we reorganize how we do it, that's a sequel of the list of names might be okay. or the last item then I think we'd be okay because at that point you know if you were looking for other agenda items already
so I think that that should be >> remedied in the future but we do have the the fine >> um I think a vote is always helpful but I hear a vote to authorize to pay the open meeting violation $500 from our
legal fund So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? Sarah. I >> stuck or I >> that's one done. >> The next one um is more recent. This one
was the date of the violation was at our sorry September 15th meeting um where we did not list an individual party for our executive session reason and that was reason number three. um strategy, collective bargaining and litigation.
And the reason that we did not name an individual was that it was related to personnel or related to personnel and employees do have a right to privacy that we're trying to maintain. Um you know, I've spoken to Donna about this that that's
typically what she recommends for towns do is to not if it's a name. Um but we'll ultimately have to see what the attorney general said back I think that group person if you are comfortable with that
reasoning I have a letter well two letters so that effect so I make a motion that we um execute a letter to the director of the division of open government regarding the open meeting complaint of
September 15, 2025 answering that um complaint. >> Second. >> All those in favor of signing that letter I. It's dark cry. >> So lost. >> So this is a separate.
>> Yeah. So, one of them one of them is the actual like the rationale and then that one is just like a verification that we've sent. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I'll make a motion that we execute the letter to Amanda Alex who's
the complaintant on the um September 15, 2025 open meeting law. >> Second. >> Okay. Um, all those in favor I >> do you think you could come in tomorrow
to sign stuff or do you want Brennan to maybe bring stuff down to you to sign. He can get past the detour. I'm just kidding. >> Oh, I can I can probably get there. >> He can start after.
>> No, but he's sick. >> Oh, we can quarant. >> Yeah, >> we'll see. If I can't If I'm feeling too sick, I won't go obviously, but >> Okay, >> there's a chance of that. >> Yeah, >> as you can hear.
>> Yes. Now, nobody want it through an opening in the door. Wait, wait, wait for your signature. >> Nobody wants to see you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Administrator. >> Um, so I'll start off with the piece of
news. So, we did submit our expression of interest for the MVP grant, MVP one. Um and that was for education, advocacy and collaborative team partnerships with the tackle whale storm water erosion. So
uh we did um we submitted that we just wait to hear back. We will get an interview with the state about our application. Um so hopefully if there's any deficiencies we can address them at that point and bolster our standing. Talk to Jess Jennifer last minute. this
is kind of like a a next step. So, we do the engineering study, then we can do the advocacy and the education. Um, and then hopefully you'll be primed to do some repair work um in and around the dam and I'll give a very brief update on our
police chief search committee. So, we have scheduled first round interviews and we are hoping as a committee to be able to give you a recommendation by late November. Um, and so I wanted to ask how you felt about um, maybe doing
December 9th as second round interviews, assuming it works for candidates. December 9th, what day of the week is tonight? Tuesday. Tuesday. Okay. >> How many How many candidates will we review? We have Will we get a select?
>> Um, we're hoping we have four. So, we're hoping to give I mean, if all four agreed, we may we may send you four, but if you know, but it's would be possible to to try to get down to three, two or three, >> right? Gotcha. Okay.
>> So, that might be our whole meeting that we should. >> Yeah. Um, and so that kind of segus into my next point, which is holidays are coming up. So our very next meeting after this one is scheduled for November
11th. That's Vet Day. >> So we might want to look at different day of the week. >> Traditionally, we don't have the next day on Wednesday. >> I mean, I don't think I have anything.
>> Oh, they're so good. about 12. >> 12. >> Yeah, >> perfect. >> I can put my mind. >> Um, and then also speaking of holidays, I was going to recommend that you you
have a power to bestow additional holidays. And I think that given how tough of a year this is on people, um maybe giving them the day after Thanksgiving and off the whole day um would be a nice gesture.
>> We did that last year. We do have a um tradition. >> So the day after Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve, what is what is Christmas? What is the 25th? >> Thursday. Make sure it's supposed to eat Wednesday
is Thursday. >> Why wouldn't we do the day after Christmas? >> I guess that makes more sense. Yes, >> I think you were right. I didn't actually look at the time. >> We have select board meeting scheduled for the 23rd >> that people want to take. They're on
time on Christmas Eve. That makes sense. >> Yeah. >> So, um well, we should vote we should vote the uh Thanksgiving. So, do I hear a motion to give the town employees the day after Thanksgiving, uh, November
28th, um, an additional holiday day? >> Um, so moved. >> I think that was a second if I read your lips right. Alroc second. Um, all those in favor I
>> stalker I >> me I and then um we were talking about the 26th three. >> Yeah. So do I hear a motion to give uh town employees an additional day on December 26th uh 2025 for holiday.
>> Uh so moved. >> Second. All those in favor I >> stalk or I >> I and then kind of on that topic which I was heading into was we have a meeting on the 23rd of um
>> December >> December. Do we want to move that to the meeting before and not bump up against the holidays in that way? >> Was that idea of finishing? >> Okay. Oh, 16. We want to do the 17th
now. Do I need 70 to do that >> or do we want to do it or do we want to do it at Well, I didn't want to do it after >> 17th is fine. February 8th. >> Um, so December 17th. >> Yeah. That way that way we can move it away
from possibility. >> It's funny because my calendar still has all the old schedule. Yeah. Um, and then what else do I have? So, there is I'm going to forward you all an
email. There's a new bill going through called gain contraction municipal empowerment bill designed to make it easier for kind of small towns with limited staff. Um there's things like relax and set some of the procurement requirements and um more flexibility
around hybrid meetings and remote meetings. Um so I signed off on that letter. I'll forward it to you all if you want to look it over and perhaps sign it. And then so I do have um some update for the fist
dam and I owe one person audience a response. I just didn't get to that today. Um But um so what I can say is one of the things that kind of stood out to me was the emergency nature and I want people
to understand that that just refers to the permitting. It just is a way to describe issuing a permit outside of the season which I think is November through April traffic. So there there are some issues with the dam that are going to require action in
the near future, but the the emergency part is in relation to my permit. Um, so there is there actually we I just got a inspection today on the dam and it shown to be in poor poor quality actual dam.
>> Yeah, the bridge >> the bridge part. So there there's some some wood that is cracking. There's stones that are dislodged. Um, you know, we're seeing water conditions are pretty poor on the opposite side of the dam. and not on the
lease side and flooding property camp. And if we can all remember way back to October 8th, I had mentioned that I sat down with Mark Rivers and Cat
Hilton Dave um myself Dan Keeper and the um the director of the camp. We had invited the Kong but they weren't able to to make it. And so we had talked about, you know, how might we come together and try to strategize and go
forward. And so the fruit of that conversation was that yes, we a trapping permit would be issued by the board of health and following that we would clear out the dam because if you clear out the dam but the beavers are still in the area, they're going to come right back
to it. And then the goal for the town would be to, you know, I don't know if I want to say goal, but the town would work with the Pineberg camp to share costs regarding the maiden, so the destruction of the
dam so that it can't be reset. And so, you know, that was something we definitely talked about when I was very new here. Um, and I'll be honest, I accidentally went and reached out to Pine Brook Camp, but you know, they they are part of the community and um, you
know, and I just wanted to get them to the table. So, we all sat down and they have agreed and I don't have um, I don't have any drafts, but they did agree to do that and I'll just get some language. Um, there might be an opportunity for
people to weigh in on that. So going forward, we should be able to maintain it at or at a reduced cost than what we have been doing. Um, and should be a little easier and there's regular maintenance. There will not be a need to
issue bus traffic permits because it'll be clear. They won't be a habitat for them. It's because the same is that some of the stuff that's always started.
>> Yeah, it's I mean it's definitely a problem. Um actually someone was reached out to today by an individual who has an engineering company and works with some other municipalities and offered to come tour that location with me. There's some great opportunities for fixing callers
that are coming up. So, we may be able to look into that, but there there definitely is work that needs to be done. I wouldn't want to speak on it without Dave >> because it is mostly things within the class.
>> But yeah, but from what I understand, things are just launched, things are sinking, things are that does require attention. So, we're talking fist work. >> Yes. Okay. Yep. That's all I have to say about that for
now. Um, I'm learning so much about beavers and habitat and all that. So, it is evolving all the time. Um, and then I I did want to I did tune in to the historic committee meeting the other night and I did just want to say that
the NNPO reuse committee is open to the public. People are encouraged to attend. I know you're on the committee. um you have public comment period. So just make sure that's there to folks. So the um I
I I wasn't at that meeting. I did hear that there was and and we've gotten a a letter about the um the reuse committee the committee's meeting. The meetings are all posted. Um the committee's
meeting again Thursday morning. This will be the third third meeting. Um unfortunately because of family circumstances I have missed um a couple of the meetings but they've gone ahead very well without me. Um I will be there
on Thursday and um there was a survey that was done of all town employees, town departments and then um boards and committees and um there's been a compilation done of the survey results.
So we'll be um not only and and Brennan is um serving as our kind of staff liaison and um so we'll be talking on Thursday about um the results and then we have on the agenda um kind of more
broadly like doing some sort of if there's some sort of public presentation um uh that we need to do. But I was just making a note to myself that I'm not sure If it makes sense at the next select board meeting or maybe the one after
that we would come and do a report to the um to the select board. I'll just figure out on the timing um when it makes sense for the the reuse uh reuse committee to um to come. But the meetings are held in person um in the
town hall and they are open to anybody who wants to attend to. Um, so come on out. Um, just um when we were talking about the next meeting, I know we had um if we can make a note, we had a request from
the conservation commission about land acquisition by um South South Beth for South Conservation Area. So, if you could put that on the next um agenda and then I I think you know when you say
damn I always of course I'm thinking about you said that oh my goodness >> and I realized it was still a dam. >> Yeah. I love actually our rep was like what are you talking about? Oh yeah we have a dam in town.
>> Oh dam. Um but but we also need to address the issue of access to Lake Wyola death. um because our
um you know the access that we have had it sounds like it's no longer going to be available to us and we need to explore and I and I think we need to have some conversations with Donna about
that. um explore what our options are um because um that dam is is needs work. We now have this grant um to >> to explore um options for
you know design um for that dam. So you got to figure that out. >> Yeah, I was going to mention that today. I don't know. do we want to still try to meet with the property owner? Um, but he did seem, you know, rightly so, they
seem frustrated. You know, it's not just the town, it's recreation there. So, >> yeah. >> Um, and I can totally understand that, but I I admit I haven't seen the site, so I don't know what the opposite side of property looks like. They stand on a snug snug.
>> Yeah. It's just a >> um I Why don't we talk about it because we've had this discussion before. I think, you know, I have some ideas and I think probably what makes sense is um after we have a conversation that you
talk to Don and if you want to, you know, you guys can figure it out. But um and some of it might involve um compensation. So, but um yeah, I think before we go
talk to them, we need to know, you know, what what we what we can and cannot offer and you know, how it might work. So, I'll do that, but I think we should be clear about what the options are.
>> I think that's all I have. I don't think any anything else that we have for the next thing. >> I know um Eric has asked for an update on on the waterline and I didn't get to Donna or I didn't
get back from Donna. I didn't hear back from her. So, okay. Um today I think she was busy. >> That's fine. This is not an emergency. >> No, no, no, no. But let me >> Maybe it's on the list for Donna. >> Yeah, it sounds like the Donna list.
Yeah, I got a list, but I'll follow up with her. Um, >> and I think that was that was it, right? I don't think there was anything else we needed on the next thing anyone can think of. Um, oh, I can
just mention quickly. I am going to ask I had ask AJ for a B transfer for the annual MMA conference. That's the one up in Boston. And last year I went to that and it was the first time I ever gone. I think it was really helpful. Actually, there were some workshops that I really
liked and I found um so I'm going to ask for that. I try to >> So there's nothing in the budget, no line for training or I see. >> So and that will be an ask, you know, it's a tough budget year, but you always got to ask.
>> I think I thought she did too. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Dr. >> So, when is our next meeting to I'm a little confused about our meeting, you know. Doesn't take much to confuse me. >> On the 12th. >> The 12th. Okay.
>> November 12th. Yes. November 12th. >> Wednesday. >> Yes. >> Wednesday. November 12th. >> All right. That's good. >> And somebody will check in with you about the signatures. Yeah.
I can always stop. >> Yeah, it's not hard. >> It's a long way down there. >> It's nice scenic bumpy traffic. >> Any chance four-wheel drive?
>> Okay, I'll make a motion to do >> second. >> Okay, all those in favor I >> stalker I good job guys. Yeah. >> Yeah. Really?