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Tom what did you bring okay that's that that's that I don't know where the time I know it's afternoon I just is 5:32 well we haven't opened yet that's one of the things I had to ask says she can't hear us Kristen can you hear us

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now yes I can we had it on mute because we were trying to figure out the the Tex and okay and and you were you're de blurried now as well I'm not sure what the what was going on there so are we ready we are okay all right I'm going to go ahead and call the select board meeting to order today is Tuesday January 28th 2025 this is a hybrid meeting the select

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board is in the town hall um Eric Stocker Rita farell and Melissa make piece O'Neal along with our interim Town Administrator go Gabe bulker and um one council person um Seer so um we going to start off by reviewing the agenda um first thing we will have um public comment um after that we have to review the um an

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application to um the Franklin Regional Council of governments for the um what's known as DTA which is the district local technical assistance program and um we're looking to use some of the FR assistance for the lake Wild Storm water erosion task force uh second item on the agenda uh we actually had listed originally two two items um one on legislation to create a trust fund we're

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not going to be doing that tonight because the um legislation has just been filed uh but we are going to discuss a response to the Massachusetts Water Resource authorities November 2024 study regarding extension of cin water to host communities of which Hoots is one um then just a quick update on where we are with the administrative assistant job

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posting uh we have two appointments tonight Aon mcir and Mariah Shore to the historical commission um then we will be hearing from the energy committee for discussion of the plan to be submitted for the Community Choice aggregation um after that um a brief discussion on the environmental notification form that we received um for the National Grid transmission lined harder Expansion Project we have a

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revised um Municipal vulnerability program Grant so that's a grant we had received and um there's a Amendment to the um contract um then we just need to talk about a scheduling of a library of a poll hearing for um the easement for National Grid for poll and wiring at 66 leverate Road and what issues there

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might be um in terms of getting that hearing um scheduled Town Administrator updates and uh the last item on the agenda is um we'll be having an executive session for reason number three to discuss strategy with respect to litigation the solar bylaw solar bylaw lawsuit um brought against the town of shsb by pure sky and Co so why don't we go ahead and get

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started with public comment and as usual I'm going to ask if you have a public comment to use the raised hand feature and to try and limit your um comments to a couple of minutes and again a reminder that um we except in extraordinary circumstances we don't have a back and forth during the public comment period if there's some discreet question we can answer

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that it's not really part of public comment you know we sometimes do that but otherwise you know we um cover substantive items in the agenda and we take your public comments under advisement and um and sometimes we are dealing with those issues during the course of the um of the select board meeting so um do we have any public comments this

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evening okay um Jennifer and now I don't always ask people to do this but if you could just um uh say your name and and address that would be great un oh there I go okay hi um I know I'm on the agenda but this is on a different matter this is I'm Jennifer Wallace and I live at 22 Pine Drive in shutesbury and um my comment is to uh you know I have written a few letters

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you guys are aware of my concerns and I'm hoping that you might consider having a wider public hearing not just a not just encouraging the voting and Safety Committee to have a meeting with public comment but that there's a wider public hearing that would allow more back and forth and more discussion on these issues uh compared to just making comments to the committee so that's my

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comment thank you thank you Jenn um other um public comments okay um seeing none um we will will um go ahead and um the first item on the agenda is one Jennifer I think you're familiar with um and that and going to speak to so that is um a uh to

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talk about an application to the Council of governments um for th for the lake wola storm water erosion task force and just for folks who don't know the so the DTA is um assistance that uh the Council of government's staff provides to um two communities and every year the um town

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is asked for uh what they might need assistance with and so we have to fill out a a form and we have the form before us tonight um to then be be signed and I think something um that came up which seemed really appropriate for the dlta was a discussions that the storm water task force has been um having and

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Jennifer um I assume you're here to speak about um what what kinds of needs you have and what the how this um this technical assistance might be um useful to the to the committee hi yes and thank you for um putting this on the agenda so the task force uh met with furog representatives

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in December and we reviewed with them the work that we've been doing around locating drainage systems that connect town roads Lake roads private lands and dumping sediment into the lake they also re reviewed with us some of the finer points of the Watershed based plan which was approved by D um a few months ago so there's a final plan and and their plan has some

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uh three categories of recommendations the one that applies here has to do with uh best management practices which we're calling uh structural interventions so those are bigger scale projects that could uh help to deal with storm water erosion and the discharge into the lake and those uh issues are very complex and at the end of the meeting

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they strongly recommended our task force has a consensus that doing a hydraulic and hydrology study of the sites that they identified most of the sites that they identified would be one of the strong recommendations that we would make um the furog representatives when we asked them if they could offer help to us in identifying funding sources for

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not only a study but for the design and um actual implementation of some of these which all of this has to be recommended to you all first but we wanted to be prepared to provide a thorough recommendation to you in June that would include uh some of these components so they said absolutely they could definitely provide such assistance through this program District local assistance and they suggested that some

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of the things they could help with would be um to create a scope of work with us that would continue to answer questions about what their findings were and what ours were and to help us um isolate potential Pro projects that we might recommend to you as well of as funding sources for those projects uh they could also if we were interested convene a meeting between us

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and some funding sources talk about project ideas and if we were able to do this through the end of June they have funding that would allow assistance for writing Grant proposals and tracking down cost estimates uh that deadline of their I mean you might be more familiar with this process or the sequence than I am uh their funding for providing grant writing

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assistance uh seems to run out in June now whether that renews again for a subsequent year they haven't clarified since our recommendations to you aren't due until June we may be able to have some of those sooner um I don't know how this very important I mean getting assistance for identifying funding getting cost estimates and writing Grant proposals could be really helpful but um that's an open-ended

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thing so their expertise is you know unparalleled and the amount of research that they've done is amazing I mean this report is very thorough and they've been very generous to meet with us once already without any kind of request and uh we got a lot of clarity and a lot of direction from talking to them and also a lot of reality checks so uh they suggested that in addressing you

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today that uh I request that that well this was their suggestion so I can't tell you guys that I'm endorsing this although I am and that is that you would list the task force assistance as your number one priority on this application and you have space apparently to list uh a few other priorities which they recommend that you do list because it gives them a sense of the kind of help that different towns are

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seeking so that's the nutshell and I'm happy to answer any questions um in more detail if you have them Eric question I I do not I would just note that the says here it's due January 31st right oh that's right yeah that y um I I had a question only because they provide all these

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categories so you know under climate change adaptation and resilience which slash energy and environment seemed like the place where this would fit because they have um you know downtown district yeah Hazard mitigation I didn't you know what I didn't see was um you know what you're talking about is you know assistance to the task force I guess we can make up our own

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category I I haven't seen the form so I don't know how we might shoehorn into their form yeah so maybe maybe we just pick one of these and then um I mean obviously they've been talking to you already so they you know they they know this is what we're looking for um so maybe one of the things sorry one of the things that that she mentioned is

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that uh they can help to look at uh projects that would ensure structures can handle flood waters and increasing flooding elsewhere so yeah um the flow and rate of water draining into from a watershed into another water body so I don't know if these categories you know generally would fit into any of their boxes but yeah maybe page seven if you look at page

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seven okay it's um zoning and comprehensive plans okay so I think comprehensive plans is where where we can put it and we can attach we can attach a description of it of what we're looking for Jennifer can you identify who the person was you worked with you said she aou yes so tamson Flanders is the person who has been um uh kind of filling in the blanks for me on

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how uh how they could provide this technal technical assistance the other person who came with her to the meeting that we had in December was Kimberly MC so that those two have been great at that meeting and answering addition questions they've already provided us with some suggestions of other towns that might not be exactly in line with what we're confronted with but close enough and um so yes those

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two the other one um gab on the first page the mapping of flood flood prone areas because they do talk about Watershed based projects and um do you think it should be in there yeah you know I I think because the committee has already been speaking with them you know if we fill out this form if we have a cover you know a cover email that goes in along with this and say that um that

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the committee has been speaking with hson and Kimberly and they suggested excuse me um they suggested that that's what we apply for so we picked to that category for right so so uh I have two suggestions so she did say specifically I'm reading from her note list in the first position as quote technical assistance to Lake wyola storm water erosion task force okay um okay

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that's what we will do um and secondly if you referenced The Watershed based plan um that is the um plan that we are seeking to implement their recommendations so that is an important component too okay um what would be really helpful is if you could um just for for what kind of you

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detailed as the scope of services if you could send us um a a list so that we can just incorporate that into you know I was taking notes but I just want to make sure we have it um accurately and if you send that to us then we can get this into them with the with the and with put that as the as the highest priority wonderful okay and I just send that to the regular select board um email address email yes and then um you want a

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cc to Town Administrator please because I'm gonna have to put this together before Friday yeah yeah yeah oh gosh okay well we really appreciate it we really do think that they're going to um be a tremendous help to us and ultimately to the whole town so thank you very much you're welcome um just so the board um understands I mean we can put in other priorities they want you to do three so this is number one yeah

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um uh so the one other one that I um that I thought might be appropriate we haven't had the discussion typically we would have sent this out to everybody but that didn't happen um but the outdoor recreation and open space planning just because there's been a lot of discussion about um uh Recreation I I

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know it's come up um for CPA funding so that was another one and then the we have the pollinator habitat plan we've done that already and that was the other one you know for me that um uh uh there's nothing that um I had seen around invasive species because that was something else that I think there that there's a lot of

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interest in doing and maybe we could just list it um to see if there's uh because I know that the that the group that was working around invasive species was and and not weed um you know had come before the um Community preservation committee and because it was going to be a a townwide study it wasn't eligible for

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CPA funds but maybe we can kind of fit it in here somewhere um under one of these categories if the other Bo members think that makes sense can you one sec one second um yeah no that's a good idea page that on it no it's not here I'm just saying that that you know maybe beyond the pollinator habitat plan um you know

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if I mean the invasive species covers like a lot of different categories including protecting water supply um and you too because it just digs over River right and storm water stuff so well it does tell you to go to page seven if you don't see what you want in here um go ahead Tom um I just wanted to

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point out that b c has established like they published pollinator film for sheet right and under that rubric are all the other things you're mentioning like invasive species water um protection towards Colony so it's a good I would like they suppli that map already for us I think vocabulary and by advocating for a pollinated plan one that they've already given us we are also um getting an invasive species because that belongs

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under that rubric any yes I think I'd like to look at that because I haven't read that poll plan find and other topics plan right and I think that's the approach now is to capture it all under poller habitat right so where I did they do you recall if they had I think what the group is looking for is like next steps how do we

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initiate something in town to deal with invasive species I think right so they kind of offer how you would do that in pollinator you know habitat or under the right if it's in a pollinator habitat but if it's not in a pollinator because a lot of the a lot of the um the sites that where we have the most invasive species are along the roadside

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so they're not naturally pollinator habitat but um they they begin to encroach upon um you know the side of the road and and for us the big issue with the um with the knotweed is that as soon as you have trucks like scraping along the side of the road they're picking stuff up and then it's it's everywhere so um why don't I work with you on this and I can I'll take a look

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at the pollinator um habitat step we called ourselves a community of that nature the last special meeting I know it's just but um I I just wanted to say I think um you might not need to it's by that the phas basic but it might exist already under the Poss poor right right but yeah even it's even that's the question Community is

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considered like a pollinator for yeah okay so I'll you know I'll do a little bit of checking and then we can make a decision but that was the other one that to me I don't know seems like um it makes sense I don't know how many they get they don't well they do they want three they want three they normally only pick one right so we're going to asct than one as being really important yeah and I think I think you know we can list the other two in yeah I think we should

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because if they find they have extra money they'll do it yeah okay great um so um so I hear a motion then to um apply for the DTA District local technical assistance money for the highest priority being for the technical assistance to the lake wola um task

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force um second outdoor recreation and open space planning and third um uh invasive species Under The Poon habit they move yeah okay um all those in favor signify by saying I make sonal I ster I barl I okay great and um so I can I can check in with you tomorrow gab um okay

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so um the next item on the agenda is um a followup to the um study that was done by the MW which is the Massachusetts Water Resource Authority and um they were um asked by our legislators to look at the potential for um providing water from Cabin to um all of the cabin

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Watershed communities the 12 bin Watershed communities and they did a pretty comprehensive um study um report I think it was Cen bond that they contracted with but um a number of the other of our fellow communities including um Kellum um did quite a bit of of research into the report and uh I spoke with a couple of

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people from pelum who went through some of the issues with uh you know with this study and some of the context is that um the MW had also done studies I think on the North Shore and the Southshore for the same same kind of um evaluation of expanding uh water to those communities

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and I think this this study didn't really look at kind of the unique um that that we're very different from the north sh Boston s um and even within the carbon Watershed communities there's some difference you know we Bel town in loveo actually are part of it and they're quite different from us they you know do have public water but we have a lot of small small towns um Sal petersan

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shutesbury so forth um and um what's what you have is is kind of a um to to address some of the issues with this study and the plan is that you know we just want to tell the Mr MW that they really didn't give us a lot of time to um you know to look at this um they didn't engaged um in any kind of um

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good basis with with the communities and recognize that we're really different from um you know even within our group of 12 but that we're really different from the NorthShore community so I think there was you know to some extent a template that they used with with those communities that really didn't work for for our communities and you know I did take a look at at the numbers you know where were just out of this world uh I think to serve it was millions and

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millions of dollars that they said in they could serve 70 households in the center of shutesbury so you know the likelihood of this happening is pretty uh obscure it's not going to happen in our lifetimes anyway um but what it does set the stage for is legislation that has been filed by um Senator kford um to set up a trust fund and so the first

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step in this process is just saying um you know we have issues with the study you didn't talk about compensation and then what's going to follow um after the legislation is is filed and it begins that you know they begin to go through the review process this is that we'll want to um comment on it because they I think I had mentioned the last or last meeting that um what's in the legislation is a $35 million um

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annual um trust fund for the um for the 12 that the 12 communities could access which would be a tremendous value obviously to um to us so um we wanted to go ahead they're looking for these comments by the end of the month and so this also has a deadline and just wanted to make sure everybody was comfortable with this um I was as drafted yeah I was

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thank you for drafting yeah I was okay um all right so um do I hear a motion to um send a letter to um executive director lasi and members of the MWR a board of directors um outlining our concerns about the Quin Reservoir Watershed um evaluation so

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second um any further discussion when did do the real question do it say this this week okay yeah tomorrow's gonna be a busy day at least this is cut bed on yeah it's done it has to be put on you know I we can do letterhead and send it with as an email right right yeah you just attach it but I like to at least have a a signature on it that I can I can scan the letter in oh okay so I could sign it so like where

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it says um from the town of shoots fa select board like to or to sign it at the end if we put it on letterhead yeah we'll attach it but we'll sign it and scan it in oh okay that way it's a real letter and that not um just an email message yeah yeah okay all right that's great um okay so all those in favor signified by saying I make be Dr I barl

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I um I just had one sort of administrative question so we put our names like tanel shoots very select board should we be listing who the members are the board we'll just do it at B do it at the bottom like you would a regular letter okay you don't have to because the chair signs right representing all of you okay you can it's it's just okay all right good

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thanks and then okay okay great um okay so Administrative Assistant job hosting we're ready to R and roll I believe I sent you just a simple dra of what it look like did you get my edit no i s you may have i' you have to understand I'm inundated no no I didn't want to send an email I I

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did I had a few comments but I forgot to send them to you but so you want I'll do it tomorrow I'll send yeah I Gabe if you want to just TOS them my way I'll put it together okay yeah yeah send it to okay all right what I what I had suggested was putting what the minimal qualifications of the job list and then um adding the website where the job description could be looked up okay um and I think the only other question that I had was who who does the administrative

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assistant work for because it was always written in the job description that they worked for the select board but were supervised by the it's just an awkward it is and that's why when I did the ad I wrote select boardtown administ they really are working for both people right um and so it it is hard it's confusing yeah okay all right so um I

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think before it was a select board secret position right but you know even 20 years ago or before I think it's just kept that but you know we had changed it to admin um assistant so we could change it to the they having them both as we can take it back and clarify it won't stop somebody from being hired right right and we just make sure in the job description right that the changes we want to make to be inclusive of that okay but we just yeah

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we want to get the ad out and for um folks who are listening we are going to be hiring an administrative assistant um for 32 hours a week um and we expect that that person will in the office four or five days a week Monday through Thursday 4 days a week yeah 8:30 to 4:30 right yeah um okay so that I don't think we need to

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vote on that to just go ahead yeah um all right so the next item on the agenda is the appointment of um Aaron mcgurl and Mariah Shore to the historical Commission and I see Mariah is here with us uh anybody from the anybody from the historical commission Henry Henry oh there's Henry yeah hi Henry um are you

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there Henry hello there hello um do you just want to introduce um Mariah I see here but I don't absolutely um I don't see Aon here she said she was going to make it but I don't see her here I don't yeah we uh we had two two folks uh volunteer and we voted them

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in uh they're both interested in the archival project uh you I'm working on the archiving of the Town Hall Holdings and uh this is very much in brief uh actually has quite a bit of experience uh with this kind of

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thing uh Library science kind of background yeah both both are going to be working on this project it's it's going to require a lot of time just to go through all the documents and just uh as as long as we're mentioning that um I got wind that uh that the town may be throwing away a lot of documents and you know there may be some that uh that might have

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historical significance so uh we'd like to be maybe a part of that process if there's anything that might be salvageable might be of interest yeah yeah okay yeah we can we can talk about that at a at a separate time yes some of it is it's um like old checks that no longer need to be safe it's a business there's no historic documents or anything like that

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that's for disposition yeah um okay and Mariah I don't are you there do you want to just introduce yourself hi uh sure hi um I'm Mariah Shaw I live at seven Baker Road um the old baker farm and uh I'm hoping to get a little more involved in the town and um I have been working uh digitizing people's family archives um so that's

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something that's of interest to me and um I was definitely interested in being a part of the archival project um with the historic commission and and seeing how I could be of use great great good thank you any questions for Mariah or Henry no no okay um so why don't we take these um separately uh do I hear a motion to appoint Mariah Shore to the historical commission so moved

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second any discussion all right all those in favor signify by saying I make O'Neal I stuer I and Ferell I and um do I hear a motion to appoint Aaron the to the historical commission so mov second any discussion no all those in favor signify by saying I thank you I I barl

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I okay congratulations um very happy to see some some new phases that's wonderful yeah and you do need to swear in any time before the next meeting all right yes yes to see that town clerk Grace bannett um to get sworn in and get all of your accompanying paperwork thank you very much I'm sorry I have to go I have a sick goat but

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thank you I appreciate it yeah Mariah is a farmer thanks very much for coming this evening um app it so the next I'm on agenda is um a discuss I'm not sure if anybody oh Nate herd is here um discussion with the energy um committee for the Community Choice aggregation plan which um we all

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received a copy of well I started reading I'm like whoa I just started my eyes only drifted to the part where it talked about the select board we do this okay before I start e order is three of us okay um so Nate do you want to go ahead and call eak to oh it's you oh sorry

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sorry you did okay but Nate is the expert I guess I'll just set it up and then Nate if you want to F in the detail but so just well first I'll say colonial power who is our broker sang gag braises she's like the scar student are you g to take care of all this h a question I had tonight so that was just sort of the setup the thing to know about this so

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it's confusing to me it might be confusing to you um I definitely the clarity is important I think for residents but this is a new process so everyone apparently has been complaining for a bunch of years that the dpu which manages this is really slow so so like when you went through it I think it might have been like a year and a half to two and a half years to wait and it got revamped so now it's a few months at Max which is pretty incredible um so this is the first time M so things are

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in flux um but the the deceiving thing is this is a plan that gets submitted to dpu it's not shoot spr's plan and so the thing to think about is what the whole idea of commun chice aggregation is there's the strong likelihood that we would have a plan would save money over National Grid there's another option that would meet reading standards and then we can have you know one or two other options that are different versions of green um those things are

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the products that we would be offering residents and they would sign up for this is not the product so when they say the plan it's not really our plan so basically dpu looks at this identifies like you said we this is who's identified to doing what this is the process everyone agrees to it's an opting kind of thing um all that logistical outline is what they're approving and the way Colonial

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expressed it to us is they want it to be as broad as possible because if dpu approves this plan and then we change something we have to go back and start again so they want to make sure that's it's inclusive of everything so whatever we can come up with is in the bounds of the plan um so that's the setup so n anything you want to point out for that questions um yeah I mean I would mention that colonial power group visited um our

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most recent eak meeting where we had a chance to you know um pepper them with questions and I think that uh I'm not overstepping to say that uh EAC members were uh you know impressed by their presentation um uh and their sort of facility with the the process uh that's that's required to to get um the aggregation approved um maybe just like a couple of other just sort of logistical points um the

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aggregation plan would need to be uh posted to uh the public for a minimum of 30 days um so if the select board approves um uh moving ahead uh we would post it to the eak website uh I I believe we would want to have a hard copy um uh maybe a few that would be made available at at town hall for folks

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um dpu has stressed the importance of including residents who are hard to reach um you know might have limited English proficiency or or just might not check uh you know the EAC website that often uh so if there are sort of additional sort of typical means of communication that the town uses you know we we would also want to look at at those um and then after that 30-day review period the

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select board would have another chance to you know review that feedback and then vote to approve the aggregation plan or not at a future select board meeting and at that point that um sort of 120-day dpu review period uh that that Michael mentioned would would commence um so that's sort of the the bounding of that review process that timer would

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kick off um after the public review and after the select board has had a chance to um to review that feedback you'd have you know more time to dig into uh sort of the technical bits um but yeah I just I wanted to te that because that's that's an important part of the timeline I guess so I think for the select the what we're doing what they're doing tonight is considering approving posting it

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public so that we can start the public posting process then we would come back post commentary to ask to approve it this yes um so it's a good question about how you know always communicating kind of what's going on is is the is the tricky one and reaching populations that um that don't either have computers you

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know that sort of thing because we can do and we could do I suppose a town announce right to say that this is available um the weite K people and but a lot of people don't go to the website on any kind of regular basis you know checking the website so a town announce is a way of getting into people's personal emails saying that this plan is out there there's a 30-day comment period um also leave a copy at the

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library have a copy right you mentioned that their copies at the at the Town Hall I think most people who don't have internet connections are over so you know if make it with Cel aging that might be helpful um would the would the elementary school put a small little thing in there yes I forget the name of it I apologize toown news right is there a

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sinful statement that you can make that there's a canned one already available for us and so one of things Colonials said is they encourage us not to tweak the language because they've already been in conversation with the PPU and it's already been Ved but they did get us language to post on the website so I think we just take that put it in aoun or you know put it in the worktown or something like that well I'm wondering if you can accept the tax bills have already gone out put it in the mailing

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put it in your tax bill as in mailing that it saves all the post utilize that and really it should because it especially for important things like that because they're going to read it yeah and related M right right yeah um but they're out already they're out already have so next but you can do it the next time as well when she does it in uh June and by then we'll have the products

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out it's best to do it when you have the products out because if when they receive their mailing in the mail they think it's junk yeah and they pitch it so we really really have to educate so that they open it up and don't think it's junk um that's the biggest issue you're going to run into is is it's for people sign signing up for people signing up because they'll think some is trying to sell them something fet goes energy comp they don't realize for their benefit yeah

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right and I I suppose if it was on like town of shsb you know that it it should be on the web page I probably won't be here anymore but make sure it's on the front and enter and then mail your sh what I call your shuttings people that don't look at their computers at home see I believe they have a listing the people who mail your newsletters out the co definitely has the idea of who who would would need to be sent directly to okay

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so for purposes of now you just you want the select board to um approve this 30-day review period po so that it can be posted and um um we just need to understand who's doing what so if you look at your document page

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four they catch me if I say something wrong so this organizational structure grid so this is where they outline basically who does what okay so um the municipal representative agent for the Department that would be both Us in the town and then Colonials the consultant the L on with do would just be Colonial and the lers on with

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National Grid the few um folks for ever would be National would be Colonial procurement this would where be we'd be involved as town and Colonial for developing the products um the product determination would be us and that's I think ecac would come up with recommendations and then make recommendations like Bo like approve them okay um I'm not sure what other funding loss is um but we doing it um

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whatever that is um customer enrollment is the utility um so people will call and enroll directly cash Grid customer notifications us and Colonial ongoing program information us and Colonial to be there website website in fact they've got the website already built out for us so that what we would basically do is put a link on our website to them for the information so they're going to what they said is they maintain the website

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with all the information and all we have to do is point to their page which is great um program termination we would decide so we can termin it any time but what they emphasized is with this sitation of the program you don't want to terminate um because then we have to start the process all over again where in the past you could terminate then you could pop back in when you were ready um but we're not there yet because we're not in um and annual reports they do which is great customer services I think

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then with the combination of what we want to do um you know like send people to eight with questions so okay do you have any wisdom to impart other than making sure people understand that this is that's your biggest challenge is making sure that they're aware of it advertise it right it's a good program it's a it's a good progr and good so do you did you have it in orange

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or yeah we did it in Orange um and then once a year they come in with the bid prices that's time sensitive you have to make a quick decision because they come in and you only have a small window to just like oil bids and you pick which one and what your combination is whether you're doing natural oil yeah you could do way wind what kind of combination you're doing yeah so and how much savings were people realizing

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you know quite a bit in the beginning I can remember we had a lot of people go over I don't I have solar so I don't get in electri for the last five years I have not paid any expens in to Electric cost yeah sorry really for what they told us it really depends on pricing of the market fles and then the products because some people might not care about you know the pricing so much

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as the source right I see yep okay um all right so just in terms of doing a um uh Town announce um about this being Ava able is that do we figure out how to do the town we can but I think it's too premature to do a town announce you're going to ask yeah I think just putting this on the website would be okay you think that's

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com okay we don't have to tell people they'll confuse them okay that's when I saying this is not the right there's stuff in here that I had issue with like wait a second we didn't decide that that's missina and it's called as placeholder language but it okay all right good so we won't we don't need to do that I do see um okay no it's done okay Gail did you have a question well I was just wondering if we wanted to use the town announcement to to tell them that it's on the

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website that's sort of what I was thinking about was more that the plan was available or the public comment you can read about it learn about it go to the website like yeah on one hand making it people aware of it makes sense because we're doing a notice but I think we have to be careful about how we explain it so that we don't confuse people and they start reacting to things that are not it isn't what it is they think it might be yeah

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but this is just the aggregation it would be important to let them know it's more boiler plate than this is a bureaucratic process okay yeah got it right yeah that's um okay so do I hear um a motion to move forward with the 30-day review period for the town of shs B's Community Choice power supply program advocation F so moved love

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that three times fast okay any any further discussion I can read you know it's amazing um uh any further discussion all those in favor signified by saying I make pece ey barel so moved thank you one second

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second okay all in favor how I why sh your I sh I okay great thank you thanks for coming and Nate yeah good to that we're moving along yeah okay um the next item on the agenda is um is I wrote we wrote review of environmental notification form for the National Grid transmission line parter

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Expansion Project so this is only a 600 page document yeah so I know you've all read it um so we got notification from um National Grid so this the environmental notification form is a you know a complex um document that's assembled when a um you know company such as

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National Grid is going to be doing um a project that involves uh you know a serious impact to the environment and the project um quite simply is they are clearing in the area around power lines and I I don't recall where it it starts but it's it's a wide s yeah it's it's many many towns are um

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are involved and these are power lines that um go through shuberry and then go on to quite a few other communities and you know in the clearing process there in the process of doing the clearing they will be going through Wetlands they will be um clearing brush they will [Music] be hoping to spray pesticides and herbicides to kill um vation

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vegetation um so it's it's it's pretty significant they you know this is the first step in a in a process that I'm assuming is going to take quite a while um but you know we have you know an initial window here obviously as they go through the through the towns they're going to have to get permitting um and go before local boards that that have any jurisdiction um over

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the work that they're doing so I'm you know this is the first time uh I'm dealing with this as far as I know are this this particular right W is doing so um I'm not sure um what I kind of of what we do but I did see that in the past um that furog actually has done I think there was a Mass Electric enf environmental

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notification one I told was that so this comes through a shoot spray down the bottom right cor the substation is and it'll go across ever Source also that's the one for ever Source has one that's very close also inur we're the only town in all these we're both in so that's the first H which I think I forwarded to you guys yes yeah so we have that one so I I was wondering if um and I don't know who asked them to do

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that I mean is this something that we I think we have it's just till February 13th if I remember correctly there was a a 30-day comment period um do you know if fog is providing comments on this enf I emailed them I I assume they are um I I emailed Jo she said their office is looking into it so I think they'll they'll respond and um I'm pretty sure other towns are as well so

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like I looked at the email I got I looked it through the distribution list and it's I think it's like 13 PBS or something really big between us go west um so I mean what what I came understand is I've never dealt with the is that this is really the town's opportunity to point out things that they want so this is notification free the meepa process and so the meepa process there got to be all this compliance and like there's

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rare species and there's cutting down trees and all this stuff and so I don't but I told I don't think we have to be experts in it I think we just have to be able to say based on what we know and also what we don't know these are our concerns weide this process to identify what's the impact of wetlands what's the impact of pesticides what the impact of forest cutting that kind of stuff I mean the other the other one was not obvious to me this it's actually there's a couple pages in there where they sort of like say it does this it does that in terms of imps it talked

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about roads it only talked about pave roads PR water obviously is not a pav Road they're going to have a ton of hory vehicles on the bottom of PR Corner around the substation so you know and that that part of PR corner like a a car in half with so like that's something we would want to know from Public Safety perspective and also great road maintenance um so I think it's a matter of just coming up with a list and submitting it from you know from the town saying these are things we're concerned about we want information

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about it goes forward I think you know if I get something back from burkot you know I can I can share it with you guys but I think just doing that put puts them I notice that right that we're paying attention and these are good things um G I know you sent uh um something out to the planning board and the Conservation Commission I'm pretty sure saying do you have any comments I did did you hear anything that no I was just looking to see if I saw anything come in that I

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might have missed right we haven't had a meeting at the plan okay yeah um so Michael you maybe you said you contacted who was was it at um berkov that I think I contacted Jessica the player okay um well actually no I included window as well oh okay

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um be nice not to uh reinvent the wheel here and to give Gabe any more to do than she's already doing um so I'm wondering if you would be willing to draft something for the select board and if you you know speak with furog Andor if there are any other um Municipal officials from other communities you know it's always good if

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they hear the same thing from multiple communities I mean just like with the MW stuff you know we're we're working with the 12 um Watershed communities to to get the message back to BMW so I'd be happy to I mean I actually got the email sent to me from Judy e who's the chair of the pl P so I can Che that's what I got from her for the

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MW writing something yeah that would be that would be great and then um so it was the 13th was the deadline and so the select board meets again on the 11th and we could um approve it that night if everybody's yeah I'm just good with that yeah that work yeah cool um okay there what what at what point do our conservation Comm they get

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to weigh in well I'm actually not sure if the local boards get because of the me process yeah there's I yeah there's a I looked there's a page towards the beginning of the document and process Massachusetts Environmental Protection so you have to Massachusetts yeah and okay so the thing one of these pages that said the permitting process

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that they had to go through yeah and there's like gilan State let see if I can find it really quickly I can't but there's a gazillion here we go P you um [Music] [Music]

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so between two and four what only yeah anyway I saw a whole bunch of state agencies have to prove like dpu has to approve it but how did you not have to I I thought that there big enough so like if you think about the clean energy law that just passed yeah

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you know that's new the way they did it is there's small energy and big energy so this is transmission wise so it's under the pury probably of dpu and then you know DP D probably gets involved w DC gets involved because of forest so it's like all the state folks but even if we had more rigorous regulations than the D which we do in our Wetlands I could be wrong I just stand I thought I remember there being discussion when

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this was first mentioned yeah that they were going to be coming but I could I that could be mixing up with the eversource one too that you know maybe there did not memorize the 602 pages so no yeah I tried need to really memorize page three okay well we'll find out more right I will be happy to draft something you know I'll send it to Gabe in advance

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great we can let read yeah yeah that would be great and then we'll put that on the agenda for the 11th um thank you yeah February okay um good thank you um Michael and stick around um more to come with you um so the next item on the agenda is to review and uh

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sign the revised U Municipal vulnerability program Grant and I see elain poo here who um is going to tell us about um um what is changing and just quickly the MVP grant that we received um from the state um uh initially was covering um solar installation panels on

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the library roof and um at their encouragement we applied for a um backup uh which would have been a a truck for the highway department we use that as the battery back up and for a whole variety of reasons that did not make any sense um but we had been encouraged by um B MVP folks so subsequent conversations have happened with the staff that has resulted in um a

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change to that plan and Elaine if you want to just give us a rundown on what we're looking at here okay well basically thank you for uh thinking of this and um what we're doing is originally they did have a Ford Lightning truck was the backup um gener for our solar system which didn't seem

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feasible and it was not going to do what we needed it to do and so we have revised the project and we are going to have um a battery backup it's uh it's in design stage it has been designed and we have gotten the initial design phase and we have been in touch with the MVP folks and they would like you to sign off on this revised Grant

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proposal and they agree to it that it will be a battery backup uh we will still need a rollup generator because this is only going to back up for approximately 8 hours uh battery storage we we don't have enough capacity to to back up any more than 8 hours but it was enough to get a rollup generator to be

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able to come up and um do backup for the the library and so they're waiting for your sign off on it and they will approve it H she says confidently El you said roll up generator does that what does that entail after the eight hours roll up um we're we're going to have both we're going to have the battery backup for the

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solar um battery backup and then obviously um that's only going to work for eight hours and so we're going to have a rollup generator pad available and so we would um depending on what the storm is and depending on you know how much how long the outage is going to be we would want to roll up generator for uh any further

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uh power outage I was just curious so more of a traditional um traditional gener yeah yeah we we we will not have a generator on site um we'll have to you know it it's it's one of of those things that you know maybe we'll need it someday but let's hope we don't but we'll have the capacity and we'll have the all the infrastructure available to uh to provide for it if we need it but the MVP Grant will not cover um a

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generator gotta thank you just for clarification that will We Will We the town own such a generator or will we just no no we we would rent it rent it okay yeah um so elain um I know that they had that 10% match requirement so is that met with the library yes yes the funds

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we okay yes um and in terms of the um the battery backup um they pay for the housing of the of the battery it does not need housing okay nope it sits outside all by itself there's three it's three components uh We've designed the batteries and the pad and we haven't uh

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priced it out yet because we want to make sure that we have the Grant in hand and you're the next step of um signing off on this amendment send in it to MVP and then having them sign off on it and then we're going to cost out um it's really just the pad that we're we're not costing out yet because we had originally had a a smaller pad and now

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we're going to have to increase it to it it's three large batteries but they stand alone outside um they are weather resistant supposedly I'm told and so there 's no issue with um with fire just because it's come up obviously with um you know we've been talking about um solar and uh we had a battery bylaw

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um no it's all within the the confines of uh what we already have um in our Solar bylaws I have good news oh okay Michael talked to marann about like a month ago oh okay so the battery they're going to get it's a lithium iron phosphate battery oh which is the one that is more stable and less have so always a chance but the likelihood is much lower oh okay

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good great good thanks just you know want to make sure um okay I thought initially too there was a was a problem with the design of the library where there wasn't any place to put the pad that I just making that in my headers you are just making that up in your head we have the place we have it designed I like that so um we're getting an additional

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$57,000 is that that correct for this that's okay yeah um the new amount is 270 the new Grant amount is $279,600 okay so um any other questions um all right so do I hear a motion um to approve the execution of the um standard contract form between

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the town of shutesbury and the executive office of energy and environmental Affairs for the um uh Amendment contract Amendment for the municip vulnerability program so move second okay sorry look got a frog in my um okay any further discussion all those in favor signified

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by say I thank you I barl I and elain do you know if um we submit this elect like how do we submit this I'll I'll send it to them tomorrow thank thank you so much they're waiting for it Contra Side Y the left side bottom the states on the other side okay

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is the 28th it is there's only one you only need there's only one but I copies okay um okay thanks elain

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sure thank you know we have more from you um so the next item on the agenda is to we have had a um request from National grid for um to have a poll hearing and which would include just um approval of uh the um installation of poles again we're

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talking about the um lot 032 66 lever Road library site and National Grid um needs our approval needs the select board to approve um polls and wiring at 66 lever but also an easement because the some of the wiring is um will be going um under lever Road no no it will not be going under lever Road it's going

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over Leverett Road okay okay good we are not we we we that's why we're having a pole hearing because we want to put a pole up near the entrance to the library it will go across the street from the pole that is across the street from the library site and then it will go underground from that pole to the library so it will not go under the

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street no no no no no underground once it hits the once it's at the poll at the library site okay and can do right okay good I was however Donna had a problem with that paragraph in the easement future yes and so she wanted to make sure that in the future we could put

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culverts in or if we had drainage problems she said we had to talk to the highway department there is there you can put CTS in you could put I mean the poll is going to be on the library site it is going to be off the road it's going to be on the library site and from the poll we will be going underground we are not going underground anywhere near where the town would be doing culverts

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or any of those um digging or anything and how I Gail Huntress did echo in by sending an email yep about the um broadband and and Broad Broadband is never in the same conduit what they are going to do is they're going to have a duct bank and the duct bank will have both the electrical and the Broadband

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but they will be in their own conduits they will not be touching each other or in the same conduit they will be in the same um ditch is what I call it I mean the where they're going to dig the the trench and but they are going to be in separate conduits they going into the into the library site into the library site and so and um along the way we are going to

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have there's I forget what the technical terms are but there are stations along the way because it's a long driveway where they can get into the conduit if necessary okay so they can access it yes um so we um we have to schedule um a hearing it has to be published and then we have to notify the abutters and

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[Music] um so seven days be at least before the hearing right um and I know something that just you know as kind of an aside something that came up was um uh Grace mentioned that we have a very low fee for um that that we charge we can now charge higher fees to to cover our actual cost because we accepted some

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section of the general laws that that allows us to um use cameras like 22f or something like that and um so I just want to talk about that for a couple of minutes after but um the first the first part of this process is then doing an ad we yeah she has to do I'm think it's the town clerk that do be add I'm not sure I don't speak for her um so we have to do an ad

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and I think her concern is covering the cost did she I I sent her an email back today just said what is the cost she emailed me I was told that the cost was $40s we usually don't collect so that confused me so um that was what we were charging them but ads are much more expensive than that I thought legal ads are right so that's what I was trying to say like what do legal ads cost it could be a couple hundred that's what I

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thought yeah so I'm wondering if we don't want to um just uh why would we go I don't know and we have to National Grid needs to be build for it right Bill they're asking me for a bill and I I couldn't give them a bill I don't have any history of US billing them so so we just make something I'll make a bill I'll make an invoice up on our letterhead but can we could we set the

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fee tonight at $200 I think we could that's that's I was high 500 do I hear don't worry it's gri we're all paying for it then they'll never come and do this they will don't worry um yeah I mean maybe we just set it at $200 and

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assumed that I I know legal ads are expensive do you have any experience with yes obituaries and they're extremely expensive so they're by word I think legal ads are you know so you know depending on what paper you put a obituary and it could be $500 right um that's not so do we feel comfortable setting just setting it at $200 for uh for the fee for the PO hearing can you do 200 or the exact amount of posting of

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the advertisement yeah can we do that but we won't know until right so you could say they want to bill now do they want you said they want yeah they want a bill so why don't we just say set it at $200 and then we can adjust it next time yeah sure yeah they can wait we could give it we do it more too then do this a a deposit of $200 balance

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depends on the amount of the ad in the paper or something that nature so you at least with Cal cost right right okay why don't my point so you know $200 if if it's over we will build the balance after posting okay so do I hear a motion to um charge $200 for um both y for permit

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for all here don't we want to put the rest that yeah a $200 pre of posting no I think we uh and then and then if if it's more we'll okay build balance okay after you could I mean you could just say the the the posting cost but they want they want to bill now your deposit okay yeah there you go deposit

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we could what start your thing over I'll finish it go ahead okay so do you want me to yep start the first and I'll take the rest the last half of okay so do I hear a motion to um charge uh $200 for um whole hearing with with with um the B with if

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if the ad is over 200 balance to be build after posting $200 to cover the cost of advertising okay yeah then it's the toward the balance to be built after posting I think we should get back the full amount okay all right so um never been business it would didn't mind getting fill a

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later the electric come on but they're paying anyway insic um all right so significant do we think that we can do this whole hearing at the next select board meeting we have enough time to how how long does the advertising have to go on seven days it has to be advertized for seven days

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that' be post it would have in the paper by the four we have two weeks from now it's really close this week is shot with my time because I'm already over done it would have to be posted by the four it be seven days or the third of February okay so next Monday so we could have a schedule meeting after that right you could schedule a SCH board meeting on the 18th it's not in your normal cycle but

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don't put any other business on just app full hearing I won't be here but yeah that's fine with me or or just make it the next regular select board meeting well this is too late well you're is there a a time constraint here elain always there's always a time constraint I mean we're the clock is ticking but I mean i' I'd rather have it sooner rather than later yeah okay if you could have

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it on the 18th and just just have a poll hearing yep okay that's fine that's that's it works you Melissa yeah okay all right and that that takes some of the pressure off of you gave so do you notify National Grid um yes we will notify them okay please notify National grps Jennifer of the

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hearing date and time okay um do we have sample ads or you think one I've never done yeah I think we had to I think we had to do them down at like wola didn't we when we put in that that new poll that's right it's interest I've always had national g bring me every here's your ad here's so this is the first time I've ever heard that I've had to do all of this so I

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find that interesting yeah um okay um um I I hate to ask this but did you grant the easement did you approve the easement the easement is part of the PO of the hearing as far as I have to be granted at town meeting what or can the SLB Grant done it Grant where was

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it that's I was confused about whether the easement was separate from the poll hearing but that we granted an ement for CO's to put a truck or or Landing going into the woods yeah yeah um so that was we did that in the SL wooden so you probably want to put the easement I did not ask on I

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asked Don if she'd seen it because I was trying to get the history on the easement to see if it had been approved and she had never seen it which is why she came up with her questions the last e i remember was that e the oh yeah we did it that was a long you did I believe we did it didn't we didn't we Grant the easement for the highway department and but that was I mean it was AV right so do you want me to put the easement granting on the February 11th was actually at a town meeting is a town

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meeting we did that no that was the the sou oh that was it okay that's right um I'm confused about where the easement language is I see the map and it's exhibit a and where is it I thought it was within this within the um it was sent separately to me by Elaine didn't you send it elain I can

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look I did yeah because here it says um they're asking for permission to um erect and maintain poles and wires also for permission to lay and maintain underground laterals cables and wires in the above or intersecting public ways

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for the purpose of making connections with such poles and buildings um but that doesn't mention E I thought it thought that was going to for the

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easen um I think it's part of it Elaine so I we're not going to do it tonight so we just need to verify if it's done separately or it's done as part of this um as part of the vote on the polls um so let's real double check with um Donna and maybe if I can read this again I I thought I recalled seeing something around the the easement that

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was incorporated in here but I could be imagining it I'll take a closer little well there is something it doesn't say the word easement but there's just something that the last paragraph before where National Goods signed it that does talk about the reserve space for one cross arm which isle but it doesn't really say it says your partitioner agrees to reserve space for one cross arm at a suitable point on

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each of the said polls but it doesn't really talk about just the space Oh here it is um also for permission to lay and maintain Underground lals cables and wires and the above are intersecting public ways for the purpose of making connections with such poles and buildings as each of said petitioners may desire for Distributing purposes doesn't it say underground though to underground also

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yeah it will be underground so they need the easement on the library site so that's where it's underground from the pole into the actual building so that's so that's where it is um the other thing i' want in that very last paragraph whether not we should also put internet I mean should we just change that just like telephone signal the very last paragraph uh where am I no right here your partition reserve

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space reading that read that before oh yeah that sentence does not for example have an internet in there we can just put internet yeah yeah if we're going to sign something it seems and have communication the right space yeah communication um rather communication okay so I think that in case it ever changes to the

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um the uh easement is part of the granting of the of the poll because it it's here and then it says I hereby certify that the foregoing order was adopted at a meting of the select Board of the town of sh yes okay so we should be good um so the 8 there be a special meeting on the 18th and it will be a s o'clock meeting or what

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time it the 18th can't be because the fincom meets at 6:30 so 5:30 yeah 5 30 I just I want to let people know yeah so 5:30 on the 18th thank you so much okay we move forward thanks elain yep thank

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you okay so moving right along Town Administrator updates we oh I goed because I told you about the minutes 12 10 and is it 11:26 26 but I didn't put it on the agenda so can it go under me or does it let's let's I'd rather just put it on the next next

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agenda yeah okay I just got them so I sent them out yeah we're catching up which is a good thing yeah well I don't know if we've gone back to July um so the highway is working on the interrupt you for one moment we have a person coming in from the waiting room it only has an A on the guest and we'll

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let them in and ask them to identif that that was immediately hi can the person who just entered with a as their name please identify yourself

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thank you um so Gil hunter sent us a request for us for us to ask the board to disband the Broadband committee yeah do you want me to put that on agenda okay so I'll put it on the uh February 11th 11th yeah um I am getting a ton of emails uh

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from people who want to discuss the lake wola bylaws um what do you want me to do with them all should I be sending them to you to review publicly or you reading them I think those I and I've been looking at not not all of them but I think they're really directed towards the um the lake wola voting and Safety Committee so the committee is meeting I think tomorrow night tomorrow night um and uh I think I

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think our response um is we're not we're not responding to those because they're basically saying don't change the bylaws um but I think what um Jennifer Wallace mentioned this evening that we should discuss is whether or not we want to have um any kind of uh a you know a more

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CommunityWide discussion you know the committee isn't really set up to have um to have a CommunityWide discussion so what's happening right now is people who don't want to see the bylaws changed um are you know were responding to an email that was sent out to say tell the committee you don't want the bylaws change and we're we're just getting copies of it I think this this

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Board needs to decide whether we want to go beyond that and you know as the committee either as the committee or we could do it ourselves to have any kind of could wait for the committee's report I don't know what the timing is um and then have a a more you know yeah a a public discussion that's either jointly done with the select board or the select board does it if the committee doesn't want to do it um so

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that needs to be discussed but we don't that we're not going to decide tonight okay I just wanted to bring it up though I knew how I how I should deal with all of it um what I've done just so you know Gabe is we've had another couple of things like that where I cataloged everything in in an Excel sheet we use that as as a reference point for something so if we decide to I can do that with you okay I was GNA say no no no it wasn't for you no no no no it was

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something from my past that I did for my yeah okay so that was I beginning to concern you because it's been going on since I've been here but it seems to be accelerating and there's a lot well there was what happened was there was an email sent out from um I think from the Lake wola Association asking people to weigh in and so as a result of that all these emails got generated they're good you know there's a lot of good ones in

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there so I just yeah but I have been reading them yeah so I just want to update you on what I'm working on because I think it's important a lot of people are beginning to come to me with things that need to be done and I'm creating a for the next ta folder because there's absolutely no way I can keep up with all the requests that are coming through in the emails and I really have to pick and choose I feel bad about it because there are things

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that need to be responded to but it is just overwhelming on the schedule I on yeah um and I I literally can't give more time so so you know what I'm going to start working on the fincom has asked me to put the budget together and start plugging numbers which means revenues and all of that that's going to take up that time that you have me here for so the other things that keep things rolling are going to have to be put on

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the back burner because I can't stretch myself so thin that that I'm doing that um setting up the agenda every week is tough especially once you don't have an admin so I know we're working on that we're try to get that out I would hope if we get a couple of applications that we go ahead and interview um that's just I'm just telling you my concerns about that I'm telling you that my next few weeks are going to be budget occupied yeah um so we could do that I mean like I figured out the you work I I

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did figure out finally like how to do the agenda but I don't see why we couldn't take that over as long as we had agreement I mean right now it's something you can do um under open meeting law you can talk about the agenda so it's Health keeping so um for example is whoever's leading the meeting I know we've done in the past like I've been sending you the list right but everybody Melissa could put the email out and say

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gabita do you have any items and and you just do it um or I I do it but you're going to you're going to have the next couple of meetings so then I'm gone that's right so okay yeah it just will give me some relief yes um because now that I'm having to do bills and all the mail stuff again is there something weak can up here yeah so Gail has our accountant has offered to run the bills um in the next couple of weeks to keep up with those I still have to open them and go

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through them and see what they are I do need to see that so my day the first thing I do when I come in is the bills um so I have been putting off reading emails till later in the day because they're are so many of them and um and then I go through and pick the ones that have important like deadlines um arpa not arpa there's an arpa report that's going to be due soon I am bringing someone in who's going to do the annual

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report oh good so right he I'm meeting with them tomorrow so the the big thing is to get some of this stuff that is mandatory like report right on its own train track so that it's going um but those I just wanted to tell you there is a struggle there um with the hours and the quantity um and it e and flows it didn't it started to slow down and then it was like should well I mean like way all this

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stuff is an example of something you don't need to you don't need to worry about Thea will Hammer that out tomorrow and get it out yeah and I can help them that yeah and Jennifer sent me a really good review to put in there so that's good but I just want people to know that I can't and I am starting to do future um down administrative things that need to get policies stuff like that that people are looking for yeah um so that was it yeah good thank you thanks Gabe

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you've done a tremendous job' been wonderful having you here so um the last item is um the executive session and um uh we are going to um go into executive session um for reason number three to discuss strategy with respect to litigation namely the

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solar bylaw lawsuit brought against the town of shb by pure sky and holes um an open meeting may have a detrimental effect on the litigating position of the town and so I have declared that we are having executive session um I want to uh first have a vote to invite Michael DEA to um join us during the executive session um thank you Tom uh so do I hear a motion to include um Michael deare in

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the executive session move second all those in favor signify by saying I make I barl I um so uh got through the purpose um we will have a majority vote and recorded roll call um to go into executive session and um we will not be returning to um public

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session um after the executive session um okay so all those in favor of going into executive session oh and Gabe also is joining us just figured your all those in favor signify by saying I make peace on I stalker I farell I okay we are in executive session