Wait a half minute. It's 3:4. It's 4:00. Hi Lesie. Bye Brandon. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I would call the Shbury study board meeting for November 25th, 2025 to
order. Um, our agenda tonight this afternoon consists of approving the minutes from November 12. Uh, review and accept the resignation of Aaron McLu from the historical commission. Um,
review and accept the town announcement policy. Uh, update amendment. Review and sign mass DP grant scope of work contract. Review and discuss Lake Hyola stormwater
charge and membership composition. Uh, the Haley Walton will update us on the lease search committee um and recommend the next steps to us. Um followup discussion on wellwater access shoes.
Um meeting with Senator Joe Commerford and energy climate action committees um to submit final version of decarbonization road mapap for select board review and acknowledgement and then the town administrator report
that work for everyone. Does anyone want to have anything that's popped up in the last 48 hours that we need to hand? >> All right. So, let's move on to the public's comment. Um, if you're on flying, please use the hand raised hand
feature and also use the raise hand feature for those of anyone have a public comment. >> I do. Yes. I can't find the hand thing. >> That's okay. And raise your hand. Okay,
>> hand in hand. >> Okay, this is the beaver traps again. The beaver traps are still in there under the bridge. The water is flowing through there. Um
the permit was expired on 113. the um the Kona bear traps. I don't know if you know what they are, but they are illegal in many states. And the reason
why is because they can really cause a lot of suffering for a lot of different animals. Mink can get in there. Otter can get in there. There
are many other animals that use the same route and um what I read said that it was illegal in California, Colorado, Florida, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington, and Rhode Island.
And in Massachusetts, it's illegal except to resolve an immediate threat to human health and safety. And I'd like to know where the immediate threat is. Um, since the water's now flowing through
and we never had a problem with this before because the old people that did the roads for Shootsberry always kept that cleared out when it was necessary. And the and with it now flowing, it
seems to me they should get that trap out of there. And um the roads crews should now start to make sure that the bridge is cleared out. Um
and we've always, you know, I've been here for 20 years and we've never needed to trap beaver before. It's it it kills them. It's very painful that it has spikes. The trap has spikes that go into
the animal. hopefully it'll hit the organs right away, but sometimes it won't and then they suffer. So, I just it's very really really upsetting to me. And I I used to see,
you know, in the fall we see otter and beaver that come in and out of the lake and it's delightful and there's nothing now. It's dead in there. So, I just want
to see if you could try to figure out another way to resolve the problem by pulling that all the beaver dam out of there and getting the water flowing through again.
That's it for me. Thank you. >> Thank you, Judith. Normally during public comment we don't um we take the comments and we follow with emails and such. Um and you've asked a lot of good questions so Haley will
check on. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else who has public comment? Um, I'm doing this because I've noticed it's hard to >> like people that are online. Um,
I just wanted to say thanks as always for taking public comment and I have kind of an echo for what we just heard. Um, and so I hope it's okay that you're going to hear repeat that you just heard. But I think I'm making up mostly
on behalf of creatures that can't tell us things like the beavers and possibly other creatures like the otter musats would make. Um and that is to stop the trapping. Uh the con bear trap is more
or less immediately lethal. It can take time and be a suffering death for the animal. But even the cage traps end up being the death of the animal because those I consulted with some people at fisheries and wildlife um just mean that the animal is taken
off site and then shot to death. So the any trapping is ultimately lethal trapping and it seems as though now or yesterday or a few months ago would have been a great time to attack the dam and work on removing the dam so that the
water could flow. And so I just wish that we could concentrate more on removing the dam and not on killing off the beavers or other wildlife incidentally. Um I wish we had some sort of timeline
or goal so that we could know when the trapping will stop or what will be the sign that we will move into the territory of just concentrating on the dam. It is concerning to me that it appears from observations that I have made today
that the quantum air travel is still in place and that is not allowed without an emergency permit from the board of health. That the only permit I'm aware of expired on November 3rd even though it is now beaver traffic season traffic
is allowed. That type of trap is only ever allowed in season or out of season with an emergency border health department. And there has also been some breaching of the dam. I also got word from the fisheries and wildlife people that any
breach technically requires uh permission from the conservation commission as well and they have not been formally involved with this current action going on. And so there are concerns about processes in terms of the
packet permitting is in place. But I think my greatest concern is just on behalf of the animals and the environment and the safety of the road culver um which would for me dictate just concentrating on removing the dam the
damn material and letting the water fl just Um, acknowledge it's >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Hi, Senator Keller. >> Hi, everybody. Hi. Hi. Thanks for joining our meeting. >> Oh my goodness.
>> Appreciate that. >> Thank you so much for letting me come. Um, I just ducked out of Monty's March and so I I got to a computer on time and I was like, "Okay, I'm good. I'm good. I can talk with the great folks in Judberry." So, thank you.
>> Great. Thank you so much for coming. Um, we do have a little bit of a a meeting going on. Um, and so we have a few things we'd like to talk to you about at some point during the meeting. Uh, so if you able to stay for a few minutes, we'd appreciate that.
>> Sure thing. Yeah, I'll I'll speak with you when when um when the agenda comes up. >> Okay. >> All right. Um, so let's move on to approve the minutes for uh November. revolve 2025 minutes. >> So I'll make a motion that we approve
the minutes of November 12th, 2025. >> I'll second that in one time, but teach yourself. >> The uh I believe I think it's the one I think it's a third paragraph. It says overall his major goal is to require a
new grader to help smooth out operations. I think it's smooth out. I don't think it's such a word. It's smooth. >> Mine point. >> Yeah. Okay. >> For sure. Anyway, other than that, that's fine. >> Then all those
>> smooth. >> All those in favor of um observing the minutes amended. Caroline >> start right I >> and since we have um
uh to review and accept the resignation from Aaron McN apologize if I am um murdering that name from the historical commission. >> So um >> make a motion that I accept the
resignation of Aaron McGar historical commission. >> Second. >> Thank you. Um, all those in favor Neil and Brennan, thank you for making the thank you letter and having it ready
for us. Yes, thank you Brennan. Um, the next is to review and accept the announcement town announcement policy um update amendment. and Gail I believe this is orange
says we want we have it in our package I don't know if you have the red line or not is really a technical change to the statement always subject we had said before that um images were not possible within house
but I've since discovered way to do that so the language See the announcement message text can include links and or images but not attachments are not possible. >> Okay.
>> Sounds good. >> All right. Is that it? >> Okay. I'll make a motion that um we amend the town announcement policy as stated. >> Okay. >> All right. All those in favor?
>> Barl I. Thank you. Great question. >> Um and the next is review and sign a mass grant scope of work contracts. So, um, big thank you to Maril Mandal,
our recycling coordinator, who she really did all the leg work on this, but I got the letter that said, "Congratulate us." So, it's like Jake. >> Yes. >> Um, so Mass D awarded us about $3,700
um for our recycling program. Uh, that helps to fund the bags, helps to fund transfer of materials. Um, it's pretty straightforward. I've talked to Mel um you know she'll be the one monitoring the grant and you know submitting any
reporting and she really just needs the select board to sign off and my understanding is that this is a fairly routine grant that we've gotten in the past. So >> just requires the chair signature so I will pass that to you. So I will make a
clear that we execute the mass DP um grant scope of work contract. >> Sir any further questions or discussion?
>> All those in favor I >> has been involved. asks to have the name printed to the challenge. wasting the time here. >> All right. So, the next item we have is
to review and discuss legal storm water chart and membership competition. water. Um, >> yes. >> So, I just had one question about this. When we had um my recollection is that
we had gotten the um report back from the um storm water erosion committee. We talked about whether or not it made sense to expand beyond the confines of just Lake
Wyola to look at storm water. And did we did we decide that we would focus on Lake Wyola first with this committee? I just don't I don't recall what we do, you know, because storm water issues are
talentwide and um I guess I just want to make sure that um we're thinking that that this I mean if if we if we keep this just as focused on Lake Wyola
that we make sure that we provide at some point to perhaps yeah widen the widen the charge of the committee you know beyond >> so do we want to do it for Lake Wyola
and Greater Shesbury >> I don't I I don't know because right now I mean most of the work we have a lot of yeah we have a lot of background now for Lake Wyola so we have >> we have multiple grants we have multiple grants so there's a lot I mean I I don't
want to dilute and confuse lose their mission by saying and you have to look at the rest of the town. But I guess >> we could we could have this just as you know a phase one storm water body and then phase two will be once
>> yeah I I guess what I'd like for them to you know think about or and I don't know if it gets incorporated here or that we just have it in our heads that we would you know that we would have another
um face as you say I have to say that we think about storm water that we you know we had the le you know lessons learned because I think we learned a lot from from this and um and storm water as we all know
>> is is really frankly actually applies to the same >> right right it's just that we have the we have the grant we have all the you know the background work so >> um I'm going to call you first issues >> sure
>> okay Jennifer Um, hi everybody. I remember from the meeting that that the discussion was to do a townwide storm water erosion uh group or
committee. Uh I remember especially I think it was Rita said we have a lot of storm water issues in town. >> At least I'm consistent. Right. >> Yeah. Right. So somewhere even though you know I haven't discussed any of this with y'all
or with Haley or anything in the back of my mind I thought it kind of could make sense whatever the composition of the committee is that there are subsets of that committee that would focus on different parts of town. So all
that work could go on simultaneously compared to phases which then kind of might not be as responsive to different things that come up in different places. So that was just one model but uh
but I agree that whether it wants to be in phases or it wants to somehow the committee be organized so that different parts of it are focused on different parts of town. Um, I just wanted to to
contribute that perspective. Thanks. >> Well, I feel like we're repeating a conversation from a few months ago that none of us remember. >> Yeah. Um, so speaking from a decad perspective, I would definitely say, you know, that having town storm water focus
makes sense because it is climate related for sure. Um, and I think the only thing I would say is if we do that, um, thinking about what the composition is, I don't I'm not sure the composition is now, but we might want to have an eag person on there. But I know for the MVP
and the hazard mitigation in both of those events there's still more to management which is you can't charge nothing we want to do more work but the climate perspective makes sense. >> Yeah. Yeah. So and and what if what if um it was called the Shootsbury storm
water mitigation implementation committee and maybe the first first focus is on Lake Oyola because we have >> well because we have so much work and
it's not heavily weighted >> more timesensitive. >> It's more time sensitive. Right. Exactly. Because we have the grant. Does that make sense, Jennifer? I mean, you worked on that. >> Yeah, sure. That that definitely makes
sense. And that was my own kind of personal concern of wanting to be on this new committee was that the work that we did on Lake Wyola wouldn't get diluted. And you know, I I have a lot of um kind of attachment to that work at
Lake Wyola. And while we have Senator Cmerford here, can I just say thank you so much for the support that you gave to our application for the rural development fund. We really appreciate that. >> So yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
>> Yeah, I'm just going to say more of the same. I was at the meeting where it was discussed about doing this new committee by as well and I already watched the video um to confirm was that it would be a town committee. I came into this meeting tonight wanting to ask on the
agenda it says link's meeting >> yeah so she expand >> okay so >> Jennifer race >> oh yeah sorry just one more thing I also wanted to piggy back on Michael's
comment that you know even if the first phase is Lake Wyola maybe especially that having an ECAD climate person on the committee regardless of what the focus is seems really smart and important for you know long range
vision. So I hope that that would be part of the composition. Thanks. So that would So we could add ECAT. Um we could um I think we had ECAC, we had conservation commission, we had like finance
committee, highway department. Um, so we'd add CAP and then we could um put we could put language in around that phase one was going to be Lake Wyola and then
the committee would look at, you know, maybe another area within >> um maybe they identify as a whole area. that maybe lingo is more high priority where they're going but what's >> the high the highest priority in
>> um those and then work in those um and then I would think that we need at least seven members because I was counting here and even you know with the number of people select conservation commission um yeah we need at least seven seven
voting members um So, um I think with those changes it would work. Yeah. >> Um and I I don't think it's a problem to have two
to have at the at the outset to have somebody from the Lake Wyola Association and the Lake Wyola Advisory Committee on there. Is that are is everybody in agreement or is that too much having a
Lakeola Association member and a Lakeola advisory committee member at the outset from the city? >> Yeah, you can answer that. >> Yeah. I mean, maybe it's one or the other.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I would tend to go eet in that case just because it's >> ech definitely. Yeah. Is it lake association or lake advisor? >> Oh, you're muted.
>> I would make a strong argument for some rep from the Lake Wyola Association. um mostly because they have all the authority and information on things like culverts, things like uh road
maintenance costs, the history of road erosion, drainage problems, whereas Elwack is in, you know, they have Lake Wild association representation, but they're not as intimately knowledgeable, nor do they have responsibility or
authority for implementing anything. Um we did have some member a we had two members from the association on the task force. One was a leazison to the board of directors. She's willing to serve again and another one is someone who's
on the roads committee who's super knowledgeable about everything that the mechanics of you know water flow and drainage and he he also is really uh committed to doing this work again. And
I'll also add we had a concom person on our task force too and he's interested to serve again. So I mean I have individuals I I think I hear you're setting up roles and organizations but if you ever get to individuals I can give you all some names.
>> Okay. Great. So let's do that. Let's take out the advisory committee is also representative too. I just leave in the lake association as the and using that.
>> Um so adding phase one and change the limit. >> Yeah. Yes. And number seven. >> That's good. >> Yeah. I think that's great. Um, do we want to do we want to see it again or do
we want to vote as amended or >> so it was bad as with those changes? >> Yeah. Okay. So, do I have a motion to approve the vows storm water mitigation and implementation committee?
>> Uh, as amended. >> Oh, second. Second. I'm just wondering what the I'm wondering what the uh acronym >> Oh, yeah. >> It's got to be Simick. SMIC. >> The world of acronyms.
>> The SMC committee. >> Yeah. >> SMIC. I like that. >> All those in favor? >> Barl I. >> Ster. O'Neal. I All right. That's great. Get that one going. So um so the next
step would be then you would solicit um >> applications from folks announce and we'll put on the website so people who are interested can submit an application. >> Okay great work too. So yeah um moving
on to Haley um you're going to give us a update on our week 13 as well. So, first I wanted to start by kind of looking backwards and talking about our process and the overview of what we've done so far. Um, so the representation of the
search committee is council on eating representative Mary Joe Johnson. Um, Melissa Mis O'Neal for the select board. Um, Kathy Salvador represents the personnel board. Um, we have Amish police chief Gaby Ting. And we have several community members. um John
Hersy, Andrew Reagan, and Kelly Cersei and myself. Um so we first finalized the charge all the way back in July, late July. Um posted it on August 18th. Uh first meeting of the search committee
was September 22nd and they met twice in October to kind of go over the candidates questions that we wanted to ask. And um one thing I do want to say is that the committee has been really diligent in its charge. Um, you know, everyone has brought something to the table. Everyone has been really engaged
in evaluating people's resumes and coming up with really thoughtful questions that kind of were a little bit that dug pretty deep, I think, for a first round interview. Um, and everyone, you know, worked really well together. It's been very harmonious, which doesn't always happen
on such committees. Um, so initially we've had nine applicants and then we we've interviewed four and I think I was a little over ambitious when I thought I could do all the reference checks by tonight or tomorrow and so I have not done that and
my update is just that I think um committee needs more time. We need to meet again to kind of go over the reference check portion and just come back together because this is an important decision for the town. So, you're gonna you're gonna go back to
the reading and finish reference checks. >> Yeah. So, I just wanted the slug board's approval to kind of go back um so we can finish that so that by the time we bring forth our finalist, we have everything done. So, you've got complete package to look at because that's that was part of
the committee to do the reference checks, >> right? So, I think we like I said, I just need more time. I was okay. I miscalculated what I thought I was gonna take. You're forgiven. >> Thank you.
>> I really understand it. >> These things take time. >> Getting called back and it just takes time. >> Takes a lot of time and then it's like 12 phone calls you play, right? Phone tag, phone call. >> Yeah. >> Okay.
>> So when when will you become search committee is going to meet second meeting December, whatever week they left this and then at that point you'll have a nice um I think your next meeting will be closer to the holidays and then at that point I
feel pretty confident with that extra time. >> It will have it will have the names. >> Yeah. So our next meeting would be so the 11th so our next meeting is the 23rd. Um, and we'll ask the select where we could add another meeting if we
decided the day. >> We could do it sooner. The the just cuz I know Christmas week I have family here all week. So we could meet somewhere in the 15th area. >> Yeah, that would be much better for me.
>> Um, I will email you all for leads. >> Yeah. Okay. That that would be helpful though. Yeah, fine. >> Although this that that week so far uh Thursday I have a person in that day. >> Okay, that would be great.
>> And that way we can get it just done sooner. >> Yeah. Get it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And not not but up against the the holiday where between the two holiday weeks there. So >> So what's that? What is that Tuesday? >> The Tuesday is the 16th. December 15th,
16th, 17th. I have on here we have a meeting on the 17th. Is that true? >> It might have been at 51. >> Oh, did they change it because of the 23rd? We didn't want >> We did that one. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we already have the 17th
on our schedule. So, I think that works out great. >> Yeah. No, that's fine. Okay. Great. Right. Perfect. Great. Thank you. Um uh followup discussion on the water
access to the community church. I have found some rename for them. Um so there would be an update on that fine. They were not easy. I >> can't believe that. >> There's Well, there Yeah, the language
is um is fun. um and much older language and and the way the the um so and I think it's going to lead me to more um then I'm going to send it to Dominic
and want to give it a good yes >> um so update next Our next topic is related to Senator Kford. >> Hi everybody. >> Hello again. Thank you for joining us tonight and um being part of our
meeting. We appreciate that. >> It's very kind of you to make time and um thank you so much for allowing me a moment um with the select board. >> Great. Um so we'd also like to thank you for everything that you've done for the
Tammy Shootsberry um and trying um to get things moved forward um in our library. Thank you for your help with our new library. That's exciting. The lights are on at night. You could see a little bit in the frosted window. So, we're all excited. >> So exciting. I drove past the other day
and I was like, "Ah, there it is. It's so beautiful." >> It is. It's been a It's been I think for everybody who watch it kind of go from land to what it's becoming is uh it's been neat. Every day there's a change of some sort. So, it's been great um and
enjoyable. Um there are a few things that we would, you know, like to um bring forward and just reminders of some of our concerns and such. But um before we get into that, is there something you wanted to to talk to us about or
>> So I do have a list, but why don't we go with your your items first and then I'll just uh tick off my list um and I can just run down at the end. >> Okay. delighted. And let me just say, let me just say first, uh, besides thank you,
and I really do thank you for letting me join you, I I will say that I do know that local service is the hardest service of all. It makes, you know, federal and state look like Cupcakeville. Um, it's the truth and I I do know that and I appreciate your
service and I do know that my job is to try to make things a little bit easier um for you and you know your the beautiful community of Shootsberry, you know, knows no end and um it is really an honor to serve you. Uh and you know,
every day I'll try to do better and you'll help me do better by holding me accountable and you certainly have great constituents who hold me accountable all the time. Um but and the town should too. So um I just wanted to preface that by saying that >> thank you so much. We we I think we
enjoy what we do. We try to do it with a little bit of humor here. >> So um >> and Haley actually um sent a list to you with our comments on it, but I'll just for the people in the room just give the um little bit of a summary of she
probably just got it. Yeah. Yeah. Just received it. Um, >> um, so I'm just gonna just a quick brief thing. We had um in our I think we had just sentenced to Joe, we have said um talked about the our support for the
watershed bill with the watershed bill um and the the deed for school funding which is um an ever ever need that we have on our list. Um and also the work and and um
around the Eversource and National Grid cutting plan um and the sensitive to the environmental areas that we're all concerned about in our communities and the watershed related to those things and environmental impact um and for
Shootsbury one of the big things too is our PAS issue of course um and the the ever need for funding And we had had um at least at one point the Clean Water
Trust had had promised us a loan. And so we we would like to explore alternatives for possible funding to help with that those sources. Um which I think everybody in the room knows that our struggle with PA fasts.
>> Yeah. So, is there anything else the sweatboard would like to to offer? >> I think Jennifer already mentioned thanking um the senator for the uh rural development fund grant which is um huge.
That's really wonderful. Yeah. So, you know, the the PAS, I know before Elena went out on maternity leave, she specifically came back and and talked to us about um what what our thinking was,
whether or not we'd had any um any further discussions with D or with any other communities around um you know, what you know, what steps we could take. And we said, not not really. We just we
have this ongoing expense now and you know we've I think the we've spent the over $400,000 um in PAS mitigation funds and annually now we spend I I don't I can't remember
I think it's like 20 to 30,000 a quarter testing >> so over $100,000 a year just in testing because we have to test um 80 80 houses quarterly. So there's all this testing
and reporting and um so it's a it's a tremendous kind of unfunded liability for us going out um so many years. And when the Clean Water Trust had initially said that they
were going to lend us $300,000 at 0% interest and um that part of that will be probably forgiven. We were really we were thrilled only to find out after we had done the application, oh we made a mistake that was only from public water
supply and um that was a real blow to us because we had um you know anticipated we'd been told all along that we were in line to to to get that um and they kind came back and they didn't provide any
alternatives to us. Uh so you know whether an earmark or or some other um avenue might open up. I mean it would be great if D really thought about gee there are communities that don't
have public water supplies who have PAS problems. They're rural communities. We all know what's going on with budgets. Um >> we send our good water to Boston. >> We send water good water to Boston. We were talking about she knows
>> the choir of water said, "Oh, well, if we could pump that water up the hill, that would be great." Um, >> yeah, we have beautiful water from the beautiful Robin. Um, but we don't. And so we are faced with this ongoing
very significant expense, you know, with with no with no support in sight. Um, so yeah, the as Melissa mentioned, um, you know, that's a all all of these all
these things that you know, the school funding we're feeling very overwhelmed as as as all of our neighboring communities are big and and small with um, >> you know, not enough not enough state
funding for our schools and not enough state funding for our state owned land. Um not enough, you know, funding. Um you know, having Eversource and and and Grid, National Grid, you know, coming in
and and us being the little guys and um you know, looking at, you know, very significant environmental impacts um to these major cutting plans. Um, so it's a lot out of 1700 people with
one town administrator, no town planner, no, you know, no big um administrative infrastructure. Uh, so it's it's lonely out here and >> so we appreciate all your advocacy. I
mean, you've been a phenomenal um support there. >> Well, I need to do more. Um so you raised really important issues. So first on the Quabin bill because this ties into pilot and also clean water. Um on
the Quabin bill there is momentum. Eric, thank you for coming um to the meetings. And so the the group of towns circling the Quabin are are looking to take two actions. And um maybe you've briefed
this great body, but uh the two actions would be um one a a town resolution in the spring um that town members have drafted um and it's, you know, it's it's pretty basic. You know, it talks about the stewardship of the Quabin. The the
disconnect with the MWRA is that the MWRA denies flatly and I think insultingly um that Quabintown steward. They call it hosting. Hosting is very passive. I believe stewarding is what
you do in maintaining laws, federal and state laws and regulations. And um so this is just a this is a a town resolution that speaks to some of the elements of the quabin bill in including a community trust fund including
relooking at the pilot formula and including more of a voice on the MWR board and board of advisors. So that language, God willing, should be ready soon, um hopefully next week. And so it could come to you for your
consideration. Um and uh you know, I the hope is um uh in this group of great neighbors coming together, you know, that each town would make it its own. you know, you don't have to pass the identical language and you would consider it on the warrant for
springtime meetings and it would help us push toward uh the governor and EA secretary. Um the other is a more of an open letter to eastern Massachusetts about the water that um we can't drink
in western Massachusetts and some of our financial challenges uh in in terms of maintaining beautiful um pristine watershed land. Um, and that also I think is very moving and that's more of
a a plea over the MWR, if you will, sort of just taking our case to the people. Um, so those things are in the hopper and hopefully we'll come to you. Um, and you know, Shootsbury is more than welcome to get in there and uh, you
know, make these your own. Um, that bill has been passed favorably. Um and that just through committee uh it takes me to the next segue which is the intersection of pilot and uh PAS clean water and the
bill. Um so that there is as you know an environmental bond bill moving filed by Governor Healey. Um and we've been robustly engaging here because you know the environmental bond is like our main event out here. Education and environment you know are the two major
things along with healthcare. So, three um that folks care about out here. And so, you know, we've made it really clear that we're hoping to pass the quabin bill and fund it in the environmental bond bill. Um but what is already there
from the governor is uh a down payment on what I believe is her understanding that the pilot formula is broken in ways that need complete overhaul. So, uh, so in the environmental bond bill, there's $50,000 a year for two years for
Shootsberry, um, and all the other Quabin towns. In addition to your pilot formula, um, as again, I think a down payment, the governor also set up a pilot commission. It's a bill that Natalie Blle and I had filed. Um and she, you
know, we've been a little bit squeaky. Um and uh the governor did the bill. So she set up the commission. Um Natalie and I have both been appointed from our respective chambers separately. And that pilot commission will look at the
formula. And the formula has two I think two things wrong with it. Um you may think there's more things, but one is the algorithm, right? that doesn't really um that asks Shootsberry's land to be keeping pace with the growth for example of Nantucket or Cambridge in
terms of state land and if you don't uh mean that get that state average or higher then you're penalized right that's horrible um and it's a it's a broken algorithm for a western mass one of many um uh but then the second thing
it doesn't do is really recognize what we call ecosystem services so what are the trees doing? What are the streams doing for the people of the Commonwealth? Right? So, they're breathing for us and they should there should be remuneration coming back for maintaining that pristine land, right?
We need it to meet our clim climate goals. So, I'm excited about this pilot um commission. I think it's going to be hard and um but it's what we need out here in part. Um, and then in terms of PAS, boy,
I I know you were so bummed about the Clean Water Trust. We were so bummed. Um, so we've been, thanks to your good advocacy, speaking with our friends at EA, um, we, like you said, are not coming up with a a decent way forward.
So this will be a source of my own earmarks in the environmental bond bill will be money for Shootsberry. Um so that's something you know that I I I would hope you would imagine. I would think that and I do think that and so uh
so I will um I will be putting in an earmark uh for Shootsberry. But I actually hope to do even one step better which is I hope to work and I've we've already had these conversations in the Senate. I I hope to work so that we understand that PAS you know doesn't
only happen in municipal sources of water. It happens in homes and towns feel responsible and you know homeowners can't uh do this testing and it might be prohibitive and then town population would decline. You know the the bad cycle you're trying to prevent a bad
cycle. you're trying to do the right thing for the homeowners and um so I I hope we are able to establish uh a fund for for communities doing what you're doing. Um but if we don't I will have an earmark in there. Um you know you know
as much as much as I can guarantee anything in this world but it you're a priority uh for me in this um with regard to education. you know, I I I I totally am with you that the
uh education funding formula is broken um for rural schools and low and declining enrollment schools. Um just one thing to bring to Shootsberry's attention is uh that there is a local contribution study moving now. So, as
you know that the education funding formula is two sides. It's what Shootsberry gets, but it's also what the state says to Shootsberry that you have to pay. Um, and that formula, which is called local target local contribution,
hasn't been opened up in 18 years. Um, so my son wasn't born 18 years ago and he's about to graduate from high school. That's how old this formula is. Um, and so we were able to work in the Senate to get the get it opened. Um we are hoping
that communities will write to Desi. Um so this is something perhaps the select board can take up. Um and write to Desi about the financial agony of rural schools and I can send um we've sent a couple of emails about it encouraging
participation. I can resend that. Um and it doesn't you don't have to be experts in the algorithm which is broken. Um but you can say look we can't fund our schools and it's impossible um for us to be able to do this and um so that that
is open um that is good. It's not the whole thing. We need a foundation budget review commission, right? We need to reopen like the entirety of chapter 70. We also have to pass um the rural schools bill that uh Reple and I have
and we have to fund rural schools at a much more elevated amount. So any kind of advocacy Shootesberry wants to do. Um again I know you're jammed but it it is it would be worth doing in the education
space. There's lots moving. Um we Replay and I were out at Mass School Committee and Mass Superintendent Conference in Hyannis where we spoke. Mass school committee and the superintendents have taken a position. It's like an SOS
position for rural schools. Um so the the the internal advocacy from school committee members, uh the legislative advocacy, the constituent advocacy from municipalities and individuals are breaking through. Um it can't come soon
enough. I know it's completely unworkable. Uh it is it's an abomination and um we have to change it. So it is again these issues that are Shootsberry's issues happen to dovetail
with my most urgent work. Um so I promise I won't let up. Um and then on Eversource and National Grid, I just want to say that Michael Diara has been um like a godsend. Um uh
because uh with Elena's um Elena's out on parental leave, we love Elena and she's just had a little baby girl and um and uh and so you know, my ability to track all of these things, you know, is just so much bolstered by people like
Michael. Um so we have submitted pretty robust testimony um on the Eversource line uh which was due um and speaking you know channeling the testimony we've received from towns and from individuals and from planning committee commissions
like PVPC and FURCOG and I I think we're going to try to I I know there's a national grid meeting being scheduled at right now it's not scheduled at a time that I can attend. I I would like to attend. But regardless, we are engaging here. Um we were glad to get a little
bit more time like ask for a little bit more time for the Eversource um uh comments cuz it was coming too much in the summer, right? It was just not going to be workable for people to be able to comment. We did receive a mountain of testimony. I don't know how
Meepa uh could see it other than a mountain. if I only got CCD on 50% of what they got, they got a lot of things and maybe I got a even a smaller fraction than that. So, great organizing in the part of um the communities. Um
and then uh I just I'm looking at um I'm looking at notes here. I I also know that, you know, when we've talked off and on in the past, um there's been some real interest in
infrastructure. I'm happy that there's been a change in the chapter 90 formula so that now onethird of it is going out by miles. That's because of good advocacy. So, anything that Shootsberry wants to do um in terms of that, you
know, you should feel free, right? um telling mass dot that you know let's make it one half um by miles only. I say it all should go out by miles only um because the chapter 90 algorithm you know with mixing in population and economic development is you know never
privileged us and yet we had the miles but not the people um and that was also completely unfair. Um, >> I guess I will just say and then I just want to say that I am having lots of conversations around the regionalization
of EMS and fire. Um, I know you are too. Uh, I I this is so I just had a meeting with the Collins Center because you may know this. The Cullen Center is working um in your region and it's working up in the Leen Bernardston area and then it's
working over in the Northfield Irving area and you know so I'm talking to Linda Dunley about a much much more um robust picture um and bringing out state agencies to really talk about this.
There are in so as we do that there are a number of other things that fire services have asked like moving ambulances under EOPS and out from under DPH. If you've heard those conversations, I am for those
conversations. I I believe that there's every reason for me to want to make it easier uh for communities to get first responder services working. Um we're also working with uh GCC on the uh paramedic EMT. So one of the
things we worked on after free community college was to make the first certificate course that was offered not a BA but the first certificate course make that um EMT and paramedics. And so
we I'm glad to have been able to work on that and push that through. And hopefully over time the classes offered at GCC will be useful to the region, but only if we can get folks trained in ways that allow them to come home to communities and work solo on an
ambulance. Um unless we do that, then there's always going to have to be this need to train someone up when they come home. Um and so we are, you know, we're pressing on that in in this sort of bucket of tweaks that we can do to help
um get not only free training and I will keep up that up in this budget um but training that really works for, you know, really really small communities. Um so I just talked at you for a while, but I'm I'm happy to have questions or
more feedback, anything you want. Um just a a couple of comments. I um I think the you know the share the the regional services is something that just realistically yeah we've got to focus on so we've been working with leverage I
think it's just lever right on the firewall right yeah just >> that's what I thought the four communities were >> with the with Collins because I think um yeah I mean each each one of us kind of having our own infrastructure sometimes
it yeah just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So if if we can make make something that works um that that would be wonderful. Um and then I just want to thank you and and your staff for staying in regular communication. I mean
sometimes it is a bit overwhelming when I open up my box and I go like oh my gosh another another email. um this could be a full-time job. Uh but you know, knowing that um that you're
highlighting that your office is highlighting grant opportunities, um training opportunities is really useful for us. I sent it along. I said, "Hey, Lee, did you are you are you you
know, did you read this?" Um it really is great to know that um that you know your your staff and and you are paying attention, directing us and um and also
yeah keep telling us what we need to do because um yeah the desi stuff is really important. We know that um we will get letters out to um to those those folks because yeah, we just we had a meeting last Saturday um the regional the four
towns just on the regional school budget and yeah, it was pretty um pretty sobering um when you know as we're as we're talking about the realities and talking about the realities just in our own community about the you know with our you know with our own town budget.
So, um, >> I will get I will make sure to get the information where you can submit the email address that you can submit. If you could CC me, that would be helpful. Um, and again, it doesn't have to be, you don't have to know, again, a broken
algorithm. It's really broken. Um, uh, and we're going to hopefully fix it. It's it it has to do with, uh, that it's called combined effort yield. It's what the state says to Shootsbury. Okay, based on your land value and your um income taxes, this is how much you can and should pay. And that seems sort of
okay on the surface until you recognize that it in the state currently the rich towns really the rich big towns out east. I call I call them this is very disrespectful. So I'm sorry to the towns, but I call them the W's, you know, the Winchester.
>> Um and so they they um they get capped. So they basically are always getting 17 and a half%. Um right they so they get capped at 82 and a half%. So they they could maybe pay 30 times what the state says they can and should pay whereas we
struggle to get to the 100%. They are like yeah come on let's build more schools. Like they are so wealthy they do not um they should not get the kind of aid they do. And if they didn't, it would free up some money for communities
that are rural or declining enrollment. And this is just the truth of it. And and you know, I'm grateful to the governor for um saying yes to this. She didn't have to. She could have vetoed it. Um she could have um but she didn't.
And so I'm I'm hoping that um you know I'm hoping that uh we will push forward for a full uh foundation budget review. I will also say there's advocacy for you if you want it in the community compact grant. I know some this is for the
shared services. Um some communities I mean we we didn't fund it this year. It's it was a very difficult year uh in the budget. Um, and if you were also inclined for that, we'll send um we'll send Well, actually, you probably could
just send that to me. Uh, we are asking communities in these meetings if they would just say we receive that funding. We need that funding. Um, if that's true for Shootsberry, you could absolutely say that. >> Okay. Thank you so much. We appreciate it.
>> Well, I appreciate you and I I will say that the HillyDriscoll administration is listening, you know. So, some of the emails I've sent have been things like there's now a masses onetop, right? So, Mass do is like um the ECD onetop. You
can go in through one portal. there's an eco onetop um and you can go in with one grant and there's uh to the governor's credit in MVP um um u municipal vulnerability uh there's a separate um
rural pot of money that we've been clamoring about um and there's no rural match in the Eco1top. So we're seeing barriers to equity come down. We're totally not there yet. um we are completely not there. Uh but I do
think they're listening on the quabin. Um I do think they're listening on equity and I'm certainly listening to you. So like if you want to apply for something even if you're like, "Hey Joe, I really have no idea. We need to fix this road or like this is a covert
that's about to blow out." like you can say stuff to us like that and and and we'll jump in because we just know um or we'll get good state folks to jump in. They want to help. Um this administration really does want to help.
>> Thank you so much. >> Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. >> Yes. >> Oh my gosh. So happy to. And um I'll follow up with the um the two things on the action items and maybe Eric I'll see you next week at the Quaba meeting and we can
>> I believe you in you will >> we can lock in that. I'm really we really need to move into action now. >> I know I know >> it's been in the it's been in the >> you're trying to hurt cats and you got
15 people with ideas. >> So we've never done this before, right? We've never locked arms as Quabin communities. And I will say the the little that people I mean it's not little, people have done a lot. I mean there's been enormous good press and um
and goodwill, right? I mean the governor putting in that $50,000 a year for two years. She didn't do that, you know, she did that because she's a good person, but she also understands there's real there's real inequities here and some unrest, right? So we have to find a path
forward. >> Great. Well, thanks again. Thank you. >> Thank you, friends. >> Bye. >> Okay, on to the uh I was going to say emergency
energy and climate action. a final final. >> So gotten this. Um so I had wrote the email. It's been a bit of a process. We got we got >> a grant to do it. So we didn't pay for it, which is great. The consultants were
actually really helpful. Oh, I got a call to order because Nate's here. So I order 502. Um so >> hey >> we've got a of um so
>> yeah so we met with ICF which is the consultants twice and went through the whole pretty closely um both substantively and small edits and things like that. they were responsive. They looked back and changed things. And then
actually when we met with them last week, I sort of shared some of the spear reuse ideas. Um, and so they built it in. You know, the whole idea was we want a document that we use as a guide and I think this is going to help us in that regard. So what I told Haley is I
don't think this has to move it, but I think EAC should deliver it. You guys should accept it. Let's say we got it. Um the s just in the context the significance of this is with the
climate leader community program which is the next evolution of green communities. There were six things that we had to do in order to be eligible. This was the last one. So if remember we approved three different items was the first thing we did a couple years ago.
So with this we're we've done them all which means that we can apply for um the climate leader which a hold on because that's the next topic but any questions or comments about this >> it was a lot
>> I open that up yeah no >> cool >> they didn't want to offer anything >> okay cool glad you like them they did I think they did a really good Yeah, they did. >> And uh and you know, I will sing out the
praises of the the buildings committee because the the sources for this were the buildings committee inventory, which they did >> and then this summer doing the site visits with all um all the municipal buildings and then sort of looking at the MEI, which is the mass energy
insights and site platform. Those are sort of the three inputs. Um so it's really pretty accurate. Um and we've had a good collaboration. Frank joined on the last call in terms of looking this over. So we're collaborating going forward. >> No, that's great.
>> Um so if you're good with this, I'll shift to the next steps. >> Yeah, sure. >> Okay. So the climate leader community program um I mentioned this last week when we spoke. One of the nice things is that there's potential of grant money there. significant, you
know, because if we're able to have that status, then we can apply for things that are um climate energy related. Um, and it's that's good money. The other nice thing is there's not that many communities in the pool yet. So, unlike,
you know, the more communities that get in, the less money gets distributed, we're sort of get by the wayside. And right now, it's just as a window, so we're good. Um I think we might be the third or fourth Western Mass community to to get this. Nashville was the first um the
>> Yeah, Ammeris one I think had at least in the mix. Um but was it's still good. So >> and separate from the green community. So there's money under green communities. I was trying to figure out are they so are they separate pots or are they coming out of
>> well both programs are coordinated by the office of drink humanities which is maybe why it's confusing and then there are two sets okay >> but my sense is that there's going to be this um shift to climate leader stuff because the southern green communities
have really sort of the visionary aspirational stuff is climate >> climate leaders that's the direction we want to Thank you. >> Yeah, I was just going to jump in real quick and say that I think that once you achieve climate leaders status, you get
priority um for that more general pool of grant money. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So that's that's a so you wouldn't like apply under both sets. You just apply it under the as a climate leader
community and it's like this higher it's more money, right? >> I I don't know. There could be true pass. I mean, I'm not I'm not sure. I haven't looked at the climate meter stuff except >> just browsing through, but um >> you know, they might come up with their
>> different thinking and that's um >> we're in a better so Nate's point would be in a better position to get one. >> Yeah. For the projects we need. >> And if there are fewer um a smaller number in Western Mass, it always serves you well when >> you know you're not competing. They they
like to have a regional representation. So >> yeah, >> exactly. >> So So the next step is is um you have to apply. I looked at the what I think is the application yesterday on the uh
recommend uh platform and it's pretty straightforward. Originally I thought there might have to be something. I think I just have to attest to the fact that we did all six things and what the dates are and maybe upload them. But um what we were thinking the deadline for blind is December 31st. So we can just
probably do it next week or two. But >> if you all would consider allowing Haley to review submission on your behalf that would facilitate so we have to come back later. >> Yeah, it's fine. Do you want to vote on that? >> It probably makes sense. >> Yeah. So make a motion to authorize
Haley to apply to be for the official climate leader >> certification >> certification. Sure. >> Sarah I said >> should I should I do the spark or >> the
um I was looking at the same one. You have me and Jo. >> Do you do you know which we have all three? What's the degree? >> No, >> just the addition. >> Yeah, this is an application for authorization. As if you didn't have it. >> Oh, okay.
>> Okay, cool. >> It's just authorizing EAC to have access to the historical data in the MEI platform. So we we need to give either for full access,
>> right? >> Yes. >> So in order to apply, >> you have to go in their website and log in. And so right now >> the town administrator and then Joan Hansen has access. She's bringing in the data, >> right? Well, what I was thinking was
that I can go in and do all the input and then it saves and then hey go and push push submit but I can't do the adding confirmation right now because I view only so we were told by Chris Mason community versus we have to get the
letter signed by you um approved by the select board basically giving the ECAT email address full permission and then once that happens they'll change their permissions. I'll go in and they add our stuff. Then I'll give you a heads up and we'll submit it and hopefully it
shouldn't be too complicated after that. >> For John, right? Just you just sit there. >> Yeah. >> And the turn is okay. >> Yeah. >> The application process. So I love
>> it's having a bit of fun. It's like, you know, if you just give the website with the stuff, no one knows what's in it, you know. know what you're getting into. >> So, >> so we have to vote to give authorization to EAG to access the just tell me what
the right >> it's full access solid access to platform >> and EI mass energy. >> Okay. So, make a motion. >> Yes. >> All right. There we go. >> Okay.
I'm going to save you from having >> Okay. >> All those Carol I >> mean I'm trying to >> Thank you very much. >> I I saw um Jill going through said what are you doing? She's going through all
the you know all the bills getting all the updated great job. actually was really useful because I was trying to get information about the the EMTT Spear Library and she was you know she was right there she was pulling stuff down
our whole green community. >> Yeah. So she did that for years as the town. We'll see how it works or something. Yeah, >> she knows the system. She knows what's needed. She knows what files available. It has to come from hard copy invoice. >> Yeah, it's very safe.
>> Yeah. >> So, two things I'll quickly add. One was just on the NBI data a few months ago. There was a professor of Bentley who reached out to EAC um and she was working with a few communities I think it's us and Lever and up in Eastern Mass
to look at energy related stuff. So, I said yes, we'd have to do anything. So they create some reports show us based on the NB ideas. So at the end of the semester we have something about adoption in terms of >> you know efficiency and things like that which we can share out. Um what was the
other thing I already forgotten? Oh well it was good one. So can I ask can I ask a question while you're here? So um do you know or I mean and maybe it's a
question for the building committee >> for the last okay >> um do you know if energy audits were done of all town buildings at any point? Yes, they were. They're being Let's
guess uh the latest there were two rounds and the latest is what got us the chance to get this film by the filming wasn't work was all of them.
>> Okay. Uh what year? >> 24. >> So, and was it >> Oh, no. Sorry. They their audit was in 23. a work and the word what were >> weatherization >> weatherization >> right so the the deal was you had to get
all these buildings moderized before you could even begin to talk about energy efficiency and use inside the building >> okay >> which made sense >> and who has those records who has the records >> pardon me that
I have some What are you looking for? >> Well, for example, what was done? So, I'm specifically interested in the current life. Was there anything done visav weather
station and that and this and and this >> you know so the audit came up with a recommendation for what needed to be done I think there was some but I should >> okay so that would be really helpful
that um because you know as you're talking about um the reuse of that building. It's kind of directed us to look at how we use this building
currently and whether or not there's more, you know, efficient use is here, but it's it would be good to know sort of what was what was recommended, what was done
if I don't get to you connected to >> and just on that I mean in this whole report one of the things I think that's really helpful is this table of items called major trigger events and so we were the way they approached it which I think we all appreciated was this is a
lot and costs a lot of money you got 25 years to do it so do it at major milestones so looking at the aging of boilers or things like that um and sort of sketching it out and the thing that the the change. One of the changes we made last week after, you know, talked
to Rita about three years was this whole timing of things. So, it might be that if we, you know, ever gets determined to be a use for the current sphere building, we might have a need for it and then we're going to say, where do we
get money? And so, presumably the climate leader program funded just like MDP was saying, is it in your plan? Did you discuss it? So we built it into the plan say this might be coming. So even though those you know the biggest user of
energy is the is the school you know so what they were saying is if you're going to do stuff you know really bang for the buck is do the school but timing wise we might trip over the spear form and so like that looking the trigger thing I think is really helpful sort of
understanding we intentionally wrote it that way just so that we can refer back and you know be able to back ourselves up if we have a claim about we're doing spear I don't have any money. My initial point that I forgot was just if you know there we had discussions we started
calling it the MNP building as much library because >> yeah that's good to start. >> Yeah. >> So yeah. Okay. Good. Thank you. Cool. Sorry for all >> you don't have anything else for your
want to move toward. >> Okay. One second. I second. >> Okay. And your vote, please. >> I Okay, we're officially term. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right.
Is town administrator report? >> So, I want to start by reading an announcement from our police department. It's the first time in many, many years. Um but they have partnered with whole list of agencies, the elementary school,
the fire department, um the athletic club, the library, the community church to help families um this holiday season. So there is upstairs a community giving tree. We uh wrapped the ribbon this morning around it. And um the idea is we
will be soliciting members of the public to say you know how many kids are in your family know what they want for the holidays and then there'll be a period of time in which members of the public can be on a list and fulfill those needs and drop it off at any one of the
organizations that I just mentioned. Um, and so there was a town announcement set up today, but for anyone who didn't read it, um, if families are interested in participating, all they need to do is, um, there's a number of options. You can go to the Shberry and Friends of the
Shakespeare Police Department Facebook page. You can request a paper copy through any of the partner agencies. Um, you can reach out directly to any partner agency. Um, and then there's also a link that I think will be on the town website. Uh so there's a number of
ways that um individuals can reach out if they'd like some extra support this weekend and if folks are interested in donating um gift lists will be available after December 5th and those will be here at the town hall. Folks can fill in
and then they would just need to drop off the donations by December 19th. And um so will it be anonymous for the families? Yeah, totally confidential. We're not sharing any personal identifying information. Um it's kind of
be very similar to like adopt a adopt family programs. >> And if folks have questions, they should just reach out to our acting police chief Devon fellow year by email. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And um I do want to give a shout out. Um Deon did a lot of homework. reach out to
like the Stoen Police Department, the Ammeris Police Department, a couple other agencies to kind of figure out what they do that works well. >> So that was and login. So I have in front of Melissa
there's a binder which is a town emergency management plan. It requires a signature by the subboard chair, but this is what Lenny has been working on and the emergency management group. >> I saw that. Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> There you go. >> He's asked that you sign that tonight. Okay. I can get that back to you. >> Great. >> And just do I hope to sign the the comprehensive
emergency management also known as plan for screening. >> So moved, sir. >> I should say updated. >> Updated. Yeah. >> Okay. All those in favor? Sarah I >> I >> Yes. Um, so I was speaking with our
consulting assessor, um, Jay, and he recommended that, um, with your approval, I reach out to the Department of Labor Services and get a free consultation for financial practices and governance structure. They'll come in and look at our history and talk about
how might improve things, you know, on based on what we're doing now. So, I would definitely to pursue that. Um, he said that about Dr. where he currently works today fairly recently and it was really helpful for them. >> Did we do that a few years ago? >> Yeah, we had a card.
>> Yeah, they did it for us. >> No, we hired some guy through it. >> Joe and Joe. >> Yes. years ago, eight years ago. >> So, just do an an update if it's been that long. I think it's reasonable.
>> You have to do an update. >> Yeah, it was a >> It was a YouTube run. >> Yes. Um >> Oh, yeah. I was I was a long time ago. Yeah, I was six years ago.
>> Yeah, I remember going to be I should have asked. >> Yeah, I was just I suggest um >> maybe to check in like with George um >> Arvinitis just cuz he I think he was well he would remember everything. So
give us some background. >> There'll be the final meeting on December 2nd. So >> yes, I can touch base with that too. And speaking of the banning palm, um you know, we talked a little bit about the four towns meeting about the four town working group and um recommending
members to officially join them because I think they're looking to take that um more formal. So I know AJ has um offered to do it and no one else on this board does. I think he would be a lot of meetings. It's a lot of meetings. He's good.
>> He's been great there with great um and then you do need another member to serve on that committee. So >> are you willing to do it? >> I would love I've gone to the meeting so I can definitely I was for a while and I there been midday
>> and um kind of spur of the moment to be honest. >> Yes. Although if they go more formal, we'll have to have to the meeting. Hope so. >> Haley, if you're willing to do it, unless Eric, are you done? >> I think it would be great. So, I
nominated. >> Yes, I >> All right. 8 a.m. and I will work on that together. Um, and then the last thing on my list, and I'll probably just need to work with one of you, whoever wants to do it. So Bob Dean from the
Furkog reached out um the Ferg is working on what is it called the I don't they have a name for it but it's basically looking at what are town's priorities you know if we were looking for additional support from the Furco whether it's grant writing or something
else instant prioritize um so I'm sure you know I can come up with a couple things but if somebody just wants it to be done in the afternoon we can come up with a list he has a whole chart in everything. >> They have suggestions about what they
can do. Don't Isn't that a Don't >> It wasn't an email. The email was just the ask and then this charge. >> Okay. >> We never did it. >> We've never had in some >> and with Dave, they've been really
helpful. So, >> yeah. >> To ask. >> Yeah, it doesn't hurt to ask. I don't know on the purchasing stuff. Has that come up at all? Has that been an issue on procurement?
>> Not really. No. Um Matteo did the bid for the sub conservation area. Okay. That was really helpful to have do that. >> Um and then we haven't really had the type of fair. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just know that's an area
where um in the past like begging would go she would >> if it was if it was a complex procurement issue um that she would use that I have met with Laura before he had so and actually one thing maybe I should
have mentioned when Joe was talking about the municipal empower special to like $100,000 procurement that makes it much easier. >> Okay. All right. So everything I can
think about next week >> with the national grid meeting. I sent you all an email this morning, right? >> The 10th. September. >> Yeah. That's why I sent out the second email. It's like her aid said, >> you know, when I sent out the 10th,
>> they were all good. And then when I sent the next day, I said, "It's officially the 10th and we're read." She said, "Oh, I can't do it because she's doing town hall." So, I spent the last few days >> polling people. But um by a poem users could go make it um and the national
people would bring their fur >> maybe just >> Yeah. I mean I I emailed them this morning and told you we tried really hard. >> Yeah. >> But you know it's more important for residents and town officials to get an update. >> No. Is it going to be something more
than what we heard when we went on the center visit? >> Well, it'll be focusing on at least the three talent, so it should be more inclusive. And I'm assuming, you know, I think it'll be a similar flavor. >> Um, but you know, they had said what kind of format they were pitching for
this um I forget like small group things. So they sort of had um posters who experts who are sort of people would sort of travel around but we opt for a presentation so that they'll do a whole presentation Q&A because I I mean my students not everybody knows what
questions they want to ask. >> Yes. Exactly. >> So so I think it's sort of similar and I'll just say the scient I think was worked out really well. >> Yeah. It's interesting. >> Yeah.
going to change the lights. >> Yeah. I I think the Eversource is much more dramatic. >> It is. It's going to be much more cut. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think this is, you know, the issue with this is all the heavier machinery. I wasn't pleased the guy from
Maine who we answered about the roads because one of the points that I made when we were there is about road access you know because they don't you know they don't mobile stuff and so they're going to have truck you know like big trucks on the road and if a school bus
wants to get by can't so after talking about the narr and sort of you know depending on the weather they're running and run off and all that they said that one guy said we definitely need a transportation plan which was good because it's like you know there's no work around you go down corner they go
to school or commute you can't drive around >> they're they're putting this big single post just like they did the taking down the town single
>> you've seen a toxic basic >> helicopter. >> So atkins, this was a couple years ago at one day after helicopter was like looking up. I'm like, is it coming in? Like what is this? And no, it was
hovering with one of the little scar getting cables, too. >> Wow. >> So, they brought it in with the helicopters. They were bringing with the helicopter. Wow. Yeah. It was impressive to watch. And I couldn't see couldn't see what they were doing. Only that the helicopter was flying with the pole and
then dropping it and even cover until they had it probably stabilized and he fly off >> with another one. >> Wow. It was It's wild. >> It was pretty wild. Yeah, number you check it out. >> If you look to the left,
>> they've been working. >> The other I mean we just sort of picked up on is that they keep one side energized and then they work on the other side. >> Yes. Um big cell generators. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They were all
>> I don't remember. But but I mean that's I think the whole point is never dying like how are you going to pull this off? >> No. And it and it it probably impeded traffic at different parts of the day. Like when they went in and you probably put down their own tax
and then um once they were in it wasn't when they were coming out. >> Yeah. And just the trash never road. I mean depending time of year after >> Yeah. know there.
>> Yeah, it's it's worth pointing this stuff out to them because >> they're it's good that we're >> Okay. Do I hear a motion to adjurnn? >> So moved. >> Second.
>> All I Thank you. effects. I think