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do you want to call know your da that's perfect um so there is only one one agenda item this evening which is um an interview um for day premere we're going to dispense with any um public comment this evening and just move right into the interview um which will be conducted by select board so welcome thanks for um for coming in this evening uh somebody want to start sure um why don't you give us just a little introduction of you who are you da just what we're here for operator everything B could I ask you to speak up a little B you could even move you could even move up a little bit closer that's no I'll speak up I yeah I talk soft it's okay there's a there's a bit of that's another thing about me I talk sof Okay carry STI um I'm a religious man Witnesses since 1985 I started and I was an elder in the congregation for 17 years talks teach and I was ministerial what Tim does most people know is a a deacon some Churches so basically I've learned a lot of things over the years work with for companies I've acquired a lot of experience um I've had my own business for four and a half years so I know what it takes to do the paperwork and the bills and pay pay employees and so I'm familiar with the office aspect of that um also I worked in paper mills for 10 years years and I was in a machine tender and machine tender in charge of the whole machine group employees he the cause the shock everything I did that I was working at that Papermill for six and 1/2 years and then I worked at Pittsburgh for 3 and A2 years um I worked for the town of wh we only know heavy equipment up there um and trust me with all the machines the only thing I didn't run there was the grer I didn't run the grer there didn't run the streets re the two days in cleaning I have a license for all of that got I got all those licenses back in 01 when I got laid off the paper I went right up and got my tractor trailer license I've been a tractor trailer driver since 01 I was a yard jockey for a company Garder for seven years I deliveries I managed their warehouses and I worked for a Timber Harvester for five years I drove log trucks chip trailers so I have a lot of experience with heavy trucks and I'm at home in the back I'm at home in a front motor to put me in the grer when I first started here and gr ever since I like the here that's a challenge I like challenge so that's that's who I am um my father Tau me a lot of stuff about machines he used to work for the landfill down in Sunbury I used to go every weekend down there I used run the front end bring him dir to BU the trash he ran the compactor and everybody used to just take pictures of me because I was just a kid front end lo I couldn't even sit in the seat I had had to get down in front of the seat to run it it was It was kind of fun for residents to see that but now oh I'm S I have some yeah that's that's the way they did things that's how kids learned how to do stuff back then you know when I worked with Tima Harvester his son was in in his lab running machines and now his son is has his son sitting in his lap so that's how we learn how to run operate machines a lot of time don't forget to mention your mom oh my mom she was quite a lady she raised stock cars my father raised stock cars when I was a kid so we used to I used to tear the cars down so that they could put the r cages in used to my mom raced for one year with all the B she came at night the point standing so she was quite a lady very crafty she was she had two degrees in Wild so smart girl yeah yeah I I keep forgetting to bring a picture and to show you well you're just getting the education for both both parents that's Yeah well yeah not always the norm yep so that's why I am I'm just I'm a quick learner I loveing what I do kind of bummed the last week and a half when I was in the office trying to get all the paperwork ready for the paving and um payer that kids were all running the machine so I was kind of jealous but you know I've done it all my life so I guess it's time to teach somebody else i' like to do that I like to teach so um I'm thinking about this position I mean obviously you've been here you've been in town for four years worked on are both um uh our last two Highway superintendant um for you making that transition to Highway superintendent what do what do you think would be most challenging the most challenging part of it for you I think the Challen most challenging part is I love to run the machines and that's what I do that's what I love to do and the challenging part would be you know I like to leave my work at work and my home life as my home life um it's not fair to my wife to take work home I've always to Pride and try not to bring my work home with me so I know that would be a challenge other than that I I don't find it to be that big a deals transitioning into it because so familiar with how it all how it all works I will have to learn a little bit um been talking to Matt down he's willing to help me with know some of the chapter 90 stuff just to get the hang of that um I was at a furog meeting Tuesday and I was about an hour I had to leave after an hour and a half because everybody kept coming in the office and asking me questions so I had but I I got a good idea of what they do um and um I think Steve started that process so I just got to I got to get look around the office and figure out all the paperwork how Tim filed how Street filed I don't know that so but I have been finding a lot of stuff in the computer that's up they they have a lot of stuff but they got started Pap paperwork and stuff I've done the the warrants twice and payroll once so I get a payroll by myself it's all fam with that stuff so that was my question is whether or not mean s obviously you get a lot of experience driving machines there's no question about that but it seems like there isn't as much experience in the paperwork kind of things and obviously there's a lot of paperwork but I can understand the whole thing I I us drive trucks to I know you're talk i' rather drive the trucks boss the people who right yeah but uh me that so the I guess it's the paperwork something You' find challenging or you worried about that at all should he worried about that no that's a good question um I was a secretary for the congregation for four years I was an accountant for six in the congregation so I'm very familiar with number process and and uh keeping files and stuff like that so I have a lot of experience at that congregation level and I do all I do all the bills at home I do that you know just cuz I Okay computer experience so that out yeah he was he had jumped right on and found most everything he needed to do the warrants the vendor warrants and the payroll so that was you know he asked me to come in just to help him figure a few things out but he was he was on the Move um checking out the files I think we we ended up double paying because we didn't understand Steve's system I mean we didn't double pay but we uh did a vendor warrant that Steve had already put in but now that you figured out this is what he was doing that won't happen again and ga's happy to help him she didn't seem that no she didn't I'm sure I'll make a mistake sometime but everyone um in your past work experience so this what this um you know the department has a couple of employees and then will have occasional plowing out um do you have experience managing um either within the companies you worked for or your own company managing staff members and other oh yeah yeah I I ran Cruise of between five and 10 people at Paper Mill and um I had my own business my own people so yeah some experience on how to deal with people even difficult people paper was not easy we worked rotating shifts worked a lot of hours so everybody's tired so you have to learn how to deal with you know tired people and highways aren't any different when time you get tired so sometimes they get at each other so I do have a lot of experience that and likewise with um the companies you work for in your own how how did you deal with um in this case it wouldn't necessarily be customers but they'd be residents that may not be happy with assaults or various people just stay calm say what they going to say try to answer their questions best way you can yeah I've talked to a lot of residents around here there a lot of nice people around residents AR which one C perit right the res yesterday that was a big surprise yeah I had I had to put together conditions in terms of for the contractor to make sure that he airs the road right I I called him because he was familiar with the farm and was a it was already a line underneath the road but it was just a conduit for electric and that's only 2 ft down water has to be P me down so you know I had to put those turns in there make sure that he's going to compact it right I'm familiar with that cuz I work for a contractor who used to do trenching and I've been a lot of trench classes lot how it's supposed to be done and got a lot of trading that so Dave you mentioned that um that there was you had some questions about the chapter 90 paperwork related to the paving so is that and and that you spoke with the lever um Highway super yeah I talked to Matt and I also talked to Aaron in New Salem okay and um I actually did talk to Tim about a little bit and um there's a guy that comes that will come down and show me he's from the the chapter 90 Mass Highway Mass Highway yeah so he yeah Matt said he's he's really good he'll come down and just run me through all that oh great okay so that's an arrangement you need to make is to have him absolutely yeah yeah I'm not afraid to make a phone call just ask questions I want to know sure great make sure I do it right yeah lot of money invol and they changed the whole chapter 9 to beers system it's all online now I'm just learning it I'm familiar with how to do the computer work when it comes to De science and all that stuff familiar with that do that a lot that was going to be my followup question that's okay helpful yeah no no no that's good the more information we get uh the better um so you're Comfort level with dealing with um stuff that's online and filling up or that's yeah I'm pretty good at it my wife's helped me out a lot she she she used to um be a lead at a company for 18 years and she used to do all the scheduling and she used to do all that stuff so I'm not afraid to ask her if I tell her I don't know something and she she's super good at teaching me that stuff and stuff and I've been doing it for a while so I used to have to do for congregation and then to have to send reports to the organization and then I just just have to fill in all the everything with live paperwork you have to it is then you have to send it familiar with that Years thank you what about like the wetlands protection act something you're going to run into a lot I think um you know dealing with the Conservation Commission making sure you have permission to do you know how it is yeah um any issues there what's your experience there P I don't have an issue um I just was kind of hoping that they could give me some kind of a you know some kind of guideline as to you know what I'm allowed to do without having to call them like do renes and stuff like that um Tim gave me some ideas of that about the things that we're allowed to do inside Road and um I want to do some cul extension pipes so that I can get the c a lot of our culs are right on the edge of the road and what we're having the trouble we're having is it's washing and when you're grading you got to grade right you got to make sure you don't hit any of the wall know the stones on the top and stuff like that so I want to just extend those out so I put the walls off the road so at least it be easier to grade and make sure that they're blowing up in the road we had started a process where um notice of intent um and Beth has the draft um Beth who's the chair of Kong Kong has the draft version that we're going to sit down together with um hopefully soon and um review and the it's a bundled order of conditions for the highway department and it'll give you it'll help give you that guidance of you can do this but you can't do that and where what needs a permit and what doesn't need a permit and so um I have a draft upstairs you're welcome to review and um we'll get back in touch with best um she hasn't gotten back to me yet because she's been bued we we'll make it a priority one thing that I want to make sure is that everybody knows what we're doing because I don't like you ask for thiser just get into trouble that way I'm not like that I want to know I want to know ahead of time I have a project that need to be done whatever there's a couple of things that I'd like to change the highway department itself washing the trucks to take those somewhere else to wash them not just let it going around and have issues with the storage of I don't see a white ground outside the door check so what would you do there what would you suggest um um I was hoping to look at Salt sheds and just because Matt has one of those big rounds and he keeps everything in that building and the only time i' ever reload the trucks right there um I'd like to find a way that trucks come with the salt we're not dumping it in the middle of the parking lot cuz that's what we're doing right now we're dumping the salt right in the middle of the parking lot and you can't get all that salt off the parking lot um and then we're bringing it to where we're storing it we have like three different places we store stuff and so I'd like to contain that all in one thing one but I know that's going to take some doing research and figure it out I'd like to try to get so that the trucks can dump the salt right into the salt ched I open the door a little bit more or something right now On Track Trail there's no way he can D it right into the shed Matt has set up where they can do that i' like to just research on that I think it's a good thing to keept yeah I'm sure the appreciate that well I I think it's been an issue in town has haven't we had some polluted Wells from the salt that in yeah yeah since then I've made a retention so that know and rains and stuff the water go there and it has a chance to you recort close into the woods or wetlands and stuff like that I just did that on my own um when Steve was here Steve liked it but just want to I want to make sure that we do things right suris v um so just it's good to hear you talk about things that you might change is there anything else beyond the salt shed and the clearing of the trucks that are you know priorities for you as that you know as you take over um we have a couple of older trucks um when I Steve was I mean Tim was on vacation I came into the the meeting and introduced the new truck that he wanted to purchase and I mentioned that the other truck wasn't safe know eventually it's going to be a problem and we're not going to be able to the back whole back of the truck would come right off it's been welded and patched so much that it's not really in that great a shape it's okay for now but Tim kept that old truck instead of training get in I was a little upset when I found out but he that's what he did I would like to get rid of that truck or do something with it those trucks are both discontinued trucks there's old one they're both Sterling Trucks the old one B's going on it starting to get to the same condition as the other truck I would like to see that we could take those two trucks and trade them in for maybe another 10 wheeler similar to the one we have because we do a lot of hauling we save a lot of money by doing our own hauling and it's a good thing to do in the winter time because a lot of stuff you can't do in winter time can't grade roads you can't dig you ditches you very much winter is winter um so I would like to be able to have that capability to go and get cuz you the the six wheelers you can only put 8 yard in it for 10 m you put 14 to 15 yards in it so it's more cost effective for you to go get the material pick up that much at a time time and you're hauling things like hard pack or yeah hard pack sand winter um we also um call Stones sometimes stones for for projects remove from intersection remove snow from the intersection remove from the intersections REM no we don't do that um we we usually can find a place to put it um we just what we do like to do is remove the snow from um entrances so that people can see to get out because it does build up sometimes lately we these last two Winters it's been all slush it's a whole different ball game now the temperatures are warmer um and last year Sten I talked stepen to letting me use the white salt when it's warm and it's a $100 cheaper truckload than the C the tree it's Sal that you need when when it's below 27° very familiar with that the first town I worked at they were all salt and they would Ed the white you know I've got to learn how when to use the white salt when to use uh we used to spray calcium on of the salt we put it out on the roads um that's one way of doing it now they have it mixed in with the salt so we don't need the tanks and the sprayers and all that maintenance and have have a tank to haul the I mean to house the stuff and then that has to be contained so this it does Save A Lot um and I talked step to let me use a little bit more of the white salt rather than the treated salt cuz it's more expensive and we could use that when it's and we saved we saved a lot last winter we did a little bit of pre tree which Tim didn't leave it and I that's something I learned in the last two highways departments I work for is um if you pre tree you use less of tering and the roads don't get real slick and hard packed um you know if you're coming in after the snow starts it's already been treated so you know a lot of times we didn't get calls from State Poli last year of no that we needed to treat the roads because we pre-treated it was it was already on the road when neb were coming home at 11:00 and driving through town and saying all the Press C is too slippery or we didn't have that last year previous years we did that's actually a good segue into emergency so part of this position is part of the emergency management team um and it which is a coordination of the for of Health like cbard and police and fire and school and and uh maybe missing someone but that's the the general and how do you how do you would you work with the fire and the police departments in in emerly an ice storm for example and you haven't necess um maybe had the experience of the 2008 um ice storm so how much you coordinate with fire well um I've been talking to Christ and she wants to meet put me in money police chief just so everybody's on the same page as to who call not to call and we had a little issue with the Shel tried to call Steve there was a tree down I know why they didn't call me they have my number I don't know why they didn't call me but they call the fire department but they have our number now Becky sent a letter to them and also CH I think said something to them she called them and then she um sent my letter over to them they would like to have an official letter head from yeah this you know from the town and that's that's something we did so I'm work but you know I even put in the terms the conditions the road if they have to CL the road when they cut it call the police department so he contractor understands that police need to know when CL the road down when how long stuff like that so Kristen loved that she she was all happy she I can't believe you did that thank you so I mean they're going to they're going to do it on a weekend so there's no buses involved so don't need to call the bus company so yeah I want to coordinate everybody communication we all like each other that's many stop the greater today yeah his dad is is no longer at the house [Music] mom's let going through some things L um so another question I have and only this is because of my background now construction do you have familiarity with Y oan regulations and safety I've been I've been trained do you have oan t no I don't have that right now I did have it um and I went to some classes for oer the first Highway Department I worked at but I don't know if the regulations have changed but the trench I already talked to the two kids that been working with me that we going to wear chaps the chainsaws and want high is you know just want to make sure nobody gets hurt we need them one goes out and there only two of us you would you be um supportive of regaining your certification and having the other people in Department get there y uh Steve was working on that I don't how far you got on I'll ask how you got on that how would you handle something like an employee was uh you thought an employee was you know drinking on the job using D or whatever you know those kinds of things um how would you deal with that or what what how would one deal with that well that's something that really Christ should know Drive know what happened first Highway Department I worked at they had a guy down with the land came in drk and they called the police department they came down so familiar with the process and they all we also had a foreman Comm in drun one time and Bo took them home in a truck let the record I wasn't happy about that they didn't do I don't know what they did didn't tell me went from there this legal things I don't want to work for somebody to drunk one of the things that I've already told those guys I said you know you have your CD license your own car4 you go get a bar and get a beer and try home one beer so yeah I'm very familiar with that um Dave um obviously you you've been again you've been uh with the town for um 40 years in the highway department um Coming moving into the position as um Acting Superintendent did you um feel like you had kind of a set of priorities of work plan how how are you going to kind of go from here about setting um setting priorities do you think we need to go in a different direction obviously the wendle road paving was coming up but you know beyond that what are the you know what are the next steps for you in taking over um getting ready for winner that would be my first priority getting the trucks ready we had one two trucks fa the big trucks already in the shop to get bits G that's one of the Sterling that's the troubles you have with you have four trucks I want I want to get back down to three trucks so we don't have so much to take care of um and yeah I would like to plan ahead for next summer St chip seal on that SP part CH seal is not always I don't it how long ago was that how long ago was the chipsy uh it was before I came probably about five or six years ago and then um I was with the the crew when we did hel Hill that section was quite a section that we did all past Baker on that and I was pretty impressed with the way they did that that was nice this p in cre they had a bunch of questions for me and I didn't know how Steve had set it up I didn't know how Ted it but um they asked me a couple of questions because they they wanted to know if I was familiar with if you have crack seal on the road you need to put a a layer on there and then put the hot top over the top you don't you're going to see all those all that crack seal in the road outwards yeah this and then they asked me if they wanted to me to spray the attack in between the two layers and I said yes um because that's the smart way to do it he even said that he says a lot of people try to go by go cheap and this section of the road will last longer than life should last and yeah I want to just keep up with our roads dirt roads want to do some research I know maybe an engineer can come down take a look at them with me and give me some suggestions maybe you get up somebody in to work on some of those um I don't know what their pricing would be the f I talked to Ellen the F and she say she wants talk to me um to so just kind of let me know what they have for funding and stuff like that so yeah it's I like a challenge and that's definitely going to be a challenge yeah but I want to get the dirt ro we're on the base all of our dirt roads are at base and I found out some more spots I wanted you that there's nothing on and I broke two teeth on the on the the um the grer is in really bad shape right now I can tell you that I I wouldn't let anybody else drive that greater other than me because it when you drive out onto the road it articulates on its own and you have to make that correction real quick otherwise you're going into another lane or you're going off the road I'm familiar with it so I won't let anybody run that machine until I get it fixed and all the Pistons leaking it's 39 years old pretty old machine it's an 85 machine we got it used um I wanted to take it down during the winter time when we not using I'd like to take it down to am have just look at it see if you can fix some of the Pistons just just to get by the um the blade there's a bar that goes under that holds the blade to the machine that one has been broken on one side and um need a new bar um the machine clutch is going on um I just when I got in it Tim just said you know just know that everything is loose and you know and so I just went slow till I figured out what the machine could do what it couldn't do um but yeah if you're if you're down to the base of the road and you got the boulders and rocks and ledge and you hit that with a teeth great de greater dead and that's a lot of force on that machine um and it broke two of the teeth off on the the brush actually what they call it um I just call it a sweet it's a it's got teeth the blades have teeth um some pounds use them some pounds don't like them Tim didn't like them never used them they're they were sitting in the back and I couldn't get into Mon road with the flat blade so I remember but they were there and so we made a quick change and I was able to get B graded um B was in pretty bad shape and I I hit some of that ledge and broke two of the teeth off I was able to finish but so yeah the AR roads are on the base there haven't been there hasn't been much put on them when you start seeing the red and the road you know you're in into the base road so I want to find out what like certain areas there's a lot of ledge and stuff like that put fabric down underneath and you have to put I think 6 in at least on the top of that and S area so I just want to do some research so we can get our roads under control and we have a lot of ditches some of our pave roads there's some cers that go under the road uh for instance when you go down under Road you'll see the ditches on the side big drop offs and whatever those need be D they need to be so that so that cars can't drive into those it's really a hazard people walking on the side of road bicycles you can't have a ditch like that you can't have a big drop off like that so I'd like to look into getting we have some stuff to build and I have built it before um built mans and Bas that's we did a lot of that in but I would like get rid of those big holes and they're easier to clean you don't need a back to do it so yeah this is a lot of improvements that I'd like to do if you dig a ditch in the road you have to put a plate on it if you're not going to fill it in and those ditches are like that know that I know it's not good that's the way they did it just quick follow up um have you had a chance to take a look at the highway department budget to see if it's add that's something I haven't I I was looking for it on the computer it wasn't on the computers um he has like forms um and he's got I got to put some stuff in folder so I know where they are and stuff Tim just put all of his PDF right on the front screen and so you like trying to find so Tim wasn't really computer literate he you know he did what he could um which is fine you know a lot of people a lot of guys don't like computers he the best the world know I was in touch he's a lefty straight up and down righty does a little bit of the yeah so I I I yeah I've seen what Steve did and I've seen what Tim did and yeah Tim Tim was very good at values he kept a lot of Records you know I'd like to put him in the computer they easier to access but yeah so this there's a lot of stuff I'd like to do just going to take time yeah I like a challenge told that before yeah I think to the extent that um uh those C you know costs associated with getting the machines upgraded or replaced as much advanced notice right as we can have is good because before within a few months you'll be starting in the the budget process for next year so be good to get familiar with this year's budget the budget request is already out brog is no it's also out for the town so I'll make sure you can find it I'll it out for you a cop I'd like to see where we're at yeah and I can review the expense report with you so you can see where we're at that would be nice yeah have an idea I right now Asos to what I but I know this is all all this stuff's going to take time I know we'll keep the TRU on them as much as we can keep theer going there's always a tradeoff between like pouring money into a vehicle or exactly I know that personal experiences from the trucks I used to own stuff that just throw good money after bad so speaking easily if you would you don't make you make I'm mistake yeah I don't want to put a lot more money into those Sterlings no exactly that's what I'm talking and I don't like surprises I like to know how what condition the trucks are in you know get things taken care of before they br don't fix it some people think yeah I'm not a thinker like that I would like to get a company to do some servicing on our truck rather than us and the reason why I say that is the pression these are these trucks all have computers now they have automatic transmissions that I'm used to driveing 18 speed right the eaten Fuller Transmissions there's no maintenance really with those except just making sure you get keep your ear up oil up on it and stuff but with the automatic transmissions you got to service those you and they're computer operated the Alison transmission that's in the new 10 wheeler is quite uh quite a machine and I'd like to make sure that this service proper because if you don't service those property it's very expensive more so than the be Tran yeah and everybody's going automatic now all the trucking companies are doing it you know they want the computers in there we don't even have a computer either I can't even shut an engine light off you know look it up he was looking at getting one yeah I got him looking at him I I wanted I wanted a computer to be able to read those they're expensive some of them are the Raymond's up in bernon they their his daughter is the one that does all the computer reading on the trucks and I asked her which one's the best one to to get and she gave me she told she said don't buy this one buy this one you know um we have to be able to read your computers but when it comes to servicing the trucks you have that there's I'm sure they have to do programming on them when they Services I'm not familiar with that process so I want to make sure that that 10 wheeler lasts for light should are there companies that do that that come to be a mobile service yeah I went to an expo last Thursday and I met a guy that they their company it's just down past Bel Town um they they go to Highway departments and they actually need computer they service trucks and so forth I want to find out what that budget would be um right now our system or Tim system was they have a guy that comes in and replaces the filters when we use it so we're doing fuel filters you know changeing the oil stuff like that that's fine um I found a center bearing gone on one of the trucks when I was doing that so it's good that get any but when you service your own trucks um the older ones they don't have computer that's all changed the Western Star has a computer and it also has and transmission as well and the new truck has one that's a more updated right now there's an engine light on that truck I don't have a computer to read it we know what it is because we had the same problem and had to take it all the way down to Springfield it cost us $7,000 I know it's the price of buying that computer I'd rather spend the money on something that once and be able to at least look at it and if something we can't do then that's fine obviously take you somewhere or have somebody come up and service it I already asked a bunch of questions about that and I want to find a place to wash the trucks it's got to be a place out there truck wash station or something that we can take the trucks to not wash salt into the ground I don't agree with that when the first time I work for we got the wash station they had a recycl system it works but you're washing the truck would recycle water assaulted right so you're not that's that's not helping you anything right so you have a place you can go with a Washington station but you're not going to wash truck with salt trucks going to last longer so I had another question just about Staffing now so um you're the acting we have one um other person then just started you just got SW in yesterday or this morning it was was this morning he morning in this morning he brought his paperwork down so I'll get him on front the computer look at the paperwork um he needs an over rail Hydra license he does have the 2A which is escavator down so run the front he can even run a grer right now which I don't I want him to be safe he's only 20 years old so he's super teachable he listens and you know uh he's 20 years old so I understand that um so I would love to teach and I I sat both him and Mike down Mike's parttime he has the CDL license B and Ben has his B I have the a Mike doesn't have his Hydraulics as soon as he found out that there was a possibility fulltime position and opening up I pulled up the website to apply for Hydraulics licenses and he build out the application he paid the $150 for to get an appointment so he's just waiting for the appointment right now he's serious about it now so he went he worked in lever okay for a little while and they they let him go because he didn't have he didn't get his DRS license in time but he's serious about it now for him to go right on the computer like that and put 150 bucks of his own money in there I think I think he's that serious um and he when he's going for the 2A and then over the ril and I've already talked to Ben about putting it he he just spent 500 bucks I think it was to get a CDL license so he he emptied his bank account to get a CDL license so I understand if he doesn't want to pay the $75 to for the appointment but he's going to do it soon yeah um so it's Mike who's working parttime you Mike's parttime right now and he's available to um be full time I'll tell you what he stepped up last week he put in 32 hours last week to help help us out and he's going to be with us all week this week um and H and Ben just went down to dig some ditches out told me while I was great in monu Road they cleaned up all the edges of wendle so we can get it paved I mean there they're trustworthy kids I keep telling them I trust you so I had to send them back up for a couple things but you know they're 20 years old I like their I like their decorative um bump on W road I was like what is that be blown away like okay it was graffiti at first and then I realized when I looked a little closer very cute yeah I do know how who I can trust to do what um and want get in there where I can get them so that even if I wanted to take a week off one of them could do the warrants roll I sat them B down soon as I found out and I said you know if I do get the position you're going to learn how to do this job we we're all going to know everything how to make Ben's already making phone calls to the parent for the lawnmower I gave him the phone book and I said here call him up see if you can get you know find out when our lawnmower is going to be ready and he did it did it on his own phone his own cell phone so I tested him a little just to see if he would be willing to make phone calls and he was and he's the one that called Raymond all the truck asked him to do it and he did it I'm not I'm not afraid to delegate especially if they trust they can do it Ben's a farm boy he that kid he knows he's a good worker I'll tell you that kid keep saying I'm the young one let me shovel so you know you like that I like it because they're teachable you know you don't have somebody that's already there that says they know it all and then we can't teach him these kids are teachable so yeah I would love to get Mike on board they both like each other they know each other from Young ages so it's a good thing yeah uh just a question to follow up on that if you found yourself needing to recruit more people how might you do that uh that's willing to Comm in and run a small truck or they have a CDL license can they run a big truck um Ben already knows a friend of his he just he just left Point paring he knows how to plow and so I told well if I get in a position I'd like to talk to him see if be willing to be a help in win time I'd like to get two people live we could call if one can't come the other one come been short hand of course I don't like that I have to I question I have is is do you have any questions for us um um I think I will in the future I I've been thinking all week what I have um yeah I just figed you back up other my questions I have a lot of questions but'll get I think one of the things that um we haven't established yet but that we might um well I have an interest uh is in meeting with you quarterly you know every three or four months doing the same with the fire chief just to kind of hear I mean your your day-to-day contact is the Town Administrator but it's always good for the sled board to um understand you know the priorities so we can think about establishing some sort of a a schedule um we do our meetings hybrid so you can be in person or um come in be as zo so we'll be setting that up okay I bring my camera [Music] camera so he's Tey too all there's no Zoom set up on that so I just had I just went on the link from the website yeah and it came right up and I was okay I tried to download the zoom on the computer but somebody's got something in there that won't allow it to happen so I got figure out could that figure it out so next steps so next steps um if I remember correctly so next steps we would you know we we would um potentially appoint and then that would be contingent on a successful um contract negotiation and Corey check background check um I don't think I'm forgetting anything y um and the select the select board I don't know if if you've seen a draft of the contract the select board is uh has redone the contracts with added some things to the contract I brought a draft um if anyone wanted to see that I could give it to you um so I mean we have to discuss where we are you know as far as appointing that would be part of our so and then we would do the contract do the contract yeah in this case yeah okay so you're going to continue on having the full select board due contract negotiations well I think if we um yeah if we present a contract to you then whether or not there needs to be negotiations or not or whether or not it's acceptable to you the contract is acceptable then there wouldn't need to be negotiations set so always that one piece negoti um so I have a draft a full draft here um how do we want to handle so do we want to um my guess my first step would be is is do we want to discuss um appointment and then yeah head to the EP I that's what I we do yeah that was one of the things that I was GNA and I saw you had some experience with yeah five years with a Timar right and I also went to a class with Steve to the deputy Steve I have a that yeah but it's by appointment right yes but it's been written it's part of the current I superintendent job description and I did ask Mitch um his employer when I did the references and he seemed to think that um he thought your knowledge was um you pretty good having worked with them for five years knowledge of the trees and determining the disease that they have you know whether it's you know starting to die and things that have to be determined put some ribbons on trees around town that ween I'm familiar with the species some some of the species the ash Tre shape and you can tell a tree that's going to go on the road by the angle it's that inell have for power company I've already called Power Company once on a tree that I don't like on top go dirt it's already over and it's leading up on another tree it's a big tree I know exactly that tree that tree down like broken at the bottom right I pointed out to Steve one time too it we were going to talk to somebody about it but yeah I don't know what Steve had I know he had a tree company coming in for two days so I um did what I know Steve wanted done and I had him take another tree down that I put a ribbon around we were patching a hole and I saw it and I put a ribbon around that's not that's not a good treat will the power company ever take those down other words they'll take them down if they're Hazard for the power line and we have yeah the power company has an AR through and they came through already and that's why you see a lot of the trees cut the wood on the side of the road yeah there's a lot of trees that have been cut this wood on the side of the road that they did um he he's the one that put the ribbons around those and then he came in and asked us do some other trees that and so we pointed out a couple morning they C communicate with I have a number of guy for the power company he's pretty good Tre power it's saves them time and money when there's a storm and it's going down take down before the storm yeah yeah we chip wood that last time when we had all those branches come down the trees come down we chip wood from February all the way into spring there was a lot of wood chipping do you need is there an additional certification for to brought up to the full tree board you said you were Deputy had gone to a training well I just went to one of the classes that Steve had I'll about it the requirement um for the full class that Steve Took is um the town has to be over 5,000 in size um so it's not required for him to be tree Warden but if you maybe next year when you're more settled in um take the class deep took just to feel more comfortable and who offers that um it was through the I think it's the a tree boarding Association it's it was State it's a state yes okay and it was eight weeks on Wednesdays and eight whole day I've talked to the guy talk ask question gu really good no I'm sorry it's um he teaches a lot of tree but I am familiar with ha down myself just because I just got to find out what what Steve was working on and what he wasn't working on and catch up myself up with that and do we want to talk about or yeah and I typically the applicant would have it's going to be public right but you want to do it that's if you're feeling good about it just go for it yeah I mean I it's me okay so um I'm certainly in favor of appointing Dave a superintendent and a lot of the experience you had Dave and you're um sitting here in front of a camera and broadcast to shutesbury and you're very able and and very comfortable here doing that um I like the the experience that you have with different towns that you could bring in to have help us with our roads and the experience you already have here um the plans that you're outlining sound like you have a good grasp on what the needs of the roads are and um preventative rather than reactionary yeah I mean I I concur I think um having been here for 4 years so your familiarity with the equipment and understanding you know we have we have to be thinking longer term about um the equipment and upgrades and whether or not we need new equipment um your ability to sort of step in and I like your philosophy of um training the other um the other sta Highway Department staff to be able to to fill in to kind of do all of the tasks understanding ultimately it's your responsibility but in the case where somebody has to step up um I certainly believe in um you know giving responsibility as much responsibility as as possible to to younger people I I liked hearing that they'll make phone calls because I know a lot of young people won't make phone calls incling my own children so somebody replace a smart it's hard to find how it work and kids that are willing to actually [Music] find I believe I'm not the kind of guy that well I'm afraid they're going to take my position this I used to hate guys like thatte I used to get that philosophy yeah know I worked with a lot of my uncle was one of that's my back that back I don't agree with that how to run teach yeah that's a that's a great approach one of my things I've been on sa for and I don't want to be safe on the roads period guys got killed put signs out like that I also appreciate the cross training of the younger ones to learn the everyday experience in the department and having them able to take over like you said if you're on vacation or you know an expression we always use where I work is win the lottery rather than the bus um and so that that that there's a continuation of operation well you could retire some or reti so I'll be 61 in February so that's I'm noted into the but I love what I do so it's hard to something yeah he liked it told well that's the part you didn't want to do there's always one thing the CLS at midnight and you having to get up at 2 in the morning that's yeah he was pretty excited about not happening yeah I see that any I see that he did it one more year in sale sure the other guys did it yeah like just least find two more guys that will like be willing to come in and help us I came back right beginning of September end of August got it's there have been a lot of people it about same time men that I had it when it first came out the templon highway department I was working for two people came to work weren't supposed Highway super secretary obviously felt like they had to be there um and I got and I wasn't happy I didn't found out until I came here though told me anything until I came here and I was like oh that click make sense why I got it I was the one going around sanitizing everything everybody goes I can't believe you got it what you can to protect yourself so I'd like to do you have other comments anything else I was ready to make a motion Tak up taking up all good points I AG with you both okay um so I'd like to make a motion that we appoint Dave prer as the shoots shoots very Highway Department um superintendent um subject to Hy review successful contract negotiation successful cont okay okay so as soon as we get that um so you have I have a draft so I can now that we've appointed I can fill in okay in appropriate spots and then have um Don a glance over it real quick Donna being our okay great so do I hear I made the yes all those favor signifi by saying I me PE St yeah great well thank you so much for um Coming in being so well prepared um yeah we will will be back in touch very [Music] soon work with good um okay do we have any other bus I don't believe we do okay do I hear a motion to adjourn so move second all right all those in favor signify by saying I thanks so much Dave good evening con thanks thanks for rec I wasn't even consider well I'm supposed to be on mute yeah thank you Dave don't me