Are you going to give an explanation for your no? >> What? Are you going to give an explanation for your numbers? >> Just that I can't consider any circumstances. Can't uh in good conscience vote yes.
I'd >> like to call this meeting to order and let's our flag salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Madam clerk, Madam Clerk, may I have a roll call, please? >> Council member Deanis, >> here. >> Council member Dill, >> here. >> Council member Garity, >> here. >> Council member Johnston,
>> here. Council member Mcwigan >> here. >> Council member Owen >> here. >> Council President Habberghorn >> present. Also present is Mayor Tap, City Administrator Frost, City Clerk Heath, City Solicitor Smith, and City Engineer
Snider. The open public meeting statement. Pursuant to the Open Public Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided. The agenda for this meeting is posted in city hall and on the city's website. summers gov.org.
Mr. Smith, >> it's my understanding that the council uh president which is a step down from the council president uh seat and uh we need to take a uh
a vote on whether to accept that presentation. >> Everyone up here hear me? What? >> Thank you. >> Public needs to hear you as well. >> I think it's a little rude to be yelling out here. Um,
>> so if we could have a uh a vote accepting it is I suggesting it is no. >> Is this a roll call? >> Okay. Council member Dampis. >> What? >> No. I said no.
>> I would like Fel to continue. >> Vote now. >> No. >> Council member Gity, >> yes. >> Council member Johnston, >> no. >> Council member Owen, >> yes. >> Council member Dill, >> no.
>> Council member McGuigan, >> yes. >> Council member Habberghorn, >> I'm going to abstain from voting on it. >> No. There we go. >> So, what does that mean, Mr. Smith? That means you're
>> You can uh refuse to handle the meeting and allow uh President Protemp Councilman McGwigan handle the meeting or you could continue. >> Do I have the opportunity to allow Mr. McGwigan to do this meeting, remove
myself, and then get back to the council after some deliberation? >> Well, that's what you're actually doing at this point because your resignation was rejected. So I can remove myself from this meeting and then >> but can I get back to the council tomorrow if I want to stay or not?
>> You can uh if you have to come back to council we do it in session. >> Okay. So I can just to make it clear. >> Yeah. You are you are >> I can recuse myself from this meeting. >> You want to recuse yourself in the position tonight? Yep. You can sit Mr.
McWigy and uh we go from there >> and then I can get back to the council if I so choose to stay back. >> Yeah. >> Is that true? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Mr. Mcwigan, I'd like you to take the seat here tonight, please. >> Okay.
>> That was not even a All right, we're going to continue on with the meeting. Uh, would anyone like to offer any kind of communications? Mr. Mayor? >> Yeah, I have a couple things real fast.
Uh so a week ago Tuesday we had national night out at Kennedy Park and I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who put this event on you know particularly uh Kate McKenzie and Amanda Forshaw you know Summers Point Police
Department uh the Summers Point PAL. We have the uh Summers Point Fire Companies one and two uh Summers Point OEM as well as Summers Point uh public works. It was a uh it was a great event. It was
always good to see the public come out, walk around Kennedy Park and uh and and really do what we were supposed to do. You end up meeting people, talking to people, and I just thought that it was a very uh like I said, it was a very good event. Uh, and I got one more thing, you
know, and and as we know, it's heartbreaking, but speaking for the city of Summers Point residents, I can only state that we are deeply saddened by the tragic accident here in town, which involved an ebike and a motor vehicle that resulted in the fatality. Our hearts go out to
the family and loved ones affected by this loss. As summer brings increased traffic, as we know, you know, we live here, we deal with this traffic all the time and all the activity in the community. I just urge everybody, the motorists, bikers, pedestrians to stay
vigilant, pay attention, and be mindful of one another on the roads. Observe all the motor vehicle uh please observe all motor vehicles, bikes, pedestrian laws, and safety guidelines. They're in place to protect everyone. you know, together we can prevent future
tragedies. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, city administrator. >> Uh, nothing to report this evening. Thank you, >> Mr. Schmidt. Thank you, Mr. Schneider.
>> The, uh, Shore Road pedestrian project continues. Um by Monday the work in front of the Dolls Avenue school on Shore Road should be complete and then they're moving to Bethl Road and Shore to complete that work before school starts for um St. Joe's. That's a
priority so we don't have traffic back up for school start. And then next Thursday we'll be receiving bids for the 2025 road program and New Jersey Avenue. They will rebid. >> That's next week you said. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Yeah.
Uh how about on on the Route 9 uh paving? >> The contract was awarded by the state. They're repaving from Summers Point Main Landing Road um through the city. Um I asked the water company. I had a pre-construction meeting with them today
if they're responsible for doing some more temporary paving where there's, you know, large patches and stuff like that because originally they were required to do that. Um, they said the state of New Jersey said that they their contract's going to take care of it and they're only responsible for
doing smaller patches, but I'm hoping everything can get done before the winter because that'll be a mess. >> Okay. It's that you don't have a start date or anything at this point. >> No, they they had a pre-construction meeting with the state that was a couple weeks ago. Um, so the contractor is did
have their notice to proceed. So, they're uh also installing sidewalks along Route 9 where it's missing. Yeah. >> So, that'll be the first step. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Uh would anyone like to offer any committee reports? >> Uh yes, I have um
>> please >> committee report. Last night, the historical commission met uh we had two applications. Um they approved both of them. One was for uh 731 Bay Avenue. Uh it's an office commercial property. It's
going they're going to tear it, demolish it, and um rebuild a very nice building there that is also going to be looks like retail on the first floor and maybe condos or something on the second floor.
Um nice new building. So they will be heading to the planning board for some things that they need. I think it's planning next. Um in 911 Bay Avenue um they um got approved for a remodel.
Um so they're they're going to be starting their um their remodel as soon as they get everything approved that they need. But the historical commission did approve both projects with some minor changes. uh this group is very good at keeping
the roof lines consistent and uh few other things. So they they did agree to a few changes but um approved both projects. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other committee reports?
>> I'd like to make a couple notes uh on the uh recreation. Uh, I'd like to publicly thank Eastern Signs, Mike and uh, Wendy Franklin who are operators of that business, donated a sign that uh, if you have a chance is on the outside
of the uh, how building or the youth center building uh, denoting it as the Eva Anderson uh, youth center and and you'll see how very attractive that is and uh, it was very generous of them and I'd like to publicly thank them.
The other thing is the uh the uh we have been working environmental commission as well as uh uh the green team with Mr. held big uh on a a proposed uh nature trail out near the DeFao Lane property.
And we had a grant that uh supported the design and that design is very close to being uh completed and our next steps will be uh discussing strategies for uh funding that project. And uh we will
need to we're going to need to talk to uh adjacent property owner about some easements for where this property where this uh trail is going to butt out a little bit. Uh and that is an ongoing thing and I just wanted to bring it up here. Any other committee reports? At
this point I'd like to bring forth uh from the consent agenda uh uh resolution 190 uh madame clerk please. Resolution number 190 of 2025 amending
appointments harbor master and deputy management coordinators namely Mike Kediora. >> Thank you. Uh I'll first ask to open the public for any comment specifically on resolution 190. If I can get a motion to do that.
>> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> Opposed. All right. uh open to public comment specifically on 190. If you'd like to come forth and address us, please do so
at this time. >> Motion to close the public portion on second. >> 190. >> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. Means now close the public comment. We'll go to 190. I would need a motion for that. >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Motion's been made and second. Any comments? I would like to make a comment, please. Um, I just want to say, um, Mr. Kizadora is a really good Harvard master. He's down there on our Bay Avenue every single day. Any least little thing that's going wrong, he
makes us aware of. So, I'm glad to see this. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other comments? Yes. Mr. Kiora never hesitates to volunteer and and I appreciate his service to this community. All those in favor?
>> Opposed? Resolution 190 carries. Did uh Mr. Mayor, are you prepared to swear him in? >> Actually, Shelby is going to >> Okay, great. >> While he's coming up, I'd also like to acknowledge our two other members of OEM, Jack Shields and Captain Phil
Gaffne back there. So I state your name. I, Michael E. do solemnly swear >> do solemnly swear >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> that I will support the Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey
>> and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey >> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same >> and the government established in the United States >> and the governments established in the United States >> and in this state >> and in this state
>> under the authority of the people >> under the authority party of the people >> and that I will faithfully >> and that I will faithfully >> impartially >> impartially >> and justly >> and justly >> perform all the duties >> perform all the duties >> of the office of deputy eman emergency management coordinator
>> of the deputy deputy emergency management coordinator >> according to the best of my abilities >> according to the best of my abilities thanks thank you All right. So, we have uh approval of minutes. We have the regular meeting
minutes of uh both July 10th as well as the executive session of that same day. I get a motion to include those two sets of >> I'll make that motion. Second. >> Motion's been made in seconds. Any comments? >> Hearing none. All those in favor?
>> I opposed. >> Those minutes are approved. I want to make a couple little changes before you keep moving here. Uh we need to pull resolution 189 which was awarding uh multisport surfaces for
street hockey courses. We we don't have any quotations, so we're going to have to step back and figure our next steps on that. I'd like to move uh 192, which is a memorandum of agreement
with the PBA out of the consent agenda. Uh because I will have to recuse myself from that. Uh, and do you want 195 discussed, Mr. Mayor? >> No, we don't have to leave there. >> You can leave there. >> Okay. Uh,
all right. So, we have two ordinances with both of which are second reading. Ordinance number 15, please, madam clerk. >> Ordinance number 15 of 2025. An ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 114 development regulations article 28 Summers Point Historic
Preservation Commission. >> Mr. McWillian. >> Yes, sir. >> I'd like to have a council consider a motion to amend. It's uh per Mr. Rutala's uh recommendation
on uh section one paragraph G. read as follows. The commission shall conduct, maintain and expand when appropriate a comprehensive survey of the city to identify historic landmarks and historic districts that are worthy
of protection and preservation. And after we worked on that, he then uh thought that he might want to have some additional language. So it continues to be as well as recommend city council the designation of
buildings, structures, sites, projects, improvements as local historic landmarks to recommend the designation of local historic districts that request Mr.
Okay. Anyone have an issue with that? I would need a motion to amend ordinance number 15 as noted by Mr. Smith. >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> Motion's been made in second to amend. Any comments? All those in favor?
>> I opposed. All right. Ordinance number 15 has been amended. So now we would need to uh unless there's any other comments, I would ask that a motion be made to open the public for a hearing. >> I'll make that motion. >> A second.
>> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. All right. The meeting is now open to public comment. If you wish to address us with regards uh to ordinance 15, please come forth at this time. >> Motion closed. Public comment.
>> Second. Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> I I >> opposed. All right. The meeting is now closed to public comment. Any comments on ordinance number 15 at this time? >> I would need a motion to adopt. >> I'll make that motion.
>> Second. >> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. Ordinance number 15 is now adopted, which brings us to ordinance number 16. Please, Madam Clerk. >> Ordinance number 16, 2025, an ordinance
enacting a continuing education incentive program for the city of Summers Point's Fire Department's firefighters. Uh, this is a second reading and uh, any comment before I ask to open it public? I need a motion to open the public.
>> I'll make that motion. Second. >> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. The meeting is now open to public comment with regards to ordinance number 16. If you wish to address us on ordinance number 16, please come forth at this time.
>> Motion to close public portion on ordinance 16. >> Second. >> Motion has been made and second. All those in favor? >> Opposed? Meaning now closed the public comment. Any further comment on number 16? Council >> President. >> Yes, sir. >> I'm all in favor of high higher
education. whatever whatever we can do to help out our fire department, you know, it's it's no-brainer. I mean, we we got to support them. Whatever whatever it takes. So, >> absolutely. Thank you for that, Mr. Owen. >> Any other comments?
>> Yeah, Council President, sir. Uh >> I pretty much want to say the same thing that uh Mr. Owen did. Uh this is just a second step. First step was we had a payforr run ordinance passed for as an incentive to to continue to get more
volunteers and that has been successful. We're hoping that this ordinance will not only educate the u current volunteer firemen but also attract um new volunteer firemen because there will be incentives to uh to attend school will
be which will be paid by the city upon its completion. Thank you. >> Thank you Mr. D, any other comments? >> Yeah, if I could just say I agree with both the statements and also think the most important part of this is that um
safety and the more education our firefighters have, the safer they'll be. >> Thank you. >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. resol excuse me, ordinance number 16 is now adopted,
which will bring us into the uh resolution portion of of the agenda. Uh and before we address the resolutions, I'd like to open the public for comments specifically on the resolutions on the agenda tonight. I can get a motion to do so. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second.
>> Motion's been made in second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. All right. All right. The meeting is now open to public comment. If you wish to address us specifically on the resolutions on the agenda tonight, please come forth at this time. State your name and address of your
residents for the record. >> Patricia Patricia Pearson, 587 Marks Road, Summers Point. Um, let me get this straight here. First of all, on the one at the Gateway Theater
for the roof, who's paying for the roof of the Gateway Theater? >> That's a uh public uh that's a city building. The city will be paying for that. >> Say what? >> That is a city building owned by the city and the city will >> taxpayers are going to pay for it, right? >> Yes. >> Okay.
>> Unless we we you know, we're always looking for grants. So, >> all right. Now, um, this appointment of a public private partnership, is that for the new city hall? >> That's for a, uh, uh, exploring the
possibility of entering into a private public partnership. And that gentleman, the attorney, will uh, guide us on that or advise us on that. And that is one option that we are looking at. Yes. >> Does the public know it?
>> I'm sorry. Does the public voters do well? We're already at a public meeting. So, yes. >> Okay. So, this is a public private partnership where uh the public city hall. Okay. You want to get a partner to build a new city hall. Is that right?
>> Uh it's so many words. Yes. >> Okay. Just wanted to check that one out. >> Yeah. It's a Listen, it's going to be a unique but I think it's an attractive uh opportunity or option rather. Uh, but we do need to explore it and and and uh learn more about it before we do make
that decision. >> Well, thank thank you for being honest and I'm glad that the public now knows that we may be getting a new city hall with public private partnership because when I was sitting over there five minutes ago, I wasn't sure. All right.
Now, when uh resolution 184 185 186, where are all these lots? 184 is uh uh 184 185 is 90 Broadway. >> 90 Broadway. Okay.
>> Quite frankly, th those two resolutions are correct in a typographical error. >> Okay. One other thing. Uh who's paying for the hockey courts? >> Well, we pulled that so nobody will pay for it right now. >> Okay. All right. Matt, no problem. who
is um the other thing is executive session. I know it's executive session and everything, but I want to tell you something. There better be a a a walkway from down Goth Avenue to the bay. There better be,
>> as you know, that's that's a discussion of litigation. It would be improper for us to address that or even comment on that. >> All right, I hear you. But there better be a walkway. And the other thing, well, I'll save it for public comment. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> Look at that rain out there. >> Look at that rain out there. It's like >> uh when do you guys expect to uh >> Sir, if you could state your name and and address for the record. >> No, thank you. Um >> I'm sorry. That's our That's our policy here. >> No, no, >> they don't need to uh address you then.
>> What's that? >> They don't need to address you. >> It's my time. >> You have to state your name. >> No, I don't. I don't have to give my name on her address. >> No, I do not. >> No, I do not. this council. >> This is my time. >> This is my time. >> And I want to know when this city hall
is going to be uh built. >> Transparency. >> Transparency. >> I'm a member of the public. You guys are public servants. You guys have your names posted. I have a right to my fourth amendment right. >> This is the same guy was yelling at you. >> When When was I yelling at you?
>> When was I yelling at you? >> So, here we go, sir. It's transparency. >> Push over there. who you may be connected to when you come up and give a speech. >> Just like council has to be transparent and identify >> I'm a member of the public
>> and and as is everyone else. >> Yes, I know. >> People out on the street, but you come to a council, you're going to address a council and part of the rules for council are you have to identify. >> It's unconstitutional, brother. >> No, it's not. >> Yes, it is. >> And I I also have there's also there's also case law on this.
>> I I I've looked at >> you have >> Yes, sir. It's the same It's the same law why officers don't have to give their name and address or city. Did you know did you know that? Did you know that, sir? >> I don't think we need >> I think we need to move. I think we need to move.
>> So, can I have my time? I'm asking I'm asking for my time. Chair, >> you need to address. >> Listen, you need we we have there's a certain decorum here and we have a policy in place. >> You have a policy. Your policy is unconstitutional. Well, we you're going
to I can't debate near you the Constitution. >> You guys took an oath to the Constitution. One one was just taken right here in front of us this today. >> And I take that oath very seriously. >> Do you? Do you though? I have a right to
my Fourth Amendment. Do I not? >> I'm a private citizen. >> Fourth Amendment is due process. >> Fourth Amendment's due process. >> Yeah. >> So I don't I don't have I I don't have to give my ID, right? >> You had to look it up. You're the city attorney. >> I I I I'm not sure.
>> Can I have my time? >> Are you? >> Can I have my time? >> Nope. >> Three minutes are up. >> Thank you. >> It's my time. >> It's my time to speak. >> State your name and address for record. >> Uh Garden State Accountability, New
Jersey. Thank you. That's my DBA. >> Nope. >> No, no, >> no, no. I I stated my name and address. Listen, we're going to move on with the meeting. You can sit down or, you know, we're going to take steps to move this meeting
along. >> I I just want my time. That's all I want. >> State your name and address for the record. >> I already did. I already did. >> No, you did not. >> You already used this three minutes anyway. >> Didn't start while you were arguing. >> I want to see the I want to see the clock because I haven't even started.
Right. >> You're John Do. >> There you go. Thank you. >> Thank you. Just a a little bit of here. >> Can I have my time? >> State your name and address for the record. >> No, sir. >> No. No.
>> I I'm going to push the envelope. >> Okay. I >> I have the right to speak. >> This is a public meeting. >> I have the right to speak. >> Do I not? >> State your name and address for the record. We have policies in place in place. I'm not sure what the problem is.
Your policy is unconstitutional. >> I've been to meetings all over Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania. >> You just went next door. >> I know. >> Yeah, >> they did. Can >> Can I have my time? >> You did.
>> We have somebody on their way. Okay. >> No. >> This is crazy. Unconstitutional. >> Here we go. Resolution. Can you >> microphone? >> What? >> Not not on you, Lebe. On the uh
>> Why don't you take that that piece off that he placed on there? >> Can you tell me what it is? >> I'm trying to help you out, man. >> I I I gave you an out. Like they're not going to follow up on who you are or
where you're from. So he in fairness. >> Listen listen. >> Yes. I apologize for addressing the crowd, council chair, >> and please note that we're only talking about resolution right now. >> Absolutely. And I I hope for the record, please. >> Levi Fox, 90 Broadway.
>> I apologize if I have to use my one time to talk today for something that I don't think is relevant. And I do apologize if it seems as if I'm adding to the stress of anybody on the dis right now. But why are we making this acrimonious?
I understand that he's not following this resolution. >> I don't know what this guy wants to say about the resolution and I'm curious about that resolution too cuz I didn't know it was on it and Pat made a very good point that it's not transparent. So, if we're arguing about transparency,
then we just found out what this was. >> As you know, we're going to have another comment session where you can stand up and talk about any city business or city related business. You can do that at this time, but I'm asking you to be specific about the resolutions.
>> Sure. Thank you. What's on the agenda today? >> Come on now. >> Pardon me. >> You must have had something to speak about. My honestly the only thing I got up here to talk about was the fact that this gentleman had an actual question
and rather than addressing the substance of his question, we debated him for three minutes so the time would run out so that he would not be able to ask the question and I again understand that >> again it's about resolutions. You can get back up and and and we can reenter that conversation if you like. Please.
Well, that's why I was looking to see a resolution that I might comment on since I'm already standing up here and then you decided that >> Go ahead. >> I I was trying to You broke my concentration. >> Oh, come on. >> Does my 3 minutes start now?
>> No, it's already running. >> How How is that fair if I have not been able >> As soon as you got up and stated your name, your time started. >> I'm not I'm not sure what we're looking to accomplish, but come on. We're trying. We got a lot of stuff on the agenda here and a lot of people here want to speak.
Yes. And the people des all all the people deserve to speak. I believe that. And uh I got I got I'll be I'll be back up here once I'm able to gather my thoughts. >> All right. Good deal. Thank you. >> I'm not done. How incompetent does this
council have to be that they have to undo a resolution to redo a resolution one month later that we have to come all the way back here and this has to be on the agenda again? You want me to find a resolution to talk about, John? That's the resolution I talk about. How about that?
>> I'm assuming you asked a rhetorical question, so >> Okay, hold on. I'll take I'll take the fall on that one. >> I don't want you to take the fall on that one, Tom. This is ridiculous. >> I want the council. This is freaking ridiculous. >> Come on. >> It's a waste of time.
>> Yeah, that I'm sorry that this isn't wasting a one hour a week that some that you guys are up here. >> All right. Thank you. >> Oh, thank you. And I say thank you. >> Okay, >> I don't see anybody else moving. Could I
get a motion to close? >> You I'll make that motion. I'll second. >> Motion's been made and second. All those in favor? I I >> opposed. All right. The meeting is now closed to public comment with regards to the resolutions. Let's address resolution
number 181, please, madam clerk. >> Resolution number 181 of 2025. Resolution authorizing the execution of a contract renewing membership in the Atlanta County Municipal Joint Insurance Fund. >> I would need a motion.
>> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made and second. any comments? >> Uh, Mr. Chairman, I do have a comment on this. Uh, a lot of you up here know my feeling and uh frustrations with the GIFs sometimes and everything.
>> Uh, when we entered in with the GIF back in the 1990s, they were the only game in town. I believe there's 23 GIFs in the state of New Jersey now. >> Almost. >> Uh, in three years, I think maybe it'd be wise uh, same thing you do at home,
shop around on your homeowners insurance. I think maybe we have somebody take a peek, take a look, compare because we really have no benchmark here of what to go by, you know, and I'm not saying they've done a bad job. Uh I'm just saying that, you
know, we do that on everything else, our professionals and things like that that we do shop and compare prices that maybe in 3 years it's something we ought to look at. Maybe there's a cost savings. >> I thought we did do that, Mr. >> No. No, >> that's health insurance.
>> Health insurance. >> Health insurance. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you're advocating shop around in three years with >> Yeah. Three years. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I have no problem with renewing their >> I appreciate that. That's a good point. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Any other comments? >> I agree with Mr. Garrett. If we could go ahead and start shopping that out the
next time around, I think it'd be worth a while. >> Thank you. All those in favor? >> Opposed. >> All right. Uh 80 181 carries, which brings us to 182.
>> Resolution number 182 of 2025, appointment of public private partnership redevelopment council. >> Thank you. We need a motion. >> So move. >> Second. >> Motion's been made second. Any comments? >> Hearing none. All those in favor?
>> Opposed? Number 182 carries. Please branches to 183. Madam clerk, >> resolution number 183 of 2025. resolution authorizing the chief financial officer of the city of Summers Point in the county of Atlantic, state of New Jersey, and other city officials
to undertake certain action in connection with the sale and issuance of not to exceed $13 million bond anticipation notes series 2025 and approving a continuing disclosure undertaking with respect to said notes
of the city and authorizing and/or ratifying other actions in connection therewith. Thank you. >> I'll make a motion. A second. >> Motion's been made in a second. Any comments? >> Hearing none. Can we have a roll call
vote? >> Council member Depampilis, >> yes. >> Council member Dill, >> yes. >> Council member Gerity, >> yes. >> Council member Johnston, >> yes. >> Council member Owen, >> yes. >> Council member Habercorn,
>> yes. Council President Promp Mcwagen. >> Yes. 183 passes. Brings us to 184. Please, Madam Clerk. Resolution number 184 of 2025, a resolution rescending resolution
169 of 2025, which authorized the execution and delivery of a redevelopment agreement between the city of Summers Point and Excellar Building Solutions LLC for the proposed development of block 2018 lots 1.01,
1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 1.05, 1.08, 2.02, 1.06, 06 and 1.07. >> We need a motion. >> I make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made in a second. Any comments?
>> Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> 184 uh passes, which brings us to resolution 185. Please, Madam Clerk. Resolution number 185 of 2025, a resolution authorizing the execution and
delivery of a redevelopment agreement for the proposed development of block 2018 lots 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 1.05, 1.08, 2.02, 1.06, and 1.07.
>> Thank you. We need a motion. >> I'll make that motion. Second. Motion's been made a second. Any comments? Hearing none. All those in favor? >> Opposed? Resolution 185 carries, which brings us
to 186, please. Mad. Resolution number 186 of 2025 authorizing executive session advice of council and attorney client communication regarding the status of property assessment litigation in the tax court involving the city
entitled Powersports Holdings LLC vers city of Summers Point and JH Restaurant Holdings LLC having a docket number of ATL- C-00000078-24. We need a motion for that. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second.
>> Motion's been made and second. Any comments? >> All those in favor? >> Opposed? 186 carries. We will uh go into an executive session after we finish the agenda. Uh we do not anticipate taking
any action coming out of that, but you are welcome to stay in the lobby and we'll come get you. 187, please. Resolution number 187 of 2025 authorizing executive session advice of council and attorney client privilege
communication regarding the status of litigation involving the city entitled GH Restaurant Holdings LLC GH Restaurant Enterprises Gary M. Holloway verse the city of Summers Point having a docket number of ATL- C-37-25.
>> I would need a motion. I'll make that motion. Second. >> Motion's been made and second. Any comments? Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> 187. Karen, which brings us to 188,
please, Madam Clerk. >> Resolution number 188 of 2025, approving proposals, goods and services 2025. >> We need a motion. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made in second. Any comments
hearing? None. All those in favor? >> I >> oppose motion, excuse me, resolution 188 uh P uh passes. I now need to address 192 and I would uh need to recuse myself from
that is as I'm a proud father of a police officer here and I would ask that Mr. Abricorn come out of the pool plan and hand on 192 for us. >> All right. Uh I have a motion first. You have to read it.
>> Resolution number 192 of 2025 memorandum of agreement police benevolent association. >> Have a motion. Some move. Have a second. >> I have a second. >> Second. >> Any comments?
>> Yes, council. Uh city council. Uh I also have a conflict of interest and will be recusing myself from the vote. As a matter of fact, uh one of the one of the people one of my my one of the uh one of my sons, excuse me, I just got back I
just got back from vacation. Um I uh my my son happens to be a sergeant and uh I will recuse myself from this vote. >> Any other comments? Not hearing any. All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? And hearing any opposed?
That carries. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Havocorn. >> Back to you, Mr. McGan. >> We will now address the uh consent agenda, uh which includes uh point 191,
uh 193, and 194 and 195. I have a motion for the consent agenda. So motion second. >> Motion's been made and second. Any comments hearing? None. All those in favor? >> I
>> opposed. All right. The consent agenda is uh approved. Uh which brings us to old business. Would anyone like to address old business? Okay. So, new business. We received a letter from the Harbor View Condo
Association with regards to residential parking or residential permanent parking. proposed residential permit parking there. Would anyone like to comment on that uh letter? >> Yes, I would. Thank you. >> Yes, sir.
>> Um, this is in uh response to the major construction going on across the street from Harbor View. Um, >> can let you uh talk about that, Councilman. You reside there. >> Well, I can explain it, can you? Just
>> I'm not going to vote on it. I'm just explaining it. You can explain, but let's keep it very limited, please. >> Would you would you like me to explain it? >> I understand. >> Harborview condo would like to uh uh experience some of the um
permit parking that exists on some of the main streets in Summers Point. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else want to comment on that? >> Could I ask Mr. Depampilolis a question? >> Sure.
Yeah. Do you have any idea how many parking spots they need the for permanent parking >> or are you looking condo has a parking area in the back in between all the condos? >> Yeah, I'm familiar with it. I lived
there years ago >> and uh they provide one spot. Some of the people in there have a second car and it's getting more difficult all the time to park on the street Bay Avenue
and also on Pleasant because of all that construction and the anticipation of the Paddle Club opening and the new homes. Um, >> so the condo association, not you, >> not me,
>> are are looking for some parking spots that probably encompass the property boundary lines on Bay Avenue Pleasant and >> Sunrise. Yes, that's all. Just in front of the buildings. >> All right. And I understand the need for
that. >> Thank you. >> Was that generic enough for you, Mr. Smith? with that question. >> Well, who who has to look at does that >> since we're in flux here? Uh I'm assuming I I know that there's a a a
park traffic and parking committee. Uh I'm not quite sure who's on that, but uh I my suggestion is that that subcommittee review this study it and uh come back with a recommendation. >> Who else is who is committas?
Well, that would be a bad one. >> We already know he's a >> I think we'll have to address a different member on there. >> Who else is on it? >> I don't have my list with me. I'm >> cuz I don't know if I'm if I'm not on it. I would volunteer myself. >> I believe
>> I believe that we're going to have to establish a ad hoc committee this year to look at that. >> Well, we have we have a parking committee. >> We have a parking committee. >> No, we don't. Not. Oh, we don't. >> That's why I'm suggesting we have an ad
hoc committee. >> So, uh, you don't. >> All right. I would hear anyone else. >> I'd be happy to be on that, too. >> I would I would love to be on it. >> Great. >> Okay. We have our We have our ad hoc
committee that's going to address the proposed parking permit parking along around uh Harvey. Council member Johnston, would you be so kind as to set up the meeting for that, please? >> I definitely will. Thank you. >> Thank you. Council Temp. >> Yes, sir. >> I just have one other question. Sure.
>> Uh, how many spots are they looking for? >> Do we have any information? >> I think I think we can research that and we'll get into all that. >> I'm sorry. >> I Sorry. >> I'm sorry. I can research that with the condo association. We'll see exactly what they're looking for. I think we need to talk to them. >> Yeah. I just
>> so we don't get Mr. Deanas in any more trouble. >> Okay. That's fine. Thank you. >> All right. We also uh new business approval of uh Richard Summers Park uh for the Liberty and Prosperity Organization for an event to
honor Richard Summers on September 4th from 300 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. Anybody have an issue with that? >> I have a comment. This is um a great event every year. It's actually very
entertaining as well as educational. So if anybody that can be there, you should try and be there. It's a good history lesson. So any other comments? >> All right. So it's predicated on them supplying the insurance and meeting
those insurance requirements which you'll take care of. >> All in favor? I. >> Anybody opposed? Okay, we give them approval. Any other new business?
Discussion of the bills, Mr. Frost. Yes. Uh this evening we have a record of payment in the amount of 2,600 uh excuse me 68,5673. We have an additional bill list in the amount of 1,910,961.31. Any
comments or questions with regards to the bills? >> All right. Could I have a motion to open to the public? >> I have a motion. I'll second that. Mr. De >> motion be made a second. All those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Okay. The committee is now open to
public comment. If you wish to address us, please come forth and state your name and address. >> Big head. >> For the record. Please note that we're we're going to talk about city council business road. >> Who is going to be the council for the
public uh okay >> partnership? >> Who's going to be the council for the redevelopment? >> The the name of the firm is Spiro uh >> Nelson >> Nelson and Spiro Harrison Nelson. >> Okay. So you already have one. Okay. Now
this is going to sound upsetting, but I don't mean it that way. I really don't I feel that the council Tom Smith is disrespecting the public us because he keeps his back to the public and talks
to you because you're his clients. I understand that. However, just let me say Roger Steed used to sit here talk to the whole audience and it's council. Lafery would do the same thing. It's very difficult for people like us to sit
here and he's talking to you and we can't hear one word. We don't know what's going on. And I respectfully request that you get together and figure out some way where the audience can be included. Thank you very much for that one. Sorry to have to say that, but it's
really bad. Now, um this is another one though regarding lawsuits on council and the city and whatever is le are leadership roles are uh are
you could is the leadership role a good thing to have when you have there might be a lawsuit hanging on your back. Is that a good thing? And is it respectable and is it right for the general public >> at council? Could you please answer
that? >> Well, you're addressing the chair. That that sounds somewhat like a rhetorical question if you want to be specific. >> No, I didn't record anything. >> I just was just what I mean I swear to God >> rhetorical. >> I don't know what you're talking about. I just was asking. Nobody as I wanted to
know. I said, "What's going on here?" Mr. Habcoin who's Lily White. He he sits down and now we got problems. That's all. That's all. >> Okay, >> that's all. >> All right, your point's been made. >> So, the point is Mr.
these three or him or whoever? But I mean, really, really, are we going to be embarrassed again by something? >> Okay, you you've made your point. >> All right, that's a point. All right. And I I I wanted to make that point. All right. Now, um
the other thing is uh I want the uh the mayor to be kind to the beach concert, the best in the country. I want you to be kind. It's not coming up now. Be coming up next year. But I want you
to be kind and remember how good it is and how good it was last Saturday night and how perfect it was. >> Friday night. Good for the whole town. >> Last Friday night you're talking about >> a Friday night. Yeah. I'm sorry. So, okay. Thank you.
>> For the record, the mayor is one of the kindest men I know. >> Yeah. Hi. Um, my name is Gary Papa. Oh, first of all, thank you, mayor and council for allowing me to speak today. Uh, my name is Gary Papa at 25 West Groveland Avenue. I'm a member of the
local US Coast Guard Auxiliary. Um, one of the things we learned very quickly is if we see something, we say something. So, I'm here to say something regarding the incident that took place on Thursday, July 17th, 2025. A 14-year-old boy named Jack Sullivan died because of
injuries sustained at the intersection of Maryland Avenue and the bike path. Uh this unfortunate uh circumstance has brought to light recently a renewed awareness for increasing safety regarding kids wearing helmets, ebike
rules, bicycle safety, road and path safety enhancements. Uh tonight I come to you to present signatures of 111 people concerned citizens that use our bike path for
walking, riding, taking their dogs, taking their kids out. Um we would like to see two stop signs installed at Maryland Avenue and the bike path for both eastbound and westbound for vehicle traffic.
The other part of that safety issue is Groveland Avenue and the bike path which has been neglected. Um we are also requesting additional stop signs um at Groveland Avenue and the bike path
uh just after crossing to kind of mirror the other intersections along the bike path. It's usually a double stop when you after you cross over. Groveland only has one. People do accelerate after going through the first one and that
takes them over the path quicker. Um the additional signages will help reduce the risk of pedestrians on the path getting hurt and reduce it reduce the chance of future accidents. Um, since all this has happened, I also
I have a picture of the demog where we would like the two stop signs. I'll pass that along along with the signatures u for you folks. U I did speak to the bicycle bike and New Jersey bike and walk coalition who have provided some brochures. They said
they have more. there's more to be had if you folks need them or they are available if to be passed out for the kids or the parents to try to make this a little bit more safer for everybody. Um and also finally regarding that topic
we would also like to find out u when we can expect a response and who to follow up with or what the next steps will be. And if there's anything that I can do to help, please contact me. Do not hesitate to contact me regarding this. I'm here to help. So that is
>> Thank you. Let me just say this and and I'll be very careful here that uh the loss of life particularly someone that young is always tragic and that's a very tragic situation and may that uh uh void rest in eternal peace. Um it is a
ongoing investigation over there. So it would be improper for us to uh state anything or or make any comment at this point. But I appreciate your uh interest and your passion for that. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh the second issue, I have two today because I happen to call a city
about an issue. Um I live on Groveland Avenue and this is the current parking situation on Groveland Avenue. There is no parking for the residents because of uh the Atlantic Care primary and the
Atlantic Care urgent care. The staff and patients are taking up 100% of the parking on our street. I've contacted both the urgent care and I've contacted the PCP and they basically said it's up to you folks to help. I've already
I've been kind of turned down. So what we would like on that as I'm going to propose this as my other issue is that we have permit parking or residential parking from at Shore Road to Atlantic for Groveland Avenue. So I would like to
also present that. >> Okay. So it's since we're addressing that I'm going to ask that committee that's been formed here to look at your situation as well. I will note that the urgent care has two full parking lots though. >> Wait, I'm sorry. I mean,
>> the urgent care in there has two full parking lots. >> Yeah, they have two parking lots, but they're not using them. The staff pull in at 8:00 and they park in the neighborhood and I'm looking I can see the empty lots and they're just not using them. I asked them to use them and they said people can park wherever they want. They basically threw it back at me
and the only place I need to go here at council. So, that's why >> we can have a conversation for that and if I can help in this situation also, I would be glad to help out. the the mayor has indicated that we we'll talk to the chief of police about that and perhaps we'll uh you know make make an informal
visit down there and see what's going on. >> Can I present that to you first? >> Yeah, please give it to Mr. Frost here and he'll just he'll uh I'll ask that he distributes that to the rest. >> The second one that was all related to the first one. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for that. >> Thanks. Y
>> please state your name and address for the record. uh for the city attorney. Uh Daniel's law is the law that applies here. So, please look that up before my time starts. And I'd like to get my time back for what happened before your name. You don't need to No, sir. Address, sir.
>> No. No, sir. >> I'm very familiar with Daniel's law. Very familiar with it, sir. You've worked extensively with >> my DBA is Garden State Accountability. >> I think you're incorrect, sir. And I'll recommend that to my client that he is incorrect in that position. I mean
otherwise I'm going to have to file a tort. So I don't want to do that. I just like to go on. I mean more litigation to come to this this city. I don't want that to happen. I just want to speak. That's it. >> Are you registered Daniel? >> Am I register? You don't have to
register for Daniel's law. You just have to be immediate. >> That's incorrect. >> That's that is >> that is incorrect. >> Okay. >> That's incorrect. I'll advise council. Incorrect. Need to advertise. You guys are opening yourselves up to a lawsuit. >> That's fine. >> All right. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. No. So, um, >> and please state your name and address for the >> No, I'm not going to state my name. >> I I just want your job is to sit here and listen to us. >> Just that that's that's your job. When does my time start? >> Raise your when as soon as you state
your name. When you raise your voice, that doesn't make it. >> This is my time to speak. >> All right. You don't have to yell for >> Yeah, but you're not listening. This is my time. I'm covered under Daniel's law. Let's go. >> I've been advised. >> It's 3 minutes, right? 3 minutes of your time. >> 3 minutes of your time, brother.
>> When does it start? >> When does it start? >> State your name, >> sir. >> Vinnie. >> Police. >> Vinnie. >> You need a last name. >> No. No last name. >> We have the police back there. >> I own a house over here. You look at my name, my first and last name. You can do
a public information request at the town hall and look up my property address. That is not that's not covered under Daniel's law. Stop that. Stop that. >> All right. We >> If I give my name, you look up my name
and then you find out where I live through the property records here in this town. That's all I'm going to give you. Is that not a fact? >> Gentleman's incorrect. We file for Daniel's law and and we redact that
information from the property record card information the assessor's office as well as the collector's office. It's public information >> and since I do a lot of tax work, I can tell you work with a lot of municipalities and that is work and there was some litigation just
presently dealing with the fact that that they move to to companies that want to ascertain who resides where. They actually want to excuse me find the statute unconstitutional that was thrown
out and every place you look on on the computer if I want to go into NJ's a house lock and lock they redacted all the information >> I can pull it up on Google. >> So I'm just uh telling you that uh
>> it's that it's that simple. >> Google Google has that information. >> Excuse me. >> You may redact it but other people can still see the information. records that are if if this gentleman has filed here in the town for his property, it's been redacted down to the assessor's office. So, no one's going to be able to open
his property record card and get his name or information. >> So, I like my three minutes. >> As soon as you state your name, >> I stated my name. I said my name is Vinnie. >> Would you three minutes? >> My name is Benjamin Franklin.
I have I have uh I have the right. Do I am Am I three minutes? Am I Am I good to go? Benjamin Franklin. That's my name. >> No. >> No. >> John Doe. Am I good to go? >> How far are we going to take this? I just want my three minutes. >> I I just want your name for the record.
>> Benjamin Franklin. >> Please. Sorry. You know, >> John Doe, >> you don't you don't need to make a mockery. There's plenty of people. >> I'm trying to prove a point here. All I want I have a speech that's already written. >> All right. your point. >> All right. >> I I have a speech. It's already written. I'd like to just do my speech and be out
of here. You guys are wasting the time of the people here. >> He's making people uncomfortable. >> The police aren't reacting here. >> We haven't asked. Do you want them to react? >> No, I don't. I I would like. >> Neither do I. >> This is not Nazi Germany. >> Of course.
>> You are not my fueler. >> No. Please, sir. Now you're being offensive. >> Well, this is You're being offensive to me. I have the right to speak. It's my three minutes. I'd like to speak. >> Please sit down. >> Or what? >> There's no I didn't >> I just want my three minutes. That's all
I want. >> I'm asking you to sit down so we can continue with the public meeting. >> Sir, I just I would just like three minutes. >> State your name. >> Benjamin Franklin. Do Do you want to see ID to see if it is or isn't because Do
you want to see it or No. Yeah. >> I gave you a name. I gave you my name. >> No. >> No. >> What town do you reside, sir? >> That's none of your business. >> I gave you my name. >> We need that.
>> You're opening yourself up to a lawsuit. I'm going to file a tor. >> Well, you're stating your action. >> You're going to file a lawsuit. We can't talk to you anyway. So, please sit. >> So, just to be clear, you are refusing me to speak up here. Is that correct? For the record,
>> I'm asking you to follow >> For the record, you're asking me to sit down and forfeit my time. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> That was nice. >> Hello, my name is Michael O'Brien. I live on four landing lane and I'm asking
for the council's help. Parking and traffic is a nightmare off of Broadway. I can't tell you how many accidents I've almost gotten into leaving Landing Lane and trying to leave Broadway on to 559.
People park half on the corner, half out in the street. Uh I believe there's some type of law regarding how far you can park to the curb. That doesn't even count. If they can get half the car in there, it counts. Every time I go on the lame lane, I get the shakes because I've
almost hit children, you know, parents, uh, small children in strawarts. It's a nightmare. They park halfway up on your We don't have curves. We have the round it uh I don't know what to call it there and they pull up and park uh on your
grass. They park in front of fire hydrant and it's it's only a matter of time before somebody gets hurt. And I just pray I don't have any involvement in it. I I think uh they need to potentially the first block coming off
of uh from the crab trap onto Broadway. Maybe make it no parking on one side and then also yellow curbs uh uh close to the um intersections there and also some police uh enforcement down there. Uh I
can't tell you how many times people are parked in front of my house. There's a fire hydrant right there. I've never seen a ticket give. They're parking right in front of the fire hydrant. I've called the police saying that they're halfway out on Broadway, halfway into the landing lane. They've never come on that. Uh I just need some help with the
council to try to get traffic under control. I'm not saying, you know, it's not the fault of the crab trap. They just don't have enough parking for the patients that get in there, but we need some type of enforcement to make it safer for everybody, including the people that live in the residence. I
hope you can help us with this. >> Okay, thank you for that. Well, uh perhaps I can ask the mayor to mention that to the chief of your concerns. >> Well, I I he was the I went over I don't know he was the chief, but I voiced my concern over there. They pushed me over
here on that. So, I I really don't want this to be bounced around back and forth. I mean, who's responsible for public How about right after the meeting? Pardon me? Right after the meeting, give me your information. I'll come out with you and Pete. We'll take a look at everything and then I'll be the
conduit. >> Okay. All right. And if there's any doubt as to how bad it is, go over there between 4 and 8, 5:00 night. It's a nightmare. >> No, no problem. I'll >> Is there a possibility that we could get a traffic light? I know it has to go through the state, but not a traffic light at the end of Broadway.
>> I think Tom would enjoy that, wouldn't you? >> Uh, that that would be, you know, that's that's a state that's a state. Excuse me. That's a county. >> You go through the same area. Yeah, >> they issued a summon to the black suburban. >> Pardon me. >> They issued a summon to the black suburban hanging over.
>> Well, that was that wasn't the car that was there. >> I I I feel your pain, >> right? You're broad, >> right? You're broad. I have a most difficult lane.
Field division is not and with boats that you can make. Thank you for your time. Thank you. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. I >> think Bill's ready.
>> Okay, here we go. >> Here we go. >> Good evening. Bill Collins, 8:14. I just want to do some followup uh u on the uh boat parking
as a followup to the uh June 26 council meeting we had. I mentioned quite a few things back then that I talked to like several voters. Nobody thought that they had to pay a fee and that I had observed over 34 trailers
and only two had permits just less than 6% compliance rate at that point. Brought to the attention of council the small side size of the sign and the placement of that sign. I also brought to the attention that the
website says both seasonal and yearly permits available and yet you spent time on an ordinance back in April changing all that. You did change your website to say it's just you know year no more seasonal. I suggested that you cover the gates if
you're not going to use them for the mechanism out there uh just to protect it against the all air. Uh I mentioned about the limited hours to purchase the uh permits that it was only 8 to 12 Monday through Friday. There's no
weekends. You couldn't purchase online and uh that uh you weren't going to use the uh park mobile application anymore. Uh and again
that that's going to come up again a little bit later. Then I asked at that point and I said that you know we we as as a city had paid 152,000 for the purchase of those gates it wasn't being utilized. Three questions I asked the council. How much
revenue has been brought in by the selling of trailer purpose. How many tickets were written? Then I asked who was responsible for the boat trailer parking. None of those I got an answer except for Mr. Smith where
we were talking about writing tickets. I was over there observing the police officer who wasn't issuing ticket. Mr. Smith informed me that maybe they were doing it remotely again. So here's some things we could have done and picked up on the signs the
websites. Okay. Do it on an app. We pay our taxes online. Why can't we pay for for for a trailer online? Make these you know it's limited hours. No weekends. Think about all the money we're losing. I then had
to obtain an Oprah request and I didn't get that till Friday, July 11th, the day after your July meeting. So your revenue since 125, okay, was $7,650.
That's through the 2nd of July. Your breakdown basically is this. Summers Point by far is far and away the biggest user on the >> Let me ask them to be quiet. >> Hold on a second.
>> Both sides. Both sides. >> Thank you. >> They couldn't hear you, Bill. Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. >> Was the It wasn't your fault. It was >> Oh, I was I'm sorry. So, I did a whole breakdown of the whole thing. Summer's Point was the biggest total. There was
six 69 per permits um written for $7,650. Then the second part of the opery request was for how many tickets were written? And believe it or not, one day and this
is the number I want you to listen to. Okay, close on the 22nd of June. Okay. >> 26 tickets were written. >> 26. One day, Saturday the 26th, basically by one officer, I have the
times, I have the ticket numbers, I have the violations, I have the officer's number. >> And I think what's what's interesting there, of those 26, I went back and only five of the people went b back and and purchase a permit. So, it's pretty
interesting the way you see this. And these people are from all over. Mullica, Vinland, Ocean City, Bridgton, Galloway, Hardiesville, PA, Collins Lakes, Southerntherton, PA, Delaware, Clement. These people are
coming from so they know the ramp is there. We're just not collecting the money. So I just implore you to please go back and take a look at it. Not only that, not only that, but think about what we have as an opportunity. this town. We had we we rescended the parking
over a year ago and that was an opportunity and by your numbers it was an estimate of $150,000. That's by the wayside now. There was 113 parks and we heard some things about >> We're a little beyond the time as you get. >> I'm going to just wrap it up. >> Please.
>> We're going to wrap it right up. Okay. >> Thanks. >> I'm just going to wrap it up. Okay. And and again it was because you know people were going to have to use their phone and they're going to resist again that number I was talking about Park Mobile 50 million 50 million okay um
clients then we had the marina that came back in 2019 we had 20 slips we had we had grants from the national boat infrastructure for a million45 then we had a grant from the fish and wildlife for another 35,000 marine trade
association They paid for everything. The point is we need to take a look at our opportunities instead of squandering them. You have all this property. Okay. That and I'm going to add to this as well. Airbnb. We're giving away more money because we can't figure out. >> I think you've articulated your your uh
message here. I'm going to ask you I got another person here want to speak. So, thank you. >> Very good. >> Thank you. >> I would hope just please follow up on some of his stuff. >> Money in the bank. I thank you. got over a million and a half in in the in the
parking >> Michael K16 Yo Boulevard. Um we know there's a problem down here at the boat ramps and I think a lot of it is not having a daily pass. So I work down a boat ramp in in Ocean City and I get a
lot of complaints down there and about all the tickets being written. I think one of the biggest problem is if people come down there they can't buy a daily pass. I think that's a lot of what the problem is and I was going to uh follow up with the mayor probably towards the end of the year going in for next year
come up with a different plan for down there so we can try to avoid a lot of that stuff. So that's >> sounds good. Mike, thank you Mike. Thank you no. Are you prepared to state your name? >> Under duress. Yes.
>> My name is Vinnie Caputo. No address. Where? >> I reside. >> You You yourself said I don't have to give my address. >> No. >> Yes, you did, sir. >> I live on Earth. >> Oh, here we go.
>> All right. Listen. All right. You got three minutes. Go. >> Thank you. So, I have some information the public needs to hear. I've been told an elected elected official has used their position for personal revenge and not to serve the people. This includes making threats to local businesses that
led to expensive taxpayer funded lawsuits. Uh pressuring committee members uh to target certain pe uh people, ordering city departments to go after residents as punishment, uh pushing ordinances based on lies and not facts. I've also been told that this
official has threatened violence towards other city officials during during heated uh council meetings. The sound cuts out when criticism is strong. That's not just wrong. It's silencing the public record. You guys can't do that. Fix it. Get new microphones. Have
you heard the YouTube? It's ridiculous. Ridiculous. I'm always glad I bring my own. As you can see, I bring my own because I I don't want things to get misconstrued where the sound just disappears. Um, so I've also heard that they try to
block outdoor uh concerts um just because of personal grudges. Um uh someone's using their powers in zoning and uh planning boards to block projects, even withheld city services
from residents as retaliation. Why did you guys change the ordinance for uh city rentals? Is it because you didn't want that happening across the street from your house? Last I checked, this was America, and we're free to do what we want as
Americans. We'd like to do what we want with our properties. I have heard that this person is resigning tonight. I already knew that you would be resigning. >> That's Excuse me. I don't I do >> Can you stop my time, please? Stop my time. >> Yeah.
>> Thank you. >> So, let let's just try not to keep this so personal. Okay. >> Is it my time? I can speak whatever I want. Thank you. >> Uh but resigning is not the same as being held accountable. >> Guess what? We will hold you
accountable. The the damage, the lawsuits, the law, the the loss of trust remains here in the public. These allegations may be unethical, possibly criminal, and I'm calling for an investigation by an independent authority outside Summers Point to look
into these allegations of corruption. To the citizens here watching online, you might not be able to hear us. Sorry. Um, this is your city, your money, your trust. No one is above the law. Not because you have family and law law enforcement, not because you uh not
because you hold elected office. Let's shine a light into summer's point because sunlight is the best disinfectant. Resignation or not, I'm guarding state accountability and like I said before, we will hold you accountable. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you for my time. >> Thank you for your passion. >> Moren Hellbig, 106 East Stalls Avenue. I just have a couple of comments about the the bike path and I understand this tragedy uh has to be investigated. So,
I'm not asking for any comments or anything, but I'm on the bike path all the time and um and I see, you know, people of all ages on electric bikes racing and and and young kids riding, lifting the bikes up like this, and I
just think, "Oh my god, if they fall over and hit their head, you know." Anyway, um a a couple points is I see that um in Lynwood the they have a police program and I've talked to them this morning just to confirm that it's still in existence because I've seen it.
I've talked to officers. My husband and I are on the bike path all the time. So, um they have a police officer that rides a bike on the bike path. They also have now and I don't know how long this part's been going on. The bike bicycle has been going on a long time, but they
have a police officer that is there stopping anyone under the age of 18 that doesn't have a helmet on, anyone that's on an electric bike just to talk to them about safety. If they have a helmet, they're giving them a a coupon for a free ice cream cone. It's a beautiful
thing to see a police officer in in that, you know, strong uniform standing there addressing children with a smile on his face. He's laughing. He's talking to the kids. And so I just wonder why maybe our
Summers Point police could have somebody on a bike. Hey, my husband, if he was a cop, he'd want that job, you know, but you could ride on a bike and and create a relationship with young people, not only about safety on the bike path, but
giving them the feeling that police officer are there to help or to talk to about anything. So, just something to think about. Um, there's one other thing about the bikes. Uh, the police officers. Um, shoot. This has been a
crazy meeting. So, um, >> your ass. >> Anyway, just something to think about. I would like you to do that. Oh, I Oh, Kurt. Hey, Kurt. I believe in a prior meeting you had indicated maybe st looking into uh some sort of a a
community program with the schools and the police to create an educational experience with the kids you know so I I don't know if you started that or not but you you did I think you said something and Sean said something about PAL >> so just to help with the kids another you know school program that you cop
goes into school and talks to the kids you know just all that one-on-one I think would be a lovely experience for the for the police officers and the kids to have a communication. And lastly, um I do feel that and I come
to these meetings, my husband does, we do donate our time for this beautiful city. So when we're sitting here, it is a little insulting not to be able to hear. And Mr. Smith, you and I have discussed this before. You have a microphone. You asked us to get up and
speak into this microphone. I'm asking you to do the same. Thank you. Thank you. Just for the to note that there there is a lot of uh uh the police do have a lot of interaction in our schools. They do have a lot of we do have a lot of interaction. That's is
basically the mission of the PAL organization. Uh and we're we're continuing those programs as you know and and one of them is going to be related to bicycles. And I do know the other day uh we did have a uh a squad of
a number of men up on the flight path interacting with the children and and discussing safety with them. So thank you for those. >> My name is Levi Fox. I live at 90 Broadway. I started the clock in case for arbitrary and capriccious reasons it
is determined that this one will be enforced. Though as we know not all three middle time limits are enforced nor do I think they necessarily should be. My issue is with the inconsistent practice like
there was no reason why as soon as the other gentleman gave any name that he should not have been allowed to talk because it is not practice to question the name that is given. that was something determined to do because you knew that it was going like you you
couldn't prove it but you knew it was false. So, all right, that's my point on that. Um, I have a couple other points to make, though. And I literally came here with nothing to talk about, but I will address the fact that I'm frustrated by the comment about wasting
time. Um the the the historical preservation committee meeting last night went till 8:30. Uh EDAC meetings on which I sit, John Hellbig sits, Rob Hopkins sits. Um regularly go 2 hours or
more plus. Uh these are all volunteer time that we give. Um, and yet to have a council person say that they're frustrated about having to be here too long when they are compensated for their efforts by the taxpayers I find to be particularly frustrating. Um, I will
also note in terms of the timing, uh, to have someone say that, then say that they just got back from vacation and then say that, uh, you know, and have done nothing for 9 months about a rent control ordinance that during election
season, mailers were sent out to all the apartment dwellers in Summers Point promising that that would be something looked into in the new year. It's August. It's the end of the summer. Okay. Um, and then also to have time
spent discussing, and I do think it's relevant, uh, possible parking restrictions specifically in one area. I'm very glad that uh by happen stance, two other members of the public came up to address the issue so that the parking and transportation commission won't just
be looking at the area that was lobbyed for by the council person who lives there, though they were supposed to have immediately recused themselves as advised by the city solicitor. I have 30 seconds left. That's awesome. >> Yeah, we do.
>> Yeah. Okay. Um, I really hope that uh in the future going forward you can respect the time of the public who are giving that up to be here because we care so much about the issues of the city when it seems
sometimes the council people care less than we do. Thank you. >> Motion to close the public portion. Second. I have more time. >> Motion's been made and second. Any comment? All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. All right. The meeting is now
closed to public comment. We need to pay the bills. Could I get a motion to pay the bills? >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Motion's been made in second. Any comments? All those in favor? >> I opposed.
Pay the bills. Would the uh governing body like to make any comments before we go to enjoinment and executive session? >> Uh Mr. Chairman. >> Yes, sir. >> Is it okay if I ask this gentleman a question? >> Ah, come on.
>> Just a quick question. >> Really? >> Just a quick one. Uh, how would you like me to address you, Vinnie? Mr. Caputo, what? >> U Mr. Garden State. >> Mr. Garden State. You have over a million views on your site. That's very
impressive. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> I got a tip to come here. >> Here we got information. >> It's probably not appropriate for any other comments from the governing body. >> A lot of people will see this meeting.
>> All right. >> Yeah. >> All right. Hearing no other comments, we're going to adjourn and we're going to go into executive session. And as I said earlier, we don't anticipate taking any action coming out of that.