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That's exactly Thank you. 10 seconds. Jason, why did you say >> summerable planning board for Wednesday, July 8th, 2026, please come to order. Adequate notice of this meeting as required by the Open Public Meeting Act has been provided. A copy of the spe not

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notice specifying the date, time and location was one posted on the bulletin board outside of Burough Hall. Two mailed facts or emailed to the courier news and three given to the clerk administrator. This meeting is a judicial proceeding. Any questions or comments must be limited to the issues the board may legally consider in reaching a decision and the decorum

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appropriate to a judicial hearing must be maintained at all times. Roll call. >> Chairperson Warner >> here. >> Mayor Gallagher >> here. >> Jason Kra >> here. >> Roger Vroom >> here. >> Larry Cleveland >> here. Andrea Dear >> here. >> Chris Addex is excused. John Manilia

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>> here. >> Barry Van Horn >> here. >> Tim Hayes >> here. >> Bill Kale >> here. >> Please stand for the pledge. >> I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Okay. I have no additional comments other than things we'll be discussing today. We have no AOB reviews nor approvals. I need a motion for minutes from June 24th. >> So moved. >> Second.

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>> Chairperson Warner. >> Yes. >> Jason Krasco. >> Yes. >> Council member Vroom. >> Yes. >> Larry Cleveland. >> Yes. >> Barry Van Horn. >> Yes. >> Tim Hayes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay, we have two resolutions for approval. The first one is for the New

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Jersey Elixir that was 20 to 30 2030 East Main Street. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Chairperson Warner. >> Yes. >> Uh Roger Vroom, >> yes. >> Jason Kra, >> yes. >> Larry Cleveland, >> yes. >> Uh second resolution is for 86 North

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Gaston. That was that pizza application. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Chairperson Warner. >> Yes. >> Mayor Gallagher. >> Yes. Jason Krasco, >> yes. >> Roger Vroom, >> yes. >> Larry Cleveland, >> yes. >> Andrea Dair, >> yes. >> John Manilio, >> yes.

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>> Tim Hayes, >> yes. >> Okay. Next up, we have a minor site plan review for two West Main Street. >> Check one, two. Good evening, members of the board. Uh my name is Mike O'Rnik. I'm an attorney at Savo Shaw Law Firm

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here in Somerville, New Jersey. Uh I'm here for a presentation on the Bagel NSH application. Um this is located at 2 West Main Street, block 113, lot 15. Um this is, as you know, the old Mike's Courtside, which was uh completely

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almost completely destroyer destroyed by a fire several years ago. Uh this is a proposing the reconstruction of the fire damage building on the first floor for the installation of a commercial kitchen and operation of a bagel shop restaurant on the ground on the ground floor. Uh

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the project involves HVAC and exhaust equipment installation on the exterior. There's really no site issues, no site changes. Uh we have received several outside agency approvals uh from uh the Somerset County Planning Board. Um for

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zoning, this is in of course in the B1 central business district where the use is a permitted principal use within the B1 zoning district. Um there's a number of uh pre-existing non-conformities. I'll go over them. I don't think we really need relief because we know this

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building is predated our zoning in in the in the New Jersey tax map in the 1940s. So this building is about 50 years older than that based upon the tax records. Um, but it is a 52- foot height uh building that's an existing and

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proposed whereas uh there's a height limit of 45 feet in the B1 central business zoning district. The the setback in the rear yard uh is 20.69 ft whereas 25 ft is required. Uh and I

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believe that's the only uh bulk standards that are not in conformity with the with the zoning district. Um today we're here to uh go over we we have a couple of we have a number of witnesses but they're going to be relatively brief. Um I we have Mr.

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Styers to go over the site plan. We have Yu Zhao who's our mechanical engineer. He's a a P licensed in New Jersey as well. And we also have Alan Yang who is our licensed New Jersey architect. Um, we will also be asking for a waiver so

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we can get to uh to TCO upon building inspections because this application has taken a number of months uh to get through the completeness process. Um, other than that, um, I've I've handed out two exhibits uh, which I'd like to

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mark as P1. P1 would be the signage package and P2 would be the dumpster enclosure. There was a question A123. >> A3 would be the signage package which we believe to be fully conforming,

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no variances. And A4 would be the uh dumpster. Uh there was another application um that was uh heard before this board that uh required as a condition of approval a concrete dumpster enclosure with stone

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facade. So that you'll see the detail on that which will be shared uh with all the tenants uh in this space. >> Cara, can you use your microphone? I'm sorry. >> Uh we'll also mark as PB1 Mike Cole's report uh dated July 3rd, 2026. And just

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to add, Mike, I think there's one more pre-existing condition. Lot frontage 50 fts required. 25.42 is existing. >> Mr. Styers, >> can we bring up Well, can we just swear in all of your witnesses at once?

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>> Yeah. Can you guys stand up? Do you all swear the testimony you're about to give this for is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Yes, I do. >> Great. Thank you, >> Mr. Stars, is your professional engineering license still in good standing in the state of New Jersey? >> It is.

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>> Okay. I would ask that he be allowed to proceed as our >> completely accepted and then we can move on. >> Could you just go over the kind of the history of this property and and the existing conditions and then the proposed conditions? Um, like you said, it's on the corner of uh West Main and

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Bridge Street. Um, it's been there as long as I've been around, let's put it, um, same look, everything like that. It's got apartments on the upper floors, uh, retail on the first floor. Um, it's been, you know, from Pearl's Drug

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Stroller to on and on and on. Um, like Mike said, it was I think we're lucky that it's still standing after the fire. Uh it looks like the owner put a lot of effort into uh restoring what's there and I think that's really what we're

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here for more than anything else. Hopefully there's more sympathetic than anything else as far as you know demands or requests and things like that. We're really just trying to get that first floor back and occupied. >> And um just touching on the coal report

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um could you just go over the the location of of the dumpster enclosure? >> Yeah. Um, yeah, we were we were actually just talking to the owner of the the property and as part of the I guess re rehabilitation of the facade, so I don't think it actually came before the board. I think it was part of the permitting

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that they have a dumpster that's been approved already. >> Okay. >> Um, I think that's what you have before you. Um, as far as uh, for example, the tree replacement, um, I would ask for a waiver. Again, kind of going off of the sympathetic part of it. I know you we'd

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like to Uh >> there was a tree there before. >> My understanding is that Six West got their approval and agreed to replace that tree. >> You're not sharing that tree. >> Well, there's no room to put any other trees.

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>> No, no, I understand it. I'm only half joking. >> So, you have a frontage on East Main, excuse me, um >> on bridge >> on east bridge and main. So, West Main and North Bridge. So if the one on north

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on east west main is going to be covered, what about is there room on the side? The sidewalk is too narrow. >> Correct. >> So waiver to what? Plant more trees someplace else.

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>> Yes. >> I think Craig is saying that he's uh they're requesting a waiver not to plant the three trees. >> Yeah. and to make the financial contribution. >> I would say respectfully as for the waiver the contribution as well just

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because of the situation. I think it's again we're we're trying to restore a building that almost burned down and I think all the efforts have been put forth to restore the building and I I asked the same thing. I mean, if the board chooses not to, but that would be

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in my opinion to wave that to get this thing up and running. And, you know, again, he's also been waiting for seven months to get in and make the restorations alone. If you if the board wants the contribution, >> so be it. But

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>> I would request that they wave planting and the contribution. >> So, for the record, so in front of that building, not just two, but also >> two and two and six. two and six. There was one tree that had to be removed and that is already being replaced by six west. >> That's correct.

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>> Okay. Just want that on. >> Yeah. It was damaged during with the firefighting equipment so it had to be taken down. So there's a >> I was there. So just confirming it was only one tree. >> Yeah. And what if you recall those were the old four by like 10 >> that they were fenced in and I think the

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burrow is getting rid of those and going back more to the smaller tree with a grade around it. So I think my understanding is that six west has already agreed to put that replace that >> tree the damaged tree. And what >> what's the requirement on this one? How

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many are they being required? Three, >> right? >> Um >> they have a little almost 150 ft of frontage right now. So it's 50 ft time divided by 150 is three trees. >> And that's on that's on both West Main and North Bridge. >> Yeah. If you add up the corner lot, it's

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15 total 15. So it' be three trees. They're asking for a waiver from three street trees. >> Okay, we can come back to that. I just wanted to get that clarification on that. >> Y understood. >> I don't think there's any other site issues. Um if there's any questions from

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the board or the public. >> Yeah, I think the last thing was the they have four seats out front, but I think that's another that's a permit. >> That's a outdoor cafe thing. We went through that, Craig. I >> Yeah, >> there's a process. This is they're showing two trees, two tables, but

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there's a permitting process that uh Craig was made aware of that >> Yeah. And that application can go forth at any time. >> Right. Right. And then the ARB is is it I think I was at the last application that was just approved. Does is there a formal application or does it just go to

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the ARB automatically? >> So there is a there is actually an application for the specifically I know for the cafes because it shows the requirements that are there. Okay. um we don't require formal architectural engineering plans. We just require they can be drawn out but to scale um of what

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they're proposing. It comes before us on the ARB. We make the and it as long as it's con conforming with the uh ordinance approval. >> All right. >> It is a pretty quick easy painless painless is most important process.

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>> Okay. Yeah. As far as the other any site I mean obviously it's there really are no site improvements >> questions comments from the board. >> Yeah the fire officials um letter >> I'm going to get to that in one second just based on the

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um testimony we have right now. Any questions comments? >> One question Mr. Styrus. Um so there's a looks like a partial curb cut on the um Bridge Street side. Is that going to be utilized still for parking or loading? >> Yes. >> Uber Eats.

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>> You're talking about in the back of the building, right? Yes. Yes. Because that again, I think it's their dumpster. I think Six West and there are a couple other buildings that all have access through there. >> Yeah. >> So, Craig, the dumpster is going to be a joint dumpster with Six West. Is that my

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understanding? That's the intent. Correct. That's great. is that that's exactly what the conversation with Six West was, Michael, that it makes perfect sense to have one dumpster for the six six apartments in the two restaurants.

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>> Any other questions for >> No. Okay, hold on. I I have a comment there from the owner of the building here. >> Just let me So, this is this is this property's dumpster. It's not the it's not the neighboring owner's dumpster. >> So, the dumpster enclosure we're looking

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at was for is for two West, >> correct? That was approved for for this building only. It's not it's not a shared dumpster. >> Cool. Michael to get a shared dumpster because it makes you you know what I'm going to say.

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>> Yeah. I honestly I I just we we just got in touch with the owner of the building at about an hour ago. So it's sort of news to me. I we'll make every effort to have that discussion. >> Um so >> just so you know, Six West is coming back for final. They got a preliminary

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approval was part of an addition. So the board will be seeing the final application for Six West. So, >> did they propose another enclosure? >> They don't show one. In the same conversation with the board was to try to reach out to to this applicant and

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have the back uniform. >> Okay. >> Uh for one dumpster so that you don't have a mess. >> Got it. Understood. >> So, if you're I'm sorry. If you're willing if they're willing, you're willing.

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>> We could just get Yeah, we need to have him sworn in if he's going to >> swear the testimony you're about to give this board is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. >> Thank you. >> Great. Just state your name. >> Tony S. I'm the owner of two West Main Street, JT Enterprises LLC.

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Um, so we have six, we previously had six apartments and then one store. They're having six apartments, but they're increasing the occupancy from one bedrooms to two bedrooms. We're still maintaining the same occupancy. So, we also don't know what they're

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going in downstairs. You can fit a twoyard dumpster into the proposed enclosure that was approved. Um, and then we also have the retail tenants sharing um all the residential. We can fit 12 containers of, you know, trash

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and recycling. So, they're already taking care of our recycling. Um, so there's really not enough space to add an additional dumpster there. Even so pulling into that spot, they would you're essentially taking over the

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parking from our side to be able to empty those dumpsters. So they would have to pull the dumpster out uh to the street anyways. And that's how it's always been done since the past. >> Mike, any thoughts on that? I I understand your concern. In the

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past, what the board has done is just require additional frequency of pickup to try to alleviate I you're saying you have your limited space and the adjoining property might be generating significantly more solid waste. So, you

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might get into an issue of who's paying for what and then the frequency of pickup. >> That's correct. >> I understand. Um, it's a it's it's it's a really tough situation because both lot is only 25 ft wide. So, you're looking at

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two dumpsters, independent dumpster. It it it's it's a little challenging what I understand what you're saying. Um, it's up up to the board. I'd like to see one unified location. So, I I I think my thoughts on this is, you know, we've talked about some of these pre-existing

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conditions and we have this is a pre-existing condition and I think we the board would prefer if we could find a compromise. Um, we have the opportunity here to improve something versus just saying, well, this is the way it was done in the past. I do completely understand what you're

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saying. Um, but I I think at least for me, I'm only going to speak to me. The board can also speak for themselves, but um I would really prefer if we could find some kind of compromise. um even if it's some kind of an agreement um because we can also bring it up when they come before us as a board. So, but I I do feel that this is an opportunity

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that we do try on the downtown is to improve, not just say it's always been that way. There are appropriate like in this application very appropriate times to say, "Hey, it's a pre-existing condition. We're not redoing the building because it happens to be like that." It's so I do feel that this is an

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opportunity other board members can also chime in if they'd like. I completely agree with with the chair. Um this is an issue we've had all over Main Street uh up and down Main Street. We have shared driveways, shared back, shared parking,

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and at some point it has to be addressed and it has to be fixed and and we've tried. And here we have a a a building, two buildings, one building, but inexurably linked um into two separate

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entities. But it it it to go back and do it the way it's always been done, as the chair said, doesn't make a lot of sense. I think there needs to be an ability. Um, if if we if if you're willing and

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they're willing, I think the board and the burrow would work to help facilitate that. >> I think having two separate dumpster enclosures is still possible because they just never built a dumpster enclosure. We built a dumpster. It was pre-existing there. We're building

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exactly the same dumpster enclosure, but you know, obviously cinder block and stone, so it'll look nice from the street, but all the dumpsters always have to come out to the street anyways. That's how the neighbors at 8 and um you know 12 do it as well because the

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dumpster can't go in and physically pick up the dumpsters. They all have to be rolled and then dumped before being put back. So they can't build a dumpster enclosure and just push the dumpsters out. So instead of having a five or six

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yard dumpster and that were both joint sharing, they can still build their dumpster enclosure and still have room for parking. >> Or you could have one dumpster and it could be picked up much more frequently. >> Correct. But then you we wouldn't none

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of us would be able to park it back. >> It it might be fruitful. Um I Six West applicant just submitted concept plans. We're pushing for final. I know they're receptive to having a joint solid waste area. Um, should the board desire, I

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think the bureau can facilitate this communication and see if this can be worked out prior to the final approval on six west. I I I understand. I think what you're s what the challenges you have I think can be overcome. Um, maybe

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it's one joint facility but separate dumpsters just to give a uniform approach. So the dumpsters aren't shared, but the but the the dumpster enclosure shared, but the dumpsters are individual. So you don't I I'm I think there's ways to to work this out to to

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to address your concerns. >> We're happy to entertain, but aside from the dumpsters, you also have the grease drum that also needs to be put there for the restaurant as well. For the proposed drawing that we have that's been approved by the ARB, they

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There's no recycling dumpster. It's separate. So, they still have to pick it up separately. So, [clears throat] if you have two buildings with two grease drums with two, you know, at least two dumpster enclosures, you're probably going to get a sixyard. Um, there's not

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going to be enough space. >> So, I do hear you, but it is an equal lot back there, two properties. And we have to figure, and that's what we're trying to figure out is figuring out a way to make most use of the space back there, making it uniform, but we can't penalize another where all of a sudden

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now another applicant can't comply because we approve something. So that's why we're asking if you would at least be open to having those conversations behind the scenes. Um I do believe that there is a compromise that can be had. That's all we're looking for is for you to have those conversations. Not I do

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totally agree and I understand your you know your concerns but I feel like those conversations should be had to do the best we can to improve that site versus just saying no we're just going to stay the way we are >> right and the other option is maybe talk

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to them about putting the dumpster on six instead of on your property because the way if you push it further back you'll have more room in the front for parking for >> I think that because you're putting an egress they're building an access for the Then they won't be able

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access and that they're going to have another access to go up to the apartments. The dumpster enclosure will sit there. It's tight. >> Yeah, I think again I think this is something that Mike can help facilitate uh some of those uh conversations to see

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what we can do. Uh again, this isn't like you have to. We we just want you to say you're open to the conversation and see what we can have what we can do to make this site a little bit better. >> Sure. And since you brought it up, I'm I'm going to bite the used cooking wheel. Is

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there Can you store it in the kitchen and have it pumped out as opposed to being stored in the drum in the dumpster? There's a lot of housekeeping issues with the dump used cooking oil. U >> So they previously did that when it was

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port side. Yeah. >> They didn't have a separate grease container outside, but like there was one at West. So you know It's very tight back there. Um for them to even That's why in our lease with the

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tenant, we do have all the tenants put their trash with the commercial space and the commercial space is responsible for having regular pickups because we own the building for a long time. We know you can't fit 12 trash cans back there plus

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>> wouldn't bringing the vat inside save you space in the back then >> it saves a little bit but not too much. >> Mike Mike I have a question. Why does the your report say refuge dumpster required prohibited? >> What does that mean?

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>> It's not it's the the dumpster is not allowed in the B1. But in this circumstance, how else do you handle this in a the dumpsters are unsightly so you don't want them in public view. So the B1 it's

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a waiver to put a dumpster in. The preference would be 30 yard 50 gallon trench something smaller that's less doesn't take up so much space. But when you have 25 foot lot with the apartments, you're almost forced into a

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dumpster situation for what the owner has said here that the space requirements for individual trash cans. So it's a waiver. The dumpster is not shown on Craig's plans and that's why I brought it up saying you have a

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commercial kitchen with apartments above it. It seems like you're going to need a dumpster. Uh and the waiver is because you really can't use trash cans from because of the quantity. >> So that's not a variance. It's a waiver. >> It's a waiver. >> Yes, it's a waiver.

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>> It's a not a variance. It's a waiver. And uh typically to address the aesthetics, the board has required a masonary enclosure with B so it doesn't get messed up with the truck as Craig's heard us all before a million times concrete boulders on the inside. Just

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housekeeping to try to make the aesthetics and at six west we had there was a comment I think the board was in the resolution to try to have the facades in the back and if there's a dumpster match so we have some cohesive in the back there. So it it it doesn't

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look like it was a haphazard idea. It was actually planned for the restaurants and the buildings. And I I I understand your concerns. And that goes back to the dumpster because uh the use grease what happens in some instances the grease sits in the

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the dumpster enclosure for extended period of times and it it becomes a housekeeping uh it becomes frankly a mess. And to address this, in the past, the board has tried to have the grease

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kept inside so we don't have the all the issues associated with dragging used cooking oil in in the spillage and how most dumpsters end up looking really nasty where it with it with it the can is. But it's up to the board. I

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understand what you're saying. I I also have a another question. Where the ARB said it's okay to put this this planned dumpster, does that block off sixes access?

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>> No, they can still there's our property lines where there >> still can get in there. It's more so if you put the dumpster either fully against eight then for and you put it eight yard dumpster or sixyard dumpster

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there that can't be pushed out. That has to be manually picked up by actual dumpster and we would need to leave our spaces open for them to come and pick up the dumpsters. Whereas everyone rolls the

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dumpsters to the side and when the dumpster company comes whenever you know for eight or for us then they would pick it up and you know they would push it out to pick it up in that ement area that area. >> So So making the enclosure bigger

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to go further north on the property is not going to work. It's probably not in >> well not this way best interest more so because you can't move the dumpster physically whereas >> if you have two yard dumpsters everyone

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just pushes them out and then when the dumpster company comes you can't plan when the dumpster company comes >> you don't have to move all the cars to be able to pick up the >> So so I think to what the mayor was pointing out earlier was instead of going with a six yard or an eight yard

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dumpster you can keep the two yard and just get it picked up, you know, every other day rather than once a week or twice a week >> already picked up every other day. [laughter] >> Gotcha. >> So, and we're also going to have to talk about pickup times because that is something that we discuss with our applications. So, to your point, yes,

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you might not know, but we will be talking about some restricting of times when it is not allowed to be picked up as well. And I think as the board's listening, we should think about um we could impose a condition saying that the applicant will work with the property owner at six to

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try to make this work. But as we've seen previously, if that doesn't happen, I think we should think about what recourse or what the requirement should be after that, whether it's more additional pickups every day if that's the case, um or whatever the case may

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be. So, let's just think about that. Okay. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. >> Um, anything else before we go to our next witness? >> Craig, you're not dealing with the exhaust, the aesthetics. That's >> We have a mechanical engineer. >> Thank you, ma'am.

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>> To address that. >> Um, I'm going to bring up um U Zhao. It's spelled y u e z h o u >> aka forest.

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>> Yes. >> Um so can you are you a licensed professional engineer? >> Yes, I'm licensed in New York. >> Can you just turn on that? >> Oh, okay. Sorry. >> Yes, I'm licensed in in New York and in New Jersey. >> Um and have you appeared before planning

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boards and other boards in the past? Yes, I I did a couple times in Bricktown and other township in New Jersey. >> Okay. And and you were brought aboard to uh for this application. Can you describe what your scope of work is and then go into detail on on the uh the

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HVAC, the exhaust, etc.? >> Yes, basically uh this is just to uh first I believe it's just to replace the HVAC for the for the existing space. Uh the usage might be different. They also add installed a new exhaust fan for the

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kitchen hood. That's our scope of work. >> And um have you had a chance to review the Cole and Associates memorandum dated July 3rd, 2026? >> Yes, we did. >> Okay. And can you talk about um some of the issues raised related to the noise

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and and things like that? Yes, actually related to the noise, we already added all the numbers uh on our plan the the manufacturer from the exhaust fan and also the HVC condenser unit uh the rooftop unit. We have the uh sound power

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numbers on the drawing which is already lower than the required uh numbers for the sound uh sound pressure. >> And could you just touch on screening? I mean, are the are these HVAC mechanical improvements visible from the street? >> No, actually, because the exhaust fan is

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up on the roof, so it's uh unless you um standing behind the building, you you won't notice you won't see the exhaust fan. >> And you're proposing to to screen that with what type of material and >> Yeah, we we can screen that with uh

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perforated panels to screen the exhaust fan. just defer to Mr. Cole on a color. >> Yeah, that's that's that's owner's preference or the Yeah, the architect >> care about the color of that. >> We'll just whatever is appropriate.

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>> Yeah. >> I Yeah, I was going to say just match the facade. >> Okay. Sure. >> Okay. And um what about air handling systems? Is there any existing intakes that will be reutilized for this? There there is uh there is existing uh louvers

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in the back of the building. We're going to use that. We actually uh label uh indicated that on our drawing which is uh with the fire dampers in the back of the building for the makeup air supply. Um but uh the exhaust goes up to the roof. Other than that, we don't have any

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other openings on on the facade. >> There's going to be no makeup, no intake fan, only exhaust fan. >> Yes, exactly. It's a quite a small space and quite small exhaust hood. So that's why we don't want to put the makeup fan just just that >> we're dealing with sound with two issues. The exhaust on the third floor

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and the LRTU which is a nice way of saying the HVAC 10 ton 10 ton unit on the ground floor the first floor in the back. There's an addition >> uh that's only one story >> that the the proposed 10 ton unit is on there. Yeah. I think I had a question

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about screening. Is it visible? I don't s parapit I don't know. It is visible from the back of the building, but I believe that that's where the ex the the previous unit sits because there is still existing donnage there. Again, it's if it's if the board requires

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screening, we can provide the screening for that unit. But the the unit itself, it's it's well enclosed. It's very nice units there. I don't think unless the the board requires to match with the facade color, but other than that, I

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think it's it's it's good equipment to be there. >> I have no further questions for the witness. >> Anybody have any questions for this witness? >> So, basically, it complies once you put the numbers on there, everything does comply with all this sound and everything. >> Yes, absolutely.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Thank you. >> Our final witness is our architect. Um the only change here is an ADA bathroom. Uh but we figured it would be good to

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have him here to answer any questions. We've also done a signage package that's going to be fully compliant. Um so could could you um state your name for the record and spell it? >> Yeah, my name is Anna Young. Uh A L Y A N G. I'm a licensed architect in uh

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Jersey and New York City. >> And you're a good standing >> city. Yeah, good standing. >> Okay. And so could you just walk through the floor plan? Uh what what what exists there today and what are the changes that you're making? >> So yeah, basically as you told before was a fire, so everything is destroyed

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inside. Uh we're just trying to restore uh hopefully making to a nice uh nice commercial place for the for the town. Uh we have uh ADA restroom for the wheelchair people and the entrance is ADA compliance on the street level and since it's only one floor there's no

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need for elevators. Um um the yeah so the the toilet will be shared by the by anybody inside the unit. Um I believe this is enough for a small uh commercial place like this. Um and the city will have a ADA city in the

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front uh for all the people who needs the ADA. Um yeah, it's pretty much it. >> There's a So my understanding is that you know the traditional Mike's, you know, kind of uh breakfast kitchen is

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being replaced by these large boiling kettles for uh the for the bagel making. >> Yeah. Uh, so it's a it's a bagel uh place. Basically, just boiling the the dough and bake it, right? So, it's no frying, no not much cooking with oil,

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anything like that. It's pretty clean. Um, and it's open kitchen for the most part. So, you could see the operations inside this uh the restaurant place. Um, yeah. And your understanding is roughly

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6:30 a.m. to 300 p.m. >> 3:30 operation hour is early morning to early afternoon. >> Um I think >> couple um >> and what about sprinklers?

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>> Uh this is old building so I don't think we >> totally sprinkler. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So the the initial fade the the building with sprinklers but I don't believe it was there before. So >> I think >> does have current sprinklers. Thank you. >> Yeah. So it's improvement we're making.

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>> My understanding from talking to the fire marshall that it would be a 13 system on the ground floor and a 13R on the upper floors. >> Yeah. So >> so I I just want to say we don't have the upper floors on our application. So let's just stick to the bottom floor right now. Please. >> We didn't get that memo from the fire official by the way. So >> yeah. So,

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>> so but we're going to disregard that because it's not part of this formal application and it's not fair to have those conversations right now. >> So, yeah. So, if we are doing the new spring system will be 100% compliant with the or you know >> 13 system. >> Yeah, exactly. Whatever is required it

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will be Yeah. will be there. So, >> 13, right? >> Be 13. Yeah, that's a standard requirement. Yeah. For >> and the travel distance is less than 100 ft. So, the the front entrance works for you. >> Exactly. >> And the occupancy is under 50. So, you're good for the one entrance, >> right?

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>> For egress for the public. >> Yeah. Yeah. 100% 100%. Yeah. It's a small small place. >> Yeah. >> Um >> and there is an exit. There's a kitchen exit and then there's the >> Yeah, there are two mean two main eagrass one in the back and then

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obviously entrance. >> Um the kitchen area is in the back. Um but it's uh but for the customers front it will be the the egress because it's less safety right so >> um >> and how about number of seats

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>> uh number of seats will basically be um uh less than the maximum allowed for a restaurant uh in this case about around less than 10 about 10 10 seings including the ADA >> if you look on the plans they don't show

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a lot of tables There's a lot of the counter space, but to Mike's point, it's not like 50 tables in there. Look at the layout. >> Yeah. >> Which goes back to the occupancy being under 50, >> right? Yeah. In this case, probably under 20, I think. Yeah. So, it's small

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small shop. >> Um, yeah, it's just a regular. It's a deli. It's basically bodega. You know, you guys pretty much know what it is. Yeah. >> It's good for, you know, the neighborhood. I think it's it's convenient for the morning commuters.

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Um >> and the only new addition is the ADA toilets. Were any other walls moved or >> um I Yeah. So it doesn't really matter uh because it's burned down. So we're not really putting

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anything. We're not really revising them for a plan. We're just building a new place. So >> okay, >> we don't have to. >> But this these new these are new walls where the ADA toilet is. Yeah, of course. The new Okay. >> So, that will be a wall for the toilet room, of course. Otherwise, you'll be open. >> And then the basement's just storage.

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>> Yeah. It's unimproved. It's vacant. >> Yeah. It's it's Yeah, it's original. >> So, everything's open air. >> Uh pretty much except the toilet. Yeah. So, it's open open floor plan. >> Interesting. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean it's it's a

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very straightforward and uh not >> there's a coffee area and juice bar. >> Yeah, we'll definitely be there for the morning commuter because this you know it's open early 6:30. Uh yeah, I think I think it'll be good for the

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neighborhood. >> Thank you. >> Can you go over the hours again, Mike? The hours of operation >> 6:30 to 3:30 >> what is anticipated? >> I don't know if you want to qualify those hours. I was just going to say >> yeah I mean there's there's no ordinance in the town over as restricted for

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>> one of the things that we're going to try moving towards is where we're going to say that the board does not want and then you have that leeway within the available right so then you're not locked in if you decided hey I want to >> yeah I want to do a dinner >> I want to start opening it I want to stay open till 5 like that's obviously

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to your point allowed so what we're trying to do is versus getting you putting these applicants you guys into like hey you're bound and then you have to come back before us for to get permission. Um, I think the board prefers moving forward what we're trying to do is saying, "Hey, you know, not

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before 6:00 a.m. and let's say not after I'm just going to throw a number seven, nine, whatever it is." And anything in there, you guys can play with your own hours. You know, your business, you know what you might need to adjust to. It allows for maybe on one day you want to stay open uh later, but it doesn't we

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don't we're trying to make it so that you guys aren't having to, you know, poor retailers aren't having to come back for saying, "Hey, our business model's changed slightly. We're seeing this you know, gives you that flexibility. >> The only reason I bring it up is for the noise. There's a different standard

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after 1000 p.m. So, if the restaurant's closed, I don't have to worry about the RTU exhaust fan noise. They can use the day level, which the the sound data I looked at, I think complies with the day, but not the night. So, I'm just trying to clarify that we're not looking

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at night town sound data that the restaurant's going to be closed before uh 10 p.m. That's the only reason I brought it. >> So, let's use that as our restriction. Yes. Not before 6 and then not after 10. >> Or if it's after 10, it has to comply. >> But that that would be that's that

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trigger. If they hit that, then they have that would be something that we would need you to come back to make sure you complied with those >> salad. Well, I I will say they're making bagels. Sometimes they start at 3:00 in the morning making bagels. So, you know, They're operationally they may be working

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>> but the what we've done here for anything on us is the hours to the public not operational hours. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> I want to give them the ability I want to make sure they have the ability to operate at 3 in the morning. >> Yeah. No, these are public

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>> hours coming in. Yep. So, and to the mayor's point, this we're clarifying you have to prep something at 3:00 a.m. This that has nothing to do with this is open hours, open to the public hours. So, we would say not before 6:00 and not after 10 time. >> And you have to comply with the sound whenever the you indicate when it's

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going to be. If you're operating at 3:00 in the morning for making bagels, obviously you have to comply with the nighttime sound level, but obviously if it's not until the morning, it's the daytime levels. >> Right. >> Yep. >> A quick question. Um, on the on the

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plans, you have a new panoramic door storefront. Is that the accordion doors, the accordion glass doors? So, you're opening You're bringing the inside out. >> Yes. Um, we Yeah, we have a

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um Wait, you talking about the the entrance? >> It's up top. >> Um, can you show me the >> Yeah, it's up top. It says new P. It's right next to the uh exit B door. >> Oh, okay. I think it means um it's Yes.

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Those make open to the outside. Folding door. >> Yeah. Foldable accordion doors. >> Yeah. Folding door. >> So So it it will be an open air. >> Yes. When you fully open it will be air. You love it, right? Okay. Good. [laughter] >> Yeah. Love it.

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>> Good. Thank you. Um so I do want to go through really quick. We'll go through what was on the fire marshals, the fire um officials. Uh NFPA13 sprinkler system on the commercial space, which you've already said. Yes. Um does the building have a

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fully monitored fire alarm and carbon monoxide system? >> Yes. >> Okay. Kitchen hood susp uh and suspression. >> Yeah, that >> system shall be hooked up to and monitored to the fire alarm system.

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Walk-in cooler will be tied into the building sprinkler system. Fire alarm annunciator shall be installed the in the front of the restaurant. Exit exact location to be determined later. Okay. Knoxbox. They're looking for it to

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be and lowered or uh replaced and installed on the right side of the apartment uh entry steps at the height of 5t above the sidewalk. And they would like it to be done directly through Knoxbox. That is a standard. Um and that you can comply with that. Okay. Um and

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then the last was um for the fire marshall for part of your final approval process. You will have to sub um submit this is normal is your evacuation plans, maps and your seating plan just so that that they can see that um but that would be final that would be part of your final process.

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>> Okay. Um just for the record the other comments on here we're I did not bring up because they are relating to the residential and that is not this application. And again, we're just asking for uh the ability to get to TCO as soon as we get

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our inspections done. Um rather than, you know, perhaps wait to get the resolution approved. I mean, I don't know what the timing is going to be. Um I'm sure it'll work out, but we we would ask that we can just get to TCO as quickly as possible. >> What do we have open that we need to

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still resolve from tonight? the waiver and then and then the language on the enclosure if it if an agreement can't be happened like because we don't we don't want you to come back. We want to see if we can um so I'm looking for any recommendations from the board on either.

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>> Don't all speak at once. >> I'm going to let Larry go first. [laughter] >> Thank you. I think that they should have to contribute to the street tree fund. If six already took care of the the first tree that leaves two more trees

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some somewhere along the line break the checks environmental commission will put them in someplace else. There's no room on the property and no room on North Main. I mean North Bur North Bridge. [snorts] >> We know where you're talking about but you can keep naming names.

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all Elizabeth. [laughter] Um, the two trees, it's done. We'll take care of it. The one tree on the front's already going in. >> Any other thoughts from the board? >> So, so a question for for Mike. Um, had

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there not been a fire and a new applicant came in for a bagel store, Mike's closed. Would would we be having the same discussion regarding a tree? I don't think there would be a trigger, mayor, for a trigger being a catalyst.

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Uh it would be a site plan. There has to be some something to require that uh without a use application. >> So in this situation, what is the trigger? >> Uh the trigger essentially was the fire. >> Yeah. They have to redo the space completely and then also ask for the

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hood and all that has to be redone. >> Yeah. Yeah. See, I I I I have a bit of a challenge with with mandating um the trees on this issue. They're It's almost as if we're punishing the applicant because there was a fire and

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and we're holding them to a standard that we wouldn't hold anybody else because they had a fire. >> So, let me let me finish. Um, given that scenario, what I I don't understand why why we are doing that as

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a board or or bringing it to my table to the council. Um, it doesn't make sense to me. What we're trying to do is to encourage them to re reinvest back in their property. And Mr. Sai is doing that. He's bringing the property back. He's already uh uh built out the facade.

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He's built out, he's in the process of building out the interior, spending, you know, obviously he's gotten insurance money, but you know, it doesn't cover all of the losses over the past year and a half. It is a year and a half, right? Yeah. Um

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of of lost income, lost revenue. And now we're saying, "Okay, we want you to fix it." Because I'll tell you, I've been harping on him and the other property owner to fix it for the last year and a half. And now they're fixing it. and and we're saying, "Well, you know what? Because you had a fire, we want you to

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plant more trees." I think there's an ability here to come to a compromise. And I think and I think what that compromise might be >> one tree, >> right? Because also, you got to think about it. We're we're going on and on about the dumpster. We're trying to make an improvement. Yes.

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>> There were never any trees on >> Northern Bridge, >> right? >> Let's make an improvement. If we can't do it there, we'll do it. place else but one tree is not asking too much. We're asking for three. They already got one reduced because the other applicants fill in that

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>> and the reality is they're the victim of the fire. The fire did not originate in their property. It originated. >> I respect that completely. >> So, you know, we're >> saying to improve, we're trying to make a general improvement. So you and I can come to that agreement that you know I

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think a a reasonable accommodation is because we are trying to beautify the rest of downtown and you're a partner in that one tree the value of which at this point is 750 >> 650 >> is that something reasonable that >> okay so

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>> so now we have to just worry about the dumpster >> okay >> all right so we've agreed that We want to have those conversations to see what can happen. What we need to do is come up with if they are not able to, what are our expectations so that they have a

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plan that they can follow that we agree upon and is approved and they don't have to come back. So open to thoughts on that one. >> I think it essentially comes down to what they have put forth is great and if they can't do a combined then what

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they've put forth is sufficient. Yeah, I think what car cara had said earlier that you know best efforts to uh to come to an accommodation for a shared dumpster. Um and we'll see where that goes. I mean it

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it is a I get it. It's a difficult situation. It's it's it's probably the tightest area in town for for parking and for dumpsters and uh it's a challenge. So I think given your ability to say yes, you will give a best

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effort to try to come to an accommodation between the next door property owner. I think that's something reasonable that can be built. >> And I think one thing I'd like to add is um if if you can't come with a combined if you can the applicant two and six can work together on some kind of uniformity

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in their enclosures even if they're two separate um that gives some kind of uniformity back there, right? you know, because again, that's the improvement. That's the whole thought process of why we wanted one. I get it. Um, and then,

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um, which would also allow for the fact that not one is going to get picked up. They're both going to be brought out if they need to. That is fair. You know, we try not to I get, you know, two is in a in a unique position because you're closer to the road, so you get and you have that parking. They're not. They're

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on the interior part of that property. Um, so they can't get it picked up. So, I think those are the kind of compromises I'm at least I'm looking for as um from the planning board's perspective of work together as best you can. Um and in the end, if it has to

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still be separate and two separate pickups and all that, then at that point, at least try to come up with some conformity in their enclosures that allows them you both to do some kind of very nice enclosure that looks I'm not going to say it has to be exact, right? But some kind of conformity back there

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that um gives us that uniform look. Is is it the same dumpster company? Has it been the same? Is is there any coordination between dumpster companies? >> Not. >> Okay. So, that's something I think we can we can discuss. Um, we also have to settle on times because and this isn't a

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there there's a history of dumpster companies picking up at 3:30 in the morning and and obviously we can't have that. >> So, what what have the times been that we >> That's what I was about to ask. Has anybody Mike do you know what the general has been that we've been doing? because I we haven't had one in a bit.

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>> We we generally in the downtown >> we generally restrict before 7 a.m. or after 900 p.m. Okay. That's generally what the board's been doing >> throughout the burrow >> because I'd like to keep it that conform in and uniform as well. All right. So, not before 7, not after 9:00 p.m. Can

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you comply? Okay. >> Same thing with the food deliveries or >> Yeah. All so that that that time frame usually complies with all food deliveries, everything, all trucking, every everything is can't be before 7 and not after 9:00 p.m. >> Okay.

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>> And the grease is best efforts for the used cooking oil or >> Well, this doesn't have friers for this operation. >> It's because it's bagels. They're they're boiled. >> What's the grease that Mike? There is a deep fryer shown in the on the kitchen drawings.

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>> Okay. All right. Yes. And I that's we would ask best effort on that. >> Ideally great to have it inside >> because of the housekeeping. You guys hear the concern >> with the tree. >> Your mic your microphone.

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>> Sorry about that. I'm looking at the street view right now and there's venting and can we at least put the tree in a pot? >> You are not going to have to do the tree. We've asked the w part of the waiver is the cost the fee for one tree only. >> Oh, pay the fee. >> Yes. >> Oh, okay. Take that back. I thought it

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was plant the tree. >> And I'm I'm just looking at I'm like there was no difference. >> No, we all agree. It's >> There you just agreed. Now you got to plant it now. [laughter] >> I'm like, where am I going to put this tree? >> Hold on. >> For one tree. >> Sorry. Just so because I got that wrong, too. >> Yeah.

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>> I thought they had to plant one and pay for one. >> No. So where we're talking about the planning is six west is taking care of >> taking care of one >> a replacement of the one that got damaged during the fire. >> Y >> the what we the compromise instead of three. >> Yep. >> We're asking them to and we're going to grant the waiver of the planting but the

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fee for only one of the three. >> Got it. Okay. Was three will be two. One six is taken care of. >> It was actually three on top of the one that was already there. So that three strictly is for this applicant. >> Got it. Okay. >> Yep. And Greg, while I have you here, there's

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some housekeeping things about settling in the pavers and televising that lateral. Just so you know, Six West has indicated that the lateral for six West went through the applicant's property. They're going to take it out, but they have a condition to see the sump pumps

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and debris what's going on with the uh the basement essentially. Just to throw it out to you, Craig, because sometimes you have some >> So, what does that mean? >> That means televising the the existing lateral, which I think the applicants

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proposing to reuse, right? Just televising to make sure it's not full with or collapsed and just dealing. >> So, has nothing to do with six. >> I only bring six up because six indicated that the lateral for six went through this property. It didn't go to

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the street. The lateral from six west went through T to west. So, they're redoing the lateral to uh out to Main Street so it's not going through the applicant's parcel, but the the same thought process was the same. If you're

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reusing the lateral just to televise it, Craig, just to make sure it was how many gallons of water was in that basement from the fire, just to make sure >> I'm sure it's cleaned out now, >> right? >> The usual.

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Yes, the usual. >> Any other comments or thoughts from the board? >> Mike, we have any open issues? Did we address everything? I think we got everything on your plan. >> Oh, no. The wall sign. The wall sign. Did we actually >> I think they said that's conforming.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we're not asking for any relief for that. The canopy that was there is actually getting pulled back quite a bit. Um, you can see on the new renderings there, but it's >> and it'll you're saying it'll conform with all the >> It looks nice. Yep. >> Yeah, it is actually very nice.

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>> Do we have to add anything in about the request for the TCO? Is I think last and we just >> we we don't control that. >> No, we don't come out of make a recommendation or say that we're okay with it or something. We >> the board has no objection to the

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issuance of a TCO provided that all insp Yeah. What's been done in the past on bigger projects is the buildings or in this case maybe the upper floor has a different construction permit. So the apartments get done they're not all one permit Mike. There's ways of handling

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this that we've done with bigger buildings so that >> rolling TCOs. >> Right. >> Correct. >> I I understand the point. So I can work with the CO >> and we'll have and Carol put that language in there that we are we are okay with that moving forward. I think the intent is to have the some of the

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apartments occupied prior to the restaurant. Is that the is that what the thought process was? >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. You got nobody else because I got to open it to public. I just want to make sure that we have no other comments or anything. All right. So, I'm going to open it up to the public for any

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comments or questions on this application. Hearing no, we'll close public. >> Yeah, the language as usual. Um, I'll make the motion to approve based on the numerous items that Cara will run

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through real quick for us. >> Okay. So, along with our standard >> carrier or mic, sorry. >> Along with our standard conditions, um, the street tree waiver has been granted subject to the contribution for one tree in the amount of $650.

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Um, the applicant will work with the adjacent property owner at 6 West Main to attempt to establish a shared dumpster situation. Um, and if they cannot to show uniformity in the dumpster enclosures. Um, I'll put some language together just proof of the

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attempts submit to Mike just so we can kind of see what's going on and what the end result is going to be. Um, the color of the screening of any um, utility shall match the facade. uh compliance with the call report and the fire report which by the way let's

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mark the fire report as a or PB2 and I'll clarify it for you uh madam chair to the extent that it's not going to apply uh PB2 is the fire prevention bureau report dated July 6, 2026. Um so

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back to the condition compliance with the call report and the fire report but for any comments in the fire report relative to the residential occupancy. Um basement shall be utilized for storage. Um hours are the

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they cannot be open to the public between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. >> Yes. >> Okay. We'll do it that way. Does that make sense? >> Yep. I had to think about that because you reversed it. No. >> I feel like more streamlined than to say it the other way. I'm going to do the same thing later on. Um, compliance with

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applicable state daytime and nighttime sound requirements. Uh, board has no objection to the issuance of TCO provided the conditions are satisfied. Uh, no deliveries, trash pickups, uh, between 900 p.m. and 7 a.m. >> Correct.

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>> So, same thing. Uh, standard language with regard to televising the sanitary lateral and all signage will be conforming. Otherwise, they're going to come back to the board. >> One one more item. Sorry. Um, with item 10 in the fire marshall's report. >> Yep. >> We pull that out as well.

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>> Yes. Um, that states that the fire marshall reserves the right to make changes during inspection or site visits. >> That comes out of >> Yes, we Sorry, I did miss that one, but yes, we're taking that up. >> That's okay. What I'll do is I'll say that complies with the comments in the

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fire report. I'll list which Perfect. >> Just to come back to the screening. It's a red building. You sure you want red screening on the roof? >> Yeah, you were saying match the building. I don't know if you want to do that. >> I think black mean

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>> dark, right? >> Game day decision. That's >> Yeah, you know what? Can we just put it >> You guys figure >> Mike, you're taking this one. >> Yeah, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? >> I got it. >> No, it's a good point. So, we're just going to let him You guys can do that >> at the discretion. At the discretion.

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>> Thank you. >> So, moved with all of that. >> I'll second that. Chairperson Warner, >> yes. >> Mayor Gallagher, >> yes. >> Jason Kra, >> yes. >> Roger Room, >> yes. >> Larry Cleveland, >> yes. >> Andrea Dair, >> yes. >> John Manilio,

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>> yes. >> Barry Van Horn, >> yes. >> Tim Hayes, >> yes. >> Thank you for your time. Appreciate. >> You're welcome. I just wanted to say thank you so much for reinvesting. We know this has been a project for you. We know this has been a it's been an uphill. You know, after a disaster, it's really hard as it is. Um, thank you for

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hanging in with us and continuing to help us thrive downstairs. So, good luck and thank you, >> M. I'm just going to dovetail onto the chair. Mr. Sai, thank you. Um, you've, uh, patiently, uh, gone about your business. You've, uh, refitted your building. It looks good. Um, you took

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care of the tenants, uh, the number of tenants that were there, uh, that were displaced. Uh, you handled them, uh, carefully, and I think that that's a testament to you. Uh, so thank you for rein reinvesting back in. And are you the owner of the bagel store?

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>> You are. >> Thank you very much for for investing in Somerville and I'm looking forward to my Sunday morning bagels. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. Next item is back to ECBD.

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So Mike, at last meeting we went we ran through, right? um what the permitted uses and structures were for schedule A. I know that there was and I thank you for this. We had a lot of the questions were what those definitions were because we didn't want to say yes or no without

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understanding the definitions. Um what I am going to propose for this has everybody had a chance to really indepth look at this. Please be honest because Okay, what I'm going to request is now that we have these with a decent amount of time for the next meeting, please

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bring your comments, your thoughts. Mike, this you did update the actual schedule with what we Right. It's just the definitions on top of that now, right? >> The schedule the changes made or suggested to last meeting in red

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>> Roger brought up clarifying and thank you Roger on the sporting goods store. I called out the cannabis and the tattoos separately. >> Okay. >> Any topics that need drilling down. They're in red. And the overlay zones

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were taken out and the flood hazard zone was put in and there's proposed no uses for the board to that's why they're blank. Okay. The board to go through that >> to uh to see what's appropriate for the flood hazard zone. >> So I'd like the board to also do that.

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then look at the flood hazard, look at uses. Um if it literally is two because it's we know what our intent is, it's two. But I think but I um but and comparing it to those definitions, I think this it gives us two weeks to do that. It's enough time to really dive

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back in and u but I would like to have some final movement on this for the next meeting. Okay. And for clarity, if anybody, any of the board members would like to see something else called out, not lumped in, like for example, the tattoos called

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out. Is there something that should be called out? Uh, I'm all ears. Uh, you'll see what was called out was based on the last meeting, >> right, Chair Bonds, thank you, Larry, too, for those comments. Larry brought brought up the bear bonds comments. He

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one of those brought out to make sure we're clearly >> Yeah. listing some hot ticket or items that the board felt that should be clearly articulated >> on the third page >> on page three. It's just a typo. You have

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>> cashing. >> Yeah, check chasing. >> Jeez. All right. >> I saw that. >> Oh, you want you meant cashing. >> Yeah, I >> check chasing is interesting. Can we have a definition on that one, please? [laughter] And there's more definitions. Just send me an email. You have 16 pages of

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definitions. Uh some of them are right out of the ordinance regarding the one mult highstory midrise. The other one is what I think the chairwoman asked about the requirements on division street for the tattoo place. So you have those

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requirements listed in entirety. So what was done 10 years ago something like that. So uh if you need more information we can certainly provide more definitions if that's required. >> Okay.

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Um and then I did I'm sorry I did not send you my drawn up colorful map. I promise I will get to that. I did get tied up and then yesterday I was like oh I never scanned it and sent it to Mike.

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So, I will get you that um my very colorful marked up with Sharpies, different colors of what I was looking at as proposed because I I would like to also have everybody see that what was in my head. You only want to see what's in my head on this. I can

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tell you everything else you want no absolute transparency for. So, okay. Uh did we I think that was the only open right now for ECBD. Correct, Mike? Um the mapping. >> Yes, that's

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>> right. You said that. So you have the mapping, you have the flood maps and the proposed baseline based on the last meeting. >> And actually what I'll do is um I can ask we'll ask Ryan. So you guys have these now. >> I can ask Ryan I will scan this. I'm going to make a note that I will scan it

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get it over to Mike tomorrow and then if we can get it out to you guys so that you have the next couple weeks to look at it instead of waiting till the next meeting on that. I'm gonna write this down, Mike, so I don't forget it because it will be forgotten the minute I walk out that door. Okay. Um,

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last is community facilities. This should be it, right? >> Um, >> the red lines are there. We we I thought I captured all the comments. There was a

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comment to combine one and four and to combine six, seven, and eight into the policies and objectives and to take out the fire alarms and the cost and some of that stuff that's superilous and anything else that I changed. It's in

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red, so it's it's obvious to anyone if you disagree with it, we can certainly change it. It looked good. It looked like he captured everything that we had gone over. >> Yeah, I don't I didn't see anything you missed. >> Just so the board knows, there's so much

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said in these meetings that I had to go to YouTube because I have to get it done within the week with Ryan and Mike doesn't have the transcript done in time. That's no no I'm up. No, no dig, Mike. I just I'm just saying that I thank God for YouTube because I go back

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and rewind it to make sure I'm capt capturing all the comments because we we went through a lot. >> Yes, that's we did go through a lot last time. So, thank you, Mike, because you did do when I reviewed it, you did a good job of capturing. >> I appreciate that. But I I really the comments were great. Roger. I supporting

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good comment. I'm glad we right. And Larry just calling out everything in my opinion. Now's the time to catch all this if there any uses and that's that's what the board's doing. >> Um, so on the community facilities, unless anybody has any other comments,

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I'd like to say that this is good. We accept the comments and and this is going to move forward and it'll be part of the update. >> Sounds good. >> Um, I think on the elements of the

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master plan, wasn't that was that our last one? What do we have left? I don't think we have >> uh we have to go through the DCAs and I have to say where it's covered. >> Oh, the DSA. >> I'm the the DSA did a shotgun approach and the comment

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was isn't this covered? Isn't this covered? So, I'm going to go through the DSA. All right. All right. >> In red and say this is covered here, this is not covered. So, to go through all their comments. >> All right. So, do you is it possible to have that for next meeting? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> And there's a regional overview in here

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too. Is that something Yeah. >> Yeah. I what I'll do since we have the DSA run for next time, I will go through and look to see and then we'll talk about what's missing. And to Cara's point, like I know regional there are some elements still. I just those separate elements I think

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>> um is what we were looking at, but there are portions in that base portion of the master plan that we do still have to go over. Okay. Okay. Uh, nothing on the open business meeting to be discussed. I'll open up the meeting to

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the public for any um matter that was not listed on this agenda. Hearing none, we will close public session and a motion to adjurnn. >> So moved. Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> All opposed?

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